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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, this is left Strive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, I know aka Survivor Man, and you're listening

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<v Speaker 3>to Brian on sasquatchis.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being with us for the show. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Friday. I hope you've had a great week. We

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<v Speaker 1>have an amazing guest lined up for you. But as always,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start by abiding you. If you've had

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<v Speaker 1>an encounter and you'd like to be on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin from Wisconsin, and Justin had quite a few interesting experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>We get into all things Bigfoot. I think you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are really going to enjoy this episode. But before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, I want to say a quick thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for everybody who has left reviews on

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys have came through in a huge way.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say I heard your voices loud

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<v Speaker 1>Fred and wanting to hear him back on the show

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<v Speaker 1>telling the stories. So I think Fred's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>another appearance here really soon, so you guys stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for that. And last, but not least, I am stoked

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<v Speaker 1>as I record this right now. Today, my brand new book,

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But enough of that, I know you guys are ready

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<v Speaker 1>to get into it. Justin's on the line, He's ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go. So all that's left for you to do

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<v Speaker 1>is sit back, relax, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the show.

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<v Speaker 1>A Hi from Zone to welcome our guests to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Justin from Wisconsin. Welcome to the show man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys are going night. It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start where I like to start with most people.

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<v Speaker 1>What guy you interested in the subject to begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>I think from if my memory serves me right. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first time I saw the was it

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<v Speaker 2>the Patterson Gimblin film on It's probably the History Channel

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<v Speaker 2>or something some documentary about Sasquatch a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of opened my eyes to what could

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<v Speaker 2>possibly be out there. And this was back when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a teenager or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That is definitely something that is common for most people. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I think on the plane, it is probably at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in time at least seen part of the Patterson

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<v Speaker 1>Gimblin film, and it is one of those iconic images

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<v Speaker 1>that Brain three p. Fifty two that everybody in Sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>research knows about. So you've seen the Patterson Gimblin film.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of on your radar. But I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're here to talk about an experience, So why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you take us back to where you were, what you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing, and tell us what happened to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, So, I've had two different experiences that I can

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<v Speaker 2>think of. I'll start with them in more of a

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<v Speaker 2>chronological order. So the first one happened. I guess we're

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five now, so this would be twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out in the woods for Gun to Your

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<v Speaker 2>season here in Wisconsin in the Northwest corner. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I had started listening to the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>had listened to a few dozen of those episodes and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of got more interested in the subject. So I

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<v Speaker 2>knew a little bit of what to expect or not

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<v Speaker 2>what to expect, or you know, what people report seeing

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<v Speaker 2>or hearing out in the woods and what may or

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<v Speaker 2>may not be related to their bigfoot encounters and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. Well, it was opening day, so it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, sometime mid to late November. By the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth, I had been sitting in my tree stand

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<v Speaker 2>all morning and no deer had come through, and was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sitting there listening to everybody else around me

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<v Speaker 2>have good luck, you know how it goes. I started

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<v Speaker 2>to hear this like rhythmic, like a smashing kind of

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<v Speaker 2>not not a knocking. But it's really difficult to describe

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<v Speaker 2>the sound, but it did not sound like gunfire, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was like each sound was equally spaced and almost

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<v Speaker 2>seemed intentional. I thought it was strange, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>after it the noise had happened about three or four times,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it happened two times really fast. Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think anything of it. It's kind of chalked it

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<v Speaker 2>up something weird out in the woods. And that following

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<v Speaker 2>week I had listened to the episode where he was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to I believe a guy's name is Carter Bousch Shark,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy was talking about how he thinks sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>can count use woodknocks or you know that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing to count out people in groups, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the gears clicked in my head. I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what I heard, and I thought about the

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<v Speaker 2>frequency and how many people we had out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it ended up being it was one you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is all speculation. I could be completely wrong whatever, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was one hit for each hunter. And then that

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<v Speaker 2>double hit that I had heard I was assuming was

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<v Speaker 2>we had two younger guys sitting together in one tree stand,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there were two other adults after that, sitting

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<v Speaker 2>by themselves, and I had heard this smashing sound, one

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<v Speaker 2>for each hunter, essentially almost like again speculation, like they

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<v Speaker 2>were counting, like there's humans and here here, here here

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<v Speaker 2>with each other, like you know, we got to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>these areas. So yeah, I thought that was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's about all that happened that season. I hunted a

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<v Speaker 2>few more days in twenty three and you know, no luck. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a couple of years ago, so les Terrout

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<v Speaker 2>had come out and talked about his experiences with mine

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<v Speaker 2>speaker telepathy whatever you want to call it. So just

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<v Speaker 2>more out of curiosity and you know, do what I

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<v Speaker 2>call like thought broadcasting. So it's like I go out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods and be like essentially think out. You know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just here to try to harvest food for my family,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not here to disrupt you or your way

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<v Speaker 2>of lifestyle if anybody's listening. Kind of thing. This day

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<v Speaker 2>that I harvested my dough, I had seen again, no, dear,

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<v Speaker 2>it's quiet morning. It's not really much going on that day.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it was Sunday, so you know, i'd go

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<v Speaker 2>back to work the next day. And it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I could really use this, you know, if you are

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<v Speaker 2>out there, if somebody's listening, if you have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to help me, I would really appreciate it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not more than a few minutes later. This

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<v Speaker 2>dough comes in by yourself, straight to me, looks right

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<v Speaker 2>at me in my stand, and then just keeps going

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<v Speaker 2>and walks like I think. I ended up taking the

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<v Speaker 2>shot at thirty five yards, which is pretty close. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>good ethical harvest, that kind of thing. And so again

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<v Speaker 2>all speculation could be nothing but luck, but very interesting experience.

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<v Speaker 2>My more interesting encounter happened this past season during gun season. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>this was November. I believe the season opened the twenty third,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth. It was opening morning. I went out with

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<v Speaker 2>my father in law because he knows people that own

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<v Speaker 2>the land. We wrote out on our four wheelers. He

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<v Speaker 2>likes to go super early because he's got a longer trek. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I get my stand. I believe it was around about

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<v Speaker 2>five five thirty in the morning, so it was still

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half. I'd been sitting there for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and it was just dead quiet, like I

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<v Speaker 2>could hear the mice moving in the leaves kind of quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just kind of I got set up, got

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<v Speaker 2>my coffee out, tucked myself into my coat. It was

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<v Speaker 2>nice and cold that morning, and after a half hour

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there, it kind of pokes my head up to

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<v Speaker 2>look around to see if I could see anything moving,

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<v Speaker 2>just in what little moonlight I had, and checking my surroundings.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked to my left and see anything, and slowly

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<v Speaker 2>there was this kind of like an orangish little light

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<v Speaker 2>almost it just almost eye level with me. And the

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<v Speaker 2>stand I was in is probably about twelve feet off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground in this direction to my right, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>downhill a little bit, so I'd say where this thing

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<v Speaker 2>was at was probably twelve plus easy feet off the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, that's weird. The sun shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>coming up yet and the cloud cover had started. This

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<v Speaker 2>was We've been to the south, so as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the sun was coming up, I really shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to see any sunlight in the tree tops.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was weird, and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's like a headlight or something. So I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of leaned more to my right to see if there

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<v Speaker 2>was a second one. And I did see a second light,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was again this orangish almost. I had like

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<v Speaker 2>this shimmer to it, like orangish, reddish kind of color.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, man, that's weird. That kind of looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a pair of eyes staring at me. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's whatever. You know. It kind of creeked me out,

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<v Speaker 2>so I sat back straight, you know, stop leaning to

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<v Speaker 2>my right to get my eyes off. It was freaking

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<v Speaker 2>me out. As soon as I did that, they leaned out,

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<v Speaker 2>these two lights leaned out from the tree, so I

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<v Speaker 2>oh crap, what is that. There shouldn't be any eye shine,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no light, there shouldn't be anything glowing again to

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<v Speaker 2>I could see driving a four wheeler out there. When

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<v Speaker 2>back and I saw the two small orange shimmery kind

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<v Speaker 2>of lights still same spot they were before, more to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of reddish lights glowing there probably six feet next

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<v Speaker 2>to it. It couldn't have been any animal that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. I've seen black bear and wolves and whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they were probably space six to eight inches of parts. So,

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<v Speaker 2>eyes that far aparts and forward facing for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>In the animal kingdom, there's a fascinating phenomenon known as eyeshine.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever shown a flashlight into the darkness and

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<v Speaker 1>seen the glowing eyes of an animal staring back at you,

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<v Speaker 1>you've witnessed this firsthand. This glow isn't a supernatural occurrence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a biological adaptation, the result of a special structure

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<v Speaker 1>in the eyes called the tapetum lucidum found behind the retina.

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<v Speaker 1>The tapedum lucidum acts like a mirror, reflecting light back

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<v Speaker 1>through the eye. This reflection gives the photoreceptor cells a

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<v Speaker 1>a trait common among many nocturnal creatures that rely on

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<v Speaker 1>sharp vision in low light conditions to survive. Animals like

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<v Speaker 1>cats and dogs are well known for their glowing eyes

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<v Speaker 1>at night. Cats with their eerie green reflection, and dogs

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<v Speaker 1>often reflecting yellow or blue, are prime examples. Then there

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<v Speaker 1>are raccoons, whose eyes seem to shine a pale yellow,

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<v Speaker 1>and deer whose glowing eyes can often startle drivers on

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<v Speaker 1>a dark road. This adaptation isn't limited to mammals. Birds

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<v Speaker 1>use similar mechanisms to navigate and hunt in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Each species eyeshine can vary in color depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>composition of their tepedum lucidum, offering a beautiful variety across

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<v Speaker 1>the animal kingdom. Humans, however, don't experience this. Unlike many

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<v Speaker 1>nocturnal animals, we don't have a tepedum lucidum. Our eyes

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<v Speaker 1>evolved for daytime activities, prioritizing sharp visual acuity and vibrant

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<v Speaker 1>color detection over night vision. In the dark, light that

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<v Speaker 1>enters our eyes is absorbed or scattered, so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>reflect light back. This is why you won't see a

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<v Speaker 1>human's eyes glowing in the night, unless it's a trick

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<v Speaker 1>of light or an artifact of photography like red eye

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<v Speaker 1>from a camera flash. But the animal kingdom doesn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>at reflective eyes. In some cases, creatures take it a

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<v Speaker 1>step further with eyes that seem to glow on their own. Bioluminescence,

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<v Speaker 1>the production of light by living organisms, is behind this

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<v Speaker 1>eerie glow. Certain deep sea fish, like the flashlight fish,

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<v Speaker 1>have light producing bacteria housed in pouches beneath their eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>creating a luminous effect. This glow is useful for communication, hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>or confusing predators. It's rare for animals to produce light

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<v Speaker 1>from their eyes specifically, but in the inky depths of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean where light is scarce, bioluminescence provides a unique

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary advantage. This brings us to an intriguing connection sasquatch.

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<v Speaker 1>Stories of sasquatch sightings often describe a creature with glowing

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<v Speaker 1>eyes in the darkness. If such a being exists, could

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<v Speaker 1>it be exhibiting traits seen in the animal kingdom. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>speculate for.

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<v Speaker 3>A moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch otya see we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages. Perhaps sasquatch has a tapedum lucidum,

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting light like a nocturnal animal, which would explain why

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses often describe seeing glowing eyes when shining flashlights or

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<v Speaker 1>headlights in the forest. Alternatively, it's possible sasquatch could possess

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<v Speaker 1>a form of bioluminescence, Though this would be a truly

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary trait for a mammal, such an adaptation might serve

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<v Speaker 1>purposes like signaling to others of its kind, intimidating potential threats,

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<v Speaker 1>or navigating through the dense dark wilderness. There's another possibility, though, misinterpretation.

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<v Speaker 1>When light catches the eyes of an animal, or even

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<v Speaker 1>a reflective surface like a spider's web or wet leaves,

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<v Speaker 1>it can create an illusion of glowing eyes in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>Human perception is prone to tricks. Our brains are hardwired

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<v Speaker 1>to find patterns and faces and ambiguous environments, a phenomenon

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<v Speaker 1>called paradolia, So what might be described as glowing eyes

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<v Speaker 1>could simply be a natural, though misunderstood reflection. Still, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a sasquatch with glowing or self illuminating eyes

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<v Speaker 1>captures our imagination. If sasquatch does exist, perhaps it holds

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<v Speaker 1>secrets that could deepen our understanding of evolution and adaptation.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether these glowing eyes are a natural occurrence, a unique

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary trait, or a case of mistaken identity, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating topic that bridges the known and the unknown, biology

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<v Speaker 1>and mystery. For now, the glowing eyes of sasquatch remain

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<v Speaker 1>part of its enduring enigma, blending science with the allure

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, I was like, Nope, can't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>can't look over there anymore. And it was proud a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five yard height, pretty shortnesstance back to the four

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<v Speaker 2>wheelaer and then I'd have to drive the thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>by muddy, terrible, not well kept path back to truck.

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<v Speaker 2>If I wanted to get out of there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and if it wanted to get me, whatever this thing was,

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<v Speaker 2>it would catch me. Then nobody's gonna know I'm gone

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<v Speaker 2>until end of shooting light and my father in law

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<v Speaker 2>comes by and sees I'm still there. He's would be like,

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<v Speaker 2>well he should be out by now, what the heck happened?

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<v Speaker 2>And that would be Rice seven PM or whenever shooting

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<v Speaker 2>hours end, and then he gets in his gets the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff together and heads back. So they had all these

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts racing through my mind, and tuck myself back into

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<v Speaker 2>my coat, made sure my gun was loaded, and just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of waited to see what would happen. Finally, the

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<v Speaker 2>sun started to come up. It'll be seven o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning abouts, and I finally had the courage to

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<v Speaker 2>look back over to see if they were still there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they weren't. By this time, cloud covered pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>fully taken over the sky and you couldn't There's no

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<v Speaker 2>orangish reddish glow like you'd see during sunrise in the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, okay, you know, like whatever it is, it's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have just been here to observe and went

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<v Speaker 2>about its way. The rest of the morning and afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty uneventful. I did have one more odd thing

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<v Speaker 2>happened that day. The wind had changed directions from it

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<v Speaker 2>a gentle breeze, and it thought a whiff of just

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<v Speaker 2>smelled like urine at first, like bad, like something, And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, oh, something must be dead up wind

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<v Speaker 2>to me, But I mean I'd been hunting out there

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<v Speaker 2>for at this point, probably a month straight through bo

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<v Speaker 2>season and then in the gun season, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I knew, nobody had shot anything that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't recover. It was like, you know, obviously things

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<v Speaker 2>can die wherever. But it was also freezing. As far

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<v Speaker 2>zero or blow freezing outside. So again I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty weird. And it was just this faint smell.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember taking big inhales trying to figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>that smell was. Just like that, a few seconds and

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<v Speaker 2>it was gone. That was pretty much the end of

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<v Speaker 2>that for opening day. The following day, second day of

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<v Speaker 2>opening weekends, we that Sunday, I stayed in the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>My father in law went out his normal time pitch blackout,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, nope, I can't do it again

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<v Speaker 2>So I wait in the truck until about half hour

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<v Speaker 2>to sunrise, hopped on the four wheeler and went out

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<v Speaker 2>got my stand. By that time, it was light enough

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't need a flash slight walking in I had

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<v Speaker 2>been sitting in my stand for probably an hour or two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was around nine o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I started hearing this weird sound to the southeast. At first,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, that's a really weird sounding bird.

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<v Speaker 2>The more it made this sound out there, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a bird that I'm aware of. I've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dabble a little bit in the backyard birds, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, We've got a few different bird feeders at

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and I've seen all kinds of things, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard the whipper wheels in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not an expert by any means, but I

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to the sound, it went from the southeast

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<v Speaker 2>and then it kind of moved off. It was moving

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<v Speaker 2>at my southeast and then moved more to the south.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it really loud and clear one time, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was this whoo. I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a whoop. And I've never heard this

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<v Speaker 2>sound other than recordings and people's accounts. It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're hearing these weird sounds out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got my phone out and I recorded a

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<v Speaker 2>few of the loudest ones that I got. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>cleaned up the audio and I think I threw it

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<v Speaker 2>in the email I sent to you. If not, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got it recorded and saved on my computer here too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so incredibly faint you almost need headphones to really

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<v Speaker 2>hear it clearly, but I got I think two or

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<v Speaker 2>M shortly after. I guess it was more during the

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<v Speaker 2>entire time I could hear this sound. All the dogs

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<v Speaker 2>in the entire area were going nuts, like everywhere. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really heard dogs bark out there very often.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the occasional one if somebody is out there

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, you'll hear them kind of barking a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was different. This was like constant. Every dog

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<v Speaker 2>in every direction was just not happy with this sound.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was just the weirdest thing. That I

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<v Speaker 2>even texted my father in law because he was further

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<v Speaker 2>do you hear that sound? And I kind of described

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<v Speaker 2>it and he's like, no, I don't hear anything. But

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<v Speaker 2>somebody doing a deer drive. And I was like, well,

415
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<v Speaker 2>if you're doing a deer drive, most of the guys

416
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<v Speaker 2>that i've heard of that do those, they like yell

417
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<v Speaker 2>and shout because you're trying to get the deer scared

418
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<v Speaker 2>and kick them up, get them running. But doing the

419
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<v Speaker 2>same sound over and over again, I don't know. That

420
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem likely to me. To describe the sound. It

421
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<v Speaker 2>was almost like a feminine voice was doing it. It

422
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<v Speaker 2>didn't sound deep. It was very high pitch. Yeah, I

423
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<v Speaker 2>was pretty much it for this past gun season. Into

424
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<v Speaker 2>it a few more times that we can no other

425
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>strange smells or sounds or sites or anything like that. Yeah,

426
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<v Speaker 2>that wraps up my personal experiences. I've got some other

427
00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I can go into if you know, we've

428
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<v Speaker 2>got the time or patients. So I work in it

429
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<v Speaker 2>part of my job. I'm kind of in it. People

430
00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.440
<v Speaker 2>will understand this. I wear many hats. I do a

431
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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things that may be vaguely related to it.

432
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<v Speaker 2>So I installed a security camera system in a property

433
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<v Speaker 2>down in Florida. After installing it, these cameras are equipped

434
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<v Speaker 2>with motion sensors, the spotlights, and all those fancy add ons,

435
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<v Speaker 2>So one day at work, I was tweaking the settings

436
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<v Speaker 2>with the motion sensor, because you know, you don't want

437
00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>these things clicking on and off because a bug goes

438
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<v Speaker 2>by or whatever. You want to make sure they're dialed

439
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<v Speaker 2>in and not just wasting storage based on clips that

440
00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you don't need. So I was messing with these cameras,

441
00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>started to hear just these really weird sounds, rhythmic grunting sound,

442
00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:05.119
<v Speaker 2>almost like somebody was going all night long. And it

443
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.440
<v Speaker 2>was really strange. You know, I'm born and raised in

444
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<v Speaker 2>north central Illinois and eventually moved up here to Wisconsin,

445
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm by no means a Florida native, and they've

446
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:17.680
<v Speaker 2>got some pretty strange stuff down there as far as

447
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 2>animals go, and invasive and exotic species. So it was like,

448
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:24.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever, So I, you know, I keep hearing

449
00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 2>these sounds over and over again every time I'm checking

450
00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 2>the motion detections and tweaking the settings, and I'm just like, man,

451
00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this is really weird stuff going on down there. Well,

452
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<v Speaker 2>one time when the recordings was triggered as a motion

453
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<v Speaker 2>detection and I was looking at it three am, almost

454
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<v Speaker 2>on the notes, the infrared on the camera went out,

455
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:47.119
<v Speaker 2>just clicked off, like the was switched off, like you

456
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:49.799
<v Speaker 2>can hear it click. It just stayed off for the

457
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>rest of the night until night vision was no longer necessary.

458
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<v Speaker 2>And the whole time I could hear stuff like breaking branches,

459
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 2>heavy footsteps. It's just the strangest thing. I think that

460
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.599
<v Speaker 2>I'd on them cameras and up to this point, so

461
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, man, that's crazy. And a little side

462
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.759
<v Speaker 2>note about this property is it's more like a cabin

463
00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>set up where there's people there during the day, but

464
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.880
<v Speaker 2>nobody lives there full time. So you know, if something

465
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to wander through the woods, you're pretty much full

466
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<v Speaker 2>place to yourself. Probably a couple hundred acres part of

467
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>this property, it's mostly I call it like logging land,

468
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>so it's all just like binds, kind of overgrown shrubs

469
00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 2>underneath of them, that kind of stuff. Finally, one time

470
00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 2>I was checking first motion detections. I'm watching this clip

471
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<v Speaker 2>to see where the motion detection is. I see this

472
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.319
<v Speaker 2>like quick flash and then I hear a thunk, like

473
00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>something hits the gutter that the camera's next to. It

474
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 2>was like, what the heck was at? So I rewatched

475
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this thing, and rewatch it and I download the HD version.

476
00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I watch it a few more times and looks like

477
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 2>something pops out from behind the tree that this camera

478
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 2>is facing towards and throws a rock at the camera,

479
00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>like you can see almost like an arm pop out.

480
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>The rock flies up, bounces off into flecks off the

481
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>gutter and lands on the ground. That was when I

482
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, it was, you know, sometime early morning on

483
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 2>a weekend. I can check the cameras. There's no cars,

484
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:15.279
<v Speaker 2>there's nobody there, so what the heck throws a rock

485
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.279
<v Speaker 2>from behind a tree to hit this camera? And at

486
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>this time they'd only been there I think for a

487
00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 2>month or so, so it's almost like something or someone

488
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>was curious, like what the heck is that? And it's

489
00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 2>like throwing stuff at it? What's it going to do?

490
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 2>I have that clip saved, I unfortunately can't share it

491
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>because it's on private property that I don't own. It's

492
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>one of those crappy situations. But I've shown it to

493
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>close friends and family and they're like, Wes, that's weird whatever.

494
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so that property has definitely got some weird

495
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>activity on it. I've got several other recordings After that point,

496
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>I started downloading the full nights with the audio and

497
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.279
<v Speaker 2>then go through it, scrum through it quickly. It was

498
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>originally using Audacity, and then I moved over to Adobe Audition.

499
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 2>It's got a lot more bells and whistles, way more

500
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:05.319
<v Speaker 2>than I'm capable of currently, but yeah, I'm trying so again.

501
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Tons of clips. I've got probably a dozen or so.

502
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I've actually put a bunch of them on YouTube. I

503
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.839
<v Speaker 2>put some of the raw recordings on SoundCloud as well.

504
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>If anything like that interests anybody, I can share that

505
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 2>information as well.

506
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I definitely got the stuff that you sent over from SoundCloud.

507
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<v Speaker 1>I will insert it for you guys here so you

508
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>guys can hear some of the whoops and some of

509
00:27:26.519 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the vocalizations that you've recorded on the audio. It's definitely interesting. Oh,

510
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to a couple of things

511
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in your original experiences. I had Carter Bouchard on a

512
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, and Carter was talking to me

513
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>about the very same thing. I don't know if he

514
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>was on Sasquatch Chronicles as well, but Carter and I

515
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 1>talked about that and his theory about these things being

516
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>able to count and counting people as they come and

517
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>go in certain situations. Can you talk a little bit

518
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>more specifically about the knocks or the sounds that you

519
00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 1>were hearing, because I want to get a little bit

520
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>more detail in that, because I don't think these things

521
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>are using wood on wood. I don't think they're using

522
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.079
<v Speaker 1>rocks on wood. I think they're using their mouth to

523
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>make these sounds. I could be wrong. It's just a theory, obviously,

524
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>have no frickin clue. It's all subjective when it comes

525
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to bigfoot. But I think they're using mouth pops or

526
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 1>some sort of clicks or something with their tongue to

527
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 1>make these sounds. Can you describe what it was that

528
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 1>you were hearing and maybe even talk a little bit

529
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>about your theory. Do you think it's possible these things

530
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 1>are using their mouth versus using a stick or a

531
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 1>rock to hit a tree. Stay tuned for more Sasquat

532
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 1>chatta see, we'll be right back after these messages.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

534
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<v Speaker 2>It's the best way I phone to describe that sound

535
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 2>is it was almost like something hitting like a rotten

536
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>lug or something not like that dry pine branch on

537
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.519
<v Speaker 2>dry pine branch that you hear. I've actually heard one

538
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:49.799
<v Speaker 2>of those two recently, but that's a different story. Yeah,

539
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 2>that's the best way I can describe it. It was

540
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 2>just like a solid object hitting a rotten tree. It

541
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.799
<v Speaker 2>was just, you know, it's such a unique sound you

542
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>almost can't describe it, if that makes sense.

543
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely get it. I heard that. I went

544
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 1>out on expedition with Todd Standing back in twenty twenty

545
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 1>three up in his radium research area, and I heard

546
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 1>multiple wood knocks over the course of those seven days.

547
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And it is very difficult to describe if you haven't

548
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>heard it, but it is very much like taking a

549
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>baseball bat and hitting a solid tree. That's at least

550
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>what I was experiencing. Can you talk a little bit

551
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>about what you've heard most recently with that really clear pop?

552
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was my wife's grandparents recently moved up here,

553
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>not too far to probably fifteen minutes down the highway

554
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 2>from us. Her grandpa's car wasn't starting and they wanted

555
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>me to come take a look at it. So I did.

556
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I got my stuff and I headed over there with

557
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the dog. We got there, I shut the engine off.

558
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, I opened my door, I took step out

559
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 2>of my car, and clear as day, as soon as

560
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I stood up out of the car, I heard that,

561
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 2>plain as day. So I was like shocked me. I

562
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, really, you know, it could have been anything,

563
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 2>but it seems so liberate, almost like a there's someone

564
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>here kind of thing. And I looked over where I

565
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 2>heard it. You know, the grandparents are inside, They're not

566
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 2>out there trapesing around in the woods knocking on trees.

567
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So it is just very strange. The place they live.

568
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>They rent the home. It's on a good amount of

569
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>acreage and backs up to another large wetlands kind of

570
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>wooded area as well behind that. So I mean pretty

571
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.799
<v Speaker 2>much anybody who's been up here in Northwesternconsin knows like

572
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>there's not any really major cities besides Superior. It's mostly

573
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 2>woods and swamps, and if anything wanted to hide, then

574
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 2>this would be the place to do it in this state.

575
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 1>I also want to go back justin to the incident

576
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>where you were out hunting and you saw what appears

577
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 1>to me at least to be a couple of sets

578
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 1>of eyes. And I certainly don't want to put words

579
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>in your mouth, but I want to talk specifically about

580
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that because there's been so many accounts that I have

581
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>taken over the years of people who have seen this

582
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>what people call eyeshine, but it sounds like to me again,

583
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>and I want to clarify this for the audience. Was

584
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>what you seeing eye shine in your opinion or was

585
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this some sort of a self illuminating type.

586
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Of eye It was glowing. This wasn't eye shine, Like

587
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 2>in my mind, in order to get eye shine, you

588
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.319
<v Speaker 2>would need a light source pointing at it. I've got dogs,

589
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>three cats, you get the creepy eyes from them all

590
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the time. This wasn't that there was no light illuminating

591
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 2>that would have caused it to shine. The color it

592
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>was just so bizarre. I know bart owls have kind

593
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 2>of that orange color in their eye shine, but the

594
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 2>eyes were further apart than any bart owl that I've

595
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>ever seen. I've seen them up close. They've walked right

596
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>underneath of them in trees and looked straight up at them.

597
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I love birds prey, but yeah, these were definitely seemed

598
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like they were glowing.

599
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I asked that specifically because I've documented it so many

600
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:56.759
<v Speaker 1>times on the show and people that I've had conversations

601
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 1>with when I've been at speaking events or book signings.

602
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 1>People tell me their stories all the time, and I

603
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 1>have had an experience last year. It's crazy to say

604
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 1>last year, but it is January third as we record this,

605
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five. I was out in the Pacific

606
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 1>Northwest filming a documentary last year and I'm under an NBA,

607
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so I still can't really talk about this. Hopefully in

608
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of months that I'll be over with

609
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 1>and I can give people the full scope of what

610
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 1>happened in those experiences. But I experienced something in the

611
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>woods where we saw and I say we because there

612
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>was tons of people in the woods with me, the

613
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 1>filming crew and then the other folks that were part

614
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>of this expedition slash documentary that I was filming. Saw

615
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>self illuminating, two sets of self illuminating eyes, and they

616
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>were bright white light. That's the only way I can

617
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 1>describe it. These things drop down to the ground at

618
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>some point. Then after that happened, we had some of

619
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the things and other experiences that solidified to me. It

620
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>absolutely proved to me what was happening during experience. I'll

621
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, just about everybody that I've ever

622
00:35:03.239 --> 00:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>interviewed and or had conversations with, whether it's an external

623
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 1>or internal, it's an eye roll when they say, oh,

624
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 1>this thing had glowing eyes. It wasn't eyeshine, it was glowing,

625
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like such an asshole because I felt

626
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that so many times having conversations with folks, and then

627
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I experienced it for myself. So I think that's one

628
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 1>of the most fascinating parts of this phenomenon that obviously

629
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>we're seeking the answers to the other thing that you

630
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, and I certainly want to talk about this

631
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 1>is the telepathic communication that the mind speak that so

632
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 1>many people have talked about. I had Less on the

633
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 1>show a couple of years ago, and Less shared several

634
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 1>experiences with me on the show about his telepathic communication

635
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>that he believes that he received from Sasquatch. I'm actually

636
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 1>planning an expedition in twenty twenty five, and I'm going

637
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 1>out with Less for a couple of days. At some

638
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 1>point in time, I'm definitely going to press him on

639
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>this and get some more details when we're face to face,

640
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>sitting around the fire, hopefully smoking a cigar and having

641
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>some bourbon. I don't know that may or may not

642
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 1>be part of that, but I'm definitely going to press

643
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.039
<v Speaker 1>him on this because it's something that he's made no

644
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>qualms about talking about. But there's so many people who

645
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>dismiss that, and I'll be honest, I'm a flesh and

646
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Blood I'm an aper. If there is a place to

647
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 1>plant your flag, I think I certainly publicly, for years now,

648
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>planted my flag in the Flesh and Blood camp. But

649
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just before we got on, I was literally working on

650
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 1>an upcoming episode where I'm narrating some different articles on

651
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 1>the subject and talking about some of the weirder things

652
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that happen with this phenomenon. Is it something completely different

653
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>or do these creatures have some sort of abilities that

654
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not aware of. Let me ask you this, where

655
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 1>are you on this possibility of telepathic communication with these

656
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 1>creatures and some of the other things like the glowing eyes,

657
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that would certainly be something way outside of what we

658
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 1>know of normal animal behavior.

659
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.840
<v Speaker 2>So they've had some pretty off the wall theories. But

660
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you were sitting here talking about bigfoot online, So what

661
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>can we call weird?

662
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Right?

663
00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I just a thought I had recently when I was

664
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to find an explanation of why something would be

665
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 2>glowing when you would assume that your optical receptors would

666
00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>not be emitting something because they need to receive it.

667
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Right Prior to really getting into the whole subject of

668
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot sassquatch UFOs, I wasn't really a spiritual person by

669
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 2>any means or whatever you'd consider. It's how people talk

670
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 2>about how we all have like an aura, and there's

671
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>psychics some people out there that claim they see people's

672
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:39.039
<v Speaker 2>auras and colors around individuals. My off the wall theory

673
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.159
<v Speaker 2>for it is, what if that's what they're reflecting. What

674
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.800
<v Speaker 2>if it is eyeshine and it's reflecting off of our

675
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>light that we are emitting. So we see all these

676
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>different colors in the woods, and you've heard the red screens, blues, orange, red,

677
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 2>you know all of these are As far as I

678
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 2>know this is off of my fifteen minute Google search,

679
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what's being reflected back at us. People see more.

680
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I seem to hear more about the red glowing eyes

681
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 2>than anything. What if that's just the type of person

682
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the people that go out in the woods are more

683
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.039
<v Speaker 2>prone to have this red or or something like that,

684
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So that's kind of my

685
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>thought process behind that. Again, could be totally wrong. I

686
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know anything about that world of psychic things like that.

687
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and then as far as the telepathy goes, again,

688
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>no clue how it would even be possible. I think

689
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.559
<v Speaker 2>there are things that we as humans are capable of

690
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.039
<v Speaker 2>that we don't know we're capable of, or there's been

691
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 2>abilities that we have that have just been lost throughout

692
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 2>the years of not needing to use it. Right, So

693
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 2>if you don't use it, you lose it. Or is

694
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 2>it we're just capable of receiving telepathic thoughts as opposed

695
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to sending and receiving or you know, there has to

696
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>be a certain genetic sequence linked together in your body

697
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 2>in an individual that allows you to do these things

698
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>off the wall thought. My theory is recently, it was

699
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>sometime early last year I heard about Bob Blazaar and

700
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I listened to most of it. I can't remember fills

701
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.639
<v Speaker 2>the full original interview or not, or somebody had posted

702
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a video and read it about it. I watched it,

703
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and in one of his things he talks about he

704
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.639
<v Speaker 2>talks about these briefings that were written by other people

705
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 2>who had investigated UFO crash sites and had allegedly had

706
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>conversations with extraterrestrials and stuff like that he had told

707
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:33.679
<v Speaker 2>them or he had read that human beings as we

708
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>are today are a result of sixty five genetic trials,

709
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So who's to say we're the final product. For some reason,

710
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 2>they stopped with us, that things like Sasquatch wasn't the precursor.

711
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Say they got the Florida skunk cape and they're like, no,

712
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>this one's too this, or that we need more of

713
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 2>this DNA. The way I see it, the only way

714
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 2>a civilization or species could get to the advancement that

715
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.840
<v Speaker 2>extraterrestrials would be in is to not have a code

716
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:04.440
<v Speaker 2>of ethics.

717
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Right.

718
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 2>You have to just throw everything out. You have to

719
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 2>have no emotion, no ethics. You just do things for

720
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the progression of society. While we as humans have a

721
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>code of ethics for the most part, we can't do

722
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>those or we don't do those things because it's imral,

723
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 2>it's wrong. You can't just use people for human experiments.

724
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>That's horrifying. So if they don't have a code of

725
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>ethics and they can make these horrible abominations and then

726
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>they end up with these things, they're like, well, what

727
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>do we do with them? And they just dump them

728
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.079
<v Speaker 2>here on Earth or whatever, terminate the species, whatever happens

729
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>to them. That's kind of what makes most sense to

730
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>me is, Yeah, it's some outside horses are playing with

731
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>things and either leaving them here on earth or originating

732
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>them here.

733
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting theory. I was just writing for our newsletter.

734
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 1>I have a weekly newsletter that I put out, the

735
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot Weekly Newsletter. For folks that aren't signed up, there's

736
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a button right here in the show notes. I got

737
00:40:58.480 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to just click it and you can sign up and

738
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>get newsletter. I was writing an article that I'm gonna

739
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 1>put out on Sunday for the newsletter. That's one of

740
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the things I was addressing there. Again, I'm a very

741
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood kind of guy, but I can't deny

742
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>some of these extraordinary superabilities that these creatures seem to have,

743
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and I try to address that as much as I

744
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 1>can rationally, but sometimes it just all that rationale goes

745
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 1>out the window when it comes to Bigfoot because there

746
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>are so many theories and there are so many things

747
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>out there, So let's go down that rabbit hole a

748
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit further. It sounds like to me, you're open

749
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they're created by extraterrestrials, or there's

750
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>at least some connection there for extraterrestrials. Here's the problem

751
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I have as a flesh and blood apor kind of

752
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>guy when it comes to the subject. So many times,

753
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>what I experienced when I had my sightings and my

754
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 1>encounters last year was a very physical, flesh and blood experience.

755
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>There was something large there. I saw it, I heard it.

756
00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I would argue that I felt it on the some

757
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 1>wavering I'm over five hundred plus episodes into Sasquatch Odyssey.

758
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 1>I probably interviewed over one thousand people for the show

759
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>at this point. By and large, most of the experiences

760
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>people have with these things are what would be considered

761
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 1>flesh and blood. They're crossing the road, they're carrying a deer,

762
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>they're crossing a field, very flesh and blood known behaviors

763
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of other animals that are known to science, and then

764
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 1>there's orbs, and there's glowing eyes, and then there's all

765
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 1>of this high strangers. I've even interviewed a guy who

766
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 1>claims to have seen what he believes to be an

767
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>alien craft and a sasquatch getting off of the ship.

768
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>That is as close as you can possibly get to

769
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>an alien connection to this. So I ask you again,

770
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 1>it's all subjective, but where are you on that? How

771
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 1>do you reconcile that in your brain having had your

772
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>experiences just a simple vocalization or a tree knock that's

773
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 1>a very physical interaction with these things. How do you

774
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 1>rationalize that in your brain? Let all that rattle around.

775
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Where do you come out on the other end about

776
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>some of these very physical things that people describe versus

777
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 1>some of the very wu or high strangeness experiences that

778
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 1>some people have.

779
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're a spiritual thing. They're very much

780
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>less and blood as far as I'm concerned. If my

781
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 2>theory was correct that they were created much like we were,

782
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.960
<v Speaker 2>then they're just here like we are, except they want

783
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with us because of the atrocities that

784
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 2>they've seen us commit against each other. And I'm sure

785
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>to their species, as we've heard from or at least

786
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I've heard on other podcasts and episodes about military encounters

787
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 2>and people being sent out to eliminate these things in

788
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the woods. So yeah, I still think they're bless and blood.

789
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're out here flying spaceships around and

790
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. That's a simply complex kind of explanation.

791
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 2>If that makes any sense.

792
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out toesy. We'll be right

793
00:43:55.559 --> 00:44:02.679
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages. It does, and it's certainly the

794
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.599
<v Speaker 1>best explanation I feel you can give, because honestly, at

795
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, nobody knows about these things

796
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 1>outside of your own personal experiences. Everything else that we

797
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 1>talk about is subjective. I've had my own experiences that

798
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.599
<v Speaker 1>I certainly can't explain. I know that I've seen these creatures.

799
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Now I've moved from the are they real? Where I

800
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>was so many years on the fence back and forth.

801
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Do these things actually exist? Or is everybody having some

802
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>sort of mass hallucination or making these stories up to

803
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 1>absolutely knowing they're real. Now I'm stuck on the fact

804
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>of I want to know what they are. I want

805
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to know why we can't find them the way that

806
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 1>science needs us to find them, because there's definitely nobody

807
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 1>that can sit back and say sasquatch is an undiscovered species. Sure,

808
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 1>by scientific standards, it is undiscovered, but thousands of people,

809
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I would argue, over the course of our recorded history,

810
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 1>probably tens of thousands of people have had encounters with

811
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:04.239
<v Speaker 1>what I've believe to be sasquatched. So they're undiscovered by science,

812
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but we see them and people experience them on a

813
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>regular basis. So that is really where I've shifted my

814
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>focus to is I want to know what these creatures are,

815
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and why it is that they are so elusive, and

816
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>why can't we figure out what they are where they

817
00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>are the majority of the time. So there's so many

818
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 1>things that I am now focusing on, but it all

819
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>boils down for people like you to come on and

820
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 1>share their experiences. That is some of the most amazing

821
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>data I believe that we have is the anecdotal experiences

822
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 1>from people very much like you, who really don't have

823
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 1>a dog in the fight when it comes to bigfoot.

824
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>You're just a deer hunter. You're out trying to get

825
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>sustenance for your family, and you have these weird ass

826
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 1>experiences that you can't explain. I think that's one of

827
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>the most compelling things about this Now, if you're a

828
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:52.280
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot researcher like me and you go out and have

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<v Speaker 1>it experience, people cock their head to the side and go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up with this guy? But a deer hunter comes

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<v Speaker 1>forward and says, I had this really weird experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't explain. I think that really goes a long

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<v Speaker 1>way and helping validate the subject for so many people

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<v Speaker 1>who have had experiences over the years that people frankly

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe. So I appreciate you very much coming on

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<v Speaker 1>justin and sharing your experiences and talking to me today. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been fun. He was definitely excited and both

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<v Speaker 2>nervous to come on today. One final thing I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody actually posted a video and one of the paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>subreddits out there, so it was sixteen days ago. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks like of something in a tree that looks nearly

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<v Speaker 2>identical to what I saw. Granted this thing's moving more.

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<v Speaker 2>I can throw you the link in the chat here

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<v Speaker 2>or something so you can take a look at it

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<v Speaker 2>or share it or whatever you want to do. Freaked

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<v Speaker 2>me out. I was like, there's no way. How could

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else see what I saw? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>They say you don't have a go, but you cast stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Where all happens. Said, step stays, step child, this child,

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<v Speaker 3>that child? Everything? Can you ride back right back? Joy

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<v Speaker 3>from me? Enjoy staying right you come in right away,

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<v Speaker 3>still stays, stays to stout. Talking about thessens STSSSS, Thames

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<v Speaker 3>used the FS
