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your support. Maybe we should pay people to leave the country.
That's what the Trump administration is proposing. And I gotta
tell you, I like the idea. I like the idea.
I'll tell you in a minute, I'll give you the details.
But before we do that, I feel it's important to
revisit something that happened the other day, which was a
federal judge in Texas appointed by President Trump invalidated Trump's
invocation of the Alien n Act from seventeen ninety eight,
which Trump was using to direct the summary deportation of
Venezuelans alleged to be members of the Trende Ragua TDA.
Judge Francisco Rodriguez Junior wrote, quote, the historical record renders
clear that the president's invocation of the AEA through the
proclamation that Trump issued exceeds the scope of the statute
and is contrary to the plain ordinary meaning of the
statute's terms. Judge Rodriguez determined that designations are not insulated
from judicial as polit Okay, a second lend me back up.
This is, by the way Andrew McCarthy at National Review.
Judge Rodriguez determined, contrary to the Trump Justice Department's position
that designations are not insulated from judicial as political questions,
relying on the Supreme Court's World War Two era decision
in lou Deca versus Watkins, the designations are not insulated
from the judiciary. He agreed. And this is interesting because
again this is a Trump appointed judge, but he agrees
with a lot of what the Trump administration is doing
and arguing. But he's saying this Alien Enemies Act cannot
be used the way you're using it. He agreed with
the Trump Justice Department that a state of actual war
is not required. Okay, So that's been one of the
contentions from the left that you know, there's no declaration
of war against Trende Arragua or you know, Venezuela or whatever.
So without a declaration of war, then you can't invoke
the Alien Enemies Act. But the judge is agreeing with Trump,
saying there doesn't have to be an actual war, but
to trigger the AEA, an invasion or predatory incursion must
involve an organized armed force entering the United States to
engage in conduct destructive of property and human life in
a specific geographical area. Right, So, a criminal gang, a
criminal enterprise coming into the country is not the same
as a military incursion, an invasion of troops, that kind
of thing. The judge also said that while the true
administration had successfully linked so it did link, and the
judge agrees here it did link TDA to the ruling
regime in Venezuela, the Maduro regime. However, tda's activities in
the United States, even assuming they are directed by the
Venezuelan regime quote, do not fall within the plain ordinary
meaning of invasion or predatory incursion, even though the gang's
activities may well be unambiguously harmful to society in this country.
So he's saying, the terms invasion and predatory incursion means something,
and they meant something at the time the law was written,
and a gang coming across the border. Even if they're
trying to coordinate with Maduro, that's not the same thing
as was understood in the AEA. Again, this is just
a report on the judge's ruling. You can disagree with it,
and I'm I'm pretty sure they're going to appeal this.
But Rodriguez ruled that a permanent injunction would bar the
Trump administration from using the AEA proclamation against these Venezuelan aliens.
He also certified a class of similarly situated Venezuelans, but
he restricted. So that's one of the other things that
a lot of the lawsuits that have been brought that
have gotten these injunctions that you know, we've talked about
for the last few months now that there's there hasn't
been a certified class in the court, which takes some doing.
And you need to do that though, in order to say,
like all of these people are harmed in the same way,
they are all part of a class of complaintants, right
or complainants whatever. So he did that. The judge did
certify this class of people, certified a class of similarly
situated Venezuelans, but he restricted it only to the U. S.
District Court for the Southern District of Texas. That was
another argument that has been made that these judges in
these you know, sole districts are issuing injunctions and banning
things across the country and that's an abuse of their power.
So this judge restricted his ruling to just his district,
and I think that's the proper way to go. And
then if you get other judges that you know, make
different rulings, then you have a conflict in the district
court level. That then rises to the US Supreme Court
for them to decide because there's conflicting rulings at the
lower levels. He also deemed that the class is entitled
to the same protection. Rodriguez made clear that his decision
was not an impediment to the Trump administrations continuing to
pursue removal proceedings and enforce any final removal orders against
the Venezuelans in question, so they can continue with their
process to try to remove them through the process. But
he's talking about the use of the proclamation and the
designation of these guys under the AEA. Specifically, Andy McCarthy
at National Review says the judge appeared sympathetic to the
Trump administration's prioritization of immigration law enforcement. He even sided
with the Trump administration on important questions about the AEA,
like whether it could only be invoked under war conditions
he said no, and whether TDA was a de facto
arm of the Maduro regime. He said yes. McCarthy says
the judge is obviously correct, however, that there has been
no invasion or predatory incursion as those terms were understood
when the AEA was enacted. This is an originalist approach.
This is what conservatives have been asking for in their judges. Right,
what did the lawmakers mean at the time when they
wrote the law, and that's what he's referring to. The
administration would be better off abandoning the AEA, says McCarthy,
and then deporting TDA members based on the State Department's
designation of TDA as a terrorist organization. That's the way
to do it. These guys are TDA. TDA is a
terrorist organization. You gotta go. The administration would still have
to afford due process, but you could expedite the proceedings.
See once again, Congress is the problem here, right. Congress
can allocate money and build up immigration courts to clear
out the backlog. The problem with immigration enforcement is not
that federal law is too burdensome for the government. It
is that the government went way too long failing to
enforce the law, and Congress has not provided sufficient resources
to deal with the backlaw, and now we have crisis levels.
That's the problem. They need to dedicate resources to build
up an expedited system and clear the backlog as quickly
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In an interview on Fox News, Vice President jd Vance
said that the administration will be quote aggressively appealing this
ruling out of Texas by US District Court Judge Fernando
Rodriguez Junior, as well as other rulings that limit the
president's deportation powers. He said, quote the judge doesn't make
that determination whether the Alien Enemies Act can be deployed.
I think the President of the United States is the
one who determines whether this country is being invaded. That's
a fair point, too, right. He's obviously going to be
privy to information that we are not and the judge
is not. The proclamation triggered a flurry of litigation as
the administration tried to ship migrants it claimed were gang
members to a notorious prison in l Salvador. Of course,
Rodriguez' ruling is significant because it is the first formal,
permanent injunction against the administration using the AEA and contends
the President is misusing the law. This is a piece
over at the Associated Press, The judge wrote, quote, the
proclamation that Trump issued makes no reference to and in
no manner suggests that a threat exists of an organized,
armed group of individuals entering the United States at the
direction of Venezuela to conquer the country or assume control
over a portion of the nation. Well except apartment complexes, right,
I mean, there is that that slight ten t we
needs a little matter of the of the taking over
of an apartment complex. Right. But then again, if they didn't,
you know, go after the chaz Chop when they secede
it basically from America, and they claimed some area of
Seattle to be their own, in Portland to be their own,
then if they can do it, why can't TDA Rodriguez said, quote. Thus,
the proclamations language cannot be read as describing conduct that
falls within the meaning of the word invasion for purposes
of the AEA. So what happens well. JD. Vance says
they're going to appeal. That means it would go to
the New Orleans based Fifth US Circuit Court of Appeals.
That is among the most conservative appeals courts in America,
and it has also ruled against what it saw as
an overreach on immigration matters, both by the Obama administration
and the Biden administration. In those cases, Democrats were trying
to make it easier for immigrants to stay in the
US just in case anybody was unclear as to what's
going on here. Democrats effected an open borders policy. Democrats
wanted there to be this massive, Oh, I can't call
it an invasion, this influx of migrants into America.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: Posited that it is in order to increase the head
counts ahead of the twenty thirty census. They want more
people in certain areas so they can maintain their numbers
in the US House of Representatives, because those House seats
are assigned based on population. And if you can bring
a whole bunch of people in, who, by the way,
can't vote legally, but you bring a bunch of people in,
you do count them. And so when the census counts
them all that keeps your numbers high, that allows Democrats
to keep their seats. If I recall correctly, the analysis
that was run from the twenty twenty census count was
that there would have been a I want to say
it was like a twenty seven seat majority for Republicans
in the House had they not counted illegal aliens. That's
the difference, and to me, that's why Democrats are employing
this strategy. They don't care what it's doing to the country,
what impact it has on the economy, or anything. All
of those arguments a secondary the primary goal is power,
is to maintain their power. Because remember with Democrats, it's
never their message, it's always the messaging, right, So they
don't they they just believe that their message is the
correct one. Their policies are the correct ones. You just
don't understand why they're the correct ones. So they have
to They've got to keep their power somehow, just until
they figure out the messaging. So you get convinced that
the policies they're pushing are really for your benefit. You
just don't understand that yet, Okay, you just you're just
like a child. You don't get it. So they're going
to I suspect they're going to appeal. It'll go to
the Fifth Circuit, and the administration Trump administration, as it
has in other cases, could turn to appellate courts. They
could go all the way right to the Supreme Court
with an emergency motion of some kind. Supreme Court has
already weighed in once on the issue of deportations under
this Act, and the Supreme Court held that migrants alleged
to be gang members must be given reasonable time to
contest their removal from the country. And the Court has
not specified, though what length of time that actually is.
They just said a reasonable amount of time. All right.
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Russ who says, I am a believer in the idea
that Democrats were pumping up their census numbers to maintain seats. However,
there were also all the very red districts that were
flooded with immigrants under Biden. I'm having a hard time
squaring the two theories. I think that. I mean, I
don't know if they were sent specifically to red areas.
They did go to Red states, but I feel like
they were being sent to cities, and I think I
think the point there is and I would have to
see a list of all the cities where they were sent,
but they were getting sent all over the place, right, So,
And part of that may just be like you have
to spread it around because you can't overload one city
all at once. You got to give, you know, here's
a couple hundred for you, a couple hundred for you,
a couple hundred for you. You just kind of keep moving around.
It may just be sort of a tactical strategy because
you can't you can't just, you know, fly ten twenty
thousand illegal aliens, you know, one after the other after
the other, flight after flight into one city and then
completely overwhelm the city in a matter of weeks, right,
that would be too obvious. But if you do it
with a bus load here, a plane ride there, and
you spread it all around, and if you're sending them
into the cities versus rural communities, where you know, you
would be more cognizant of an overwhelming number of people
coming in in a short period of time versus a city.
But if they were getting sent to blue cities in
red states, I think that squares with the strategy of
juicing the census count. But I don't know, Like that's
the thing we like, it's speculation because there isn't any
other explanation that we can come up with that makes
any kind of logical sense. I guess maybe you hate
the country, right, like you hate America or something, and
so that's why you're doing it. Because I don't know,
I have like it's one of these things. This is
one of these issues where fifteen years ago, ten years ago,
not even when was Obama president through eight by two
thousand and eight, twelve sixteen, Yeah, so not even ten
years ago, Obama talked tough about the border. Hillary Clinton
was talking tough about the border, Chuck Schumer was talking
tough about the border, and then all of a sudden
everything changes. Because demographics is destiny. There was also that
part of the belief that if we bring in enough
people from overseas, then they'll vote for democrats, especially if
Democrats can can take control and give amnesty, you know,
take control of the Senate, in the House and the presidency,
and then they can then solidify their permanent majority with
a mass amnesty and then that's the way they hold
onto power forever. Like that's another strategy, sure, because like
try to think through like why would you do these things?
Like how and when you do those things, when you
do these policies, and then you see the human cost
to that, how do you how do you square that
in your own head? How are you not racked with
guilt that the system that you are running, that you
have built, and the ignoring of certain laws in order
to facilitate the mass migration across the border, and all
of the all of the atrocities that occur to the
people that are making that journey along the way, the
brutality of it, right, the sexual assaults, the physical assaults,
the kidnappings, the holding for ransom, the murders, Like why
would you why would you defend that system? Why would
you participate in that system? And like I struggle to
find a reason. And the only thing I hear from
like you know, people who aren't shot callers, these are
just sort of run of the mill lefties, you know,
in your neighborhood and whatever, and they, oh, you know,
nobody is a criminal and nobody is illegal, or something
like we should welcome the refugee like that kind of thing.
But that's not like you have a program that you
can use for this, and not everybody coming across is
an actual asylum seeker. They're not fleeing violence, and they're
not fleeing the kind of you know, atrocities that you
normally associate with seeking asylum. It was it was a
ruse the Biden administration. Alejandro Mayorcis, that's what he got
impeached for was creating this ruse of the asylum program
where everybody just got asylum, blanket asylum in contradiction to
the law. He got an impeachment charge filed against him,
and then the Senate, controlled by Democrats, never did anything
with it. This is why people got so fed up,
and this is why you're seeing. This is the backlash.
This is the they're saying, get them all out, we're done.
You can't open the gates and then expect people not
to note. So this is an interesting approach, and I
think that there's a fellow named Jeff Blair, and I
think he's exactly right in the tactic that the Trump
administration is utilizing here. So first, what is the trumpet
announcement that the Department of Homeland Security, according to their
press release, has announced a historic opportunity for illegal aliens
to receive both financial and travel assistance to facilitate travel
back to their home country through the CBP home app.
It's right on your phone. You can apply to go
home and will pay your way home. Any illegal alien
who uses the CBP Home app to self deport voluntarily
will receive a stipend of one thousand dollars paid after
their return to their home country has been confirmed through
the app. Self deportation, they say in the statement, is
a dignified way to leave the US and will allow
illegal aliens to avoid being encountered by US Immigration and
Customs enforcement. Even with the cost of the stipend, it
is projected that the use of this app will decrease
the costs of a deportation by about seventy percent. Currently,
the average cost to arrest, detain, and remove an illegal
alien is about seventeen thousand dollars. This is what Biden
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Russ with a follow up to his earlier message that
he says, I just reminded him that earlier. Today, he says,
I saw a car with two stickers on it. One
said in a democracy, no one is above the law,
and the second one said, no human being is illegal. Nice.
That's uh, no one's above the law, nobody is illegal.
Good lord. All right, let's head over to the phones
and talk with Pete. Hello, Pete, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Pete. Yes, sir, I think this Home Act
is probably brilliant in a lot of different ways. I mean,
you avoid the courts, right, you get the people to
self deport. But the other thing is you may get
the same people smuggled into the country for money, smuggling
them not even smuggling them out, just get them out
at one thousand dollars ahead plus plus transportation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, if you can get the people to
make the decision on their own, that it alleviates some
of the burden. I don't know how much. I don't
know how many people are going to do it, but
it would alleviate some of the burden at a lower cost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, much lower. But the other thing too, is on
the larger point, Pete, no matter what do you think
about Trump? This administration is loaded with billionaires, and you know,
billionaires don't get to be billionaires by not being real bright, you.
Speaker 1: Know, generally. Yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: This is this is innovative to me. I mean, you know,
on the surface, you say, geez, you know, we don't
want to got lee. You know, we're throwing more money
at it. But like you say, it's pennies on the dollar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, compared to the running through the process, which they
pegged that cost to arrest, detain and remove an illegal
alien is over seventeen thousand dollars. So if you can, yeah,
if you can you can pay the stipend then of
one thousand dollars, then that's you're saving sixteen k per person.
Speaker 2: Well but plus you got the course, right, Well that's.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they're including the cost to arrest, detain,
and remove. I think all three of those. I think
that covers the whole process.
Speaker 2: Well, the delay also, right, because he's said many times
loved this has just begun the works.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all the lawsuits and such absolutely so. Yeah,
so if you get people that start making this decision
to go back on their own, yeah, it saves you,
It saves you from the litigation, and it saves you
the money.
Speaker 2: So plus, you got the cartel guys that don't you know,
let's be honest, they got a financial incentive to round
these folks up and get them out.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see it going. Well, no,
you're not going to have You're not gonna have coyotes
running them back across the border, because the whole point
of the app is that you self identify. You come
out and say I'm here illegally. I'm going to take
your stipend and go home. And then it's like, okay,
take care and that's it, and your slate's clean with us.
And so you're going to voluntarily go back. You don't
have to, you know, trek across the desert and do
all of that. Again, you can get a plane ride,
so it's much safer for you to go home.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yeah it is. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pee appreciate the call man. According to the UH
the press release from the Department of Homeland Security, this
has already been done, so the first use of travel
assistance has already proven successful. An illegal alien that the
Biden administration allowed into our country utilized this program to
get a ticket for a flight from Chicago back to Honduras.
Additional tickets have already been booked for this week and
next week. If you don't like, if you don't want
to live in fear, you don't want to you know,
be separated from your your family or friends or whatever.
And some you know pt or some trauma PTSD, but
some traumatic ice intervention. Like in fact, our own sheriff, Gary,
not my fault, McFadden, he should be promoting this program.
He should be. This would prevent more arrests outside of
his jail, right, he's very upset about the arrests that
I did in front of his jail the other day.
And so here's a good way for you to cooperate, Gary,
You can promote this program. The CBP home app Self
deportation is the best, safest and most cost effective way
to leave the United States to avoid arrest. So you
get financial travel assistance and the stipend to return to
your home country. It's the safest option for law enforcement
for the illegal aliens. It's a savings to US taxpayers.
But here's a great insight, Jeff Blair, he writes for
a National Review, and he says, I actually think this
is a fine idea and they should have it ready
to go from the jump. Mitt Romney would have tried
something like this too, in case you don't recall the
self deportation remember that line and got him in all
the trouble when he was running for president. This is
incentivized self deportation with a chainmailed fist lurking behind it. See.
And this is why I think this can work versus
what Mitt Romney may have thought of or whatever his
effort would have looked like. I don't know, because the
idea here is that you've shown them this is what
we are going to do. Right, We're going to implement
this deportation policy. We're going to come pick you up.
We're not going to make any distinction. You know, we're
going after the people on our lists. And if you're
in a courthouse now, we don't care. We're coming in
a school, We're coming in right. And that is the
that's the stick, and here's the carrot. But if you
had offered it at the same time, just from a
strategy standpoint, right, people probably wouldn't believe that the deportations
would happen. Right, So you first, your first wave is deportations,
lots of you know, lots of operations. You want word
to go out. Government's cracking down. They're coming to get
the you know, the criminals, the violent offenders, and they're
going to work their way through the whole list and
all of that. And then as people recognize, oh my gosh,
and you see the stories, everybody's in a state of
fear and panic. Okay, here's your way home. I will
pay for you to go home. Now, take this generous
offer now, or you could end up down in Louisiana
or maybe you end up in the notorious prison in
El Salvador. Right, we've already shown you what we're this
is our plan, this is what we're going to do,
and at some point we're going to come across you.
Our paths will cross, and when they do, you know
what's coming. So you can now take this offer and
avoid the stick. I don't know if this was their
intent from the very beginning, but if it was, it's
a pretty good strategy I think, and it can help
reduce the numbers much more rapidly than if everybody has
to go through the process. All right, that'll do it.
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