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<v Speaker 1>Yea ripped up news need advice so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>Come running just astas as a cam shooter's gonna help come.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 4>No Tom Martino, Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Three oh three seven one three talks seven one three

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<v Speaker 6>eight two five five. Joined with my peeps at the studio.

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<v Speaker 6>That is Mark and I see some deputies there.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark, take it away. Who's there? What's going on today?

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<v Speaker 7>Shamadski.

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<v Speaker 8>We got Matt Stanford, Paragon, Genesis, Total Exteriors. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be talking insurance claims, how insurance companies attempt.

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<v Speaker 7>To rip you off.

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<v Speaker 8>We got Deputy Bow, Suzanne Kelly, and then some kind

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<v Speaker 8>of ugly guy on the other side of the glass.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, it's uh. I want to I want to be

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<v Speaker 6>the first one to say, is this legal?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you sing? Happy birthday?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh gosh, Tom, We've got a birthday grow in the house.

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<v Speaker 7>You could do it like they do it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's do it. Let's do Happy Happy birthday to you,

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<v Speaker 5>Happy birthday to.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy, Happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>Dear glory to Kelly story, Happy birthday to turn man,

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<v Speaker 5>just turning forty, just checking forty fifty five. Actually, thanks

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<v Speaker 5>for the crow. All right, Well, anyway, I always round up,

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<v Speaker 5>so I actually don't know how old I am.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, how well, it's not it's not it's not polite

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<v Speaker 6>tasking age. I don't know why it's not polite. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't and I never did understand that. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's like, so anyway, let's go to the phones. But

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<v Speaker 6>first talk about actually we should just talk about things

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<v Speaker 6>happening in the news and listen. I don't normally talk

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<v Speaker 6>about stuff like this, well not in this regard, but

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<v Speaker 6>this thing with let me just bring this up. This

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<v Speaker 6>news story. It went under the radar. There was actually

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<v Speaker 6>listen to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know the US AID that took you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the us AID was aid all over the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we were paying for studying the mating habits of tens

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<v Speaker 5>in a foreign country. I mean, I'm just exaggerating, But

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<v Speaker 5>listen to this.

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<v Speaker 6>During all of this investigation going on, they found a

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<v Speaker 6>US AID contracting officer, Roderick Watson.

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<v Speaker 5>It's real.

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<v Speaker 6>He pleaded guilty to running a ten year long bribery

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<v Speaker 6>scheme that steered more than five hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 6>dollars in federal contracts to associates of his.

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<v Speaker 5>This is real.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I have not heard one newscast with us

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<v Speaker 6>This just happened the other day. And he got more

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<v Speaker 6>than a million dollars over the years in cash and gifts.

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<v Speaker 6>The contracts were awarded under the you know, the USAID

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<v Speaker 6>program to help minority and women own businesses, and it

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<v Speaker 6>was supposed to be non competitive set aside contracts. So

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<v Speaker 6>the thought with USAID was that these places when it

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<v Speaker 6>comes to government contracts, this was specific. There are others

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<v Speaker 6>that have to do with charity, with medical research, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know, that's where some of the liberals are saying

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<v Speaker 6>Conservatives are causing a mass death over their cutbacks.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>And in any case, I'm not talking about USA in

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<v Speaker 6>general or all of the wasted money, but this particular one.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what I find shocking.

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<v Speaker 6>If this guy was a Republican, If this guy was

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<v Speaker 6>doing it under.

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<v Speaker 5>A Republican rule. Now, part of it was under Trump, but.

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<v Speaker 6>It was mainly you know, I think Clinton, it was

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<v Speaker 6>Barack Obama under Bush.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of it took place.

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<v Speaker 6>Was Bush just sleeping basically, I mean, what was he

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<v Speaker 6>doing anyway? Okay, the scheme started in twenty thirteen and

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<v Speaker 6>involved companies putting in contracts and then the bribes were

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<v Speaker 6>funneled through various means, including some of the bribes were

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<v Speaker 6>jobs for relatives, electronics for his home, home, down payments,

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<v Speaker 6>and loans. Prosecutors and DOJ officials condemned the fraud obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>But what I don't understand. Does it shock you that

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<v Speaker 6>this hasn't been in the news.

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<v Speaker 10>I hap.

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<v Speaker 5>I happened to run across it.

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<v Speaker 6>In one of these fringe sights and then started doing

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<v Speaker 6>research and found it's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you look them up, you'll find it.

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<v Speaker 6>Roderick Wasson, you know Mark, we often talked about taking

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<v Speaker 6>the penalty for the crime on purpose.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember what's the clown's name? He went to

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<v Speaker 5>his eyes? What is Don?

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<v Speaker 6>Ailey was an accountant who just literally ripped people off.

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<v Speaker 6>He would get a client and he'd do their payroll

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<v Speaker 6>and instead of paying payroll taxes, he just told the

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<v Speaker 6>client he paid them. He told the irs that the

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<v Speaker 6>client had no payroll, so the client would pay Ailey.

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<v Speaker 6>Iley would just pocket the money and we figured about

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<v Speaker 6>twenty million.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he went to prison. Is he had a prison yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know Mark?

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<v Speaker 8>Now I think he hung himself or killed himself or

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<v Speaker 8>off himself or whatever you want to.

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<v Speaker 6>He Oh, is he deceased, Oh, he's deceased. There were

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<v Speaker 6>so many people hurt by him. Let's go to the folks,

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<v Speaker 6>jill an issue.

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<v Speaker 8>You forgot hold on, hold on, you forgot to finish

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<v Speaker 8>the point to conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, go ahead, go ahead and finish the point with calculations.

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<v Speaker 8>When this guy went to federal prison. One of the

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<v Speaker 8>reasons they gave him I think they gave them twelve years.

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<v Speaker 8>And remember this is an economic crime. That's pretty high

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<v Speaker 8>for an economic crime, so they gave him the upper echelon.

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<v Speaker 8>But the reason was the twelve million dollars that was

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<v Speaker 8>definitely missing. It was probably more like twenty, but twelve

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<v Speaker 8>that was definitely missing had never been found. In other words,

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<v Speaker 8>none of the cash was there. So I brought up, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>ten years in prison. It's federal, so you automatically get

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<v Speaker 8>twenty percent. That brings it down to eight years in prison.

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<v Speaker 8>Eight years in prison, you get out. You have twelve

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<v Speaker 8>million bucks. You make one point two million dollars a

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<v Speaker 8>year for sitting your ass in the can?

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<v Speaker 7>Would you do it? That was the question.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm wondering if there are people, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 6>now you'd probably even get less time done.

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<v Speaker 8>This is Martha Stewart Prison. This ain't someplace in New

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<v Speaker 8>York or you know. This is Martha's Stewart Prison.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it's amazing. So we we were bantering that around.

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<v Speaker 6>Would you take a million dollars a year to sit in?

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<v Speaker 10>Point?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you? Mark Schamansky? A million a year one point

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<v Speaker 7>two a year for eight years?

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<v Speaker 10>Eight years? That's tough. I don't think I could do.

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<v Speaker 7>It now, that's a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>The eight years is hard.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe if you got it down to two or three

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I I rather have my chances on the outside making money.

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<v Speaker 6>What about your deputy.

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<v Speaker 11>D Yeah, no chance. I don't want to give up

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<v Speaker 11>eight years of my life. Even at Martha Stewart's prison.

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<v Speaker 11>It sounds like a really nice place.

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<v Speaker 7>I heard that you get free reach arounds.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude, Look, hey, Mark, did you did you? Can we sit? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish I had a delay, but never mind, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not even going to repeat it. But that one right

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<v Speaker 6>over Shannon's head unless it doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 6>You could scratch somebody's back or yeah, okay, So anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>let's continue with this worker's compting that we didn't even

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<v Speaker 6>start gl talk.

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<v Speaker 5>To us about the workers com problem.

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<v Speaker 6>What I like you to do is just start and

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<v Speaker 6>then I'll ask questions.

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<v Speaker 12>All right, Well, here's the deal. My wife fell at

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<v Speaker 12>work back to the beginning of the month.

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<v Speaker 5>Just this, just at the beginning of June.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, okay, good, I'm glad we're getting this early.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, yeah, she works at the airport. She slipped and fell.

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<v Speaker 12>There's still not one hundred percent sure how she slipped

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<v Speaker 12>because she wears flip resistant shoes, but there was multiple

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<v Speaker 12>witnesses to it. Anyhow, she was taken to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 13>X rays were done.

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<v Speaker 12>She has a fractured ankle and left or excuse me, right,

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<v Speaker 12>and multiple stress fractures of her right foot. Ctcands have been.

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<v Speaker 5>Done the orthopay Mark Mark, do you recall?

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<v Speaker 6>I want to ask Major Mark, Major Mark, do you recall?

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<v Speaker 6>Does the HL theory apply for workers comp You get

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<v Speaker 6>your worker the way you have them, and if they're

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<v Speaker 7>Then No, not really, not not really.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a lot different because you give up the right

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<v Speaker 7>So the rules also.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I mean is if his let's just say

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<v Speaker 6>his wife was frail and another woman is not free,

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<v Speaker 6>I know exactly what you mean it, I know, but

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<v Speaker 6>don't they both suffer if they both suffer the same fall,

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<v Speaker 6>do you have to pay more because a person was

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<v Speaker 6>frail or had pre existing injuries?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know the answer to that.

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<v Speaker 7>Work, the injury is going to be it.

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<v Speaker 8>Whatever the injuries are is going to be handled, regardless

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<v Speaker 8>if they were frailers.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you can keep going with your story. This is

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<v Speaker 5>we're just thinking out lots of other people.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, let's ask.

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<v Speaker 12>There's multiple there's multiple.

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<v Speaker 5>Parts to this, all right, but let's Lorna get one

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<v Speaker 5>at a time.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead. So so it's the beginning of June. Did

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<v Speaker 6>she filed workers comp right?

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<v Speaker 13>Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 10>Ohkay, got it?

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<v Speaker 12>She was taken to the University hospital. They did X

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<v Speaker 12>rays and whatnot, determined what what what what the deal was.

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<v Speaker 12>Ten days later she saw the orthopedic surgeon and they

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<v Speaker 12>took the cast off, did new X rays and then

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<v Speaker 12>put a new cast back on center for ct scam.

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<v Speaker 12>This past Tuesday, the Workman's comp insurance sent her to

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<v Speaker 12>see sent her to Concentra to see the regular workman's

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<v Speaker 12>comp doctor.

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<v Speaker 6>That's called a that's called an independent medical examiner. They're

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<v Speaker 6>they're not independent, They're often not qualified. I I hate

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<v Speaker 6>what the imes they call them so well, so she

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<v Speaker 6>was sent she was sent to an I M.

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<v Speaker 13>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>So he said that she is able to go back

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<v Speaker 12>to work as of course yesterday on her duty. Sure,

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<v Speaker 12>the orthopedic surgeon is on his report. He wants her

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<v Speaker 12>off work at least until the end of July, by

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<v Speaker 12>his statement or by everything he says. So when she

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<v Speaker 12>was there yesterday, saw our Tuesday, saw the other doctor.

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<v Speaker 12>One of the things I brought up, it was brought up,

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<v Speaker 12>is well number one, since it's her right foot ankle,

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<v Speaker 12>she can't drive, she is uncrutches, she's having extreme her Does.

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<v Speaker 5>Her surgeon say, yeah, and you don't have to sell

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<v Speaker 5>it to us. I mean, we're we take.

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<v Speaker 6>You out, you know, so we don't have to waste

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<v Speaker 6>that time. We're going to take for argument's sake. Everything

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<v Speaker 6>you're saying is true. She still has injury and pain

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<v Speaker 6>and misery and on a crutch. And did her surgeon though,

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<v Speaker 6>did her surgeon say she could work at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Or what? What was his actual recommendation?

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<v Speaker 12>He just wants her off her feet period? His recommend Well,

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<v Speaker 12>what what to do?

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<v Speaker 5>What to do? What to sit at home? What did

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<v Speaker 10>You?

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<v Speaker 6>You can't go out, you can't go to the supermarket,

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<v Speaker 12>I don't have the paperwork in front of me, but

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<v Speaker 12>he said it's non weight bearing four to six week.

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<v Speaker 5>We got it, okay, So keep going.

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<v Speaker 12>Then then what so her employer called yesterday afternoon, late

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<v Speaker 12>in the day and said, well, we think we can

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<v Speaker 12>make accommodations for you to come to work. She works

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<v Speaker 12>in a restaurant. He says, you know, we can get

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<v Speaker 5>Was she was she a service? Was she a server? No?

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<v Speaker 12>She just worked the counter.

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<v Speaker 5>All right? So, okay, keep going with the story. So

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<v Speaker 5>what's going on now here?

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<v Speaker 12>Here's so so, like I said, she cannot negotiate stairs

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<v Speaker 12>without assistance. Her employer, okay's for a bus.

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<v Speaker 14>Pass, but got it?

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<v Speaker 12>No way now to get back and forth to the

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<v Speaker 12>bus and on crutches. She's you know, it was one hundreds.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not part of the work. That's not part of

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<v Speaker 6>the Let me explain something to you. The only thing

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<v Speaker 6>how much work she can do, and if they accommodate her.

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<v Speaker 6>Now getting to in front of a bus and all

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<v Speaker 6>the other peripherals have nothing to do with the work

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<v Speaker 6>comp claim. And you can't say, for example, I can't

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<v Speaker 10>That's not an excuse.

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<v Speaker 6>If she can't get there for the light duty, they

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<v Speaker 6>can terminate her. Or here's something else people don't realize.

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<v Speaker 6>And I hope we get we can get cliff Enton on.

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<v Speaker 6>But here's another thing people don't realize, and that is

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<v Speaker 6>do any job and they can't accommodate her, they're not

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<v Speaker 6>forced to accommodate her. Hold on a second, Geoe, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to try to connect with this attorney. It gets

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<v Speaker 6>Hi Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show Man. We're

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<v Speaker 6>starting off with a bang here. Cliffenton, by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>our expert for workers comp and he also does personal injury.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll give you his contact info, but Cliff recommends you

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<v Speaker 6>talk to an attorney, even if you don't hire one

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<v Speaker 6>right away. You talk to him and get him on

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<v Speaker 6>board so they know what they're talking about and they're

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<v Speaker 6>familiar with the case. He'll take a few notes and

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<v Speaker 6>then if you need him and call him back, it's there. Hey, Cliff,

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<v Speaker 6>this one happens quite a bit. She was injured at

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<v Speaker 6>the beginning of March I'll excuse me, June.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a simple story.

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<v Speaker 6>She was injured and then she went to university hospital,

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<v Speaker 6>then to an ime.

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<v Speaker 5>The ime says she can return to light.

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<v Speaker 6>Duty right now, and her orthopedic surgeon, though, says she

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<v Speaker 6>should stay off her feet completely. So I need to

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<v Speaker 6>know what about conflicting reports? What does she do? Plus

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<v Speaker 6>she has a plethora of other problems that I don't

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<v Speaker 6>believe come into the claim, like she can't drive and

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<v Speaker 6>her ride would be difficult to get to get even

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<v Speaker 6>to the bus station is hard. Just a litany of

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<v Speaker 6>problems you hear every day. But Cliff, what about this case?

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<v Speaker 6>If one doctor says light to be, the other doctor

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<v Speaker 6>says she can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 16>Good morning, Tom, How are you good?

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<v Speaker 10>Cliff?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for being here. We certainly miss your voice.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 16>That is a very interesting question. It comes up more

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<v Speaker 16>than you would think. Yes, generally speaking, the opinion of

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<v Speaker 16>what's called the ATP, which stands for authorized Treating physician,

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<v Speaker 16>that's kind of the primary care physician on the work

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<v Speaker 16>comp case with Trump, that of a specialist. What I

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<v Speaker 16>would recommend and what we would do is we would

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<v Speaker 16>contact the adjuster, contact the insurance company and say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 16>you really need to be listening to the orthopedic doctor,

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<v Speaker 16>the expert, rather than the physiatrist or just the authorized

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<v Speaker 16>treating physician. Nothing that mandates them to go with the

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<v Speaker 16>one that's more favorable to the claimant.

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<v Speaker 14>That's not what the law is.

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<v Speaker 16>Can rely on the ATP, or if it was vice versa,

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<v Speaker 16>they could rely on the ATP.

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<v Speaker 6>So right now though that right now, the primary case

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<v Speaker 6>care I'll call it not you know, it might not

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<v Speaker 6>be his primary care doctor, but this primary doctor for

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<v Speaker 6>the case literally trump's the surgeon.

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<v Speaker 16>Yes, I mean someone's got a legally yes, as a

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<v Speaker 16>practical matter, most of the time, the primary care physician

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<v Speaker 16>or the ATP will listen.

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<v Speaker 10>To the surgeon.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, now here's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 16>Contact. We'd write a letter to the ATP and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 16>why are you disagree with doctor X. He's the board

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<v Speaker 16>certified orthopoxic Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So did your doctor? Did your attorney do anything like this?

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<v Speaker 5>Joe?

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<v Speaker 6>Did your attorney write a letter to get them to

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<v Speaker 6>talk or to find out why there's a discrepancy?

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<v Speaker 5>Did or do you not have an attorney yet? Is

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<v Speaker 5>he there?

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<v Speaker 6>I guess if he's not there, we can just move Geo, Geo, listen,

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<v Speaker 6>have you have you talked has your attorney talked to

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<v Speaker 6>the doctors? Okay? Now, okay. The fact that you haven't

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<v Speaker 6>talked to an attorney, and cliff Enton is one of

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<v Speaker 6>our preferred attorneys on referral list, I just want to

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<v Speaker 6>make it clear that that what he does here is

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<v Speaker 6>free of charge. But if you want to retain him,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a separate issue altogether. But he's a great attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to be transparent about that. We're not

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<v Speaker 6>on trying to get you to hire him. He's just

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<v Speaker 6>giving you information with no obligation. So jeou right now,

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<v Speaker 6>you haven't talked to anyone really about the discrepancy. You

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<v Speaker 6>didn't ask the surgeon. Hey, my other doctor says she

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<v Speaker 6>can do like duty. Did you did you actually have

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<v Speaker 6>a conversation with either doc?

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<v Speaker 12>So she saw the the iam as you call it,

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<v Speaker 12>on tuesday, she saw the orthopedics last week. That's when

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<v Speaker 12>he said that she needed to be off of her

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<v Speaker 12>feet five four to six weeks, but she needed to

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<v Speaker 12>be stay.

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<v Speaker 5>Off of it. Now, did you go back to the employer.

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<v Speaker 6>Did the employer say that they could give her light

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<v Speaker 6>duty off.

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<v Speaker 17>Her feet, not until yesterday. And what was the final

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<v Speaker 17>word yet? Just get to that, okay, I don't want

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<v Speaker 17>to recap everything. What was the final word from the

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<v Speaker 17>employer yesterday as far as light duty staying off her feet?

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<v Speaker 12>All they said was, well, we can find you a

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<v Speaker 12>chair maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, she This is my opinion. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>Cliff will say.

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<v Speaker 6>My opinion is she shows up ready for work, and

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<v Speaker 6>if she can do it, she does it.

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<v Speaker 5>And if they don't accommodate her, then she can't do it.

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<v Speaker 6>Cliff, wouldn't that be the safe thing to do so

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<v Speaker 6>she doesn't get terminated?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, because the real danger is, well, hey, if they're

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<v Speaker 16>making a job offer of modified duty, they have to

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<v Speaker 16>do that in writing saying hey, you know these are

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<v Speaker 16>the restrictions. We can accommodate the restrictions. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 16>know if they've done that yet or not.

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<v Speaker 6>But did you get a letter from the employer saying

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<v Speaker 6>how they would accommodate her.

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<v Speaker 13>Not yet?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>What you do is have her contact her employer. Have

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<v Speaker 6>her contact her employer and say, please give me a

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<v Speaker 6>letter noting the light duty accommodation and I will report

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<v Speaker 6>for work, okay.

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<v Speaker 12>But what about you feel the fact that it's going

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<v Speaker 12>to be extremely difficult to get to a same work.

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<v Speaker 6>That part doesn't play into to it. It's it's it

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<v Speaker 6>really does it.

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<v Speaker 12>It would cost us, It would cost us one hundred

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<v Speaker 12>and twenty dollars a day for her to get to

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<v Speaker 12>and from work. She would have to take an over.

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<v Speaker 5>Geo, I can't solve that problem for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>could you imagine the mess our system would be in

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<v Speaker 5>if our system had to pay for people to get

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<v Speaker 5>to and from work.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it just doesn't work that way. It's not

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<v Speaker 6>part of the injury. It's it's not part of the treatment.

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<v Speaker 16>What part of her injury prevents her from getting to

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<v Speaker 16>work as she only did.

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<v Speaker 12>Her right ankle and foot is broken, so she cannot

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<v Speaker 12>drive and because having extremely difficult time on crutches navigating

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<v Speaker 12>there could cliff what do they do to get on

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<v Speaker 12>and off the box?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>GEO made his case that she's one hundred percent unable

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<v Speaker 6>to get to work. There, unable to get to work

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<v Speaker 6>without spending one hundred and twenty dollars a day. So

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<v Speaker 6>what happens in a case like that, Cliff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>let's talk about the cold heart system.

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<v Speaker 5>How does it work.

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<v Speaker 6>Do they say, oh, this woman's she's going to get

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred and twenty dollars a day from us because

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<v Speaker 6>she's different than Mary Smith down the street who only

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<v Speaker 6>needs a five dollars.

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<v Speaker 16>No, they don't have to pay for her transportation to work.

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<v Speaker 16>You're absolutely correct and that, and for for the reasons

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<v Speaker 16>that you uh said. The basically everybody's responsible for getting

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<v Speaker 16>to their job. However, let's say that you know you're

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<v Speaker 16>on narcotics for your injury and you can't safely drive

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<v Speaker 16>that the argument could then be made, hey, I really

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<v Speaker 16>can't get to work. That that's a restriction that prevents

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<v Speaker 16>me from getting to work. I can't safely do that.

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<v Speaker 16>There's it's a very gray area. It's a matter that

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<v Speaker 16>you would that we would negotiate with the adjuster. We'd

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<v Speaker 16>call the adjuster and say, hey, you know, this isn't reasonable.

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<v Speaker 16>The person's on narcotics, they can't get to work, the

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<v Speaker 6>I think what they're going to do is fire, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think she's going to get fired. And I and

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<v Speaker 6>Cliff they have every reason to fire her if she

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<v Speaker 6>says I can't get to work, that they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>fire her.

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<v Speaker 16>So GEO just that the becomes a wrongful discharge thing,

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<v Speaker 16>which we don't do. That's a whole different area.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the law, guys. I want to steer this a

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<v Speaker 8>different direction real quick. Then we'll take a break. But Cliff,

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<v Speaker 8>just a couple questions. One, what is the status of

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<v Speaker 8>people going at something alone during a workman's comp in

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<v Speaker 8>collecting money or getting money compared to someone with an attorney.

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<v Speaker 8>Is there stats out there like that for workmen's comp.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, I don't know that there's specific stats, but

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<v Speaker 16>I've been doing this for thirty years and I can

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<v Speaker 16>tell you that it's a rare case where someone's going

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<v Speaker 16>to call the insurance company and then all of a

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<v Speaker 16>sudden going to say, oh, yeah, you're right, we're wrong.

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<v Speaker 10>Here, we're going.

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<v Speaker 16>To pay you a temporary to little disability. Hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 16>to give you all this all this money. I do

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<v Speaker 16>know that statistically, although I don't know the exact stet,

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<v Speaker 16>you're much more likely you get a fair impairment rating

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<v Speaker 16>fair medical care with an erect protected when you have

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<v Speaker 16>well yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Because first of all, they know they know they can't

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<v Speaker 6>bs them. Now get I gotta get to this break.

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<v Speaker 6>But here's what I want to say, Daryl. You have

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<v Speaker 6>a legit issue if she can't get to work. But

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<v Speaker 6>remember they don't have to make each and every accommodation.

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<v Speaker 5>So as soon as you tell them she can't return

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<v Speaker 5>for light duty with restrictions, they're going to fire her.

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<v Speaker 5>So it doesn't sound like it's the most stellar job

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<v Speaker 5>in the world.

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<v Speaker 6>She'll still get this case going, she'll still get what's

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<v Speaker 6>coming to her on this case, and she find another job.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what else to say, Daryl.

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<v Speaker 6>Because systems are not set up to accommodate people. We

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<v Speaker 6>don't have a nanny government. And again I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 6>you're asking for that, Daryl. Trust me, I know you're

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<v Speaker 6>in a hard place there, and I'm not making fun

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<v Speaker 6>of you or anything.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just saying the system.

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<v Speaker 6>The government is not set up for each and every person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>it's very, very difficult unless you came to the country illegally.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we have more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me give you Cliff Enton's contact Enton E. N T. E.

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<v Speaker 6>N Entin Law dot Com. Three o three three three

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<v Speaker 6>three two two two two. That's three oh three three

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<v Speaker 6>three three two two two two.

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<v Speaker 15>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

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<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

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<v Speaker 15>seven to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Help.

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<v Speaker 15>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 15>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 15>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 15>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi Tom Martino here by did I tell you? You

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<v Speaker 6>can also text me on the show now iHeart has

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<v Speaker 6>and I put it in a folder to call you

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<v Speaker 6>back on certain problems. And this number you can even

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<v Speaker 6>Mark Schmanski with us, and we'll be talking about issues

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<v Speaker 6>with stucco, because I'm getting some questions on stucco.

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<v Speaker 5>Some people I believe don't even know if they have stucco.

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<v Speaker 6>But I know Mark, along with Genesis Total Exteriors has

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<v Speaker 6>just about everything with UH when it comes to stucco

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<v Speaker 6>as far as knowledge and execution. Darryl right now has

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<v Speaker 6>an issue with an attorney. Darryl, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 13>Both?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, I have an issue with an attorney. I acquired

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<v Speaker 14>this attorney last November eighteenth, and I spoke with him

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<v Speaker 14>about some problems that were going on with me and

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<v Speaker 14>my family.

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<v Speaker 13>Basically, my mother is, well, give me.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me some specifics.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you, it's pretty odd to hire an attorney to

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<v Speaker 6>go after your family unless there's something going on, like specifically,

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<v Speaker 6>was it just was somebody about to die, or did

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<v Speaker 6>it have to do.

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<v Speaker 5>With an estate or what?

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<v Speaker 14>Well it has to do with an estateium and yes,

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<v Speaker 14>my mother getting old. What was going on? Was my

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<v Speaker 14>my mother? She voice to me years before that her

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<v Speaker 14>pension had stopped and she didn't she didn't know why.

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<v Speaker 14>This was back in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, and iiate,

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<v Speaker 14>I immediately thought that my sister had.

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<v Speaker 10>Something to do with it, and did you look into it?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I the way I looked into it was I

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<v Speaker 14>tried to I did acquire this attorney, and he told me, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's one of the reasons you hired the attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>You thought the sister somehow might have cashed out that

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<v Speaker 6>pension or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, okay, okay, I would she.

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<v Speaker 7>Have done that without your mom's permission? Did I miss

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<v Speaker 7>something or was she?

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<v Speaker 10>Well?

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<v Speaker 14>What she did was you know, with my mother not

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<v Speaker 14>really knowing. Took her to my mother's bank and sat

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<v Speaker 14>my mother down. I was there, went up to the

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<v Speaker 14>tell her, got some paperwork, brought it back over and

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<v Speaker 14>to my mother and basically made like my mother signed

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<v Speaker 14>it and took it back to the teller. That was

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<v Speaker 14>for her social security. But the pension part, my mother

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<v Speaker 14>told me that she was going to have quite as

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<v Speaker 14>she said, is no way, I'd spent all this money

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<v Speaker 14>and I'm going to have you know X amount of

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<v Speaker 14>dollars for you and your sister to split. And I

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<v Speaker 14>know it. My sister was going through some things with

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<v Speaker 14>her own family.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, no, I understand this. It's all circumstantial. But

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<v Speaker 6>here's what I want to know. When you hired an attorney,

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<v Speaker 6>and remember, this is not an estate right now, this

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<v Speaker 6>is not This is a private family matter, and basically

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<v Speaker 6>no one has to tell you anything. But there are

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<v Speaker 6>things he should have asked. We'll go over that coming

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<v Speaker 6>up right after this.

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<v Speaker 15>Okay, go with a sure thing Denver's Best Ruffer Excel

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<v Speaker 15>at dozens of insurance companies find out now three all

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<v Speaker 15>three seven seven to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Help.

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<v Speaker 15>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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<v Speaker 15>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 15>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 15>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>two five five five four. Darryl has an issue with

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<v Speaker 6>the family at you. And you know, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>He hired an attorney because he suspected his sister was

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<v Speaker 6>somehow or somehow diverted the pension to her, because the

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<v Speaker 6>mom said, my pension stopped back in twenty sixteen. But

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<v Speaker 6>my god, it's taken you so long to get around

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<v Speaker 6>to this. Did you ever did you actually sue your

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<v Speaker 6>sister or when you hired an attorney, what action did

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<v Speaker 6>the attorney take.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, the attorney said, well, the first thing you're going

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<v Speaker 14>to have to do is get conservativeship and guardianship over

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<v Speaker 14>your mother.

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<v Speaker 10>All that's not true.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, in other words, you just wanted to know

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<v Speaker 6>what happened with the pension. You can do that with

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<v Speaker 6>your mother's permission. Your mother would give you permission to

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<v Speaker 6>access her account and work directly with the insurance company

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<v Speaker 6>with the pension. You wouldn't. You don't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why your attorney would tell you that.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, he told me that. But my mother has dementia

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<v Speaker 14>and so.

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<v Speaker 6>So she can't grant you. She can't grant you a

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<v Speaker 6>power of attorney to look at that account.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, my sister she had got in power of attorney

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<v Speaker 14>through someone at her job about a year ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Just you mean somebody at her job helped her get it.

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, she has a notary at her job.

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<v Speaker 5>And well, okay, all a notary does is, let's not

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<v Speaker 5>even get into it.

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<v Speaker 6>A notary just says this person signed this document. They

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<v Speaker 6>do nothing about the formation of a document or anything.

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<v Speaker 6>Not one thing, not one thing do they do if

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<v Speaker 6>there's words spelled wrong and it's totally gobblygook, they do

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<v Speaker 6>nothing except certify that or notarized that you signed it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's all. That's the only function they have. So who

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<v Speaker 6>drew up this document?

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<v Speaker 14>Who was a person at her job, a secretary or

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<v Speaker 14>do you have a copy of it. No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 14>She didn't and that was the problem. I never did

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<v Speaker 14>get to see it. When when when she first said that.

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<v Speaker 5>You how many siblings are there? When you when you

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<v Speaker 5>get it, when your answers.

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<v Speaker 6>Get too long, I need to okay, So just you

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<v Speaker 6>and her, just you and her? And how much money

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<v Speaker 6>do you estimate where it was in the pension?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, my father who's deceased, he told me, now none

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<v Speaker 14>of that matters.

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<v Speaker 5>I need to know what you think was in the

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<v Speaker 5>I just need to know how much you think the.

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<v Speaker 14>Pension two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which was that was.

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<v Speaker 5>Still in it? That was still in it?

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Now could you could you in a friendly way stay

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<v Speaker 6>to your sister. I'm concerned about this pension and put

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<v Speaker 6>it this way. I think maybe the company might have

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<v Speaker 6>screwed her. We should look into why it stopped. Can

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<v Speaker 6>you help me out? Would she help you?

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<v Speaker 14>No, she wouldn't help me because I did ask Well

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<v Speaker 14>before I could even ask her, she said, Mom spent

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<v Speaker 14>all her money and she's not going to be able

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<v Speaker 14>to ford her house.

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<v Speaker 6>The the So did she say that she took it?

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<v Speaker 6>Did she say she took advanced payments.

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<v Speaker 14>No, No, she didn't say anything like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, there's a reason. There's a reason pensions stop. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a reason. Okay, right, they don't just stop. What kind

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<v Speaker 6>of a pension was it?

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<v Speaker 14>It was a pension from my father's employment.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, all right, it was it was.

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<v Speaker 14>It was two hundred and fifty dollars put up in.

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<v Speaker 14>The interest off of that was probably fifty maybe a

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<v Speaker 14>little over five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So how much did she get? How much did

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<v Speaker 5>she get each.

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<v Speaker 14>Month the pension was I believe it was like fifty

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<v Speaker 14>four hundred fifty five hundred. And she also has a

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<v Speaker 14>Social Security which is about sixteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>So okay.

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<v Speaker 14>My mother was saying, so.

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<v Speaker 6>You think, here's the bottom line, you think your sister

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<v Speaker 6>is screwing your mom? Is you think your sister did

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<v Speaker 6>away with her pension and kept the money.

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<v Speaker 5>Hold on and.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to see what we can do. I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>going to see what we can do. Let's try to

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<v Speaker 6>get mackenzie on if we can. Dan would be a

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<v Speaker 6>good one if he can talk about this. What do

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<v Speaker 6>you do when you think someone's cheating? How do you

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<v Speaker 6>open this up? It happens more and more families.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if you've noticed, but man, the calls

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<v Speaker 3>Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 10>Now Tom Martino, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Three zero three seven one three talk three oh three

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<v Speaker 6>seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 5>What's going on? How can we help you? We ask

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<v Speaker 5>it every day forty.

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<v Speaker 6>Five years here fifty years otherwise, but the longest running

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<v Speaker 6>show on the radio with the same host currently on

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<v Speaker 6>the air, and.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, that does not escape me. Then it

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<v Speaker 5>could have been over.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm so happy to be back here, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>over the next few months, just says in a service

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<v Speaker 6>note here, I'll be up and down based on my

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<v Speaker 6>post surgery chimo, which they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>As a blast for caution, so that today is one

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<v Speaker 5>of those days.

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<v Speaker 6>Just thought I mentioned it because I usually sound like

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred times better than Mark, but today I'm only

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<v Speaker 6>fifty times better, so I'm sure you noticed. And Dan

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<v Speaker 6>McKenzie is an expert that I wanted to get on because,

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<v Speaker 6>oh my god, he's an estate planning attorney and he

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<v Speaker 6>helps a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>And this happens so much. I just it's outside of probate, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>totally outside of probate. Dan. The mom has dementia, the

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<v Speaker 5>oldest daughter. There's just two of them.

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<v Speaker 6>There's Daryl who called us, and his sister, and back

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty sixteen her pension stopped. The mom said, I

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<v Speaker 6>thought I had a lot more money in there. She

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<v Speaker 6>was getting a lot of money, like five thousand a

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<v Speaker 6>month or almost five thousand, and suddenly the payment stopped.

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<v Speaker 6>Right around that time, the daughter had a durable power

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<v Speaker 6>of attorney. Suspects that his sister got the money somehow,

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<v Speaker 6>so he called an attorney and what I'm not clear on, Darryl,

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<v Speaker 6>what did your attorney say to do?

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<v Speaker 5>What?

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<v Speaker 6>Let's check that first. What did your attorney say to do?

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<v Speaker 14>He told me there is no way your sister should

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<v Speaker 14>be doing that. And he said, what you need to do?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, if she wait, if she did do it, if

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<v Speaker 6>she did do it, there's no way she should be

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<v Speaker 6>doing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, yeah, this way he came in.

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<v Speaker 5>But did he say did he say he would he

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<v Speaker 5>would find out what she did?

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<v Speaker 6>If anything, there's a paper trail somewhere, right right exactly.

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<v Speaker 14>He told me there's a paper trail somewhere, and he says,

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<v Speaker 14>the best thing you should do is get conservativeship and guardianship,

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<v Speaker 14>so you can so you.

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<v Speaker 5>Can put Darryl Dryld.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, but but you come out of the blue for guardianship.

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<v Speaker 6>Who has guardianship right now? And that's not a power

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<v Speaker 6>of attorney, just so you know. Okay, So apparently apparently

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<v Speaker 6>then she's not incompetent.

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<v Speaker 5>And what if you went over.

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<v Speaker 14>There, she only got Why don't you a year A

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<v Speaker 14>year ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, a year ago?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Then I don't know what she did back in

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<v Speaker 6>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but.

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<v Speaker 6>You you can ask your mother, chick, why doesn't your

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<v Speaker 6>mom get a full accounting of her pension? And then

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<v Speaker 6>we'll see what happened to the balance of the money.

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<v Speaker 6>What she well she has to do. Why can't she

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<v Speaker 6>do it?

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<v Speaker 14>I can't do anything right now because she's eighty seven

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<v Speaker 14>with dimension in the last stages.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, okay, okay, you said she's not declared dementia.

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<v Speaker 5>She doesn't have a guardian. So here's what you do.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead of being assigned I mean, you can be assigned

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<v Speaker 6>a guardian, But how about getting her to sign a

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<v Speaker 6>power of attorney. Ask your attorney to write something up

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<v Speaker 6>for her to sign. Get her to sign it. No

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<v Speaker 6>one says she's just you know, if no one's disputing

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<v Speaker 6>her mental health right now, get her to sign. And

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<v Speaker 6>now listen, you're not talking to Dan McKenzie. Dan, what

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<v Speaker 6>do you do in a case like this? The mother

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<v Speaker 6>has to mention the sister has a power of attorney,

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't even know what the power of attorney

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<v Speaker 6>is for?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it a durable power? Attorney? For everything?

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<v Speaker 10>Darryl?

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<v Speaker 5>Does she take care of everything?

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<v Speaker 14>She takes it right now because she's off she's a

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<v Speaker 14>school teacher. She's off of school right now. She moved

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<v Speaker 14>over to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't care about where she moved. All I want

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<v Speaker 5>to know is does she take care of all the books?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 10>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Now will she let you say them? Say? Hey, why

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<v Speaker 5>don't you put it to her?

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<v Speaker 10>This way? Hey?

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<v Speaker 5>Mary, you know our mom's pension stopped in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 6>There might be money on the table somewhere. We should

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<v Speaker 6>look into this. Would she help you look into it?

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<v Speaker 14>No, she won't help me look into it. Why she is?

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<v Speaker 14>I have no idea. She's just like that. She's so.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's what I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 6>Why does your attorney feel all you have to do

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<v Speaker 6>is become is did he say you should open up probate?

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, Dan mackenzie, can you even open probate

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<v Speaker 6>when someone's still alive?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 20>Yes, that is a conservative ship. That is a probate case.

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<v Speaker 6>And and do you think that's good advice that he

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<v Speaker 6>go for that? And the sister's going to object, right, Daryl,

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<v Speaker 6>she's going to object.

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<v Speaker 13>Right right, Okay, So when she had.

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<v Speaker 5>When she had put oh hey, you already filed that,

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<v Speaker 5>it would have been nice if you told.

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<v Speaker 13>He took me through the like Like I said.

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<v Speaker 14>I acquired this attorney on last November and we've gone

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<v Speaker 14>through the whole thing. Had uh uh senior was the

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<v Speaker 14>senior social caseworker come to the house.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm okay, So you did you did file.

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<v Speaker 6>You did file a motion with the courts to open

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<v Speaker 6>a probate a conservative ship and take over. Right, So

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<v Speaker 6>did your your sister knows you filed it.

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<v Speaker 14>Now she does, Yes, she does, and she's got an attorney.

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<v Speaker 14>And my attorney hasn't even told me that she has

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<v Speaker 14>an attorney, but she has an attorney.

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<v Speaker 6>So your attorney, let me get this straight. So your attorney,

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<v Speaker 6>you have an attorney. So what was your Let's just

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<v Speaker 6>go right to this. What was your question for Dan

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<v Speaker 6>McKenzie today?

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<v Speaker 14>My question for him is is it possible that I

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<v Speaker 14>was trying to get the house not to go into

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<v Speaker 14>probate court by applying my name, you know, even my

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<v Speaker 14>sister's name on the property.

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<v Speaker 5>Do not do, do not do a quit claim. Do

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<v Speaker 5>not do a quit claim deed.

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<v Speaker 6>I just posted something about that a quit claim deed

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<v Speaker 6>is not a good idea.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I don't want to go into I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to go into all the details.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's always best, It's always best. Well, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 6>say ninety eight percent of the time. I'm sure as

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<v Speaker 6>an attorney, Dan McKenzie will say, you can't say always

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<v Speaker 6>because sometimes, but most of the time, it's better to

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<v Speaker 6>leave the house in a beneficiary deed or in a

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<v Speaker 6>will because then you get the stepped up basement excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>basis of today's of today's value. So don't do stupid

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<v Speaker 6>things like a quit claim deed.

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<v Speaker 5>All you need to do is a beneficiary deed.

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<v Speaker 6>But if you do a beneficiary deed, it's either going

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<v Speaker 6>to be to you or your sister or both of you.

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<v Speaker 6>So is your sister in favor of a beneficiary deed.

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<v Speaker 14>My sister won't talk to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you want talk to Dan, I'm throwing this in

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<v Speaker 5>your lap.

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<v Speaker 6>They want to make sure the house is preserved, but

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<v Speaker 6>they're not even talking to each other. So I don't

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what do you do in a case

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<v Speaker 6>like this, Dan, where siblings aren't even talking. Can you

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<v Speaker 6>go to the court and say, hey, make her talk

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<v Speaker 6>to me.

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<v Speaker 20>I mean, that really is the conservatorship route, you know that.

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<v Speaker 20>And the issue that is difficult is that when the

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<v Speaker 20>mom is alive, she's given power of attorney to the sister,

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<v Speaker 20>and really the sister's obligation is to the mom. She

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<v Speaker 20>doesn't really have an obligation to her brother at this point.

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<v Speaker 20>But Daryl, you can step into the shoes of your

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<v Speaker 20>mom by becoming her conservator, and at least that process

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<v Speaker 20>might squeeze out some information about exactly what's going on

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<v Speaker 20>here because it is a it is.

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00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:18.159
<v Speaker 14>A core process.

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00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 6>So when he applies for it, she's going to come

864
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.239
<v Speaker 6>and object, and that's where they can have this conversation

865
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.400
<v Speaker 6>about the pension and all of that. Would he be

866
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 6>allowed to say, look, I'm doing this because there was

867
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.199
<v Speaker 6>some questionable activity with that would open it all up.

868
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 20>Right, Yeah, I mean, I suspect you could do that.

869
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 20>Once you're in a court case, You've got some discovery

870
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 20>tower probably and could ask for some documents about exactly

871
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 20>what's going on.

872
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:48.199
<v Speaker 6>So you're heading in the right direction, Daryl, Yes, But Dan,

873
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.199
<v Speaker 6>as far as the house goes as far as the

874
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 6>house goes. He can't do a beneficiary's deed right now,

875
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 6>unless I mean, if I mean he could, Yeah, I

876
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 6>mean you're the sister would have to sign it, because

877
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 6>she's the power of attorney.

878
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.880
<v Speaker 20>Only if that power of attorney gives her authority to

879
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 20>do estate planning for on the mom's behalf. It's got

880
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 20>to explicitly give her that power.

881
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 6>And okay, so it depends on the power of the

882
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 6>of the attorney, the.

883
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Power of attorney.

884
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 14>Well, right now, the power attorney is just what it

885
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 14>was over her finances because I got my attorney got

886
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:30.760
<v Speaker 14>through the courts an emergency conservatorship on my behalf so

887
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.320
<v Speaker 14>I could least try to go into the accounts to

888
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.039
<v Speaker 14>figure out what's going on. But the banks started giving

889
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 14>me trouble and they start saying, well, why in your

890
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 14>attorney doing this? You know, why are you doing this?

891
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.320
<v Speaker 14>So I never did get too far with the attorneys.

892
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 14>I didn't get the did.

893
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 5>It expire the temporary expire.

894
00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 14>It expired, then it was given back to me and

895
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 14>we go to course.

896
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:53.760
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so right now, let me get this straight, Darryl.

897
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 6>Right now, you have a temporary conservatorship right now.

898
00:45:58.079 --> 00:45:59.079
<v Speaker 14>Yes, I do, Yes, I do.

899
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Man, you should have told me that upfront, because

900
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 6>here's why, Dan McKenzie. He can go and get a

901
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 6>complete accounting of that pension right now. Accountyp yep, Darryl,

902
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 6>you can contact the pension company with that, with that conservatorship.

903
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 6>Is there a Dan, how do you approve you have

904
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 6>a conservatorship? Does he have a certificate of something that

905
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 6>he can show the pension company?

906
00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 20>Yeah, he gets you should have emergency letters conservatives knowing

907
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 20>that he is the cost.

908
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:31.559
<v Speaker 6>All right, here's what you do, Darryl or no, I'm

909
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 6>not going to say here's what you do. We can't

910
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 6>give you legal advice. He's on the error as an expert,

911
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 6>and and I'm a host. But here's what we are saying.

912
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 6>If it was me and Dan was advising me, I

913
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 6>would go with that temporary conservatorship and take advantage of it.

914
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:49.920
<v Speaker 5>I would I would write right away.

915
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 6>I would go back and demand a full accounting of

916
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 6>that pension. That pension is wallpapered by law. They have

917
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 6>every dime going in, every dime coming out. And if

918
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 6>she cashed it out, and if she made herself a beneficiary,

919
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 6>and then she could have done anything.

920
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 5>So that's the.

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<v Speaker 6>First thing you do. The second thing I want to

922
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.239
<v Speaker 6>ask Dan McKenzie. Does he have now that he has

923
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 6>a conservatorship, though it be temporary, does he have the

924
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 6>right to use that to do a beneficiary deed?

925
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 7>Oh gosh, I don't know.

926
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 20>Actually, I mean, I think conservativeship probably is limited to

927
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 20>in some way just to do whatever the emergency addressed

928
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 20>the emergency. And I don't know if a beneficiary deed

929
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 20>is really an emergency issue.

930
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 6>Well, but it could be a fiduciary item where he says,

931
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 6>I am leaving this house to my sister and me

932
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:46.760
<v Speaker 6>for the benefit of the estate.

933
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 5>Who would object to it?

934
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 6>Would Does sister object Daryl to a beneficiary deed naming

935
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:53.119
<v Speaker 6>both of you?

936
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.199
<v Speaker 14>I don't know. At this point, she's so well, well, well,

937
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:57.880
<v Speaker 14>let me ask you.

938
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Speaker 5>Does she think she's entitled to everything?

939
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.719
<v Speaker 14>Yes, she thinks she's entitled to everything.

940
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 5>Why Why is that.

941
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 14>Because she because she makes more money? I guess.

942
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:13.800
<v Speaker 10>Okay, listen to harrol Idea.

943
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 14>She's because she said, she said, well, I'm can't afford

944
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 14>this house. I'm going to have to come over there

945
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.960
<v Speaker 14>and and and help out with the with the uh,

946
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.199
<v Speaker 14>with the with the upkeep of the house.

947
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Is the house paid off, Darryl? Is the house?

948
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 10>It is paid off off?

949
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 14>And she was trying to make me pay rent at

950
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 14>the same time. And I moved Why do I moved

951
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 14>into the I moved in five years before she came there.

952
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:39.599
<v Speaker 5>So how long have you been living with your mom?

953
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 14>I've been living with my mom since two thoy fifteen sixteen.

954
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 5>The same time the pension went missing, right well, and

955
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 5>your sister can blame you. Look at do me a favor, Daryl.

956
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 6>We this just gets getting deeper and deeper, and you

957
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 6>keep telling us new stuff like, for example, I have

958
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.360
<v Speaker 6>led with I have a temporary conservativeship with my mother

959
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 6>that I'm living with. I mean, that's really so ask

960
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.480
<v Speaker 6>your attorney please, because I can't talk to him. I

961
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 6>don't know if your attorney's doing good or bad. But

962
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 6>the attorney did not give you bad advice as far

963
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 6>as opening up a conservatorship. But now you got to

964
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 6>use the powers of that conservatorship to find out one

965
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 6>thing at a time. Find out what happened to the pension.

966
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.639
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967
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 6>them and give a copy of the conservatorship and help

968
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<v Speaker 6>Hi Tom Martino here Drew seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 6>five Let's keep going here and surely wants to talk

988
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<v Speaker 6>about service and sales on a Cadillact.

989
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<v Speaker 5>This is a pretty new Cadillact.

990
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<v Speaker 10>Shirley.

991
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:43.760
<v Speaker 5>Did you buy it new?

992
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<v Speaker 19>Hey?

993
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 13>Yes, I did, Shirley.

994
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 5>Where did you buy it from?

995
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 19>Automation Dodge on Eastern rapa Home?

996
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 6>Okay, man, we get a lot of complaints. Mark, have

997
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 6>you noticed about that dealership?

998
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Really?

999
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 13>Great?

1000
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 6>Well no, no, we get that particular dealership, that particular dealership.

1001
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 5>So tell me the issue.

1002
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 6>You bought a new twenty twenty four Cadillac and what's

1003
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 6>going on?

1004
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 13>They used them?

1005
00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 19>It's a used one. It had oh use weet twenty

1006
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 19>one thousand miles on it. It's a twenty twenty four

1007
00:51:27.719 --> 00:51:35.880
<v Speaker 19>traded in a twenty twenty one Grand Jeep Cherokee. The

1008
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 19>price of the car, the Cadillac was thirty seven five.

1009
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 19>They gave us twenty seven five for a tradeing of

1010
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.559
<v Speaker 19>the jeep, so that meant we had to come up

1011
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 19>with thirty or eleven thousand some.

1012
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.239
<v Speaker 5>Which So how much did you get? How much did

1013
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 5>you get for that jeep?

1014
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 17>Oh?

1015
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 19>No, what did we get for originally?

1016
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 14>No?

1017
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 5>What did you what did they give you on your trade?

1018
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 6>You?

1019
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 19>Twenty seven five?

1020
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, you said that. I didn't get it. So

1021
00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 5>then on that twenty seven to five, did you have

1022
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 5>a loan?

1023
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 13>No?

1024
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:18.679
<v Speaker 5>No, okay, okay, keep.

1025
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 19>Going, okay, So we had to give them in turn

1026
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 19>eleven thousand some odd dollars, which was fine, no problem, right,

1027
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 19>except there were start right from the beginning, there were

1028
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 19>some red flags and I we kind of ignored them.

1029
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 19>But when we first started in on the process, we

1030
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:45.280
<v Speaker 19>are here, how.

1031
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:49.039
<v Speaker 5>We give me general start?

1032
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:53.840
<v Speaker 19>They started the process and in the stack of papers

1033
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.079
<v Speaker 19>to show you what all is going to happen and whatnot,

1034
00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:03.320
<v Speaker 19>in that pile was the warranty and it said no warranty,

1035
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:08.679
<v Speaker 19>huge letters, no warranty. Well I went, I said, why

1036
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 19>on earth would it have warranty? And he said, oh,

1037
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 19>never mind that, and he just took it, took out

1038
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 19>a new warranty and marked it. Yes, okay, okay, all right,

1039
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 19>So immediately I he marked.

1040
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 6>It on the contract, on the purchase contract where it

1041
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 6>showed thirty seven to five minus twenty seven to five

1042
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 6>a balance due of ten grand, and then on the

1043
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 6>contract it says warranty, yes, yes, yes, okay. You know

1044
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 6>I can talk to your husband if you want me to.

1045
00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.039
<v Speaker 6>I can talk to him because I know he's behind

1046
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 6>you or you know, whichever is easier, So go ahead.

1047
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.599
<v Speaker 6>So warranty marked, yes, go ahead, Yes, So.

1048
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 19>They changed it and we did have a warranty.

1049
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 5>So I felt, did you know did you know what

1050
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 5>kind of warranty?

1051
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.920
<v Speaker 6>I mean a warranty could be like five miles. I

1052
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.239
<v Speaker 6>mean when it said warranty, yes, what kind of warranty?

1053
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 19>Five years? No, five days or two hundred and fifty miles.

1054
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So you know that for sure that's the warranty

1055
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:15.000
<v Speaker 5>that was giving you.

1056
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:17.400
<v Speaker 19>Yes, yeah, five.

1057
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 6>Days or two hundred and fifty miles. Okay, So keep

1058
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 6>going with your well, keep going with your story.

1059
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay.

1060
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:28.880
<v Speaker 19>So then I'm thinking, okay, I and originally I thought

1061
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 19>it said five days or two hundred and fifty miles. Well,

1062
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.079
<v Speaker 19>we started having problems from day one, and by the

1063
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:40.719
<v Speaker 19>time we got it back okay, I'll start back.

1064
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:43.280
<v Speaker 6>It is it is five days or two hundred and

1065
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:46.079
<v Speaker 6>fifty miles, whichever is shorter. That's the way it is

1066
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 6>in every warranty in the world. And it would have

1067
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 6>clearly would.

1068
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 5>Have clearly said that in your document, and I'll guarantee

1069
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 5>it does.

1070
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 19>Okay. Well, that's what we kept thinking, and he said No,

1071
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.320
<v Speaker 19>it had to be both. It had to be under

1072
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.440
<v Speaker 19>or on the fifth day. And yeah, only yes, only

1073
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.400
<v Speaker 19>two fifty miles.

1074
00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 13>Right, Well, were what a name is?

1075
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 6>Surely surely if it's over two hundred and fifty miles

1076
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<v Speaker 6>and it's the third day, you're out of a warranty.

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<v Speaker 6>It either triggers in five days or it triggers at

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<v Speaker 6>two hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>Miles, whichever is sooner. You don't have two.

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00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:26.679
<v Speaker 6>Deadlines, you have one depending on when it happens. So

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<v Speaker 6>the first five days you have coverage unless you hit

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00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.519
<v Speaker 6>two hundred and fifty miles. So are you saying you

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<v Speaker 6>had a problem within the first five days but the

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00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 6>warranty expired.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, if that's the case.

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00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 6>Okay, what is the problem that surfaced.

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00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 19>The day started rattling on our way home?

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<v Speaker 5>What did it?

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00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 6>What did it end up being? And I want to

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<v Speaker 6>go right to the bad part. What problem did it

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00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 6>end up having?

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<v Speaker 19>Okay, So when I got home, I called back, can.

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00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.639
<v Speaker 5>You tell me? Can you tell me what the problem is?

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00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Get right to the part where it was diagnosed and

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00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:05.840
<v Speaker 6>they turned it down.

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00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.199
<v Speaker 5>What's the problem.

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<v Speaker 19>I don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't understand the question it's the most basic question

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00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 6>in the world. You're calling me because your new car

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00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Speaker 6>had a problem. I'm asking what the problem was that

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<v Speaker 6>they would not cover.

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<v Speaker 5>Did did the warranty turn you down? Let me let

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00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 5>me start there. Did they turn you down?

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00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:27.280
<v Speaker 17>No?

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00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 19>They had me bring it back, okay, And then we

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00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 19>did the which I did the very next day, day two,

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00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 19>we took it back to have have. They said to

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00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 19>bring it back and we'll fix it, which was fine.

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00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:43.440
<v Speaker 13>All right.

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00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.480
<v Speaker 19>So now we're on day two and.

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00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 6>I don't I want to try not to go through

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00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 6>each and every day. Could you just tell me what

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00:56:51.039 --> 00:56:54.440
<v Speaker 6>you're calling about. Listen, surely I'm interested in this, trust me.

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00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 6>I just want to get to the problem, the problem.

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00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 6>Then we work backwards. What is the problem that had

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00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 6>you call us today?

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00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:06.199
<v Speaker 19>It was still rattling after they said they fixed it.

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00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay. Now the rattling. Is this rattling in the dash itself,

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00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 5>like a mechanical rattle or does it sound like it's

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00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 5>coming from the engine.

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00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 19>No, it came from, of all things, where the sunglass

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00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:24.800
<v Speaker 19>holder is on the dash. It was rattling and it

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00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 19>was making this horrible noise. So we took it back

1124
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:34.159
<v Speaker 19>and they said, yeah, we fixed it, didn't didn't fix it.

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<v Speaker 19>And the dashlights there were two dashlights that kept coming

1126
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:43.199
<v Speaker 19>on so while and this was while it was under warranty,

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00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.679
<v Speaker 19>right absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Okay, good because if they can't fix something under

1129
00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:54.239
<v Speaker 6>warranty and the warranty expires, that one item is still.

1130
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 5>They still have to fix it. But I got to

1131
00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.280
<v Speaker 5>give you some bad news.

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00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 6>And the bad news is that rattle may not have

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00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 6>been covered to begin with. It may have been an

1134
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.159
<v Speaker 6>exclusion because usually noises and rattles are not covered.

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00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 5>That's why I asked you if it was.

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00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:14.480
<v Speaker 6>A structural thing with the engine or the transmission or

1137
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:18.400
<v Speaker 6>the drive train, or was it cosmetic like like you said,

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00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 6>the mirror, the dash None of that will be covered

1139
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:25.239
<v Speaker 6>under a warranty.

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00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 19>Even like the light. The lights that flashed on that say.

1141
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:32.159
<v Speaker 6>Caution, Well, if you have an idiot light come on,

1142
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:36.280
<v Speaker 6>they should investigate the cause of that. But remember you

1143
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 6>had a right to investigate the cause of that as well.

1144
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:41.280
<v Speaker 5>So what did it turn out to be? The lights

1145
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:41.719
<v Speaker 5>going on?

1146
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 19>They never told us. They told us to bring it back.

1147
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 5>D What did you want to say? Go ahead, just

1148
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 5>hold on, de go ahead?

1149
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Sureley? How many miles do you have in this Cadillac.

1150
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 19>Thirty good?

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00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, good answer, that's okay, okay, you got to keep going.

1152
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 11>According to the Internet, the twenty four Cadillac Acts comes

1153
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.119
<v Speaker 11>with a four year, fifty thousand mile bumper to bumper

1154
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 11>warranty from the manufacturer.

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00:59:04.679 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 5>Well, it may not be transferable in this case.

1156
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 11>Well, I've never heard of a bumper to bumper warranty

1157
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:09.400
<v Speaker 11>that's not transferable.

1158
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 5>I've heard of plenty of them.

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00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:12.159
<v Speaker 6>First of all, if they don't do it in a

1160
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.920
<v Speaker 6>certified fashion acceptable to the manufacturer, the certification does not

1161
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 6>carry through the secondary owner. Also, there's another one, and

1162
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 6>that is if that particular car was a Lemon buyback,

1163
00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 6>you don't get the you don't get the extension and mark.

1164
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:28.920
<v Speaker 6>There are a number of others that Hyundai has. Right

1165
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.360
<v Speaker 6>conditions before bumper to bumper, it's all. It is what

1166
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:34.519
<v Speaker 6>it is most of the time. On bumper to bumper

1167
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.559
<v Speaker 6>it is what it is, but on the power train.

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00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 10>But it has to be certified right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I agree with you answering, no, I would love.

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<v Speaker 5>It if she has a manufacturer. Surely he's saying you

1171
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 5>have a manufacturer's warranty, right.

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00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 11>Now and she can find out for sure whether the

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00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.159
<v Speaker 11>warranty is an effect and what the dashboard warnings are for,

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<v Speaker 11>because that sounds more serious than a rattle. With a

1175
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:58.719
<v Speaker 11>simple trip to the Cadillac dealership. Are you are you

1176
00:59:58.840 --> 00:59:59.960
<v Speaker 11>costing nothing to stop?

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<v Speaker 5>Have you gone to a genuine Cadillac dealership?

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01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 19>No, because we don't have one in our area. Where

1179
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.280
<v Speaker 19>do you live in Yuma, Colorado?

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01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well, it doesn't matter that there isn't one. You

1181
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 6>have to find one, and you have to have them

1182
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 6>take your VIN number. They run your VEN number to

1183
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 6>make sure that there are warranties or not, and and

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01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:23.519
<v Speaker 6>and then once you know.

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01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 8>You can even call up talk to the service department

1186
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:28.760
<v Speaker 8>and say, hey, I just bought this, tell me about

1187
01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.199
<v Speaker 8>the warranty, and then get it right.

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01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 6>They can look up you're right, Mark, She can do

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01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 6>that by phone and they can look up your VIN.

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<v Speaker 5>How far is Yuma from Denver's?

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01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Probably?

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01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 10>Wow?

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01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 6>And so okay, would Denver be the closest place?

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01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, pretty much.

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01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 6>Okay, why don't you call a Cadillac dealer to be with,

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01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:57.239
<v Speaker 6>given your VIN number and see if it's still under

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01:00:57.239 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 6>warranty and tell them you bought it used. Tell them

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01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 6>the story. Don't tell the story about your problems. Just

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01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 6>say I'm looking for a place to service my Cadillac.

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01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:09.199
<v Speaker 6>I bought it twenty twenty four with you know how

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01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:12.920
<v Speaker 6>many miles on it, and I'm looking to get it serviced.

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01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.679
<v Speaker 6>Is it's still under factory warranty? And if it is,

1203
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:17.599
<v Speaker 6>your problems are solved.

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01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh, by the way, there is a Cadillac dealership in Greeley.

1205
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>It's called Cadillac.

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01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 19>Yeah, Greeley the same amount as Dry.

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01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 6>If it's the same amount, avoid Greeley like you would

1208
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:31.599
<v Speaker 6>avoid herpes in open sore herpes.

1209
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 5>Avoid Greeley.

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01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 10>So Tom, Hey, Tom, I'm well familiar with Rickenbaugh Cadillac.

1211
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.719
<v Speaker 10>It is a phenomenal dealership and that would be back Collins, right, No, Rick, Well,

1212
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 10>but they're right downtown Denver office Spear great great dealer,

1213
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 10>Mark Schimanski.

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01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:49.159
<v Speaker 5>You've had personal experience with them? Yes?

1215
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 10>I have?

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01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 5>Okay, good?

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01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.199
<v Speaker 6>So the warranty Mark just for five days, two hundred

1218
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.360
<v Speaker 6>and fifty miles. The problem with the dash rattling, and

1219
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 6>the dealer took it back and said they fixed it,

1220
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.199
<v Speaker 6>but they didn't. That's it in a nutshell, right, How

1221
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 6>bad is it right now? How bad is it right now?

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01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 19>Well, if the lights are still coming on and the

1223
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 19>rattle's still there, and we can fix the rattle by

1224
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 19>holding the glasses holder.

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01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 8>You could just yeah, I'm sure it's one of those

1226
01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.039
<v Speaker 8>metal clips. Well then then it has less than thirty

1227
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 8>six thousand miles though.

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01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:26.960
<v Speaker 19>Right, yes, absolutely, and we called them on day five.

1229
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:29.719
<v Speaker 5>Okay, listen, it's we get back.

1230
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:31.079
<v Speaker 10>We can't.

1231
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 6>You can't return the car. I mean, it's a warranty.

1232
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 6>It's not a guaranteed refund or is it.

1233
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:40.920
<v Speaker 5>Is it a guaranteed refund for five days?

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01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 19>For five days?

1235
01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.159
<v Speaker 6>It should be no, not if you went over two

1236
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.280
<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty miles. Did you go over two hundred

1237
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 6>and fifty miles? Yes, Well, then it's not that your

1238
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.760
<v Speaker 6>warranty expired at two hundred and fifty miles.

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01:02:54.039 --> 01:02:57.480
<v Speaker 5>It's not five days. Listen. Let me give you an example.

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01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 6>When you take it from the factory, and let's say

1241
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 6>you get a three year, thirty six thousand mile warranty,

1242
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.760
<v Speaker 6>you don't have if you put two hundred thousand miles

1243
01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:07.920
<v Speaker 6>in that car, you're not going to have a warranty

1244
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.000
<v Speaker 6>for the next three years.

1245
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.519
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't work. That way. Everybody in the world knows that.

1246
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why you think you have five dais

1247
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 5>retired car.

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<v Speaker 7>Great brother.

1249
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's take this break. Then we got more coming up.

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01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.719
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01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:27.400
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01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:29.480
<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.400
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<v Speaker 15>insurance companies find out now three O three seven seven

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<v Speaker 15>to one.

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<v Speaker 4>Help.

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<v Speaker 15>You'll think you're his only customer when you choose Frank

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01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.719
<v Speaker 15>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.880
<v Speaker 15>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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01:03:52.039 --> 01:03:53.000
<v Speaker 15>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.

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01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:03.199
<v Speaker 6>Okay, by the way, somebody did text me about a

1264
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:07.880
<v Speaker 6>dealership being pretty close to her. Well, I don't know

1265
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 6>if pretty close, but they said Vince's GM Center in Burlington.

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01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 6>How much closer? Is Burlington? Much closer?

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01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:22.039
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so they're closer to Huma than Greeley or.

1268
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.280
<v Speaker 6>Denver, So she might want to check that. But we

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01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:28.800
<v Speaker 6>have to take this one step at a time. Is

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01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.880
<v Speaker 6>it under warranty from the factory. That would be great.

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01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:36.760
<v Speaker 5>If it's under warranty from the dealer. If the dealer

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01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 5>never Let's put it this way, if the dealer never

1273
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:46.400
<v Speaker 5>checked the car and fixed it under warranty, that even

1274
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 5>that five day warranty could be longer. So the argument

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01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 5>I would make is you never fixed the original problem.

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01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 5>It's still under warranty. Therefore I want to return the car.

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01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:03.519
<v Speaker 5>But here's the problem. We don't know what the problem is.

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01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 5>She has a rattling in idiot lights.

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01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:11.599
<v Speaker 6>So if I was her, I would take it to

1280
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 6>another dealer and find out what's wrong with it. Then

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01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.800
<v Speaker 6>go back and say, here's what's wrong with it. You

1282
01:05:19.840 --> 01:05:23.920
<v Speaker 6>didn't fix it while it was under warranty, so fix

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01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:30.760
<v Speaker 6>it now because that warranty was never satisfied. Okay, Charles,

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01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.320
<v Speaker 6>you have a question about probate. Go ahead, Charles.

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01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.199
<v Speaker 13>Oh yeah, Tom, I need a referral for a probat attorney.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I can give you one. Dan Mackenzie. He was

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<v Speaker 5>just on the show earlier answering questions. He's a good guy,

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<v Speaker 5>mackenzie law and I'll give you his number in a second.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me what the problem is.

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<v Speaker 13>My partner passed away and we had a will and

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<v Speaker 13>the judge voided it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the partner. Was this a conventional marriage or you

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01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:09.239
<v Speaker 5>just somebody you lived with?

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01:06:11.760 --> 01:06:13.880
<v Speaker 13>We lived together, and you've.

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01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 6>Held yourself out. Did you hold yourself out as husband

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<v Speaker 6>and wife? Like introduced her as your wife or your husband?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know, you know, did you do it that way?

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01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Did you guys consider yourself married?

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<v Speaker 13>Pretty much?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>And why did the court void? And who your partner died?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry about that. When did your partner die?

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<v Speaker 13>September twenty year, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 6>Back in twenty twenty three. And then you tried to

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<v Speaker 6>open a probate?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>And what happened when you tried to open a probate?

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<v Speaker 6>The judge wouldn't let you, or it opened and closed?

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<v Speaker 6>Tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh, it opened, we went to trial.

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<v Speaker 6>And you went to trial. So this was for your

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<v Speaker 6>common law wife. You want to open a probate and

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01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 6>they would not let you.

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<v Speaker 13>No, they let me.

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<v Speaker 9>Why did they will?

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<v Speaker 13>It was a hearing type?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, okay, who is contesting it? I want to know

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<v Speaker 5>who is contesting the probate? I mean, usually if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to open a probate for your wife. Who's going

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<v Speaker 5>to protest? I mean, there's got to be someone who

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<v Speaker 5>thinks that they should have got that they should get.

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<v Speaker 6>The estate or something first, first, for discussion purposes, and

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<v Speaker 6>because we live in today's world. Are we talking about

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<v Speaker 6>a wife?

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<v Speaker 13>We were not married, but you're talking.

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<v Speaker 6>About a common law wife, someone that you introduced as

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<v Speaker 6>your wife.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys considered yourselves married. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you co mingle finances?

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<v Speaker 13>We filed taxes together.

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<v Speaker 6>Good, you're married. Now here's the I'm just saying that

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<v Speaker 6>in a quick review. I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>give you legal advice on that, but I assume that

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01:08:15.719 --> 01:08:18.880
<v Speaker 6>you were common law married. Now, your common law wife

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<v Speaker 6>died in.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty three, and then you went to the courts win

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<v Speaker 6>to open probate.

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<v Speaker 5>A week after and then it was opened. Why was

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<v Speaker 5>it challenged?

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<v Speaker 13>The daughter challenged it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, that's see. Now That's what I was getting at

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<v Speaker 5>is this is not your daughter. This is her daughter.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a break, brother, Okay, hold on, we'll come

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01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:49.479
<v Speaker 5>right back to you.

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<v Speaker 15>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi Tom Martino here three O three seven one three

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<v Speaker 6>eight two five five. So, uh, we're uh, let's take

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<v Speaker 6>another problem here, and uh, we're just going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to Charles this probate thing. Why did they close it?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to take another problem I should have said

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01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.680
<v Speaker 6>after the break, Why did they close it when your

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<v Speaker 6>daughter contested it?

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<v Speaker 5>On what grounds? Did your daughter contest it? It was

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01:09:55.079 --> 01:10:02.279
<v Speaker 5>her daughter, so she believes she should get everything correct,

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<v Speaker 5>and she probably tried to bring up the fact you're

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<v Speaker 5>not married, right correct? Did the courts recognize you as

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<v Speaker 5>married or not?

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<v Speaker 6>Did they make a decision, no decision, Well, the decision

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<v Speaker 6>was that you couldn't do probate.

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<v Speaker 5>Did they allow her to do probate.

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<v Speaker 13>No, I did probate. It was in the will.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand it was in the will that you opened probate.

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01:10:31.520 --> 01:10:34.399
<v Speaker 13>Yes, and they appointed me executor.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so why did the court? What did the court do? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't tell me. What did they do? Well?

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<v Speaker 13>My witness? No?

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<v Speaker 5>See, hold on, no, Charles, I don't want to hear about.

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<v Speaker 6>The case at all, not one day, not one utter

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01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:56.840
<v Speaker 6>of testimony.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know what did the judge decide in

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01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.359
<v Speaker 5>her favor that it was in the door. Did they

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<v Speaker 5>make her the executor?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, hold on and we'll get our attorney on about this.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Tom Martino, and we have a follow up that

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<v Speaker 6>Deputy Dmitri has been working on with a contractor and

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01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:24.279
<v Speaker 6>more on the Troubleshooter Show. We're working hard to solve problems. Also,

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<v Speaker 6>we have Genesis Tootalexteriors dot Com in the house.

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<v Speaker 5>More on that coming up.

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<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 15>insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 5>one help.

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<v Speaker 15>durand the real estate man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 15>home with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 15>sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all ripped up.

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<v Speaker 1>New need advice so you don't have.

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<v Speaker 5>Come running.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as fast as we can shoot is gonna help

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<v Speaker 2>come Man Dix is the Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, Tom Martine, Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Martino here, welcome to the show.

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01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.840
<v Speaker 6>Let's answer your questions, try to solve problems and take

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01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:36.239
<v Speaker 6>your complaints. And I'm gonna get Charles ready for an

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01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:40.079
<v Speaker 6>attorney because and we'll have the attorney on uh, if

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<v Speaker 6>not later today tomorrow. His common law and wife died

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01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:47.279
<v Speaker 6>in twenty three. He opened probate one week one week later,

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<v Speaker 6>and her daughter contested it. Now here's the thing. The

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01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.680
<v Speaker 6>daughter had standing. The course found and they found you

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01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.520
<v Speaker 6>didn't have standing. So basically the courts were saying you're

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<v Speaker 6>not married because if you were married, how long were

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01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:02.800
<v Speaker 6>you married?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, we didn't have paper, No, how.

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<v Speaker 5>Long were you together? I know you didn't have papers.

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<v Speaker 6>Common law marriage doesn't have papers, but you're married just

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01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:17.640
<v Speaker 6>the same under certain circumstances. Again, it can be challenged

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01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 6>very easily. And it was so how long were you together?

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<v Speaker 13>Twenty years?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay? And that whole time you talked about her as

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<v Speaker 5>being your wife. Yeah, okay, exclusive, Now did you live together.

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<v Speaker 13>The whole time?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Charles, I don't see why the courts said you

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01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 6>were not a spouse and we're not entitled to any

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<v Speaker 6>Did they grant you anything at all? Like spousal rites,

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<v Speaker 6>which is half of the estate. It's ten percent a year, No,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's ten No, it's over ten years. It's

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01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:01.600
<v Speaker 6>fifty percent of the year state So however many percent

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<v Speaker 6>that would be per year? So you're saying that they

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<v Speaker 6>you got nothing, and they appointed her daughter, right, and

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<v Speaker 6>her daughter is now the personal representative, right, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>Now that doesn't mean that you lost your rights. It

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<v Speaker 6>just means you're not the personal representative. And frankly, Charles,

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<v Speaker 6>that's a pain in the ass. But can you show

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<v Speaker 6>by will that or by common law it self? But

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01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 6>can you show by will that she had meant to

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<v Speaker 6>leave you?

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<v Speaker 10>Stuff?

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<v Speaker 13>I found a new will, and when was the new will?

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01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:49.079
<v Speaker 13>Drafted two years after the first one.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, her latest will?

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01:14:52.359 --> 01:14:57.039
<v Speaker 6>What does her latest will say.

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01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:57.640
<v Speaker 13>That she's leaving me the house?

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<v Speaker 5>And the daughter can and contest that. What is the

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<v Speaker 5>is the daughter saying.

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<v Speaker 13>No, hey, I just got served papers.

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01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.199
<v Speaker 5>Why would you get served papers?

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01:15:11.479 --> 01:15:14.079
<v Speaker 13>She found emotion to dismiss.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, to just okay? Okay? And what why is she

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01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:21.960
<v Speaker 6>what inner motion? Why does she say she wants the

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<v Speaker 6>will contested?

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<v Speaker 5>Because she's doing everything the right way And I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>saying you didn't do things the right way.

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<v Speaker 6>There was really nothing for you to do. You live

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<v Speaker 6>with a woman, and now you just want to get

1463
01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 6>the house she said she would leave you. So what

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<v Speaker 6>is in the estate other than the house.

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<v Speaker 13>Personal furnature?

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<v Speaker 5>Is the house paid off?

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<v Speaker 17>Yes?

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01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 5>How much is it worth?

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<v Speaker 13>Tis hundred?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>And the daughter saying hell no. So what does your

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<v Speaker 6>attorneys say to do at this point?

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<v Speaker 13>I don't have one.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you need to find an attorney and fight this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you do.

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<v Speaker 6>They look past your common law marriage, but that was

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<v Speaker 6>only for personal representative. If they made the daughter the

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01:16:17.239 --> 01:16:20.600
<v Speaker 6>personal representative, she still has to abide.

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<v Speaker 5>By the will.

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<v Speaker 6>So just because she's personal representative doesn't equal, I get everything.

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<v Speaker 6>So Charles, you really need an attorney, and uh, you know,

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01:16:35.560 --> 01:16:38.359
<v Speaker 6>and I do have a I do have one that

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<v Speaker 6>we that you should at least check with, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>Dan McKenzie. Mackenzie law. Let me give you his number.

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<v Speaker 6>He got something to take his number down. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>three oh three co plans. Just follow the letters on

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<v Speaker 6>your phone A three to three C plans and on

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<v Speaker 6>the on the internet. It's on the net. It's co

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<v Speaker 6>plans dot co. Thank you, all right, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 6>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five. Now, Dimitri,

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<v Speaker 6>you're working with a guy named Roger. This is a

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01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 6>follow up and uh what is.

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<v Speaker 5>We get to the camera here? What is this all about?

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<v Speaker 10>Rome?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, you know you may recall that on June ninth,

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<v Speaker 11>Dorothy Roger's wife called because they had contracted with a

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<v Speaker 11>door knocker for some concrete and asphalt work in their driveway.

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<v Speaker 5>And that call was when that was on the ninth.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, Dorothy called this and I have since began to

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<v Speaker 11>work with with Roger. So they contracted with somebody who

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<v Speaker 11>came to their door and it's called C NJ Concrete

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01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:47.399
<v Speaker 11>and Asphalt Repair.

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01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I remember that.

1504
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and since then, Dorothy and Roger sent me, excuse it,

1505
01:17:52.399 --> 01:17:55.880
<v Speaker 11>at least a dozen photographs of just an awful looking.

1506
01:17:56.239 --> 01:18:00.640
<v Speaker 5>They put steps on the house and they did a

1507
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 5>terrible job.

1508
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:04.600
<v Speaker 6>They came back and redid the job, additional work on

1509
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:10.520
<v Speaker 6>like diamond cutting the driveway, and so the contracted amount

1510
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:13.520
<v Speaker 6>of forty nine hundred she paid in full. The job

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01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 6>was completed around Well she's saying it's not complete.

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01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:20.680
<v Speaker 11>Well, you know, it's hard to tell from the photos

1513
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:24.479
<v Speaker 11>the degree of completion, but if it was redone, it really.

1514
01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Was done kind of amateur issually in my opinion, and

1515
01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:29.800
<v Speaker 1>so it was really you went out and looked at it.

1516
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:32.760
<v Speaker 1>They sent me dozens of photo I can't go out

1517
01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:33.199
<v Speaker 1>got it.

1518
01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:38.000
<v Speaker 11>And what Roger wanted was surprisingly only a seven hundred

1519
01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:41.119
<v Speaker 11>dollars refund. Why I'm not sure how he came up

1520
01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:43.119
<v Speaker 11>with that, but that's what he wanted.

1521
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:44.319
<v Speaker 5>And that was Roger and Dorothy.

1522
01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:48.279
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And so I actually was able to get a

1524
01:18:48.279 --> 01:18:53.560
<v Speaker 11>hold of Grandpa Joe. It's CNJA Concrete and Asphalt repairs.

1525
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:57.600
<v Speaker 5>And last week, Grandpa Joe, this is really your grandfather.

1526
01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Well I don't know.

1527
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 11>About okay, actual status. See, I know he goes by

1528
01:19:01.039 --> 01:19:04.399
<v Speaker 11>Grandpa Joe, and Grandpa Joe told me that he'll come

1529
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:08.760
<v Speaker 11>by Roger's house this week and give him seven hundred bucks.

1530
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:12.000
<v Speaker 11>So I talked with Roger. He thought that would be

1531
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.199
<v Speaker 11>pretty cool if that actually happened. And Roger told me

1532
01:19:15.239 --> 01:19:18.119
<v Speaker 11>that he'll call us back and tell us what happens.

1533
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>So apparently he's on the line to kind of fill

1534
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:21.039
<v Speaker 1>us in on the latest.

1535
01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:26.399
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so what's going on with you, sir Dorothy and.

1536
01:19:28.039 --> 01:19:28.399
<v Speaker 10>Roger?

1537
01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:29.359
<v Speaker 5>What's going on?

1538
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:34.199
<v Speaker 21>Roger, Well, it's Thursday. I have not had any contact

1539
01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 21>with Grandpa Joe. And what I've found out who these

1540
01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:42.479
<v Speaker 21>people trying to communicate with him is they will tell

1541
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:46.840
<v Speaker 21>you exactly what you want to hear and do anything.

1542
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:50.199
<v Speaker 5>About it, even Grandpa Joe.

1543
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:55.399
<v Speaker 21>Even Grandpa Joe, you know that's not the owner.

1544
01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.039
<v Speaker 1>We don't even know who the owner is.

1545
01:19:59.279 --> 01:19:59.520
<v Speaker 5>Tom.

1546
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.319
<v Speaker 11>What one of the problems is I was unable to

1547
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.840
<v Speaker 11>locate a company called CNJ Concrete and Asphalt Repairs with

1548
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:11.199
<v Speaker 11>the Secretary of State's office. Furthermore, Roger sent me photocopies

1549
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 11>of at least two checks that they wrote to this company,

1550
01:20:14.199 --> 01:20:16.640
<v Speaker 11>but all the checks and I take that back, all

1551
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.319
<v Speaker 11>the checks were written to individuals. They wrote checks to

1552
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:22.680
<v Speaker 11>either two or three different indivents. Weird, So I don't

1553
01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:26.319
<v Speaker 11>think there's even a company like that. There is no

1554
01:20:26.520 --> 01:20:28.920
<v Speaker 11>address on their web they don't have a website, there's

1555
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:30.359
<v Speaker 11>no address on their business card.

1556
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just first names.

1557
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:34.720
<v Speaker 5>That's really This is really an informal door knocking.

1558
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1559
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.159
<v Speaker 11>I think it's just the two or three clowns that

1560
01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 11>go around and you know, collect money for amateurist jobs.

1561
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:43.960
<v Speaker 11>So if Grandpa Joe does not show up today or

1562
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.560
<v Speaker 11>tomorrow with a check, I think Roger and Dorothy are out.

1563
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.439
<v Speaker 11>I mean, there doesn't even seem to be a company

1564
01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:52.840
<v Speaker 11>to go after. So Roger, I'm really sorry to hear

1565
01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:55.840
<v Speaker 11>that he hasn't been there yet. But man, there's I

1566
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:57.600
<v Speaker 11>don't think there's anything else to be done.

1567
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:03.159
<v Speaker 21>Well, yeah, I agree with that, and I if I

1568
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:04.840
<v Speaker 21>knew how to get a hold of them, I would

1569
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.840
<v Speaker 21>have in the meantime, And like you say, you can't

1570
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:11.520
<v Speaker 21>get a hold of anybody, Well no, I did get.

1571
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:13.279
<v Speaker 1>A hold of people. I'm just saying that.

1572
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:16.600
<v Speaker 6>They promised the world. They just keep talking. They just

1573
01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 6>make promises.

1574
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have phone numbers for all these guys.

1575
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:26.079
<v Speaker 21>Yes, the original thing was my front steps leading.

1576
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:27.680
<v Speaker 5>Up to my house. Right, I remember that.

1577
01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 21>They did a terrible job.

1578
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:34.199
<v Speaker 5>They redid it, right, Yeah, and you're still not happy. Listen, listen,

1579
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:35.600
<v Speaker 5>Let's wait, let's just do this.

1580
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:39.079
<v Speaker 6>Let's wait to see if we hear from them, and

1581
01:21:39.119 --> 01:21:41.079
<v Speaker 6>if you hear from them, I mean, and then just

1582
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.399
<v Speaker 6>let us know and we'll take it from there. That's

1583
01:21:43.479 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 6>that's all I can tell you. Three oh three seven

1584
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 6>one three eight two five five.

1585
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:56.640
<v Speaker 15>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel Roofing

1586
01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:57.319
<v Speaker 15>dot com.

1587
01:21:57.359 --> 01:21:59.399
<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1588
01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.960
<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up, free no obligation comparison

1589
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:09.640
<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1590
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:12.399
<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1591
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:15.279
<v Speaker 15>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1592
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:17.560
<v Speaker 15>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

1593
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.960
<v Speaker 15>com to list your home with Remax Alliance. Three oh

1594
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:27.119
<v Speaker 15>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1595
01:22:28.520 --> 01:22:31.720
<v Speaker 8>All right, three oh three seven one three A two

1596
01:22:31.880 --> 01:22:34.199
<v Speaker 8>five five We got lines open. You've been ripped off

1597
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:36.960
<v Speaker 8>for taking advantage of or just need some help? Get

1598
01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:37.880
<v Speaker 8>those calls in.

1599
01:22:37.800 --> 01:22:38.760
<v Speaker 7>Get him in right now.

1600
01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:42.239
<v Speaker 8>Three oh three Martino, three oh three seven one three

1601
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:45.079
<v Speaker 8>A two five five. I got Deputy bo sitting across

1602
01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:50.039
<v Speaker 8>from me, Deputy D at the remote undercover location. And

1603
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:52.800
<v Speaker 8>here's the deal. I got to assign him some cases.

1604
01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:55.319
<v Speaker 8>Three oh three Martino. Now I want to jump into

1605
01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 8>all the hell we've got and guys, please, and I'm

1606
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:01.760
<v Speaker 8>talking to Mark uh and I'm talking to Matt So.

1607
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:07.399
<v Speaker 8>Matt Stanford's with Paragon Services, Mark Schamansky's with Genesis Total Exteriors,

1608
01:23:07.439 --> 01:23:09.560
<v Speaker 8>who we talk about all the time. By the way,

1609
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:12.199
<v Speaker 8>your guys did a bang up job on our house. Man,

1610
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:13.680
<v Speaker 8>it looks absolutely great.

1611
01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:14.039
<v Speaker 10>Great.

1612
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.800
<v Speaker 8>In fact, when Omar came and did that last punch list,

1613
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:19.960
<v Speaker 8>he did some really cool stuff. I'm not gonna I'm

1614
01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:21.760
<v Speaker 8>not gonna tell you about it because I'm afraid you

1615
01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 8>might build.

1616
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 10>Me extra That's right.

1617
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:24.920
<v Speaker 5>I think I have a change art coming.

1618
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:25.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, change order.

1619
01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:30.600
<v Speaker 8>Hey I heard lemon size hail. Did this really happen

1620
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:33.279
<v Speaker 8>or is that just something? I mean it was out

1621
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:40.079
<v Speaker 8>east or something baseball size hail that'll go.

1622
01:23:40.039 --> 01:23:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Through you, that'll damage your coffee table.

1623
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:43.560
<v Speaker 7>So there's nothing.

1624
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:45.840
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I don't care like I've got a hailproof

1625
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:49.760
<v Speaker 8>roof and it's thick. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because

1626
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:53.279
<v Speaker 8>you gotta think of how quick that stuff just because

1627
01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 8>the pure weight of it. Now, when I looked at it,

1628
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:58.039
<v Speaker 8>Suzanne had some pictures. Here's what I thought.

1629
01:23:58.720 --> 01:23:59.640
<v Speaker 7>It looked like a.

1630
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:03.399
<v Speaker 8>Bunch of the smaller stuff somehow all got together in

1631
01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:04.359
<v Speaker 8>the atmosphere.

1632
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:07.000
<v Speaker 10>That's how it happens, is you have you start with

1633
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:09.960
<v Speaker 10>pea size. Yeah, a rain drop freezes as it's coming down,

1634
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:12.159
<v Speaker 10>and then wind will push it back up and it

1635
01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:15.439
<v Speaker 10>connects with another it refreezes, and there refreezes and it

1636
01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:17.640
<v Speaker 10>comes down it's melting and gets pushed back up in

1637
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:19.720
<v Speaker 10>the air and refreezes. That that's how you get the

1638
01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 10>bigger head.

1639
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 8>There was holes in houses, like you said, literally holes

1640
01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 8>in the roof, sunlight coming in.

1641
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:29.359
<v Speaker 10>Dogs, you know, I mean livestock.

1642
01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:31.640
<v Speaker 7>So what do you oh, yeah, then you think of

1643
01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:35.439
<v Speaker 7>that like livestock, especially out east. I mean, that's crazy.

1644
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:38.640
<v Speaker 8>But besides, and this is why I like why you

1645
01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.840
<v Speaker 8>guys teamed up. So besides the roof and mark you

1646
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:44.720
<v Speaker 8>guys do everything you do. If it's stuccoh you can

1647
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:47.279
<v Speaker 8>redo the stucco, siding, paint.

1648
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:47.520
<v Speaker 7>Whatever, it is.

1649
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:50.960
<v Speaker 8>But Matt, you go out there because a lot of

1650
01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:53.920
<v Speaker 8>these insurance companies simply want to say, oh yeah, we'll

1651
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:56.520
<v Speaker 8>pay for the roof, and then they kind of slime

1652
01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:59.880
<v Speaker 8>ball their way away and what other things. When you've

1653
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.279
<v Speaker 8>at decent sized hel and it doesn't have to be

1654
01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:04.800
<v Speaker 8>hal that comes through your roof like we're talking about.

1655
01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 8>But when you get a good hailstorm, what are other

1656
01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:11.600
<v Speaker 8>things you guys are finding on homes a roofers, don't.

1657
01:25:11.399 --> 01:25:13.800
<v Speaker 10>I tell you? I mean, we just had one Elizabeth

1658
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 10>that happened with about three weeks ago, four weeks ago.

1659
01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 7>That was a big one that hit our that hit

1660
01:25:18.359 --> 01:25:19.159
<v Speaker 7>frank down.

1661
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:22.439
<v Speaker 10>Too right, and that one, I mean a home before

1662
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.720
<v Speaker 10>had some hailed image on the roof. But now all

1663
01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.439
<v Speaker 10>their windows are getting replaced. Every one of their metal

1664
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:28.920
<v Speaker 10>clad windows has damaged.

1665
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:31.199
<v Speaker 8>And listen to this, people, this is one of the

1666
01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 8>biggest saying. Insurance companies want to just glance over the window.

1667
01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:38.880
<v Speaker 8>The glass doesn't have to be broke by any means

1668
01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:42.399
<v Speaker 8>that little seal. Explain, the seal on the windows match.

1669
01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:44.840
<v Speaker 4>So if part of the frame of the window is

1670
01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.199
<v Speaker 4>damaged not I mean a lot of people just look

1671
01:25:47.199 --> 01:25:49.399
<v Speaker 4>at the glass and say, hey, that's not broken. But

1672
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:53.960
<v Speaker 4>if the frame is damaged or the plastic beating.

1673
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.520
<v Speaker 8>Or pure MIC's not working, man, we got to get

1674
01:25:56.560 --> 01:25:57.840
<v Speaker 8>you swapped around somewhere.

1675
01:25:57.960 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 7>Go over to that other sea.

1676
01:25:59.239 --> 01:26:02.000
<v Speaker 10>Is mine working because I think yours is okay because

1677
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:03.319
<v Speaker 10>my headpines aren't.

1678
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:05.600
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, go ahead, So pick back up on the seal.

1679
01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:09.000
<v Speaker 8>So even though the glass isn't broke on windows, the

1680
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:10.199
<v Speaker 8>seal can get broke.

1681
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:11.680
<v Speaker 7>And you explain what that means.

1682
01:26:11.760 --> 01:26:14.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, So basically, your your glass pack is called an

1683
01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:17.439
<v Speaker 10>ig pack, is a sealed piece of glasses, a piece

1684
01:26:17.479 --> 01:26:19.720
<v Speaker 10>of glass with a space rim between and that makes

1685
01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:22.880
<v Speaker 10>a double pine glass or tipple pane or quad paying glass.

1686
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.520
<v Speaker 10>And so that that air gap can get compromised by

1687
01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:31.000
<v Speaker 10>getting hit and if that happens. If that happens, then

1688
01:26:32.279 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 10>your your window is obviously just defective at that point

1689
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:37.199
<v Speaker 10>and it needs to be get redone.

1690
01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:40.199
<v Speaker 8>And you can't necessarily see it so unless someone inspects

1691
01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:43.199
<v Speaker 8>it correct. Now, where you see condensation when it gets

1692
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:43.800
<v Speaker 8>really hot.

1693
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:45.800
<v Speaker 10>And you know a lot of times in the morning

1694
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:47.600
<v Speaker 10>or in the evening is when you get to see

1695
01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:48.279
<v Speaker 10>the condensation.

1696
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:51.319
<v Speaker 7>How many times do you run into that matt all

1697
01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 7>the time.

1698
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:55.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean there's there are people that they slowly see

1699
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 4>fog creeping in between the panes, and that's a broken seal.

1700
01:26:58.960 --> 01:27:01.720
<v Speaker 4>Happens all the time, all the time. And insurance company

1701
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:03.760
<v Speaker 4>sure as hell, don't point it out right. And I

1702
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:06.199
<v Speaker 4>gotta say, the four your thieves at some point. Well,

1703
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:08.640
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like with a whole warranty. You know,

1704
01:27:08.840 --> 01:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>you have a whole warranty. They show up trying to

1705
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:14.520
<v Speaker 4>figure out a way to deny the claim.

1706
01:27:14.640 --> 01:27:16.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's it, But they don't even they don't even

1707
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.920
<v Speaker 7>point it out right, don't They'll they'll overlook it and

1708
01:27:20.039 --> 01:27:22.199
<v Speaker 7>mark how much your windows Let's say some of these

1709
01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 7>homes hit in Elizabeth are up in a monument wherever.

1710
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:28.399
<v Speaker 7>It is, like, how much your windows in the average

1711
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:29.640
<v Speaker 7>house you get replaced?

1712
01:27:29.680 --> 01:27:32.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean you're like twenty thirty grand, Oh

1713
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:33.000
<v Speaker 5>for sure.

1714
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:34.880
<v Speaker 10>I mean you know you're looking anywhere from you know,

1715
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:37.960
<v Speaker 10>fifteen eighteen hundred bucks a hole to three thousand dollars

1716
01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:38.319
<v Speaker 10>a hole.

1717
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:41.239
<v Speaker 8>What else besides windows? Everybody knows about the roof, how

1718
01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:42.159
<v Speaker 8>about your siding?

1719
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:42.680
<v Speaker 5>Size?

1720
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:44.840
<v Speaker 10>Siding? This the same house we're talking at.

1721
01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:47.760
<v Speaker 8>Our house when you did it after the hailstorm We

1722
01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 8>didn't actually have damage on the hardy board, but the

1723
01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:54.159
<v Speaker 8>paint was damaged and you got to say full paint

1724
01:27:54.279 --> 01:27:56.039
<v Speaker 8>out on all four exactly.

1725
01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:57.960
<v Speaker 10>And that that that can happen too where just the

1726
01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:00.159
<v Speaker 10>paints damage in the side in itself is okay if

1727
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.640
<v Speaker 10>you have vinyl sighting, it could but holds through that right.

1728
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.800
<v Speaker 8>Through it right Or that happened out by the airport

1729
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:08.800
<v Speaker 8>years ago. It looked like someone took a baseball shooter.

1730
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:12.159
<v Speaker 5>It just plused. It looks like Swiss cheese.

1731
01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:14.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like Swiss cheese. And then what else? So like

1732
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.880
<v Speaker 7>my outbuildings, you ended up doing roofside yeah.

1733
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:20.119
<v Speaker 10>And so that you obviously got even fencing. See your

1734
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 10>fencing go around the house.

1735
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.479
<v Speaker 8>We've got a lot of people have that plastic fence,

1736
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:26.920
<v Speaker 8>vinyl fence, popholes.

1737
01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:28.000
<v Speaker 10>Right in it, right right into it.

1738
01:28:28.079 --> 01:28:32.439
<v Speaker 7>Yep, your deck saying you got my deck covered that particular, well, well.

1739
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:34.119
<v Speaker 4>Look at that very often. But that's a big one too.

1740
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:36.960
<v Speaker 7>So people that don't know Matt's a public adjuster. This

1741
01:28:37.119 --> 01:28:37.920
<v Speaker 7>is really important.

1742
01:28:37.920 --> 01:28:41.520
<v Speaker 8>When your insurance company comes out and like I'm saying,

1743
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:43.479
<v Speaker 8>all they want to talk about is a roof after

1744
01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:46.399
<v Speaker 8>a hailstorm. There is so many other things they're just

1745
01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:48.640
<v Speaker 8>not going to bring up to you. They're just not

1746
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:50.399
<v Speaker 8>going to do it. If you have a lot of

1747
01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:52.960
<v Speaker 8>fencing you need to walk around, even if it's a

1748
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:57.239
<v Speaker 8>six foot picketed privacy fence, if that hail hits, it

1749
01:28:57.319 --> 01:29:00.960
<v Speaker 8>damages the stain and basically makes it anything you get

1750
01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:02.199
<v Speaker 8>that in the claim.

1751
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>That's right offences, especially if it's stayed. If it's just

1752
01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:07.760
<v Speaker 4>raw wood, you know, I can get a power washed

1753
01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:10.239
<v Speaker 4>for you if there's broken pickets, obviously at least money

1754
01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>to power wash it, and then use that money for

1755
01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:14.560
<v Speaker 4>something else if you want. But the bottom line is

1756
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:15.520
<v Speaker 4>get as much as possible.

1757
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:16.399
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, get as much.

1758
01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:19.079
<v Speaker 8>What is your average matt like if someone comes out

1759
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:22.239
<v Speaker 8>and let's say the roof is twenty grand, the insurance

1760
01:29:22.279 --> 01:29:24.840
<v Speaker 8>company cuts them a check for twenty grand, and in

1761
01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.000
<v Speaker 8>a bad hailstorm, what do you generally up end up

1762
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:29.840
<v Speaker 8>getting after you get involved?

1763
01:29:30.039 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 4>Usually I mean, at a minimum, on an average, probably

1764
01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 4>thirty five to forty percent. But some of them have more.

1765
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:38.319
<v Speaker 4>But some of them I'm able to double. I remember

1766
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:40.479
<v Speaker 4>that skylight one they offered them.

1767
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 8>It was the most ridiculous thing I've ever is the

1768
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:45.399
<v Speaker 8>best example I have of why to get a public adjuster.

1769
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:48.640
<v Speaker 8>They offered her eight hundred bucks. Actually they offered her

1770
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:51.920
<v Speaker 8>eighteen hundred, but she had one thousand dollars deductible, which

1771
01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 8>brought down to check eight hundred bucks. I think you

1772
01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.399
<v Speaker 8>got her around sixty to one hundred thousand dollars up

1773
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:01.800
<v Speaker 8>to eighty eighty grand. And then the other big one was.

1774
01:30:01.800 --> 01:30:05.359
<v Speaker 4>A lab laboratory in Wirsville the fires.

1775
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:08.560
<v Speaker 8>Listen to this, folks. The insurance company came in. It

1776
01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:11.760
<v Speaker 8>was a commercial claim. They offered them how much originally

1777
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:13.159
<v Speaker 8>for smoke damage?

1778
01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:15.079
<v Speaker 5>They wanted to clean it for sixty grand?

1779
01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:18.560
<v Speaker 7>Sixty grand? What did you end up getting them? Almost

1780
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:23.119
<v Speaker 7>six million, six million dollars on both of mine. How

1781
01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:24.439
<v Speaker 7>much were my initials?

1782
01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:25.039
<v Speaker 5>Zero?

1783
01:30:25.399 --> 01:30:27.359
<v Speaker 7>Zero on both mine?

1784
01:30:27.399 --> 01:30:30.720
<v Speaker 8>My insurance company said pound sand. As soon as I

1785
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.960
<v Speaker 8>got Matt involved. On the first one eighty grand, it

1786
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 8>went from zero to hero zero to eighty thousand. On

1787
01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:40.760
<v Speaker 8>the second one it went from zero. We're that finish

1788
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:48.600
<v Speaker 8>out March. I think insurance company adjusters are total thieves.

1789
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:50.600
<v Speaker 7>That's what I think. That's my opinion.

1790
01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:53.239
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure there's some good ones out there, but when

1791
01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:56.640
<v Speaker 8>there's a big hailstorm like what we're talking about these.

1792
01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:58.319
<v Speaker 7>Guys going to lockdown mode.

1793
01:30:58.399 --> 01:31:01.399
<v Speaker 8>All they're trying to do is basically get away with

1794
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:05.399
<v Speaker 8>writing zero or the least possible amount. And that's where

1795
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.479
<v Speaker 8>these guys come in. These guys can come out to

1796
01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:10.199
<v Speaker 8>your damaged property and look at more than the roof.

1797
01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:13.239
<v Speaker 8>You got any questions? Three oh three seven one three

1798
01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:16.239
<v Speaker 8>eight two five five, I've got to break. It gets me, actually,

1799
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:20.000
<v Speaker 8>it truly gets my blood pressure up because both times

1800
01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:23.000
<v Speaker 8>Matt I was literally hit with denials.

1801
01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Both times, and how many times does that happen to people?

1802
01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:27.920
<v Speaker 7>But they don't know to call a public.

1803
01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:29.560
<v Speaker 4>They don't know they have rights, they don't know that

1804
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:30.159
<v Speaker 4>we exist.

1805
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:32.000
<v Speaker 7>They don't even understand their policy.

1806
01:31:32.119 --> 01:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>They just go, oh, we don't have any damage good

1807
01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:37.079
<v Speaker 4>and they have no idea. They're sitting on tens of

1808
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>thousands and they're like.

1809
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.600
<v Speaker 8>Oh, hell, State Farm or Safeco or whoever told me

1810
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:41.239
<v Speaker 8>I had none.

1811
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:42.560
<v Speaker 7>I guess that means I had none.

1812
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:51.000
<v Speaker 8>Everybody holds my three oh three Martino.

1813
01:31:51.239 --> 01:31:54.520
<v Speaker 15>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel roofing

1814
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:55.199
<v Speaker 15>dot com.

1815
01:31:55.239 --> 01:31:57.279
<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1816
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.840
<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

1817
01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:07.520
<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1818
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.239
<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

1819
01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:13.159
<v Speaker 15>to seven one help. You'll think you're his only customer

1820
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.439
<v Speaker 15>when you choose Frank durand the real estate man dot

1821
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:18.800
<v Speaker 15>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three all

1822
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:23.079
<v Speaker 15>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1823
01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:25.880
<v Speaker 7>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

1824
01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:26.399
<v Speaker 7>five five.

1825
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:28.680
<v Speaker 8>We've been talking about all kinds of things, but this

1826
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:31.439
<v Speaker 8>hailstorm and when it comes to adjusters. We had a

1827
01:32:31.479 --> 01:32:34.359
<v Speaker 8>call during the break someone wanted your phone number, Matt.

1828
01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:37.079
<v Speaker 8>But it is so important to get a public adjuster.

1829
01:32:37.640 --> 01:32:40.920
<v Speaker 8>I just can't stress this enough. I literally would have

1830
01:32:41.039 --> 01:32:44.079
<v Speaker 8>left over one hundred and thirty thousand in the last

1831
01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.279
<v Speaker 8>few years on the table if I didn't hire Matt.

1832
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:50.000
<v Speaker 8>And I'll be straight with you, here's how Matt works.

1833
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:52.079
<v Speaker 8>What do you charge if they bring you in in

1834
01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:55.680
<v Speaker 8>the beginning twenty percent, It's it's always ten ten percent.

1835
01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:56.359
<v Speaker 7>So listen.

1836
01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.239
<v Speaker 8>If they're offering you thirty thousand dollars and you bring

1837
01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:03.039
<v Speaker 8>Matt in and he gets you sixty, you got to

1838
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:05.399
<v Speaker 8>give him ten percent of that. But a lot of

1839
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:07.760
<v Speaker 8>the times you kind of get paid by the claim too,

1840
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.760
<v Speaker 8>because because there's things in the language where say the GC,

1841
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:16.880
<v Speaker 8>the general contractor gets an additional ten percent over the.

1842
01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Damage twenty percent, So you're getting overhead and profit is

1843
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 4>what that's called.

1844
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:24.960
<v Speaker 8>If he comes in and gets you overhead and profit,

1845
01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:29.159
<v Speaker 8>for example, you end up not paying him anything. In fact,

1846
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.159
<v Speaker 8>you end up in some cases making ten percent more

1847
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:33.119
<v Speaker 8>to put in your boxy.

1848
01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Right then, I wouldn't be around very long if it

1849
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:37.600
<v Speaker 4>wasn't a win win win, No, of course.

1850
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:39.880
<v Speaker 8>So I mean if you go even if you had

1851
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:42.399
<v Speaker 8>to pay ten percent of what he gets for you,

1852
01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.359
<v Speaker 8>think about it. They offer you thirty thousand, great, you

1853
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:48.359
<v Speaker 8>get thirty thousand bucks. Matt gets involved, gets you one

1854
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.640
<v Speaker 8>hundred thousand, and you end up giving him ten percent

1855
01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:54.319
<v Speaker 8>of that hundred thousand. And that's always at the end.

1856
01:33:54.399 --> 01:33:56.680
<v Speaker 8>It's not like they pay you up front. They pay

1857
01:33:56.720 --> 01:33:59.279
<v Speaker 8>you based on performance. But even if you got you

1858
01:33:59.319 --> 01:34:01.800
<v Speaker 8>a million, it's still it's going to be ten percent.

1859
01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:05.920
<v Speaker 8>Although I really big claims like that, you negotiate sure

1860
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:09.279
<v Speaker 8>that one like a six, you're not getting ten percent.

1861
01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:11.359
<v Speaker 4>Gave them a break, yeah, of course.

1862
01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:14.479
<v Speaker 8>But on your typical job too, homeowners, you pay him

1863
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:17.159
<v Speaker 8>ten percent, But what would you rather have thirty thousand

1864
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:20.840
<v Speaker 8>or ninety thousand on one hundred thousand dollars claim that

1865
01:34:20.880 --> 01:34:21.720
<v Speaker 8>he gets right?

1866
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:23.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's ridiculous.

1867
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:25.720
<v Speaker 8>But once again, I want people to understand how many,

1868
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:29.720
<v Speaker 8>how many home policies do not have overhead and profit.

1869
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:32.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I've ever seen one that doesn't have it. Now,

1870
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:34.960
<v Speaker 4>whether or not they want to pay it is a fight.

1871
01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:37.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you got to fight for it. So if he

1872
01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 7>gets you overhead in profit, you can he cost you nothing.

1873
01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:44.880
<v Speaker 8>He literally costs you nothing. And let's explain what overhead

1874
01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:48.239
<v Speaker 8>and profit is. Overhead and profit generally you can go

1875
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:51.760
<v Speaker 8>after if there's more than one thing wrong with the house.

1876
01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Is that right?

1877
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, it used to be the three trades rule. So

1878
01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:57.319
<v Speaker 4>if they explain the silly trades. Let's say you have

1879
01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.680
<v Speaker 4>hail damage and your roof got hit, and you need

1880
01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>paint on your siding yep, and you've got some windows

1881
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:04.520
<v Speaker 4>that are broken.

1882
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:06.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's three years the trades.

1883
01:35:06.439 --> 01:35:09.319
<v Speaker 4>So that warrants overhead and profit because you need somebody

1884
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>to manage those separate trades.

1885
01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:13.199
<v Speaker 8>Yes, So like on my last claim that they told

1886
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 8>me zero, you got me money for the person that

1887
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:19.960
<v Speaker 8>would put in the sliding door. That was the door company,

1888
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.119
<v Speaker 8>the hardwood people because our hardwood was ruined.

1889
01:35:23.359 --> 01:35:26.199
<v Speaker 7>And then what that brought up was paint because when

1890
01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:28.880
<v Speaker 7>they did the hardwood, you have to remove the base

1891
01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:31.199
<v Speaker 7>and then put the of course the base back in,

1892
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.319
<v Speaker 7>and then repaint whatever walls there were. So those were

1893
01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:35.920
<v Speaker 7>the three and you got me overhead and.

1894
01:35:35.920 --> 01:35:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Profit exactly the perfect example of that.

1895
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:40.800
<v Speaker 7>And then another one. I'll give you another good one.

1896
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:43.760
<v Speaker 8>Another thing that's in a lot of these homeowners is

1897
01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:45.520
<v Speaker 8>if you have to be out of the house, Like

1898
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:48.680
<v Speaker 8>when we were having our hardwood done, we ended up

1899
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:51.840
<v Speaker 8>just staying in our RV right in our own driveway.

1900
01:35:52.039 --> 01:35:54.119
<v Speaker 7>But a lot of people don't have that. They might

1901
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.079
<v Speaker 7>have to go to a hotel, and that should be

1902
01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:58.359
<v Speaker 7>covered if you.

1903
01:35:58.399 --> 01:36:00.479
<v Speaker 8>Can't be in the house. The only reason we couldn't

1904
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.039
<v Speaker 8>be in the house is all the dust in everything

1905
01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.079
<v Speaker 8>from doing all the hardwood in our house.

1906
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Right, they should pay for temporary housing, most of them

1907
01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:09.159
<v Speaker 4>up to two years.

1908
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:11.039
<v Speaker 7>And then you guys teamed up together.

1909
01:36:11.199 --> 01:36:14.000
<v Speaker 8>This is what I love so kind of Mark in

1910
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:17.640
<v Speaker 8>Genesis after a hailstorm, you can only be in one place.

1911
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:19.840
<v Speaker 7>You end up you're the one with the license.

1912
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:23.840
<v Speaker 8>You end up doing everything with the insurance company, reading

1913
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:27.399
<v Speaker 8>over the policy that the caller has and making sure

1914
01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:29.920
<v Speaker 8>they get every nickel due to them. But Mark, you

1915
01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.399
<v Speaker 8>and your guys get out there on the ground and

1916
01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:34.920
<v Speaker 8>not only check the roof, because of course you do roofing,

1917
01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:38.239
<v Speaker 8>but you're checking the siding, You're checking the decks, you're

1918
01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:40.720
<v Speaker 8>checking the fencing, you're checking everything.

1919
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we walk around the whole house, the whole property

1920
01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.560
<v Speaker 10>and look for everything that is correct.

1921
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:48.640
<v Speaker 8>One of the things, we've got a little bridge that

1922
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:51.359
<v Speaker 8>goes over our water feature leading in our front door.

1923
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:53.399
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if you remember this, but on that

1924
01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:56.079
<v Speaker 8>one four years ago, part of that eighty thousand, you

1925
01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:59.640
<v Speaker 8>got us standing and restaining on that entire bridge.

1926
01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:02.279
<v Speaker 4>I remember you laughing because you're like, I walk over

1927
01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:05.119
<v Speaker 4>that every day. I never noticed you notice it. But yeah,

1928
01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>we got some money for that.

1929
01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:06.760
<v Speaker 7>It's funny.

1930
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:09.000
<v Speaker 8>You got us money for the deck, which I couldn't believe.

1931
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.039
<v Speaker 8>For the bridge, I couldn't believe. Oh, I'll tell you

1932
01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:13.399
<v Speaker 8>the craziest one that he got his money for.

1933
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:13.760
<v Speaker 5>Mark.

1934
01:37:13.800 --> 01:37:15.279
<v Speaker 7>I bet you can't guess what it was.

1935
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:16.960
<v Speaker 10>Your concrete patio.

1936
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:20.159
<v Speaker 8>Well, actually he did get us that, but that's not

1937
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:23.640
<v Speaker 8>what I'm thinking about, right, Which one landscaping we added?

1938
01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:27.000
<v Speaker 8>They got plummeled and he got us one thousand or

1939
01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:28.520
<v Speaker 8>two thousand bucks for a tree?

1940
01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:31.399
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, to replace the tree. And that's pretty rare that.

1941
01:37:31.560 --> 01:37:33.000
<v Speaker 10>The landscaping one is tough one.

1942
01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:33.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah it is.

1943
01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:36.079
<v Speaker 4>It really has to be blasted pretty good. But I

1944
01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:38.560
<v Speaker 4>got along with that adjuster if you remember so, uh.

1945
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:39.760
<v Speaker 7>Oh, he loves that story.

1946
01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:41.560
<v Speaker 4>He loves this is the first one.

1947
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:45.760
<v Speaker 7>This wasn't the was a guy. Yeah, explain explain adjusters

1948
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:46.359
<v Speaker 7>real quick.

1949
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:49.479
<v Speaker 8>I love this conversation because after a hailstorm, this is

1950
01:37:49.560 --> 01:37:51.640
<v Speaker 8>information everybody should know.

1951
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.199
<v Speaker 7>So I apologize to the callers. I promised, I'll get

1952
01:37:54.199 --> 01:37:54.359
<v Speaker 7>to you.

1953
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:57.600
<v Speaker 8>I promised, But this everybody needs to know this stuff

1954
01:37:57.800 --> 01:38:00.119
<v Speaker 8>because if I have one goal in life, it is

1955
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:03.159
<v Speaker 8>to go after insurance companies because a lot of people

1956
01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:05.079
<v Speaker 8>all they do is pay more and more and more

1957
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:08.000
<v Speaker 8>each year and never turn into a claim or they

1958
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:10.760
<v Speaker 8>get turned down on a claim. And this is where

1959
01:38:10.760 --> 01:38:13.720
<v Speaker 8>a guy like Matt comes in. So adjusters the first

1960
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.640
<v Speaker 8>one we dealt with at my house. I remember he

1961
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.359
<v Speaker 8>didn't work for the insurance company. I had an insurance

1962
01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:22.159
<v Speaker 8>company that I was kind of grandfathered into, and they

1963
01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:25.960
<v Speaker 8>pulled out of Colorado, so they went and hired and independent.

1964
01:38:26.640 --> 01:38:30.640
<v Speaker 8>But a lot of times, someone like Safeco or State Farm,

1965
01:38:30.920 --> 01:38:31.680
<v Speaker 8>they can have an.

1966
01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:33.680
<v Speaker 7>Adjuster that actually works for them.

1967
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1968
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Most of the big companies have their own staff adjusters

1969
01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:39.079
<v Speaker 4>so they can handle the volume. Most of the time,

1970
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 4>they'll deploy from other states.

1971
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:43.399
<v Speaker 8>Which ones are better to work with, if that even

1972
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:44.920
<v Speaker 8>makes sense, or they're all the same.

1973
01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, they're definitely not all the same. The best

1974
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:52.720
<v Speaker 4>ones that I can rattle off, Amika is really good

1975
01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:54.159
<v Speaker 4>and they're their adjusters.

1976
01:38:54.560 --> 01:38:56.880
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Acuity Acuity.

1977
01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:00.520
<v Speaker 8>I never hear anything negative about that company ever, But

1978
01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:02.920
<v Speaker 8>they cost a crapload a month.

1979
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:05.479
<v Speaker 4>And these ones I'm mentioning are not cheap. Chubb that's

1980
01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:05.880
<v Speaker 4>another one.

1981
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:06.520
<v Speaker 7>Hub's great.

1982
01:39:06.640 --> 01:39:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they're expensive policies.

1983
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:11.319
<v Speaker 7>But use your guys should meet with and they actually

1984
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:14.600
<v Speaker 7>go over the should They don't fight with yet tooth

1985
01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:15.840
<v Speaker 7>and nail on everything.

1986
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:18.720
<v Speaker 4>Any supplements or any code upgrade stuff I send to

1987
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:21.520
<v Speaker 4>them is not even a problem for them to address

1988
01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:22.479
<v Speaker 4>and send money out for.

1989
01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:25.079
<v Speaker 8>So I turned in a claim, and I'll tell this

1990
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:28.039
<v Speaker 8>story real quick. I turned into claim less than two

1991
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:31.239
<v Speaker 8>years ago, but we waited like six seven months to

1992
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:34.239
<v Speaker 8>do it because honestly, what happened is water got in,

1993
01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:37.680
<v Speaker 8>hail piled up on our door, and it melted because

1994
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:39.479
<v Speaker 8>the time of year, it melted as soon as the

1995
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.439
<v Speaker 8>storm went away and got in and ruined our hardwood.

1996
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:46.239
<v Speaker 8>But it was remarkable. Hardwood's crazy. When it's wet, it

1997
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.479
<v Speaker 8>can do this wave, but then as it drives over time,

1998
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:52.680
<v Speaker 8>it can almost look perfectly normal again. So we gave

1999
01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:55.600
<v Speaker 8>a time, didn't think about it, and sure enough it

2000
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.319
<v Speaker 8>just didn't go away. So finally I put the claim in.

2001
01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:03.760
<v Speaker 8>Six months later, they outright denied me. He said, nope, nope, nope.

2002
01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:06.800
<v Speaker 8>First of all, you don't have flood insurance. I said, well,

2003
01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:09.760
<v Speaker 8>funny enough I do, and I sent them the addendum

2004
01:40:09.800 --> 01:40:12.279
<v Speaker 8>where I do have flood insurance and then they still

2005
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:14.960
<v Speaker 8>said no. And that's when I called you. The second time,

2006
01:40:15.479 --> 01:40:18.920
<v Speaker 8>Matt gets involved. And first thing he did was he

2007
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:20.960
<v Speaker 8>made him come out to the house. You know, when

2008
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.199
<v Speaker 8>they declined me, they didn't even come out. They just

2009
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:26.079
<v Speaker 8>said I didn't have the coverage for what I was describing.

2010
01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.880
<v Speaker 7>Didn't even look at it, think about that, didn't even

2011
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:29.279
<v Speaker 7>look at it.

2012
01:40:29.439 --> 01:40:31.439
<v Speaker 5>They at least tell you that they to come out

2013
01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:32.760
<v Speaker 5>at least look at it, right.

2014
01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:35.199
<v Speaker 8>So finally he's like, yeah, I'll meet him over there,

2015
01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.479
<v Speaker 8>and we end up meeting him. Matt was actually a

2016
01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:41.560
<v Speaker 8>extra for what movie Into the Wild?

2017
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:43.279
<v Speaker 7>Into the Wild, So if you ever.

2018
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:44.560
<v Speaker 9>Watch him, great bookmark.

2019
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:46.720
<v Speaker 7>Oh it's a great movie. If you haven't watched it,

2020
01:40:46.720 --> 01:40:48.920
<v Speaker 7>it's unbelievable. But he's in the movie all the time.

2021
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:52.399
<v Speaker 7>He's the extra. So what was crazy about it? In

2022
01:40:52.520 --> 01:40:55.239
<v Speaker 7>where I'm getting to and you know, I'm happy, I've

2023
01:40:55.279 --> 01:40:56.439
<v Speaker 7>been married thirty one years.

2024
01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:59.039
<v Speaker 8>Matt's a pretty good looking guy. I mean, I have

2025
01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:01.079
<v Speaker 8>a lot of people to ls you look like who

2026
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.560
<v Speaker 8>what's the guy's name, Bradley Cooper, Like Bradley Cooper, younger

2027
01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:09.239
<v Speaker 8>Bradley Cooper. So this lady comes knocking on the door.

2028
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:11.920
<v Speaker 8>Matt's already at my house waiting for her to show up.

2029
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:13.720
<v Speaker 8>And I didn't know as a lady. He might have known.

2030
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:15.439
<v Speaker 7>You did know because you.

2031
01:41:15.720 --> 01:41:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Sounded like a lady on the phone.

2032
01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:18.439
<v Speaker 1>So I sounded like a lady.

2033
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:21.760
<v Speaker 8>So basically, she comes knocking at the door and I

2034
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 8>look out there, and she was around Matt's age and

2035
01:41:25.680 --> 01:41:28.880
<v Speaker 8>I'm like, slam dunk, this is gonna be easy.

2036
01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:31.520
<v Speaker 7>She comes in, they start walking the house.

2037
01:41:31.880 --> 01:41:35.119
<v Speaker 8>She's eyeballing him like a bulldog looking at a bone.

2038
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:38.720
<v Speaker 8>He's schmoozing her and cruising around the house. And then

2039
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.840
<v Speaker 8>next thing I know, they leave and mac go's h's handled.

2040
01:41:41.880 --> 01:41:45.439
<v Speaker 8>It's gonna be about forty grand just like that. That's

2041
01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:47.479
<v Speaker 8>the kind of person you need. Everybody, hold on.

2042
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:56.159
<v Speaker 15>Go with a sure thing Denver's Best Roofer Excel roofing

2043
01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:56.840
<v Speaker 15>dot com.

2044
01:41:56.880 --> 01:41:58.920
<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2045
01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:05.479
<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

2046
01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:09.159
<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

2047
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:11.880
<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

2048
01:42:11.920 --> 01:42:14.239
<v Speaker 15>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

2049
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.840
<v Speaker 15>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

2050
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.319
<v Speaker 15>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

2051
01:42:20.319 --> 01:42:22.439
<v Speaker 15>all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

2052
01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.239
<v Speaker 7>You know I'm bad at given the numbers.

2053
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.560
<v Speaker 8>That too when we have someone like Matt and Genesis

2054
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.359
<v Speaker 8>in and the reason that is, I mean I get

2055
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:32.600
<v Speaker 8>I start thinking to the insurance company. I don't think

2056
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:35.119
<v Speaker 8>it of Hey, you know people want the phone number,

2057
01:42:35.159 --> 01:42:37.479
<v Speaker 8>but people keep calling. Turn the break and email and

2058
01:42:37.520 --> 01:42:40.079
<v Speaker 8>so listen here it is Paragon Services.

2059
01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:40.800
<v Speaker 7>This is Matt.

2060
01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:44.159
<v Speaker 8>Get him involved right after, in fact, you had hail damage.

2061
01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:45.760
<v Speaker 8>What are the areas that have been nailed?

2062
01:42:45.760 --> 01:42:46.079
<v Speaker 7>Guys?

2063
01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:48.239
<v Speaker 4>Well I heard Milligan. Wherever the heck?

2064
01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:50.680
<v Speaker 5>That is John John John?

2065
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:53.279
<v Speaker 10>Sound everything east of my twenty five up north and

2066
01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:54.159
<v Speaker 10>then down you both?

2067
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:56.359
<v Speaker 7>Do you guys? Cover you go for Collins?

2068
01:42:56.479 --> 01:42:58.439
<v Speaker 10>Yeah? We know we yeah, we go wherever you.

2069
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:01.520
<v Speaker 8>Go, wherever you need to be. Basically what happens is

2070
01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:03.399
<v Speaker 8>they just get you all the money. I mean, I

2071
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:06.119
<v Speaker 8>don't know how to put it. Genesis Total Exteriors h

2072
01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:08.800
<v Speaker 8>three oh three six seven nine eighty five O nine.

2073
01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:11.119
<v Speaker 8>They'll check out not only the roof, but they'll look

2074
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:14.000
<v Speaker 8>at everything you got going three oh three six seven

2075
01:43:14.119 --> 01:43:16.560
<v Speaker 8>nine eighty five oh nine. They'll bring Matt in and

2076
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:20.520
<v Speaker 8>then Paragon Services. That's Matt seven nine seven to two

2077
01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:22.680
<v Speaker 8>six zero zero twenty and Jr.

2078
01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:23.079
<v Speaker 7>And Eve.

2079
01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.119
<v Speaker 8>I promise, and whoever's on three, I'll get to you

2080
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:26.960
<v Speaker 8>as soon as we get past a break.

2081
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:28.079
<v Speaker 7>But we only got a minute.

2082
01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 8>I do want to say this, So if you've had

2083
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:33.760
<v Speaker 8>a claim a hail claim, and what when when can

2084
01:43:33.800 --> 01:43:35.520
<v Speaker 8>you keep reopening one year?

2085
01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:38.600
<v Speaker 4>We have one year typically we have one year to

2086
01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:40.760
<v Speaker 4>file it from the date of the storm.

2087
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:43.720
<v Speaker 7>Now, once you file it, when can you go back

2088
01:43:44.079 --> 01:43:45.199
<v Speaker 7>and add to it?

2089
01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:47.520
<v Speaker 4>You you have two years to dispute it.

2090
01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:48.199
<v Speaker 7>Two years.

2091
01:43:48.199 --> 01:43:50.920
<v Speaker 8>So listen, if you filed a claim like last year

2092
01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:53.479
<v Speaker 8>and it was a good hailstorm and all they did

2093
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:56.840
<v Speaker 8>was the roof, and you think, because you know you've

2094
01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:59.479
<v Speaker 8>walked around your property and there was other damage you

2095
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:04.079
<v Speaker 8>never got paid for, you can reopen that same claim.

2096
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:07.479
<v Speaker 7>And not have any downside. Right, it's not a second claim. No,

2097
01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:09.000
<v Speaker 7>it's the same exact claim.

2098
01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:11.479
<v Speaker 8>There's no In other words, you won't get penalized by

2099
01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:16.119
<v Speaker 8>your insurance company come renewal time and Matt can come

2100
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:18.199
<v Speaker 8>out and try to get you the money.

2101
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:20.159
<v Speaker 7>Even if the roof was already done.

2102
01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:22.680
<v Speaker 4>Right, you know. And it depends also if the customer

2103
01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:27.159
<v Speaker 4>or homeowner has a supplied documentation for their remaining funds

2104
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:29.119
<v Speaker 4>on the claim. A lot of times that closes the

2105
01:44:29.119 --> 01:44:30.800
<v Speaker 4>book and then it's like, okay, well now we have

2106
01:44:30.840 --> 01:44:31.840
<v Speaker 4>to read it. Just depends.

2107
01:44:31.920 --> 01:44:33.039
<v Speaker 7>It depends, but you can.

2108
01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:35.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's worth a phone call to it is

2109
01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:38.039
<v Speaker 8>it's definitely worth a phone call and say here's what happened.

2110
01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:40.199
<v Speaker 10>What if the home owner didn't know that damage then?

2111
01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:42.880
<v Speaker 10>And I'll say it's been a year after Okay, Hold.

2112
01:44:42.720 --> 01:44:45.039
<v Speaker 8>On, guys, we'll do this after seven one nine seven

2113
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<v Speaker 8>two six zero zero twenty seven to one nine seven

2114
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<v Speaker 8>two six zero zero twenty that's Paragum Services. Please call

2115
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<v Speaker 8>these guys up, both of them. Great Eva Jr. Drew

2116
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<v Speaker 8>Drew hold tight.

2117
01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:02.479
<v Speaker 15>Go with a sure thing best roofer Excel Roofing dot com.

2118
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<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

2119
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:11.119
<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation comparison

2120
01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.760
<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

2121
01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:17.560
<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

2122
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:20.439
<v Speaker 15>seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer

2123
01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:22.760
<v Speaker 15>when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot

2124
01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:26.079
<v Speaker 15>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three all

2125
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:28.279
<v Speaker 15>three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

2126
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<v Speaker 5>Ripped news You need so you don't have you come

2127
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<v Speaker 5>run insous fast as you can.

2128
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<v Speaker 2>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 8>Come man, this is.

2130
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:53.520
<v Speaker 3>The Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Welcome my friends to.

2131
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<v Speaker 7>The only show of its kind.

2132
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<v Speaker 8>We've been here for almost fifty years, solving problems, answering questions,

2133
01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:03.960
<v Speaker 8>taking complaints, recovering money. In fact to the tune of

2134
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<v Speaker 8>almost four hundred million dollars in refunds and exchanges and services.

2135
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<v Speaker 7>That's what we do.

2136
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<v Speaker 8>You're dealing with a bad contractor maybe you're dealing with

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<v Speaker 8>a bad landlord, we want to help you.

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<v Speaker 7>We also want to educate you. We've been talking to.

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01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:22.000
<v Speaker 8>A couple great guys that are on a referral list

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01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:26.119
<v Speaker 8>at referral list dot com. Marknmatt. Matt's a public adjuster.

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01:46:26.319 --> 01:46:30.119
<v Speaker 8>Mark Schmansky owns Genesis Total Exteriors. They've done a ton

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01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:32.880
<v Speaker 8>of work for Susanna and I. So any questions you

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01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:35.760
<v Speaker 8>have about hail claims or anything else like that, we'd

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01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:37.439
<v Speaker 8>love to hear from you. I'm going to get right

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01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:40.720
<v Speaker 8>to the phone, though. We've got three people holding one

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01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:45.039
<v Speaker 8>line open. Three oh three, Martino, Eva, your first, Eva.

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01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:46.520
<v Speaker 7>What is going on with you?

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<v Speaker 17>Hi?

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<v Speaker 19>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 22>My son he's thirty seven, and his father that's the way,

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01:46:56.439 --> 01:46:58.039
<v Speaker 22>and his mother and.

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01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:00.640
<v Speaker 5>As grandmother.

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01:47:01.399 --> 01:47:07.680
<v Speaker 22>Sorry and uh, they left the money unclaimed property. The

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01:47:07.840 --> 01:47:10.520
<v Speaker 22>bank called my son out of the blue and told

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01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:12.760
<v Speaker 22>them that they have unclaimed property.

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01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:16.319
<v Speaker 8>And he's next to pen so he didn't have a

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01:47:16.359 --> 01:47:20.079
<v Speaker 8>will or anything, right, No, there was no probate. I

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01:47:20.119 --> 01:47:22.479
<v Speaker 8>mean basically, he's just next to Ken and that's all

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01:47:22.520 --> 01:47:26.279
<v Speaker 8>there is. Yeah, okay, so what's your question.

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<v Speaker 22>I don't know where to go from here.

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01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:31.800
<v Speaker 8>Well, generally with a bank like that, you should be

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01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:34.680
<v Speaker 8>able to go up there with the death certificate in

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01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:37.319
<v Speaker 8>the smallest state affid David. So I want you to

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01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:41.439
<v Speaker 8>remember that second part, smallest state Affidavid. But wait, I

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01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:43.640
<v Speaker 8>just thought of something. Is it under eighty thousand?

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01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:47.600
<v Speaker 22>Well, the bank said it's a substantial amount.

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01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:48.399
<v Speaker 7>I don't know what that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I don't know what that means. But I think

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01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:53.520
<v Speaker 8>the smallest state AFFID David, it can only go up

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01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:56.159
<v Speaker 8>to eighty thousand. So if it's less than eighty thousand,

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01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:59.199
<v Speaker 8>you can fill that out. It's pretty straightforward.

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01:47:59.279 --> 01:48:03.560
<v Speaker 9>I believe you can down it right on the State

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01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:04.720
<v Speaker 9>of Colorado's website.

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<v Speaker 8>You can get it right on the Colorado State website,

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01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:11.560
<v Speaker 8>but just google Colorado's small Estate AFFI David. And then

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01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:15.079
<v Speaker 8>basically you're going to have to have the certified copy

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<v Speaker 8>of the death certificate and then proof he is the son,

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01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:20.279
<v Speaker 8>and then that should be it.

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01:48:20.520 --> 01:48:23.560
<v Speaker 7>That's what a bank would generally need, those three things.

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<v Speaker 22>Yeah, we don't know how they got his number.

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<v Speaker 17>Two.

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<v Speaker 8>We have no idea how that if he was a beneficiary.

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<v Speaker 8>You sure he wasn't listed on the account, it is

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<v Speaker 8>a beneficiary.

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<v Speaker 22>I'm not sure of anything yet.

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01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:38.840
<v Speaker 8>Well, hold on a second. So there's two things. If

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01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.039
<v Speaker 8>he set up his son is a beneficiary.

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01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:42.359
<v Speaker 7>Was he married.

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01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:43.720
<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So if for whatever reason he set up his

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01:48:47.439 --> 01:48:50.319
<v Speaker 8>son is a beneficiary. Like I have a checking account,

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01:48:50.399 --> 01:48:53.520
<v Speaker 8>I have a savings account, I have business accounts on

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01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:57.199
<v Speaker 8>those accounts when I open them up, Suzanne, my wife

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01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:00.640
<v Speaker 8>is a beneficiary. So if I was to drop right now,

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01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:04.600
<v Speaker 8>she would literally inherit those accounts. She'd have to show

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01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:07.479
<v Speaker 8>up to the bank and just show proof that she

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01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:11.720
<v Speaker 8>is the listed beneficiary in their system, and she would

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01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:14.800
<v Speaker 8>have full access to the account. But generally what they

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01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:17.720
<v Speaker 8>do is transfer that money into an account, or write

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01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:19.520
<v Speaker 8>her a check, or cash her out whatever.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean.

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<v Speaker 8>She wouldn't actually use that account, but she would have

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01:49:22.520 --> 01:49:24.560
<v Speaker 8>access to transfer everything.

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01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:27.920
<v Speaker 22>I just thought his dad would have told him, because

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01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:29.560
<v Speaker 22>he spent the last month of his life with him.

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01:49:29.680 --> 01:49:31.199
<v Speaker 9>How long ago did he pass away?

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01:49:31.319 --> 01:49:31.600
<v Speaker 5>Eva?

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01:49:33.039 --> 01:49:34.159
<v Speaker 22>Probably three months ago?

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<v Speaker 18>Well, then I am.

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01:49:35.359 --> 01:49:39.560
<v Speaker 9>Guessing that he was listed as the beneficiary and that's

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01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.840
<v Speaker 9>how they got his number. It's just a guess. But

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01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:45.439
<v Speaker 9>half the death certificate, his birth certificate showing that his

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01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:49.079
<v Speaker 9>dad was his dad, and his ID right mark.

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01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:51.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but didn't end the small You're going to have

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01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:54.439
<v Speaker 8>to do a small state affidavit no matter what. That's

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01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:57.840
<v Speaker 8>really easy though, Literally you download the form, fill it out.

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01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:00.439
<v Speaker 8>You might have to have it notarized, but because it's

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01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:03.720
<v Speaker 8>a bank, you can probably haven't notarize literally right there

2219
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:05.960
<v Speaker 8>while you're doing it. I do have a question though,

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01:50:06.000 --> 01:50:08.600
<v Speaker 8>when they called him, For the life of me, I

2221
01:50:08.680 --> 01:50:12.399
<v Speaker 8>don't understand why he didn't ask him what I mean,

2222
01:50:12.439 --> 01:50:14.760
<v Speaker 8>what did they say that when they called.

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01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:17.479
<v Speaker 12>Him, They said that he had to.

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01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:23.399
<v Speaker 22>Register for the gain planning property something like that.

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01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:29.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, okay, okay, but he only died three months ago. Yeah,

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01:50:29.680 --> 01:50:31.760
<v Speaker 8>so there's two things here. You just threw it off.

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01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:36.239
<v Speaker 8>Considering he just died three months ago, it's got to

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01:50:36.279 --> 01:50:39.560
<v Speaker 8>be just in the bank's custody right now. But if

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01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:42.960
<v Speaker 8>it was years and years after he died, the state

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01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:45.119
<v Speaker 8>of Colorado might have it and they call it. I

2231
01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:47.560
<v Speaker 8>think the Great Payback Colorado.

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01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:53.760
<v Speaker 7>And was it there? Yeah, okay, so it's the bank.

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01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:56.119
<v Speaker 8>He needs to go down to the bank, have the

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01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:59.479
<v Speaker 8>smallest state affidavit, have a copy of the death certificate

2235
01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:01.359
<v Speaker 8>and should be that easy, and a.

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01:51:01.399 --> 01:51:04.840
<v Speaker 9>Copy of his birth certificate if just in case he

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01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:05.920
<v Speaker 9>wasn't listening as.

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01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:10.880
<v Speaker 7>The driver's whatever. Yeah, okay, thank you, you're welcome.

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01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:13.279
<v Speaker 8>I mean that's hopefully it's a lot of money. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>like for real, and it's not a lot of work,

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01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:16.159
<v Speaker 8>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>Three zho three seven one three eight two five five Jr.

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01:51:21.319 --> 01:51:27.359
<v Speaker 8>Has a question for Matt in Paragon, right, Hey Jr.

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01:51:27.880 --> 01:51:30.760
<v Speaker 7>You think he's ordering fast food? Jr?

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01:51:31.399 --> 01:51:31.520
<v Speaker 17>Is it?

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01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:31.800
<v Speaker 22>Mike?

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01:51:33.640 --> 01:51:35.600
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna put him on hold. I have no idea.

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01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:38.119
<v Speaker 8>Kelly, You're gonna have to just keep checking. He's talking

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<v Speaker 8>to somebody in the background. You guys, it is amazing.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay. I want to ask you this, Matt, who's the

2252
01:51:47.039 --> 01:51:49.560
<v Speaker 7>easiest insurance company to deal with? We had a guy

2253
01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:53.199
<v Speaker 7>yesterday call in and actually had this question. No bs,

2254
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:54.119
<v Speaker 7>this was his question.

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<v Speaker 8>He didn't care how much the insurance was, but if

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01:51:57.319 --> 01:51:59.760
<v Speaker 8>he ever did have a claim, he wants to make

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01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:03.239
<v Speaker 8>sure there's no problem getting paid. So what what would

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01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:05.720
<v Speaker 8>you how would you have answered that? I had Brian

2259
01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:10.039
<v Speaker 8>burns on with Compass and we kind of answered it. Well,

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01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:13.520
<v Speaker 8>one of them was Acuity, exactly what you said. But

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01:52:13.960 --> 01:52:18.399
<v Speaker 8>I'll say Security or Chubb is even better. But Chub's

2262
01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:24.079
<v Speaker 8>gonna check your net worth and it's insurance for the wealthy. Yeah, yeah,

2263
01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:26.119
<v Speaker 8>you're not gonna get insured with Chubb, but if you

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01:52:26.239 --> 01:52:28.439
<v Speaker 8>have a three hundred thousand dollars high and they want

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01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:29.079
<v Speaker 8>you up.

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01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:33.199
<v Speaker 4>In the million plus range. But Acuity all day. Absolutely,

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01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:36.199
<v Speaker 4>But Chub's good too, right. Oh, they're both at the

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01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:38.159
<v Speaker 4>top of my list. Amika is really good.

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01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:41.840
<v Speaker 7>Too, Amika, Amka. Okay, let's go the other way. Who's

2270
01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:43.560
<v Speaker 7>the worst to deal with in your opinion?

2271
01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.399
<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you if you get me security, walk into

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01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:49.960
<v Speaker 4>my truck. Come on, who American family's the worst?

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01:52:50.079 --> 01:52:50.359
<v Speaker 7>Are they?

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01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Really?

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01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:50.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

2276
01:52:51.079 --> 01:52:52.079
<v Speaker 4>USAA is bad.

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01:52:52.399 --> 01:52:54.680
<v Speaker 7>USAA I heard used to be really good.

2278
01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:57.159
<v Speaker 8>They were good then all of a sudden, I don't know, man,

2279
01:52:57.279 --> 01:52:59.399
<v Speaker 8>maybe it's all the hell, but they went to hell?

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01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.960
<v Speaker 4>They did, you know, the ones kind of in the

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01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:04.399
<v Speaker 4>middle of the road, your state farm, nationwide, all state

2282
01:53:04.720 --> 01:53:07.319
<v Speaker 4>there it depends who you don't like a Safecoast, the

2283
01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:09.560
<v Speaker 4>one that gave me all the business the last time.

2284
01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Depends who you get as your adjuster on those. Now,

2285
01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:14.960
<v Speaker 4>some of the boutique ones you don't hear about a lot,

2286
01:53:15.079 --> 01:53:15.840
<v Speaker 4>like the Hartford.

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01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:19.079
<v Speaker 7>Hartford they've been around for one hundred years.

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01:53:19.239 --> 01:53:19.479
<v Speaker 10>Yep.

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01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:22.039
<v Speaker 4>Another bad one that just came to my mind is

2290
01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:23.279
<v Speaker 4>Colorado Farm Bureau.

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01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:25.840
<v Speaker 7>Never heard of them? Is that only for farmers?

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01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:26.000
<v Speaker 5>No?

2293
01:53:26.359 --> 01:53:28.840
<v Speaker 4>No, they'll ensure anything, but they're not great.

2294
01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:30.399
<v Speaker 7>Why is it called farm bureau?

2295
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Then?

2296
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:32.920
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think they used to ensure rural properties and

2297
01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:33.760
<v Speaker 4>then they saw Marcus.

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01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:33.920
<v Speaker 13>There.

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01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:37.920
<v Speaker 8>Deal, it's kind of crazy. Let's say, JR. Go ahead,

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01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:38.960
<v Speaker 8>what's your question for Matt?

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01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:41.279
<v Speaker 14>I had a couple of questions.

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01:53:41.479 --> 01:53:44.640
<v Speaker 16>So, Matt, what power do you have to get them

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01:53:44.680 --> 01:53:45.640
<v Speaker 16>to comp up more money?

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01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:45.920
<v Speaker 13>Okay?

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01:53:46.039 --> 01:53:49.079
<v Speaker 7>And if they don't comp with the money that you

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01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:52.640
<v Speaker 7>feel is reasonable, what's the next step.

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01:53:52.479 --> 01:53:53.399
<v Speaker 14>For the homeowner? Oh?

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01:53:53.479 --> 01:53:55.560
<v Speaker 7>This is great, So hold on, Jr. That is the

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01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:56.680
<v Speaker 7>best question ever.

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01:53:57.279 --> 01:54:00.159
<v Speaker 8>And Matt, I really want you to take that the

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01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:04.000
<v Speaker 8>three steps or four steps that you had to deal

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01:54:04.079 --> 01:54:08.000
<v Speaker 8>with with like my second claim, because you enacted something.

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01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:08.720
<v Speaker 7>But JR.

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<v Speaker 8>I do have to put you on hold because I

2315
01:54:11.159 --> 01:54:13.000
<v Speaker 8>got to take this break. But I'm gonna have them

2316
01:54:13.039 --> 01:54:15.479
<v Speaker 8>go over that and then you can ask any follow

2317
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:16.239
<v Speaker 8>up questions.

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01:54:16.479 --> 01:54:18.720
<v Speaker 7>But that is a great question.

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01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:26.520
<v Speaker 15>Hold on, Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer

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<v Speaker 18>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

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<v Speaker 15>Time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. In comparison,

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01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:40.479
<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out now three O three seven

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<v Speaker 15>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

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<v Speaker 15>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 15>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 15>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 18>All right during seven three eight.

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<v Speaker 8>If you don't listen on YouTube, it's a good time

2331
01:55:04.239 --> 01:55:07.640
<v Speaker 8>mark listen. I'll tell you you're missing a lot. We

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01:55:07.720 --> 01:55:11.079
<v Speaker 8>were talking about a Broncos game that I was at,

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01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:14.079
<v Speaker 8>and that's about all I can say. I suggest you

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01:55:14.199 --> 01:55:20.960
<v Speaker 8>go back and listen to the YouTube during the brand Yeah,

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01:55:22.399 --> 01:55:26.000
<v Speaker 8>not while you're reading. So I'm not gonna say much more.

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01:55:26.079 --> 01:55:30.159
<v Speaker 8>But in my entire life, I have never witnessed and

2337
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:34.920
<v Speaker 8>never felt what happened to me at a Broncos game.

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01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:40.720
<v Speaker 7>Question. This is making it sound like I was the

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01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:44.680
<v Speaker 7>not the do gooder. I did nothing wrong here.

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<v Speaker 10>The question are you gonna join us again this year?

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01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:50.159
<v Speaker 7>We had a great time, with the.

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01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:53.319
<v Speaker 8>Exception of that there was a young woman there that

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<v Speaker 8>I'll just say this. They literally, actually she wasn't young,

2344
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.399
<v Speaker 8>she was old. They literally had to shut down the

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01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:04.600
<v Speaker 8>entire restroom that was on that level. They literally shut

2346
01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:07.039
<v Speaker 8>it down and E. M. T had to come in

2347
01:56:07.520 --> 01:56:10.319
<v Speaker 8>because she actually exploded.

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<v Speaker 7>And I'll leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 8>If you want to hear the story, go to YouTube

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01:56:14.520 --> 01:56:18.279
<v Speaker 8>type in Troubleshooter Network. It's a very true story. And

2351
01:56:18.600 --> 01:56:21.920
<v Speaker 8>Mark the reason we were talking about it, Mark Schamansky,

2352
01:56:22.640 --> 01:56:26.960
<v Speaker 8>we were together that day, along with Suzanne and his wife, Matt.

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01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:31.199
<v Speaker 7>It was it was something that none of us have

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01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:35.119
<v Speaker 7>ever witnessed, and our entire section had the deal with Mark.

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01:56:35.159 --> 01:56:35.880
<v Speaker 9>It's a good story.

2356
01:56:36.359 --> 01:56:39.279
<v Speaker 7>Oh, it's a great story. Except for you guys. It

2357
01:56:39.399 --> 01:56:42.079
<v Speaker 7>was a lot better story than getting here. I got

2358
01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:43.239
<v Speaker 7>hit with the shrapnels.

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01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:46.319
<v Speaker 10>Well, Susan and I are in further so, well Madelon

2360
01:56:46.319 --> 01:56:48.479
<v Speaker 10>and I were, but Malon can't handle the smell.

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01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:55.840
<v Speaker 8>There it was, so I just can't talk about it

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01:56:56.039 --> 01:56:58.279
<v Speaker 8>like over the airwaves, and I won't. But now JR.

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01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:01.479
<v Speaker 8>Had a great question for Matt, so match with Paragon Services.

2364
01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:05.319
<v Speaker 8>He's a licensed public adjuster. So Matt Jr's question was great.

2365
01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:09.560
<v Speaker 8>So if you come out and you can't talk them

2366
01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:13.239
<v Speaker 8>in to the claim, or let's say they only want

2367
01:57:13.279 --> 01:57:16.279
<v Speaker 8>to give one hundred dollars instead of ten thousand, so

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01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:18.039
<v Speaker 8>let's go ahead and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, right, So the stepping stones here it goes,

2370
01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:26.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, homeowner, then contractor, then public adjuster. Then you

2371
01:57:26.920 --> 01:57:30.880
<v Speaker 4>get to a fork in the road appraisal or legal action.

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01:57:31.600 --> 01:57:34.199
<v Speaker 4>So if they refuse to negotiate with me, or they

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01:57:34.399 --> 01:57:37.000
<v Speaker 4>we don't get to a comfortable number, we can engage

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01:57:37.039 --> 01:57:40.359
<v Speaker 4>the appraisal process, which is what we did for your claim.

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01:57:40.640 --> 01:57:42.439
<v Speaker 7>That's what we did, JR. Do you know what the

2376
01:57:42.520 --> 01:57:43.760
<v Speaker 7>appraisal process is?

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01:57:44.880 --> 01:57:44.920
<v Speaker 13>No?

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01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.920
<v Speaker 17>I know, but I thought the contract was with the

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01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:52.960
<v Speaker 17>homeowner and insurance company would Why would the insurance company even.

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01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:53.359
<v Speaker 5>Talk to that?

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01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:56.600
<v Speaker 8>Because you make empower of attorney. He represents you, just

2382
01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:00.960
<v Speaker 8>like hiring a lawyer. If someone says I was DUI

2383
01:58:01.199 --> 01:58:04.039
<v Speaker 8>or said I murdered somebody I hire an attorney, and

2384
01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:06.199
<v Speaker 8>the police no longer talk to me. They talked to

2385
01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:06.920
<v Speaker 8>my attorney.

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01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:11.079
<v Speaker 13>Okay, so that's in the insurance contracts, right.

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01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:14.119
<v Speaker 4>Well, not necessarily. I hold a state license that allows

2388
01:58:14.199 --> 01:58:16.800
<v Speaker 4>me to negotiate with them. They can't ignore me, they

2389
01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:19.039
<v Speaker 4>can't hang up on me. They have to negotiate, and

2390
01:58:19.079 --> 01:58:21.239
<v Speaker 4>they don't have to do that with contractors.

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01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:23.920
<v Speaker 16>They can Is that correct?

2392
01:58:24.199 --> 01:58:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they can't, they can't.

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01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:28.439
<v Speaker 7>But listen, the appraisal process is really cool. And I

2394
01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:31.079
<v Speaker 7>just went through it. So they only wanted to pay

2395
01:58:31.600 --> 01:58:35.199
<v Speaker 7>so once. Once it was zero, MAC got involved and

2396
01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:38.680
<v Speaker 7>the initial amount they gave to Matt, that young lady

2397
01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:40.640
<v Speaker 7>that was out was like eight grand.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, it was pretty small. It's like eight thousand bucks.

2399
01:58:44.119 --> 01:58:46.840
<v Speaker 8>And I said, well, never eight grand. And Matt goes nothing.

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01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:49.000
<v Speaker 8>He goes no, no, no, that's just the starting point.

2401
01:58:49.359 --> 01:58:51.079
<v Speaker 8>So what did you do after the eight grand?

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01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:55.600
<v Speaker 4>So we invoked the appraisal clause, which the homeowner hires

2403
01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:58.560
<v Speaker 4>an appraiser yep, and the insurance company hires an appraiser.

2404
01:58:58.680 --> 01:59:00.079
<v Speaker 4>So now you've got too fresh.

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01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:01.079
<v Speaker 7>And they're independent.

2406
01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:02.039
<v Speaker 4>They're independent.

2407
01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:04.720
<v Speaker 8>They can't work for the insurance company jr. So they

2408
01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:07.760
<v Speaker 8>have to hire somebody, and I hire somebody. I use

2409
01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:10.159
<v Speaker 8>the guy that Matt uses all the time. It's kind

2410
01:59:10.199 --> 01:59:12.239
<v Speaker 8>of like a mediation. You have your side, they have

2411
01:59:12.359 --> 01:59:16.000
<v Speaker 8>their side. Most of the time it works out favorably

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01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:19.079
<v Speaker 8>for the homeowner. Yeah, so we were at eight thousand jar.

2413
01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:22.640
<v Speaker 8>We came out in my guy and their guy basically

2414
01:59:22.800 --> 01:59:26.079
<v Speaker 8>walked a house, talked to me, wanted to see the damage,

2415
01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:28.920
<v Speaker 8>and basically when it all got done, it was about

2416
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:31.159
<v Speaker 8>forty thousand dollars I got right.

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01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:35.279
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Now the final step in all of those there's

2418
01:59:35.359 --> 01:59:36.000
<v Speaker 5>another step.

2419
01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:39.880
<v Speaker 8>So let's say I'm still not happy and they didn't

2420
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:44.359
<v Speaker 8>budge even after the appraisal. Now there's something that you

2421
01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:47.279
<v Speaker 8>can actually get trebled damages.

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01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:47.279
<v Speaker 7>If you win.

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01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you go to an attorney, and I've got

2424
01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:53.680
<v Speaker 4>a few that I work with regularly. We basically sent

2425
01:59:53.760 --> 01:59:56.039
<v Speaker 4>a demand letter to the insurance company through the legal

2426
01:59:56.079 --> 01:59:59.399
<v Speaker 4>office and demand that they pay while we're asking, or

2427
01:59:59.479 --> 02:00:02.159
<v Speaker 4>we file suit. A lot of those attorneys take it

2428
02:00:02.199 --> 02:00:04.840
<v Speaker 4>on contingencies, so you're not paying a retainer, you're not

2429
02:00:04.920 --> 02:00:06.640
<v Speaker 4>paying an hourly fee for an attorney.

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02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:07.079
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

2431
02:00:07.239 --> 02:00:09.239
<v Speaker 4>They just go try to knock it out of the park,

2432
02:00:09.319 --> 02:00:12.159
<v Speaker 4>and I would say ninety nine percent of the time

2433
02:00:12.239 --> 02:00:15.560
<v Speaker 4>the attorneys get it. But that's the last line of defense.

2434
02:00:16.199 --> 02:00:16.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's it.

2435
02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:19.119
<v Speaker 7>And then if you lose that case, that's it. You

2436
02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:20.000
<v Speaker 7>had no case.

2437
02:00:20.439 --> 02:00:22.640
<v Speaker 8>Or if the attorney doesn't want to take it because

2438
02:00:22.680 --> 02:00:25.159
<v Speaker 8>they don't find it's a good case, well that's it.

2439
02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.680
<v Speaker 7>You're done and over. But those are all the different

2440
02:00:27.720 --> 02:00:28.680
<v Speaker 7>steps up to the end.

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02:00:28.760 --> 02:00:31.199
<v Speaker 8>The good part about if they fight you in court

2442
02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:34.279
<v Speaker 8>and you win, you can get trouble damages and attorney's fees.

2443
02:00:34.520 --> 02:00:37.760
<v Speaker 8>And I believe that's statutory, the attorney's fees if you win,

2444
02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:41.880
<v Speaker 8>it is, so, I mean that's a no brainer. If

2445
02:00:41.920 --> 02:00:44.039
<v Speaker 8>they don't want to give you thirty thousand, you end

2446
02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:47.039
<v Speaker 8>up getting ninety and the attorney ends up getting paid

2447
02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:49.840
<v Speaker 8>out of a different bucket. But that doesn't happen a lot.

2448
02:00:50.039 --> 02:00:53.279
<v Speaker 8>Usually what happens is if the attorney gets involved, you

2449
02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:55.920
<v Speaker 8>probably have a good case because it's their time and energy,

2450
02:00:56.279 --> 02:01:00.079
<v Speaker 8>and right before, right before the day before you you

2451
02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:03.359
<v Speaker 8>walk in and start picking a jury, they settle that way,

2452
02:01:03.439 --> 02:01:05.920
<v Speaker 8>they don't have to pay the treble damages because there's

2453
02:01:05.960 --> 02:01:07.000
<v Speaker 8>sleeves bags.

2454
02:01:06.680 --> 02:01:10.319
<v Speaker 3>A lot of them, so that you get then that's

2455
02:01:10.319 --> 02:01:12.279
<v Speaker 3>when you get your cut right at the end of

2456
02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:12.800
<v Speaker 3>the process.

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02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.560
<v Speaker 8>Correct, I don't collect until you're paid. Yeah, you don't

2458
02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:17.640
<v Speaker 8>collect until he's paid. And then once again the other

2459
02:01:17.760 --> 02:01:20.680
<v Speaker 8>thing Jr. Don't forget if you have more than one

2460
02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:23.159
<v Speaker 8>thing that was damaged on your property. So let's say

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02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:26.600
<v Speaker 8>you got the roof, you need a painter and landscaping

2462
02:01:26.880 --> 02:01:30.960
<v Speaker 8>or deck work or windows. Once you have three different

2463
02:01:31.039 --> 02:01:35.039
<v Speaker 8>things like that, and probably what ninety percent of the policies,

2464
02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:38.159
<v Speaker 8>maybe even more you can get overhead and profit they

2465
02:01:38.199 --> 02:01:40.840
<v Speaker 8>can be twenty percent, so you don't end up paying

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02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:45.840
<v Speaker 8>Matt anything, right, Okay, well.

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02:01:45.840 --> 02:01:47.680
<v Speaker 10>Too, I mean a lot of times when Matt and

2468
02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:49.880
<v Speaker 10>I are working together, and again, I mean we've done

2469
02:01:50.000 --> 02:01:52.359
<v Speaker 10>hundreds of claims together and we've probably had three go

2470
02:01:52.479 --> 02:01:53.000
<v Speaker 10>to lawyers.

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02:01:53.239 --> 02:01:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's very few and far between, and it's a

2472
02:01:55.479 --> 02:01:59.000
<v Speaker 4>waiting game. The lawyer thing takes a while. But those

2473
02:01:59.039 --> 02:02:00.560
<v Speaker 4>are nice mail box money.

2474
02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:01.279
<v Speaker 10>I mean, you know that.

2475
02:02:01.479 --> 02:02:04.760
<v Speaker 4>That's that's those guys going after every dime they can.

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02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:07.520
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, once the attorneys are in, oh my goodness,

2477
02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:11.159
<v Speaker 8>not only are they facing the treble damages, the attorney's fees,

2478
02:02:11.399 --> 02:02:13.439
<v Speaker 8>but the attorneys are going to find other things.

2479
02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:14.920
<v Speaker 10>To go after it right, and a lot of times

2480
02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:15.199
<v Speaker 10>you know.

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02:02:17.159 --> 02:02:19.920
<v Speaker 7>Faith loss, yes, exactly what it is a lot of.

2482
02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:21.520
<v Speaker 10>Times too, when Matt and I are working together on

2483
02:02:21.600 --> 02:02:23.560
<v Speaker 10>the claim, then we just take care of that too.

2484
02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:26.359
<v Speaker 10>So it's not even you don't even pay yourself, You

2485
02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:27.840
<v Speaker 10>just pay us for the work we're doing and we

2486
02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:28.760
<v Speaker 10>take care of Matt from there.

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02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:30.680
<v Speaker 4>A lot of times my fee is absorbed in the

2488
02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:34.359
<v Speaker 4>job cost. So every claim is different, every situation is different,

2489
02:02:34.399 --> 02:02:36.560
<v Speaker 4>but we just try to make sure that the customer

2490
02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:39.000
<v Speaker 4>comes out ahead and we all makes money and everybody's happy.

2491
02:02:39.119 --> 02:02:41.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's truly is a win win Jr. No matter what.

2492
02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:45.439
<v Speaker 8>Generally, what happens is you get a lot more brand

2493
02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:48.000
<v Speaker 8>new stuff on your house. I mean, really, that's the

2494
02:02:48.159 --> 02:02:50.520
<v Speaker 8>ultimate call. You got the new windows, you got the

2495
02:02:50.600 --> 02:02:53.439
<v Speaker 8>new siding, you got the new roof, You upgrade your house.

2496
02:02:53.479 --> 02:02:56.119
<v Speaker 8>Why just get the roof when there's damage and other

2497
02:02:56.199 --> 02:02:58.920
<v Speaker 8>people don't know how to look at the windows? And honestly,

2498
02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:02.039
<v Speaker 8>speaking of that peace because it's such a big insurance

2499
02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:05.079
<v Speaker 8>claim that comes with hail and people don't even realize

2500
02:03:05.119 --> 02:03:06.760
<v Speaker 8>it because the glass is intact.

2501
02:03:07.079 --> 02:03:09.279
<v Speaker 7>Once again, it's nothing to do with the glass. It's

2502
02:03:09.359 --> 02:03:12.079
<v Speaker 7>the seals. How do you actually look around and see

2503
02:03:12.159 --> 02:03:12.560
<v Speaker 7>that march?

2504
02:03:12.760 --> 02:03:15.359
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it doesn't happen overnight. You do need to

2505
02:03:15.399 --> 02:03:18.039
<v Speaker 10>get some condensation there to actually see that that seal

2506
02:03:18.159 --> 02:03:21.039
<v Speaker 10>is busted. And again, usually mornings is the best time

2507
02:03:21.079 --> 02:03:22.840
<v Speaker 10>to look at It's also it just looks a little

2508
02:03:22.920 --> 02:03:25.439
<v Speaker 10>foggy yep. And it's not that it's a dirty window.

2509
02:03:25.479 --> 02:03:27.600
<v Speaker 10>It's that there's some condensation there, and you don't see

2510
02:03:27.640 --> 02:03:30.600
<v Speaker 10>drops of water. It's just a very light bit of

2511
02:03:30.640 --> 02:03:32.119
<v Speaker 10>moisture that you can barely see.

2512
02:03:32.319 --> 02:03:35.359
<v Speaker 8>And when do you have the adjusters out in the afternoon?

2513
02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:38.239
<v Speaker 8>Generally right, the adjuster's not there at five am to

2514
02:03:38.279 --> 02:03:39.840
<v Speaker 8>see the condensation.

2515
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:43.079
<v Speaker 15>Correct Go with a sure thing Denver's Best roofer Excel

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<v Speaker 15>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 15>of insurance companies find out Now three o three, seven

2520
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<v Speaker 15>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only customer.

2521
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<v Speaker 15>When you choose Frank Durand the real estate Man dot

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<v Speaker 15>com to list your home with Remax Alliance three oh

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<v Speaker 15>three nine two zero, sixteen.

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<v Speaker 10>Twenty two.

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<v Speaker 7>Seven eighty two five five.

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02:04:16.600 --> 02:04:19.960
<v Speaker 8>Hey, guys, what other advice on insurance claims? In fact,

2527
02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:22.520
<v Speaker 8>let's let's move off insurance.

2528
02:04:22.000 --> 02:04:22.520
<v Speaker 7>A little bit.

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02:04:22.960 --> 02:04:26.840
<v Speaker 10>Well, I still had one question, so go ahead, Mark, Okay, So, Matt,

2530
02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:29.680
<v Speaker 10>if somebody doesn't know they have damage, and a year later,

2531
02:04:29.840 --> 02:04:32.800
<v Speaker 10>two years later, also and they do a roof inspection.

2532
02:04:34.439 --> 02:04:36.000
<v Speaker 7>And the guy comes to him and says, hey, you

2533
02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:36.840
<v Speaker 7>got hail damage.

2534
02:04:36.920 --> 02:04:39.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So what happens then, Well, the first thing I

2535
02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:42.159
<v Speaker 4>do is try to find a storm more recent than

2536
02:04:42.199 --> 02:04:45.640
<v Speaker 4>a year ago. And around here that's pretty easy to do.

2537
02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:46.479
<v Speaker 7>That is easy.

2538
02:04:47.560 --> 02:04:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Certain policies, you know, at certain insurance companies adhere to

2539
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:53.960
<v Speaker 4>the one year rule, which is basically, a storm hits,

2540
02:04:54.000 --> 02:04:56.840
<v Speaker 4>you gotta file acclaim within a year. That's most companies, right,

2541
02:04:56.960 --> 02:04:59.760
<v Speaker 4>So if I can't find a storm within that year,

2542
02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:02.279
<v Speaker 4>you're pretty much sitting tight waiting for another one.

2543
02:05:02.680 --> 02:05:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2544
02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:06.239
<v Speaker 8>We've had we've had ones marked in Matt's work done,

2545
02:05:06.920 --> 02:05:08.600
<v Speaker 8>and I'll give you an idea. One it was in

2546
02:05:09.319 --> 02:05:11.840
<v Speaker 8>I think it was Castle Rock, it might have been Monument,

2547
02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:16.600
<v Speaker 8>but here was the bottom line. They found out exactly

2548
02:05:16.760 --> 02:05:19.800
<v Speaker 8>like you said, that damage happened but they didn't know

2549
02:05:19.880 --> 02:05:20.520
<v Speaker 8>it at the time.

2550
02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:23.199
<v Speaker 7>I have no idea how they figured out it was there.

2551
02:05:23.279 --> 02:05:25.359
<v Speaker 7>They might have seen their neighbor getting a new roof

2552
02:05:25.479 --> 02:05:28.600
<v Speaker 7>or whatever. It happened to me. So Matt went out

2553
02:05:28.640 --> 02:05:33.000
<v Speaker 7>there and no, they called up the insurance company. I

2554
02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:33.720
<v Speaker 7>remember this now.

2555
02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:37.199
<v Speaker 8>They called up and the insurance company said, that's old damage.

2556
02:05:37.520 --> 02:05:41.239
<v Speaker 8>That wasn't from whatever storm. And then that's when they

2557
02:05:41.359 --> 02:05:44.279
<v Speaker 8>called the show, and I had them call Matt. Matt

2558
02:05:44.319 --> 02:05:48.680
<v Speaker 8>went into whatever program he has and found out exactly

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<v Speaker 8>when in that year's period of when there was a

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02:05:52.640 --> 02:05:56.119
<v Speaker 8>actual storm there, because the insurance company was trying to

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02:05:56.159 --> 02:05:58.520
<v Speaker 8>say it was, oh, that's from three years ago or whatever.

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02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:02.000
<v Speaker 8>Matt found a storm and prove to the insurance company

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02:06:02.079 --> 02:06:03.560
<v Speaker 8>it happened in that time, right.

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02:06:03.640 --> 02:06:06.800
<v Speaker 4>And then you reverse everything and they go oops, sorry.

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02:06:06.640 --> 02:06:08.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but that was what they tried to use for

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02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:10.079
<v Speaker 7>an out. It was all damage.

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02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:10.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>So I goes, you know, going out to listeners there.

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<v Speaker 10>If you think you had damage in the last three

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02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:17.079
<v Speaker 10>or four years, even nothing, should still call and have

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02:06:17.239 --> 02:06:18.039
<v Speaker 10>us take a look at it.

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02:06:18.119 --> 02:06:20.840
<v Speaker 8>Well, definitely within the last year. Oh, I see what

2573
02:06:20.920 --> 02:06:23.720
<v Speaker 8>you're saying now, Yeah, actually that is kind of a loophole.

2574
02:06:23.760 --> 02:06:26.079
<v Speaker 8>And you know what, I don't mind sharing that with listeners.

2575
02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:28.840
<v Speaker 8>Let's say you did have damage three years ago and

2576
02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:31.680
<v Speaker 8>didn't have damage this year, but there was a hailstorm.

2577
02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:34.119
<v Speaker 8>You could pin that hailstorm on the damage.

2578
02:06:34.159 --> 02:06:34.880
<v Speaker 4>I do it all the time.

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02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:37.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and see, I don't mind saying that. People are like, oh,

2580
02:06:37.399 --> 02:06:40.079
<v Speaker 7>you guys are ripping off the insurance company. No, we're not. Well,

2581
02:06:40.119 --> 02:06:42.000
<v Speaker 7>how do we're playing the game by their rules?

2582
02:06:42.039 --> 02:06:43.960
<v Speaker 4>How does anyone really how do you know how old

2583
02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:46.920
<v Speaker 4>a hit is? Well, on an asphalt roof, you never would, right,

2584
02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:49.720
<v Speaker 4>you can see stuff that's like five ten years old

2585
02:06:49.840 --> 02:06:51.119
<v Speaker 4>with the little fibers.

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02:06:50.720 --> 02:06:53.359
<v Speaker 8>Show mark that's a great that's a great way to

2587
02:06:53.439 --> 02:06:55.319
<v Speaker 8>look at it, because who were they to say that

2588
02:06:55.520 --> 02:06:58.119
<v Speaker 8>was three years ago when there was a damn storm

2589
02:06:58.239 --> 02:06:59.000
<v Speaker 8>six months ago?

2590
02:06:59.199 --> 02:06:59.800
<v Speaker 5>Were you there?

2591
02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:01.479
<v Speaker 4>Can you prove that? And I mean that's what I

2592
02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:03.600
<v Speaker 4>say to them. You know you weren't at the house.

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<v Speaker 10>I think you're going to one of my customers soon

2594
02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:07.279
<v Speaker 10>for that, Yeah, yeah, exactly kind.

2595
02:07:07.119 --> 02:07:09.479
<v Speaker 7>Of for what kind of stuff, Marker, you've been doing

2596
02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:12.359
<v Speaker 7>with Genesis lately this time of year. I know Deck's

2597
02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:13.000
<v Speaker 7>gotta be good.

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02:07:13.279 --> 02:07:15.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Decking's good. You know a lot of painting.

2599
02:07:15.439 --> 02:07:17.680
<v Speaker 7>And I don't mean insurance claims. I mean people don't.

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02:07:17.520 --> 02:07:20.560
<v Speaker 10>Understand just just in general things that people are looking for.

2601
02:07:20.640 --> 02:07:22.640
<v Speaker 10>You know, painting is bigger than normal for us.

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02:07:22.720 --> 02:07:24.600
<v Speaker 7>Right now, you're painton Kelly's house right now.

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02:07:24.680 --> 02:07:26.880
<v Speaker 10>Yep, we got people at Kelly's house who answers the

2604
02:07:26.880 --> 02:07:27.680
<v Speaker 10>phone here right now.

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02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:31.399
<v Speaker 7>I always brag on Omar. Omar is one of his painters.

2606
02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:33.600
<v Speaker 7>This crew has been with you twenty.

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02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:36.479
<v Speaker 10>Years, twenty four twenty four years.

2608
02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:39.159
<v Speaker 8>He did our exterior four or five years ago. He

2609
02:07:39.399 --> 02:07:44.319
<v Speaker 8>just finished our interior. He's remarkable, the attention, the detail,

2610
02:07:44.720 --> 02:07:47.560
<v Speaker 8>and then the cost comes in, you know, right around

2611
02:07:47.680 --> 02:07:50.439
<v Speaker 8>everybody else. But you have one of the best painters out.

2612
02:07:50.359 --> 02:07:52.319
<v Speaker 10>There, right and so I mean, you know, is well

2613
02:07:52.399 --> 02:07:53.640
<v Speaker 10>versed in doing it and everything like that.

2614
02:07:53.720 --> 02:07:56.960
<v Speaker 8>And so fixing drywall patches. You know, when you think

2615
02:07:57.000 --> 02:07:59.600
<v Speaker 8>of painting, it's not like just grabbing a roller and

2616
02:07:59.680 --> 02:08:02.680
<v Speaker 8>painting house. When I see these guys prep you had.

2617
02:08:03.039 --> 02:08:05.560
<v Speaker 8>Omar had probably five or ten people out there the

2618
02:08:05.640 --> 02:08:09.319
<v Speaker 8>first day. The whole thing's prep. Anybody can grab a roller.

2619
02:08:09.640 --> 02:08:12.319
<v Speaker 8>But if you want those lines perfect, if you want

2620
02:08:12.399 --> 02:08:14.319
<v Speaker 8>all those pinholes in the wall, done.

2621
02:08:14.640 --> 02:08:15.560
<v Speaker 7>If you need new.

2622
02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:18.760
<v Speaker 8>Texture because there was a big spot. All that stuff

2623
02:08:18.880 --> 02:08:21.520
<v Speaker 8>is where that attention, the detail comes from.

2624
02:08:21.520 --> 02:08:23.439
<v Speaker 10>Well, yeah, painting's easy. Prep is not.

2625
02:08:23.960 --> 02:08:24.920
<v Speaker 5>The prep is a prep.

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02:08:25.319 --> 02:08:28.199
<v Speaker 10>Prep is what makes a great prep paint job. Yeah

2627
02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:31.199
<v Speaker 10>for sure. So you got decks Yeah yeah, And you

2628
02:08:31.239 --> 02:08:33.640
<v Speaker 10>know we're not just in the metro area too. I

2629
02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:35.600
<v Speaker 10>mean we have crews right now working in winter Park.

2630
02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:37.680
<v Speaker 10>I mean winter Park is exploding.

2631
02:08:37.479 --> 02:08:37.880
<v Speaker 7>Is it really?

2632
02:08:37.960 --> 02:08:38.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

2633
02:08:38.279 --> 02:08:40.079
<v Speaker 7>And so oh you have a place up there too.

2634
02:08:40.199 --> 02:08:41.600
<v Speaker 10>I do have a place up there. But we're doing

2635
02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:42.760
<v Speaker 10>a lot of work in winter Park.

2636
02:08:43.119 --> 02:08:44.960
<v Speaker 7>How about like Colorado Springs busy?

2637
02:08:45.159 --> 02:08:47.520
<v Speaker 10>Collin Springs is right now is not as busy as

2638
02:08:47.600 --> 02:08:49.520
<v Speaker 10>normally as for us, you know, it's it's a little

2639
02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:50.520
<v Speaker 10>bit slower than normal.

2640
02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:52.239
<v Speaker 7>You go to Fort Collins, Yeah, we go.

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02:08:52.279 --> 02:08:54.439
<v Speaker 10>To Fort Collins, Yes we do. So we go you

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02:08:54.479 --> 02:08:55.800
<v Speaker 10>know through the whole front range.

2643
02:08:55.960 --> 02:08:58.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well including the front range itself.

2644
02:08:58.680 --> 02:08:59.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah for sure.

2645
02:08:59.479 --> 02:09:01.079
<v Speaker 7>And so Evergreen a big one.

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02:09:01.319 --> 02:09:04.399
<v Speaker 10>Evergreen's where I lives. So yeah, so that is a

2647
02:09:04.640 --> 02:09:05.880
<v Speaker 10>it's a great, great area.

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02:09:06.039 --> 02:09:08.800
<v Speaker 7>Something I didn't know you did. I've got a great

2649
02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:11.560
<v Speaker 7>company on our referral list, been there forever. Coming out.

2650
02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:13.600
<v Speaker 7>I would have got a bid from you on it

2651
02:09:13.680 --> 02:09:15.359
<v Speaker 7>as well, but I didn't even know you did it

2652
02:09:15.479 --> 02:09:19.119
<v Speaker 7>to Cement concrete pavers. I got pro form coming out

2653
02:09:20.239 --> 02:09:22.279
<v Speaker 7>next Monday season.

2654
02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:23.359
<v Speaker 9>They're starting Monday.

2655
02:09:23.560 --> 02:09:25.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they're coming out and doing half my driveway.

2656
02:09:25.880 --> 02:09:26.079
<v Speaker 10>Wow.

2657
02:09:26.159 --> 02:09:28.000
<v Speaker 8>I mean you've been to my house numerous times, so

2658
02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:31.000
<v Speaker 8>you know the size of the RV I got. It

2659
02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:32.920
<v Speaker 8>is such a pain in the ass to back it

2660
02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:35.720
<v Speaker 8>in that garage because the way the driveway. So they're

2661
02:09:35.760 --> 02:09:38.800
<v Speaker 8>going to extend my driveway in with and a little

2662
02:09:38.800 --> 02:09:41.079
<v Speaker 8>bit of length and basically I'm going to be able

2663
02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:42.319
<v Speaker 8>to pull almost straight down.

2664
02:09:42.359 --> 02:09:44.520
<v Speaker 7>So I'm looking forward to that. But going back to you,

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02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:46.119
<v Speaker 7>I had no idea we.

2666
02:09:46.199 --> 02:09:48.359
<v Speaker 10>Do concrete, yes, yeah, and you do a lot of it.

2667
02:09:48.600 --> 02:09:48.760
<v Speaker 14>We do.

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02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:52.039
<v Speaker 10>I mean, concrete is a great business beyond just patios,

2669
02:09:52.199 --> 02:09:54.439
<v Speaker 10>oh beyond pio. So we do a lot of driveways,

2670
02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:57.560
<v Speaker 10>you know, and again pavers pavers.

2671
02:09:57.159 --> 02:10:00.359
<v Speaker 8>Are streachiest part we get. So many complain it's over

2672
02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:03.239
<v Speaker 8>the years on concrete in general. In other words, people

2673
02:10:03.319 --> 02:10:05.880
<v Speaker 8>have got to understand it's concrete. It's never going to

2674
02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:08.319
<v Speaker 8>be perfect. You might have a hairline crack.

2675
02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:11.680
<v Speaker 7>In fact, a lot of people call what Spaulding I.

2676
02:10:11.720 --> 02:10:15.800
<v Speaker 10>Mean scraulding is when they overwork the concrete. They're sitting

2677
02:10:15.800 --> 02:10:17.359
<v Speaker 10>there and they keep working and working and trying to

2678
02:10:17.399 --> 02:10:19.680
<v Speaker 10>get it perfect, and sometimes I'd be better off. Okay,

2679
02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:21.399
<v Speaker 10>we're really close and we should just leave it alone.

2680
02:10:21.439 --> 02:10:23.439
<v Speaker 7>What does that mean though? When they I understand that

2681
02:10:23.479 --> 02:10:25.439
<v Speaker 7>they're trying to get it perfect, but why.

2682
02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:27.359
<v Speaker 10>Rocks are rising up to the top and so the

2683
02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:29.600
<v Speaker 10>concrete is not very thick in the very top player

2684
02:10:30.079 --> 02:10:32.239
<v Speaker 10>so it's popping off because you got rocks up there,

2685
02:10:32.399 --> 02:10:34.439
<v Speaker 10>or they just have too much rock in their mix.

2686
02:10:34.600 --> 02:10:36.399
<v Speaker 8>Or just and that's kind of a cheap way to

2687
02:10:36.479 --> 02:10:40.239
<v Speaker 8>do it right. So what I learned over the years

2688
02:10:40.640 --> 02:10:43.600
<v Speaker 8>is when the truck shows up, you can get a copy.

2689
02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:45.359
<v Speaker 10>What do they call you get a certificate? Yep, you

2690
02:10:45.399 --> 02:10:47.159
<v Speaker 10>get a certificate. What's inside that truck?

2691
02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:50.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, exactly what's in there? So if anybody ever, you know,

2692
02:10:50.720 --> 02:10:53.479
<v Speaker 8>if you look at your like when you give someone

2693
02:10:53.520 --> 02:10:56.199
<v Speaker 8>a bit on concrete, do you spell out like the mix?

2694
02:10:56.279 --> 02:10:58.920
<v Speaker 10>We we spell out and we said what your psis

2695
02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:00.680
<v Speaker 10>could be on the concretes.

2696
02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:02.960
<v Speaker 7>And then if they take the load sheet when it

2697
02:11:03.079 --> 02:11:04.239
<v Speaker 7>actually shows up.

2698
02:11:04.199 --> 02:11:06.399
<v Speaker 10>And they like, okay, I know this is what I'm

2699
02:11:06.439 --> 02:11:07.439
<v Speaker 10>getting and you know that.

2700
02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:11.199
<v Speaker 7>And how many people actually make concrete not not poor it.

2701
02:11:11.279 --> 02:11:11.760
<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of.

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02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:12.159
<v Speaker 5>People, you know.

2703
02:11:12.359 --> 02:11:14.079
<v Speaker 10>I mean we only use one one supplier.

2704
02:11:15.640 --> 02:11:18.319
<v Speaker 7>Oh okay, fine, but yeah, we use.

2705
02:11:18.239 --> 02:11:22.199
<v Speaker 10>One supplier because my guys we guaranteed. The concrete is

2706
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:25.680
<v Speaker 10>guaranteed too, Okay, So I don't just have a guarantee

2707
02:11:25.720 --> 02:11:28.399
<v Speaker 10>from my installer, but I also have a guarantee from

2708
02:11:28.439 --> 02:11:30.239
<v Speaker 10>my supplier of the concrete for the.

2709
02:11:30.319 --> 02:11:32.800
<v Speaker 7>Actual This guy, Mike's got a props to you. Hey, Mike,

2710
02:11:32.840 --> 02:11:37.680
<v Speaker 7>what's your props to either Matt or Mark?

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02:11:40.079 --> 02:11:41.279
<v Speaker 12>No, it's it's the Matt.

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02:11:41.319 --> 02:11:44.319
<v Speaker 23>He's working on insurance claim with me, and I wanted

2713
02:11:44.359 --> 02:11:46.880
<v Speaker 23>to give him a big auta boy.

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02:11:47.079 --> 02:11:49.039
<v Speaker 7>Hey Mike, what's your insurance company?

2715
02:11:51.079 --> 02:11:51.319
<v Speaker 10>Huh?

2716
02:11:51.600 --> 02:11:52.880
<v Speaker 7>What's your insurance company?

2717
02:11:54.199 --> 02:11:54.760
<v Speaker 13>Old State?

2718
02:11:55.520 --> 02:11:58.800
<v Speaker 7>And what happened? Did you call Matt from the beginning?

2719
02:11:58.920 --> 02:12:00.520
<v Speaker 7>Was it a hailstorm to tell us?

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02:12:01.279 --> 02:12:01.520
<v Speaker 13>Yeah?

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02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:04.399
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, I kind of from the beginning, I thought we

2722
02:12:04.640 --> 02:12:10.880
<v Speaker 23>had hail damage on the sightings and insurance company said no,

2723
02:12:11.239 --> 02:12:14.439
<v Speaker 23>and Matt, when looked at him, sent the pictures and stuff.

2724
02:12:15.439 --> 02:12:17.600
<v Speaker 23>And there's still stone.

2725
02:12:17.359 --> 02:12:17.840
<v Speaker 17>Ball on this.

2726
02:12:18.159 --> 02:12:20.119
<v Speaker 7>But where is your house at?

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02:12:21.640 --> 02:12:22.560
<v Speaker 13>Oh in Aurora?

2728
02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:25.159
<v Speaker 23>It's two houses to to my rental.

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02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:27.239
<v Speaker 7>House, Matt, do you know what we're talking about here?

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02:12:27.399 --> 02:12:29.560
<v Speaker 4>I do, And they were fighting me so bad. I'm

2731
02:12:29.600 --> 02:12:30.520
<v Speaker 4>giving it to my attorney.

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02:12:30.880 --> 02:12:31.760
<v Speaker 7>So this is one thing.

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02:12:31.840 --> 02:12:32.319
<v Speaker 10>This is one.

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02:12:32.760 --> 02:12:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is one that's going all the way.

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02:12:34.600 --> 02:12:36.760
<v Speaker 7>And then how is like when you go out what

2736
02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:37.680
<v Speaker 7>was it siding?

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02:12:38.119 --> 02:12:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

2738
02:12:38.319 --> 02:12:40.359
<v Speaker 4>It was three houses. I looked at his primary home

2739
02:12:40.399 --> 02:12:44.800
<v Speaker 4>and two rentals, and one of them I think one

2740
02:12:44.840 --> 02:12:47.399
<v Speaker 4>of them was definitely siding, and the other one I

2741
02:12:47.439 --> 02:12:49.159
<v Speaker 4>think was the roof. I'd have to look at her

2742
02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:51.640
<v Speaker 4>denying everything. Well, they're on the siding. They're saying it's

2743
02:12:51.640 --> 02:12:54.439
<v Speaker 4>wear and tear, it's old siding. But my argument is

2744
02:12:54.520 --> 02:12:57.239
<v Speaker 4>there's hail on it too, so that should trump everything. Yeah,

2745
02:12:57.239 --> 02:12:59.479
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just getting pushed back, you know, And I'm saying,

2746
02:12:59.479 --> 02:13:01.399
<v Speaker 4>all right, well, let's take it to the lawyers. They'll

2747
02:13:01.439 --> 02:13:02.880
<v Speaker 4>knock it out of the park and we get a

2748
02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:03.960
<v Speaker 4>bunch of extra stuff too.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

2750
02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:06.319
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's nice, Mike.

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02:13:06.199 --> 02:13:09.359
<v Speaker 13>Go ahead, Yeah, and that's great.

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02:13:09.520 --> 02:13:12.720
<v Speaker 23>I really really appreciate. I don't know what I've done when, Oh,

2753
02:13:12.840 --> 02:13:13.319
<v Speaker 23>thanks for Cary.

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<v Speaker 7>You probably would have just taken it by the shorts, man,

2755
02:13:16.439 --> 02:13:18.800
<v Speaker 7>I mean, like, for real, yeah.

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02:13:19.359 --> 02:13:21.199
<v Speaker 23>I wouldn't have known what to have done, what to do?

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02:13:21.359 --> 02:13:21.840
<v Speaker 21>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, all right, Hey, we appreciate that, Mike three o

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<v Speaker 8>three seven one three eight two five five. We've got

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<v Speaker 8>time for one more call three oh three Martino.

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<v Speaker 7>Two five five one Clear Choice Stores.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I love about one Clear Choice Stores.

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<v Speaker 8>They have got showrooms up and down the front range.

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<v Speaker 8>You need a new garage door opener or of course

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<v Speaker 8>a new garage. Maybe add hail damage on your garage

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<v Speaker 8>and it's time to go pick out a beautiful new

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<v Speaker 8>one one Clear Choice Stores dot com. Great company. Just

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<v Speaker 8>absolutely love them. And someone was asking me about my

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<v Speaker 8>weight loss. Uh yeah, check it out, guys. I'll tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 8>now you're ready for this. I'm at almost forty pounds okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I started a little over two thirty and I'm like

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<v Speaker 8>one ninety two the michelob Ultra I switch beers. No,

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<v Speaker 8>that would be easy. It's a Denver region. These guys

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<v Speaker 8>are great. I'm on what's called try zeppaitoid. I always

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<v Speaker 8>get a wrong try zeppatide whatever it is. But the

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<v Speaker 8>bottom line is I just don't crave food. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>that's that's the best way to say it. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>like a normal diet where all you're doing is not

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<v Speaker 8>eating and thinking about eating. You don't eat and you

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02:15:05.359 --> 02:15:06.279
<v Speaker 8>don't think about eating.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think there's anything to your stomach shrinking and

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02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:10.520
<v Speaker 4>it's smaller, so you're.

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<v Speaker 8>Slows down your intestines, it slows down your digestive system.

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<v Speaker 8>Here's what's cool about it, Matt. It's almost like testosterone therapy.

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<v Speaker 8>It's exactly what your body makes when you eat something.

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<v Speaker 8>Your body releases a chemical that goes to your brain

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<v Speaker 8>and says I'm full.

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<v Speaker 7>They use that.

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<v Speaker 8>It's the exact thing, or like ninety nine percent, and

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not a doctor. I'm going off a memory when

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<v Speaker 8>he's in. But it's like ninety five or ninety nine

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<v Speaker 8>percent the exact same thing your body produces when you eat.

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<v Speaker 8>You're just taking it and it slowly releases.

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<v Speaker 7>Into your system. You do a shot each week. Shot

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't hurt at all. It's like nothing.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's such a skinny needle you don't even feel it,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's not intervenous. You just put it in some

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<v Speaker 8>fat basically, so it lasts for a week and it

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<v Speaker 8>just tells your body you're full. And not only does

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<v Speaker 8>that make you feel full like your stomach, but it

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<v Speaker 8>also tells your brain literally you're full. And that's how

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<v Speaker 8>it works.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the energy levels.

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<v Speaker 7>Energy level, Yeah, you got to watch that.

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<v Speaker 8>I do a protein I don't even know what it's called,

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<v Speaker 8>like a protein shake, just to get some protein in there.

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<v Speaker 7>And you got to kind of make yourself eat. You

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<v Speaker 7>got to actually go.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, oh, I forgot to eat today. It's crazy as

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<v Speaker 8>that sounds, but it works. I mean less than six

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<v Speaker 8>months forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 10>So this is different than when you used to eat

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<v Speaker 10>once a day it well, which he still does, which

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<v Speaker 10>I still do.

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<v Speaker 7>But here's the funny part of mark. I would think

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<v Speaker 7>of food.

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<v Speaker 12>Though.

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<v Speaker 8>On a Friday, when we got pizza here and I

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<v Speaker 8>was only eating once a day, at four o'clock, it's

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<v Speaker 8>called intermittent fasting. I couldn't stop thinking about that damn

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<v Speaker 8>pizza in the other room, or the chips that would

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<v Speaker 8>be out in the newsroom, or the cake because it's

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<v Speaker 8>someone's birthday at work. I mean, in this building, you're

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<v Speaker 8>surrounded by food. Voodoo Donuts will send donuts here all

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<v Speaker 8>the time. There is always food for people that work

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<v Speaker 8>in this building. And even if I was eat eating

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<v Speaker 8>once a day, I'm just constantly you pass at Voodoo donut.

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<v Speaker 8>Is that a donut with bacon on it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>who doesn't want a donut with bacon on it? So

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<v Speaker 8>you're fighting with your brain with this. You don't even

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<v Speaker 8>it's not even a second thought. That's the difference. When

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<v Speaker 8>I used to do a very low carb diet, I'd

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<v Speaker 8>get to the point where I'd kill for a strawberry.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, any kind of sugar is what you crave

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<v Speaker 8>when you don't do carbs. So all I would think

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<v Speaker 8>about is that I could drop thirty pounds and I

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<v Speaker 8>could do it in two months. But man, all I

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<v Speaker 8>did was be miserable and think of food. That's really

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<v Speaker 8>the difference with these new class of drugs. But Denver Regen,

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<v Speaker 8>just I can't believe how cheap it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>they've got people less than three hundred bucks a month.

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<v Speaker 8>So I wanted to tell people about that. Less than

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<v Speaker 8>three hundred dollars a month on these weight loss drugs.

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<v Speaker 8>Check them out Denverregen dot com. Hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>real quick, Mark Schamansky Genesis three, three, six, seven nine

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<v Speaker 8>eighty five oh nine, and thanks for being here. And

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<v Speaker 8>then Matt Parragon Services seven one nine seven two six

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<v Speaker 8>zero zero twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll see you here tomorrow, HM,
