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<v Speaker 1>The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>dare you? All guests on the show do not reflect

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<v Speaker 1>the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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<v Speaker 1>is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and.

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<v Speaker 2>Grow, not what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>He's advised.

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<v Speaker 4>You talk about extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>What is happening and what is up? Hold out your

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<v Speaker 1>Up torches high, you know, look at it from a

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<v Speaker 5>Different, perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey, guys, what is happening and what is up? Hold

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<v Speaker 2>out your glass because we are about to feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the vermeth This Lens podcast asked the place

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<v Speaker 2>where the conversations are always in lightning. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Doc Brown, and here we like to use the allegory

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<v Speaker 2>of the Prometheus lens to take a second look at everything. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you listen on appleis qualify. I know, straight up,

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<v Speaker 2>a day for their addictions. You're without excuse. You can

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<v Speaker 2>get you with ad free listening experience. Well, hey guys, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a good one lined up for you. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a man that I met through a brother, David Paxton.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a writer, a filmmaker, a researcher and explorer.

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<v Speaker 2>And me and this man we'll probably talked close to

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<v Speaker 2>an hour pre roll, so we're kind of kindred spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited to see where this conversation goes

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the cool stories and legends and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy has just dug up here recently because he's

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<v Speaker 2>working on some documentaries that are in the works and

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<v Speaker 2>should be out pretty soon. But I like to welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the show for the first time, first of many,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully Nestor Or say did I get that right?

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<v Speaker 4>You got it right?

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<v Speaker 5>Nice? Yeah, thanks for having me. This is such an honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, man, No, I actually got to see your episode

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<v Speaker 2>one before you took it down because you said that

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<v Speaker 2>you had found one of your sources was a little

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<v Speaker 2>off and you wanted to get it right, so you

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<v Speaker 2>pulled it down. But I'm definitely excited to see some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other stuff, but good quality stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Man. Yeah, So, as you mentioned before, I did end

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<v Speaker 5>up pulling the episode down. Because there was just one

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<v Speaker 5>piece of information there that wasn't completely accurate. So I

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<v Speaker 5>ended up pulling the episode down and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>be revising certain shots and just certain things in the

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<v Speaker 5>episode that I feel like when I first start the

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<v Speaker 5>first time, I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Could probably be a little better.

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<v Speaker 5>But overall, the impression that I got from people who

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<v Speaker 5>saw it, especially people in Puerto Rico, they loved the episode,

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<v Speaker 5>and a lot of them came up to me, They're like, man,

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know this. I didn't know that, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So you had like people who were like lifetime locals

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<v Speaker 5>which I thought was really it was humbling to hear.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think, I think I'm doing some pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>work here, you know, not to sort of prop myself up,

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<v Speaker 5>but in the sense that when I worked on this documentary,

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<v Speaker 5>I really my job.

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<v Speaker 4>Was to.

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<v Speaker 5>Find sort of the source of my roots and sort

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<v Speaker 5>of rediscover my roots. And as I started digging into it,

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<v Speaker 5>I started finding out things about my own culture and

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<v Speaker 5>my own country that just blew my mind. And as

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to see throughout the series. It really connects

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<v Speaker 5>to just the larger creation worldview. So I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 5>for people to see this when it comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, man, before we get too deep in it,

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<v Speaker 2>just give everybody just a little synopsis, a little background.

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<v Speaker 2>Let everybody know who Nasture is, what kind of writing

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<v Speaker 2>you do or what kind of filming you do, likes, interest, expertise,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, are you a Capricorn? Do you like long

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<v Speaker 2>walks in the forest, barefoot? You know? Give everybody a

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So my name is nes Star, I say, and outside

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<v Speaker 5>of that, outside of filmmaking and traveling and writing, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just the regular guy. I love Jesus, I'm married, I

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<v Speaker 5>have a dog. I live in New York City. I

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<v Speaker 5>actually teach special ed children in pre school, so that's

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<v Speaker 5>a really really I love that field and I've been

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<v Speaker 5>doing it for over a decade. When I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 5>that more lighting as a filmmaker, writer, adventure, I just

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<v Speaker 5>finished up an article called Pirates and Voodoo for a

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<v Speaker 5>coffee company called Expedition Society Adventure Coffee, and they have

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<v Speaker 5>a journal section there where you can find the story

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<v Speaker 5>that I wrote on Robert Doci, who was considered the

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<v Speaker 5>last great Pirate of the Caribbean, and also a little

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<v Speaker 5>weird morbid tail concerning a Manning John Stevens and how

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<v Speaker 5>his inerts basically became entoumbed inside a pot. So I

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to spoil too much, but if you're into

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<v Speaker 5>those kind of stories, you know, said to the Caribbean,

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<v Speaker 5>make sure you check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, that's awesome. Well, this recent I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>this recent excursion that that that you went on in

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<v Speaker 2>this documentary that you're working on. What is the name

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<v Speaker 2>of the series and what's the subject matter?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so the name of the series is Myths and

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<v Speaker 5>Legends from Mols On Juan and Bits and Legend from

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<v Speaker 5>most Sonjuan dives deep into four of the most important

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<v Speaker 5>monuments across the old District of San Juan in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're going to take a look a closer look

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<v Speaker 5>at the monuments of La Grita Diablo, the Double Sentry Box.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to be looking into Lativa, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>statue that represents just a great miracle that occurred during

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<v Speaker 5>a siege where San Juan and the whole of Puerto

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<v Speaker 5>Rico were almost taken by the English. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be looking into the legend of Fan Ponce de Leon,

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<v Speaker 5>which we looked at in the first episode and his

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<v Speaker 5>ties to the Fountain of Youth. And then the last

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<v Speaker 5>be La Caapilla Cristo, which is the Chapel of Christ.

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<v Speaker 5>And the story there is really interesting and it involved

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<v Speaker 5>said in the legend that when he fell off the cliff,

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<v Speaker 5>this priest was praying for him and he up surviving

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<v Speaker 5>the fall, and so in order to commemorate that miracle,

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<v Speaker 5>they built a chapel there, and when you go inside,

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<v Speaker 5>they pray for healing, and there's been supposedly a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of miracles that have happened in that area. Now, the

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<v Speaker 5>weird thing about legends is that they tend to have

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of variations through culture, so that one version

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<v Speaker 5>there's other versions that recorded that both the man and

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<v Speaker 5>the horse die. So we're going to be exploring all

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<v Speaker 5>that stuff and not to go into too much spoilers,

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<v Speaker 5>but then I do believe that there is a grander

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<v Speaker 5>connection to the spiritual creation worldview in that. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>basically the gist of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm definitely interested to see what you found in

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<v Speaker 2>some of the cool stories because that's a section of

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<v Speaker 2>the world I've really not looked into much. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a learning experience for me and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some of the listeners too. You are the

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<v Speaker 2>field god on this journey, sir. So wherever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to start us off and take us through, man, go

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll give you a list of options, right Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico is an island that is often overlooked. It

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<v Speaker 5>is considered a lot of people don't know this, but

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<v Speaker 5>it is considered part of the US.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a US territory.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people are trying to convert Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 5>into its own fifty first state. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of significance when it comes to its geo geography, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's a political power in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll say this.

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<v Speaker 5>If you like adventure, you like pirates, you like aliens,

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<v Speaker 5>you like Bigfoot, you like cryptid stuff, you like government conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, what doesn't Puerto Rico have. So there's just

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<v Speaker 5>so much to expe war there. When it comes to

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<v Speaker 5>even ghost if you're into ghost stuff, there's tons of

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<v Speaker 5>ghost stories and supposedly haunted places there. So yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 5>so much we could get into, and even like with

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<v Speaker 5>the whole like Tino stuff, the Tino Indian who first

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<v Speaker 5>inhabited the island, you know, many hundreds thousands of years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing research a little bit and have you

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<v Speaker 5>ever heard of the Nazario Collection. This is really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 5>So the Nazario codec that.

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<v Speaker 2>The river winds Joseph, Yes, Joseph, Hey, he's from down there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his tried the Tiano correct.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm actually reading his book right now as part

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<v Speaker 5>of my research for the documentary. So I do want

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<v Speaker 5>to get into some of that stuff, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>really fascinating. So this connects into a little bit into

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<v Speaker 5>the Nazario collection. So the story goes back sometime during

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<v Speaker 5>the eighteen hundreds. There was a priest named follow the Nazario,

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<v Speaker 5>and he was in touch with a Tino tribe there,

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<v Speaker 5>passing away. The story goes as this woman who was

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<v Speaker 5>about to pass away, she says, Hey, this is like

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<v Speaker 5>collection of like weird rocks like out in the jungle

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<v Speaker 5>that I think you should like take a look at

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<v Speaker 5>before I pass away. He goes out into the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the jungle. He finds his collection of stones, and

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<v Speaker 5>some of these stones are like tablets, some of these

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<v Speaker 5>stones that look like like little idols. But then the

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<v Speaker 5>really strange part is that on these stones there's inscriptions

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<v Speaker 5>of an unknown language. This is really fascinating and till

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<v Speaker 5>this day they haven't been able to decipher what this

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<v Speaker 5>language is. But if you look at it, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people theorize that it could potentially be ancient Hebrew,

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<v Speaker 5>it could be Babylonian. It doesn't look like it's from

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<v Speaker 5>the island. And so there's a theory that these stones

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<v Speaker 5>and the Tinianos are then connected to them the lost

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<v Speaker 5>tribes of Israel, which is I mean, you talk about

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<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico, like this is not something that you would

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<v Speaker 5>ever think you find in the middle of like an

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<v Speaker 5>island in the Caribbean. But yet here we are and

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<v Speaker 5>some of these stones, they've been separated. I think there's

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<v Speaker 5>all's a collection of like eight hundred stones, so that

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<v Speaker 5>they found tons of wild things, eight hundreds of them,

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<v Speaker 5>and some of them been separated in different museums of

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<v Speaker 5>the world, including the Smithsonian Institute. But if you get

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<v Speaker 5>a chance to like look into it is really really

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<v Speaker 5>fascinating stuff. So it's kind of going, you know, just

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<v Speaker 5>to give you an idea of sort of just the

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<v Speaker 5>untapped history of Puerto Rico because you think, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when you go to school, what do you learn, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, Christopher Columbus discovered America in fourteen ninety two.

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<v Speaker 4>May not be fully accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, that's one of those things. It's you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of get the the thirty thousand foot view of

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<v Speaker 5>No, I mean up until just recently, I mean when

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<v Speaker 5>who discovered America's Christopher Columbus. But then when you do

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<v Speaker 5>your own research, Laife Garrison, who's this dude like Viking?

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<v Speaker 4>Like what?

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<v Speaker 5>And then you're finding out there finding all these Viking

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<v Speaker 5>or artifacts as well. So it just makes you think, well,

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<v Speaker 5>if they're finding this kind of stuff in America, then

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<v Speaker 5>what else are they finding in Puerto Rico. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>they've already found those Zara collection and who knows what

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<v Speaker 4>Some people.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually there's this island next to Puerto Rico, culqu and

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<v Speaker 5>treasure over there as well. So that's really interesting. So

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to go digging up for some treasure,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah man.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now with our pre roll talk, we were talking a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about Bigfoot and you said there's even Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>stories down there. Now that blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So Puerto Rico has its own version of the Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 5>And I actually found this out before we started recording.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm in touch with a man down there.

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<v Speaker 4>His name is.

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<v Speaker 5>Horte Martin Miranda. Well, we typically call him hort Martin

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<v Speaker 5>and Horte Martin. If you know Puerto Rican culture, this

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<v Speaker 5>dude is huge, and he was the guy who was

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<v Speaker 5>the main investigator, one of the main investigators.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say he was the main one though.

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<v Speaker 5>Back in the nineties when the whole tripa Gabba craze

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<v Speaker 5>was like at the forefront. He was like making documentaries

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<v Speaker 5>and he was reporting on all the the attacks that

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<v Speaker 5>were happening on farms with animals being drained of blood,

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<v Speaker 5>basically being this figure this you know, dismantled, it's still

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<v Speaker 5>happening now, which is crazy. He actually just reported two

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<v Speaker 5>days ago that there was an attack in the town

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<v Speaker 5>where I'm from, Kaya, which is really crazy. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is the guy you want to talk to when it

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<v Speaker 5>comes to any sort of like UFO stuff. So from

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<v Speaker 5>him I actually learned because I was doing research. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>is there bigfoot like in Puerto Rico. It's really interesting

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<v Speaker 5>because they have their own version of the Bigfoot, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think they call it the Yetioid. The reason they

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<v Speaker 5>call it the yetioid, it's because it's a cross between

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<v Speaker 5>what they believe to be an alien being and a bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 5>So these are you know, bipedal cree matures. They're about

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<v Speaker 5>four to eight feet tall, so they're in varying degrees

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<v Speaker 5>and various various sizes. But they're built like like how

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<v Speaker 5>you would think saw squads would be built. So they

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<v Speaker 5>have red eyes, you know, they're very hairy all over,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's been stories of these things going around and

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<v Speaker 5>attacking very similar to how the Chroopagabta attacks animals, just

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<v Speaker 5>feeding off their blood, you know, disfiguring these animals and

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<v Speaker 5>just leaving them out to dry. The crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 5>that when they do find these animals, they're completely like

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<v Speaker 5>dry of blood. So this is really crazy how this

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<v Speaker 5>is happening. There have been rumors though that potentially these

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<v Speaker 5>could be satanic sacrifices. Puerto Rico is just a huge

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<v Speaker 5>hotbed of Santa ri Palomayombe. It's a big mix of

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of old African pagan worship and religion and

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<v Speaker 5>customs that migrated to Puerto Rico during the slave trade,

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<v Speaker 5>and so a lot of people believe, because these traditions

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<v Speaker 5>are still being practiced and we're carried down from back then,

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<v Speaker 5>that this is what it could potentially be. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you really look into some of these photos and just

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<v Speaker 5>read some of these reports from these eyewitnesses that are

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<v Speaker 5>just finding their livestock dead on their farms.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just really weird stuff, really more good.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff, Yeah, especially to you. I mean, like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a farmer and you know something's attacking your cattle or

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<v Speaker 2>your sheep or whatever the case may be. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's your livelihood, that's how you make your money. So

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<v Speaker 2>not only is it spooky and scary, it's hitting them

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<v Speaker 2>in their wallet, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's very stressful. I mean it's like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>it's really stressful. And then on top of that, you're

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<v Speaker 5>being told, way, this isn't being done by like a

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<v Speaker 5>non human, Like, how do you even explain that to

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<v Speaker 5>your family? How do you even explain that to your neighbors?

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<v Speaker 5>So you have stuff like that happening all over the island.

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<v Speaker 5>So actually, I have a couple of stories that occurred

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<v Speaker 5>to me while there, and a lot of these stories

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<v Speaker 5>are what served as stepping stones, stepping stones as to

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<v Speaker 5>why I am doing what I am. Now, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 5>you one of them. I actually said the story on

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<v Speaker 5>another podcast, but it really it really affected me on

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<v Speaker 5>a personal level because it happened when I was a child,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I remember just sitting down TV one they

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<v Speaker 5>I was five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>This happened back.

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<v Speaker 5>In nineteen ninety I say, nineteen ninety five, nineteen ninety six, and.

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<v Speaker 2>This which is in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>This was in Puerto Rico, right, And another really interesting

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<v Speaker 5>parallel there is that during this time was the height

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<v Speaker 5>of the Troupacabra attacks.

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<v Speaker 4>Very interesting. So I was watching TV in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>This was in the town of kaya and it was

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<v Speaker 5>in a precinct of Kaye, but it was in a

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<v Speaker 5>town called Doita. So I was living in Toita with

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<v Speaker 5>my parents, a nice little pink house.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>We had a yard around and everything, fencing, yard.

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<v Speaker 4>Life was good.

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<v Speaker 5>So one day my mom she would let me watch

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<v Speaker 5>this like Puerto Rican sketch comedy show that would come

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<v Speaker 5>on Wednesday nights at nine o'clock. And that was the

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<v Speaker 5>only time she would allow me to stay up just

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<v Speaker 5>to watch that show at nine o'clock. And as soon

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<v Speaker 5>as that show was over, straight to the side to

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<v Speaker 5>go to bed and go to school you know.

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<v Speaker 4>The next day.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was watching this show and as I'm watching

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<v Speaker 5>the show, in Puerto Rico, we have screen doors because

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<v Speaker 5>it's so hot on the island, so these doors basically

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<v Speaker 5>have screens. That way, you could just let in fresh

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<v Speaker 5>air during the daytime and in the evening just gets

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<v Speaker 5>nice and cool. So the door was on the screen door,

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<v Speaker 5>and we also had a separate door on the inside,

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<v Speaker 5>like the actual door that was open. As I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 5>there watching TV. I don't know why, I felt like

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<v Speaker 5>someone or something was standing on the screen door. You

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<v Speaker 5>just I don't know if you've ever felt that presence

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<v Speaker 5>of something just watching you, someone just spy on him.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sitting with Yeah, your shoulders or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It's like a weight on your shoulder. You just

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<v Speaker 5>feel something looking at you. And so I naturally just

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<v Speaker 5>turned around to see if there was something there. And

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<v Speaker 5>as soon as I turn my head, all I see

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<v Speaker 5>is just a red cape just sort of soosh past

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<v Speaker 5>the screen door.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you, guys, it's no secret that every single day

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<v Speaker 5>The best way I could describe it's just a red cake.

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<v Speaker 5>Mind you, I'm like five years old at this time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, Okay, who is this is a superman?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Around that time, it was like it was Three Kings

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<v Speaker 5>Day that we celebrate in Puerto Rico. Three Kings Day

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<v Speaker 5>is basically Christmas Part two for us, where we celebrate

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<v Speaker 5>the Avenue Christ and the Mages basically visiting Christ to

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<v Speaker 5>celebrate his birth. This happened around January, so I'm thinking, okay, like,

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<v Speaker 5>the Three Kings are here, cool man, they bring me presents.

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<v Speaker 5>I go outside, I look around the yard and there's

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<v Speaker 5>no one. There's nothing there. And that was my first big,

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<v Speaker 5>I would say, paranormal experience on the island of Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 5>And so from then on throughout my childhood, every time

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<v Speaker 5>things would get really difficult in my life, I would

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<v Speaker 5>always recall back to that one moment and it would

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<v Speaker 5>remind me, Man, there's just so much more to this

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<v Speaker 5>life than just the physical. Like there's something there that

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<v Speaker 5>although it could be tangible in another dimension, it's not

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<v Speaker 5>really tangible to us. We can't really understand it. But

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<v Speaker 5>it's just something there.

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<v Speaker 4>So that whole incident.

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<v Speaker 5>Set me on the path that I'm in now and

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<v Speaker 5>trying to understand Puerto Rican culture, Puerto Rican history, and

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<v Speaker 5>how that ties into the grander creation worldview. Well with.

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<v Speaker 2>Like your initiation or first step on the journey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to pick people's brains, like if they wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a book or done a documentary or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>there's usually like a lot Buld moment, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, where you're just like that's what I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do, yeah, you know, or something like that. What

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<v Speaker 2>was your light bulb moment to be like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to dig into my culture's history and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to film this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, So you really hit on something here, because all right,

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<v Speaker 5>so this is another story that actually happened to me

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<v Speaker 5>last year. This was another what I believe to be

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<v Speaker 5>a paranormal encounter. And I've never shared this with anyone

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<v Speaker 5>outside of specific people, but I am willing to shirt

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<v Speaker 5>now because I am ready, and I think it does

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<v Speaker 5>provide important context to why I am doing ITTs and

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<v Speaker 5>Legends from als On Haun. One thing that I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>see in the intro is that I've actually served as

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<v Speaker 5>I actually went on Mississtrip to Guatemala. Guatemala is a

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<v Speaker 5>really interesting country, very like Puerto Rico. Just a lot

425
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<v Speaker 5>of paranormal stuff and people are also very open to

426
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 5>talking about it as well. So the light bulb moment

427
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 5>comes one night last year around February, when I was

428
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.799
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of Guatemala and we were like deep.

429
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:36.559
<v Speaker 5>We were in this Western Highlands is what they call it,

430
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 5>So this is like almost on the other side towards

431
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 5>the Pacific.

432
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<v Speaker 4>So we basically.

433
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<v Speaker 5>Got off off the plane in Guatemala City, we got

434
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:50.319
<v Speaker 5>on a chicken bus and we drove about eight hours

435
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 5>away from the city through the mountains and we landed

436
00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 5>on the village called Nebah, so we were in nearby.

437
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:01.759
<v Speaker 5>We stayed at the mission center that we were at,

438
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:03.559
<v Speaker 5>being hosted by just an amazing couple.

439
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to start their names just to protect

440
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:06.759
<v Speaker 4>them because.

441
00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.119
<v Speaker 5>What I'm about to explain happen on their property. So

442
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.119
<v Speaker 5>we had just come back from a service where we

443
00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 5>were praying for people, and I decided, all right, I'm

444
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:21.440
<v Speaker 5>going to take off my my blazer and just put

445
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.240
<v Speaker 5>on my gear and I'm just going to go off

446
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 5>for our little night hike. And the thing is that

447
00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:30.240
<v Speaker 5>they had a huge they have a huge property in

448
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.960
<v Speaker 5>their land where and they have like little hiking trails

449
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.920
<v Speaker 5>you can go on. There's like a field in the

450
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.200
<v Speaker 5>middle of this property that you could just go up

451
00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:40.440
<v Speaker 5>and you could just look at the night stys night

452
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.279
<v Speaker 5>night sky, and it's beautiful.

453
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 4>You can see all the stars.

454
00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 5>You know. So I decide, all right, I'm just gonna

455
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 5>go out there kind of explore at night, see what's up.

456
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:51.759
<v Speaker 5>You know. It's a beautiful evening. It's not too hot,

457
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:56.200
<v Speaker 5>not too cold. And I had my headlamp on, so

458
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 5>that was like the only light source I had. In

459
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 5>the middle of like there's guadam all in forest. So

460
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.359
<v Speaker 5>as I'm going, I had to walk up a trail

461
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:10.960
<v Speaker 5>man made trail, and then veer past the right, and

462
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:14.119
<v Speaker 5>then once you veer on the right, there's like a villa.

463
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.720
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm making mental notes in my mind, and

464
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.599
<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking, Okay, so if I ever get lost in

465
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 5>the woods, that's going to be like my landmark, the

466
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.720
<v Speaker 5>porch light on that villa. So I keep going and

467
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 5>right before you get to like the section where the

468
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:34.160
<v Speaker 5>forest is at there's actually a fence or barbed wire.

469
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.640
<v Speaker 5>So basically I took the I opened the fence, I

470
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 5>went into the open part of the forest, and I

471
00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:45.200
<v Speaker 5>started just walking around beautiful, just exploring, looking at the

472
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 5>trees at night and just how quiet it was. It

473
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:50.119
<v Speaker 5>was kind of scary, but it was like really exciting

474
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.400
<v Speaker 5>at the same time, just being out there because you

475
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 5>just can't hear it.

476
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.160
<v Speaker 2>That's where I find God Man. Yeah, get me out

477
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 2>in the woods or something like that, and just get

478
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:01.759
<v Speaker 2>me a nature something that makes me just feel really small. Yeah,

479
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, Yeah, that's where I find God Man every time.

480
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 4>Amen.

481
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 5>But I'll tell you on this night, I did not

482
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 5>find God out there. I know he's there. I know

483
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 5>he's omni President. So God was there, but I found

484
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 5>something else, is what I meant to say. So, uh,

485
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm like going around. So I go past the open field,

486
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 5>start walking across, start looking at the stars, and I'm like, man,

487
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 5>that's a really nice night. Let me just keep going.

488
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 5>And as you walk across the field, there's also another

489
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 5>barbedier fence. So I'm thinking, all right, I'm just gonna

490
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 5>just loop around, go past the barbarier fence, get on

491
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.079
<v Speaker 5>the main road, and then come back to the mission

492
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 5>center and just end the night. As I'm going past

493
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 5>the second barbedire fence, I close it behind me, and

494
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 5>as I'm walking up the hill to go into the

495
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 5>main road, i start hearing rustling of leaves and I'm thinking, okay,

496
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm in the middle of Guatama. I'm by myself, people

497
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.200
<v Speaker 5>very little people know I'm out here. I don't know

498
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.440
<v Speaker 5>if maybe this is a dog. I don't know what

499
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:10.759
<v Speaker 5>it is, but it was kind of spooking me a

500
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 5>little bit. So I decide, all right, I don't know

501
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 5>what this is. I think I'm just gonna go back

502
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 5>around the other way where I came back, start heading

503
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 5>back because I don't know what's happening, just to be

504
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.759
<v Speaker 5>on the safe side, you know. And the time that

505
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 5>we were at is you know, at night. It's also

506
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 5>like a lot of drunks and just a drug addicts,

507
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 5>so it wasn't the safest place at night.

508
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:35.640
<v Speaker 4>So I made the white decision to come back.

509
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 5>As I'm coming back, I'm like, whatever this is, whoever

510
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.079
<v Speaker 5>this is, they've probably already seen me because I have

511
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 5>my headlamp on. So I decided to put it on

512
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 5>the red mode. That way, it could just dim the

513
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 5>light a little bit, and I slowly start calling back.

514
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 5>I close the fence behind me, and I start slowly

515
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 5>walking across the field. And at a certain point, as

516
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm making my way back, I decide to put the

517
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 5>headline back onto this regular light because I can't see

518
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 5>where I'm going. Almost twist my leg on a hole

519
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of the field. And as I'm walking

520
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 5>across the field, I don't know how else to explain this,

521
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:25.799
<v Speaker 5>but I hear a growl behind my ear, very ominous growl.

522
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 5>This point, I'm thinking this is an animal. It's just

523
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 5>like some sort of like spirit. I don't know what's happening.

524
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 5>At this point, I just started poking it right now.

525
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 4>As a Christian, yeah, so.

526
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 5>As a Christian, I'm thinking, Look, I wasn't thinking a time. Look,

527
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 5>I have the authority of Christ on me. I could

528
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 5>have just rebuked that. But I'm also human. So at

529
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 5>that point, FEDG just overtook me because it could be

530
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 5>a wild animal, so I just start running and running

531
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 5>and running. At this point, I can't find the second

532
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 5>fence where I came from, so I ended up jumping

533
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 5>over the bar boar fence, and I'm trying to find Okay,

534
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 5>where's the villa with the light source?

535
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 4>Where is it? Where is it? Where is it?

536
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:13.480
<v Speaker 5>I hear another growl and I'm running. Suddenly I see

537
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 5>the villa up ahead, and because I see the porch light,

538
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.119
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, all right, I'm heading the right way.

539
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 5>I just keep running head back to the mission center,

540
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 5>and right there, I go back into my room and

541
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 5>the other guys are looking at me like why is

542
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 5>this guy out of breath? Like what's happening? Like he

543
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 5>go out for like a night jog or whatever. And

544
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 5>I was very open and I told him, look, this

545
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 5>is what ended up happening to me. Guys like I

546
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.200
<v Speaker 5>just I cannot explain it. So I got a little curious.

547
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 5>I you know, my anxiety was hype, but it fell asleep.

548
00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.240
<v Speaker 5>So I got a little curious. A couple of days later,

549
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 5>maybe a day later, I don't remember the timeframe, but

550
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 5>I decided to sort of investigate a little bit, and

551
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I wonder if anyone else around here has

552
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 5>had any weird experiences. So I spoke to one of

553
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 5>my friends and she's like, yeah, you should speak to

554
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.640
<v Speaker 5>this other girlfriend of mine, this other one who's on

555
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 5>the missions trip. She's told me something that she's experienced

556
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:14.759
<v Speaker 5>while she was here.

557
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 4>On the campground.

558
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, okay, So I pulled her over, I speak

559
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 5>to her in private, and she tells I tell her

560
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:24.880
<v Speaker 5>my experience, like, look, this is what I experienced out

561
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:28.240
<v Speaker 5>there when I was out in the field that night.

562
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.200
<v Speaker 5>And she looks at me like she's like, I gotta

563
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.680
<v Speaker 5>tell you something, And I said, okay. She says, the

564
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 5>other night, while I was taking a shower in the villa,

565
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 5>the window from the shower was open, and she heard

566
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 5>a growl, but it was outside of the window. Now,

567
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 5>mind you, she heard this growl outside of the window

568
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 5>spook to her so much that she practically just didn't

569
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 5>even finish her shower. She ran back to her room.

570
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 5>But the interesting part is that this was on a

571
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 5>second floor window, and there's no ledges underneath this window,

572
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 5>so that was really weird. So that's somebody else having

573
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 5>an experience. And then a few days after that, I

574
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 5>was approached by a couple of other ladies that were

575
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 5>on the Mississ trip with us, and they told us, Hey,

576
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 5>were you like hiking out like at five in the

577
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 5>morning this morning. I was like, what, yeah, yeah, yeah,

578
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 5>we were out in the field at five in the morning.

579
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 5>We went to go, you know, pray it and praise

580
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 5>the Lord, and we thought we saw you.

581
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 4>We saw you with your cap.

582
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:37.920
<v Speaker 5>On, just standing in the middle of the field, just

583
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 5>looking up into the sky.

584
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 4>Now I told the story to the Kais.

585
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, guys, when have you ever seen me wake

586
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 5>up at five in the morning and go back out

587
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:55.640
<v Speaker 5>into that field? And that's the encounter that I had.

588
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 5>And so from then on I came back home to

589
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.160
<v Speaker 5>New York and it just peaked this curiosity in me.

590
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, this was really weird. This happened during the

591
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 5>mission strip. Was there a spiritual connection between what we

592
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 5>were doing there? And could this have been maybe some

593
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 5>sort of retribution against maybe whatever principalities were in that area.

594
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 5>I just can't explain it. That's kind of like my

595
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 5>personal theory territorial spirit, right. And then from there, I'm like,

596
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.279
<v Speaker 5>I have to find out what this is. So my

597
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 5>whole life, I've always had these sort of encounters, and

598
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 5>so I decided, all right, the best place to start

599
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 5>at is in my own home country. I wonder if

600
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 5>they have anything similar with territorial spirits or these sort

601
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:53.079
<v Speaker 5>of encounters and stuff like that. And yeah, sure enough,

602
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 5>there's tons of material in that one island. And so

603
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 5>that's where the concept of meds and legends from Alsa

604
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 5>one came from, from that one experience I had last year.

605
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 5>So you're the first person to have been told that story.

606
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 2>So there you go, man, I thank you for sharing

607
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>it with me.

608
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

609
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh, well, when you started looking through these and once

610
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you started, you know, combing through and if you could

611
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 2>pick like one that was I don't know, either just

612
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the craziest, wildest story or like a paradigm shift story.

613
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, is there is there one that really just

614
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.599
<v Speaker 2>like blew your mind?

615
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.719
<v Speaker 5>Between the one I just shared and the one that

616
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 5>happened to me at five years old, it's.

617
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Hardly like the missing legends and stuff that you had

618
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>found of the area.

619
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, well, you know, I think it's all connected.

620
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, it's it's really hard to choose

621
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 5>one one or the other because as I've looked in

622
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico specifically, there's this one thing that I found

623
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 5>which I'm trying to get some consultation on which I

624
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 5>have shown to David and he was pretty blown away

625
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 5>by So I don't want to go too much into

626
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 5>it because it is like a big spoiler, and I

627
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 5>do want to reveal it towards the end of the series.

628
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 5>But I may have found something really really fascinating that

629
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 5>just it really blew me away and really changed my

630
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:36.679
<v Speaker 5>concept of not just the city of San Juan, but

631
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 5>just Puerto Rico and you know as a whole. So

632
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 5>in time you'll get to see that. But from what

633
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 5>I've been doing research on what I've shown David, and

634
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm actually going to be consulting with a lot of

635
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 5>other people, a lot of people don't know about this,

636
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.519
<v Speaker 5>which is really crazy.

637
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's why I was talking about the start of

638
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 2>the show. That's something that I'm ignorant on. I've not

639
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 2>really looked into. But like you said, that that's a

640
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 2>region that is heavily overlooked and it's you know, has

641
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 2>to be right full of supernatural activity and legends and

642
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>lore and like you said, just put the spiritual stuff

643
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>just to the side, but just all the the pirates

644
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>and the stealing of gold and you know, uh, I'm

645
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.119
<v Speaker 2>sure there's plenty of stories of pirates crossing each other

646
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and killing each other and hiding the treasure and died

647
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>before they came back, and their spirits. You know, you

648
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 2>have all those kind of cool stories throughout the world,

649
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>so I'm sure you had found some in your home

650
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 2>country too.

651
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

652
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 5>As I said, Puerto Rico is such a beautiful country,

653
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 5>but it is very underrated and unfortunately there's a lot

654
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 5>of corruption there and there's just a lot of just

655
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.760
<v Speaker 5>not so great infrastructure. To this day, there is a

656
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 5>huge issue with the electrical system, like something.

657
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Could just stick. Yeah.

658
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.920
<v Speaker 5>I was actually in the middle of one of them

659
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 5>when I was filming. Actually, I'm going to show it

660
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 5>off in the second episode where I actually went out

661
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 5>during the middle of this hurricane and I was just shooting,

662
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.960
<v Speaker 5>and I was with a buddy of mine at the time,

663
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 5>and we were just like locked up in the hotel

664
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 5>and something told me, look.

665
00:37:29.840 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 4>We're in Puerto Rico.

666
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't care if there's like asteroids coming. We're going

667
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 5>to enjoy the strip. And I got some work to do.

668
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.039
<v Speaker 5>So I took out my camera, put on my backpack,

669
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 5>put on my my my ring my ring jacket or

670
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 5>how do you call those, you know, the parks right, Yeah,

671
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 5>the ponchos there you go. So I put on my

672
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 5>poncho and we just had it out and sure enough,

673
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 5>I ended up running into probably one of the most

674
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:02.199
<v Speaker 5>fascinating stories I've heard from a local there. So you

675
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.559
<v Speaker 5>will see that in an episode two, actually illustrated by

676
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 5>this really cool artists from Egypt called Huda Amien, So

677
00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 5>you'll kind of get to see that story of what

678
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 5>it is that I discovered during that little excursion that

679
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.639
<v Speaker 5>I took in the middle of the hurricane. And it's

680
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 5>fascinating because they really just set the tone for the

681
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 5>rest of the episode and just to give people backdrop

682
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 5>a little just a little backdrop of what the episode

683
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 5>is going to be about. It's going to be exploring

684
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 5>the spiritual world of Puerto Rico. So we're going to

685
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 5>be diving into Tiana gods, We're going to be diving

686
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 5>into local legends, haunted places. We're going to be looking

687
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 5>into just maybe even your fox stuff and how that

688
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 5>is potentially connected to just significance of Ol San Juan

689
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 5>because there is a spiritual significance to it.

690
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's all interconnected. Well, if you don't care,

691
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I know you had released that first episode, but had

692
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 2>took taken it down. But I recall one of the

693
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>stories was the devil Sentry Box. Yeah, you care to

694
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:14.000
<v Speaker 2>tell that to the listener?

695
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 4>Sure?

696
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.599
<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, that actually that was a really fascinating story

697
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 5>because I would say, that's even another point in my

698
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 5>life that really just set the stretjectory for why I'm

699
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 5>doing the documentary now. When I first heard about the

700
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.280
<v Speaker 5>double sentry Box, I had just come from youth group,

701
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.880
<v Speaker 5>the church youth group. And I know this is gonna

702
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 5>sound really weird, but I would come back from church

703
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 5>youth group on Friday nights and then I would come home.

704
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 5>I would just lay in my bed and I will

705
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 5>turn on the History Channel, and on the History Channel,

706
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you remember this, but they would

707
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 5>give like a little marathon on the show called Haunted History,

708
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 5>and Haunted History would basically visit different cities across America

709
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 5>and it basically just recount like the haunted history of

710
00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:04.519
<v Speaker 5>like certain cities or monuments or just things like that.

711
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.639
<v Speaker 5>So one really late Friday night, I was just laying

712
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.000
<v Speaker 5>in bed, must have been like one two in the morning,

713
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 5>and they had done an episode on Puerto Rico and

714
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I have to watch this, like this is cool.

715
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 4>I wonder what they have.

716
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 5>In Puerto Rico and behold, one of the segments that

717
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 5>they had on that episode was the devil Sentry Box.

718
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 5>This is probably one of my favorite legends from Puerto

719
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.280
<v Speaker 5>Rican lore because it's just really fast.

720
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why. It just captivated me when I

721
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 4>was a kid.

722
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 2>And a century box is basically, for those that don't know,

723
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 2>is like a guard's watch tower.

724
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 5>Right right, Yeah, it is a guard's watch tower. And

725
00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 5>so this guard's watch tower is basically considered the oldest

726
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 5>part of the.

727
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 4>I want to say.

728
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 5>It's called the Castillo Cristoval, which is the Saint Christopher

729
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 5>Fort in Puerto Rico, which I believe it's considered the

730
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 5>largest fort Spanish built fort Indie America's this thing.

731
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.000
<v Speaker 4>You go inside.

732
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 5>This thing is huge, but it was even bigger back

733
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:08.199
<v Speaker 5>in the day. But unfortunately, due to development and erosion,

734
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 5>much of the fort has been taken down, you know,

735
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 5>has been demolished and stuff like that. So when you

736
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 5>go to San Juan now you basically have just a

737
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 5>small portion of that fort, which is still huge.

738
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 4>You can go in there.

739
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.519
<v Speaker 5>You pay like ten bucks. You can explore the whole

740
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:26.480
<v Speaker 5>fort fort for the day and it's really fascinating. But

741
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 5>going back to the Devil sentry box, the double sentry

742
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 5>box is the oldest part of that fort, and you

743
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.760
<v Speaker 5>could tell the difference between like the architecture where a

744
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:39.480
<v Speaker 5>lot of it in the newer part of the fort.

745
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 5>You see it's all built with like stone and bricks

746
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. But then this portion of the fort,

747
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I want to say, it's probably cement or some sort

748
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 5>of like sediment, but it just looks so radically different

749
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.800
<v Speaker 5>from the rest of the fort, and it's really isolated too.

750
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 5>So the story goes and one day, this happened in

751
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 5>the fifteen hundreds, when the Spanish were occupying Puerto Rico,

752
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:11.280
<v Speaker 5>there was a man who was posted on that sentry

753
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 5>box and every night he would singing songs on his

754
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 5>guitar and he would just play songs on his guitar

755
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 5>and the guards would basically listen to him, and that

756
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.360
<v Speaker 5>was like his their indicator of Okay, this guy is

757
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 5>like in his post, no problem. This was the common occurrence.

758
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 5>Every night he would come in, he would settling his post,

759
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 5>he would play his guitar.

760
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:38.639
<v Speaker 4>He was singing.

761
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 5>Then when the shift was done in the morning, he

762
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 5>would just head back out to his barracks and.

763
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:45.840
<v Speaker 4>That's a game over.

764
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.960
<v Speaker 5>One night, the guards were walking around and they hear

765
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 5>this blood curling scream come from from the sentry box,

766
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.360
<v Speaker 5>and they're wondering, okay, are we under attack?

767
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 4>Who coming? Now?

768
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.559
<v Speaker 5>The English, the French, the Dutch? Are pirates attacking? What's happening?

769
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 5>Are we being ambushed? So they all run down to

770
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.880
<v Speaker 5>the sentry box. The story says that when they get

771
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.480
<v Speaker 5>to the sentry box, the guard is no longer found,

772
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.159
<v Speaker 5>and so they believe or rather they saw just his

773
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 5>uniform on the floor, a broken guitar, and his weapon

774
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 5>on the floor. But a really particular detail in that

775
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 5>story was the smell of sofur. The guards explained that

776
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 5>they smell the smell of sufur inside of the sentry box.

777
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.920
<v Speaker 5>So to this day, a lot of people don't know

778
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 5>what happened to the guard. They don't know if maybe he.

779
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Deserted his position, maybe the devil himself took him.

780
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I've heard stories of that specific guard box guard tower

781
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 5>being maybe a place where portal opened up and he

782
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 5>just fell into it. For maybe even suicide stories I

783
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:02.559
<v Speaker 5>have heard. The story itself is not real, but it

784
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 5>is just so fascinating to me, and that kind of

785
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:11.800
<v Speaker 5>just opens up another world spiritually of portals being in

786
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico. Could there be portals to other dimensions in

787
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico? I mean, we hear those kind of stories

788
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 5>from the Ufoon encounters. Just these different cryptis that are

789
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 5>showing up. Even you go to other monuments, you're seeing

790
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 5>spirits showing.

791
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Up and stuff like that.

792
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 5>Could these potentially be maybe other beings, all the worldly

793
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 5>beings that are sort of entering our dimension and trying

794
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 5>to disrupt whatever is happening in our side of the realm.

795
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 5>And we're going to get into the double sentry box

796
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 5>and all that stuff in the second episode more in detail.

797
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 5>But it's something that I've always found really fascinating, just

798
00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 5>that whole realm of spiritual portals in Puerto Rico. And

799
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 5>just sticking to that topic, my wife and I we

800
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 5>were in my family's property many years ago, I think

801
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 5>this must have been twenty nineteen, and we had just

802
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 5>come back from just an excursion on the island that day,

803
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 5>and so we hopped out of the car and my

804
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 5>family lives like in the middle of nowhere. They live

805
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:24.400
<v Speaker 5>on the mountains, so living on the mountains, and so

806
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 5>we naturally just like to head up on top of

807
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.239
<v Speaker 5>the hill because my family lives on Their home is

808
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 5>on top of the like probably one of the tallest

809
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 5>mountains in that region. So when you get out, you

810
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 5>could just see the entire just the valley and everything.

811
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 4>It's beautiful.

812
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 5>So my wife and I we get out, you know,

813
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 5>we're enjoying the sunset.

814
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 4>But on that day, it was.

815
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Really weird because the sky it wasn't like I don't

816
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 5>think it was sunny. I think it was like partly

817
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 5>cloudy on like one side of the country, and then

818
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:58.440
<v Speaker 5>like behind us it was sunny. Because Puerto Rico is

819
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.239
<v Speaker 5>like that, like you'll literally drive around the island and

820
00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 5>there's parts of the island that are just super cloudy

821
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:06.639
<v Speaker 5>and just rainy, and then like the other side will

822
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 5>be just completely sunny. So it's like one of those days.

823
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 5>So we get out, we're looking over the valley, we're

824
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.599
<v Speaker 5>looking at the clouds, and my wife looks up and

825
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:17.119
<v Speaker 5>she's like, hey, what's that. What's that in the sky,

826
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like where and she points like right there,

827
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 5>and she sees what looks like these two objects just

828
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 5>flying in front of the clouds. And it's weird because

829
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 5>as they're flying, you're seeing this partying in the cloud

830
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 5>just open and inside of the cloud. It looks really

831
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 5>like orange and like a golden orange. And these two

832
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 5>objects just go inside of this party in the cloud

833
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 5>and just closes back up.

834
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. Yeah, and you both saw this.

835
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.119
<v Speaker 4>We both saw this. Oh saw that.

836
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 5>And I'll share with you another story that happened on

837
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.920
<v Speaker 5>that exact same spots. So on that exact same spot,

838
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.280
<v Speaker 5>on another night that we were there. I think this

839
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 5>must have happened before that incident, but on that night

840
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 5>we were both just stargazing. So again, out there, it's

841
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.239
<v Speaker 5>just open country. You're looking at stars. We're laying down

842
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 5>the middle of the road, and there's no cars that

843
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 5>pass through there at night. It's a very just isolated

844
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 5>part of the island. So I bring on my camera.

845
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm taking pictures of the stars, you know, doing some

846
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 5>sort of like you know, low exposure photography, and we

847
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 5>hear this scream from like one of the just coming

848
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:42.559
<v Speaker 5>from like the other side of the mountain.

849
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Just a guy just go just echoes throughout the mountain side,

850
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:50.320
<v Speaker 4>and we're thinking, what was that?

851
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 5>Probably just some couple of guys like on the other

852
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 5>side of the mountain having fun, because like a mile

853
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 5>or two or three down the road, there's like this

854
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 5>big strip of restaurants and bars where people tend to

855
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 5>party on Saturday the night. So we're thinking, maybe it's

856
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 5>just a couple of dudes just having fun and screaming out.

857
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:09.280
<v Speaker 4>And then.

858
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 5>As I turn around to look at my wife who

859
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:17.480
<v Speaker 5>was standing behind me, I see this little white wisp

860
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 5>just go right past her and.

861
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 4>Just completely disappears.

862
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, did I just.

863
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:32.880
<v Speaker 4>I just saw that it was just a white, just wisp.

864
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 5>And mind you, it's pitch black. The only the only

865
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 5>light source is like the moon and the stars, and

866
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 5>I just see this white wisp just sort of materialized

867
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.719
<v Speaker 5>behind her and then just disappears, like just a cloud

868
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 5>of smoke.

869
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.639
<v Speaker 4>It was really weird, and.

870
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 2>It was in conjunction with the scream. Like you heard

871
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the scream, you look back to her, Yeah, this was

872
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 2>and that's when it happens.

873
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this has happened literally just a few seconds after

874
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 5>we heard the scream. After we heard the scream, I

875
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 5>turned back at my wife and I'm thinking, what was that.

876
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 5>We might've heard the scream a second time. I don't,

877
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm not too sure, but I just know that we

878
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 5>just heard a scream and then one of the times

879
00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:13.960
<v Speaker 5>and I just saw like a white wisp just it

880
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 5>was almost like it was just floating, floating on the

881
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.559
<v Speaker 5>road just right behind her. And I told her, hey,

882
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I just saw something behind you. It just disappeared, and

883
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 5>she just got so really creeped out. She's like, I

884
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 5>want to run back to the house, like I'm not

885
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 5>doing this, And me, being the crazy guy that.

886
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Am, I was like, I want to check this out.

887
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Let's see what this.

888
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.000
<v Speaker 5>Is, you know, And so of course, you know, I

889
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:34.000
<v Speaker 5>had to listen to the wife. Man, I'm like, all right, fine,

890
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 5>let's go back inside the house. And yeah, that that

891
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 5>was just really weird. And that happened right in that

892
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 5>same property where we saw those two flying objects go

893
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 5>into that party in the cloud, which is really fascinating.

894
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.079
<v Speaker 5>I also had another encounter there when I was younger

895
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:52.119
<v Speaker 5>as well, on that same spot, which is really weird.

896
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.119
<v Speaker 5>I guess I can add into that because I think

897
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 5>there's just something there. So when I was a kid,

898
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 5>this was it must have been around eight. I think

899
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 5>I was like eight years old. My parents have sent

900
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 5>me to Puerto Rico one summer. I think they were

901
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.039
<v Speaker 5>like having like memorial issues, and so in order to

902
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 5>just sort of like get us out of the house

903
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 5>and away from that, they just decided to send us

904
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 5>with our family for the summer.

905
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 4>So I was hanging out.

906
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 5>I was with my aunt and uncle, and so there's

907
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.920
<v Speaker 5>a tradition on Saturday nights where most people on the

908
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 5>island go to Catholic church. Now over here in the States,

909
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 5>we tend to have Catholic masks on Sundays. When Puerto

910
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 5>Rico is very popular to then have Catholic masks on

911
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.519
<v Speaker 5>a Saturday night, and then after the Mass is finished,

912
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 5>then you go out and party and drink and do

913
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.599
<v Speaker 5>all that. Oh that don't holy stuff, right, So you know,

914
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 5>that's just how we are as Puerto Ricans.

915
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I've cleans the temple to dirty it up again.

916
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 5>That's right there you go, man, It's like Marty Graut

917
00:50:56.480 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 5>every weekend. So yeah, my and an uncle had just

918
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 5>taken us to the Mass and we came out, and

919
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:05.679
<v Speaker 5>so we had this little tradition. As soon as they

920
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 5>came out of church. They would take us to a

921
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 5>local bakery. We got a little sugar doughnut, and then

922
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 5>we used to have some quick, some chocolate quick. They

923
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:14.840
<v Speaker 5>used to call it quick back in the day. Now

924
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.239
<v Speaker 5>it's called nest quick or I don't even know what

925
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 5>it's called now. It was chocol mill. It was like

926
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 5>my favorite treat ever. And they're like, all right, now

927
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:23.320
<v Speaker 5>that we got settled, we got our snacks for the night,

928
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.880
<v Speaker 5>let's head back on to the property. So we would

929
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:29.199
<v Speaker 5>drive up the mountain about like a nice little fifteen

930
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.440
<v Speaker 5>minute drive. It's so dark you can't barely even see

931
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 5>the hand in front of you, and so the only

932
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 5>light source is maybe just a couple of like lamp

933
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 5>posts spread across the road and just you know, the

934
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 5>lights on your car. And so we ended up pulling

935
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:49.159
<v Speaker 5>up to the property. We went into the garage, and

936
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.199
<v Speaker 5>I decided just to go out to the top of

937
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 5>the hill, the same spot where the first two stories

938
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 5>took place at I'm like, huh, it's really nice, Like

939
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I'm being drawn to this area.

940
00:52:04.920 --> 00:52:06.519
<v Speaker 5>So I walk up to the area, to the top

941
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 5>of the hill where we're at, and at this time,

942
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:15.800
<v Speaker 5>there used to be not anymore because right in this day,

943
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 5>I think they had cleared out the area where the

944
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.280
<v Speaker 5>lot is at out. But when I was younger, that

945
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 5>a lot did not exist. It was all just forced

946
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 5>from top to bottoms, just all trees and just high

947
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 5>blade grass.

948
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 4>And all that stuff. I don't know why.

949
00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.280
<v Speaker 5>It's like, I feel like something's drawing me to this place.

950
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what it is, but I feel like

951
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I just need to stand here and I need to

952
00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.440
<v Speaker 5>look into the forest. So I was standing in that

953
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:51.079
<v Speaker 5>area and I'm looking. I'm like, okay, it's like, why

954
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 5>am I looking into the deep dark recess of this forest?

955
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 5>And I'm looking, and I'm looking, and I'm looking and

956
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking. And sure enough, as I start looking closer

957
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 5>in the back of the forest, not too far, like

958
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 5>it's pretty close to me.

959
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I would say it was about.

960
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Maybe fifty sixty feet away from like the edge of

961
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 5>the forest, I see a pair of red eyes. And

962
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 5>this pair of red eyes they're right behind just the

963
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 5>tall blade of grass. So whatever I was looking at

964
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:25.559
<v Speaker 5>wasn't too huge.

965
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 4>It must have been about maybe three four feet.

966
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:31.880
<v Speaker 5>But I noticed that as I'm looking at this pair

967
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.599
<v Speaker 5>of red eyes, I'm noticing that this thing is not

968
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 5>standing still. It's rather it's almost like swang from side

969
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.119
<v Speaker 5>to side, and of course it naturally freaks me out

970
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 5>and I just run.

971
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:46.519
<v Speaker 4>Back to the house.

972
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 5>I locked myself in the little dormitory next to the

973
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 5>garage where I was sleeping at and I could not

974
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 5>sleep for the rest of the night. So the next day,

975
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 5>my uncle takes me to Blockbuster. They had a Blockbuster

976
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 5>at the time. Yeah, you remember those glory.

977
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Days, bed please rewind.

978
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, although I wasn't always kind, I'll be honest with you,

979
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 5>but then again, I'm not the one who held the account.

980
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 5>I didn't care, so but yeah, we went to a

981
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Blockbuster and I'm like, looking for like movies, and I enter.

982
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:22.239
<v Speaker 5>I think they had like a paranormal section and they

983
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.119
<v Speaker 5>had a VHS on Puerto Rico and the paranormal documentary

984
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 5>specifically ons and I'm like, hey, that looks like the

985
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 5>thing I saw last night. So of course I let

986
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 5>my uncle. My uncle is he's amazing, he's awesome. He's like, hey,

987
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 5>you want to watch that? Yeah, sure, take it out.

988
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 5>And I must have spend the entire night, like over

989
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 5>that weekend just rewatching this documentary, And this is the

990
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 5>documentary that thin the guy I had mentioned before. This

991
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.679
<v Speaker 5>was the guy who had produced a documentary, and they

992
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:59.119
<v Speaker 5>showed off a lot of the takata attacks on the island.

993
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 5>And as I'm watching it, I'm noticing, Hey, this like

994
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.199
<v Speaker 5>this is like sharing very similar characteristics to what I

995
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 5>had seen the night before. She's really fascinating, just the

996
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 5>red eyes thing that it sways, one particular story that

997
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 5>really caught my attention from that documentary but I could

998
00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:20.320
<v Speaker 5>recall correctly, was the story of a guy who had

999
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 5>seen the creature on his property, and it was a

1000
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 5>really crazy story. I think he got freaked out and

1001
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 5>he pulled out his pistols started shooting at it, and

1002
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 5>this thing just wrapped itself up into a ball and

1003
00:55:33.559 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 5>basically just rolled behind his car into the garage.

1004
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Just crazy stuff.

1005
00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 5>And this, like documentary just Phil was just just some

1006
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 5>really crazy testimonies from people on the island who were

1007
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 5>witnessing this thing around that same time.

1008
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 4>So all this was happening during.

1009
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Like that whole craze, you know, Like I would say,

1010
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.559
<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico has always had like a paranormal craze. Like

1011
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 5>there's even stories like in the seventies and stuff like

1012
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.920
<v Speaker 5>in the nineties around that was like that was it.

1013
00:55:58.880 --> 00:55:59.840
<v Speaker 2>It was world news.

1014
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was talk that.

1015
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 5>That's when people they realize, wait, there's a country called

1016
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.199
<v Speaker 5>Puerto Rico. What That's when it got really like started

1017
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 5>popping off.

1018
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 2>M And uh do you think with all this stuff?

1019
00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Of course, I mean, I'm sure you do. But I

1020
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:18.920
<v Speaker 2>was about to say, do you think there's like a

1021
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:22.239
<v Speaker 2>lot of spiritual connections behind this, because I know you'd

1022
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 2>mentioned all the uh the witch doctors, the voodoo and

1023
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>would you say Saint Uh? Is that like that the

1024
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Hispanic angel of death? Like that they worship her?

1025
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:39.280
<v Speaker 5>Am I getting So, I know, I'm not too familiar

1026
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 5>with that in Puertoco. Han't done my researcher yet on that,

1027
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:45.639
<v Speaker 5>but I know that they have a a goddess of death.

1028
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 5>I know, like if you go to like Mexico, they

1029
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 5>have the something what Day.

1030
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:50.360
<v Speaker 4>I believe it.

1031
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Is what I was thinking.

1032
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, there's probably something similar in Puerto Rico to

1033
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.400
<v Speaker 5>somethime what they ask which is the patron saint of death.

1034
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so yeah, all that stuff is all connected.

1035
00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 5>It's just a mix of like Catholicism and voodoo and

1036
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.880
<v Speaker 5>bamyom be. It's just a really dark world. I'm not

1037
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 5>sure if I want to go too deep into it

1038
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 5>even in my research, because in the past that I've

1039
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 5>done research on the occult, it hasn't like ended too

1040
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 5>well for me. And praise God, he brought me out

1041
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 5>of that.

1042
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:19.920
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, all that.

1043
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.800
<v Speaker 5>Stuff is all interconnected. There's just been a lot of influences,

1044
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 5>especially during the time period where we are exploring the

1045
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.719
<v Speaker 5>documentary of myths and legends from most On Juan. A

1046
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of that stuff takes place majority in the fifteen

1047
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.320
<v Speaker 5>sixteen hundreds, seventeen hundreds, where you had just you know,

1048
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 5>you had the slave trade, you had the Catholic Church

1049
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:42.159
<v Speaker 5>coming in and building their own churches and sort of

1050
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 5>you know, structuring the island to their preferences and stuff

1051
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 5>like that.

1052
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:52.280
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, all that stuff, even like the the

1053
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:54.800
<v Speaker 3>the genocide of the Tinos, like, all that stuff is

1054
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:57.119
<v Speaker 3>all connected on a spiritual level.

1055
00:57:57.400 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 5>It's really fascinating. It's tragic, but also really fascinating in

1056
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:04.440
<v Speaker 5>that sense. And that's why I, like, I do believe

1057
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.599
<v Speaker 5>that all this stuff is just just this huge spiritual

1058
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 5>warfare that has been playing out on the island for

1059
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 5>just a long long time.

1060
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm a big giants guy. Yeah, that's kind of

1061
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>what got me into this, you know, fringe space. That

1062
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.719
<v Speaker 2>was my my gateway drug as some people say. Uh,

1063
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.599
<v Speaker 2>and that's something that I've found this nation or not nation,

1064
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.599
<v Speaker 2>but global. How about said nation? Why? But you know

1065
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:40.559
<v Speaker 2>it's global. Every single culture throughout history has stories of giants.

1066
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Have you found any giants down there in San Juan

1067
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>or Puerto Rico or just anywhere in one of those

1068
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:52.159
<v Speaker 2>chains of islands.

1069
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 5>I'll have to get back to you on that, but

1070
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 5>that's actually really interesting. I'm actually gonna be having a

1071
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:00.239
<v Speaker 5>phone call with what have I been this week so

1072
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 5>I could ask them about that. See we's found anything.

1073
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 5>If I find anything, absolutely, I'll let you know. But yeah,

1074
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 5>that's really interesting. I know there was a guest in

1075
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 5>the past who you brought on who spoke about giants

1076
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:15.239
<v Speaker 5>in Aruba, which was really fascinating.

1077
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I.

1078
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.480
<v Speaker 5>Wouldn't be surprised if there are giant things in Puerto Rico.

1079
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:25.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you find anything in Puerto Rico just about.

1080
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.039
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's not one thing at this point that

1081
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't think you can find there. So giants is

1082
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.679
<v Speaker 5>very plausible, especially with the Tainos and them having just

1083
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of legends and stories of giants. I wouldn't

1084
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:39.199
<v Speaker 5>put it past anybody yet.

1085
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, that's definitely something that's always been just I've

1086
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:50.000
<v Speaker 2>been personally fascinated with. And Heather Arnold she found all

1087
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.039
<v Speaker 2>kinds of cool stuff down there in Aruba, and you

1088
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 2>know that's you know, I mean it's not like next

1089
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 2>door neighbors, but I mean we're talking about a good

1090
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.639
<v Speaker 2>general vicinity right right there. That was kind of like

1091
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a springboard I think for a lot of cultures. Because

1092
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm a diffusionist. I think we were selling the seas

1093
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 2>and trading and exploring and doing all this stuff thousands

1094
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:18.119
<v Speaker 2>of years before Columbus, and a lot of the natural tides,

1095
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 2>like from Europe and Africa leads straight into you know, Cuba,

1096
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Aruba and down there in that Gulf of Mexico area

1097
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and these guys, you know, like Columbus and I can't

1098
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:39.480
<v Speaker 2>remember that guy's name now that Heather had found, but

1099
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:42.840
<v Speaker 2>she found some of his journals and he was talking

1100
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 2>about the giants that they encountered and all this stuff,

1101
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and then how they were just bouncing around Island Island

1102
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.360
<v Speaker 2>and some of them, you know, were cannibals, and and

1103
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:54.280
<v Speaker 2>that this that area was honestly just because even how

1104
01:00:54.320 --> 01:00:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the tides took these sailors there and then they springboarded

1105
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:00.920
<v Speaker 2>to South America, to North America and just kind of

1106
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 2>went around. So I think that's a high potential for

1107
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 2>just a shmortgash board of cultures and legends and stories

1108
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and even the giants, you know, because they took their

1109
01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:17.639
<v Speaker 2>ships over here. I believe the phnicians.

1110
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean, as we were talking about it,

1111
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 5>even in the beginning, they you know, the Nozariro collection,

1112
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.440
<v Speaker 5>like that's not, at least from what I've seen the research,

1113
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:31.559
<v Speaker 5>like that's not native to Puerto Rico. Just to just

1114
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:34.320
<v Speaker 5>find that in the middle of nowhere, like stuff that

1115
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.960
<v Speaker 5>has possible traces to like the Middle East, Like what

1116
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.360
<v Speaker 5>is that stuff doing there? And to this day, no

1117
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:44.760
<v Speaker 5>one's been able to decipher the actual like language of

1118
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:48.079
<v Speaker 5>those stones. And again take this with a grain of salt.

1119
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:52.079
<v Speaker 5>I also believe that they have done some like studies

1120
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 5>on the material and it's not native.

1121
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 4>To Puerto Rico.

1122
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 5>She's really fascinating, but again, don't quote me on that,

1123
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.119
<v Speaker 5>Like I do advice your audience do all your own research,

1124
01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 5>Like take everything that I'm saying with a grain of salt.

1125
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 5>You know, my word is not gospel, but you know,

1126
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 5>look into this stuff, and yeah, you might be surprised

1127
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 5>with like the stuff that you find out about this country.

1128
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 5>It's it's incredibly fascinating. Like Puerto rican I always call

1129
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 5>it like a Petri dish, right, Petri dish of just

1130
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:25.400
<v Speaker 5>so many different experiments when it comes to just you know,

1131
01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 5>the grander creation worldview. You want ghosts, you want giants,

1132
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.559
<v Speaker 5>you want any of that, You're gonna find it there

1133
01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:36.039
<v Speaker 5>most likely. It's such a fascinating country. And if you

1134
01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 5>really want to like understand just how God plays into

1135
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:45.559
<v Speaker 5>sort of the world in terms of like how he

1136
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.639
<v Speaker 5>engages with like pagan societies or how he engages with

1137
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 5>just all of these different cosmic forces that are at large,

1138
01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.039
<v Speaker 5>Like it's all on that one island. It's if you

1139
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:00.679
<v Speaker 5>want to start, like if you want like a really

1140
01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:02.880
<v Speaker 5>good starting point, like starting Puerto Rico.

1141
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Puerto Rico is just just so fascinating.

1142
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:08.000
<v Speaker 5>And there's so many stories that I can't even like

1143
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:10.239
<v Speaker 5>count them off the top of my head because they've

1144
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 5>just been going on for thousands of years, thousands of years,

1145
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 5>just relentless, like you had Tinos, and even like modern

1146
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:21.159
<v Speaker 5>day people having these just really interesting experiences.

1147
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1148
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 2>One thing that stands out to me is just because

1149
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:27.400
<v Speaker 2>where I know Chief Joseph, you know, me and him

1150
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 2>is pretty good friends. And he lives just you know,

1151
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes down the road from me. But he was

1152
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:39.280
<v Speaker 2>talking to me and he gets worked up over Columbus,

1153
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, even at the interview that we've done together,

1154
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and his wife talked about it, and it was like

1155
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 2>his wife was like, you know, if any of your

1156
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:54.119
<v Speaker 2>listeners or teachers stop perpetuate perpetuating this live Christopher Columbus

1157
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:58.039
<v Speaker 2>and Joseph, he said, yeah, he said it was my people.

1158
01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:02.000
<v Speaker 2>He said that welcome don with open arms. He said

1159
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 2>they were starving and about to die thirst He said,

1160
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:07.480
<v Speaker 2>our people was the ones that met them on the

1161
01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:10.239
<v Speaker 2>beach and took them in and fed them and watered them,

1162
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he said, helped them and all this stuff.

1163
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:16.199
<v Speaker 2>He said. Knowing what we know now, he said, he said,

1164
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I'd go back and tell my ancestors to burn their ships.

1165
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Man, And that was something that was really interesting

1166
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.400
<v Speaker 5>in the first episode we saw that animated portion. That's

1167
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.199
<v Speaker 5>something that we try to represent, you know, just the

1168
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 5>whole relationship with the Tainos and the Spanish who came

1169
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:38.519
<v Speaker 5>in and eventually colonized the entire island, and truth to

1170
01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:40.639
<v Speaker 5>be told, that's still a really sore spot for a

1171
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 5>lot of Puerto Ricans to this day. They had a

1172
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.039
<v Speaker 5>lot of them on a cultural leve will have just

1173
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:50.480
<v Speaker 5>a huge distrust for the government. And yeah, rightfully so

1174
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 5>there's been a lot of abuses from just both the

1175
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 5>local government and just even the government here on the mainland.

1176
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 5>Just a lot of just abuse and finances. In fact,

1177
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 5>there was a secon in that first episode where I

1178
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 5>showed off just the handling of how they handled Hurricane Maria,

1179
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.559
<v Speaker 5>which was like the worst hurricane at the country's ever had,

1180
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 5>and the fact that they held back so many resources.

1181
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why.

1182
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if maybe they didn't have enough manpower,

1183
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, if they were like incompetent, like all

1184
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 5>this stuff, Like I showed the news footage and all

1185
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 5>this stuff was just locked away like in storage for like.

1186
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:23.599
<v Speaker 4>A whole year.

1187
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:26.639
<v Speaker 5>Meanwhile, you have Puerto rican Sta till this day have

1188
01:05:26.760 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 5>not recovered from the damage of the storm, Like a

1189
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:32.400
<v Speaker 5>lot of them lost their businesses, they lost their homes,

1190
01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.719
<v Speaker 5>and even there are even still parts of the island

1191
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:37.719
<v Speaker 5>that have not recovered, like they're still trying to get

1192
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:39.079
<v Speaker 5>the electricity up.

1193
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:40.280
<v Speaker 4>It's really bad.

1194
01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:42.719
<v Speaker 5>And so a lot of that those wounds, you know,

1195
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.599
<v Speaker 5>they stemmed from that time period with Christopher Columbus, with

1196
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:49.440
<v Speaker 5>Juan Pons de Leon, where they came in and they say, hey,

1197
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.800
<v Speaker 5>you know what we're going to bring in our kingdom,

1198
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, to you little people, quote unquote, and there's

1199
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:56.920
<v Speaker 5>nothing you could do about it.

1200
01:05:58.000 --> 01:05:59.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's just been.

1201
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:02.760
<v Speaker 5>A wound that has lingered on for centuries now, and

1202
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 5>it really is tragic to just see a lot of

1203
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.199
<v Speaker 5>people on the island still have that attitude.

1204
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 4>But one thing that.

1205
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 5>I see from the Puerto Rican people is that they

1206
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:21.000
<v Speaker 5>are extremely resilient, man, Like these are people that you

1207
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 5>just can't break them, like history has tried to break them.

1208
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:28.320
<v Speaker 5>And yet you still go out there into the island

1209
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.440
<v Speaker 5>and these people are still enjoying our lives. You know,

1210
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.840
<v Speaker 5>they go out with their families, they go out and party,

1211
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 5>they go.

1212
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Out to restaurants.

1213
01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 5>You know, they still have their faith and it's really

1214
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:40.239
<v Speaker 5>just an incredible thing to see, you know, and it's

1215
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:44.639
<v Speaker 5>it's good when when it's really a cool testimony to

1216
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:49.880
<v Speaker 5>see when you see just an abuse of people that

1217
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 5>just has happened for hundreds of years, and then even

1218
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 5>then you're still choosing to say, no, that's not going

1219
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:57.639
<v Speaker 5>to define.

1220
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.039
<v Speaker 4>Us, like this is who we are, this is who

1221
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.519
<v Speaker 4>our culture are, and that's it, you know.

1222
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:05.960
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that was my little, like I guess, my

1223
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 5>words of passion for Puerto Rico.

1224
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1225
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't imagine because I mean, honestly, like you said,

1226
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, with all the storms that they get down there.

1227
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, these people probably if they live long enough,

1228
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:26.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, if they live to sixty or seventy, you know,

1229
01:07:26.559 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 2>they get a good hurricane at least every decade. Could

1230
01:07:31.960 --> 01:07:34.519
<v Speaker 2>you imagine? I mean, I couldn't imagine having to totally

1231
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:40.119
<v Speaker 2>just rebuild my entire life, my home, everything, every you know,

1232
01:07:40.199 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen years for storms.

1233
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1234
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I might be able to do it once after

1235
01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 2>the second one, man, I'd be like I'm getting the

1236
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:49.960
<v Speaker 2>al out agree.

1237
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

1238
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Now a lot of people can't handle Puerto Rico, even

1239
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people who like move here, from like

1240
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:58.119
<v Speaker 5>the mainland, Like Puerto Ricans that moved from the mainland

1241
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.519
<v Speaker 5>they go to Puerto Rico, they're like, yeah, after six

1242
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 5>months of like, yeah, I can't handle this, Like yeah,

1243
01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:08.800
<v Speaker 5>island of enchantment, what now you know? But it really is,

1244
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:14.280
<v Speaker 5>like I think it just takes a certain character, like

1245
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:17.000
<v Speaker 5>for me being raised on the island and like having

1246
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:19.720
<v Speaker 5>lived in New York for such a long time, I

1247
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:21.560
<v Speaker 5>do see a lot of the cons in Puerto Rico.

1248
01:08:21.880 --> 01:08:26.199
<v Speaker 5>It's not for everybody, but man, trust me when I

1249
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 5>tell you, Like, if you just go there and you

1250
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.800
<v Speaker 5>visit once, the chances are you're not want to not

1251
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 5>gonna want to come back. And everything that the country

1252
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:36.560
<v Speaker 5>has to offer, Man, it just outweighs so many of

1253
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 5>the negatives because you're practically at peace. Like Puerto Rico's

1254
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:44.840
<v Speaker 5>like an island where yeah, okay, like it's not perfect,

1255
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 5>but for the most part, people are very loving, people

1256
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 5>are very gracious.

1257
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:50.279
<v Speaker 4>There's a big move of.

1258
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 5>God, even on the island where a lot of the

1259
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:58.279
<v Speaker 5>older generations would hold on really strict to like Catholicism,

1260
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.039
<v Speaker 5>and lately they've been moving Like the younger generation, I've

1261
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:04.319
<v Speaker 5>noticed it has been moving more towards like Protestantism.

1262
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 4>She's really encouraging to see.

1263
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:08.199
<v Speaker 5>And so just to see a lot of younger people

1264
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:11.680
<v Speaker 5>embrace the message of gospel and just be so passionate

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01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.960
<v Speaker 5>about it is really cool. So yeah, I'm really hopeful

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01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:16.000
<v Speaker 5>for the future of Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And honestly, I think that has a lot to

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01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.960
<v Speaker 2>do with just roots and what you get used to.

1269
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 2>And because I hear people all the time. I mean,

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01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:31.520
<v Speaker 2>every place has its pros and its cons. But even

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:36.359
<v Speaker 2>our mutual friend La Marzouli, I've talked to him several

1272
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:41.039
<v Speaker 2>times about, you know, moving because I mean he lost

1273
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:44.279
<v Speaker 2>everything in a fire, and every couple of years, those

1274
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Santa Ana wins down there in California, you know, lare

1275
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.880
<v Speaker 2>up and he has to evacuate and wait and hope

1276
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 2>that he doesn't, you know, get burned out again and

1277
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:58.800
<v Speaker 2>all the just the politics and the drugs and the

1278
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:03.039
<v Speaker 2>crime and all that stuff California. But people just they

1279
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:06.159
<v Speaker 2>love it, man, they don't want to leave. But I've

1280
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.520
<v Speaker 2>told La, I'm like, man, I've moved Tennessee or something.

1281
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.560
<v Speaker 2>You guys are fighting these fires every year, and He's like, no,

1282
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:16.319
<v Speaker 2>this is my home. I ain't going nowhere. I love

1283
01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:16.680
<v Speaker 2>it here.

1284
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:18.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's hard to argue that too. I mean it's

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01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:23.439
<v Speaker 5>also based on conviction.

1287
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:24.279
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1288
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:27.119
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes God causes to move away, and God says, no,

1289
01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:29.640
<v Speaker 5>this is your battleground. Like you have to stand here

1290
01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:33.840
<v Speaker 5>and just remember that even though you are in this

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01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.560
<v Speaker 5>region of the planet, this is not your permanent home.

1292
01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:41.439
<v Speaker 5>This is more just like your mission center. This is

1293
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:43.600
<v Speaker 5>just like your area of missions. You know, your true

1294
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:46.119
<v Speaker 5>home is in the Kingdom of God. And so when

1295
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:50.039
<v Speaker 5>you start adopting that mindset, which as Christians we should

1296
01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:52.199
<v Speaker 5>all adopt that mindset right for His kingdom is not

1297
01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:55.039
<v Speaker 5>of this world, it becomes a lot easier to sort

1298
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:58.840
<v Speaker 5>of digest a lot of the trials that come our

1299
01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 5>way where the region where they're personal, you know. So

1300
01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 5>it can be really difficult, you know, because as Christians,

1301
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 5>we want better and we know that God wants better

1302
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.600
<v Speaker 5>for us. But at the same time we also have

1303
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 5>to recognize now, like this is the place that God

1304
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:16.840
<v Speaker 5>has me in, and if God feels like He's going

1305
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 5>to use me in this place even though I don't

1306
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:21.800
<v Speaker 5>want to be in it, then I have to be

1307
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.399
<v Speaker 5>obedient to that. Like you look at the story of Daniel,

1308
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 5>Daniel who's stuck in Babylon, and even then he reigned

1309
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.800
<v Speaker 5>like God blessed him, even in that place of wickedness,

1310
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:36.199
<v Speaker 5>right to the point where he became the mouthpiece of

1311
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 5>God in that place, and many people repented before God

1312
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 5>because of him. And so I always like to look

1313
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.520
<v Speaker 5>at that story, and because I you know, I live

1314
01:11:44.560 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 5>in New York City and it's not the most ideal place.

1315
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, there's a.

1316
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:51.239
<v Speaker 5>Lot of cool restaurants, you have the MTA. It's easy

1317
01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:53.720
<v Speaker 5>to get to work and to go here and there.

1318
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.359
<v Speaker 5>But then like when I hear, oh man, you're from Tennessee,

1319
01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.640
<v Speaker 5>like you can do what I wish I could do

1320
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:03.119
<v Speaker 5>that up here, the most I can get is just

1321
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 5>a pepper spray, and even then, like I might have

1322
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.000
<v Speaker 5>to register that as well. But it can be tough.

1323
01:12:09.079 --> 01:12:12.279
<v Speaker 5>But when you start taking to perspective like I have,

1324
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I don't normally tell this to people, but

1325
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:19.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, there's times where I'll see homeless people and

1326
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 5>I'll just buy them a meal, you know, and just

1327
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:24.560
<v Speaker 5>bless them and pray for them. And I remember when

1328
01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 5>COVID came in and the city just went crazy with

1329
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 5>lockdowns and all that, and they were telling people.

1330
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Hey, stand six feet apar or you're.

1331
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Gonna die, Like I was out there feeding homeless guys,

1332
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:37.720
<v Speaker 5>hugging them, praying for them, like I was just doing

1333
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 5>this on my own because I felt like, hey, like

1334
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:43.920
<v Speaker 5>where all the Christian guys, Like where's everybody? Like the

1335
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 5>churches are shutting down, Like who's going to take up

1336
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:52.560
<v Speaker 5>the gospel during these days where like everybody's just bailing out.

1337
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:54.359
<v Speaker 5>And so I decided, you know, I have nobody's gonna

1338
01:12:54.399 --> 01:12:56.640
<v Speaker 5>do it. I'm gonna go out there and iver. I

1339
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.119
<v Speaker 5>have to put my life in danger and so be it.

1340
01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:05.399
<v Speaker 5>And I feel like the Lord has responded to me

1341
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:11.039
<v Speaker 5>from that season and he's rewarded me because of that obedience.

1342
01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 5>And was it easy to do at the time, No,

1343
01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:16.600
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't because at that time, had it been caught,

1344
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, hugging a homeless guy, you know, when they

1345
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 5>were telling us, hey, six feet apart and praying for them,

1346
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:24.000
<v Speaker 5>I probably could have been arrested. But I didn't care

1347
01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.600
<v Speaker 5>because I knew that the desire and the mission that

1348
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:28.520
<v Speaker 5>the Lord had put in my heart was more important

1349
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.560
<v Speaker 5>than any earthly power and any earthly threat, you know,

1350
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 5>threat at that time. So yeah, you know, Christian Christians

1351
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:38.720
<v Speaker 5>in the big cities are man, they've built different.

1352
01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:40.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't know how we do it.

1353
01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:43.479
<v Speaker 5>Man, Like we can be pretty on fire for God,

1354
01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:45.640
<v Speaker 5>because at that choice, you know, we don't have a choice.

1355
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:50.159
<v Speaker 5>It's like either you stake, you know, either you gold

1356
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:53.479
<v Speaker 5>out or you just get stumped out. And I'd rather

1357
01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 5>go out. And if I get stumped a while going out,

1358
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 5>so be it.

1359
01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:59.439
<v Speaker 4>Man, m yep.

1360
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.800
<v Speaker 2>And not only that too, just the unsurty of the time.

1361
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:06.560
<v Speaker 2>All you had was all the news stations and stuff

1362
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 2>were all you know, hook line and sinker and pitching

1363
01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the same thing, and everybody was saying, you know, you're

1364
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna die, You're gonna die, you know if you don't

1365
01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:19.199
<v Speaker 2>get what was it Biden said, if you don't get

1366
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 2>your vaccines, it's going to be a long, dark winner

1367
01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:27.800
<v Speaker 2>of death for the unvaccinated. And so it's like, yeah,

1368
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.560
<v Speaker 2>especially in the beginning, everybody was scared of death, you know.

1369
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that hug or feeding that homeless guy, you know,

1370
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:38.479
<v Speaker 2>could have potentially been your death in your mind at

1371
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 2>that time.

1372
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:42.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's very true, you know, And it's funny because

1373
01:14:42.359 --> 01:14:45.520
<v Speaker 5>at the beginning when it's all started. I actually I

1374
01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 5>believe it was COVID because it was really weird, because

1375
01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:49.520
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people are saying it was just the flu.

1376
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:51.600
<v Speaker 5>But I'm like, I've never had a flu like this before.

1377
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 5>And I remember one night I just like got out

1378
01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:57.279
<v Speaker 5>of bed and I just started shivering and shivering and shivering.

1379
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.199
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, why am I like convulsively?

1380
01:14:59.239 --> 01:14:59.920
<v Speaker 4>What is going on?

1381
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.239
<v Speaker 5>And I'm trying to like drink water and I'm coughing,

1382
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:06.159
<v Speaker 5>and I started coughing so hard that I started actually

1383
01:15:06.760 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 5>spitting out blood, vomiting blood to the sink, and I'm like.

1384
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:11.359
<v Speaker 4>This is not the flu. What is happening?

1385
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:15.119
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, like you know, we can go into all

1386
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:17.479
<v Speaker 5>sorts of rabbit holes in there, which I mean I

1387
01:15:17.560 --> 01:15:20.920
<v Speaker 5>once in the middle of the whole thing that was happening,

1388
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 5>I did say, yo, I think this is like some

1389
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.359
<v Speaker 5>sort of like biological attack, Like there's just no other

1390
01:15:26.399 --> 01:15:30.079
<v Speaker 5>way man. And sure enough, like the information has been

1391
01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 5>has come out in the last few months, last few years,

1392
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:38.359
<v Speaker 5>has proven that, so you know, this was something serious. Yeah,

1393
01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.840
<v Speaker 5>this was something very serious. And my mother in law

1394
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:42.760
<v Speaker 5>actually worked in a hospital and there were a lot

1395
01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.600
<v Speaker 5>of people at least here in the city regionally that

1396
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.479
<v Speaker 5>ended up dying. A lot of the people who died,

1397
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.399
<v Speaker 5>they weren't in the best of health. A lot of

1398
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:53.920
<v Speaker 5>them had respiratory issues, a lot of them had like

1399
01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:59.079
<v Speaker 5>prior conditions to receiving this. So a lot of people

1400
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 5>did end up dying here in New York City because

1401
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.680
<v Speaker 5>over here we're just all closed up close quarters. It's like,

1402
01:16:05.800 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, I've been sneezed on the train, I've been

1403
01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:11.479
<v Speaker 5>like punching kicked on the train, and it's like it's

1404
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.840
<v Speaker 5>difficult to sort of get away from people, and so

1405
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 5>you still have sort of that lingering, I guess paranoia

1406
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.760
<v Speaker 5>here in the city. You still see people wearing masks

1407
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:23.159
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that. I don't want to judge those people.

1408
01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Some of them could be crazy so be paranoid, but

1409
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 5>I do believe that some of them legitimately have fear

1410
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 5>because of the trauma, because of their health issues.

1411
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:30.680
<v Speaker 4>And stuff like that.

1412
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 5>But I feel like that trauma still resides here in

1413
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:41.720
<v Speaker 5>that sense, but not as many people. I feel like

1414
01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:44.840
<v Speaker 5>the majority of people for because of the information that

1415
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.079
<v Speaker 5>has come out, and also because I think people just

1416
01:16:47.079 --> 01:16:50.279
<v Speaker 5>got tired of just being on the lockdown and say, hey,

1417
01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:52.439
<v Speaker 5>you got to take this booster. If not, you can't

1418
01:16:52.439 --> 01:16:54.239
<v Speaker 5>go to work, or you can't get paid, you can't

1419
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:56.319
<v Speaker 5>support your family, like all that stuff.

1420
01:16:56.319 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 4>I feel like, for the most part, has been pushed

1421
01:16:57.800 --> 01:16:58.399
<v Speaker 4>out the window.

1422
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 5>And I've been noticing because people saw sort of what

1423
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:05.119
<v Speaker 5>happened during this time.

1424
01:17:05.439 --> 01:17:07.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm noticing almost.

1425
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:12.439
<v Speaker 5>Like just this mass migration of people just coming back

1426
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:15.399
<v Speaker 5>to the Lord, picking up their bibles, dusting it off,

1427
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.760
<v Speaker 5>and be like, all right, Like we listen to what

1428
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 5>the world powers have.

1429
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 4>To say, but what does God's power have to say?

1430
01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:23.960
<v Speaker 5>And I've been seeing that a lot in New York City,

1431
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:26.680
<v Speaker 5>just the churches I've been filling up. People are kind

1432
01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:31.560
<v Speaker 5>of coming back to the norm, you know, and it's

1433
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.920
<v Speaker 5>been really encouraging to see.

1434
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Really cool.

1435
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah man, well master brother man, I definitely appreciate you

1436
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:46.159
<v Speaker 2>coming and sharing your stories and your testimony. I mean,

1437
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't imagine standing out in the field and seeing

1438
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.279
<v Speaker 2>a basically a portal open up in the sky and

1439
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:54.600
<v Speaker 2>two UFOs flying into it and it closing up, and

1440
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.520
<v Speaker 2>then turning around to ask your wife if she's seen it,

1441
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:03.119
<v Speaker 2>and seeing a specter. Yeah, man, but yeah, I'd love

1442
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to have you back if you want, you know, as

1443
01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 2>you start releasing some of these episodes and come on

1444
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and give some teasers to the listeners and maybe push

1445
01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:14.640
<v Speaker 2>them your way to check out some of your stuff

1446
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.880
<v Speaker 2>as you're releasing. Yeah, before we go, man, just let

1447
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 2>everybody know where they can find YouTube channel, websites or

1448
01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:23.840
<v Speaker 2>anything like that that you want to direct the listener's

1449
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 2>attention to.

1450
01:18:25.079 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1451
01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:28.319
<v Speaker 5>So uh yeah, once again, thank you for having me on.

1452
01:18:28.359 --> 01:18:31.079
<v Speaker 5>This was such an awesome conversation and you can find

1453
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:35.199
<v Speaker 5>me at the Neesta RSA, on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram.

1454
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 5>I am most active on Instagram and on YouTube whenever

1455
01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:42.960
<v Speaker 5>I decide to drop something big. I'm currently working on

1456
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.560
<v Speaker 5>a bit of an alien encounter that happened in a

1457
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:48.560
<v Speaker 5>drink it. We actually did not get into that, but

1458
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 5>that was a really freaky story that happened. Dunk is

1459
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 5>basically America's rainforest, and there's a whole lot of stuff

1460
01:18:57.000 --> 01:18:59.079
<v Speaker 5>that happens in that one region when it comes to

1461
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 5>your foes and aliens, abductions in like four to one

1462
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:04.840
<v Speaker 5>one missing cases. So I'll be dropping a video based

1463
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:08.119
<v Speaker 5>on one of those cases very soon. But yeah, if

1464
01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:10.119
<v Speaker 5>you want to know more information, you can find me

1465
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:13.279
<v Speaker 5>on those channels at the Nesta RC handle.

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01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Nice man. Well, seriously, once again, I thank you for

1467
01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 2>your time because I tell people time is life's most

1468
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.520
<v Speaker 2>valuable asset. That's the one thing you can never get back.

1469
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So I appreciate you spending your time with us and

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<v Speaker 2>telling us some of your fascinating stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother, it was a pleasure. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Anytime I got some more if you want to hear

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<v Speaker 5>them next time, definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said at the beginning of the show, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope this is the first of many conversations.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hope so too, man, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you guys be sure to check out next you

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and if you're late to the party, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually got to see episode one before he took

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<v Speaker 2>it down, So you guys got some good stuff coming

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<v Speaker 2>your way, so be sure to go to his YouTube

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<v Speaker 2>channel and subscribe. Hit that bell that way you don't

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<v Speaker 2>miss when we mix the ops. Hey, guys, hope you

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it until next time, until which just high guys.

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<v Speaker 3>H m hm.