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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Seun Gomery with me as usual mister

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Morrison at it and this is episode four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty six of the show. And well, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a weird week in games. We had

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<v Speaker 1>the Nintendo Indie World. I will go through that. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to play the Men of the Hollower demo, so

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<v Speaker 1>I will discuss that as well. We got some fun

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<v Speaker 1>things with Embracer bringing back red octane. I mean, Guitar

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<v Speaker 1>Rhythm Games are making a comeback, sold those rumors about

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, activations and back Guitar Hero or not,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll see. And then you got a far Cry

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<v Speaker 1>TV show to go along with that Assassin's Creed TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess you yourself is ramping it up on

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<v Speaker 1>games and TV shows. Why not. Sony's PlayStation five keep

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<v Speaker 1>selling well. But you got some interesting comments from their

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<v Speaker 1>CFO this week about live service and one that made

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<v Speaker 1>everybody go nuts on the whole internet as far as

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, console warriors go. And there's a few

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<v Speaker 1>other things as well, so we'll get into all that

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<v Speaker 1>and more a right, so really quickly here, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the housekeeping. We do appreciate anybody that watches live,

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<v Speaker 1>late today technical issues and also work was in kind

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't get to start out at nine o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern normal time. Started a little bit later, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>here doing this thing. Also, just go out of the channel,

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<v Speaker 1>you get our other shows that are on the network

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Rales are broadcasting handle all the entertainment TV

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<v Speaker 1>show stuff and they are reviewing the not so great

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<v Speaker 1>ice Cube World of the World movie, so that's let's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't just go after the big ticket items.

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<v Speaker 1>They would definitely going to the even the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't expect to probably be reviewed or not. Although

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got the anime side of things, which

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<v Speaker 1>the Otago Cafe folks are doing a great job covering

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<v Speaker 1>the summer season, so if you like to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with that weekly or just you know, seasonal type of anime,

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<v Speaker 1>they do a great job of like reviewing kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what they think is the cream of the crop on

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<v Speaker 1>their end, and they have a different cast each week,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's interesting on that front too, And you of

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<v Speaker 1>course cannot listen to those shows on podcasts as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Prout to broadcast Single tal Cafe or just us video

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<v Speaker 1>games to the max. We want to stick with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's about it here for the housekeeping. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do something a little bit differently because Mean of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hollower has to do. I wouldn't be able to play

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<v Speaker 1>this demo if it wasn't for the Nintendo Indie World

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<v Speaker 1>Showcase that happened on Thursday. This was not anything, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big deal to ride home. Did you end up watching

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<v Speaker 1>this or no?

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<v Speaker 2>I wat took a part of it, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff seemed not great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say, yeah, it's fifteen minutes, not gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take a up a lot of your time. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also really don't need to go in and go nuts

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<v Speaker 1>from watch it. Honestly, we can give you the highlights

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Mean to the Hollower is the gem of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. I'll talk about the demo in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Never way has a twenty twenty sixth release date. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a I was shown at the Latin Game Showcase. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I talked about it during the Summer game Fest week.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a horror like farming sim kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of cool because you don't see that

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<v Speaker 1>genre mixed hardly.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like Craft made Stardi Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it looks cool, has that sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pixel arse and all that stuff. Is This seat

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<v Speaker 1>taken is an interesting take on the whole simulation thing,

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<v Speaker 1>except for now you're doing the seating arrangements instead of

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<v Speaker 1>the things you normally do in a restaurant or why not.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's an interesting take there too. Ball Pit, which

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<v Speaker 1>continues to be a surprising hit every time I see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and also exciting news that it's going to be day

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<v Speaker 1>one game Pass, so I was already excited to play

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<v Speaker 1>it without game Pass being there. Definitely going to be

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<v Speaker 1>checking that out now that it is on game Pass

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Hurdling also kind of neat, interesting look on

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of simulation type game is going to

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<v Speaker 1>probably be one of those like have those touching narratives

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, I'm sure. And UFO fifty is on

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<v Speaker 1>Switch now. That game was a hit last year on PC.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to see it on his Man. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>I should have been on Switch a while ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>glad to see it finally is going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>there and you can go, you know, play that now

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, which I definitely recommend. It's literally like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty different games that feel like they're in the nes

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<v Speaker 1>era and then they they get better as they go along.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like almost like a history thing as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which is neat. So yeah, I'm looking into whether I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get it or not, since I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I have anything until the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 1>and even then Lost Suicide. It's such like a every

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<v Speaker 1>time it feels like it's a mixed bag. Every time

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<v Speaker 1>somebody talks about it, it's like it just went gold,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know it is not going to get delayed again.

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<v Speaker 1>But then also people keep like saying, maybe you need

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for reviews. Don't go out and just buy

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately. I don't know. It doesn't give me good

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<v Speaker 1>good vibes. Usually you want people being like, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>go buy the same day one. Speaking of that, a

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<v Speaker 1>game you might want to go by day one when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out. Theist Ah I think from Yacht Club games,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does not involved shovel minas the Hollower, which

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<v Speaker 1>if you've probably seen this game in some form, it's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You play as a mouse named Mina. She is a

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<v Speaker 1>hollower and she literally you burrow underground with her, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can also have different weapons. I love Zelda,

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<v Speaker 1>and very much plays like a mixture between, like a

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<v Speaker 1>Zelda game with a bit more action to it obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it has some kind of solsy type elements

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<v Speaker 1>like when you die, you lose some gold or they

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<v Speaker 1>call it bones here the currency, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot that I don't know exactly how long

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<v Speaker 1>the demo is. I played quite a bit of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also died quite a few times too.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Thankfully, it's not like, oh, you have to repeat the

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<v Speaker 1>whole beginning of the level or whatever. At least maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the actual game is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more harsh as far as that goes, but

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<v Speaker 1>they do have like a easy mode for the people

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I just kind of want to play

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<v Speaker 1>through the game and not be bothered too much with

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<v Speaker 1>having to repeat sections because some of the enemies are

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<v Speaker 1>rather tough, you know, or at least they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>they definitely get in the way and make it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for you, So I would say that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you're just gonna walk in and cake walk

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. It's it's definitely one to make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>got the guard up and ready to take out. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the they way, the different d the the puzzles

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<v Speaker 1>and the different they have little secret areas things like

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<v Speaker 1>that too, So it is I think it's definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those indie darlings or whatnot when it

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<v Speaker 1>finally comes right. Hopefully it does not. Hopefully it hits

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<v Speaker 1>on time and everything that's what you want. Yaka Glames

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<v Speaker 1>has done such a great job with Double nine as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like it's probably one of the first like

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<v Speaker 1>indies that they kind of made it its own thing, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it's shovel Knight was in this, Shovel Knight was in.

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<v Speaker 2>That, and yeah, they hold the character at pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Mina has the potential to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>similarly do the same thing. Gonna be interesting that they

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<v Speaker 1>have other characters that maybe they can adapt into being

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<v Speaker 1>other characters play as if they add DLC or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, having the three different weapons and all

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<v Speaker 1>that does add like variety of the play style too,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's cool. And also love the music in this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's always been a positive with the Yacht Club

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So yeah, definitely go check out the demo.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's also like limited time as well, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to go download it even if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to play it immediately and then just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of give it a whirl whenever you feel like it.

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<v Speaker 2>But unless you know after a certain day, the demo

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<v Speaker 2>just won't work anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's I think it's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>limited like eventually it just won't be available unless it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be like a Steam next Best thing, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the indication that I kind of get from it.

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<v Speaker 1>But who knows. Yeah, I hope not hope it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the Ladder because you still got almost what three months

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<v Speaker 1>before that thing comes out. So yeah, that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>like the only game I've been playing this week? H

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<v Speaker 1>what uh have you been checking out here?

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<v Speaker 2>I finished Party and I went I mean finished, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean and got the Platinum trophy in nice. Yeah I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you, I did not whatever Xbox I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a lot of trophy. No, uh no, I got

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<v Speaker 1>it on PSI.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know. It ain't hard, you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them are kind of busy work, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was you know, I don't have to learn to

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<v Speaker 2>play Majong or whatever. The other one, uh the chess game,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Chess Japanese game, So that was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier. What else? So yeah, I went back to

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<v Speaker 2>dust rain in two. I did the hard There was

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<v Speaker 2>one very hard delivery, so I haven't managed to do

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<v Speaker 2>that finally, where it is a you have to visit

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<v Speaker 2>seven enemy bases and pick stuff up at them and

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<v Speaker 2>then deliver it to like this guy or these two guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a time limit of fifty minutes and

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<v Speaker 2>you can't save Uh that's annoying too. Yeah, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>do that, Like there's a kind of a way and

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of cheat it with like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the teleporting ship we have what else? Picked up a

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<v Speaker 2>cheap Captain Marvelars Capcom two for the Dreamcast. That's fun,

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<v Speaker 2>and I bought a I bought two uh old game

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<v Speaker 2>boys recently, well like I got one of them like

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<v Speaker 2>last week, I think Monday, And then I got another one,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Wednesday picked up a game Boy Micro Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a it's not great, like yeah, the screens,

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<v Speaker 2>like the size is kind of cool, but the screens

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<v Speaker 2>is too small.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mad is not great for you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you know battery works. I had to buy

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<v Speaker 2>a charger, but it you know, it actually seems to

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<v Speaker 2>work fine. And the know one I bought is a

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<v Speaker 2>game Boy Light. Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know what the game Boy light is.

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<v Speaker 2>So the game Boy Light was a Japanese only game

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<v Speaker 2>Boy Ah. It kind of looks like a game Boy

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<v Speaker 2>It's still a bad light, but you can technically use it.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you ever get the uh the analog thing?

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<v Speaker 2>just it's okay, but not really you know, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm looking at its basically like a light coming

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<v Speaker 1>through on a Yeah, looks like a game Boy color

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<v Speaker 1>but they made a light.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's kind of it almost is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the shape of a game Boy color like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yes, except this only takes two batteries, like

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's cool. Uh. I guess it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>It all right. Uh yeah, shorter section on the this here,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, at least we'll get into the news faster here.

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<v Speaker 1>Might as well start with Sony, and they had some

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<v Speaker 1>good financial results, including eighty million PS fives have been

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<v Speaker 1>shipped to sold in all this time, so they are

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<v Speaker 1>right there with the PS four, so that's that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>They're at least keeping up with the former and also

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<v Speaker 1>like a right around with the PS three as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So again that whole idea of you're still selling, you're

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<v Speaker 1>selling to the same people, but those same people are

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<v Speaker 1>still buying the consoles, so that's that's good. That's positive.

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<v Speaker 1>At least you're not seeing a drop, so right, it

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<v Speaker 1>helps a lot that you as far as the space

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<v Speaker 1>that the PS five occupies, you don't have competition really anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There's rumors going around that a combination of Xbox Series

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<v Speaker 1>X and S has only led to thirty million sales.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's not official Xbox number or Microsoft numbers, and

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<v Speaker 1>we probably won't ever get that until maybe the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the generation, perhaps when they don't care anymore what

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<v Speaker 1>the Series XS sales at all, not that they really

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<v Speaker 1>care that much now, but you know, comparatively, Sony is

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<v Speaker 1>doing wonderfully in that category. The PlayStation Nework currently has

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty three million active views which is

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<v Speaker 1>seven million more since the same time last year. Sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six million PS four and PS five games were sold

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<v Speaker 1>between April and June, which is up twelve million on

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<v Speaker 1>last year as well. Only six point nine million of

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<v Speaker 1>those were first party titles though, but I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>bealely didn't have any first party Yeah, titles will be

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of a week year for first party stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when you attach all your your eggs in one

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<v Speaker 1>basket essentially, and most of them don't hit.

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<v Speaker 2>You the day is gone, remastered it and blow the

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that that was the one everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on for sure. You know, of course they the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that that helps Sony obviously is that they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>just like Microsoft. They aren't all about PlayStation. But the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between Xbox and PlayStation is that PlayStation makes up

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<v Speaker 1>like sixty percent of Sony's revenue compared to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like twenty or like they're in the

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<v Speaker 1>same line as was it Office or something or not,

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<v Speaker 1>like a smaller much smaller portion of whatever Microsoft's. Right

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I don't want member offhand the chart that

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that was like they're in the same realm

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<v Speaker 1>with some other Microsoft software thing. But still the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you are the big leader when you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sony has their own movie studio, Sony has their own

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<v Speaker 1>music group, all of that stuff. Hey, it says a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about this company and what they've relied on all

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<v Speaker 1>these years. You know, being number one has definitely helped.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it also helps that, I mean Microsoft is

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<v Speaker 2>much bigger company still, but it helps that, like Sony

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<v Speaker 2>diversifies its holdings like you just said, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>focusing all on AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. So, and that being said, they Sony's CFO

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<v Speaker 1>had some interesting comments to make. We'll get into the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that got people in a tizzy and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit here. But Sony's CFO Lin Tao replied when asked

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<v Speaker 1>about you know why Sony's live service has been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>negative and what they're looking at when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>their live service plan going forward. Yeah, and he says

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<v Speaker 1>that despite that negativity, he still thinks that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to have another concord again. They have Marathon.

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<v Speaker 1>They have added a revenue stream that didn't exist for

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<v Speaker 1>the company five years ago. So you know, if we

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<v Speaker 1>look in the past five years. Five years ago, live

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<v Speaker 1>service games were almost on existible questions in studios. We

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<v Speaker 1>now have hell Divers too and will be at the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and grants as WIST seven and Budget's Destiny too, So

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<v Speaker 1>we have all these four live service contributing to sales

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<v Speaker 1>and profits in a stable manner. In fact, he noted

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<v Speaker 1>that Sony's the live service games are kind of for

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent of first party software revenue for the past quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, wait, he calls MLB the show a

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<v Speaker 2>life service game, So it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Games are live service games. We know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, then I can make new versions of it

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<v Speaker 2>then for next year.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean it is like lives those things continue

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<v Speaker 1>on people. You know, those servers are still up playing

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<v Speaker 1>those games that they just count them all as one.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. They they're kind of as different skews for

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, yearly sales data, but they counted all

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<v Speaker 1>as one.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I wouldn't. I wouldn't count Grand Troops for seven

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<v Speaker 2>of the Licerice game either.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they do because it's a continual thing and

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually been positive right for them, So of course, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>why not when you can interesting that two of those,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, are on Xbox or three of them are

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<v Speaker 1>on Xbox. Destiny to held ivers too as soon to

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<v Speaker 1>be and you got to be the show even though

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<v Speaker 1>I will be the show is not there doing that

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<v Speaker 1>was that will be that made that coright. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he is right in that that is a

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<v Speaker 1>revenue source that they didn't have, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like the problem is like the direction the

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<v Speaker 2>company went into. They went all in the life service games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know they had the twelve game. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you want twelve live service games. It's like, okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>now you don't have any money to really invest in

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<v Speaker 2>single player stuff, which I think people like more or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think some people like more or it's

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<v Speaker 2>not it's not a small factor. And that's that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like not doing great at the moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like Astrobot was good, don't get me wrong, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know that came out. They're not making a new after

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<v Speaker 2>about every year. They're not going to make you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a new got a War every year or you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, then I'm making a new Horizon every year.

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<v Speaker 1>And know that they have the multiplayer projects right right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know they're they're I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like opposed to a live service game necessarily, like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think the problem is just Sonny got a

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<v Speaker 2>little little too I wouldn't say ahead of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>but a little too. It's overly excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit too excited, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what led to Concord and you know Marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I think a lot of live service games,

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<v Speaker 2>like the traditional ones or like the ones that people

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<v Speaker 2>would consider like more life service games, that's more of

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<v Speaker 2>a natural process to get into or like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a natural ground swell of interest or support, like when

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<v Speaker 2>Fortnite came out initially, like it wasn't like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>thing ever or but it grew that audience and not

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<v Speaker 2>kind of is or even you know, I guess itex

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<v Speaker 2>did okay, but I mean it grew its audience. And

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<v Speaker 2>but I think like when they're when they try to

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<v Speaker 2>pump it up too fast or too much, then that's

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, players just get like this is a

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<v Speaker 2>fake thing, and then they stop playing it or they

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<v Speaker 2>like look at like confinnity Nikki.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you mess up your game, it doesn't at all. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it sucks. I mean that sucks that you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>really liked that game, and then they they found a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't actually boot it up a few days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, the patching for that game takes forever. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>it took me like a half hour, and I see,

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<v Speaker 2>this is only a twelve gigabyte pat and I got

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<v Speaker 2>good internet, like, so, what's the most problem here? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I just like loaded up like the quest screen

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<v Speaker 2>and just shut the game off because I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even understand this anymore, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what have they changed? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>They had like not they had like at least three

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<v Speaker 2>or four different time events going off at once, like

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<v Speaker 2>so there were like multiple quests, like multiple quests you

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<v Speaker 2>can do to like unlock other ship, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, there's this sunrise or like this like

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<v Speaker 2>weather quest, and you know, there was like this main

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<v Speaker 2>quest and I'm like I I didn't even know where

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<v Speaker 2>to what to do, Like, wow, yeah, I'll probably I'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably be deleting that at some point. Even though. What's

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<v Speaker 2>funny is like right before they ruined the game, you

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<v Speaker 2>put money into it, like twenty bucks, so I have

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<v Speaker 2>like paid currency in the game that all the never used.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that sucks. Yeah, it's like, man, right when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's good to invest and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it kind of was like I wasn't expecting. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I didn't really know the patch like it was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come out. I mean, well I knew the patch

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<v Speaker 2>was coming out, but like I didn't know like how

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<v Speaker 2>it would like affect the game like that. So like

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<v Speaker 2>a week before that the Ruinous patch came out, I

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<v Speaker 2>put like twenty bucks in and then that patch came

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<v Speaker 2>out and it destroyed, you know, all the good will

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<v Speaker 2>that the game had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well ce LEVI there. Yeah, I'll see how long

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<v Speaker 1>it is actually around. Must you know if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have some announcement that says, well, it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>has now been taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean it ever take I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>would take a while for it to be taken down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think what they'll do eventually do is do

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<v Speaker 2>like a return to basics or like return to form

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00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>patch where they roll back out of the craft that

422
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>people don't like.

423
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully at least so that you know, you can

424
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe get back into it at some point, right, But

425
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of shows the folly of that

426
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>sometimes of just you understand why you go after it, right,

427
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It's understandable why Sony wants to go after it, right,

428
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>they just did too much at once, and you know,

429
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are still out there outside of the

430
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>horizon don't look great. And I mean marathons still, we'll

431
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>see what happens with that when it finally comes.

432
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but.

433
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, for the most part, again, like that's that

434
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was the whole point of it is just at least

435
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Sony is making some kind of revenue, even though there's

436
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot more losses with the the bad stuff that

437
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>has hit them obviously, right. So, but like you said,

438
00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:18.200
<v Speaker 1>they do diversify their investments. And there was a quote

439
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of taken out of context by the

440
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Console Warrior crowd that took that was like greater part

441
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of a bigger statement on essentially they are Sony's continue

442
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>with that diversification and that extends into gaming as well.

443
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>The quote actually goes, so the investment in vanday and

444
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of course we have been shifting to creation. So for example,

445
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment three businesses basically account for sixty percent of

446
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>consolidate revenue. So basically our business portfolio is shifting more

447
00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>to creation. And then as for the eletrona's busines and

448
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>TV compared to output devices, we are now shifting to

449
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>creation devices that include digital camera to As a result,

450
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 1>we are seeing more stability and profitability and revenue and

451
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.519
<v Speaker 1>also the productivity of our performance is increasing. And also

452
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the music business music streaming and EMI music publishing has

453
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>been acquired, and then we increase the music catalog as

454
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned in the speech and gaming business and moving

455
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>away from a hardware centric business to more of the

456
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>community based engagement business, and then that has been increasing.

457
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So now as we make more transition to entertainment creation,

458
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 1>the stability of productivity, our performance is increasing. So this

459
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 1>upward division might not have been a direct result of

460
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 1>these however, the music publishing OUTSCOC, position of music catalog

461
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 1>outside positionive crunchy role, these are the areas where we

462
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>have seen growth and that's helped them improve profitability. So yeah,

463
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of course when you are the main anime streaming service,

464
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 1>that's going to help you. Of Course net Netflix is

465
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.119
<v Speaker 1>also you know, taking a chunk out of them as well,

466
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 1>because they're we've talked about I think that like last week,

467
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 1>or we can go you know two weeks ago that

468
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>more people are watching anime now because of Netflix having

469
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:18.319
<v Speaker 1>it on there. But you know, it doesn't mean that

470
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Sony is moving away from hardware at all. It just

471
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>means that Sony is understanding that you also need to

472
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>make sure you drive up content, drive up other things, right,

473
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 1>have those magical. That's why they went to the m

474
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 1>AU model now instead of talking about other things, because

475
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what people care about, right, They want to see

476
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 1>how how engaged are you in our ecosystem? How engaged

477
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>are you in the console or whatever thing you're using

478
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to play their games? All right, So, which is similar

479
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 1>to the Microsoft approach, just a different approach in general.

480
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Sonny very much still obviously, Look, you don't get eighty

481
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 1>million consoles out of nothing, right, it's because they value it.

482
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>So that's not going away anytime soon. In fact, according

483
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 1>to rumors from you know, the Moors, Law is dead guy,

484
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 1>he's already out there talking about different specs for the

485
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>PS six and the handheld PS six and even the

486
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Xbox whatever that's gonna be. So not talking about it

487
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 1>on here, just because like literally we're in the infancy

488
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of next gen whatever that's gonna be although like you

489
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 1>know him talking about, oh, the Xbox is really just

490
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 1>going to be a PC and they like it really

491
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be that. Okay, we already kind of

492
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 1>knew that that's needs to be where they're going, and

493
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 1>then PlayStation may have a lower spec console. Like, it's

494
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to be them trying to do the PS five,

495
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, PS six pro out of the bat, you know,

496
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 1>off the bat, because they're going to try to keep

497
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>the prices down. We'll see, we'll see. Look that it

498
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>may not come out till twenty twenty eight, so we

499
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:25.279
<v Speaker 1>have no idea what we're talking about two and a

500
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>half years from now. That's a long time when it

501
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 1>comes to a lot of things still got to happen, right,

502
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>We got to get to the end of this generation first.

503
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even you know, even when the PS six comes out,

504
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be like a hard cut or

505
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 2>a hard break from PS five.

506
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean like a no, definitely not. There's gonna be

507
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the He's right in that, there's gonna be back of

508
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>for fedibility for the handheld, even for PS five and

509
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>PS four. That was the whole reason why they went

510
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 1>with AMD was they wanted to make sure that that

511
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 1>was still there, right, They did not want to make

512
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the mistake of PS three again where it's like, oh,

513
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, and then PS four comes and

514
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>oh you can't play these games at all, you know,

515
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 1>natively to put them on the digital store. So you know,

516
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to deal with that again. It's just

517
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that's smart. Let's let's keep going having that go on

518
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>through the generations or whatever. Whether we're playing on you know,

519
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 1>in twenty years old, we're just exclusively playing that on

520
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the cloud or just on our TVs or whatever. However

521
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:37.799
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna work. But right, you know, for now, that's

522
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:45.599
<v Speaker 1>how this it is. Yeah, do you think it's I'm

523
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 1>just thinking at this point, they're just it's gonna be

524
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight, like midway through twenty twenty eight or something.

525
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I yeah, I heard some speculation of twenty twenty seven,

526
00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>but it is I think that's just still too early.

527
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I think the way making them in twenty twenty seven though,

528
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>or at least have oh yeah, we'll definitely have more

529
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>info the console, like lockdown or you know, maybe even

530
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>like what it looks like and stuff. But I mean, yeah,

531
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty eight.

532
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Can you please make it smaller? That's all I ask.

533
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't need this behemoth of console like where you

534
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 1>literally can't.

535
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, but making it smaller, like can't affect

536
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the power or it can affect you know they want

537
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>to put into it.

538
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not talking about making it tiny, even though

539
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 1>I have seen some people saying they might have a

540
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 1>PS five that's the size of a router or something,

541
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>which should that be crazy small? Yeah, but I mean

542
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 1>even the Series X is not that gigantic compared to

543
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that thing. It's like that that It's like I have

544
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>behind my TV and I can't I can't put in

545
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 1>thing near it.

546
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>Because length wise, maybe about like the Xbox Series X

547
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>is like this big monolith looking thing, like.

548
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's just a block. It's a big black block.

549
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It has no if you take the standoff of it,

550
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it just looks like a like old lot of nothing

551
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>with a little X button on that turns on me.

552
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, so it's just interesting and design choices

553
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>between two companies, right, they couldn't have made it more different,

554
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, look, uh, people are taking that

555
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 1>stuff out of context to mean that, oh, Sony's going

556
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.280
<v Speaker 1>towards software. They're doing the Microsoft thing, and it's like,

557
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about last week, it's like, maybe there

558
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:53.039
<v Speaker 1>are going to be more games, but it's not. It's

559
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>not the Microsoft strategy at all, because they want you

560
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to buy their PS fives and PS six and whatever

561
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 1>else after that.

562
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 2>This is as I get to that PlayStation nine commercial

563
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the aired a few years ago.

564
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, but we're going to leave Sony behind here

565
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 1>to go into Xbox for a little bit. Because once again,

566
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 1>even though this feels like they just kind of weren't

567
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sure and then kind of made the final decision afterwards,

568
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>so it looks like it's just like they might as

569
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>well just have announced this with the other ones. But

570
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Contraband is essentially been canceled. According to Avalanche and Steven Detillo,

571
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the game has ceased active development. Jason Schreier run out

572
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 1>and just flat out said it's canceled. We only saw

573
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>like a cinematic trailer, and it's not like we ever

574
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 1>really saw a lot of what the game is. To me,

575
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of like ever Wild, where it's like

576
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like there's a lot. The concept seemed cool,

577
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>but we never really got to see it flushed out right,

578
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not heartbroken by it at all. I hope

579
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 1>that it doesn't mean that this studio will now have

580
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:34.159
<v Speaker 1>layoffs at some point here. I definitely don't want people

581
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>losing their jobs at all. But you know, I don't

582
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>think this is like the huge thing that. No it's

583
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it sucks that people making the game, but

584
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 1>as far as like for the consumer, for you, the gamer,

585
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, I don't know if this is

586
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 1>a big loss.

587
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone forgot about it.

588
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, and it was just like one

589
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.079
<v Speaker 1>of those games would bring up and like, oh yeah,

590
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>there's contraband, Okay.

591
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 2>But like it's still like when they announced when they

592
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 2>announced just a few days ago that what's that? Like,

593
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know what it was. I'd like, look

594
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 2>at the trailer again, I'm like I kind of remember this,

595
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess. But that's a problem as a problem of

596
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like no gameplay trailers that I think Microsoft does more

597
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 2>than Tony or Nintendo. Like they show like a mood

598
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:30.119
<v Speaker 2>trailer and it's like that's okay, I guess, but you know,

599
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.559
<v Speaker 2>like it it's not like exciting about the game because

600
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 2>not showing the game ah, but you know, I like

601
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the Avalanche. I didn't like just Cause for it all,

602
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 2>but you know, just costs two and three were good.

603
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Get back to that.

604
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some of the just Cause stuff. Yeah, it's just uh,

605
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those where it's like, Okay, this was

606
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>a cool concept. There's kind of a lot of what

607
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>we Yeah.

608
00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>They didn't even know what it was because all they

609
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>said was a co op open world game and that

610
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>was it, and yeah, okay, that's just that's like just

611
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Cause too, you.

612
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Know, like kind of had a little bit of a

613
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe horrors.

614
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>It sound like a smuggling game or.

615
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>H exactly like a smug like a game game they

616
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to play with with other people like maybe.

617
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah setting off high or literally smuggling in goods like

618
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>another country or you know whatever.

619
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's like, oh, this is that game, okay,

620
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then that's it, and it's like okay, well,

621
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, I guess we'll see more of it later.

622
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>And then they didn't have it at the development direct thing.

623
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 1>They didn't show it at the showcase.

624
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.159
<v Speaker 2>So aside from the one trailer, it didn't show it

625
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 2>anything at all.

626
00:39:56.119 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's not the huge loss. It's just

627
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it is another game that has been canceled. Uh, you know,

628
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>they'd still have over forty development whatever that is, right,

629
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if hopefully most of those come out, but uh,

630
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they did fine. We did finally hear from the Fords,

631
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<v Speaker 1>the Motorsport team after they didn't say anything that they

632
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<v Speaker 1>are still working on for As the Motorsport that the

633
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>game is not like, you know, just not going anywhere

634
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatnot. So I guess for As the Motorsport fans

635
00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 1>can be okay for now that they are still that

636
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>both Playground and them are still working on Forza and

637
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the franchise will be okay, even though they lost a

638
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:46.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of the team, which sucks.

639
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that. I think it's gonna make Horizon

640
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>six and then I think Motorsport is done.

641
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, motors Flow will probably just be this kind of

642
00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 1>like Grand Seras most seven. You just kind of keep

643
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it going for the people that want it. Obviously not

644
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.039
<v Speaker 1>as big a scale as seven as growing Choose with seven,

645
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>which you know did really well PlayStation.

646
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.119
<v Speaker 2>So right, that game is like still expensive too. It's

647
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.800
<v Speaker 2>still at least like forty or fifty bucks.

648
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're not going to lower it while that game

649
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is doing well, right, it makes sense. But speaking of

650
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 1>people leaving studios, Rod ferguson this, I feel like this

651
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.639
<v Speaker 1>has been This was like rumored a while ago, and

652
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:41.079
<v Speaker 1>then now he's finally officially leaving after being with you know,

653
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 1>he's formally with Coalition, previously with Right with Gears of War,

654
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you know, he moved on to

655
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Rational Games, did stuff with Black Tuskin two K, and

656
00:41:54.840 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>then then he's also you know, he went back and

657
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 1>work with Bizard on Diablo and then full circle came

658
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.840
<v Speaker 1>back to Macrooft again and then now he's he's gone.

659
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, he feels like the game is in a

660
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>strong place, and he's he's leaving after his third tour

661
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 1>of duty with with Microsoft.

662
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 2>But he was like, yeah, partially right, He's right about

663
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>the second one. But I wouldn't. I don't think Diablo

664
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.599
<v Speaker 2>four is necessarily like a hugely strong position.

665
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I mean, did the like that that expansion brought

666
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:38.440
<v Speaker 1>people back?

667
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then you know they play through the content

668
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 2>once and then let's say all right, I'm I'm done,

669
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 2>or yeah, I don't want to create a seasonal character,

670
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>or you know, you create like most people create, like

671
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the new character class and that's that's it. But and

672
00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it's funny like they more monetized Diablo three, or they

673
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>try to with the whole auction house and that fell apart.

674
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>But you get the sense that they're trying to really

675
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>do that with Diablo four with this with the store.

676
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.159
<v Speaker 2>But all the star stuff is just garbage, or most

677
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 2>of it is.

678
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think they could ever take out that part of.

679
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 2>No, It's like I think people some people like it,

680
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 2>but I'm talking I guess just for myself, like a

681
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of it's just like ugly as hell? Are it

682
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>just like so like really generic and boring? Like I

683
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>want it to be like actually cool looking, and most

684
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 2>of it is just not. Yeah, I mean I guess

685
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that that might go further for me because I just

686
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>don't like the look of Diablo four that much.

687
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, yeah, I mean it's not like that

688
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 1>that game is gonna keep going, right, We'll see what

689
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>more updates they add to it and the few. Sure,

690
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 1>yeah there is things go on with it, but yeah,

691
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>the only other thing, I guess kind of adjacent because

692
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, EA has the Ya play with game pass.

693
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Also Mark Darra had a interview with mister Mighty Plays

694
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<v Speaker 1>on his YouTube channel. Of course, he is a former

695
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Bioer executive producer. He revealed during this interview that they

696
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>tried to pitch e A on doing a dragon Age

697
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>one to three we master similar to the mass Effect

698
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>one the three master, and they said no, yeah, obviously

699
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>dragon Age is much harder to do the mass effect

700
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot more unknowns, right because dragon Age

701
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Organs is not is essentially like isn't it like different.

702
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Than well dragon Age Georgians. Uh, dragon Age one and

703
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>two are on like their proprietary engine from back in

704
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the day what it's called. Uh, so that would be

705
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>like the real problem dragon Age the third one, I

706
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:23.199
<v Speaker 2>forget what it's called. Uh, that's not frostbite. So it'd

707
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.119
<v Speaker 2>probably be a lot easier to do, but they would

708
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 2>literally have to like remake dragon Age one and two

709
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's an undertaking. Yeah.

710
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, and they also he mentions that you have to

711
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:40.159
<v Speaker 1>like they have to get some kind of They almost

712
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>had an idea of getting a like a bunch of

713
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:47.400
<v Speaker 1>people that know how to do mods to remake dragon

714
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Age Origans because it was, like you said, it's been

715
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 1>a different.

716
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah engine, the Eclipse engine, and it looked it up. So

717
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I can see why, I mean, I think work, Yeah,

718
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 2>I can Like he said like Ohea doesn't like remasters. Uh,

719
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like just get like because they don't like free money.

720
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 2>It's like this isn't free money. Like this would be

721
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot lot of work for at least two of

722
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>those games. One of them isn't particularly well liked, and

723
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 2>considering like that Dragon Age is kind of tarnished as

724
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a franchise, Like could this make it up? Probably not,

725
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.079
<v Speaker 2>like would it make the money back? Even that's probably

726
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 2>pretty if he depending on how much makes you have

727
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:39.559
<v Speaker 2>to do with Dragon Age one and two. So I

728
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 2>can see this not doing it or you know, going

729
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>like no, we're good because lads with Masters Effect they're

730
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:48.599
<v Speaker 2>all like the Unreal Engine, so yeah, cares well.

731
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>And then they also like poureded it over to like

732
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 1>an external studio to do most of the work, whereas

733
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>right there was some people at Bow were actually having

734
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to work on this, and then it wasn't that many,

735
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>but it was some. And then it's like again the

736
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>whole essentially having to remake origins. Yeah, and then you're

737
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>putting it in with a remaster of one and two

738
00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>or even like essentially having any makes of those games.

739
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Origins there's one.

740
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah.

741
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>But but like even like dragon Age, like as a franchise,

742
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>dragon Age never particularly sold that well. Maybe Inquisition did,

743
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>but Origins itself only sold like four million copies.

744
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Inquisition sold really well, but that was also like

745
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 1>a really bad year in games.

746
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Uh so yeah, I can see them E eight

747
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>has gone now we're good. Yeah.

748
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I I do think it probably would have helped them

749
00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>with dragon Age Villguard, where you learn a lot more

750
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>about what makes dragon Age dragon Age, and but.

751
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's put in the card before the horse

752
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, yeah, I just had been made before

753
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>vail Guard came out, or you know, it would have

754
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 2>like between vail Guard and Inquisition, there's a ten year gap,

755
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 2>not ten years, sorry, there's like a what eight or

756
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>not like seven or eight year gap? A low people

757
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 2>don't forget about dragon Age.

758
00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean also I think it was more

759
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>about like most of the people that are at by

760
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>where at this point are not the folks that were

761
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>there making those oh yeah, early dragon Age games, so

762
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>they don't you know, the idea could be that, you know,

763
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 1>they don't really know what makes a dragon Age game,

764
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 1>so I kind of understand that.

765
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it was a tenure gap between Inquisition and

766
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Vail Guard. And yeah, judging, I don't think you played

767
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.599
<v Speaker 2>vail Guard much. But no, I did and YenS did,

768
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.559
<v Speaker 2>and we can both attest that it wasn't the same

769
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>people who made the earlier dragon Age games.

770
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, that doesn't sound great.

771
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I even even if e A somehow okayed this,

772
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.159
<v Speaker 2>I I don't think it would have panned out that

773
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 2>well because I just don't think that BioWare is capable

774
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 2>as a studio anymore, like do it correctly. They needed

775
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.119
<v Speaker 2>to form it out again, which would have cost them

776
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>even more money.

777
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 1>So I agree on that.

778
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>But I liked I liked Inquisition quite a bit. I

779
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 2>can don't like Dragon Age one or two that much,

780
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:35.079
<v Speaker 2>but the third one I like.

781
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of people like thing Position after that.

782
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually, most people like the first one, you know, that's

783
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 2>what YenS is all like, Oh, the Heirs one's only

784
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>the only true true game in the series.

785
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Gotta love that all right then, But hey, Embracer did

786
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>a night a cool thing once. Actually, feels like they

787
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>invested in something after they've had all these this tumultuous

788
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:16.559
<v Speaker 1>time of like layoffs and closing studios and spinning off

789
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>studios and all this stuff. They brought back Red Octane

790
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>even though now it's called Red Octane Games and part

791
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.639
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Embracer. I don't know which group it

792
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 1>is that they're with, but they're a small studio that's

793
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at making a rhythm game, a new one at that.

794
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Of course, they were the ones that were instrumental in

795
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 1>making Guitar Hero and DJ Hero. Obviously Harmonics also had

796
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with that as well, and they're

797
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 1>part of the Free Mode group. I'm sorry if people

798
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 1>even know what any of these groups actually. Yeah, it's

799
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 1>like whatever, But they're not trying to make Guitar Hero,

800
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's the whole point. They're just trying to make their

801
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>own like rhythm game. But it is going to have uh,

802
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>they are going to try to go and get license music, supposedly,

803
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and they said that they still have contacts there. Obviously

804
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>they don't have the.

805
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:26.400
<v Speaker 2>That would help, and they.

806
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 1>Said they're still going to approach the music the same

807
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 1>way like go and try to get you know, the

808
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 1>parts and all that stuff that they normally do and

809
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the split parts and try to get that all of work.

810
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 1>So now that you have those, you know guitar, the

811
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 1>guitars that have come back right between.

812
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>The I'm not sure if like those new guitars actually

813
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 2>have shipped yet or not. I know YenS is waiting

814
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:53.719
<v Speaker 2>for his, but I'm not sure.

815
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, the one that works at the fortnite festival, those work.

816
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Those are out there. I don't know about the the

817
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 1>like Remade Less Falls or whatever that hero if those

818
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>are out or not.

819
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>But what doesn't one for rock band? Yeah?

820
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Yes, those are for a fortnight festival and it does

821
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 1>work a rock band for yeah, So we'll see. You know,

822
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 1>now that those are available to people, it would be

823
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see if Red Octane can go out and

824
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.239
<v Speaker 1>make this. I think it'd be cool. The problem is

825
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that they're an audience for it outside of people like

826
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 1>me that live in that nostalgia that as you can

827
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 1>see if you watch the video version. In the background,

828
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I have my rock band guitars sitting there around my shelf,

829
00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:01.400
<v Speaker 1>even though I can't use them because my converter bro right,

830
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 1>but still they're there, right, you know. That's The thing

831
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is like generation the generations behind us have become even

832
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 1>more anti social. So this is a very social game.

833
00:53:19.559 --> 00:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that it's gonna do the It's

834
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely not gonna do the bonkers numbers that you know

835
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 1>it did back in the day. But can you sustain

836
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 1>a niche audience like that? And how much is embracer?

837
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Were they gonna invest in all that because you know

838
00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.280
<v Speaker 1>they're not epic.

839
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, they answered to your first question is no, right,

840
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 2>because they tried already bring back Guitar Hero and rock

841
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Band and it didn't do go well.

842
00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So to be fair, the Guitar Hero once sucked because

843
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 1>like nobody wanted to have the songs tied to that

844
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 1>streaming service. And then they made a big deal about that.

845
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean that you say it wasn't great.

846
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 2>You say that, but you also have like eight hundred

847
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Rock Band songs, right, but I have. It's literally like

848
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>think of it like as game pass for a Guitar Hero.

849
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I know, but that was one of the things against it.

850
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Side fi. I think also like you wouldn't like the

851
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>controller and the guitar thing, and the story mode was

852
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 1>like overblown. They tried to make a big deal about it,

853
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't this the thing that they made it

854
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 1>out to be as well, So there's a lot of

855
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 1>things that weren't. And then also again, like you said,

856
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 1>it just didn't catch on, right, They thought that it

857
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was gonna bring a comeback, and it didn't catch on.

858
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I think rock Band four just had rock Band four

859
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:48.840
<v Speaker 1>was a classic you you put it out missing stuff,

860
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't have a way for people to uh

861
00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it was it. They didn't make the converter available enough

862
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>for so then a lot of the people that might

863
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:08.639
<v Speaker 1>have brought came into it later that thought, oh, man,

864
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.719
<v Speaker 1>I still have these guitars laying around or whatever, and

865
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:14.719
<v Speaker 1>then oh I can't use them because you literally cannot

866
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 1>buy the converter, right And it's like nice way to

867
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:21.880
<v Speaker 1>shoot yourself on the foot to have this have any

868
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:25.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of length outside of you having you know, DLC

869
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>for which, to be fair to them, they did all

870
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the work to make the old DLC come in and

871
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.599
<v Speaker 1>work with the Series X and all that stuff like

872
00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and and the PlayStation five and like a lot of

873
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>credit to them to get all that stuff going when

874
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.679
<v Speaker 1>by a large part of that they were independent, you know,

875
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.000
<v Speaker 1>epic didn't own them until basically at the end, and

876
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that's when they ended DLC because at that point Carmonyx

877
00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 1>was just doing stuff for Fortnite and then they made

878
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the Fortnite Festival thing or whatever. But we'll see what

879
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 1>comes out of this. I just think it's cool that

880
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.199
<v Speaker 1>they exist and they're doing something, and that's awesome that,

881
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, Embracer brought him in.

882
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:07.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of surprised you have the right acting name

883
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.719
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't know that. Yeah.

884
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I think they it was some kind of they did

885
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit with didn't they do a lawsuit with ACT

886
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Division or whatever to get the name back?

887
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I got at one point.

888
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but hey, we talked about Ubisoft in their Assassa's

889
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>screen show. They are now also doing a far Cry

890
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>show and it's in the works. Uh, Rob Mack is

891
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna star. He officially changed his name to Rob Mac.

892
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:48.159
<v Speaker 1>It's no longer Rob McElhenny because apparently everybody everybody says

893
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:53.079
<v Speaker 1>his name wrong, right, so he just changed. I also

894
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 1>thought it was weird. I was like, oh, that was real.

895
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a joke when I.

896
00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Saw it named like Rob Big Mac.

897
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 1>That would have been hilarious. Actually that would have that

898
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 1>would have worked with the you know, the always sunny thing.

899
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 1>But hey, what do you think the show?

900
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the show is like gonna be run by Noah Hawley.

901
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

902
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.280
<v Speaker 2>He did that Fargo show and he's doing an Alien

903
00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Earth show that's premier in this week. I think is

904
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:31.000
<v Speaker 2>really good. Yeah, I've heard different season the Fargo has

905
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 2>varying levels of quality.

906
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Black season one is great and then it kind of

907
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:36.559
<v Speaker 1>tails off.

908
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:37.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

909
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

910
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.119
<v Speaker 2>He also did the Legion show, which I really like

911
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 2>back in the day. Yeah, I don't know. I I

912
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:52.079
<v Speaker 2>don't think it will happened. I mean no, I believe

913
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it's true, like once actually film or you know, footage

914
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:58.440
<v Speaker 2>of Goose or a trailer, you know, just you have

915
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 2>to be so skeptical nowadays at this crap. It could

916
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.639
<v Speaker 2>be interesting and like them going into an anthology show

917
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>might be fun, especially if they finally hit season three

918
00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and to get h you know, Michael Manda Mando back

919
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.639
<v Speaker 2>is us from Parker I three.

920
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh you think trying to make it after the games?

921
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Well one and two doesn't matter because one and two

922
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 2>basically have no plot, you know, basically, like, hey, I

923
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.239
<v Speaker 2>think I don't even know that the plot in one

924
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 2>personally because like back then, they didn't they didn't really

925
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 2>care about story. All I remember about two's plot is

926
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you have ah not anthrax, but you have like some

927
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's malaria to keep taking medication for it.

928
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 2>That's all I remember about two. But at least like

929
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 2>once you get to three, that actually had like a story.

930
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>So sure just have you know, yeah, I have Rob

931
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 2>MacB like the white guy in the jungle hunting, hunting

932
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 2>animals and making wallets out of their corpses and then

933
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 2>taking down whatever evil government or you know, evil government.

934
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:14.800
<v Speaker 2>There isn't the in the country, right, and the second

935
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>season can start any Divito.

936
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like everybody's always trying to get Danny DeVito for something.

937
00:59:21.679 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 2>And everyone loves them. May it.

938
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:26.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

939
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I think like far Cray could work. It can work

940
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 2>because they're just so little there, you know right that

941
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:40.760
<v Speaker 2>like you it's it's basically a name and like having

942
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 2>good like fire tech or fire shit going on, like

943
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I like I said, I think until you hit like

944
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.320
<v Speaker 2>season like if they do, if they made it to

945
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a season three, like I would want season three to

946
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 2>be a patterned after that game specifically, right, But then

947
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.039
<v Speaker 2>you can stop there because far Cry for the rest

948
00:59:57.079 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>of them are not good.

949
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, some people like Farkraft four. I think five kind.

950
01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Of four is fine. Yeah, I guess Farcraft five were

951
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of really nose dive and then Farrit six. No

952
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 2>one cared.

953
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 1>About Farcraft six. Is interesting because like, man, I was

954
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 1>really down with that story and then it's like nope.

955
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 2>And then you realized that he's on Carl is only

956
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:24.760
<v Speaker 2>in it for like six minutes.

957
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, That's why I was kind of like, oh, this

958
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 1>is a vait and switch. Man, He's hardly in this thing.

959
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, damn like to start and then like at the

960
01:00:36.039 --> 01:00:36.639
<v Speaker 2>end and that's it.

961
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but some sad duws. I guess here to end this.

962
01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:49.559
<v Speaker 1>Uh Bithel Games which has made some games that Mark likes.

963
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>They make the solitaire games you like.

964
01:00:55.039 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Right, they made one the Solitary Conspiracy, all right.

965
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And of course uh Bithel game is also known for

966
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Thomas was Alone. I was kind of an indie Darling

967
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Tron Catalyst and john wick X which john wick hecks

968
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>like recently went offline.

969
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 2>There the lost lost the rights to the name or whatever.

970
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:22.519
<v Speaker 1>So and unfortunately, because they couldn't get a big project

971
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:30.239
<v Speaker 1>his eleven employees were made a redundant yeah, which is

972
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the majority of the full time staff and studio. It sucks,

973
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, he he said that he had

974
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>an incredible team and that you know, he's hoping anybody

975
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that work there can find work soon. That sucks to see,

976
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:50.079
<v Speaker 1>even the really really small ones. That's a good effect

977
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:50.519
<v Speaker 1>like that.

978
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the problem with that company or

979
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, what they started to do is it's almost

980
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.719
<v Speaker 2>like what they do with a telltale, like if you

981
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:04.519
<v Speaker 2>only go after licensed stuff, yeah, and then licenses dry

982
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 2>up or you know, there's not a huge demand for

983
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, Like what are you gonna do.

984
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Right exactly? Making your own like individual thing without the

985
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:18.679
<v Speaker 1>license is gonna be difficult people to care about it.

986
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's not to say that that can't work,

987
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>like but I would say, I mean, they're known for

988
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Thomas was alone, more than tron Catalyst, which you just

989
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 2>came out a few months ago. So i'd say, go

990
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:36.079
<v Speaker 2>for you know, making your own stuff, and you have

991
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:39.000
<v Speaker 2>to self fund it, go that route or get you know,

992
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 2>get some investors whatever. But right stuff out there.

993
01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 1>It is it's definitely too But all right, I guess

994
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we will end the show as we always do here

995
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about the games they're gonna come out, and this

996
01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>week ahead it's already been out for the people that

997
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, buy the extra special edition or whatever. But

998
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Madden NFL twenty six right out right now you can

999
01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 1>go play that finally for the people that are waiting

1000
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:16.360
<v Speaker 1>on that as we head towards the NFL season beginning

1001
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 1>with preseason had their first week a couple of days ago.

1002
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Send you a Saga help a two enhanced edition coming

1003
01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to PS five. Yeah, so we'll see if that has

1004
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.280
<v Speaker 1>any kind of legs on PS five themselves, decently or not,

1005
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, after all the not but okay, probably not.

1006
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll sell decently.

1007
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 2>But I think cannot like, let's put it that way.

1008
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not going to do that, definitely not. I mean,

1009
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>let's see, is it even gonna touch like it not?

1010
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Probably not even gonna touch what Clayers. But either if

1011
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 1>it sells a million, I think they should be kind

1012
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 1>of happy.

1013
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank God for that, I really.

1014
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Because I imagine that there's a lot less to bought it

1015
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on Xbox and see, especially after no One. But in

1016
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Xbox it also has really bad word of mouth, which

1017
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 1>didn't help. The game was really was short and it

1018
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 1>made much more even more cinematic than the first game,

1019
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know they changed the combat a bit, so, right,

1020
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:46.679
<v Speaker 1>not that enthused about it. Dragon Dragon Drive coming out

1021
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:49.960
<v Speaker 1>for the Switch. That's the big switch for Switch to

1022
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.559
<v Speaker 1>release after this month.

1023
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I act earlier today and they actually had Twitched shoes

1024
01:04:56.280 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 2>for sale and I was like, shot, Like they had

1025
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 2>like I think they had at least four of each,

1026
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:10.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe five. I was like, wow, you actually have them.

1027
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's good. The first time you've seen him out

1028
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Right, Yeah, that's cool. That's good that

1029
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you finally saw them. You know that they exist outside of.

1030
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:27.760
<v Speaker 3>The Amazon Yeah, uh, there's no Football Manager of twenty

1031
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:31.599
<v Speaker 3>twenty five, but you can't get the original version of Football.

1032
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Star Manager on PC on the fourteenth, and also you

1033
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 1>get Teenage Music and Ninja Turtles Tactical Takedown, which strangeley

1034
01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 1>is not coming to PlayStation five only switching Xbox. Yeah,

1035
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.360
<v Speaker 1>that's like a first, we haven't we've seen it in

1036
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 1>a while. And then Off, which is like a remaster

1037
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:58.719
<v Speaker 1>of the an old NESRPG that was sort of like

1038
01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the inspired Undertail. That's gonna be on switching PC, so

1039
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I might check it out if it uh, if there's

1040
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 1>some some good reviews. Yeah, so that's that's kind of

1041
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the majority of this week. Next week we start getting

1042
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:21.960
<v Speaker 1>some some cool stuff and then obviously the end of

1043
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the month is when we get some of the games

1044
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>he will been waiting on. Right, So, but all right,

1045
01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:33.199
<v Speaker 1>there's not anything else you want to talk about here.

1046
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess that we'll wrap it up.

1047
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, you didn't about last week because we were

1048
01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I kind of pressed for time, but we both saw it.

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01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, Yeah, go ahead, I guess we can.

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01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:45.400
<v Speaker 1>We can talk about it here.

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01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I was sign yeah, did you see Superman?

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01:06:49.719 --> 01:06:52.119
<v Speaker 1>Also, I have not seen it yet.

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01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think Fantastic four is like eight. I don't

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01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:59.880
<v Speaker 2>want to say it's a better movie. It's a slightly

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01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.760
<v Speaker 2>more cohesive movie. That's because it's like a lot simpler.

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01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of moving parts in Superman and

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01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 2>it gets overburdened by that. But it's like a more

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01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 2>ambitious movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'll take away. Yeah, I've heard a lot of

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01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:19.800
<v Speaker 1>people say that it's like a lot of stuff going

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<v Speaker 1>on right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just track like they have so many characters.

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01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean so many characters that like, you know, some

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01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.119
<v Speaker 2>people better to get like like a line in basically,

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01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.039
<v Speaker 2>and then they're like kind of like castaway or you know,

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01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just like a background character like Perry White. It's like, hey,

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01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:41.159
<v Speaker 2>I like, uh, I like this actor quite a bit.

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01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Why isn't he in here? Why is he saying shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had that fantastic for a fine Uh yeah,

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01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 2>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it a lot. I wouldly not a very

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01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 1>high bar to clear to be the best fantastic for movie.

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01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.079
<v Speaker 2>And man that nineteen ninety one It's pretty all right.

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01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Didn't come out. Yeah, No, I thought it was good.

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01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 1>It was I like the cast. Vanessa Curvey is probably

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01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 1>the best.

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01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was a entire movie, right.

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01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I really liked her in it. I thought everybody else

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01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:26.920
<v Speaker 1>was was good.

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01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Uh it's it's it's a fine Like it felt like

1083
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:37.199
<v Speaker 4>we went back to uh like first phase Marble Like

1084
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:38.880
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of something fine.

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01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 2>It was a kind of perfunctory, but also like considering

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01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Marbles track record of the past few years, it's not

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01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:44.920
<v Speaker 2>a bad thing.

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01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, go, we're we're heading back into the

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01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:54.319
<v Speaker 1>right direction right between Thunderbolts in this movie, right, we're

1090
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:57.720
<v Speaker 1>we're heading back into like, Okay, these are good, fundamental movies.

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01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 1>They are not oh my god, you need to go

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01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:03.880
<v Speaker 1>out and see this right now or whatever, but they're

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01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:10.199
<v Speaker 1>worth watching. Honestly. Uh, if I hadn't gone on the

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01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:12.439
<v Speaker 1>day that the movie to you costs five dollars, I

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01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:17.680
<v Speaker 1>might have been a little bit upset because both everybody

1096
01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 1>fell asleep and sent me.

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01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:25.039
<v Speaker 2>So that's good. Yeah, little endorsement right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, she did not They like, they liked Thunderbolts

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01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot, but they did not like this movie at

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01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:35.880
<v Speaker 1>all because there's not the I do think like they

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01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 1>were missing more of the comedy. They were missing more

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01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Johnny and uh than messing around with each other.

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01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 2>And I actually didn't mind that because I don't need

1104
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:50.880
<v Speaker 2>every Marvel movie to sound the same. Or it had

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01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the energy. Yeah, like the fact Johnny did crack a

1106
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:59.439
<v Speaker 2>few jokes, but Ben was pretty straight laced or you know,

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01:09:59.479 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 2>he's just kind of there. Yeah. Yeah, they were like

1108
01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:06.239
<v Speaker 2>constantly equipping. I think it would have would have dredged

1109
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:06.720
<v Speaker 2>done a little.

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01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I don't think they needed to constantly quip

1111
01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:17.760
<v Speaker 1>but I did like the interactions between Read and There's

1112
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:21.439
<v Speaker 1>a Woman. They did great too, uh like kind of

1113
01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.640
<v Speaker 1>brought in that like a little bit bite to the

1114
01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>relationship thing and then that whole part.

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01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he saw like and he thought it was okay.

1116
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he gave it like a six, maybe a seven.

1117
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:37.079
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't like the lactice at all. Like he

1118
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I don't understand his motivation. I was like,

1119
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:45.720
<v Speaker 2>he eats, he doesn't need motive, Like what motivation? Yeah, well,

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01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 2>he either wants to eat the world or like corrupt

1121
01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:51.720
<v Speaker 2>the kid, like that's all that is there.

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01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, he's trying to get the kid so that he's

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01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of replaced him, and also kind of like so

1124
01:10:59.760 --> 01:11:00.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not alone time.

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01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah yeah, So you don't need more motivation than that.

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01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can have that, sure, but like I

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01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:13.800
<v Speaker 2>don't need some ten minute long you know, prologue orlass.

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01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you definitely. Yeah, thank god they did not spend

1129
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.039
<v Speaker 1>telling me the whole history of Galactus or whatever. This

1130
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 1>definitely felt like, Okay, if you really wanted to know

1131
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 1>about these characters, reading the comic books would have done.

1132
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eighty years of history, go crack up in a

1133
01:11:29.880 --> 01:11:32.520
<v Speaker 2>fantastic for one online read it or you know.

1134
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Marvel actually has like a YouTube video like recap of

1135
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the whole.

1136
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Right thing too.

1137
01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like an hour and a half if you want

1138
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to really go dive into that.

1139
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.880
<v Speaker 2>But and the best part of that movie is more Man.

1140
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Man was funny. Agree. Uh the music was too.

1141
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I so Yen's liked the music, like the

1142
01:11:55.960 --> 01:12:00.600
<v Speaker 2>soundtrack quite a bit. I yeah, fantas ask for a

1143
01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 2>choir song got like for a while. Yeah, they played

1144
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:08.880
<v Speaker 2>it in the trailers constantly, So I didn't like that.

1145
01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:12.479
<v Speaker 2>But the one song I hated it I assume structed

1146
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.399
<v Speaker 2>through the credits. Yeah, I did play a song right

1147
01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the credits that is like some Yeah,

1148
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I thought of you Joan Baia this piece of shit

1149
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:23.760
<v Speaker 2>like cover because you wore me.

1150
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.039
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, okay, I kind of see

1151
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 1>what Mark's talking about.

1152
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh my god, this is awful.

1153
01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Also, I kind of felt like, okay, I really could

1154
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 1>have just not waited to the credits for that.

1155
01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also like the reason I don't like that

1156
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 2>song also is like it's that song is like a

1157
01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>hippie song basically, and it's like there's no hippies at

1158
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:45.560
<v Speaker 2>all in this movie.

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01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's this based in the sixties, I guess.

1160
01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:51.439
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, but I took a tech like a like

1161
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:56.560
<v Speaker 2>futuristic retro future. Yeah, like they wouldn't have to sixties. Yeah,

1162
01:12:56.560 --> 01:12:59.079
<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't tolerate hippies at all. There was running up

1163
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and shot them. And I haven't watched it all. I

1164
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 2>don't think you care at all her. But they did

1165
01:13:08.520 --> 01:13:10.279
<v Speaker 2>bring Twists Metals back as well.

1166
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm gonna probably start I might watch some

1167
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of that tomorrow. Yeah.

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01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I watched like the first five minutes of a new

1169
01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:22.680
<v Speaker 2>episode and I was all right, like, I'll get back

1170
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 2>to this later. But then I heard someone talking about

1171
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it at a game store like a few days ago,

1172
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.199
<v Speaker 2>like and they were like, oh, I know, I heard

1173
01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the bringing Cliss and Metal back and I didn't say it,

1174
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:36.279
<v Speaker 2>but I was just thinking, like it's been back for

1175
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 2>two weeks, like no one cared, like.

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01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, that's uh. I don't know if I'll probably

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01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:51.279
<v Speaker 1>just wait till Superman gets on Max or yeah whatever

1178
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.880
<v Speaker 1>at this point, I don't know unless they decide that

1179
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they they if I'll see if maybe they want to

1180
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:58.159
<v Speaker 1>go check it out. Tomorrow, but I don't think so

1181
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.119
<v Speaker 1>we're definitely gonna go see Nobody to next week.

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01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah I didn't. I'm not seeing it in the theater.

1183
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 2>But I pre ordered the weapons like four K steel book.

1184
01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 1>So oh, I gotta watch that with the Naya that

1185
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 1>comes out. Sure. But yeah, I just I've been watching

1186
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:27.640
<v Speaker 1>some like documentaries on stuff that I find on HBO

1187
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Max I get bored on or not bored, but like

1188
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.880
<v Speaker 1>just I don't have my gaming stuff when I go

1189
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to my girlfriend's house, so right, I'm just find things

1190
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to watch and that kind of entertains me while she's

1191
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:46.119
<v Speaker 1>gardening or you know whatever, when she doesn't when she's

1192
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:52.279
<v Speaker 1>doing other stuff. So yeah, uh, there's one that was

1193
01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 1>like the murder in Boston, which was really well done.

1194
01:14:56.439 --> 01:14:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I gout race relations in Boston along with this court

1195
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 1>case is going on, so yeah, and then I've been

1196
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:06.199
<v Speaker 1>watching those. They have a new one that has two

1197
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:10.479
<v Speaker 1>episodes now, the Yogurt Shop murders and in Austin. H

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01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Being from Texas, I remember hearing about that like as

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01:15:14.680 --> 01:15:17.720
<v Speaker 1>I got older. Obviously I was like three when right,

1200
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like three when they happened, but as I got older,

1201
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.840
<v Speaker 1>even living in Dallas. You kind of heard about it sometimes,

1202
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:27.239
<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of cool to have the story background

1203
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:34.880
<v Speaker 1>to it. But yeah, of course soccer is back now,

1204
01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:37.680
<v Speaker 1>so that's been my thing, and then football is on

1205
01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:41.079
<v Speaker 1>you back soon, so yeah, we'll have plenty of things.

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01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:43.680
<v Speaker 2>You start the sports podcast yet again.

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01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll drive my girlfriend crazy with oh my god,

1208
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put the damn Cowboys on. Don't start screaming

1209
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to the tv, right, But all right, thank you everybody

1210
01:15:56.640 --> 01:15:59.760
<v Speaker 1>for watching listening however, you check us out, give us

1211
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>a view, like subscribe on the YouTube channel, go give

1212
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:08.199
<v Speaker 1>us five stars over there on the podcast side, and

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01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:09.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll see you next week

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<v Speaker 2>Later
