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<v Speaker 1>We're Tom Lorenzo and this is the Pop Style Opinion

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<v Speaker 1>best Helegant is Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Pso I am the team your Tello, Tom Fitzgerald, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with the low and your t love Lorenzo

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<v Speaker 1>because my love husband day, are your lovely husband wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very very hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is nice, which is nice cold spring here in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we finally had a a heat wave. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of ours was up from Dallas and he

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<v Speaker 1>could not get over how hot it was here.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so funny because I was like, you're from Dalla,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? Anyway, I love it because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's short, short season. We get we see

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<v Speaker 2>the boys out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys in their short shorts. My days and short

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<v Speaker 1>shorts are probably behind me, but no, they're definitely. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have a pod Porio topic today, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>things that we're going to check in on. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are a little old because they're not that old,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're not up to the minute. Let's just say

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<v Speaker 1>our podcasting schedule got interrupted a couple of times because

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<v Speaker 1>May has the Metcala and the cam Film Festival, and

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<v Speaker 1>that just eats up a lot of our time, and

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I wasn't sure we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get one done this week, but I pushed through. I said, bitch,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do it. We're going to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes to my dick imline, but this is exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I're I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm like hiding in my room. And he comes

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<v Speaker 2>to go, like, we're doing a podcast that is not

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<v Speaker 2>true at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just joking, but I love this image that

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<v Speaker 1>you sell.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, hiding under the bed from me, Tom, I know, tinyrand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, trust me people you trust anyway. Anyway, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of topics talk about, one of which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Odyssey trailer. This is what I mean about

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<v Speaker 1>things not being completely up to the minute, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>dropped like two weeks ago and immediately turned into a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Nolan's Odyssey trailer stars dot A cast and Hathaway,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland, uh Zunday, Robert Pattinson, Matt Damon. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did sell.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, keep up with my list anyway, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>of course Lupede and yougo as the letwoy Jerry Helen

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<v Speaker 2>of Troy perfect choice in my opinion, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, but I guess we can. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>we can unpack here is did Christopher Nolan the director? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he had to have known there would be backlash against

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<v Speaker 1>the choice of Lupita. And I wonder if I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, because that sounds I don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more I don't. I don't know if I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that Lupita would agree to that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, find we did, But what about the

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<v Speaker 2>American extent?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no, I do want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Lupita thing. This is what I'm trying to unpack, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Christopher Nolan had to know that casting a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman as one of the most legendarily beautiful women of

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<v Speaker 1>ancient Greek mythology, the most legendarily beautiful woman of Greek mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. Well, that's what I mean. There is mythology,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no ob history. And uh, yeah, So he had

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<v Speaker 1>to know in the times that we live in, with

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of chuds that we have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>all day, every day, and the rise of racism and

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<v Speaker 1>misogyny and all the other crap we're dealing with, he

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<v Speaker 1>had to have known, and I feel like Lupita had

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<v Speaker 1>to have known that this casting was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>met with outcry right now, as as is the case

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<v Speaker 1>with these sorts of uh, you know, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>Traditionally these are called color blind castings, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you cast someone that doesn't matter what race they are,

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<v Speaker 1>because etcetera. Helena Troy is not a real figure. She's

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<v Speaker 1>not a real person. She was never a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a story, it's a mythology. And in that instance,

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<v Speaker 1>you I obviously I have not read the original, you know, odesty,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not read it in the original language, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how she's described. Is she described as

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<v Speaker 1>having white skin and blonde hair? I kind of doubt it.

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<v Speaker 1>These were not the beauty ideals of the Bronze Age.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's done anything to violate the text

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<v Speaker 1>by having her, by casting her.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very different if you if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a movie, like I've mentioned to you, like in a

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<v Speaker 2>people with an American accent, you know that lapte. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm talking about or Asian people, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>a small Island in Scotland. I mean, I sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>have to stick to a certain you know, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know type, but in this case, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>could go in anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And really what this comes down to, and let's just

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<v Speaker 1>unpack that. The of course, the outcry against her casting

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from a lot of right wing people, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Manisphere people, and a lot of this is

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<v Speaker 1>being led by the man himself, Elon Musk on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>He really led the charge about this being like white

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<v Speaker 1>erasure or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing here is, I'm not suggesting that there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything about this that isn't her horrifying racism, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think, I do think this gets to the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of who gets to claim the mantle of beautiful in

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<v Speaker 1>our culture, and this is one of the most glaring

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<v Speaker 1>example who was allowed to be called beautiful and who isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Lupitao is un mistakably beautiful Fortunes and anybody who tries

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<v Speaker 1>to argue otherwise is clearly arguing from a very white centric,

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<v Speaker 1>racist perspective. What are your thoughts about beauty about race?

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<v Speaker 2>It's always been that way, I mean always, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the skinny white blonde person wins always. So I

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<v Speaker 2>when they cast her, I was like, all right, this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be you know, trouble for people are going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to have known. Yes, I have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Nolan and Lupedin understood what was called.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if she she's not dumb, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she knows what she was about to face, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of everything, So maybe that's what she wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars for God's So. I mean, we've we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this a lot, especially with with comedy, not comedy movies

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<v Speaker 2>like the there's big superhero movies, you know, we seebusters,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see that a lot people are going after

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<v Speaker 2>women in general.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who are going after them are not watching

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<v Speaker 1>small art films. The only thing they watch are Marvel movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know exactly, and the Odyssey is right up.

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<v Speaker 2>Has she made any statement I couldn't find.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that she has. If she's well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she's not to me to say how she

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<v Speaker 1>should handle it, but I hope she she shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think she should do anything. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>she can survive this because you know, she'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll be fine, I hope so, because you need to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we in general, collective speaking, of course, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>not accept that kind of thing. You know, I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to fight that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's I'm gonna throw a lit match into this.

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<v Speaker 1>Just something to think about. What if he had cast

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<v Speaker 1>a light skinned black women with long, straight hair, you know, so,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, a black woman who embodied basically white

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<v Speaker 1>beauty ideals, and there are plenty of actresses who are

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Do you think there would have been this

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<v Speaker 1>because the thing is Lupida is dark sor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think I think it would matter. If

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<v Speaker 2>if it wouldn't matter, they would go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I think they would go

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<v Speaker 2>after anybody who wasn't white.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Don't get me wrong. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. I mean, I'm not suggesting that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Lupita isn't pretty enough or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were expecting them to cast like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, some Moneia Taylor Joy or whatever. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone that, someone like that, someone like that and hadway,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, somebody like that, and it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 2>you with Asian Latin black, they would go after what.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that came out with this trail or

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<v Speaker 1>was this Everyone going was very much up in arms

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<v Speaker 1>over the fact that there was not a consistent accent

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<v Speaker 1>across the board for these characters, and that not only

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<v Speaker 1>did Nolan not force the Americans to speak in a

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<v Speaker 1>British accent, which is essentially how all films set in

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<v Speaker 1>in the ancient world always give the characters British accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's time to change it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he not only didn't ask the Americans to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had Robert Pattinson speaking in an American accent and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Holland I believe so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think anybody has a British accent. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure I have to go back on life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've seen versions that they all they do,

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<v Speaker 2>in some movies, you know, I've watched movies where they

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<v Speaker 2>have like British accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean the Star Wars films are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>famously it is that all the Empire people have British

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<v Speaker 1>and that actually made a lot of sense and it

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<v Speaker 1>actually worked. Game of Thrones, there was a collect everybody

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no Americans in that in the casting, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone had an Australian accent or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But there were a range of accents in that.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it was a bit and I didn't pick

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<v Speaker 1>I faked when I realized what they had done. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rings of Power, the Token adaptation where all everybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody else in it has a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>English received pronunciation accent. And all of the Hobbits, which

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<v Speaker 1>I should explain if you haven't seen the show, this

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<v Speaker 1>is thousands of years before the Lord of the Rings.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Hobbits are basically like these rural gypsy I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't use the term gypsy, but you know wanderers who

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<v Speaker 1>there's like sticks in their hair and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pre writing and all that there there, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty low version of the Hobbits, and they all have

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<v Speaker 1>their hair, I know, the ones that have Irish accents.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think this is a great you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great decision to make them always

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<v Speaker 2>speak uh, I don't know, speak with an American accent,

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<v Speaker 1>Think if you break that tradition, to break that tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>And by doing that, maybe you raking the tradition that

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<v Speaker 2>also that these people have to be white, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Are feeding into that hole.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>You're centric.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a problem when he when he sucks up

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<v Speaker 2>through the story like Lady Gago with with it speaking

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I'll say? I mean, she was an

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<v Speaker 2>You see that with interpreters, like when you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>And they get an interpreter, we get interpreted.

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<v Speaker 2>With an accent. So that okay, Well then then it's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, it's legit here because the interpreter has an excent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, that is so.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories from that is very small mind. People who had

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone with my accent translating someone speaking Spanish, there

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<v Speaker 2>This is pathetic, so small minded. So someone cannot have

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<v Speaker 1>Connected to that is Pattinson has the line and the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about missing your daddy and he uses the word

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<v Speaker 1>daddy there quick to me again, this goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I don't know what the ancient Greek word

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<v Speaker 1>he could have said father, but then you would not

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<v Speaker 1>Father would have not had that tone. Daddy has that tone.

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<v Speaker 2>I think as long as it is consistent. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think slang is a good idea, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea in a setting like that, But conversational

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first century English, right, that actually makes the most

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<v Speaker 2>American English English people come off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just dumb. Yeah, all right, have we beaten

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<v Speaker 1>some TikTok stuff. We'll be right back. We're back, and

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<v Speaker 1>Lorenzo is going to tell us what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Two topics that I think are interesting. The first

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<v Speaker 2>one is that apparently Candell Jenner is dating Jacob Elordi, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I think nobody in that family dates anyone who isn't

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<v Speaker 1>super famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently she signed another another Kardashian sign, another contract with

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<v Speaker 2>a famous actor or something. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they pull all the guys fight.

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<v Speaker 2>It interesting. The thing is that I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>used to blame them more than I blame them, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're just fame whrror as much the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, Yes, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we saw that happening with Tim Michella May and

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jacob earlrd is the same thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch a lot of TikTok videos and the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I like to watch them is because you actually

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<v Speaker 2>see them in action talk and giving interviews, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's better than just read what they said because you

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<v Speaker 2>can sort of react to how they react to the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>And lately I've seen that Jacob Elordi is getting more

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<v Speaker 2>and more full of himself, you know, as he.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets nothing at Kardashian. Woman loves more than a man

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<v Speaker 1>who's full of them as he gets wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just find it interesting that the most the

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<v Speaker 2>most hyped up rising actors of the moment, you know, Timo,

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<v Speaker 2>Tay and Jacob, the most overrated actors at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>are dating Kardashian. I just find that funny. And then

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<v Speaker 2>everyone is talking about how gorgeous here together and the

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<v Speaker 2>power couple blah blah blah, and I you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just find it funny that that can't you date somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else talking about the Kardisian And these guys are clearly

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<v Speaker 2>looking because if you go and you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five TikTok with the biggest account on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five, all the Kardashians are on the list,

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<v Speaker 2>all of them, right except the mother, but all the

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<v Speaker 2>ladies are there. So these people have a huge folly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't not think, I mean that these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are going after that, they're going up, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>they get photographed a lot, they get talked about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think think they're going for that. I mean, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're beautiful women, so yes, they're dating beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>women women. But at the same time, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a little more than just dating someone. I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a whole package.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're dating a member of that family, there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be some strategic, uh thinking involved in it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the timidity thing has been going on for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>These are real relationships. I don't think that these are

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<v Speaker 1>things that they're faking for the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get yeah, I don't know, you don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think someone like Timothy shalame and for that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Elordi, both of whom who have been Oscar nominee,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they need to enter into fake romances

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<v Speaker 1>for the cameras. I really don't think they. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're young guys. These are hot young girls. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>all famous. They all like being famous, they all like

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<v Speaker 1>being And I don't know about Jacob Elordi, but Timothy

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<v Speaker 1>Shalomey loves being famous. Oh yeah, loves being photo, loves

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<v Speaker 1>being the center of attention. So similarly, like with Kim

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<v Speaker 1>going all the way back to Kanye, she she broked

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<v Speaker 1>a man who wanted that level of attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she also wanted acceptance, and he was accepted.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is also a level of from the man's perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I bagged a Kardashian. Oh yeah, there's very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Bags like the new version of like I'm dating a

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<v Speaker 2>model basically yeah, well he is dating a model.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, whatever. I don't I mean, I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>for first I just think it's the lord all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Timothy, that was a real thing. The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>everyone said the Kanye thing was a fake thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a real marriage. I had several kids together.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, from my perspective watch watching all

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<v Speaker 2>these videos and TikTok, I was shocked by Timo Tishella.

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<v Speaker 2>When he started dating Kylie. I was not expected.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought he was some like artsy New York intellectually

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<v Speaker 1>more like all of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But then when it you know, it's not confirmed, confirmed yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they started talking about these two together Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and Candle, I was like, ah, makes

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, it makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are they They're they're what's what's the TikTok angle?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they saying?

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<v Speaker 2>They're just just oh my god, run away from her,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you can do better. You know, they always

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<v Speaker 2>think they can do better. But no, these they are

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<v Speaker 2>just as bad as they are in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>They they're very famous, very wealthy women, and it's perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>understandable why. And they're hot. I'm not gonna they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're young, hot, and they're all hot, and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's they're going to attract. And they almost all exclusively

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<v Speaker 1>date celebrity men and not just celebrity men, but very

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<v Speaker 1>famous celebrity men. They do not do B list story, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, But because they can do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, it's it's sort of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it pleases and and everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And anyway, the second one is that uh, Harry Styles,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all mad at him his fans. The thing but

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<v Speaker 2>Harrick Start's very funny is that he has the same

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<v Speaker 2>fan base, like huge enormous fan base like Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of the same reacting when reaction when

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<v Speaker 2>you read about him and the comments. He's out promoting

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<v Speaker 2>his new album I Believe, and then he's doing a show.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing his tour of the Together Together, which is

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<v Speaker 2>ironic the title Together Together, because you can't barely see

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<v Speaker 2>the guy on stage. But they started because the tickets

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<v Speaker 2>were too expensive. They were all complaining that his tickets

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<v Speaker 2>were way crazy expensive, and then they went to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>He started his tour in Amsterdam, I believe, and they

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<v Speaker 2>can't see anything. People bought VIP tickets paid I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>like three fifty euros, which is insane for a ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how these people can afford it. But anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you go and look at the pictures, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge stadium and also a huge like uh stage

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<v Speaker 2>that he literally runs like a marathon because it's so big.

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<v Speaker 2>And people were complaining that they bought the VIP floor

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<v Speaker 2>tickets and they could see him, they couldn't see him.

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<v Speaker 2>They you know, they didn't even know where he was.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to look up the screen and to see

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<v Speaker 2>where he was running, and I think and so everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was complaining. But the complaint got so bad that that

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<v Speaker 2>they they actually, you know, his PR team had to

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<v Speaker 2>put a statement out there and say that they're changing

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<v Speaker 2>the format because it's really really bad. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the stage, uh, some parts has like bridges and

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<v Speaker 2>he like, so I'm urging you to go online and look,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why the tickets are so fucking so huge that

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<v Speaker 2>all you see is a little dot running you can't

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<v Speaker 2>even you don't even know who that is. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that people were saying, it's not like Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Swift Swift that she had all these people, like, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty sixty people on stage dancing and singing with her.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pretty much most of the time by himself. He

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<v Speaker 2>does have a few people every now and then, but

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time he's just alone with a microphone

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<v Speaker 2>and the side of the stage is insane with bridges

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<v Speaker 2>that he goes up and down and he runs around.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I think these things are getting crazy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Beyonce is another one with cars and airplanes or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the hell you know on stage with her. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that you should go back to just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the single with a microphone on stage, because

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do that because you keep selling tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>there we're talking about thousands and thousands of tickets here,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to show these people something.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you know, you have to have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>spectacle to justify.

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<v Speaker 2>To justify the size of the stage number one, and

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<v Speaker 2>the front of the tickets and everything. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was interesting, and he keeps seeing that more

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<v Speaker 2>and more and more. And when you have someone doing

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<v Speaker 2>so successfully like Taylor Swift, then you know everybody wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do the same, but you know they don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do it in a way that can

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<v Speaker 2>justify three hundred and fifty years a ticket. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen videos people at the VIP section paying three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty years. You can't see a thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't see him. You could not see him anyway. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they're angry about his fans, particularly because you

420
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<v Speaker 2>you know, fans always defend these people. But no, they're

421
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<v Speaker 2>they're mad too. So we'll see. I'm curious to see

422
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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to do about the stage.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have no thoughts because I have I know,

424
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<v Speaker 1>I have not been to a stadium concert in a

425
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<v Speaker 1>very long time. But yeah, I see puttie from these

426
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<v Speaker 1>concerts and I'm like, what what I mean, why would

427
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<v Speaker 1>you pay? Like, just go watch it at home, watch

428
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<v Speaker 1>the video at home.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I've seen people with the fans, obviously defanning them, saying

430
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<v Speaker 2>that were we there to have a good time? Whither

431
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<v Speaker 2>we are friends? I was like, all right, just stay

432
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<v Speaker 2>home and put on put on the record, you know,

433
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<v Speaker 2>put on the you know the track, and dance at

434
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<v Speaker 2>home with your friends. But anyway, I don't know, but

435
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<v Speaker 2>I guess you want to be there. You want to

436
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<v Speaker 2>pay three hundred and fifty years, Well power to you.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, I think it's too quick to go

438
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<v Speaker 1>to a break, So before we do that, I do

439
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<v Speaker 1>want to just give a quick shout out to uh,

440
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<v Speaker 1>it's Colbert's last night, I know, and it's been a

441
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<v Speaker 1>sad thing watching him go. I think I understand why

442
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:29.240
<v Speaker 1>this sendoff is so elaborate. All of his celebrity friends

443
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<v Speaker 1>are coming out and making a big deal in all

444
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<v Speaker 1>of this other stuff, and also because he is, in

445
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.839
<v Speaker 1>the minds of so many, including myself, was unfairly fired

446
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<v Speaker 1>from his job for political reasons, so that's why everyone's

447
00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>coming out. But I do think we're I mean, it's

448
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<v Speaker 1>a good thing it's ending, because it's it's gotten to

449
00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:51.319
<v Speaker 1>the point of a little bit of overkill, like people

450
00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>coming out and just singing these cheerful goodbyes to him

451
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and everything. And you know, it's not Johnny Carson after

452
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<v Speaker 1>thirty years, you know what I mean, It's not. It's

453
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>not that level of even I like Colbert, I do,

454
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and his leaving is tragic and politically it's infuriating, but

455
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he was never a cultural institution the way that and

456
00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the way everyone's acting right now. It's like, I

457
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.279
<v Speaker 1>get it, they want to give him a big send off,

458
00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 1>but he was one of four hosts in a very

459
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<v Speaker 1>dwindling late night market and many people think he was

460
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<v Speaker 1>the best. It's not really for me to say because

461
00:24:28.400 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch Late Night all that much, but I think.

462
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's how it was, why it was done,

463
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<v Speaker 2>you know why he right.

464
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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's getting a little on the obnoxiy

465
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<v Speaker 1>right side.

466
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<v Speaker 2>And I and I appreciate people coming out and say something,

467
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<v Speaker 2>making a statement because when you do as a celebrity

468
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<v Speaker 2>of someone famous, and it once again it's out there

469
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<v Speaker 2>for people to be reminded why he was fired. At

470
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<v Speaker 2>the same time, the man has been doing this for

471
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<v Speaker 2>what twenty years.

472
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<v Speaker 1>I believe, right, not even mean on CBS now like

473
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<v Speaker 1>the two Colbert Report, any right of that.

474
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<v Speaker 2>He's a zillionaire. He has more money than he'll be

475
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 2>so he'll be fine, and he's probably gonna start his

476
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 2>own YouTube zone now.

477
00:25:03.839 --> 00:25:06.039
<v Speaker 1>I think he has a bunch of different things lined up, right.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

479
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<v Speaker 1>I like Pulbert. I'm not suggesting he doesn't deserve his accolades,

480
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.519
<v Speaker 1>but I do think the sort of weepy, overwrought goodbyes

481
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 1>are starting to get to be a bit much, that's all.

482
00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's time to it's time to go. It's

483
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>just time to go.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I understand why it's done, I understand, and as

485
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<v Speaker 2>I said, because people just pay attention when he's out

486
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<v Speaker 2>there right in front of them. So uh so if

487
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 2>celebrities are doing that, I think it's always a reminder

488
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>again and again and again why he was fired. And

489
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<v Speaker 2>I think that point needs to be you know, uh,

490
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<v Speaker 2>people need to need to be reminded why he was fired.

491
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<v Speaker 1>I agree. All right, now we'll go to a break, yes,

492
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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be right back to chat about a few

493
00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.759
<v Speaker 1>more things than our pod pory. We're back, and now

494
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<v Speaker 1>we're going to check in on the little scandal, the

495
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<v Speaker 1>little Disney scandal surrounding the Mandalorian.

496
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that on the Less podcast about you know,

497
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.920
<v Speaker 2>fan things now go ahead.

498
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's not a big story, but I think

499
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of latched onto it because it's indicative of

500
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 1>such a long trend in the Hollywood promotions. So the

501
00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Mandalorian and Grogu, the Star Wars spin offs movie starring

502
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Pedro Pescal has opened, and all indications are that it's

503
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<v Speaker 1>going to be like the worst performing Star Wars movie. Really, yeah, Oh,

504
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants this. The show has has just plummeted in quality.

505
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.079
<v Speaker 1>There was too much he has had not the best

506
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>luck in his movie. I mean, I know, Fantastic Four

507
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>did okay, but it didn't do Crazy okay. Oh that

508
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 1>sucks for him, and this is probably not going to

509
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>do well and possibly because of that reason. Disney stage

510
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<v Speaker 1>this thing at Disneyland, as you know, it was for

511
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 1>social media. Essentially, a bunch of people were going were

512
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 1>in line to get on the Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run

513
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 1>ride and someone came out in a Mandalorian costume and

514
00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>took off his helmet and it was Pedro Pascal and

515
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:16.319
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, pictures and crying and all this other stuff.

516
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it was billed as you know, Pedro

517
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Pascal Surprise as Star Wars fans. But everybody there was

518
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like an influencer of some form, some sort of Star

519
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Wars on the stage, of which there are a lot.

520
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what.

521
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>There's money to be made there.

522
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I see that happening a lot on TikTok. I mean,

523
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>all the influencers on TikTok get invited to the red carpet.

524
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah, the critics don't, but influencers do.

525
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 2>The Devil Wears product, for example, had several mini mini

526
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>fan events and it was all like, these people get invited, it's.

527
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Fine, but this sort of stage surprise thing they do

528
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 1>this is what blew up. I'm sorry, guys, it's the same.

529
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Thing at celebrity showing up to somebody's wedding as a

530
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.759
<v Speaker 2>surprise thing. That to me that he's so selfish, selfish.

531
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Theday it was doing the wedding Chapel in Vegas and

532
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I mean, I'm sure people loved it,

533
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>but I would be annoyed my wedding turned into a movie.

534
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I swip show up at my wedding. I would send

535
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 2>her out, go thank you, Taylor, But no, no, it's

536
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>my day, girl, not yours. So I kind of see

537
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 2>the same thing here. I guess people would again there

538
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>they rely on their I don't know, celebrity status.

539
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's oh, well, I'm going to need to

540
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.559
<v Speaker 1>show up this story. Here is the way critics, actual

541
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>legitimate critics, are being forced out of these conversations, forced

542
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>out of these commercial events. And you're bringing in people

543
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>who by their nature will never say anything bad exactly

544
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because because they're influencers, because they're fans. Yes, and you know,

545
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I I'm an independent blogger, and I think a lot

546
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 1>of people think that that's somehow akin to being an influencer,

547
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 1>but it actually isn't. I am not selling proper. I'm

548
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>selling my own work basically. I mean, I sell products too,

549
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>but that's you know, you got to do that to

550
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>make money.

551
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>But I try to be careful because you know, we

552
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>are bloggers, and there was a time when they invited

553
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>bloggers to everything anything.

554
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>But we took that shit seriously.

555
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Well that's us, and a lot of people did too.

556
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can only speak for myself. At the

557
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>time when we got invited, you got invited to something

558
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>that you did, which means that we cover red carpet

559
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and a TV show, so we got invited to that. Nowadays,

560
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 2>you just have to have a big number of followers.

561
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter what you do, you get invited to these things.

562
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I've seen people on TikTok. I'm not gonna name names.

563
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>These people do something completely different. They live in a

564
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 2>different country or whatever, and their TikTok account is all

565
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>about traveling or Paris or whatever, and now they're getting

566
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>invited to all these red carpet events because of the

567
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.960
<v Speaker 2>numbers they have. So that's the problem, and as you mentioned,

568
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:57.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a very smart move because none of these people

569
00:29:57.960 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>are going to bed mouth anything.

570
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Now, that's the whole I idea. And I mean when

571
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we first started those blockers and we were invited to

572
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>places I no one ever said you're not allowed to

573
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>say anything bad, but it was kind of the understanding,

574
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.279
<v Speaker 1>like we're inviting you, so just be on your best behavior.

575
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of why we don't really do events

576
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>like that anymore, because the expectation is what we have

577
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to be nice or we'll never get invited back, and

578
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just death.

579
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 2>For I don't care about that anymore.

580
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 3>One of the.

581
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Reasons I firmly last year or the year before, I

582
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was at a social event with people that basically I

583
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>most of whom I had not seen since I was

584
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a teenager. We were part of the same teenager crowd

585
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>social event, and someone came up to me and said,

586
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I heard you're an influencer now, and I got bent

587
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the fuck out of shape and I was like, I

588
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>am not. I am a writer. Here's the thing. Influencers

589
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>are selling their influence. They're selling their ability to generate

590
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 1>an audience and to tell them what to buy, what

591
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 1>to think. Where to go, and that has now been

592
00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That is the difference. And I remember sometimes like getting

593
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.720
<v Speaker 1>dismissive comments in our own comments section where people would

594
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>refer to us as influencers, and when I came back

595
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and said we're not influencers, they would get all, excuse me.

596
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 1>But there is a difference.

597
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>There is a major difference, and I think it's a

598
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 2>very misused word to begin with it.

599
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It is a misused one.

600
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.759
<v Speaker 2>I hate the term yeah, to be honest, because it's

601
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>not about what you do, what you came up with

602
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>as an idea for for what you for a channel,

603
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>for for a TikTok channel or YouTube channel. No, it's

604
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it's just because you have the numbers, no matter what

605
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>you do. Doesn't matter what you do, Yeah, you have

606
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the numbers, So we're gonna send you soap, and you're

607
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna talk about it, you know what I mean.

608
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean the worst sorts of influencers are the ones

609
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that don't really have any principles or preferences. Although don't

610
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it's constantly for sale, yes, yes, but whatever. There are

611
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>good influencers. It's not an evil position to be in.

612
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And I don't even think I would badmount these Star

613
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Wars fans. But I think it's shitty to do these

614
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 1>posts like go ahead and just have a like you

615
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the fan events or Devilwarre's product. That

616
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't bother me because they're literally labeled this fan event.

617
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I would go, of course, I come, but this sort

618
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 1>of staged oh surprise. No, that's that's where you're getting into.

619
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was the backlash, Like you're getting

620
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 1>into not being honest with your audience about what sort

621
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 1>of promotional work you're doing.

622
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>One thing, if you had showed up to real people there, right, attity.

623
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>They've done that in the past. Yeah. I remember Chadwick

624
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Boseman showed up during Black Panther and he surprised a

625
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people, and I think it was on the

626
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Tonight Show at the time. They do these things. That's fine,

627
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<v Speaker 1>but Orchestra tell me, yeah, you surprised a bunch of

628
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 1>random fans when it's quite clear you surprised people who

629
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>have probably a million followers on social media.

630
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<v Speaker 2>Right, and they're gonna post videos about it, and I'm

631
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, oh my god, I was whatever, and you

632
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 2>know they're not honest about it, and they they yeah,

633
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just crazy. Again goes back to what I said,

634
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 2>it's exhausting to watch or read anything today because you're like,

635
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>it is Israel.

636
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

637
00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like always.

638
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'll tell you what if it's coming from Telo,

639
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it's real, it's real, it's real. It's our real opinions

640
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that we really typed out or wrote out or thought

641
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>off ourselves. No, Ai, I know nothing. So you're always

642
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 1>going to get the real ship with Tilo. That should

643
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>be our tagline, the real Ship whenever we're whenever we

644
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 1>travel uh to another country, I always we all love

645
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>it was one of the things I will I love

646
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to do, like if we're in a city like Paris

647
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>or Lisbon or something like that, is to just sort

648
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>of wander off into an area where it's away from tourists.

649
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>And we were. It was in Lisbon the first time

650
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I used the term, where we were in this alleyway

651
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>going up very steep. We were going somewhere, but we

652
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 1>have found ourselves off the beaten path. And it wasn't

653
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.319
<v Speaker 1>a rough neighborhood, but it was. It was a residential

654
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:53.119
<v Speaker 1>one and an urban one, so there was graffiti and

655
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 1>there was laundry, hanging out the windows, and I kept

656
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 1>taking all these pictures and I'm like, I know, I know,

657
00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not tourist stuff, but this is the real ship.

658
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 1>This is I love graffiti and other countries. And I

659
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.559
<v Speaker 1>bet you, I bet your wings of desires? Why I

660
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>bet you. That's that's why I love it. Anyway, moving on,

661
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we actually have one one more topic. Okay, it's an

662
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>easy one, and we're just going out the door with this.

663
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Who should be the next change?

664
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're finally auditioning people. I think that's what they say.

665
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not in love with any of the people

666
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 1>on the list. I mean, they're fine, but I'm like, Okay,

667
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of like square jowed white guy.

668
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think, but didn't we have a conversation like that.

669
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Is there some specific language language about what the character

670
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>needs to be? Is he supposed to be British white whatever?

671
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I believe? I mean, he does have to be British,

672
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 1>uh huh. And he's described in the books. In fact,

673
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's I think, no, I know he's described

674
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>in the books because I know when Daniel Craig was cast,

675
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 1>there was a big to do about him being blonde

676
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and that is not how described in the books.

677
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

678
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Aside from that, I think he's referred to as having

679
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>dark hair. I think, given the times, he would not

680
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 1>have been referred to as white, because the assumption is

681
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>every character in a book is white until you tell

682
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>them otherwise.

683
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I haven't no problemly if they picked someone who isn't white.

684
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, given the racial makeup and the colonial history

685
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 1>of Great Britain, I think it would be a really

686
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 1>good idea to have someone like Henry Golding or Dev

687
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Patel or Riz Ahmed, any of those those men would

688
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 1>make great bonds. I don't think you just cast when

689
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you talk about a diverse bond. To me, and I'm

690
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.679
<v Speaker 1>an American, I understand that. You know I'm speaking as

691
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>an outsider. To me, it should be reflective of British history,

692
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>British colonial history, and obviously that doesn't leave black actors

693
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>out of the conversation. But I do think it would

694
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 1>be more powerful to have, say a Pakistani actor or

695
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 1>a Chinese actor. I'm not arguing against the black actor,

696
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>but I never thought Idris Elbow was right for the part.

697
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 1>They talked about him for years and I was like,

698
00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it has nothing to do with his race.

699
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 1>That is, there are very swave looking black factors, right,

700
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not who Idriss is. He's sexy, he's powerful, he's aggressive.

701
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.519
<v Speaker 1>He just did not say Bond to me. He also

702
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>was famously, at least among our set, he doesn't like

703
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>to get dressed up. He's not a very right stylish man.

704
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>And again it's like, wow, you I never thought he

705
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>was right for the part.

706
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I know. I don't think so, because, as

707
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>you said, I think it has to be someone stylish,

708
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, with with.

709
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>They're going for someone. They said they want an under thirty,

710
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>which actually makes sense because they probably want him to

711
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 1>do five movies.

712
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my pigs are Aaron Taylor Johnson, Eron Taylor Johnson

713
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:50.599
<v Speaker 2>and Aaron Taylor.

714
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I And maybe I don't think he's got it either.

715
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 2>I know he's getting old.

716
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I think he's he's getting a little old. Number one.

717
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>He's got that sort of uh, I'm just gonna say

718
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he's got that sort of work, working class vibe to him.

719
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And I really don't think that's what they're looking for

720
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.159
<v Speaker 1>with Bond. You know, who I think would be great. Okay,

721
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>So the names that are out there are like Callum

722
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Turner and he is the number one.

723
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>He would be perfect, he'd be okay, yeah, right, he'd

724
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>be like, come on, he's gorgeous, but he's okay looking,

725
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 3>but I mean he is gorgeous, square John White guy,

726
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:25.719
<v Speaker 3>like all right, it's just not you know who I

727
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.480
<v Speaker 3>think of the name.

728
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 1>And they're also talking Henry Cavill too big, what about

729
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Harris Dickenson? Very bland, very fucking bland. Josh O'Connor. Josh

730
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 1>O'Connor would be my pick because he looks good and clothes,

731
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:49.280
<v Speaker 1>he's English, he's young enough, interesting, and he's sexy in

732
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 1>an unconventional way. That's what I want. I think is

733
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want a pretty Bond because we've had pretty bond.

734
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say he's not pretty enough, but

735
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 1>we've had like Daniel Craig was probably the prettiest Bond

736
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>therever was, and maybe maybe next to Sean Connery. It's

737
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 1>always been like elegant, very good looking men like you know,

738
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 1>Pierce Brosnan, and you know, no, let's get someone in

739
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>there who's got a little bit of roughness to him

740
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 1>but still comes off interesting. Because I do think bond

741
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:19.199
<v Speaker 1>does have to be a little bit posh.

742
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I agree, And and Joshakon is very talented, he's a

743
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>great actor.

744
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think he would want to be I mean,

745
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>they would have to offer him a shit ton of

746
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 1>money because he's a rising star. Why would he lock himself.

747
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>It's probably gonna be Callum Turner because he's not a

748
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>big enough name.

749
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I know, but it changed your career, I mean your career.

750
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Craig wanted out of it after three movies. It's

751
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's and he talked about that you can't eat. You

752
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>literally cannot eat, like because you're either wrapping up a

753
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 1>film or doing the promotional work for a film, or

754
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>you're working on the next one. Why and he said

755
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 1>he's like I starved for like ten years.

756
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't see Joshua Kana doing that.

757
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 1>No, naturally, think he wouldn't have to say no.

758
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>But my point is that he doesn't care about things

759
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean, I don't think he cared that

760
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>much about his apperienced That's why Aaron Taylor Johnson could

761
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 2>be the one, because he's too old at this point.

762
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would have to check, but anyway.

763
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just saying, according to what they're looking for,

764
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>they are gonna want at least three films out of

765
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the next James Bond, probably five.

766
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:26.039
<v Speaker 2>He's uh thirty five, he's not too old now, and

767
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>he's coacheous.

768
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>He he's you No, I mean he's gorgeous. My number

769
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.800
<v Speaker 1>one is Josh O'Connor. My number two was Callum Turner

770
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>only because he fits. He wouldn't make a bad James

771
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Pollen is gorgeous. I don't necessary. I don't think Aaron

772
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Johnson is right for it at all.

773
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't think Henry Calvill Callen is actually

774
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:48.480
<v Speaker 2>older thirty six.

775
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 1>So Callum Turner's older. Wow, he looks younger.

776
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>He looks younger. He's so pretty. He's very handsome with

777
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>dal Leap and they look corgeously.

778
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>They are a beautiful couple together anyway, So what are

779
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>your picks?

780
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I say, Aaron Taylor Johnson.

781
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, yeah, I think he's Kalen Turner here. He

782
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 1>is so bland. You have he talk about you?

783
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

784
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

785
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>The other one people were talking about Jacob ALORDI godknew

786
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>number one number one. I really don't think he should

787
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>be Australian like I just and I know George Lasmbee,

788
00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 1>who was an Australian actor played him for one role.

789
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>He's not talented.

790
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I do think they should be English. Whoever plays Green

791
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>should be English. That's me, but I'm not English, so whatever.

792
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I also think he's too tall. I think Jacob Elordi

793
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>is literally too tall to be an action star because

794
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 1>you have to shoot action sequences and he is going

795
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>to be so much bigger than everybody that he's just

796
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>going to dominate them, or that it makes shooting action

797
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>sequences difficult because then you have to sort of obscure

798
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the lead actor is a foot taller

799
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>than everybody else. No, he's not. I don't think he's

800
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a good No, he can't even sit in an aston

801
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Martin likes even get into those little Bond He's six five. Yeah,

802
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening.

803
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 2>He's too tall and he's not talented.

804
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 1>So how I disagree?

805
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>All right?

806
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Do we have anything else?

807
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 2>No, that's sonxiety. I love the movies. In fact, Netflix

808
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 2>had all the Bond movies. Yeah, the Netflix had all

809
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the old movies and I watched pretty much all of

810
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>them again.

811
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And something you may not know about Lorenzo when this

812
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.320
<v Speaker 1>might surprise you. Number one is that he's a huge

813
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Bond fan and he's seen them all and Western. He's

814
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 1>a huge John Wayne fan.

815
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, don't say this would be crazy.

816
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, everyone's gonna John Way. It was a

817
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>wonderful actor. Politics.

818
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Can we expand this a little more? I love Western's period.

819
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>You thought John Wayne was hot when he was very young?

820
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm gonna get in too much trouble now,

821
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:49.360
<v Speaker 2>trouble when he was young? Yes, I I thought he

822
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>was gorgeous. And I'm a huge fan of Western. Love

823
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 2>love them, love them. If they're playing on Netflix, I

824
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>watch all of them. And yeah, he's he's he was

825
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.119
<v Speaker 2>great person, but he was queen.

826
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have to defend it, all right. Well, anyway,

827
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that's it for this week. We will be back. Actually tomorrow,

828
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.960
<v Speaker 1>we're watching To Die For for the Ritter Kitten Movie Club,

829
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 1>so we'll be back with a short pot on that,

830
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll be back next week after the holiday.

831
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.760
<v Speaker 1>So have a happy Memorial Day all. We'll be American kittens.

832
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with whatever crosses are as across their desks.

833
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Until then, take care of yourselves, love you mean it,

834
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Bye bye bye