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<v Speaker 1>Alex our White lawyers to Distracted Driver dot Com and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they of course are our postgame show sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>and we will have the postgame show this evening. But

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<v Speaker 1>again big thanks to Alex for having us and hopping on.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Eric Benson, it was really cool to hear them,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys heard. You guys heard a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it when it comes to just sort of the background

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<v Speaker 1>and how they wanted to help out. And I realized

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they were explaining it to me, how I just

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<v Speaker 1>took it for granted that you know what, when I

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<v Speaker 1>turned sixteen and I had a driver's license for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I had a car, my father handed down

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<v Speaker 1>one of his older cars to me, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about when I started working or started

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<v Speaker 1>my adult life, like what am I going to do

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<v Speaker 1>for a vehicle. And there's so many people out there

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't fortunate to have that, including those that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the foster care system that are clearly at a

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<v Speaker 1>disadvantage than most people. So a really good cause. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not to be corny, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we've never with trust me, I'm not making this political,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are clearly very divided right now as a country,

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<v Speaker 1>more so than I can ever remember in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like the sentimental good stories of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reminding us that there are a lot of good. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of good out there when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to people that are doing kind acts for others. That

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<v Speaker 1>hits a little different now than it ever did, just

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<v Speaker 1>because again, if you turn on the television, if you

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<v Speaker 1>pop open the Texic or the toxic wasteland of social

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<v Speaker 1>media that you know, you're reminded more often than you're

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<v Speaker 1>more often reminded how crazy we are right now at times,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody, but obviously like it's you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it. So, I'm just ready for the selection

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<v Speaker 1>to be over. But what I love hearing is that

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they do, meaning Eric and Alex explain to other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, partners essentially right, those who can help get

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<v Speaker 1>them a vehicle up and running that maybe needed some

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<v Speaker 1>work because it's a little bit older. They're willing to help,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like they don't even hesitate to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great cause, we'd love to help out like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's again, to go back to what I said a

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<v Speaker 1>moment ago, those kind of stories are are always worth sharing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always nice to be reminded that there are

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<v Speaker 1>good people out there doing good stuff to help others

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<v Speaker 1>in need. But it just seems as if it it

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<v Speaker 1>it it's needed more now than maybe it's ever been so.

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<v Speaker 1>And also they've got Matt Hoffman is as Eric mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to pick him. I thinkt gonna pick

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<v Speaker 1>hm up from the airport. So yeah, they've got their

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<v Speaker 1>big event tomorrow, the the Rad Revival. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>are somebody like myself who loves the eighties and nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>then I mean this is this is your event, so

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, it'll be uh tomorrow at Paristown Hall. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I may have figured out a little date

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<v Speaker 1>night for me and the wife, which you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get enough date nights at least not as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we used to. So all right, let's uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's dive back in here to uh to to the

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<v Speaker 1>football side of things, and we'll have the pregame show

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here at six point thirty to get into

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Boston College matchup specifically. But when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the Colin Lacey news, I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, his decision is clearly an unpopular one

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<v Speaker 1>in the eyes of most people. To be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're a Louisville fan, this is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>not news that you were happy to hear about. I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>although if I was gonna, if I was forced to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe provide a silver lining as far as a potential

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<v Speaker 1>positive here, I would say that if he comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know that's a win because this year, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you told, if you told, let's let's put it

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<v Speaker 1>this way again. I'm not trying to act like anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's upset and just turned off by this new world

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<v Speaker 1>of college athletics where players can do what Colin is doing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I totally understand it. But if you said to

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<v Speaker 1>a Louisville fan after the loss to Miami, when you

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<v Speaker 1>essentially realize you're two and two in league play at

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<v Speaker 1>this point and you can still have a good year,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt, like I think they could go beat Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>and if they do, hell yeah. And I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that says they've got to go to the AEC

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<v Speaker 1>Championship annually for it to be viewed as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a really good season. So if I would have said

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<v Speaker 1>after the Miami loss. Look, would you put Colin Lacy

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<v Speaker 1>on the shelf if it meant you had him healthy

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<v Speaker 1>all next year and he gets that year of eligibility.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you would answer it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would say yes. And it's not because I'm writing off

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<v Speaker 1>this year as if it just doesn't matter anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>they've lost three games. But he's a really good player,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you you know, not to say you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be just fine without him, because clearly he's a valuable guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think this would have been a lot different.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you know. We're learning ourselves how

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<v Speaker 1>we react to this because it's all brand news, So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I would react or how others

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<v Speaker 1>would have reacted. But if it was a hey, he's

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<v Speaker 1>still dealing with some nagging pain discomfort from the collarbone

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<v Speaker 1>injury and the surgery to where in order of him

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<v Speaker 1>potentially getting hurt again, he's just gonna get healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>utilize the loophole if you will, that he could come

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<v Speaker 1>back for an extra year if he doesn't burn the

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<v Speaker 1>full year of eligibility. I would have said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that makes sense. Now he still might come back

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<v Speaker 1>to Louisville. But what he's doing is knowing he's got

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<v Speaker 1>options and knowing he's got the ability to go put

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<v Speaker 1>some more money in his pocket. And it's again, I

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<v Speaker 1>get both sides of it meeting. I get why fans

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<v Speaker 1>are bothered by it and turned off and thinking that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the college sports landscape that they grew to

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<v Speaker 1>love is now not what it once was. Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>get all that, but I also get it from his perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is, you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are employees now and this has turned into a

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<v Speaker 1>lucrative job that you can only do for a few

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<v Speaker 1>years for a lot of these athletes. So seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>prioritize their own needs and you know, relentlessly pursue the

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<v Speaker 1>best possible opportunities for themselves and their immediate family, that

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be a surprise. It's new. We're not used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you really think about it from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you would do the same thing. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because what Colin Lacey's doing is really I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think with the overwhelming majority of the American workforce would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got a chance to extend his career

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<v Speaker 1>as a college football player and make more money that

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially I don't want to say it could be

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<v Speaker 1>life changing money, but I think Colin Lacy rather it's

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<v Speaker 1>it here, it's at Louisville, his first job, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is after football, and I don't know, maybe maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>does play in the NFL for a few years. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he plays in the NFL for a long time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would say unless he uses his NFL money and

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<v Speaker 1>invest it in like a business that's booming, whatever career

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<v Speaker 1>he would get in after football, Like let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>he's a practice squad guy for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>and then he realizes he's going to have to find

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<v Speaker 1>a career post football. I'd be willing to bet that

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<v Speaker 1>next year, if it's at Louisville or if it's elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll make more money in twenty twenty five playing college

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<v Speaker 1>football than he probably will at whatever that job is

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<v Speaker 1>that he does after football. So like it it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say it's full for him to

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<v Speaker 1>not take advantage of it, although I kind of believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>but again, to say that it's foolish to not quit

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<v Speaker 1>on your team, like they just sound so off and

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<v Speaker 1>it is so again, it's you know, what I think

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA should do here is make some changes to

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<v Speaker 1>this rule about red shirting. That rule exists for different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I mean by that is the reason they

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<v Speaker 1>started letting you play a fifth year if you only

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<v Speaker 1>played in it at maximum at the MAXI amount of

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<v Speaker 1>four games, like it doesn't count as a year of eligibility.

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<v Speaker 1>They did that because guys were on the depth chart

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<v Speaker 1>at second a third string for two years at times

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<v Speaker 1>playing one snap in one game and two three snaps

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<v Speaker 1>in the second season in different games, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be half their college career like that. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make any sense. You know, this used to be

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<v Speaker 1>there used to be a saying for that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>may rest in peace. He's passed away recently and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very sad. But Steve Kragthorpe, like there used to be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing where oival fans would say you got crackthorped.

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<v Speaker 1>He would burn years of eligibility without even thinking like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're terrible, We're going to have three or four wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you playing, you know as true freshmen on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams and wasting a year of eligibility. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think the insteadly made that rule change because of Cragthorpe,

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<v Speaker 1>But it was intended to not burn an entire year

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<v Speaker 1>for young guys who got their first taste of action

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<v Speaker 1>on special teams and then never played again. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily meant for guys that are doing what Colin Lacy's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, right now, as the rule stands, he's taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of it. And again I wish I had answers

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<v Speaker 1>to the nil component, And I don't, meaning like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he got paid up front, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>still owed, much like I don't know the stipulations of

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<v Speaker 1>his contract. But as I've said the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days since this became a big story, there's nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>a contract that states that he has to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>in regards to playing football. Because they're technical was still

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to pay for play. It's probably a contract

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<v Speaker 1>about marketing appearances. And maybe he sticks around and does

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<v Speaker 1>his marketing appearances till December, viniets the portal and dips

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<v Speaker 1>and goes out where Like that's also a real possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that could play out. All right, we got a break

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here in just a moment, But I did

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<v Speaker 1>not expect this to get as much interaction on social

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<v Speaker 1>media as it did. But I posted this earlier today,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes I did take this idea from a UK

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<v Speaker 1>account that I don't It's called Rare Rookies and I

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<v Speaker 1>only know of this not because I follow Rare Rookies.

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<v Speaker 1>But KSR was talking about it the other day and

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Matt's cliff that he posted on Twitter where

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<v Speaker 1>somebody put together a just a graphic that showed the

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<v Speaker 1>headshots of all I guess the former Kentucky players that

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<v Speaker 1>have transferred that are still playing college basketball today. And

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<v Speaker 1>it hit me that for Louisville Man, with the turnover

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<v Speaker 1>they've had just in the last few years, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many guys that you've probably forgotten about, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember. So I put up all the there's sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>guys that I posted that played at u of L

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<v Speaker 1>in the last three years that are still playing college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>And again it doesn't have I mean, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>pictures don't have the name of the team. Some do,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't have a name, it just has their face.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's some guys that I completely forgot about. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there used to be, like you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>used to be a back and forth between Louisville fans,

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to do this with my buddies, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>name the most random and easily forgotten former Louisville basketball

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<v Speaker 1>or football player, like a guy that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>would never think of until somebody brought it up, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, that guy was pretty good. That won't be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing anymore because they'll be endless amounts of guys

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<v Speaker 1>a year and transferred like everybody else does now. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was a wild run where Louisville, of course, was

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation from a basketball standpoint that we hope

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<v Speaker 1>they'll never be in again. We never thought they would be,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's why you've had, Like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>roster turnover now in college sports because of the new rules,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the obvious situation where they've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been they were terrible for a while. But Dre Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>matt Cross, remember that name. He was at Louisville, transferred

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<v Speaker 1>to actually started his career at Miami, transferred to Louisville.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he went to UMass to play for Frank Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's a fifth or sixth year guy at SMU.

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<v Speaker 1>Fabio Vasilli played here for one year for Kenny Payne.

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<v Speaker 1>And the conversations about some of these guys, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe we did that? Can you believe we

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<v Speaker 1>I realized pretty quickly, but like we talked ourselves into

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<v Speaker 1>for Kenny Payne, and clearly that didn't work out. Devin

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<v Speaker 1>Ree showed up here, played for a year in Kenny's

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<v Speaker 1>first season. Shooter from Mississippi. He's now at Louisiana Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Camari Lands remember that guy, and this is crazy Kamary Lands.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now at Middle Tennessee State. So he played at

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<v Speaker 1>four different high schools in high school. He's now played

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<v Speaker 1>three different played for three different schools. In college basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's played for a new team for seven straight years.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's insane. He was at Arizona State last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now he's at Middle Tennessee State. Roosevelt Wheeler he's

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<v Speaker 1>up at Richmond or a No DCU, and then now

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Johnson's at Wake Forest, Caleb Glenn is at FAU

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen not Jalen, But what is his name? DePaul helped

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<v Speaker 1>me out here. He's a local kid. Why can I

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<v Speaker 1>not think of his name? JJ Trent, I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>why I completely blanked out like that. And then Dannalo

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<v Speaker 1>Danalo Javnovich, like you may don't even know who that is.

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<v Speaker 1>He played here last year and he's now at Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Curtis Williams, he's now at Georgetown. Good shooter

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<v Speaker 1>from last year's team, Trey White is now at Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>his third school in three years. Dennis Evans remember the

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<v Speaker 1>seven foot ten guy I mean, he wasn't that tall,

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<v Speaker 1>but he looked like it. He's now at Grand Canyon.

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<v Speaker 1>Sky Clark is at UCLA. And then who else was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike James is at n C State. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then also check this out, Brandon Helly Haffield. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to even put him in this list. He's also at

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<v Speaker 1>n C State. Also, Austin helped me out with this earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Kron Davis. He is now at Louisiana Lafayette.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is a name that I would be

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<v Speaker 1>shocked if if you're a doallhard little ven you remember

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<v Speaker 1>this name. But if you're not, and you casually follow you,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably don't know who this is. Gabe was Knitzer,

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<v Speaker 1>So Gabe Wiz Knitzer was here for I think a

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, he didn't take advantage of the COVID year.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, hope those guys have a good life and

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<v Speaker 1>a good career the rest of the way. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to have a fresh start here for louisvill Hoops.

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<v Speaker 1>a week it's been here with Coffee and Company. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here today. But I'm I'm I'm picking up on the

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<v Speaker 1>regards to just optimistic because I and again I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I've been. I mean i've been I've been critical

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, I mean me being overly negative. Really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even the Kenny painnair. That was more so just

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<v Speaker 1>like me acknowledging what was happening. It wasn't even an opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just the reality of the situation. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just frustrated because I know this team

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<v Speaker 1>and I think tonight is the night where it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to move the needle nationally. If Louisville beats Boston

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<v Speaker 1>College by a few touchdowns, because you know that's that

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be a shock because I think most people view

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<v Speaker 1>in a good mental place as they head down the

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<v Speaker 1>stretch here and you know, the final four games of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Crazy, how quickly the season's gone by. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget postgame show will start as soon as it ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will talk to you tonight. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>another edition of Coffee and Company, Phil by Thornton's Again.

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