WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.439 Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome miss Warious afternoon to 2 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:12.599 try stay right now. It's a little chilly, little cold, 3 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.039 little fog. This morning, things are looking much better. We'll 4 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:17.519 see what happens later in the week. Tomorrow is supposed 5 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:20.280 to be another awful day with whether the meteorologis are 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.120 going crazy. Might even have snow, that four letter word 7 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:25.359 I'm frightened of. Just say snow and I go under 8 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:29.000 table somewhere and buy bread and milk. But nonetheless, Brian 9 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:32.359 Hamrick Power five, Brian Hamrick, Welcome again to the Bill 10 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:33.159 Cunningham Show. 11 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:34.039 Brian, how are you. 12 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.240 Good? Thanks again, mister Cunningham. 13 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:39.520 Of course I saw your reporting at the scene of 14 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.039 that house fire, that explosion. I saw it with Lester 15 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:45.399 Holt last night. It's incredible, incredible to be in one's 16 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.159 family room having some coffee in the morning and suddenly 17 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:50.479 the whole house explodes around you. Before we get to 18 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:54.799 that four seventy one. This morning, I listened to Sloane 19 00:00:54.840 --> 00:00:57.960 a little bit city council members on talking about what's happening. 20 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:02.200 A cop sent me a text the day after said, 21 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.560 there's this large steamboat replica underneath four seventy one. I've 22 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.159 not been there, but Tony Bender loves to play pickleball 23 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.319 down there with Brian Combs, and Combs normally beats his ass, 24 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.879 but that's a different story. And that there's a rubber 25 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:16.959 base of this large structure and then all of that 26 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.359 caught fire is like a blow torch. And the cop 27 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.159 told me it was a homeless encampment that was put 28 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.719 there by city council and the mayor who kind of 29 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:27.719 showed the homeless to the riverfront because of blink or 30 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:29.040 blink whatever that thing was. 31 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:30.799 I went to it. It was unbelievable. 32 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.319 They didn't want the housewives from Mason looking at the 33 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.359 homeless on Saint Francis Sarah Port, so they set them 34 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:39.239 down to the riverfront. They kind of liked it down there, 35 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.439 and somebody started a barrel of fire and a barrel 36 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.680 and suddenly all hell broke loose. What is your reporting, Indicati, 37 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.640 if anything about four to seventy one, the big mac Bridge? 38 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.000 Who started it? Why did it happen? Why is it 39 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:53.560 taking so long? Give me a full report. 40 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.879 Well, it's gonna take a while. That's the one thing 41 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.079 we can we can know for sure. This is gonna 42 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.319 take a while because there was a lot of damage 43 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:07.359 to that bridge. Those steel beams, those massive steel beams 44 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:11.080 melted like they were made out of candle wax underneath 45 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.639 it there. I'm over in West Virginia. Originally we built 46 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.520 stuff that went into the coal mine. We used a 47 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.520 lot of steel to do that. I'm telling you it 48 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.879 takes a lot to burn and melt steel. That takes 49 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.439 a flame. I think it has to be around twenty 50 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.800 six hundred degrees to melt steel. And if you look 51 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.840 at the temperature of plastic burning, which would have been 52 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:38.439 that material they made the wood out of, you know 53 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:45.400 that research recycled material and wood, it only burns at 54 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.919 a thousand. That plastic burns at two thousand. So it 55 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.879 doesn't get hot enough on its own. But the length 56 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.280 of time has something to do with the ability to melt. 57 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.080 But the other thing, I was talking to a firefighter 58 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.919 who has this idea, and then it's not you know, 59 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.360 we hadn't come out in the investigation, but it made 60 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:09.199 sense that because this is underneath of this bridge and 61 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.400 the smoke and the heat can't escape, it builds up 62 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:13.919 under there. 63 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:14.599 He says. 64 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.240 What happens is that the smoke itself. The particles in 65 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:23.080 the smoke actually ignite. This creates a hotter temperature. It's 66 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:27.840 almost like a flashover. But it continues to burn at 67 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:31.360 this excessive heat, more than it would normally burn on 68 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.479 its own, and that's what maybe that's. 69 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:35.360 One reason for this. 70 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:41.960 And obviously, while while the Federal Highway Administration put out warnings, 71 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:46.599 don't put anything, don't store anything under the bridges, but 72 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.319 yet this huge structure was underneath there. I don't think 73 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:54.840 anybody would have imagined it would have created a situation 74 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.879 like that, but it did. As far as how it 75 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.800 got started, I think the suspect I mean, it seems, 76 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:04.520 you know, to lend to a scenario where maybe there 77 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.960 were some folks down there who were trying to build 78 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:10.759 a fire that stay warm, and this is what you know, 79 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.840 this is what caused it. But so far there's been 80 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:18.839 nothing from the fire marshal or any of the investigators 81 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:21.560 to indicate that's what happened. Now, I did check with 82 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:26.279 the city about had they moved any homeless encampments. The 83 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:29.480 city story is they had not. They had talked to 84 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:33.160 a couple of groups apparently that were in different places, 85 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.879 but no one had asked anybody to leave or do anything. 86 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.639 According the city has a person that goes around and 87 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.160 before the police make contact with homeless folks, they try 88 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.560 to send out this this person to you know, so 89 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:50.519 they don't scatter whatever they want to they want to 90 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.000 try and I guess make a more extension. It's sort 91 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.959 of like, hey, here's some services available, can we get 92 00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.839 you into those services? And those folks respond as well 93 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.759 to police if they would. To this person, she tries 94 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.360 to go to rapport. So from that person is who 95 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:10.959 I'm getting the information, who deals with the homeless, you know, 96 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.800 on a daily basis, And their story is they didn't 97 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:18.000 ask anybody, but you know, anybody could walk under there. 98 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.199 I mean, these bridges are full. You know, you asked, 99 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:24.079 Josh Spring, you will tell you the place is alive 100 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.120 with people that live outside, homeless people who are in 101 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:33.560 these areas, and anybody. I mean, it didn't even have 102 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:38.519 to be anything to ignite that particular moment, but there 103 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.120 could have been anybody down there setting a fire. I 104 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.199 think it got kind of cool that night, right to 105 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.079 try and stay warm, and like you said, there's rough 106 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:51.040 everything flammable under there, and once that thing started, there 107 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:52.680 was no stop in it. 108 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:54.000 It might have been a couple of weeks ago. 109 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:56.879 I watched Channel five and one of your reporters did 110 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.040 investigation is the how is it possible a very large 111 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:05.000 plastic steam so playset could be put under a bridge 112 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.199 because you would think that's a bad place for that, 113 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.839 And this reporter said that they spoke to the guy 114 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.000 back in a few many years ago in which the 115 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.800 playset was put up there, and the city official contacted 116 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.759 ODOT up in Lebanon and said, we want to put 117 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:27.560 this large steamboat replica placeset under four seventy one and 118 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:31.000 the ODET officier ran down the list of prohibitions and 119 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:35.920 there was no prohibition against a large steamboat plastic playset 120 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:38.879 sitting on top of large rubber eyes mats, so if 121 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.199 you fall down, you don't get hurt. And they said, well, 122 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.160 there's no prohibition against it. So the city thought, well, 123 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:46.920 if we put it under the bridge, it won't weather 124 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.959 as much as putting it outside, so to speak. And 125 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:53.560 it's got shade when it's hot, and even if it 126 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.920 rains whatever, kids can still play in it or whatever. 127 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.800 So it just made sense to put a replica large 128 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:02.480 steamboat plastic play said under the bridge, and they owned 129 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:03.759 un officials say. 130 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:07.360 This isn't on the list. Well, right, and that's how 131 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:08.160 it happened. 132 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:11.519 You know. And I talked to them about that at length, 133 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.079 and I said, hey, you guys even had a note 134 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:21.920 from the Federal Highway Administration that said nothing should be 135 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.600 stored under these bridges. And they said it was when 136 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.399 I was talking to them, I mean, they were explaining 137 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.560 how this all kind of came out. They said, uh, well, 138 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.639 we were looking when the Highway Administration put that out. 139 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.839 They said, we were looking for like these things that 140 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.040 they had had, Like in California, there had been a 141 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.560 bridge burned there and there was a large storage area 142 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.319 and it was packed all the way to this It 143 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.240 was almost as high, well it was about as high 144 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.600 as that bridge, like forty feet, and it was stacked 145 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:53.879 all the way to the top with all these different 146 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.600 flammable things that were pilots under there and all kinds 147 00:07:57.639 --> 00:07:57.959 of stuff. 148 00:07:57.959 --> 00:07:59.959 And he sent me pictures. He goes, this is what 149 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:00.879 we were looking for. 150 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.720 We really didn't think about this this thing as being 151 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.519 that kind of a problem. And he goes, and imagine 152 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:10.040 what would have happened if we got this place set 153 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:14.399 under here and we say, hey, this you know, it's 154 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.079 for kids with disabilities and this sort of thing. It was, 155 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.439 you know, to kind of help them out as well 156 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.920 as we're going to rip this placeet out. It goes 157 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:23.920 you guys that have been down here doing stories on 158 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.759 how we're how we're trying to you know, take this 159 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.160 placeet away from these kids that needed to go. So 160 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.559 it just stayed there. So that's kind of the almost 161 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.720 kind of behind the scenes explanation that I got from 162 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.159 Odd on this. Uh, but they were not looking for 163 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:44.159 something and this just didn't seem to set off the 164 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:47.480 red flag that they were looking for. And and you know, 165 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:50.240 obviously now looking back on it, it definitely should have. 166 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.320 Well, no question and uh, the term failure of imagination 167 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:56.799 comes to my mind, like nine to eleven happened because 168 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.519 nobody could imagine that that Islamic extremist go through a 169 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.000 school to learn how to take off commercial jets and 170 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:05.600 not land and nobody made the connection between that and 171 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:07.480 nine to eleven. But afterwards you can look back and 172 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.360 say we had a failure of imagination. Same thing here 173 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:15.960 government officials saying, well, this large steamboat plastic replica on 174 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.279 the river. What can go wrong. Let's put tons of 175 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.919 rubber eyes tire shredded underneath so kids don't get hurt, 176 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.960 and it'll be assistance to have those with disabilitate. Great idea. 177 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:29.440 Now here's the big question. Tony Bender wants to know 178 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:32.360 the answer to this question. When will it be fixed? 179 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.759 Because these large team beams aren't on a shelf somewhere. 180 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.000 Let's go there to O Dot in Lebanon. They got 181 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:42.240 and they said weeks. I'm thinking months. What do you say? 182 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:47.879 Yeah, I'm gonna say months. I mean I would expect months, 183 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:52.240 and if we get anything less than that, that's, you know, 184 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.039 that's great, But I would say expect months on it. 185 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:59.639 I mean, I remember it happened almost the exact same 186 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:03.679 week when the Brent Spence Bridge had that fire over there, 187 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.639 and it was opened just before Christmas. It opened like 188 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:10.840 December twenty second or something, and I remember, you know, 189 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:12.600 we were all talking about this being you know, an 190 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.120 early Christmas present for everybody because they'd open the bridge 191 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.600 back up. And if this damage is more extensive, I mean, 192 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.799 you know, Christmas is still, you know what, a month away. 193 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.360 I think you've got at least as long as it's 194 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.440 took to do the last one, just based on it's 195 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:32.720 a similar kind of job, and I think it'll take 196 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:37.559 even longer just looking at the damage. I mean, those 197 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.440 steel beams are you know, they're gonna have to take 198 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.440 them completely out, They're gonna have to reap and then 199 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.960 they you know, reposition the new steel beams. Well, first 200 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.039 they got to get them, then they got to reposition 201 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.039 the new steel beams, both those in. Then they're gonna 202 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:53.799 have to do all the deck work and all the 203 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:57.519 concrete work, all of that, and everything's being cooked up there. 204 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.960 It'll be literally, I think it's gonna been up being like, 205 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.639 you know, building the whole new section to that. 206 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:07.279 Oh I'm glad I live in Kenwood, but we'll see 207 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:09.320 what happens. It's a it's a mess, and there's no 208 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.879 it's insoluble. I look at the people trying to get 209 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.440 like I talked to Trisia Mackie, trying to get home. 210 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:19.200 It's ridiculous. There's no easy way to do it. 211 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:23.279 It's ridiculous, and that this was a failure of imagination. Secondly, 212 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:26.639 I'm watching your report last night on NBC Nightly News. 213 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.559 His family is sitting in Claremont County, Tate Township. I 214 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.720 guess about eight thirty in the morning, having some coffee, 215 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.679 I'm sure, watching Channel five and listening to us, and 216 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:37.159 all of a sudden their house blows up. 217 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:38.559 What do you know about that? 218 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:40.480 I think you're going to be out there later today, 219 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:42.320 But to what even know about the house blowing up? 220 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.279 Yeah, out here right now as we speak, looking at 221 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:51.840 the at the scene. It is unbelievable how much damage 222 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.720 can be done in a split second. I mean, it 223 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:59.200 literally took his thing, you know, one second to throw 224 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.600 this house across this neighborhood. 225 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.200 Those parts I'm looking at huge. 226 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:09.759 Like huge plywood. A lot of thing's got to be 227 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.320 four feet by six feet, and it's in the top 228 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.279 of a tree, still hanging there, even with the wind 229 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:17.919 kind of picking up right now. 230 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:18.720 Uh. 231 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:23.679 Insulation all over, probably maybe almost a quarter mile away. 232 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:27.720 Insulation in the tops of trees across the road from 233 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:32.279 where it was. The entire area, there's nothing, there's no 234 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:34.080 two boards that are standing. 235 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:34.840 Uh. 236 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.759 There's one section of a wall that you can see. 237 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:41.799 It is the plywood, and it's it was blown up 238 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:44.840 against the camper that was blown off of its base. 239 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.159 So it's all sitting crooked over there. That's the only 240 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.440 like two sticks that are left together. The rest of it, 241 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.519 it's just, you know, it's just pieces that are you know, 242 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.919 two feet long one foot long. And folks were in 243 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.120 there when this happened. I don't know if they were 244 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.799 in bed, if they were awake, but apparently according to 245 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:09.720 some of the folks in town, and this is where 246 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:12.759 the investigation goes as to where how did this happen, 247 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.039 And the things that they're going to be looking at 248 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:19.799 would include this h fat guy was there. We were 249 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:24.360 told he was called there for a heating issue. You know, 250 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:27.080 that's not been examined by the you know, State Fire 251 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.120 Marshal's office yet, but that's one of the things we're 252 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:30.879 going to look into. 253 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:31.840 Uh. 254 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.080 They're also going to look into propaine. That's what was 255 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:38.960 run into the house. Usually and like in every one 256 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.679 of these I've been to, and I've been to several 257 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.639 of these, and they look almost exactly the same. Almost 258 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.919 all of them looked just like this, not one brick 259 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:51.840 standing on top of another. But usually there's a gas 260 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:55.200 source of some sort uh, some sort of you know, 261 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.159 usually that's the case, and there I don't think there 262 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.399 was gas in this house, but there was propaine, and 263 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:07.559 this HVAC worker miraculously survived this explosion. No one knows 264 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.480 if he was inside, if he was outside going inside, 265 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.440 or where he was at the time of this explosion, 266 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:18.360 but witnesses say he was. He was sinsed, he was burned, 267 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.320 but he was alert and talking after. 268 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.759 But they did transport him to the hospital. 269 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:23.799 So there's two dead. 270 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:27.759 I would assume the home residence homeowners and the HVAC 271 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:32.080 guy is alive, but he's down at UC getting burned. 272 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:32.279 Care. 273 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:32.919 Is that correct? 274 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.039 Yeah, it sounds like that's that's what happened to him. 275 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.759 And how severe those injuries were, it's not clear, and 276 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:44.120 they have not released a condition or a name on 277 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.440 him or officially on the victims, but it looks like 278 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.519 the victims were the folks who lived in this house. 279 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.639 And Yeah, the question is going to be is it 280 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.639 was you know, was there an issue with the heating 281 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.080 system in here? Ye? There was there was something that, Yes, 282 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.919 it was that what this guy was here to deal with. 283 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:11.960 And did that issue, you know, become explosive while he 284 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.440 was here? Was there something that he did that created 285 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.519 that issue? You know? Where was everybody at the time 286 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:20.679 these are all the elements that that I don't think 287 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.159 even investigators know yet. 288 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.960 Every day when you report to work on this Wednesday afternoon, 289 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.879 you have no idea what's going to happen. A blow 290 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.039 torch takes down I four seventy one, and then you're 291 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.440 in Claremont County and Tate Township. The house literally blown up. 292 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.120 I've seen this. Indianapolis had the same thing happened about 293 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:40.639 two months ago. The house, an upscale house, maybe worth 294 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.320 three quarters of a million dollars, blows up and it's 295 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.759 because of a natural gas leak and then ignition. And 296 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.279 this thing again was unbelievable, and we wish nothing but 297 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:51.960 the family remaining, nothing but the best. 298 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.879 Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, Well we had that one up 299 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:56.919 in Hillsboro, what was about a year or so ago, 300 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.240 and they still haven't determined what caused that and was 301 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.960 there you know, that was a deadly explosion as well. 302 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:04.360 Unbelievable. 303 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.720 Brian Hemrick, thank you, and we'll see what happens in sadness. 304 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:10.720 Two people are dead for seventy one. It's not like 305 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.840 the same category as I seventy five. For some reason, 306 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.960 one's like an interstate highway system for seventy one, I 307 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.679 guess doesn't count, and I don't think O dot and 308 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:23.399 I don't see federal officials Mike DeWine out to be involved. 309 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:23.840 I don't know. 310 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:26.879 Twenty four to seven they say they're working, but right 311 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.080 now I don't know. But there's not the same priority 312 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:31.799 on four to seventy one as there was in I 313 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:32.600 seventy five. 314 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:33.399 Do you agree? 315 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.080 Well, I think that you know they have both of those. 316 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:42.159 You know, that's seventy one and seventy five going across 317 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:47.120 that bridge, So it's literally two interstates in one going 318 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:52.840 across the going across the Ohio River there. 319 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:54.159 I always wondered why. 320 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.639 They didn't, you know, we've coked, right, we're trying to 321 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:59.440 free up from that that they wouldn't take seventy five 322 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.440 on seventy one, would be for seventy one and then 323 00:17:03.519 --> 00:17:06.000 bring him back together as you get, you know, across 324 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:07.039 the river on. 325 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.920 The other side, somewhere in southern Kenton County. Put it 326 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.400 in southern Kenton County, in which case you don't have 327 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.839 that issue. But no matter what happened, you should not 328 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:19.319 put a large recycled plastic steam boat replica play it 329 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.799 underneath any bridge at any point. 330 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:23.559 But Brian Hammrick once again. 331 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:26.680 Yeah, I think that's the takeaway. 332 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.440 Yeah, that's the next memo coming from the Highway Mane. 333 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.440 We got another memo coming and Brian Hammerck once again, 334 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.519 thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. 335 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:38.440 Thank you, Brian, Thanks again, Miss Cunningham, Thank. 336 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.160 You Brian Hamrick of the Power five. No one better 337 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.079 at what he does. Let's continue with more coming up 338 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.519 later as the morning Joe and Zika Prazinski what they're 339 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.720 doing on the Morning Show, and more about politics and 340 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.640 the Trumpster at your home of the Bengals News Radio 341 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:58.079 seven hundred WLW. And by the way, Paul lucked us 342 00:17:58.119 --> 00:17:59.960 a great job at McKinley Mortgage. 343 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:00.599 Week of Dip. 344 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:05.039 Get it done right now, seven nine, seven hundred. Let's continue. 345 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.359 One cannot imagine a worse traffic catastrophe and what's happening 346 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.559 on the Big Mac I four seventy one Bridge. Fortunately, 347 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:14.680 I live about a mile from where I broadcast from 348 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:19.039 in Kenwood, in the triangle between Kenwood and the broadcast center, 349 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:22.160 my home and Kenwood Country Club Kenwood Town Center. I 350 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.920 happen to live here, and thank god I do. I 351 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.599 cannot imagine my producer Tony Bender spents it two hours 352 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:32.480 every night, every day trying to get to Boone County, 353 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.119 which everyone else it must be five hundred thousand a 354 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.799 day that try to get over I seventy five. One 355 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:41.400 of the other bridges, the Taylor Bridge or the four 356 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.279 to seventy one bridge, but it's the major thoroughfare between 357 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.160 northern Kentucky and Cincinnati, other than the Brent Spence Bridge. 358 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.920 Was just packed constantly, and one couldnot imagine a few 359 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.920 years ago, the City of Cincinnati recreational director said, we 360 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.119 need a we have money available here, and let's build 361 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:03.400 one of these large a plastic recycled steamboat, which can 362 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:06.599 be huge. It can be handicapped accessible. We can put 363 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.680 two or three inches of shredded rubber tires so if 364 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:13.240 you fall down, you don't hurt a knee. And this 365 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.599 huge facility, which I understand is like thirty by sixty feet. 366 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:19.319 It's huge in which kids can go up and down. 367 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:21.200 And they've decided to put it underneath the four to 368 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:22.160 seventy one bridge. 369 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:23.640 What can go wrong? 370 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:25.920 The thought is, well, in the summertime it will be 371 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.279 a little bit cooler, and if it's raining or inclement 372 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:32.519 weather will be fine. Also, so that they rented up 373 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:35.400 the flagpole O Dot and Lebanon, and they looked on 374 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.480 the list of items prohibited and there was nothing there 375 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:42.839 about a replica plastic steam boat bridge and all that 376 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.519 rubber beneath I four seventy one. So they said, well, 377 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.240 it's not prohibited, so let's do it. So they got 378 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:51.799 the money from federal sources and built this huge facility underneath. 379 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:58.200 I'm told that there was a homeless encampment. It wasn't 380 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:02.000 an intentional opportunity by some terrorists to take down I 381 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.880 four seventy one that has over one hundred thousand cars 382 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:08.000 a day going across. That wasn't the purpose. The purpose 383 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.599 was to be warm. You might recall that night when 384 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:13.680 things got started at about three am, it was drizzling 385 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.519 a little bit chilly, and the cop told me that 386 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.319 there was a barrel fire started to stay warm that 387 00:20:20.519 --> 00:20:24.359 was begun on the rubber matting, not on one of 388 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:27.119 the levels of the steamboat, and it got out of hand. 389 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.920 It spilled out lit on fire. When ShredIt rubber catches 390 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:34.119 on like a tire, fire can burn for months at 391 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.319 very high temperatures, and then connected with the large steamboat, 392 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:41.160 recycled plastic and away you go with a blow torch 393 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.039 with temperatures over two thousand degrees that literally. 394 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:46.359 Melted steel beams. 395 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:50.799 And according to the so called experts who I discussed 396 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.400 this with, the items need to be fabricated to replace them. 397 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.119 But first of all, you got to stabilize what's up 398 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:59.599 there in the beginning, what's up to this point. They've 399 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:02.640 been able to do that, but now the investigation begins 400 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:04.640 and the fabrication starts, and here we go. 401 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:05.880