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Speaker 1: Hey there and welcome back to Sasquatch Odyssey. Thank you
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Speaker 1: Justin from Wisconsin, and Justin had quite a few interesting experiences.
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Speaker 1: A Hi from Zone to welcome our guests to the show.
Speaker 1: It is Justin from Wisconsin. Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 2: Hey guys are going night. It's good to be here.
Speaker 1: Let's get right into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing.
Speaker 1: Let's start where I like to start with most people.
Speaker 1: What guy you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 2: I think from if my memory serves me right. So
Speaker 2: it was the first time I saw the was it
Speaker 2: the Patterson Gimblin film on It's probably the History Channel
Speaker 2: or something some documentary about Sasquatch a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and just kind of opened my eyes to what could
Speaker 2: possibly be out there. And this was back when I
Speaker 2: was a teenager or something like that.
Speaker 1: That is definitely something that is common for most people. Everybody,
Speaker 1: I think on the plane, it is probably at some
Speaker 1: point in time at least seen part of the Patterson
Speaker 1: Gimblin film, and it is one of those iconic images
Speaker 1: that Brain three p. Fifty two that everybody in Sasquatch
Speaker 1: research knows about. So you've seen the Patterson Gimblin film.
Speaker 1: It was kind of on your radar. But I know
Speaker 1: you're here to talk about an experience, So why don't
Speaker 1: you take us back to where you were, what you
Speaker 1: were doing, and tell us what happened to you.
Speaker 2: Sure, So, I've had two different experiences that I can
Speaker 2: think of. I'll start with them in more of a
Speaker 2: chronological order. So the first one happened. I guess we're
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five now, so this would be twenty three.
Speaker 2: I was out in the woods for Gun to Your
Speaker 2: season here in Wisconsin in the Northwest corner. At this point,
Speaker 2: I had started listening to the Sasquatch Chronicles podcast and
Speaker 2: had listened to a few dozen of those episodes and
Speaker 2: kind of got more interested in the subject. So I
Speaker 2: knew a little bit of what to expect or not
Speaker 2: what to expect, or you know, what people report seeing
Speaker 2: or hearing out in the woods and what may or
Speaker 2: may not be related to their bigfoot encounters and that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Well, it was opening day, so it'd
Speaker 2: be you know, sometime mid to late November. By the
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, I had been sitting in my tree stand
Speaker 2: all morning and no deer had come through, and was
Speaker 2: kind of sitting there listening to everybody else around me
Speaker 2: have good luck, you know how it goes. I started
Speaker 2: to hear this like rhythmic, like a smashing kind of
Speaker 2: not not a knocking. But it's really difficult to describe
Speaker 2: the sound, but it did not sound like gunfire, and
Speaker 2: it was like each sound was equally spaced and almost
Speaker 2: seemed intentional. I thought it was strange, you know. And
Speaker 2: after it the noise had happened about three or four times,
Speaker 2: I heard it happened two times really fast. Well, I
Speaker 2: didn't think anything of it. It's kind of chalked it
Speaker 2: up something weird out in the woods. And that following
Speaker 2: week I had listened to the episode where he was
Speaker 2: talking to I believe a guy's name is Carter Bousch Shark,
Speaker 2: and the guy was talking about how he thinks sasquatch
Speaker 2: can count use woodknocks or you know that kind of
Speaker 2: thing to count out people in groups, and it's like
Speaker 2: the gears clicked in my head. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe that's what I heard, and I thought about the
Speaker 2: frequency and how many people we had out there, and
Speaker 2: it ended up being it was one you know, this
Speaker 2: is all speculation. I could be completely wrong whatever, but
Speaker 2: it was one hit for each hunter. And then that
Speaker 2: double hit that I had heard I was assuming was
Speaker 2: we had two younger guys sitting together in one tree stand,
Speaker 2: and then there were two other adults after that, sitting
Speaker 2: by themselves, and I had heard this smashing sound, one
Speaker 2: for each hunter, essentially almost like again speculation, like they
Speaker 2: were counting, like there's humans and here here, here here
Speaker 2: with each other, like you know, we got to avoid
Speaker 2: these areas. So yeah, I thought that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: That's about all that happened that season. I hunted a
Speaker 2: few more days in twenty three and you know, no luck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: This was a couple of years ago, so les Terrout
Speaker 2: had come out and talked about his experiences with mine
Speaker 2: speaker telepathy whatever you want to call it. So just
Speaker 2: more out of curiosity and you know, do what I
Speaker 2: call like thought broadcasting. So it's like I go out
Speaker 2: in the woods and be like essentially think out. You know, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm just here to try to harvest food for my family,
Speaker 2: and I'm not here to disrupt you or your way
Speaker 2: of lifestyle if anybody's listening. Kind of thing. This day
Speaker 2: that I harvested my dough, I had seen again, no, dear,
Speaker 2: it's quiet morning. It's not really much going on that day.
Speaker 2: I believe it was Sunday, so you know, i'd go
Speaker 2: back to work the next day. And it was like,
Speaker 2: I could really use this, you know, if you are
Speaker 2: out there, if somebody's listening, if you have the ability
Speaker 2: to help me, I would really appreciate it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was not more than a few minutes later. This
Speaker 2: dough comes in by yourself, straight to me, looks right
Speaker 2: at me in my stand, and then just keeps going
Speaker 2: and walks like I think. I ended up taking the
Speaker 2: shot at thirty five yards, which is pretty close. You know,
Speaker 2: good ethical harvest, that kind of thing. And so again
Speaker 2: all speculation could be nothing but luck, but very interesting experience.
Speaker 2: My more interesting encounter happened this past season during gun season. Again,
Speaker 2: this was November. I believe the season opened the twenty third,
Speaker 2: twenty fourth. It was opening morning. I went out with
Speaker 2: my father in law because he knows people that own
Speaker 2: the land. We wrote out on our four wheelers. He
Speaker 2: likes to go super early because he's got a longer trek. Well,
Speaker 2: I get my stand. I believe it was around about
Speaker 2: five five thirty in the morning, so it was still
Speaker 2: an hour and a half. I'd been sitting there for
Speaker 2: a while, and it was just dead quiet, like I
Speaker 2: could hear the mice moving in the leaves kind of quiet.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of I got set up, got
Speaker 2: my coffee out, tucked myself into my coat. It was
Speaker 2: nice and cold that morning, and after a half hour
Speaker 2: sitting there, it kind of pokes my head up to
Speaker 2: look around to see if I could see anything moving,
Speaker 2: just in what little moonlight I had, and checking my surroundings.
Speaker 2: I looked to my left and see anything, and slowly
Speaker 2: moves to look to my right, and I noticed that
Speaker 2: there was this kind of like an orangish little light
Speaker 2: almost it just almost eye level with me. And the
Speaker 2: stand I was in is probably about twelve feet off
Speaker 2: the ground in this direction to my right, it goes
Speaker 2: downhill a little bit, so I'd say where this thing
Speaker 2: was at was probably twelve plus easy feet off the ground.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's weird. The sun shouldn't be
Speaker 2: coming up yet and the cloud cover had started. This
Speaker 2: was We've been to the south, so as you know,
Speaker 2: even if the sun was coming up, I really shouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to see any sunlight in the tree tops.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was weird, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe it's like a headlight or something. So I kind
Speaker 2: of leaned more to my right to see if there
Speaker 2: was a second one. And I did see a second light,
Speaker 2: but it was again this orangish almost. I had like
Speaker 2: this shimmer to it, like orangish, reddish kind of color.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, man, that's weird. That kind of looks
Speaker 2: like a pair of eyes staring at me. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's whatever. You know. It kind of creeked me out,
Speaker 2: so I sat back straight, you know, stop leaning to
Speaker 2: my right to get my eyes off. It was freaking
Speaker 2: me out. As soon as I did that, they leaned out,
Speaker 2: these two lights leaned out from the tree, so I
Speaker 2: could see both of them while sitting up right. The panic,
Speaker 2: the fear, all these feelings just washed over me, like,
Speaker 2: oh crap, what is that. There shouldn't be any eye shine,
Speaker 2: there's no light, there shouldn't be anything glowing again to
Speaker 2: the south from this stand is nearly one thousand yards
Speaker 2: of thick forest and marshland, not easy goings, and there's
Speaker 2: no trail there, so there shouldn't have been even anybody
Speaker 2: I could see driving a four wheeler out there. When
Speaker 2: they leaned out like that, it was just like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, all the thoughts raised through your mind of
Speaker 2: what it could be, and nothing made sense at the time,
Speaker 2: so I just looked away. I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, it's just watching me and I can't
Speaker 2: hear it moving, so it's not coming towards me. And
Speaker 2: I've got my three h eight. So I was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: if something tries to climb the tree, I at least
Speaker 2: have a shot for a miss second for whatever the
Speaker 2: heck it is comes after me. So I sat there again,
Speaker 2: trying to ignore the potential beasts or whatever it is
Speaker 2: lurking in dark. Curiosity got the better of me and
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I got to look back
Speaker 2: see if this thing is still there. And I look
Speaker 2: back and I saw the two small orange shimmery kind
Speaker 2: of lights still same spot they were before, more to
Speaker 2: my right, and it's left. If it was facing me,
Speaker 2: there's a second pair of larger eye shaped orange, shimmery
Speaker 2: kind of reddish lights glowing there probably six feet next
Speaker 2: to it. It couldn't have been any animal that I'm
Speaker 2: aware of. I've seen black bear and wolves and whatever
Speaker 2: else is up here. Cougar's that kind of thing. And
Speaker 2: to be up twelve to fourteen feet off the ground,
Speaker 2: they were probably space six to eight inches of parts. So,
Speaker 2: as far as I know, there's no animal that has
Speaker 2: eyes that far aparts and forward facing for that matter.
Speaker 2: They're just sitting there, both of these sets of lights.
Speaker 1: In the animal kingdom, there's a fascinating phenomenon known as eyeshine.
Speaker 1: If you've ever shown a flashlight into the darkness and
Speaker 1: seen the glowing eyes of an animal staring back at you,
Speaker 1: you've witnessed this firsthand. This glow isn't a supernatural occurrence.
Speaker 1: It's a biological adaptation, the result of a special structure
Speaker 1: in the eyes called the tapetum lucidum found behind the retina.
Speaker 1: The tapedum lucidum acts like a mirror, reflecting light back
Speaker 1: through the eye. This reflection gives the photoreceptor cells a
Speaker 1: second chance to absorb light, significantly enhancing night vision. It's
Speaker 1: a trait common among many nocturnal creatures that rely on
Speaker 1: sharp vision in low light conditions to survive. Animals like
Speaker 1: cats and dogs are well known for their glowing eyes
Speaker 1: at night. Cats with their eerie green reflection, and dogs
Speaker 1: often reflecting yellow or blue, are prime examples. Then there
Speaker 1: are raccoons, whose eyes seem to shine a pale yellow,
Speaker 1: and deer whose glowing eyes can often startle drivers on
Speaker 1: a dark road. This adaptation isn't limited to mammals. Birds
Speaker 1: like owls, reptiles like crocodiles, and even deep sea fish
Speaker 1: use similar mechanisms to navigate and hunt in the dark.
Speaker 1: Each species eyeshine can vary in color depending on the
Speaker 1: composition of their tepedum lucidum, offering a beautiful variety across
Speaker 1: the animal kingdom. Humans, however, don't experience this. Unlike many
Speaker 1: nocturnal animals, we don't have a tepedum lucidum. Our eyes
Speaker 1: evolved for daytime activities, prioritizing sharp visual acuity and vibrant
Speaker 1: color detection over night vision. In the dark, light that
Speaker 1: enters our eyes is absorbed or scattered, so we don't
Speaker 1: reflect light back. This is why you won't see a
Speaker 1: human's eyes glowing in the night, unless it's a trick
Speaker 1: of light or an artifact of photography like red eye
Speaker 1: from a camera flash. But the animal kingdom doesn't stop
Speaker 1: at reflective eyes. In some cases, creatures take it a
Speaker 1: step further with eyes that seem to glow on their own. Bioluminescence,
Speaker 1: the production of light by living organisms, is behind this
Speaker 1: eerie glow. Certain deep sea fish, like the flashlight fish,
Speaker 1: have light producing bacteria housed in pouches beneath their eyes,
Speaker 1: creating a luminous effect. This glow is useful for communication, hunting,
Speaker 1: or confusing predators. It's rare for animals to produce light
Speaker 1: from their eyes specifically, but in the inky depths of
Speaker 1: the ocean where light is scarce, bioluminescence provides a unique
Speaker 1: evolutionary advantage. This brings us to an intriguing connection sasquatch.
Speaker 1: Stories of sasquatch sightings often describe a creature with glowing
Speaker 1: eyes in the darkness. If such a being exists, could
Speaker 1: it be exhibiting traits seen in the animal kingdom. Let's
Speaker 1: speculate for.
Speaker 3: A moment.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquatch otya see we'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these messages. Perhaps sasquatch has a tapedum lucidum,
Speaker 1: reflecting light like a nocturnal animal, which would explain why
Speaker 1: witnesses often describe seeing glowing eyes when shining flashlights or
Speaker 1: headlights in the forest. Alternatively, it's possible sasquatch could possess
Speaker 1: a form of bioluminescence, Though this would be a truly
Speaker 1: extraordinary trait for a mammal, such an adaptation might serve
Speaker 1: purposes like signaling to others of its kind, intimidating potential threats,
Speaker 1: or navigating through the dense dark wilderness. There's another possibility, though, misinterpretation.
Speaker 1: When light catches the eyes of an animal, or even
Speaker 1: a reflective surface like a spider's web or wet leaves,
Speaker 1: it can create an illusion of glowing eyes in the dark.
Speaker 1: Human perception is prone to tricks. Our brains are hardwired
Speaker 1: to find patterns and faces and ambiguous environments, a phenomenon
Speaker 1: called paradolia, So what might be described as glowing eyes
Speaker 1: could simply be a natural, though misunderstood reflection. Still, the
Speaker 1: idea of a sasquatch with glowing or self illuminating eyes
Speaker 1: captures our imagination. If sasquatch does exist, perhaps it holds
Speaker 1: secrets that could deepen our understanding of evolution and adaptation.
Speaker 1: Whether these glowing eyes are a natural occurrence, a unique
Speaker 1: evolutionary trait, or a case of mistaken identity, it's a
Speaker 1: fascinating topic that bridges the known and the unknown, biology
Speaker 1: and mystery. For now, the glowing eyes of sasquatch remain
Speaker 1: part of its enduring enigma, blending science with the allure
Speaker 1: of the unexplained.
Speaker 2: At this point, I was like, Nope, can't do it,
Speaker 2: can't look over there anymore. And it was proud a
Speaker 2: twenty five yard height, pretty shortnesstance back to the four
Speaker 2: wheelaer and then I'd have to drive the thirty minutes
Speaker 2: by muddy, terrible, not well kept path back to truck.
Speaker 2: If I wanted to get out of there, you know,
Speaker 2: and if it wanted to get me, whatever this thing was,
Speaker 2: it would catch me. Then nobody's gonna know I'm gone
Speaker 2: until end of shooting light and my father in law
Speaker 2: comes by and sees I'm still there. He's would be like,
Speaker 2: well he should be out by now, what the heck happened?
Speaker 2: And that would be Rice seven PM or whenever shooting
Speaker 2: hours end, and then he gets in his gets the
Speaker 2: stuff together and heads back. So they had all these
Speaker 2: thoughts racing through my mind, and tuck myself back into
Speaker 2: my coat, made sure my gun was loaded, and just
Speaker 2: kind of waited to see what would happen. Finally, the
Speaker 2: sun started to come up. It'll be seven o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning abouts, and I finally had the courage to
Speaker 2: look back over to see if they were still there,
Speaker 2: and they weren't. By this time, cloud covered pretty much
Speaker 2: fully taken over the sky and you couldn't There's no
Speaker 2: orangish reddish glow like you'd see during sunrise in the sky.
Speaker 2: So like, okay, you know, like whatever it is, it's gone.
Speaker 2: It must have just been here to observe and went
Speaker 2: about its way. The rest of the morning and afternoon
Speaker 2: was pretty uneventful. I did have one more odd thing
Speaker 2: happened that day. The wind had changed directions from it
Speaker 2: was coming out of the north northwest. It was just
Speaker 2: a gentle breeze, and it thought a whiff of just
Speaker 2: smelled like urine at first, like bad, like something, And
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, oh, something must be dead up wind
Speaker 2: to me, But I mean I'd been hunting out there
Speaker 2: for at this point, probably a month straight through bo
Speaker 2: season and then in the gun season, so I mean,
Speaker 2: as far as I knew, nobody had shot anything that
Speaker 2: they didn't recover. It was like, you know, obviously things
Speaker 2: can die wherever. But it was also freezing. As far
Speaker 2: as I know, most things don't decay when it's below
Speaker 2: zero or blow freezing outside. So again I thought that
Speaker 2: was pretty weird. And it was just this faint smell.
Speaker 2: I remember taking big inhales trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: that smell was. Just like that, a few seconds and
Speaker 2: it was gone. That was pretty much the end of
Speaker 2: that for opening day. The following day, second day of
Speaker 2: opening weekends, we that Sunday, I stayed in the truck.
Speaker 2: My father in law went out his normal time pitch blackout,
Speaker 2: and I was like, nope, I can't do it again
Speaker 2: because if whatever is out there is out there again,
Speaker 2: like that's gonna I don't want to go through that.
Speaker 2: So I wait in the truck until about half hour
Speaker 2: to sunrise, hopped on the four wheeler and went out
Speaker 2: got my stand. By that time, it was light enough
Speaker 2: I didn't need a flash slight walking in I had
Speaker 2: been sitting in my stand for probably an hour or two.
Speaker 2: I think it was around nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: I started hearing this weird sound to the southeast. At first,
Speaker 2: I was like, man, that's a really weird sounding bird.
Speaker 2: The more it made this sound out there, I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not a bird that I'm aware of. I've kind
Speaker 2: of dabble a little bit in the backyard birds, and
Speaker 2: you know, We've got a few different bird feeders at
Speaker 2: the house, and I've seen all kinds of things, and
Speaker 2: I've heard the whipper wheels in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: And I'm not an expert by any means, but I
Speaker 2: know my stuff for the most all Right. The more
Speaker 2: I listened to the sound, it went from the southeast
Speaker 2: and then it kind of moved off. It was moving
Speaker 2: to its west, so it would be like it started
Speaker 2: at my southeast and then moved more to the south.
Speaker 2: I heard it really loud and clear one time, and
Speaker 2: it was this whoo. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I think that's a whoop. And I've never heard this
Speaker 2: sound other than recordings and people's accounts. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: I need to record this because nobody's gonna believe me. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know you're hearing these weird sounds out in the woods.
Speaker 2: But I got my phone out and I recorded a
Speaker 2: few of the loudest ones that I got. I actually
Speaker 2: cleaned up the audio and I think I threw it
Speaker 2: in the email I sent to you. If not, I've
Speaker 2: got it recorded and saved on my computer here too.
Speaker 2: It's so incredibly faint you almost need headphones to really
Speaker 2: hear it clearly, but I got I think two or
Speaker 2: three of them recorded in the clip.
Speaker 1: O m hm hm m.
Speaker 2: M shortly after. I guess it was more during the
Speaker 2: entire time I could hear this sound. All the dogs
Speaker 2: in the entire area were going nuts, like everywhere. And
Speaker 2: I've never really heard dogs bark out there very often.
Speaker 2: You know, the occasional one if somebody is out there
Speaker 2: shooting guns or there's machinery work in logging that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, you'll hear them kind of barking a few times.
Speaker 2: But this was different. This was like constant. Every dog
Speaker 2: in every direction was just not happy with this sound.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just the weirdest thing. That I
Speaker 2: even texted my father in law because he was further
Speaker 2: back in the woods than I was, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you hear that sound? And I kind of described
Speaker 2: it and he's like, no, I don't hear anything. But
Speaker 2: I mean he's half deaf, so it was kind of
Speaker 2: a long shot in my opinion. He's like, it's probably
Speaker 2: somebody doing a deer drive. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: if you're doing a deer drive, most of the guys
Speaker 2: that i've heard of that do those, they like yell
Speaker 2: and shout because you're trying to get the deer scared
Speaker 2: and kick them up, get them running. But doing the
Speaker 2: same sound over and over again, I don't know. That
Speaker 2: doesn't seem likely to me. To describe the sound. It
Speaker 2: was almost like a feminine voice was doing it. It
Speaker 2: didn't sound deep. It was very high pitch. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was pretty much it for this past gun season. Into
Speaker 2: it a few more times that we can no other
Speaker 2: strange smells or sounds or sites or anything like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that wraps up my personal experiences. I've got some other
Speaker 2: stuff that I can go into if you know, we've
Speaker 2: got the time or patients. So I work in it
Speaker 2: part of my job. I'm kind of in it. People
Speaker 2: will understand this. I wear many hats. I do a
Speaker 2: lot of different things that may be vaguely related to it.
Speaker 2: So I installed a security camera system in a property
Speaker 2: down in Florida. After installing it, these cameras are equipped
Speaker 2: with motion sensors, the spotlights, and all those fancy add ons,
Speaker 2: So one day at work, I was tweaking the settings
Speaker 2: with the motion sensor, because you know, you don't want
Speaker 2: these things clicking on and off because a bug goes
Speaker 2: by or whatever. You want to make sure they're dialed
Speaker 2: in and not just wasting storage based on clips that
Speaker 2: you don't need. So I was messing with these cameras,
Speaker 2: started to hear just these really weird sounds, rhythmic grunting sound,
Speaker 2: almost like somebody was going all night long. And it
Speaker 2: was really strange. You know, I'm born and raised in
Speaker 2: north central Illinois and eventually moved up here to Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: and I'm by no means a Florida native, and they've
Speaker 2: got some pretty strange stuff down there as far as
Speaker 2: animals go, and invasive and exotic species. So it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, So I, you know, I keep hearing
Speaker 2: these sounds over and over again every time I'm checking
Speaker 2: the motion detections and tweaking the settings, and I'm just like, man,
Speaker 2: this is really weird stuff going on down there. Well,
Speaker 2: one time when the recordings was triggered as a motion
Speaker 2: detection and I was looking at it three am, almost
Speaker 2: on the notes, the infrared on the camera went out,
Speaker 2: just clicked off, like the was switched off, like you
Speaker 2: can hear it click. It just stayed off for the
Speaker 2: rest of the night until night vision was no longer necessary.
Speaker 2: And the whole time I could hear stuff like breaking branches,
Speaker 2: heavy footsteps. It's just the strangest thing. I think that
Speaker 2: I'd on them cameras and up to this point, so
Speaker 2: it's just like, man, that's crazy. And a little side
Speaker 2: note about this property is it's more like a cabin
Speaker 2: set up where there's people there during the day, but
Speaker 2: nobody lives there full time. So you know, if something
Speaker 2: wanted to wander through the woods, you're pretty much full
Speaker 2: place to yourself. Probably a couple hundred acres part of
Speaker 2: this property, it's mostly I call it like logging land,
Speaker 2: so it's all just like binds, kind of overgrown shrubs
Speaker 2: underneath of them, that kind of stuff. Finally, one time
Speaker 2: I was checking first motion detections. I'm watching this clip
Speaker 2: to see where the motion detection is. I see this
Speaker 2: like quick flash and then I hear a thunk, like
Speaker 2: something hits the gutter that the camera's next to. It
Speaker 2: was like, what the heck was at? So I rewatched
Speaker 2: this thing, and rewatch it and I download the HD version.
Speaker 2: I watch it a few more times and looks like
Speaker 2: something pops out from behind the tree that this camera
Speaker 2: is facing towards and throws a rock at the camera,
Speaker 2: like you can see almost like an arm pop out.
Speaker 2: The rock flies up, bounces off into flecks off the
Speaker 2: gutter and lands on the ground. That was when I
Speaker 2: was like, it was, you know, sometime early morning on
Speaker 2: a weekend. I can check the cameras. There's no cars,
Speaker 2: there's nobody there, so what the heck throws a rock
Speaker 2: from behind a tree to hit this camera? And at
Speaker 2: this time they'd only been there I think for a
Speaker 2: month or so, so it's almost like something or someone
Speaker 2: was curious, like what the heck is that? And it's
Speaker 2: like throwing stuff at it? What's it going to do?
Speaker 2: I have that clip saved, I unfortunately can't share it
Speaker 2: because it's on private property that I don't own. It's
Speaker 2: one of those crappy situations. But I've shown it to
Speaker 2: close friends and family and they're like, Wes, that's weird whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that property has definitely got some weird
Speaker 2: activity on it. I've got several other recordings After that point,
Speaker 2: I started downloading the full nights with the audio and
Speaker 2: then go through it, scrum through it quickly. It was
Speaker 2: originally using Audacity, and then I moved over to Adobe Audition.
Speaker 2: It's got a lot more bells and whistles, way more
Speaker 2: than I'm capable of currently, but yeah, I'm trying so again.
Speaker 2: Tons of clips. I've got probably a dozen or so.
Speaker 2: I've actually put a bunch of them on YouTube. I
Speaker 2: put some of the raw recordings on SoundCloud as well.
Speaker 2: If anything like that interests anybody, I can share that
Speaker 2: information as well.
Speaker 1: I definitely got the stuff that you sent over from SoundCloud.
Speaker 1: I will insert it for you guys here so you
Speaker 1: guys can hear some of the whoops and some of
Speaker 1: the vocalizations that you've recorded on the audio. It's definitely interesting. Oh,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to a couple of things
Speaker 1: in your original experiences. I had Carter Bouchard on a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and Carter was talking to me
Speaker 1: about the very same thing. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: was on Sasquatch Chronicles as well, but Carter and I
Speaker 1: talked about that and his theory about these things being
Speaker 1: able to count and counting people as they come and
Speaker 1: go in certain situations. Can you talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more specifically about the knocks or the sounds that you
Speaker 1: were hearing, because I want to get a little bit
Speaker 1: more detail in that, because I don't think these things
Speaker 1: are using wood on wood. I don't think they're using
Speaker 1: rocks on wood. I think they're using their mouth to
Speaker 1: make these sounds. I could be wrong. It's just a theory, obviously,
Speaker 1: have no frickin clue. It's all subjective when it comes
Speaker 1: to bigfoot. But I think they're using mouth pops or
Speaker 1: some sort of clicks or something with their tongue to
Speaker 1: make these sounds. Can you describe what it was that
Speaker 1: you were hearing and maybe even talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about your theory. Do you think it's possible these things
Speaker 1: are using their mouth versus using a stick or a
Speaker 1: rock to hit a tree. Stay tuned for more Sasquat
Speaker 1: chatta see, we'll be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's the best way I phone to describe that sound
Speaker 2: is it was almost like something hitting like a rotten
Speaker 2: lug or something not like that dry pine branch on
Speaker 2: dry pine branch that you hear. I've actually heard one
Speaker 2: of those two recently, but that's a different story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the best way I can describe it. It was
Speaker 2: just like a solid object hitting a rotten tree. It
Speaker 2: was just, you know, it's such a unique sound you
Speaker 2: almost can't describe it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely get it. I heard that. I went
Speaker 1: out on expedition with Todd Standing back in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three up in his radium research area, and I heard
Speaker 1: multiple wood knocks over the course of those seven days.
Speaker 1: And it is very difficult to describe if you haven't
Speaker 1: heard it, but it is very much like taking a
Speaker 1: baseball bat and hitting a solid tree. That's at least
Speaker 1: what I was experiencing. Can you talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about what you've heard most recently with that really clear pop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my wife's grandparents recently moved up here,
Speaker 2: not too far to probably fifteen minutes down the highway
Speaker 2: from us. Her grandpa's car wasn't starting and they wanted
Speaker 2: me to come take a look at it. So I did.
Speaker 2: I got my stuff and I headed over there with
Speaker 2: the dog. We got there, I shut the engine off.
Speaker 2: You know, I opened my door, I took step out
Speaker 2: of my car, and clear as day, as soon as
Speaker 2: I stood up out of the car, I heard that,
Speaker 2: plain as day. So I was like shocked me. I
Speaker 2: was like, really, you know, it could have been anything,
Speaker 2: but it seems so liberate, almost like a there's someone
Speaker 2: here kind of thing. And I looked over where I
Speaker 2: heard it. You know, the grandparents are inside, They're not
Speaker 2: out there trapesing around in the woods knocking on trees.
Speaker 2: So it is just very strange. The place they live.
Speaker 2: They rent the home. It's on a good amount of
Speaker 2: acreage and backs up to another large wetlands kind of
Speaker 2: wooded area as well behind that. So I mean pretty
Speaker 2: much anybody who's been up here in Northwesternconsin knows like
Speaker 2: there's not any really major cities besides Superior. It's mostly
Speaker 2: woods and swamps, and if anything wanted to hide, then
Speaker 2: this would be the place to do it in this state.
Speaker 1: I also want to go back justin to the incident
Speaker 1: where you were out hunting and you saw what appears
Speaker 1: to me at least to be a couple of sets
Speaker 1: of eyes. And I certainly don't want to put words
Speaker 1: in your mouth, but I want to talk specifically about
Speaker 1: that because there's been so many accounts that I have
Speaker 1: taken over the years of people who have seen this
Speaker 1: what people call eyeshine, but it sounds like to me again,
Speaker 1: and I want to clarify this for the audience. Was
Speaker 1: what you seeing eye shine in your opinion or was
Speaker 1: this some sort of a self illuminating type.
Speaker 2: Of eye It was glowing. This wasn't eye shine, Like
Speaker 2: in my mind, in order to get eye shine, you
Speaker 2: would need a light source pointing at it. I've got dogs,
Speaker 2: three cats, you get the creepy eyes from them all
Speaker 2: the time. This wasn't that there was no light illuminating
Speaker 2: that would have caused it to shine. The color it
Speaker 2: was just so bizarre. I know bart owls have kind
Speaker 2: of that orange color in their eye shine, but the
Speaker 2: eyes were further apart than any bart owl that I've
Speaker 2: ever seen. I've seen them up close. They've walked right
Speaker 2: underneath of them in trees and looked straight up at them.
Speaker 2: I love birds prey, but yeah, these were definitely seemed
Speaker 2: like they were glowing.
Speaker 1: I asked that specifically because I've documented it so many
Speaker 1: times on the show and people that I've had conversations
Speaker 1: with when I've been at speaking events or book signings.
Speaker 1: People tell me their stories all the time, and I
Speaker 1: have had an experience last year. It's crazy to say
Speaker 1: last year, but it is January third as we record this,
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. I was out in the Pacific
Speaker 1: Northwest filming a documentary last year and I'm under an NBA,
Speaker 1: so I still can't really talk about this. Hopefully in
Speaker 1: the next couple of months that I'll be over with
Speaker 1: and I can give people the full scope of what
Speaker 1: happened in those experiences. But I experienced something in the
Speaker 1: woods where we saw and I say we because there
Speaker 1: was tons of people in the woods with me, the
Speaker 1: filming crew and then the other folks that were part
Speaker 1: of this expedition slash documentary that I was filming. Saw
Speaker 1: self illuminating, two sets of self illuminating eyes, and they
Speaker 1: were bright white light. That's the only way I can
Speaker 1: describe it. These things drop down to the ground at
Speaker 1: some point. Then after that happened, we had some of
Speaker 1: the things and other experiences that solidified to me. It
Speaker 1: absolutely proved to me what was happening during experience. I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you, just about everybody that I've ever
Speaker 1: interviewed and or had conversations with, whether it's an external
Speaker 1: or internal, it's an eye roll when they say, oh,
Speaker 1: this thing had glowing eyes. It wasn't eyeshine, it was glowing,
Speaker 1: And I feel like such an asshole because I felt
Speaker 1: that so many times having conversations with folks, and then
Speaker 1: I experienced it for myself. So I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the most fascinating parts of this phenomenon that obviously
Speaker 1: we're seeking the answers to the other thing that you
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and I certainly want to talk about this
Speaker 1: is the telepathic communication that the mind speak that so
Speaker 1: many people have talked about. I had Less on the
Speaker 1: show a couple of years ago, and Less shared several
Speaker 1: experiences with me on the show about his telepathic communication
Speaker 1: that he believes that he received from Sasquatch. I'm actually
Speaker 1: planning an expedition in twenty twenty five, and I'm going
Speaker 1: out with Less for a couple of days. At some
Speaker 1: point in time, I'm definitely going to press him on
Speaker 1: this and get some more details when we're face to face,
Speaker 1: sitting around the fire, hopefully smoking a cigar and having
Speaker 1: some bourbon. I don't know that may or may not
Speaker 1: be part of that, but I'm definitely going to press
Speaker 1: him on this because it's something that he's made no
Speaker 1: qualms about talking about. But there's so many people who
Speaker 1: dismiss that, and I'll be honest, I'm a flesh and
Speaker 1: Blood I'm an aper. If there is a place to
Speaker 1: plant your flag, I think I certainly publicly, for years now,
Speaker 1: planted my flag in the Flesh and Blood camp. But
Speaker 1: just before we got on, I was literally working on
Speaker 1: an upcoming episode where I'm narrating some different articles on
Speaker 1: the subject and talking about some of the weirder things
Speaker 1: that happen with this phenomenon. Is it something completely different
Speaker 1: or do these creatures have some sort of abilities that
Speaker 1: we're not aware of. Let me ask you this, where
Speaker 1: are you on this possibility of telepathic communication with these
Speaker 1: creatures and some of the other things like the glowing eyes,
Speaker 1: that would certainly be something way outside of what we
Speaker 1: know of normal animal behavior.
Speaker 2: So they've had some pretty off the wall theories. But
Speaker 2: you were sitting here talking about bigfoot online, So what
Speaker 2: can we call weird?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: I just a thought I had recently when I was
Speaker 2: trying to find an explanation of why something would be
Speaker 2: glowing when you would assume that your optical receptors would
Speaker 2: not be emitting something because they need to receive it.
Speaker 2: Right Prior to really getting into the whole subject of
Speaker 2: bigfoot sassquatch UFOs, I wasn't really a spiritual person by
Speaker 2: any means or whatever you'd consider. It's how people talk
Speaker 2: about how we all have like an aura, and there's
Speaker 2: psychics some people out there that claim they see people's
Speaker 2: auras and colors around individuals. My off the wall theory
Speaker 2: for it is, what if that's what they're reflecting. What
Speaker 2: if it is eyeshine and it's reflecting off of our
Speaker 2: light that we are emitting. So we see all these
Speaker 2: different colors in the woods, and you've heard the red screens, blues, orange, red,
Speaker 2: you know all of these are As far as I
Speaker 2: know this is off of my fifteen minute Google search,
Speaker 2: that's what's being reflected back at us. People see more.
Speaker 2: I seem to hear more about the red glowing eyes
Speaker 2: than anything. What if that's just the type of person
Speaker 2: the people that go out in the woods are more
Speaker 2: prone to have this red or or something like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's kind of my
Speaker 2: thought process behind that. Again, could be totally wrong. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything about that world of psychic things like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and then as far as the telepathy goes, again,
Speaker 2: no clue how it would even be possible. I think
Speaker 2: there are things that we as humans are capable of
Speaker 2: that we don't know we're capable of, or there's been
Speaker 2: abilities that we have that have just been lost throughout
Speaker 2: the years of not needing to use it. Right, So
Speaker 2: if you don't use it, you lose it. Or is
Speaker 2: it we're just capable of receiving telepathic thoughts as opposed
Speaker 2: to sending and receiving or you know, there has to
Speaker 2: be a certain genetic sequence linked together in your body
Speaker 2: in an individual that allows you to do these things
Speaker 2: off the wall thought. My theory is recently, it was
Speaker 2: sometime early last year I heard about Bob Blazaar and
Speaker 2: I listened to most of it. I can't remember fills
Speaker 2: the full original interview or not, or somebody had posted
Speaker 2: a video and read it about it. I watched it,
Speaker 2: and in one of his things he talks about he
Speaker 2: talks about these briefings that were written by other people
Speaker 2: who had investigated UFO crash sites and had allegedly had
Speaker 2: conversations with extraterrestrials and stuff like that he had told
Speaker 2: them or he had read that human beings as we
Speaker 2: are today are a result of sixty five genetic trials,
Speaker 2: So who's to say we're the final product. For some reason,
Speaker 2: they stopped with us, that things like Sasquatch wasn't the precursor.
Speaker 2: Say they got the Florida skunk cape and they're like, no,
Speaker 2: this one's too this, or that we need more of
Speaker 2: this DNA. The way I see it, the only way
Speaker 2: a civilization or species could get to the advancement that
Speaker 2: extraterrestrials would be in is to not have a code
Speaker 2: of ethics.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You have to just throw everything out. You have to
Speaker 2: have no emotion, no ethics. You just do things for
Speaker 2: the progression of society. While we as humans have a
Speaker 2: code of ethics for the most part, we can't do
Speaker 2: those or we don't do those things because it's imral,
Speaker 2: it's wrong. You can't just use people for human experiments.
Speaker 2: That's horrifying. So if they don't have a code of
Speaker 2: ethics and they can make these horrible abominations and then
Speaker 2: they end up with these things, they're like, well, what
Speaker 2: do we do with them? And they just dump them
Speaker 2: here on Earth or whatever, terminate the species, whatever happens
Speaker 2: to them. That's kind of what makes most sense to
Speaker 2: me is, Yeah, it's some outside horses are playing with
Speaker 2: things and either leaving them here on earth or originating
Speaker 2: them here.
Speaker 1: Very interesting theory. I was just writing for our newsletter.
Speaker 1: I have a weekly newsletter that I put out, the
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Weekly Newsletter. For folks that aren't signed up, there's
Speaker 1: a button right here in the show notes. I got
Speaker 1: to just click it and you can sign up and
Speaker 1: get newsletter. I was writing an article that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put out on Sunday for the newsletter. That's one of
Speaker 1: the things I was addressing there. Again, I'm a very
Speaker 1: flesh and blood kind of guy, but I can't deny
Speaker 1: some of these extraordinary superabilities that these creatures seem to have,
Speaker 1: and I try to address that as much as I
Speaker 1: can rationally, but sometimes it just all that rationale goes
Speaker 1: out the window when it comes to Bigfoot because there
Speaker 1: are so many theories and there are so many things
Speaker 1: out there, So let's go down that rabbit hole a
Speaker 1: little bit further. It sounds like to me, you're open
Speaker 1: to the fact that they're created by extraterrestrials, or there's
Speaker 1: at least some connection there for extraterrestrials. Here's the problem
Speaker 1: I have as a flesh and blood apor kind of
Speaker 1: guy when it comes to the subject. So many times,
Speaker 1: what I experienced when I had my sightings and my
Speaker 1: encounters last year was a very physical, flesh and blood experience.
Speaker 1: There was something large there. I saw it, I heard it.
Speaker 1: I would argue that I felt it on the some
Speaker 1: wavering I'm over five hundred plus episodes into Sasquatch Odyssey.
Speaker 1: I probably interviewed over one thousand people for the show
Speaker 1: at this point. By and large, most of the experiences
Speaker 1: people have with these things are what would be considered
Speaker 1: flesh and blood. They're crossing the road, they're carrying a deer,
Speaker 1: they're crossing a field, very flesh and blood known behaviors
Speaker 1: of other animals that are known to science, and then
Speaker 1: there's orbs, and there's glowing eyes, and then there's all
Speaker 1: of this high strangers. I've even interviewed a guy who
Speaker 1: claims to have seen what he believes to be an
Speaker 1: alien craft and a sasquatch getting off of the ship.
Speaker 1: That is as close as you can possibly get to
Speaker 1: an alien connection to this. So I ask you again,
Speaker 1: it's all subjective, but where are you on that? How
Speaker 1: do you reconcile that in your brain having had your
Speaker 1: experiences just a simple vocalization or a tree knock that's
Speaker 1: a very physical interaction with these things. How do you
Speaker 1: rationalize that in your brain? Let all that rattle around.
Speaker 1: Where do you come out on the other end about
Speaker 1: some of these very physical things that people describe versus
Speaker 1: some of the very wu or high strangeness experiences that
Speaker 1: some people have.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're a spiritual thing. They're very much
Speaker 2: less and blood as far as I'm concerned. If my
Speaker 2: theory was correct that they were created much like we were,
Speaker 2: then they're just here like we are, except they want
Speaker 2: nothing to do with us because of the atrocities that
Speaker 2: they've seen us commit against each other. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: to their species, as we've heard from or at least
Speaker 2: I've heard on other podcasts and episodes about military encounters
Speaker 2: and people being sent out to eliminate these things in
Speaker 2: the woods. So yeah, I still think they're bless and blood.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're out here flying spaceships around and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. That's a simply complex kind of explanation.
Speaker 2: If that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more Sasquatch out toesy. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages. It does, and it's certainly the
Speaker 1: best explanation I feel you can give, because honestly, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, nobody knows about these things
Speaker 1: outside of your own personal experiences. Everything else that we
Speaker 1: talk about is subjective. I've had my own experiences that
Speaker 1: I certainly can't explain. I know that I've seen these creatures.
Speaker 1: Now I've moved from the are they real? Where I
Speaker 1: was so many years on the fence back and forth.
Speaker 1: Do these things actually exist? Or is everybody having some
Speaker 1: sort of mass hallucination or making these stories up to
Speaker 1: absolutely knowing they're real. Now I'm stuck on the fact
Speaker 1: of I want to know what they are. I want
Speaker 1: to know why we can't find them the way that
Speaker 1: science needs us to find them, because there's definitely nobody
Speaker 1: that can sit back and say sasquatch is an undiscovered species. Sure,
Speaker 1: by scientific standards, it is undiscovered, but thousands of people,
Speaker 1: I would argue, over the course of our recorded history,
Speaker 1: probably tens of thousands of people have had encounters with
Speaker 1: what I've believe to be sasquatched. So they're undiscovered by science,
Speaker 1: but we see them and people experience them on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. So that is really where I've shifted my
Speaker 1: focus to is I want to know what these creatures are,
Speaker 1: and why it is that they are so elusive, and
Speaker 1: why can't we figure out what they are where they
Speaker 1: are the majority of the time. So there's so many
Speaker 1: things that I am now focusing on, but it all
Speaker 1: boils down for people like you to come on and
Speaker 1: share their experiences. That is some of the most amazing
Speaker 1: data I believe that we have is the anecdotal experiences
Speaker 1: from people very much like you, who really don't have
Speaker 1: a dog in the fight when it comes to bigfoot.
Speaker 1: You're just a deer hunter. You're out trying to get
Speaker 1: sustenance for your family, and you have these weird ass
Speaker 1: experiences that you can't explain. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the most compelling things about this Now, if you're a
Speaker 1: bigfoot researcher like me and you go out and have
Speaker 1: it experience, people cock their head to the side and go, oh,
Speaker 1: what's up with this guy? But a deer hunter comes
Speaker 1: forward and says, I had this really weird experience that
Speaker 1: I can't explain. I think that really goes a long
Speaker 1: way and helping validate the subject for so many people
Speaker 1: who have had experiences over the years that people frankly
Speaker 1: don't believe. So I appreciate you very much coming on
Speaker 1: justin and sharing your experiences and talking to me today. Man,
Speaker 1: I've had a blast talking to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been fun. He was definitely excited and both
Speaker 2: nervous to come on today. One final thing I have.
Speaker 2: Somebody actually posted a video and one of the paranormal
Speaker 2: subreddits out there, so it was sixteen days ago. It
Speaker 2: looks like of something in a tree that looks nearly
Speaker 2: identical to what I saw. Granted this thing's moving more.
Speaker 2: I can throw you the link in the chat here
Speaker 2: or something so you can take a look at it
Speaker 2: or share it or whatever you want to do. Freaked
Speaker 2: me out. I was like, there's no way. How could
Speaker 2: somebody else see what I saw? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: They say you don't have a go, but you cast stay.
Speaker 3: Where all happens. Said, step stays, step child, this child,
Speaker 3: that child? Everything? Can you ride back right back? Joy
Speaker 3: from me? Enjoy staying right you come in right away,
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