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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KPI AM six forty, the Bill Handle Show

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<v Speaker 1>on demand on the iheartradiop and good morning everybody, bill

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<v Speaker 1>Handle Here. It is a Thursday morning, August twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot going on. The big news is the

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<v Speaker 1>politics that we're talking about on the Democratic National Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick word about my podcast. I have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Handleshow podcast that drops again today every Tuesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Bill Handles Show podcast. Also, the website is

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<v Speaker 1>the Bill handleshowpodcast dot com. And today's podcast is How

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy People Are the crazy stuff they buy. We call

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<v Speaker 1>it memorabilia, but man, there's some stuff out there really

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<v Speaker 1>people pay for that. Oh yeah, astronomical numbers and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just anyway. That's the podcast this morning. So last night

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<v Speaker 1>was night three of the DNC. Today is the last day,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of things that are becoming very very apparent,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is this is obviously from the Democratic side,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris being the nominee, Tim Walls being the nominee

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<v Speaker 1>for vice president, and this is breaking down where we

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<v Speaker 1>know now exactly which way the campaign is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on both sides. Side one, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a commination. Side one being the democratic side of the

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<v Speaker 1>political landscape as we go towards the general in November,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is it's going down two paths. One attacking

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<v Speaker 1>former President Trump. I mean there are personal attack with

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doing more personal attacks than the Democratic side on

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a I don't know, you know, personal attacks

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<v Speaker 1>like she's not good looking, she's not smart, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. On the other side, you have the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Trump in that democracy is going to disappear.

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<v Speaker 1>He's self aggrandizing, He thinks about himself, he doesn't care

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<v Speaker 1>about the country all.

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<v Speaker 2>He cares about himself, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>That is where we know it's going to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the personal side. On the policy side, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris is going to we're going to hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more over the next couple of months about policy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, I think both sides are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a problem with policy because policy

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be third. You would think that talking about

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<v Speaker 1>where the country is going and here are the specifics

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing, that's kind of back burner. The big

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<v Speaker 1>theme that the Democrats came out with, and we know

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be huge, is an aspirational theme joy.

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<v Speaker 1>With Barack Obama, it was hope.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the word that was used. With Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>it is joy.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a joyful party, We're having a joyful convention.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have a joyful run for the presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>Our presidency itself will be a joyful president. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different way of doing it. And the argument

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<v Speaker 1>is that on the Trump side, things are horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris becomes president and now it's communist Kamala. They

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<v Speaker 1>finally came into some kind of a name calling that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to stick.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's where he's probably going.

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<v Speaker 1>World War three guarantee to start if Kamala becomes president.

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<v Speaker 1>If Trump becomes president, it is democracy disappearing.

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<v Speaker 2>It is over as far as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the part that is going to be if Kamalia

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the president, what do we get. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get joy. We're going to get joy. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting. It was it's soaring rhetoric, is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing and I hate soaring rhetoric. Maybe I'm too

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<v Speaker 1>much a cidic. I want to know exactly where we're going.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of things that Kamala has come up with,

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<v Speaker 1>I think are going to be brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to hurt her. One, price controls, she's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you cannot do price controls. She's tried.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that lends itself to calling her

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<v Speaker 1>very left wing, not quite a communist, but I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you pretty progressive, far more than Joe Biden would ever

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<v Speaker 1>go back. We go to the convention last night, night

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<v Speaker 1>three of the convention, and just a couple I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it, because I mean obvious, these things go on

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<v Speaker 1>other way of describing it other than propaganda. Video obviously

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<v Speaker 1>putting the nominees and the best light possible, very slick,

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<v Speaker 2>Both sides do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And for example, when a whole segment was done on

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<v Speaker 1>was beat up pretty badly, and he talked about how

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<v Speaker 1>he was betrayed by Donald Trump. And on the screen

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<v Speaker 1>you saw the directionists and they of course picked.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the worst of the worst because it was pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are video of people just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people that were charging the Capital and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was, as he described, he was beat with

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<v Speaker 1>a pole that was flying the American flag and it

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<v Speaker 1>was severely injured. And quotes from Donald Trump, these are heroes,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pardon them. That sort of thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>pretty powerful stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the speech making was concerned, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Oprah Winfrey had a fabulous speech, and she went into.

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<v Speaker 2>History of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Little black girls who in the fifties went into a

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<v Speaker 1>themselves because the whole school was emptied out. The parents

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<v Speaker 1>They were in an empty schoolhouse and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>at these little girls and then talked about Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>being in the second integrated class in Berkeley. Oprah Winfrey

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was extraordinary. Bill Clinton just rambled on and

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<v Speaker 1>on one thing about Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not reading off a teleprompter. He had his

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<v Speaker 1>way too long, I thought. And of course the most

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<v Speaker 1>anticipated speech of all was Tim Walls, who hit exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where I think his campaign for him for the Vice president,

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<v Speaker 1>helping Kamala Harris, and what he is adding to the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign is he was a former teacher and they had

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<v Speaker 1>former students of him talking about mister Walls and how.

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<v Speaker 2>Great he was.

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<v Speaker 1>The team that he coached all came on to the

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<v Speaker 1>stage in jerseys that were way too tight. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pulling at heartstrings. His service is in the National Guard

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<v Speaker 1>all of it now. He ran and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>He came off exactly as he is going to campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>And why Kamala Harris chose him not because of his

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<v Speaker 1>political strength, because of his personality. He is a gregarious,

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<v Speaker 1>aw shucks kind of regular guy who you just like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the kind of person that when you meet him,

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<v Speaker 1>you just like him. There's no bluster, doesn't sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Political at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He just is a regular guy who's done all the

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<v Speaker 1>right things in life. And it was and did you

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<v Speaker 1>notice his son and that when that blew up the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>his kid did not stop crying, did not stop crying

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<v Speaker 1>virtually the entire speech of Tim Walls. It was very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I have not seen the memes. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not seen the reaction from the Republican side, either making.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun of him or leaving it alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they should because it was so human, because it

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<v Speaker 1>pulled at heartstrings. And I thought Tim Walls got an

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<v Speaker 1>a for what he did. He brought it to the

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<v Speaker 1>table and as he said, and we knew that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest stage he has ever had, speaking in

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<v Speaker 1>to millions of people and to thousands of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the arena. He came off he was an aw shucks

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. He is that way, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's not contrived. That's the difference. He is who he is,

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<v Speaker 1>and people love it, and they love him and he

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<v Speaker 1>into the population. That's it, because Kamala Harris is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come off that way. Kamala Harris is coming

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<v Speaker 1>off as strong. She's coming off as this a woman

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<v Speaker 1>can that cannot be bullied. She's out there pushing for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that is you know, whether that's true or not,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether you believe that or not. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>political statement. That is a political view.

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<v Speaker 2>With Tim Walls, it's human first then politics. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>easy to pull off. That is not and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to do it. I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and Bill Clinton had one of the greatest lie lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is regarding Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't look at the lies, look at the eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>In reference to Donald Trump being self agrandizing and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>basically a wonderful person.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't hear that from Tim Wallas. We'll see how

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<v Speaker 2>much of it we hear from Kamala tonight. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>President Barack former President of Barack Obama, in his DNC

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<v Speaker 1>address a couple of nights ago, warned about putting a

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<v Speaker 2>Status and likes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, while he is saying that the Democrats are deploying

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities and influencers to help try to help prepare propel

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris to the presidency. And this is very interesting stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>the connection between politics and celebrities and the connection between

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<v Speaker 1>influencers and celebrities. Now there is an old joke that

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<v Speaker 1>says DC is Hollywood for ugly people. Okay, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 1>And these days the line between the political world and

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrity world has basically vanished, which probably Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is the premier aspect of this. He is the ultimate celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most well known faces in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he comes out of the celebrity world. Ronald Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the acting world, but by the time

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<v Speaker 1>he ran, he was a politician. To this day, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>runs not as a politician. He runs as a populist.

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<v Speaker 1>He is to his followers not a politician. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrity world really.

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<v Speaker 2>Connects, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, last night, just before prime time, the campaign

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<v Speaker 1>sent out a fundraising email from the VEEP star who

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<v Speaker 1>showed up, Julia Lewis Dreyfus, and she says, I know

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<v Speaker 1>a thing or two about Vice President. Of course, that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of her TV shows. And let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris is the real deal. Guess who else was there? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about celebrity Spike Lee, Patti LaBelle, Common, Eva Longoria,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendell Pierce, Sean Austen, don Cheatle.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the Democratic Party invited more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hundred influencers and content creators that, well, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about those. For the most part, it's celebrity world.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama was the first president of the social media age,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was complaining about Internet and how it influences

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<v Speaker 1>political political campaigns. We chase the approval of strangers on

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<v Speaker 1>our phones, We build all manner of walls around ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a real problem with celebrities. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>any bigger celebrities in Barack and Michelle Obama? And they

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<v Speaker 1>certainly don't rely on their celebrity, right. They have an

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<v Speaker 1>innertainment company Oscar, winning documentaries, Netflix movies.

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<v Speaker 2>They cut a deal. Both have written extremely popular memoirs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Clintons have done the same thing. They've taken

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<v Speaker 1>their politics and have become celebrities. Unlike Ronald Reagan, Unlike

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<v Speaker 1>George W.

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<v Speaker 2>Bush.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan got two million dollars a speech, but he

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<v Speaker 2>He's a former president. Same thing with George W.

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<v Speaker 1>The Obamas and the Clintons are celebrities, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, the Obama is putting all of that down.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the other things I want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out is when you talk about celebrity power and now

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet is connected with all that. After that disastrous

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<v Speaker 1>debate performance that Joe Biden had which started, well, actually

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<v Speaker 1>mean he just lost track.

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<v Speaker 2>He was old.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he looked old, he was old, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had in terms of getting rid of Joe Biden, Remember

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<v Speaker 1>he argued, I'm staying, I'm staying, I'm staying. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm pushed down, I get up. That's what I'm about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what really pushed him over the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi certainly hockeym Jeffries, Schumer all were part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot run, you don't have a path to win

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<v Speaker 2>So you know who really tipped the barrel? The straw

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<v Speaker 2>on the camel's tip of the barrel? Iceberg, the monkeys

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<v Speaker 2>right drunk?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I'm just trying to figure out the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>straw that broke the camel's back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was a little that was a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little shtick, all right, fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>But the straw that did break the camel's back on

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<v Speaker 1>this one was George Clooney. George Clooney probably had more influence,

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<v Speaker 2>He wrapped it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because the influence that George George Clooney has not

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<v Speaker 1>only with the public, but also within the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's considered a major donor, not a mega donor.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are donors that out mega Hymn by

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot. But the celebrity of George Clooney joining

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd and saying it is time for Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>he put the country first, which is a crock. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, he would have fought like crazy, but for

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<v Speaker 1>get out to the extent that it was a coup,

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<v Speaker 1>as is argued by the Republicans, it wasn't a coup.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't someone taking it over. It wasn't Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 1>taking it over. It was simply the decision that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to win. That's it unless we get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Joe Biden and forcing him out.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh now uh, there has been a deal finally

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<v Speaker 1>reached between California publishers and Google. What is going on

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<v Speaker 1>with California publishers. I'm talking about little regional local papers.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's buying them and they're not selling any advertising

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<v Speaker 1>because the Internet is it. And the argument has always

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<v Speaker 1>been Google, Google, which publishes this. You go on Google

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<v Speaker 1>source Google.

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<v Speaker 2>Google never paid for this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the advertisers, or at least the papers, the local papers,

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, you're using our stuff and you're not paying

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<v Speaker 1>not making any money anymore, they're going out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>They're using Google so they can write stories. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, the fear of losing local news.

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<v Speaker 2>Outlets, and it's a legitimate fear.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's across the board. Newspapers get to hit too.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the Sunday Times every Sunday. I happen to

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<v Speaker 1>like the La Times. You know. I love getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ink on my fingers and it streaks across my bagels.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just something that I enjoy doing the La Times.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the paper recently? It is a fraction

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<v Speaker 1>of what it used to be a fraction. It used

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<v Speaker 1>to be a phone book, and now it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a local small paper. Unfortunately, advertisers just they're often a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction, that's all. And it's the shame of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not even a shame, the reality of it is. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe your model is just gone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, five ten years from now, you will not

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<v Speaker 1>be listening to radio this program. Well, it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>whether I'm going to broadcast from my old age home.

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<v Speaker 1>But five ten years from now, it's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>terrestrial radio. You're not gonna see those big antennas up

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<v Speaker 1>and I won't be talking to you on radio at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be talking to you on devices and the transmission

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<v Speaker 1>will go on the Internet. It's just changed completely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different world. And have we gotten hit Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Broadcasters can do that. Local papers cannot.

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<v Speaker 1>They need those advertising dollars for their ads, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>And they used to do great, great personal ads. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the crazy sex stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, man looking for kangaroo for an enjoyable afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well now you can't even run those classified.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you go on the Internet and go sex with

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<v Speaker 1>kangaroos and then you join the chat room. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kangaroos? Wallabies or big kangaroos? What kind of sex?

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do that in a classified And of course the

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<v Speaker 2>What department stores you're buying on Amazon? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>The ads from restaurants, right, what restaurants buy on in

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<v Speaker 2>They don't. The point is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>To do this is difficult, so there's been an ongoing

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<v Speaker 1>fight Google in the California publishers have cut a deal

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty million dollars over the next five

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<v Speaker 2>The remainder comes from Google.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, they're looking for private donors, and it's you being

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<v Speaker 1>used to set up a graduate school of journalism at

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<v Speaker 2>Read local regional papers. I also enjoy the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 1>My weekend are is hard newspapers, not hard, but newspapers.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love them for just great reading.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sunday it's the La Times and the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday it's the Wall Street Journal. I mean, don't you

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<v Speaker 1>just love trying to fold over a pa a paper

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<v Speaker 1>and it crinkles in the middle and you can't quite

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<v Speaker 2>That's fun. That is fun. All right.

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