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Speaker 4: Jake flann A Laundret All here with you here in
this hour, we're gonna have doctor Stephen Aridge join us.
There's some big, big injury news for not only an
SEC star, but maybe the front runner and the Heisman
Trophy conversation John Mattier that will break down with doctor
Ethridge will break down the old miss quarterbacks here in
this segment as well. But if you'll remember last week,
there wasn't LSU player that got ejected for targeting.
Speaker 2: No, it was not a defender.
Speaker 4: It was an offensive lineman on a field goal that
was about ten yards short and there was a return
situation and Taytay him being out could be something to
pay attention to in Saturday's game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we were talking about it during break.
Speaker 5: It's an underrated talking point because if you remember, in
the Clemson game, Tyree Adams had to leave for a
couple of games. DJ Chester was your left tackle. He
has played right tackle. You know he could play both
guard spots. You know he could play center. He's your
sixth man. So now if somebody goes down, it's a
true backup situation. Like you'll throw Kerrent in there, talented,
hadn't played a ton. You'll throw Ory Williams in there,
did and play in a ton. Braydon Augustus former walk on,
played a little bit last week. That's really all he's
he's done action wise, Kelly said on Monday, like he
will be the center if something happens to Braylen Moore,
who's already still kind of banged up in the first
half of that game. Like that's an underrated point to me,
because when you have a guy like Chester that you
could just slide in there, it was a starter a
year ago. You feel a lot better about that than
having a guy that really hasn't played at all in
the SEC. Now you're on the road, Like that's huge,
we're not talking about it a ton.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Chester actually is probably your swing offensive lineman. And I
don't mean swing like swing guard, swing tackle, swing everything. Yep,
he is going to come in a guard tackle or
the center position. So look at he's not out for
the game. He's out for the first half, which, by
the way, like what targeting?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Like did they ever explain that.
Speaker 5: Let's fix it, because because I was asking you, guys,
the field goal should have been blown dead because they
said it was a pre snap penalty, so he wanted.
Speaker 2: That never happened. So the play never happens.
Speaker 5: But the targeting, which in the first place, still stands stupid.
Speaker 2: Targeting is so broken. I was watching.
Speaker 4: Clemson and Syracuse and Clemson's edge rusher did a spin move,
got free, launched into the Syracuse quarterback and kind of
grazed the side of his helmet, but his head was
down crown of the helmet. I'm like, look, I don't
want that guy thrown out of that game, but they're
going to call that for targeting. They flagged it, they
reviewed it, no targeting. I was like, wait, wait, like
so that's not targeting. And again I'm glad that the
guy got to play the rest of the game, because
I think it's dumb you get kicked out of the game.
Speaker 2: But he launched crown of the helmet.
Speaker 4: He just the quarterback was lucky enough to kind of
turn his head and so it grazed the side of
his helmet and not his face mask. But the last
two that I've seen for LSU, those are considered targeting,
get you kicked out of the game and launching at
the quarter of Okay, got it cool because it's broken
his hell so bad?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the penalty is just it's so severe, and I
get it if you want to preach safety, it's great,
But like to have to to be able to go
and suspend a kid for any amount of time, like
there has to be a malicious attempt like that, there's
no there's no argument that you can make against that
if you want to like make a deep seated fear
of these guys because you can't really find them whatever
it is. Because like in the NFL, like you don't
get suspended a lot, but you do have the fear
of the pocketbook making your wallet a little bit lighter.
And in college, I guess you don't have that. You know,
who knows it might go to that. But to be
able to suspend somebody for action for a play that
you're given effort on, for a bang bang play without malicious,
then Now, if you if you maliciously go in there
and try to hurt somebody, you can tell that and
but and that, But that needs to be reviewed by
like the NCAA office or the conference office or whatever.
It is almost at the league office, like it's the NFL.
But I guess I'm assuming that the NCAA is competent
enough to do that and do it right. But that
should be a reviewed situation. That is not determined just
because a guy with a quick trigger finger threw a
flag on something and or they did a booth review
and they're like, well, technically, he dipped his head right
at the last second, not to mention that he was
running full speed and have to jump over a guy
to try to like scramble and bite and call him
scratch to get to the ball carrier to make a tackle.
He just ducked his head like instinctively reactively.
Speaker 4: Hey, this offensive lineman who doesn't tackle people got put
in a situation where they were turning a field goal
that was short and he was trying to get the
guy on the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, off, the receiver's going over the middle.
Speaker 6: And you're a safety and like you and there's a
picture taking of you and you're horizontal to the ground
with your head like that. Like we've seen those players.
We get it, and that pretty much has been removed
from the game. You see it every now and then,
but the malicious plays have pretty much been removed from
the game. But to penalize somebody for a high effort
and just playing the football game or instinctively reacting to something,
get out of here with that trash.
Speaker 4: If I okay, let meet those around the room, all right.
If you were the commissioner of college football, I'm not
talking about the NCAA SEC, the commissioner of college football.
Speaker 2: What's the first thing that you would do as far
as the.
Speaker 4: Rule anything, no, anything, any anything you would do with
college football.
Speaker 2: That's a big question. You should have a big answer.
Speaker 6: I mean, well, because it's fresh on the brain, I
would fix the targeting right.
Speaker 2: Now, that's okay, that's okay to be the answer, because
I would fig as well.
Speaker 4: I'd like to think about it for at least four
to five days. That's not how radio works it.
Speaker 2: But I died a week words of prep, I know
I would make.
Speaker 6: I would eliminate Notre Dame's football program to make them
join make them joy conference or eliminate their program.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think the most egregious thing is the transfer portal,
right now, like the amount of times that you can wait?
Speaker 8: Can can that be part of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Anything you want your commission.
Speaker 7: Right, Okay, So I would fix the transfer portal because
I know they're already starting to put some rules in
the world. They put like one rule in place, they
put the timeline or whatever. But I that would be
my first thing, Like you cannot transfer, you cannot t J.
Speaker 8: Finley all this stuff.
Speaker 6: So you get nine, you get them like one free transfer,
and then like, hey, think about it this way.
Speaker 2: TJ. Finley's transferred more than I have children. It's a lot.
That's a lot. I mean, whoa, whoa more than transfers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's too many.
Speaker 2: Not kids.
Speaker 8: But I think that's the one thing that I would
fix that. And yeah, the targeting is pretty bad because
you're You're.
Speaker 7: Totally right, like if it's something like with or DJ Chester,
just because those examples are fresh on the mind, there
was no they did not do that with the intent
to hurt that.
Speaker 8: No, you're also with like I don't know what like.
Speaker 2: Kind of like fell like into them, like softly. It
wasn't even you have to make contact. Yeah, you have
to make contact, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Guess, and look as a as an offensive player, like
I used to lower my head all the time, and
they still do that. I don't see them ever get
called for it. So what's the safety portion you're talking
about players with all time?
Speaker 2: And I don't blame them either. Hey, we know what
we signed up for. We get it.
Speaker 8: It really feels it all again.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, right, and I'm one concussion away from being
you know, Billy Bob and not another teen movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I do it all again. You realize what
you're signing up for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're not trying to go out there, Like
to y'all's point, if you're trying to hurt somebody, that's
a different situation than trying to make a player protect.
Speaker 2: Yourself a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then to like have to sit the first half
or what got ejected for the rest of the game,
like it just it doesn't make any sense to me
because it also feels like the refs and the NCAA
officials they.
Speaker 8: Don't even know what the rule is.
Speaker 2: No, it's the will.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're like, oh, I think that was targeting.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, let me hear those conversations too with you
and Birmingham. Let me hear those the uh was it?
The the UFL does that right? Yeah, you get to
let me let me hear it. Like the fact that
we don't have transparency in that it still just blows
my mind.
Speaker 2: Well, we were talking the Oklahoma Auburn game.
Speaker 5: The SEC refs after the game came out and they're like, yeah,
we blew those two calls.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, Auburn still got a loss, and there you
can do it. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 4: So hey, thanks, Hey, humans make mistakes, guys, Yeah, and
so do I. I made a mistake when I fumbled. You
made mistake when you do an interception, Taylor. You made
a mistake if you missed tackle in high school, right,
Landri you made a mistake if you struck out.
Speaker 2: In softball, right Okay.
Speaker 4: We we had to answer to those mistakes, though, all
of us had to answer to.
Speaker 2: Somebody talk about them somewhere. Okay.
Speaker 4: The fact that they still don't make them, like those
officials that blew those calls in that Alburn Oklahoma game,
should have to get in front of a microphone just
like we are and say yes, question one in the
front row, question six in the back row, because you
cast somebody potentially a massive game.
Speaker 5: I know this is I'm gonna play this clip for
you guys. It was Oklahoma Auburn, and when I saw
this play, I'm like, how is this not targeting? Reps
didn't question it, people on the broadcast didn't nothing. This
is kind of textbook and nothing was done about I'm
gonna try to pause that. I can only find it
on a short so leaves his feet okay, like literally
launches into the hits him in the back of the helmet,
sax Jackson artomy.
Speaker 2: How is that not targeting? But what wit Weeks and
what DJ Chester did or yeah, at least I'm assuming.
Speaker 8: Yeah, does that like at least roughly the passer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't call any thing. They got up and
they played on. So like for me, the rule I'm changing.
I'm not changing targeting. I'm eliminating the targeting penalty from
college football, going just.
Speaker 6: Be like the NFL. Just it's a personal fould and
if the league muse it, you can get suspended fifteen years.
If you spin somebody's face before the game. You can
get kicked out.
Speaker 2: Of the game.
Speaker 5: You're not getting kicked out of the game. There is
no targeting penalty. Nobody to play if you get kicked
out of the game.
Speaker 2: These guys are professional football players. Find them.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, they're getting they're gonna get Oh because of
one old guy's opinion. Yeah, a kid that works this
tailed off all week gets loses eligibility for two quarters
of football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it can be like with it can be
basically the whole game.
Speaker 2: If four quarters of football, yeah, yeah, face on an opinion.
Speaker 6: It shouldn't be based on an opinion of an old
guy in a striped shirt on the field. Okay, it
should be all right, Okay, you hit them, I'll give
you a fifteen yard penalty. Maybe it was a bad call,
but we can all live with it. Okay, as a
bang bang play. We know refs make mistakes. It's fine,
we get it. That's part of being a human. That's
part of like why we love football. It's not running
back computers. That's fine, But to take eligibility away if
the league office wants to come back that week and say,
you know what, it was targeting and it was malicious,
so you got you gotta sit out the first quarter.
Speaker 4: Because I'm not having to make a decision in five minutes.
There's pressure, there's a there's a clock clock, there's a
TV clock, Like, hey, fans, we don't want to have
to sit here and wait for more actions. So you
got three minutes to make this decision. You're talking about
like with weeks being out of that game, right if
you know Florida DJ, like we didn't throw five intercessions,
Like that's your best player on defense, that's an All
American that you're missing for that because I got to
make a decision in three minutes of like you saying
like go back, maybe you got maybe, Hey, we're gonna
suspend you for the next game because that was egregious yep,
or wasn't yep?
Speaker 2: Or you know you gotta pay the league office twenty
five thousand.
Speaker 5: Well, that part's dombin itself, because like got ejected three
plays into the game, but has to miss the entire game,
DJ Chester got ejected in the fourth quarter, he only
has to miss the first half. So essentially Chester's missing
half of the game and wits missing a whole game
for the same penalty. Why can't Wit only set out
the first half and play the second. But also, Matt,
I'll eliminate sack yardage going away from your rushing.
Speaker 6: Total eliminated, eliminating all the too many transfers.
Speaker 2: Yep, we're eliminating notre Dame. Yep. Targeting, targeting Yeah, uh,
super chet here from Dane.
Speaker 4: It is way past time to make officials employees of
the league and every sport and hold them accountable like
every other major employee.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 4: Uh, they should be held to the same standards as
coaches and players. I totally agree. You're making dollar dollar
bills doing what you're doing. And look it's great. Look
you mess up. We mess up. Everybody messes up. Nobody's
perfect out there. But just have to answer the question
I would do. I would respect it so much if
a referee is like, here's what I saw, Here's what
I thought. Hmm okay, and that's how I interpreted, and
I look, I messed up.
Speaker 2: I was wrong. Oh my god, that would.
Speaker 4: Go to be so great, Like how many NFL games
did you lose because of a bad call?
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, tell me what you saw, Like why did
you make that call?
Speaker 4: And you're a human being and you can give your
explanation to like what I saw, why I missed it,
and that would be so refreshing to me. Now it's
never gonna happen. They're like, well, it's it's dangerous for
the referee. What's the difference between putting them in danger
and putting us in danger? Because if I fumble a
game away, there's gonna be some pissed off Charger fans.
Speaker 2: Yep. If you threw an interception and some pissed off
Packer fans.
Speaker 6: And there's certain penalties out there are certain plays that
should be able to be reviewed and penalized after the fact,
Like if the league office and that Auburn Oklahoma games
should be able to call and say that was an
illegal play.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not talking about pass interference. I'm not talking
about holding, I'm not talking about targeting. I'm not talking
about things like that. But like agree, just just blatant,
like against the rules of the game.
Speaker 2: Of focal Auburn. You can't hide a player anymore, Okay,
what a player for a touchdown?
Speaker 6: What if the referees and this has happened before, they
don't count that there's twelve people on the field for
the defense and the defense makes a big stop. The
league office should be able to say, hey, no, no,
there was twelve on the field, y'all missed it, which
is fine, Okay, don't miss it again. Slap on the wrist, like, uh,
there was twelve against eleven and can't stand like for
that to happen. What if you're Auburn like they scored that,
we should have won the game. First of all, there's
a fumble touchdown, then there was an illegal play. Ncashauld
have to pay Auburn like a million bucks right now.
They should just hand him a million dollar. Give me something.
You can't give me the win? I get it because
you don't, can't take it away. Whatever, give me some money.
Speaker 5: What crew was it? It was in the NBA a
couple of years to go the crew because like they decide,
got at the halfway point of the season, which crew
is gonna get to appreciate the NBA Finals. They took
it away from the crew because they had missed so
many calls and they're like, you don't get to do
the NBA Finals anymore. Like that dips into their paycheck,
like maybe.
Speaker 6: Something they do that in the NFL too. The best
crew cruise get the Super Bowl and.
Speaker 4: Lance red inside the by U four chat was sucks
them both went. In DJ's case, it was called. It
wasn't called on the field, the booth buzzed down for
a review. I didn't even think about that. Ye, Like
somebody saw that. I was like, oh my gosh, that's
not what we're going to. That is too tough.
Speaker 2: And he definitely breathes like this, yeah with his mouth,
not his nose. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And he hadn't he hadn't played a lick of football,
couldn't pop a pimple on the football field. I believe
that was too roughouse Uh, real quick, because I know
we got doctor Adeward's probably waiting in the hallway there.
Speaker 2: We apologize.
Speaker 4: The one thing that I would change if I was
the Commissioner of college football, everyone would have uniform scheduling.
Every league would play the same amount of conference games,
which the ACC is playing nine as well. The SEC's
moved to nine, but the Big Ten still doesn't have
the role where you've got to play a Power four
opponent outside of conference play like the SEC does.
Speaker 2: I would have it.
Speaker 4: Hey, you got to play nine conference games and your
tenth game has to be against at least one power
for non con opponent, and the other two games you
can play directional school you if you want to. I
would actually get rid of the FCS games. Sorry, FCS,
I love you, I appreciate you. You have hall of
famers that have played at that level. But I'm talking
about give the G six those teams that opportunity to
play against the Power four team. So nine conference one,
Power four, two G six games. Everybody in the ACC,
the Big Ten, the Big twelve, and the SEC have
to follow.
Speaker 2: The same rules. And that would be my change, my
first change. And I'd also take away UFC's claim to
the three national championship.
Speaker 4: There's only one crystal ball and it's in Beton Rouge, Louisiana.
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Speaker 2: You got a little bye week.
Speaker 4: Certainly enjoy one on a bye week, but you got
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great time to go for dose. All right, when we
come back, as we talked about, there is a major
major injury in the SEC at the quarterback position. We'll
tell you who that is and what it looks like
and how long he's going to be out with doctor
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Speaker 5: My love.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, welcome back, yeah and OTB here
on this Wednesday morning.
Speaker 2: It is Wednesday morning.
Speaker 4: We're gonna call it eight fifteen and acts like we
were on time even though it's eight twenty four. Sorry,
Doctor Stephen Etherich joins us. Now, Doc, we were acting.
If we were the commissioner of college football, what we
would change. Flenn's number one was he would make Notre
Dame either get kicked out or join a conference and
love college football like that.
Speaker 2: I went with scheduling.
Speaker 4: I want everybody to play nine conference games, one Power
four non con game and then Group of Six and
the other two.
Speaker 2: No more FCS games.
Speaker 4: Sorry, we love you, but that's what I wanted, Alandra said,
transfer portal titey, what was yours?
Speaker 5: I mean targeting, but also our takeaway satyardage counting against
your Russian tilt.
Speaker 2: That's very dumb.
Speaker 4: If doctor Steven Ethridge was the commissioner of college football,
the first thing that you're doing, yeah, I kind of you.
Speaker 2: Play college football, you know, I mean say.
Speaker 9: I like, I like everyone's uh, you know, it's funny though.
The one that we talked about this past or maybe
two weeknds ago is the targeting one. I feel like
you got to remove it or at least get the
suspension or throw them out of a game, you know,
maybe nade the penalty.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that flagrant or two.
Speaker 10: Yeah, basketball, that's I like that idea.
Speaker 9: But uh but I also just I want to get
rid of the the little games as well. That for me,
it just that's probably my most passionate drives me crazy,
you know, and especially when we see injuries, and that's
you know, obviously personal to me. And I hate your games.
When you you're playing. I don't want to throw any
specific schools out.
Speaker 2: Say directional school US that's what we call when.
Speaker 9: We're playing the directional schools, and and you get a
guy that gets hurt, and it's just it hurts that
much more when that that happens. So I guess that's
when I'm But the targeting one is is also near
and dear, because every time I watch those, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's definitely targeting, not I mean, whatever I think it
is is.
Speaker 10: I know it's gonna be opposite, no.
Speaker 2: Doubt, per same way.
Speaker 10: And I'm bat in zero.
Speaker 2: I am yes, absolutely, I would not be in the
Hall of Fame either. I am not three for ten.
I am zero for ten.
Speaker 4: All right, there is a big injury in the SEC
the Heisman front runner John Mattier. It broke yesterday that
he is going to have thumb surgery. And I believe
the timetable that I saw and this was reacting as
soon as it happened, like three to five weeks, so doc,
and it's always throwing hand. By the way, how can
you have surgery on your throwing hand on your thumb
feels pretty important and only be out three to five weeks.
Speaker 9: There's there's a lot of injuries, and again we don't
know exactly what this one is. They were they were
you're not really voked with what it is, which we'd
be the same. So I'm not saying anything negative there.
But you know, one one that I think that we
all know about if you go back to I believe
it was the either eighteen or nineteen year when Drew
Brees had his he had a ligament injury in his thumb.
Speaker 2: He had the US.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's what's called a gamekeeper thumb or sometimes
called a skiers thumb. But there's a ligament on the
sort of on the inside of the thumb to keep
your thumb from pulling out right. And the funny thing was,
I remember watching that game and they had that aerial
shot and I saw them doing the exam and probably
something they didn't want us to see, but when they
did that exam, I saw his thumb kind of open up.
Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, he's he's out, you know what, no doubt,
and he came back. I think it was five weeks.
Speaker 9: You know, if there's more more modern techniques where you
can do an internal brace, so maybe he had the
same injury. You know another thing, you know, with a
broken bone in the hand, uh, if once you start
getting new bone growing on it, a lot of times
we'll go in there, we'll put a little plate, you know,
so you have the bone that's the base of the thumb.
The metacarpool is one that breaks a lot. Sometimes you're
gonna put a plate on it. And as soon as
we see new bone growing, which is usually around that
four to six week range, So so maybe.
Speaker 10: They're doing something like that, you know. And and again it's.
Speaker 9: It's obviously position specific. It's as a quarterback, you know.
I think I think that's the best case scenario is
three to five weeks. You know, he's got a grip
and throw, and if it was the other hand, to
your point, or if he was a lineman or a
defensive lineman, we could club him up and he can
play this week.
Speaker 10: So there's there's a lot of relativity to that.
Speaker 9: But if I had to guess, I'd say one of
those two, you know, something they could they could get
a little little plate on there and heel or maybe
they fixed that ligament and do an internal brace would
maybe gives a lectra support to it.
Speaker 4: But how how do you throw a ball? Matt Like,
I don't know how important the thumb is. I know
the index finger is important to a quarterback. But I
feel like the thumb, I'd say it's important, separates us
from the animals. Jake, for sure.
Speaker 6: So I want to know about So when you're talking
about surgery on your hand, and so I know we've
talked about turf toe and surging on our feet, but
to me, the hand is like a completely different animal
because it control like it's everyday life, especially your thumbs.
Like there's so many bones, there's so many ligaments. A
lot can probably go wrong with that. Like you if
your foot heels up and it's still a little bit
stiff the rest of your life, okay, fine, but like
your hand, fine motor skills, your day to day just
every day living. I would assume that, like it's a
hand specialist that is dealing with that and it's something
that you probably got to be carefully. Do not rush
this back because you're talking about, like I'm being able
to use your thumb as well for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 9: Yeah, hand is one of those areas that that, to
be honest, it should scare you a little bit if
you're not an expert.
Speaker 10: You know, I see a hand injury.
Speaker 9: There's certain injuries where I'm a little bit more aggressive,
you know, if I'm treating it a little bit more
comfortable doing it. Like even somebody comes into the emergency
room if they've got like an abscess, so you know,
a boil and infection in their hand, even something like that,
where maybe if it was on your leg, I would
just you know, lance it for you. But if it's
somewhere in the hand, a lot of times I'm gonna
call the hand surgeons because you got so much packed
into that small place. Like you said, you have the
fine motor skills and and one wrong move, you know
you can if you cut a nerve, you cut a
ligament attendant, something that's really vital. You know, man, that
could be catastrophic to It's not just your ability play football,
but to your point, you know, just writing, grasping, gripping,
doing your normal day to day stuff. So you know,
it's it's something where you really need somebody good. You know,
we're very fortunate here. You know, our partners that I
work with, We got a couple of guys with hands
that are just I mean, there's some bosses. I mean
they're fantastic guys, and but I'm sure you know, I
think I read with with tier. I think he's going
out to the guy in California. I think it was
the same guy that actually did Drew Breeze as surgery.
I'm not mistaken. So you know there's guys that you
want to see the right people if it's a hand
for sure. Yeah, how toime is that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: So if let's just say, like you go see a
specialist or whatever, like, what's the communication like between the
team doctor and that specialist.
Speaker 2: Because a specialist, he saw it, he was there, he
was inside.
Speaker 4: Is the team doctor getting all the photos, all the
surgery notes and everything you're going over that with the specialists?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 10: Yeah, in a perfect world, yes, I should say that.
Speaker 9: What we've learned is there are certain people that are
better at that than others, not just the surgical side,
but and ideally for us, you know, if we're working
with the team, you know, we're fortunate that we have
really good people here.
Speaker 10: We're able to do most of the surgeries here in house.
Speaker 9: But you know, for a lot of reasons, you know
today's A and AIDS, there's some agent pressure. Sometimes sometimes
people just want to go back home maybe where they're from.
There's times where we see those scenarios we get some
of the guys when they go to the league that
want to come back here and have surge with our guys,
you know, so it's what you're comfortable with. So but
in a perfect world, yeah, we want to have great
communication with those guys and most of them do. Especial
the guys that are working with athletes on a regular basis,
they understand the importance because for one, you know, you
want your guy to do well, but they also care
about their reputation. And if if you get a hand
surgery and then you come back here, and if if
we don't know what's going on, and if maybe we're
not doing a good job with the rehab or we
don't know what you did and we're not communicating, well,
it doesn't just look bad on us, you know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 9: So and obviously our first concern is if we want
the guys to do well. And I think that's most
of us. But these guys, especially these elite guys around
the country, they're they're most of them pretty good about communication.
Speaker 2: So I just this is like a hand anatomy question.
Speaker 6: It's like I would think you would want that hand
specialist that's dealing with hands every single day because like
there's so much stuff happening in there, so many ligaments,
so many veins, so many all this attendance. It's like
it's like a nineties action movie. Like if you don't
have like a guy that's a specialist, it's like, all right,
which wire do I cut? Here?
Speaker 2: Is it? The red, the blue, the green, the yellow wire?
What is it?
Speaker 6: Because like when I had elbow tenonitis, like I learned
a lot about the forearm, Like I learned that an
old nerve on mine might not go in the same
might not say, have the same anatomy as yours. It
might go under this muddle muscle and the other person
might go above it or to the side of it.
So I would assume that's the same. Like when you
open up somebody's hand, it's like, all right, this is
the nerve here. It's usually by this bone, but for
this guy, it's on a different bone. So like you're
looking at just.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you want you want somebody, Like if you're cutting
on my hand, I want somebody who.
Speaker 10: Has done it. That's all they're doing to your point.
Speaker 9: And and you know, one thing I tell my pace
is a lot is look, you know, the human body
doesn't usually read the anatomy textbooks. So even though we
think we know what things should look like, and look,
we do we do this stuff, but I see weird
stuff every day. And that's one thing I tell my
pace all the time, is like, look, we know this
is what we're pretty sure of, but everybody's a little different.
Your anatomy probably is a little different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: We we can probably go into that as deep as
you want, but as his brain, yeah that's true. But
the reality of it, yeah, we're all a little bit different,
and there's a lot of a lot of variations. So
having somebody that that not only does it all the time,
but who's probably seen those variations over and over and
over again, and somebody who really takes takes pride in
their craft, that's where you want to go. And Saiunfortunately,
you know, we've got a lot of good guys here,
like I love. I mean, I never worry about hand
injuries in my clinic because we got some studs. But
but it makes a difference, you know, it really makes
my job easier when I have those people out there.
Speaker 2: With t Bob's hands been big enough to operate on.
Speaker 10: That would have been difficult. It would have been difficult.
Speaker 2: Thought.
Speaker 10: It's definitely a specialist for that.
Speaker 2: But the monocle was like flip down, just keep keep.
Speaker 4: One one that I wanted to ask you about. All right,
So we see an ankle, okay, And when I was young,
I just thought an ankle was an ankle and if
your sprained dr ankle, your sprained your ankle. Now it's
like we always get into the high mid low. What's
the difference in return? Like, because how it feels like
obviously the worst. We hear that all the time. What's
the other two though? Like if you got you know,
I don't even know what like you would call it?
What is the term you would use for other ankle injury? Right,
So I toil We break them down.
Speaker 9: Here have high, you have medial, you have lateral, so
media on the inside later on the outside, and you'll
hear some slight different variations the way people break them down.
But that's typically the way that I like to look
at it. It's it still comes back to severity.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 9: You know, a very mild high ankle, even though we
don't like high ankles, probably gets back quicker than say
a severe lateral. So we've got to kind of understand
that there is that. But on the average, high ankles
are the long ones, and it is it is it
a grade one and grade two of grade three. I
think you know, we've talked about some of that grade ones.
You know, we can get those back sometimes in a
week if it's the lower end, you know, milder version
even of a high ankle. Now again that's best case scenario.
Really good job where reh having it. They do a
really good job of getting the inflammation out of it
throughout the week. We've had some of those come back,
you know, in recent examples, whereas they can.
Speaker 10: They can be four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks.
Speaker 9: Most of your your typical lateral angle, that's the most
common angle.
Speaker 10: That's when you kind of roll it and spraying the outside.
Speaker 2: It swells up. When you're really swells up.
Speaker 10: It's not a real bad one.
Speaker 9: Those are guys you can use to get a good
brace on them. You can tape them up pretty good
and most of the times get those guys back the
next week. I mean, again, there's not a lot of
structural damage associated with it.
Speaker 10: Beyond that.
Speaker 9: The medial side is sort of the in between. Sometimes
those can be a bear. It just depends they're a
little bit more unpredictable, at least in my experience.
Speaker 10: But so it can be all over the map.
Speaker 6: Though, Doc Class one here, I know you're more focused
on the football side of things and not the baseball
side of things. But last night David Fry for the
Cleveland Guardians took a ninety nine mile per hour fastball
to the face cart it off the field hospital. So
when you're dealing with something like that trauma to the face,
I assume that of course you're going to see if
like everything's working properly with the significant of the damages.
But like it was a doctor, an orthopedic doctor, whatever
it is, they work like with hand in hand with
face doctors, plastic surgeons, Like how does that hold?
Speaker 2: Like what is the face trauma?
Speaker 9: What's a fast so well, I think you hit the
nail on that. The first the first step we got
to make sure that there's not an immediate, you know,
serious and they have a globe injury to the eyes.
This something where we need to get emergency optalmology involved,
or we worried about vision, could they go blind? Things
like that, If it's something to the jaw and neck area.
Speaker 10: Do we have to work out an airway?
Speaker 9: Is this something where they might you know, if they're
having a lot of bleeding and going down the throat,
could they.
Speaker 10: Just fixiate on that.
Speaker 9: So obviously there are life threatening injuries that occur with
even something like a baseball to face, especially if it's
coming ninety something.
Speaker 10: Miles an hour.
Speaker 9: But assuming we get past that, then then yes, we're
looking at you know, we're working with our oral facial guys.
We're working with with with optalmologists if necessary. Sometimes, yeah,
we do get the plastics guys involved, especially for the
long term because you know, obviously we're our first concern
is functionality, healing, recovery. But but some of the plastic
guys do really good work. You know, we're lucky, you know,
in the sports medicine side, we have we have a
really good relationship with our community here. We've had a
few face injuries. We've got a couple of really good
surgeons over at the Lake that we've used that do
a fantastic job. And literally they know and when they
get a call from one of us, they're going to
answer it pretty quick, Yeah, pretty much right away. And
and so the nice thing is we're able to get
that information quickly, get to get the athletes fixed, if
that's what the case is. And and sometimes it's surgical
as well. Sometimes those things are are just as important,
you know, and it affect you long life term, long term.
Speaker 4: And y'all just like put yourself in that position. Yeah,
I mean our fastball to the good Lord.
Speaker 2: Hope. Hopefully David Fry is okay.
Speaker 4: Former Northwestern State demon uh so has tats here to Louisiana.
Remember watching him play really really good college player. Made
the All Star team in twenty twenty four for the
Guardians as well. So hopefully he's okay. Doc, We appreciate it.
Looking forward to seeing you in Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Let's go. You're over the weekend.
Speaker 10: Fourhead docks for home, home, hometown of your guy.
Speaker 2: It is it is.
Speaker 4: Uh did we take family vacations to tupelou Mississippi growing up?
Probably because went to Gray Slaying like thirty seven times.
Speaker 10: Growing you gotta get we're all started too, that's right.
Speaker 2: No question about it, Doc. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Problem all right, So we'll be back more otb bench
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the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 11: Baby baby, baby, baby baby, as I would never.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what burnt CD used to hate to
see me coming. This was on m P three's.
Speaker 6: Remember when you figured out that you could make it
an MP three file. You could go from burning ten
to twelve songs per CD depending on the link, So
you burn in about one hundred YEP to one twenty
MP three's.
Speaker 2: Oh that was a big day. A little stack.
Speaker 6: Go to best Buy, I get that circle stack of
like one hundred CDs.
Speaker 2: Flank.
Speaker 6: Then that one person in your in your grade that
had the proper file in their computer and the proper
stickers they would print out designed labels for the top
CD customize.
Speaker 2: It at Treeport evangel It was big to have.
Speaker 4: Like I think the girls would have different color sharpies
and they would like, you know, drawl they come up
with like.
Speaker 7: Some good art I mean, and like label it like
you would come up with like a name for this.
Speaker 2: Yes, And is.
Speaker 6: There anybody on earth better at drawing block letters or
bubble letters than thirteen to sixteen year old girl.
Speaker 8: No, God, I remember blot They.
Speaker 6: Would write these letters to each other and they would
spend what seemed like two and a half days.
Speaker 2: I'm just writing the person's name. Yeah. Bubble letters were
big when I was in like middle school. I mean
the art, the artistry.
Speaker 8: Sometimes when I doodle, I still do the bubble letters.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 7: Like if I'm in a meeting and I have like
a notebook and I'm bored and listening or whatever, like
I start bubble lettering my name.
Speaker 4: I yeah, if I if I got a notebook in
front of me, and you'll, like, by the end of it,
you'll see it on like my live sheet.
Speaker 2: I'm just doodling my out.
Speaker 4: My go tos are always I draw the Adidas logo
and the Nike check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Like to this day, I'll throw one of those s's
from Mary.
Speaker 2: I'll throw one of those. I'll draw one of those.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, son, do you want to see how I
can turn six lines into a work of art?
Speaker 2: Watch this. I used to put that as the S
in my last name. I'm like teach hated it. Wow,
It's like it's not even an you can't put that
as your name.
Speaker 3: An she's wrong, she's wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your teacher, guys, what do you want? I just
still don't get it.
Speaker 6: How are teenage girls so good at doing block letters?
It's a talent because I used to try to do
it too, but I would do it like ten and
it just.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make it. Three D show.
Speaker 7: Shadow shadow it yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 6: The shadows was a little bit above my pay grade.
Oh no, but I could three D the absolute hell
out of a block letter.
Speaker 8: Say that?
Speaker 2: Or I can try three D to f the capital
F wow that yes?
Speaker 8: Or like the O is my favorite? You know it was.
I could make the heck out of a cube like
I could.
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you go when it gets behind the initial
the first the front side?
Speaker 2: Do you go dotted line? No? Okay, I like that though.
Speaker 8: Respect No, I just go straight, just straight line.
Speaker 4: This feels like something only the Hesters did. Because me
and my older brother like obsessed with sports. We used
like doodling. We should draw basketball uniforms like we would
draw like the tanks with the shorts, like the whole
combo North Carolina, the argyle down the side and that.
Speaker 6: Was somebody just made me left so in the chat,
don't forget about the doodle tornadoes?
Speaker 2: Y'all ever do tornadoes? No?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like you just drop a bunch of circles,
you get a deep then you get real.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Used to pop during science class?
Oh hey, why did OTB have one brain cell?
Speaker 4: We were drawing the didas logos in class, and tornadoes.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the things. Shadow letters there to talk
about shut three d in the hell out of it.
Nobody letter right.
Speaker 7: Nobody was talking about the stone skimming until we brought
it up on this show, and then you see it
on Pat McAfee The.
Speaker 2: Next Daybay Aj Hawky.
Speaker 8: Friday, Pat McAfee show is going to be talking about doodling.
Speaker 4: Doodle tornadoes will be talked about because AJ has got
some kind of listening device. You're in the studio. Yeah,
and now I'm going to lose Flynn for the rest
of the show because this man is dude.
Speaker 8: Doodling right now.
Speaker 2: Over there they Oh yeah, I got it. The white
bounce in here is real bad. It's so bad, very bad.
Well done. That's actually really good. So I just did that.
Speaker 6: Get so many seconds that I got to connect the
side here, got somebody seconds that took me, yeah, about four,
well done.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 6: Well just think of this picture Taylor in middle school
high school. No, it's his s doing his final exam,
Taylor sharp with this.
Speaker 8: As the S the final exam on his SA T.
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we'll take a break a little.
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bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 3: At first we started a record taking me put this,
I ain't never but now you're.
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Speaker 4: We'll push would you rather Wednesday to the nine o'clock
hour because I do actually want to ask Flann about
the John Mattiere injury. He was the leader in the
clubhouse for the Heisman Trophy, and he had played really well,
had a couple of big victories against Michigan, against Auburn,
and he is now going to be out three to
five weeks having surgery on his thumb. So not just
resting it and going through rehab, having surgery and having
to come back. I've never thrown a football in a game.
Jim Bo was sleeping on my skills. I don't know
what that's like. I can't imagine wearing any kind of
a brace on your thumb is fun. How much does
that change the out look for Oklahoma?
Speaker 6: It's I don't think you can overstate the impact that
it's going to have on I don't think they're a
complete enough team to lose one of the more dynamic
quarterbacks in the country and still be in this race. Now,
are they still good? They got a good defense, they
do they're offense, they're just not the I mean, they're
just not dynamic. I don't think from top to bottom
on their offense, they have the skill set, the overall depth,
and John Entier did a lot, but he didn't have
his best game this past week, and they didn't do
much on offense. Right, they had to rely on a
illegal play to get some of their points. So look,
they throw back up in there unless he's.
Speaker 4: He's got some experience. He's had to play here and there.
He replaced Jackson Norna for a little bit a year ago,
so it's not a completely new guy. But look, John
Metier was leading the Heisman Trophy conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not that.
Speaker 6: So I would say, playing pretty decent up to that point,
and he didn't play good. I didn't play great this
past weekend.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was right. Maybe it's a hand situation. You
do so real quick.
Speaker 4: You have bye week Kent State, so it's good for
your scheduling, But then you got to go to Dallas
and play Texas, and you've got at South Carolina in
that stretch. So not an easy stretch at the back
end of it, with Texas rivalry game obviously there in
the Cotton Bowl and then going on the road to
Williams Brice to play against South Carolina.
Speaker 2: So some big news coming out of Norman yesterday. John
Matier gonna be out three to
Speaker 6: Daniel makes a good point, John Matier not participating any
thumb wars