Speaker 1: You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Seun Gomery with me as usual mister
Speaker 1: Mark Morrison at it and this is episode four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty six of the show. And well, it was
Speaker 1: a kind of a weird week in games. We had
Speaker 1: the Nintendo Indie World. I will go through that. I
Speaker 1: got to play the Men of the Hollower demo, so
Speaker 1: I will discuss that as well. We got some fun
Speaker 1: things with Embracer bringing back red octane. I mean, Guitar
Speaker 1: Rhythm Games are making a comeback, sold those rumors about
Speaker 1: if you know, activations and back Guitar Hero or not,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. And then you got a far Cry
Speaker 1: TV show to go along with that Assassin's Creed TV show.
Speaker 1: So I guess you yourself is ramping it up on
Speaker 1: games and TV shows. Why not. Sony's PlayStation five keep
Speaker 1: selling well. But you got some interesting comments from their
Speaker 1: CFO this week about live service and one that made
Speaker 1: everybody go nuts on the whole internet as far as
Speaker 1: those you know, console warriors go. And there's a few
Speaker 1: other things as well, so we'll get into all that
Speaker 1: and more a right, so really quickly here, let's get
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's about it here for the housekeeping. Let's
Speaker 1: do something a little bit differently because Mean of the
Speaker 1: Hollower has to do. I wouldn't be able to play
Speaker 1: this demo if it wasn't for the Nintendo Indie World
Speaker 1: Showcase that happened on Thursday. This was not anything, you know,
Speaker 1: big deal to ride home. Did you end up watching
Speaker 1: this or no?
Speaker 2: I wat took a part of it, but a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff seemed not great.
Speaker 1: I'll say, yeah, it's fifteen minutes, not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: take a up a lot of your time. But you
Speaker 1: also really don't need to go in and go nuts
Speaker 1: from watch it. Honestly, we can give you the highlights
Speaker 1: right here. Mean to the Hollower is the gem of
Speaker 1: the whole thing. I'll talk about the demo in a second.
Speaker 1: Never way has a twenty twenty sixth release date. That's
Speaker 1: a I was shown at the Latin Game Showcase. I
Speaker 1: think I talked about it during the Summer game Fest week.
Speaker 1: It's like a horror like farming sim kind of thing,
Speaker 1: which is kind of cool because you don't see that
Speaker 1: genre mixed hardly.
Speaker 2: It looks like Craft made Stardi Valley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it looks cool, has that sort of you know,
Speaker 1: the pixel arse and all that stuff. Is This seat
Speaker 1: taken is an interesting take on the whole simulation thing,
Speaker 1: except for now you're doing the seating arrangements instead of
Speaker 1: the things you normally do in a restaurant or why not.
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting take there too. Ball Pit, which
Speaker 1: continues to be a surprising hit every time I see it,
Speaker 1: and also exciting news that it's going to be day
Speaker 1: one game Pass, so I was already excited to play
Speaker 1: it without game Pass being there. Definitely going to be
Speaker 1: checking that out now that it is on game Pass
Speaker 1: as well. Hurdling also kind of neat, interesting look on
Speaker 1: a different kind of simulation type game is going to
Speaker 1: probably be one of those like have those touching narratives
Speaker 1: kind of thing, I'm sure. And UFO fifty is on
Speaker 1: Switch now. That game was a hit last year on PC.
Speaker 1: Great to see it on his Man. It feels like
Speaker 1: I should have been on Switch a while ago, but
Speaker 1: glad to see it finally is going to be on
Speaker 1: there and you can go, you know, play that now
Speaker 1: if you want, which I definitely recommend. It's literally like
Speaker 1: fifty different games that feel like they're in the nes
Speaker 1: era and then they they get better as they go along.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like almost like a history thing as well,
Speaker 1: which is neat. So yeah, I'm looking into whether I
Speaker 1: want to get it or not, since I don't know
Speaker 1: if I have anything until the end of the month,
Speaker 1: and even then Lost Suicide. It's such like a every
Speaker 1: time it feels like it's a mixed bag. Every time
Speaker 1: somebody talks about it, it's like it just went gold,
Speaker 1: so we know it is not going to get delayed again.
Speaker 1: But then also people keep like saying, maybe you need
Speaker 1: to wait for reviews. Don't go out and just buy
Speaker 1: it immediately. I don't know. It doesn't give me good
Speaker 1: good vibes. Usually you want people being like, yeah, just
Speaker 1: go buy the same day one. Speaking of that, a
Speaker 1: game you might want to go by day one when
Speaker 1: it comes out. Theist Ah I think from Yacht Club games,
Speaker 1: and it does not involved shovel minas the Hollower, which
Speaker 1: if you've probably seen this game in some form, it's uh.
Speaker 1: You play as a mouse named Mina. She is a
Speaker 1: hollower and she literally you burrow underground with her, and
Speaker 1: then you can also have different weapons. I love Zelda,
Speaker 1: and very much plays like a mixture between, like a
Speaker 1: Zelda game with a bit more action to it obviously,
Speaker 1: and then it has some kind of solsy type elements
Speaker 1: like when you die, you lose some gold or they
Speaker 1: call it bones here the currency, and you know, I
Speaker 1: had a lot that I don't know exactly how long
Speaker 1: the demo is. I played quite a bit of it.
Speaker 1: Also died quite a few times too.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Thankfully, it's not like, oh, you have to repeat the
Speaker 1: whole beginning of the level or whatever. At least maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know if the actual game is gonna be
Speaker 1: a bit more harsh as far as that goes, but
Speaker 1: they do have like a easy mode for the people
Speaker 1: that you know, I just kind of want to play
Speaker 1: through the game and not be bothered too much with
Speaker 1: having to repeat sections because some of the enemies are
Speaker 1: rather tough, you know, or at least they're kind of
Speaker 1: they definitely get in the way and make it difficult
Speaker 1: for you, So I would say that, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're just gonna walk in and cake walk
Speaker 1: this thing. It's it's definitely one to make sure you
Speaker 1: got the guard up and ready to take out. I
Speaker 1: like the they way, the different d the the puzzles
Speaker 1: and the different they have little secret areas things like
Speaker 1: that too, So it is I think it's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those indie darlings or whatnot when it
Speaker 1: finally comes right. Hopefully it does not. Hopefully it hits
Speaker 1: on time and everything that's what you want. Yaka Glames
Speaker 1: has done such a great job with Double nine as
Speaker 1: far as like it's probably one of the first like
Speaker 1: indies that they kind of made it its own thing, like,
Speaker 1: oh it's shovel Knight was in this, Shovel Knight was in.
Speaker 2: That, and yeah, they hold the character at pretty well.
Speaker 1: So I think Mina has the potential to kind of
Speaker 1: similarly do the same thing. Gonna be interesting that they
Speaker 1: have other characters that maybe they can adapt into being
Speaker 1: other characters play as if they add DLC or whatnot.
Speaker 1: But you know, having the three different weapons and all
Speaker 1: that does add like variety of the play style too,
Speaker 1: so it's cool. And also love the music in this thing,
Speaker 1: so that's always been a positive with the Yacht Club
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, definitely go check out the demo.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's also like limited time as well, so you know,
Speaker 1: am I going to go download it even if you're
Speaker 1: not going to play it immediately and then just kind
Speaker 1: of give it a whirl whenever you feel like it.
Speaker 2: But unless you know after a certain day, the demo
Speaker 2: just won't work anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I think it's more of a
Speaker 1: limited like eventually it just won't be available unless it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like a Steam next Best thing, But
Speaker 1: that's not the indication that I kind of get from it.
Speaker 1: But who knows. Yeah, I hope not hope it's not
Speaker 1: the Ladder because you still got almost what three months
Speaker 1: before that thing comes out. So yeah, that's pretty much
Speaker 1: like the only game I've been playing this week? H
Speaker 1: what uh have you been checking out here?
Speaker 2: I finished Party and I went I mean finished, I
Speaker 2: mean and got the Platinum trophy in nice. Yeah I
Speaker 2: didn't you, I did not whatever Xbox I.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of trophy. No, uh no, I got
Speaker 1: it on PSI.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. It ain't hard, you know, some
Speaker 2: of them are kind of busy work, I guess, but
Speaker 2: it was you know, I don't have to learn to
Speaker 2: play Majong or whatever. The other one, uh the chess game,
Speaker 2: you know, the Chess Japanese game, So that was a
Speaker 2: lot easier. What else? So yeah, I went back to
Speaker 2: dust rain in two. I did the hard There was
Speaker 2: one very hard delivery, so I haven't managed to do
Speaker 2: that finally, where it is a you have to visit
Speaker 2: seven enemy bases and pick stuff up at them and
Speaker 2: then deliver it to like this guy or these two guys,
Speaker 2: and you have a time limit of fifty minutes and
Speaker 2: you can't save Uh that's annoying too. Yeah, I'm actually
Speaker 2: do that, Like there's a kind of a way and
Speaker 2: just kind of cheat it with like the you know,
Speaker 2: the teleporting ship we have what else? Picked up a
Speaker 2: cheap Captain Marvelars Capcom two for the Dreamcast. That's fun,
Speaker 2: and I bought a I bought two uh old game
Speaker 2: boys recently, well like I got one of them like
Speaker 2: last week, I think Monday, And then I got another one,
Speaker 2: Like Wednesday picked up a game Boy Micro Wow, and
Speaker 2: like it's a it's not great, like yeah, the screens,
Speaker 2: like the size is kind of cool, but the screens
Speaker 2: is too small.
Speaker 1: But my mad is not great for you.
Speaker 2: All right, you know battery works. I had to buy
Speaker 2: a charger, but it you know, it actually seems to
Speaker 2: work fine. And the know one I bought is a
Speaker 2: game Boy Light. Do you know?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what the game Boy light is.
Speaker 2: So the game Boy Light was a Japanese only game
Speaker 2: Boy Ah. It kind of looks like a game Boy
Speaker 2: pocket except the bigger. Ah. And it has remember like
Speaker 2: in like the mid to early nineties, they had like
Speaker 2: watches with like a black or I watched it like
Speaker 2: a blue indigo back light. Yes, that is this, Like
Speaker 2: it has a blue indigo back light. Like oh, like
Speaker 2: it has a it has a go on off switch
Speaker 2: with it, like it can go further right to like
Speaker 2: the light switch and yeah, like lights to screen up.
Speaker 2: It's still a bad light, but you can technically use it.
Speaker 2: I always kind of wanted one, like I I'm aware
Speaker 2: that like you don't need a game Boy anymore. Or
Speaker 2: I have three other things that could do this better
Speaker 2: than what you know, but it's still cool and I
Speaker 2: like collecting this weird crap.
Speaker 1: So did you ever get the uh the analog thing?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the analog pocket? Oh yeah, I got that.
Speaker 2: Like Launch okay, yeah, that exit she has like a
Speaker 2: good screen. This is still like the game Boy screen.
Speaker 2: It just has a blue back light that's like not
Speaker 2: that bright. I mean, if you're in like a total
Speaker 2: pitch black, it's fine. But other than that, like it's
Speaker 2: not like, oh, this is a big improvement. It's like no,
Speaker 2: just it's okay, but not really you know, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's a kind of an obscure console, so I like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at its basically like a light coming
Speaker 1: through on a Yeah, looks like a game Boy color
Speaker 1: but they made a light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of it almost is kind of
Speaker 2: like the shape of a game Boy color like that,
Speaker 2: you know. Yes, except this only takes two batteries, like
Speaker 2: two double a's and like the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's cool. Uh. I guess it's about.
Speaker 1: It all right. Uh yeah, shorter section on the this here,
Speaker 1: but hey, at least we'll get into the news faster here.
Speaker 1: Might as well start with Sony, and they had some
Speaker 1: good financial results, including eighty million PS fives have been
Speaker 1: shipped to sold in all this time, so they are
Speaker 1: right there with the PS four, so that's that's good.
Speaker 1: They're at least keeping up with the former and also
Speaker 1: like a right around with the PS three as well,
Speaker 1: So again that whole idea of you're still selling, you're
Speaker 1: selling to the same people, but those same people are
Speaker 1: still buying the consoles, so that's that's good. That's positive.
Speaker 1: At least you're not seeing a drop, so right, it
Speaker 1: helps a lot that you as far as the space
Speaker 1: that the PS five occupies, you don't have competition really anymore.
Speaker 1: There's rumors going around that a combination of Xbox Series
Speaker 1: X and S has only led to thirty million sales.
Speaker 1: Now that's not official Xbox number or Microsoft numbers, and
Speaker 1: we probably won't ever get that until maybe the end
Speaker 1: of the generation, perhaps when they don't care anymore what
Speaker 1: the Series XS sales at all, not that they really
Speaker 1: care that much now, but you know, comparatively, Sony is
Speaker 1: doing wonderfully in that category. The PlayStation Nework currently has
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three million active views which is
Speaker 1: seven million more since the same time last year. Sixty
Speaker 1: six million PS four and PS five games were sold
Speaker 1: between April and June, which is up twelve million on
Speaker 1: last year as well. Only six point nine million of
Speaker 1: those were first party titles though, but I mean they
Speaker 1: bealely didn't have any first party Yeah, titles will be
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of a week year for first party stuff.
Speaker 1: That's when you attach all your your eggs in one
Speaker 1: basket essentially, and most of them don't hit.
Speaker 2: You the day is gone, remastered it and blow the
Speaker 2: doors off the sales charts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that was the one everybody was
Speaker 1: waiting on for sure. You know, of course they the
Speaker 1: thing that that helps Sony obviously is that they aren't
Speaker 1: just like Microsoft. They aren't all about PlayStation. But the
Speaker 1: difference between Xbox and PlayStation is that PlayStation makes up
Speaker 1: like sixty percent of Sony's revenue compared to you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's like twenty or like they're in the
Speaker 1: same line as was it Office or something or not,
Speaker 1: like a smaller much smaller portion of whatever Microsoft's. Right
Speaker 1: thing is, I don't want member offhand the chart that
Speaker 1: I saw that was like they're in the same realm
Speaker 1: with some other Microsoft software thing. But still the fact
Speaker 1: that you are the big leader when you you know,
Speaker 1: Sony has their own movie studio, Sony has their own
Speaker 1: music group, all of that stuff. Hey, it says a
Speaker 1: lot about this company and what they've relied on all
Speaker 1: these years. You know, being number one has definitely helped.
Speaker 2: I mean it also helps that, I mean Microsoft is
Speaker 2: much bigger company still, but it helps that, like Sony
Speaker 2: diversifies its holdings like you just said, and then it's
Speaker 2: focusing all on AI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So, and that being said, they Sony's CFO
Speaker 1: had some interesting comments to make. We'll get into the
Speaker 1: ones that got people in a tizzy and a little
Speaker 1: bit here. But Sony's CFO Lin Tao replied when asked
Speaker 1: about you know why Sony's live service has been you know,
Speaker 1: negative and what they're looking at when it comes to
Speaker 1: their live service plan going forward. Yeah, and he says
Speaker 1: that despite that negativity, he still thinks that, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not going to have another concord again. They have Marathon.
Speaker 1: They have added a revenue stream that didn't exist for
Speaker 1: the company five years ago. So you know, if we
Speaker 1: look in the past five years. Five years ago, live
Speaker 1: service games were almost on existible questions in studios. We
Speaker 1: now have hell Divers too and will be at the show,
Speaker 1: and grants as WIST seven and Budget's Destiny too, So
Speaker 1: we have all these four live service contributing to sales
Speaker 1: and profits in a stable manner. In fact, he noted
Speaker 1: that Sony's the live service games are kind of for
Speaker 1: forty percent of first party software revenue for the past quarter.
Speaker 2: So you know, wait, he calls MLB the show a
Speaker 2: life service game, So it is.
Speaker 1: Games are live service games. We know that.
Speaker 2: Come on, then I can make new versions of it
Speaker 2: then for next year.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it is like lives those things continue
Speaker 1: on people. You know, those servers are still up playing
Speaker 1: those games that they just count them all as one.
Speaker 1: They don't. They they're kind of as different skews for
Speaker 1: the you know, yearly sales data, but they counted all
Speaker 1: as one.
Speaker 2: Also, I wouldn't. I wouldn't count Grand Troops for seven
Speaker 2: of the Licerice game either.
Speaker 1: I guess they do because it's a continual thing and
Speaker 1: that's actually been positive right for them, So of course, uh,
Speaker 1: why not when you can interesting that two of those,
Speaker 1: you know, are on Xbox or three of them are
Speaker 1: on Xbox. Destiny to held ivers too as soon to
Speaker 1: be and you got to be the show even though
Speaker 1: I will be the show is not there doing that
Speaker 1: was that will be that made that coright. But still,
Speaker 1: I mean he is right in that that is a
Speaker 1: revenue source that they didn't have, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like the problem is like the direction the
Speaker 2: company went into. They went all in the life service games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: or you know they had the twelve game. You know,
Speaker 2: you want twelve live service games. It's like, okay, but
Speaker 2: now you don't have any money to really invest in
Speaker 2: single player stuff, which I think people like more or
Speaker 2: you know, I think some people like more or it's
Speaker 2: not it's not a small factor. And that's that's what's
Speaker 2: kind of like not doing great at the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like Astrobot was good, don't get me wrong, but you
Speaker 2: know that came out. They're not making a new after
Speaker 2: about every year. They're not going to make you know,
Speaker 2: a new got a War every year or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, then I'm making a new Horizon every year.
Speaker 1: And know that they have the multiplayer projects right right,
Speaker 1: so you know they're they're I'm.
Speaker 2: Not like opposed to a live service game necessarily, like,
Speaker 2: but I think the problem is just Sonny got a
Speaker 2: little little too I wouldn't say ahead of the game,
Speaker 2: but a little too. It's overly excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit too excited, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's what led to Concord and you know Marathon.
Speaker 2: And also I think a lot of live service games,
Speaker 2: like the traditional ones or like the ones that people
Speaker 2: would consider like more life service games, that's more of
Speaker 2: a natural process to get into or like, you know,
Speaker 2: a natural ground swell of interest or support, like when
Speaker 2: Fortnite came out initially, like it wasn't like the biggest
Speaker 2: thing ever or but it grew that audience and not
Speaker 2: kind of is or even you know, I guess itex
Speaker 2: did okay, but I mean it grew its audience. And
Speaker 2: but I think like when they're when they try to
Speaker 2: pump it up too fast or too much, then that's
Speaker 2: what you know, players just get like this is a
Speaker 2: fake thing, and then they stop playing it or they
Speaker 2: like look at like confinnity Nikki.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you mess up your game, it doesn't at all. Uh,
Speaker 1: it sucks. I mean that sucks that you know, you
Speaker 1: really liked that game, and then they they found a
Speaker 1: way to mess it up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't actually boot it up a few days ago.
Speaker 2: First of all, the patching for that game takes forever. Ah,
Speaker 2: it took me like a half hour, and I see,
Speaker 2: this is only a twelve gigabyte pat and I got
Speaker 2: good internet, like, so, what's the most problem here? And
Speaker 2: then I just like loaded up like the quest screen
Speaker 2: and just shut the game off because I don't I
Speaker 2: don't even understand this anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: So what what have they changed? Oh?
Speaker 2: They had like not they had like at least three
Speaker 2: or four different time events going off at once, like
Speaker 2: so there were like multiple quests, like multiple quests you
Speaker 2: can do to like unlock other ship, and you know
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, there's this sunrise or like this like
Speaker 2: weather quest, and you know, there was like this main
Speaker 2: quest and I'm like I I didn't even know where
Speaker 2: to what to do, Like, wow, yeah, I'll probably I'll
Speaker 2: probably be deleting that at some point. Even though. What's
Speaker 2: funny is like right before they ruined the game, you
Speaker 2: put money into it, like twenty bucks, so I have
Speaker 2: like paid currency in the game that all the never used.
Speaker 1: Uh, that sucks. Yeah, it's like, man, right when I'm
Speaker 1: I think it's good to invest and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of was like I wasn't expecting. I
Speaker 2: guess I didn't really know the patch like it was
Speaker 2: gonna come out. I mean, well I knew the patch
Speaker 2: was coming out, but like I didn't know like how
Speaker 2: it would like affect the game like that. So like
Speaker 2: a week before that the Ruinous patch came out, I
Speaker 2: put like twenty bucks in and then that patch came
Speaker 2: out and it destroyed, you know, all the good will
Speaker 2: that the game had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well ce LEVI there. Yeah, I'll see how long
Speaker 1: it is actually around. Must you know if they don't
Speaker 1: have some announcement that says, well, it's you know, it
Speaker 1: has now been taken down.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean it ever take I mean it
Speaker 2: would take a while for it to be taken down.
Speaker 2: But I think what they'll do eventually do is do
Speaker 2: like a return to basics or like return to form
Speaker 2: patch where they roll back out of the craft that
Speaker 2: people don't like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully at least so that you know, you can
Speaker 1: maybe get back into it at some point, right, But
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of shows the folly of that
Speaker 1: sometimes of just you understand why you go after it, right,
Speaker 1: It's understandable why Sony wants to go after it, right,
Speaker 1: they just did too much at once, and you know,
Speaker 1: the ones that are still out there outside of the
Speaker 1: horizon don't look great. And I mean marathons still, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with that when it finally comes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: You know, for the most part, again, like that's that
Speaker 1: was the whole point of it is just at least
Speaker 1: Sony is making some kind of revenue, even though there's
Speaker 1: a lot more losses with the the bad stuff that
Speaker 1: has hit them obviously, right. So, but like you said,
Speaker 1: they do diversify their investments. And there was a quote
Speaker 1: that was kind of taken out of context by the
Speaker 1: Console Warrior crowd that took that was like greater part
Speaker 1: of a bigger statement on essentially they are Sony's continue
Speaker 1: with that diversification and that extends into gaming as well.
Speaker 1: The quote actually goes, so the investment in vanday and
Speaker 1: of course we have been shifting to creation. So for example,
Speaker 1: the entertainment three businesses basically account for sixty percent of
Speaker 1: consolidate revenue. So basically our business portfolio is shifting more
Speaker 1: to creation. And then as for the eletrona's busines and
Speaker 1: TV compared to output devices, we are now shifting to
Speaker 1: creation devices that include digital camera to As a result,
Speaker 1: we are seeing more stability and profitability and revenue and
Speaker 1: also the productivity of our performance is increasing. And also
Speaker 1: the music business music streaming and EMI music publishing has
Speaker 1: been acquired, and then we increase the music catalog as
Speaker 1: I mentioned in the speech and gaming business and moving
Speaker 1: away from a hardware centric business to more of the
Speaker 1: community based engagement business, and then that has been increasing.
Speaker 1: So now as we make more transition to entertainment creation,
Speaker 1: the stability of productivity, our performance is increasing. So this
Speaker 1: upward division might not have been a direct result of
Speaker 1: these however, the music publishing OUTSCOC, position of music catalog
Speaker 1: outside positionive crunchy role, these are the areas where we
Speaker 1: have seen growth and that's helped them improve profitability. So yeah,
Speaker 1: of course when you are the main anime streaming service,
Speaker 1: that's going to help you. Of Course net Netflix is
Speaker 1: also you know, taking a chunk out of them as well,
Speaker 1: because they're we've talked about I think that like last week,
Speaker 1: or we can go you know two weeks ago that
Speaker 1: more people are watching anime now because of Netflix having
Speaker 1: it on there. But you know, it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: Sony is moving away from hardware at all. It just
Speaker 1: means that Sony is understanding that you also need to
Speaker 1: make sure you drive up content, drive up other things, right,
Speaker 1: have those magical. That's why they went to the m
Speaker 1: AU model now instead of talking about other things, because
Speaker 1: that's what people care about, right, They want to see
Speaker 1: how how engaged are you in our ecosystem? How engaged
Speaker 1: are you in the console or whatever thing you're using
Speaker 1: to play their games? All right, So, which is similar
Speaker 1: to the Microsoft approach, just a different approach in general.
Speaker 1: Sonny very much still obviously, Look, you don't get eighty
Speaker 1: million consoles out of nothing, right, it's because they value it.
Speaker 1: So that's not going away anytime soon. In fact, according
Speaker 1: to rumors from you know, the Moors, Law is dead guy,
Speaker 1: he's already out there talking about different specs for the
Speaker 1: PS six and the handheld PS six and even the
Speaker 1: Xbox whatever that's gonna be. So not talking about it
Speaker 1: on here, just because like literally we're in the infancy
Speaker 1: of next gen whatever that's gonna be although like you
Speaker 1: know him talking about, oh, the Xbox is really just
Speaker 1: going to be a PC and they like it really
Speaker 1: is going to be that. Okay, we already kind of
Speaker 1: knew that that's needs to be where they're going, and
Speaker 1: then PlayStation may have a lower spec console. Like, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be them trying to do the PS five,
Speaker 1: you know, PS six pro out of the bat, you know,
Speaker 1: off the bat, because they're going to try to keep
Speaker 1: the prices down. We'll see, we'll see. Look that it
Speaker 1: may not come out till twenty twenty eight, so we
Speaker 1: have no idea what we're talking about two and a
Speaker 1: half years from now. That's a long time when it
Speaker 1: comes to a lot of things still got to happen, right,
Speaker 1: We got to get to the end of this generation first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even you know, even when the PS six comes out,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be like a hard cut or
Speaker 2: a hard break from PS five.
Speaker 1: I mean like a no, definitely not. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: the He's right in that, there's gonna be back of
Speaker 1: for fedibility for the handheld, even for PS five and
Speaker 1: PS four. That was the whole reason why they went
Speaker 1: with AMD was they wanted to make sure that that
Speaker 1: was still there, right, They did not want to make
Speaker 1: the mistake of PS three again where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't do that, and then PS four comes and
Speaker 1: oh you can't play these games at all, you know,
Speaker 1: natively to put them on the digital store. So you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't want to deal with that again. It's just
Speaker 1: that's smart. Let's let's keep going having that go on
Speaker 1: through the generations or whatever. Whether we're playing on you know,
Speaker 1: in twenty years old, we're just exclusively playing that on
Speaker 1: the cloud or just on our TVs or whatever. However
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. But right, you know, for now, that's
Speaker 1: how this it is. Yeah, do you think it's I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking at this point, they're just it's gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, like midway through twenty twenty eight or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, I heard some speculation of twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 2: but it is I think that's just still too early.
Speaker 2: I think the way making them in twenty twenty seven though,
Speaker 2: or at least have oh yeah, we'll definitely have more
Speaker 2: info the console, like lockdown or you know, maybe even
Speaker 2: like what it looks like and stuff. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Can you please make it smaller? That's all I ask.
Speaker 1: I don't need this behemoth of console like where you
Speaker 1: literally can't.
Speaker 2: Like I mean, but making it smaller, like can't affect
Speaker 2: the power or it can affect you know they want
Speaker 2: to put into it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not talking about making it tiny, even though
Speaker 1: I have seen some people saying they might have a
Speaker 1: PS five that's the size of a router or something,
Speaker 1: which should that be crazy small? Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: even the Series X is not that gigantic compared to
Speaker 1: that thing. It's like that that It's like I have
Speaker 1: behind my TV and I can't I can't put in
Speaker 1: thing near it.
Speaker 2: Because length wise, maybe about like the Xbox Series X
Speaker 2: is like this big monolith looking thing, like.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's just a block. It's a big black block.
Speaker 1: It has no if you take the standoff of it,
Speaker 1: it just looks like a like old lot of nothing
Speaker 1: with a little X button on that turns on me.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, so it's just interesting and design choices
Speaker 1: between two companies, right, they couldn't have made it more different,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, look, uh, people are taking that
Speaker 1: stuff out of context to mean that, oh, Sony's going
Speaker 1: towards software. They're doing the Microsoft thing, and it's like,
Speaker 1: like we talked about last week, it's like, maybe there
Speaker 1: are going to be more games, but it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not the Microsoft strategy at all, because they want you
Speaker 1: to buy their PS fives and PS six and whatever
Speaker 1: else after that.
Speaker 2: This is as I get to that PlayStation nine commercial
Speaker 2: the aired a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but we're going to leave Sony behind here
Speaker 1: to go into Xbox for a little bit. Because once again,
Speaker 1: even though this feels like they just kind of weren't
Speaker 1: sure and then kind of made the final decision afterwards,
Speaker 1: so it looks like it's just like they might as
Speaker 1: well just have announced this with the other ones. But
Speaker 1: Contraband is essentially been canceled. According to Avalanche and Steven Detillo,
Speaker 1: the game has ceased active development. Jason Schreier run out
Speaker 1: and just flat out said it's canceled. We only saw
Speaker 1: like a cinematic trailer, and it's not like we ever
Speaker 1: really saw a lot of what the game is. To me,
Speaker 1: this is kind of like ever Wild, where it's like
Speaker 1: I don't feel like there's a lot. The concept seemed cool,
Speaker 1: but we never really got to see it flushed out right,
Speaker 1: So I'm not heartbroken by it at all. I hope
Speaker 1: that it doesn't mean that this studio will now have
Speaker 1: layoffs at some point here. I definitely don't want people
Speaker 1: losing their jobs at all. But you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is like the huge thing that. No it's
Speaker 1: I mean, it sucks that people making the game, but
Speaker 1: as far as like for the consumer, for you, the gamer,
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: a big loss.
Speaker 2: I think everyone forgot about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, and it was just like one
Speaker 1: of those games would bring up and like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's contraband, Okay.
Speaker 2: But like it's still like when they announced when they
Speaker 2: announced just a few days ago that what's that? Like,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what it was. I'd like, look
Speaker 2: at the trailer again, I'm like I kind of remember this,
Speaker 2: I guess. But that's a problem as a problem of
Speaker 2: like no gameplay trailers that I think Microsoft does more
Speaker 2: than Tony or Nintendo. Like they show like a mood
Speaker 2: trailer and it's like that's okay, I guess, but you know,
Speaker 2: like it it's not like exciting about the game because
Speaker 2: not showing the game ah, but you know, I like
Speaker 2: the Avalanche. I didn't like just Cause for it all,
Speaker 2: but you know, just costs two and three were good.
Speaker 2: Get back to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the just Cause stuff. Yeah, it's just uh,
Speaker 1: it's one of those where it's like, Okay, this was
Speaker 1: a cool concept. There's kind of a lot of what
Speaker 1: we Yeah.
Speaker 2: They didn't even know what it was because all they
Speaker 2: said was a co op open world game and that
Speaker 2: was it, and yeah, okay, that's just that's like just
Speaker 2: Cause too, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like kind of had a little bit of a
Speaker 1: maybe horrors.
Speaker 2: It sound like a smuggling game or.
Speaker 1: H exactly like a smug like a game game they
Speaker 1: wanted you to play with with other people like maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah setting off high or literally smuggling in goods like
Speaker 2: another country or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's like, oh, this is that game, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and then that's it, and it's like okay, well,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess we'll see more of it later.
Speaker 1: And then they didn't have it at the development direct thing.
Speaker 1: They didn't show it at the showcase.
Speaker 2: So aside from the one trailer, it didn't show it
Speaker 2: anything at all.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's not the huge loss. It's just
Speaker 1: it is another game that has been canceled. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they'd still have over forty development whatever that is, right,
Speaker 1: We'll see if hopefully most of those come out, but uh,
Speaker 1: they did fine. We did finally hear from the Fords,
Speaker 1: the Motorsport team after they didn't say anything that they
Speaker 1: are still working on for As the Motorsport that the
Speaker 1: game is not like, you know, just not going anywhere
Speaker 1: or whatnot. So I guess for As the Motorsport fans
Speaker 1: can be okay for now that they are still that
Speaker 1: both Playground and them are still working on Forza and
Speaker 1: the franchise will be okay, even though they lost a
Speaker 1: lot of the team, which sucks.
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think it's gonna make Horizon
Speaker 2: six and then I think Motorsport is done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, motors Flow will probably just be this kind of
Speaker 1: like Grand Seras most seven. You just kind of keep
Speaker 1: it going for the people that want it. Obviously not
Speaker 1: as big a scale as seven as growing Choose with seven,
Speaker 1: which you know did really well PlayStation.
Speaker 2: So right, that game is like still expensive too. It's
Speaker 2: still at least like forty or fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to lower it while that game
Speaker 1: is doing well, right, it makes sense. But speaking of
Speaker 1: people leaving studios, Rod ferguson this, I feel like this
Speaker 1: has been This was like rumored a while ago, and
Speaker 1: then now he's finally officially leaving after being with you know,
Speaker 1: he's formally with Coalition, previously with Right with Gears of War,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you know, he moved on to
Speaker 1: Rational Games, did stuff with Black Tuskin two K, and
Speaker 1: then then he's also you know, he went back and
Speaker 1: work with Bizard on Diablo and then full circle came
Speaker 1: back to Macrooft again and then now he's he's gone.
Speaker 1: You know, he feels like the game is in a
Speaker 1: strong place, and he's he's leaving after his third tour
Speaker 1: of duty with with Microsoft.
Speaker 2: But he was like, yeah, partially right, He's right about
Speaker 2: the second one. But I wouldn't. I don't think Diablo
Speaker 2: four is necessarily like a hugely strong position.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, did the like that that expansion brought
Speaker 1: people back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you know they play through the content
Speaker 2: once and then let's say all right, I'm I'm done,
Speaker 2: or yeah, I don't want to create a seasonal character,
Speaker 2: or you know, you create like most people create, like
Speaker 2: the new character class and that's that's it. But and
Speaker 2: it's funny like they more monetized Diablo three, or they
Speaker 2: try to with the whole auction house and that fell apart.
Speaker 2: But you get the sense that they're trying to really
Speaker 2: do that with Diablo four with this with the store.
Speaker 2: But all the star stuff is just garbage, or most
Speaker 2: of it is.
Speaker 1: Do you think they could ever take out that part of.
Speaker 2: No, It's like I think people some people like it,
Speaker 2: but I'm talking I guess just for myself, like a
Speaker 2: lot of it's just like ugly as hell? Are it
Speaker 2: just like so like really generic and boring? Like I
Speaker 2: want it to be like actually cool looking, and most
Speaker 2: of it is just not. Yeah, I mean I guess
Speaker 2: that that might go further for me because I just
Speaker 2: don't like the look of Diablo four that much.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I mean it's not like that
Speaker 1: that game is gonna keep going, right, We'll see what
Speaker 1: more updates they add to it and the few. Sure,
Speaker 1: yeah there is things go on with it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: the only other thing, I guess kind of adjacent because
Speaker 1: you know, EA has the Ya play with game pass.
Speaker 1: Also Mark Darra had a interview with mister Mighty Plays
Speaker 1: on his YouTube channel. Of course, he is a former
Speaker 1: Bioer executive producer. He revealed during this interview that they
Speaker 1: tried to pitch e A on doing a dragon Age
Speaker 1: one to three we master similar to the mass Effect
Speaker 1: one the three master, and they said no, yeah, obviously
Speaker 1: dragon Age is much harder to do the mass effect
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more unknowns, right because dragon Age
Speaker 1: Organs is not is essentially like isn't it like different.
Speaker 2: Than well dragon Age Georgians. Uh, dragon Age one and
Speaker 2: two are on like their proprietary engine from back in
Speaker 2: the day what it's called. Uh, so that would be
Speaker 2: like the real problem dragon Age the third one, I
Speaker 2: forget what it's called. Uh, that's not frostbite. So it'd
Speaker 2: probably be a lot easier to do, but they would
Speaker 2: literally have to like remake dragon Age one and two
Speaker 2: and that's an undertaking. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and they also he mentions that you have to
Speaker 1: like they have to get some kind of They almost
Speaker 1: had an idea of getting a like a bunch of
Speaker 1: people that know how to do mods to remake dragon
Speaker 1: Age Origans because it was, like you said, it's been
Speaker 1: a different.
Speaker 2: Yeah engine, the Eclipse engine, and it looked it up. So
Speaker 2: I can see why, I mean, I think work, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can Like he said like Ohea doesn't like remasters. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's like just get like because they don't like free money.
Speaker 2: It's like this isn't free money. Like this would be
Speaker 2: a lot lot of work for at least two of
Speaker 2: those games. One of them isn't particularly well liked, and
Speaker 2: considering like that Dragon Age is kind of tarnished as
Speaker 2: a franchise, Like could this make it up? Probably not,
Speaker 2: like would it make the money back? Even that's probably
Speaker 2: pretty if he depending on how much makes you have
Speaker 2: to do with Dragon Age one and two. So I
Speaker 2: can see this not doing it or you know, going
Speaker 2: like no, we're good because lads with Masters Effect they're
Speaker 2: all like the Unreal Engine, so yeah, cares well.
Speaker 1: And then they also like poureded it over to like
Speaker 1: an external studio to do most of the work, whereas
Speaker 1: right there was some people at Bow were actually having
Speaker 1: to work on this, and then it wasn't that many,
Speaker 1: but it was some. And then it's like again the
Speaker 1: whole essentially having to remake origins. Yeah, and then you're
Speaker 1: putting it in with a remaster of one and two
Speaker 1: or even like essentially having any makes of those games.
Speaker 2: Origins there's one.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: But but like even like dragon Age, like as a franchise,
Speaker 2: dragon Age never particularly sold that well. Maybe Inquisition did,
Speaker 2: but Origins itself only sold like four million copies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Inquisition sold really well, but that was also like
Speaker 1: a really bad year in games.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so yeah, I can see them E eight
Speaker 2: has gone now we're good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I do think it probably would have helped them
Speaker 1: with dragon Age Villguard, where you learn a lot more
Speaker 1: about what makes dragon Age dragon Age, and but.
Speaker 2: Like that's that's put in the card before the horse
Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, I just had been made before
Speaker 2: vail Guard came out, or you know, it would have
Speaker 2: like between vail Guard and Inquisition, there's a ten year gap,
Speaker 2: not ten years, sorry, there's like a what eight or
Speaker 2: not like seven or eight year gap? A low people
Speaker 2: don't forget about dragon Age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean also I think it was more
Speaker 1: about like most of the people that are at by
Speaker 1: where at this point are not the folks that were
Speaker 1: there making those oh yeah, early dragon Age games, so
Speaker 1: they don't you know, the idea could be that, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't really know what makes a dragon Age game,
Speaker 1: so I kind of understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it was a tenure gap between Inquisition and
Speaker 2: Vail Guard. And yeah, judging, I don't think you played
Speaker 2: vail Guard much. But no, I did and YenS did,
Speaker 2: and we can both attest that it wasn't the same
Speaker 2: people who made the earlier dragon Age games.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that doesn't sound great.
Speaker 2: Right, So I even even if e A somehow okayed this,
Speaker 2: I I don't think it would have panned out that
Speaker 2: well because I just don't think that BioWare is capable
Speaker 2: as a studio anymore, like do it correctly. They needed
Speaker 2: to form it out again, which would have cost them
Speaker 2: even more money.
Speaker 1: So I agree on that.
Speaker 2: But I liked I liked Inquisition quite a bit. I
Speaker 2: can don't like Dragon Age one or two that much,
Speaker 2: but the third one I like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people like thing Position after that.
Speaker 2: Actually, most people like the first one, you know, that's
Speaker 2: what YenS is all like, Oh, the Heirs one's only
Speaker 2: the only true true game in the series.
Speaker 1: Gotta love that all right then, But hey, Embracer did
Speaker 1: a night a cool thing once. Actually, feels like they
Speaker 1: invested in something after they've had all these this tumultuous
Speaker 1: time of like layoffs and closing studios and spinning off
Speaker 1: studios and all this stuff. They brought back Red Octane
Speaker 1: even though now it's called Red Octane Games and part
Speaker 1: of you know, Embracer. I don't know which group it
Speaker 1: is that they're with, but they're a small studio that's
Speaker 1: looking at making a rhythm game, a new one at that.
Speaker 1: Of course, they were the ones that were instrumental in
Speaker 1: making Guitar Hero and DJ Hero. Obviously Harmonics also had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with that as well, and they're
Speaker 1: part of the Free Mode group. I'm sorry if people
Speaker 1: even know what any of these groups actually. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like whatever, But they're not trying to make Guitar Hero,
Speaker 1: it's the whole point. They're just trying to make their
Speaker 1: own like rhythm game. But it is going to have uh,
Speaker 1: they are going to try to go and get license music, supposedly,
Speaker 1: and they said that they still have contacts there. Obviously
Speaker 1: they don't have the.
Speaker 2: That would help, and they.
Speaker 1: Said they're still going to approach the music the same
Speaker 1: way like go and try to get you know, the
Speaker 1: parts and all that stuff that they normally do and
Speaker 1: the split parts and try to get that all of work.
Speaker 1: So now that you have those, you know guitar, the
Speaker 1: guitars that have come back right between.
Speaker 2: The I'm not sure if like those new guitars actually
Speaker 2: have shipped yet or not. I know YenS is waiting
Speaker 2: for his, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Well, the one that works at the fortnite festival, those work.
Speaker 1: Those are out there. I don't know about the the
Speaker 1: like Remade Less Falls or whatever that hero if those
Speaker 1: are out or not.
Speaker 2: But what doesn't one for rock band? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yes, those are for a fortnight festival and it does
Speaker 1: work a rock band for yeah, So we'll see. You know,
Speaker 1: now that those are available to people, it would be
Speaker 1: interesting to see if Red Octane can go out and
Speaker 1: make this. I think it'd be cool. The problem is
Speaker 1: that they're an audience for it outside of people like
Speaker 1: me that live in that nostalgia that as you can
Speaker 1: see if you watch the video version. In the background,
Speaker 1: I have my rock band guitars sitting there around my shelf,
Speaker 1: even though I can't use them because my converter bro right,
Speaker 1: but still they're there, right, you know. That's The thing
Speaker 1: is like generation the generations behind us have become even
Speaker 1: more anti social. So this is a very social game.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that it's gonna do the It's
Speaker 1: definitely not gonna do the bonkers numbers that you know
Speaker 1: it did back in the day. But can you sustain
Speaker 1: a niche audience like that? And how much is embracer?
Speaker 1: Were they gonna invest in all that because you know
Speaker 1: they're not epic.
Speaker 2: Well, they answered to your first question is no, right,
Speaker 2: because they tried already bring back Guitar Hero and rock
Speaker 2: Band and it didn't do go well.
Speaker 1: So to be fair, the Guitar Hero once sucked because
Speaker 1: like nobody wanted to have the songs tied to that
Speaker 1: streaming service. And then they made a big deal about that.
Speaker 1: I mean that you say it wasn't great.
Speaker 2: You say that, but you also have like eight hundred
Speaker 2: Rock Band songs, right, but I have. It's literally like
Speaker 2: think of it like as game pass for a Guitar Hero.
Speaker 1: I know, but that was one of the things against it.
Speaker 1: Side fi. I think also like you wouldn't like the
Speaker 1: controller and the guitar thing, and the story mode was
Speaker 1: like overblown. They tried to make a big deal about it,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't this the thing that they made it
Speaker 1: out to be as well, So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that weren't. And then also again, like you said,
Speaker 1: it just didn't catch on, right, They thought that it
Speaker 1: was gonna bring a comeback, and it didn't catch on.
Speaker 1: I think rock Band four just had rock Band four
Speaker 1: was a classic you you put it out missing stuff,
Speaker 1: and you didn't have a way for people to uh
Speaker 1: it was it. They didn't make the converter available enough
Speaker 1: for so then a lot of the people that might
Speaker 1: have brought came into it later that thought, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I still have these guitars laying around or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then oh I can't use them because you literally cannot
Speaker 1: buy the converter, right And it's like nice way to
Speaker 1: shoot yourself on the foot to have this have any
Speaker 1: kind of length outside of you having you know, DLC
Speaker 1: for which, to be fair to them, they did all
Speaker 1: the work to make the old DLC come in and
Speaker 1: work with the Series X and all that stuff like
Speaker 1: and and the PlayStation five and like a lot of
Speaker 1: credit to them to get all that stuff going when
Speaker 1: by a large part of that they were independent, you know,
Speaker 1: epic didn't own them until basically at the end, and
Speaker 1: that's when they ended DLC because at that point Carmonyx
Speaker 1: was just doing stuff for Fortnite and then they made
Speaker 1: the Fortnite Festival thing or whatever. But we'll see what
Speaker 1: comes out of this. I just think it's cool that
Speaker 1: they exist and they're doing something, and that's awesome that,
Speaker 1: you know, Embracer brought him in.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised you have the right acting name
Speaker 2: because they didn't know that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think they it was some kind of they did
Speaker 1: a lawsuit with didn't they do a lawsuit with ACT
Speaker 1: Division or whatever to get the name back?
Speaker 2: I got at one point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, we talked about Ubisoft in their Assassa's
Speaker 1: screen show. They are now also doing a far Cry
Speaker 1: show and it's in the works. Uh, Rob Mack is
Speaker 1: gonna star. He officially changed his name to Rob Mac.
Speaker 1: It's no longer Rob McElhenny because apparently everybody everybody says
Speaker 1: his name wrong, right, so he just changed. I also
Speaker 1: thought it was weird. I was like, oh, that was real.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke when I.
Speaker 2: Saw it named like Rob Big Mac.
Speaker 1: That would have been hilarious. Actually that would have that
Speaker 1: would have worked with the you know, the always sunny thing.
Speaker 1: But hey, what do you think the show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the show is like gonna be run by Noah Hawley.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He did that Fargo show and he's doing an Alien
Speaker 2: Earth show that's premier in this week. I think is
Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, I've heard different season the Fargo has
Speaker 2: varying levels of quality.
Speaker 1: Black season one is great and then it kind of
Speaker 1: tails off.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He also did the Legion show, which I really like
Speaker 2: back in the day. Yeah, I don't know. I I
Speaker 2: don't think it will happened. I mean no, I believe
Speaker 2: it's true, like once actually film or you know, footage
Speaker 2: of Goose or a trailer, you know, just you have
Speaker 2: to be so skeptical nowadays at this crap. It could
Speaker 2: be interesting and like them going into an anthology show
Speaker 2: might be fun, especially if they finally hit season three
Speaker 2: and to get h you know, Michael Manda Mando back
Speaker 2: is us from Parker I three.
Speaker 1: Oh you think trying to make it after the games?
Speaker 2: Well one and two doesn't matter because one and two
Speaker 2: basically have no plot, you know, basically, like, hey, I
Speaker 2: think I don't even know that the plot in one
Speaker 2: personally because like back then, they didn't they didn't really
Speaker 2: care about story. All I remember about two's plot is
Speaker 2: you have ah not anthrax, but you have like some
Speaker 2: I think it's malaria to keep taking medication for it.
Speaker 2: That's all I remember about two. But at least like
Speaker 2: once you get to three, that actually had like a story.
Speaker 2: So sure just have you know, yeah, I have Rob
Speaker 2: MacB like the white guy in the jungle hunting, hunting
Speaker 2: animals and making wallets out of their corpses and then
Speaker 2: taking down whatever evil government or you know, evil government.
Speaker 2: There isn't the in the country, right, and the second
Speaker 2: season can start any Divito.
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's always trying to get Danny DeVito for something.
Speaker 2: And everyone loves them. May it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think like far Cray could work. It can work
Speaker 2: because they're just so little there, you know right that
Speaker 2: like you it's it's basically a name and like having
Speaker 2: good like fire tech or fire shit going on, like
Speaker 2: I like I said, I think until you hit like
Speaker 2: season like if they do, if they made it to
Speaker 2: a season three, like I would want season three to
Speaker 2: be a patterned after that game specifically, right, But then
Speaker 2: you can stop there because far Cry for the rest
Speaker 2: of them are not good.
Speaker 1: Oh, some people like Farkraft four. I think five kind.
Speaker 2: Of four is fine. Yeah, I guess Farcraft five were
Speaker 2: sort of really nose dive and then Farrit six. No
Speaker 2: one cared.
Speaker 1: About Farcraft six. Is interesting because like, man, I was
Speaker 1: really down with that story and then it's like nope.
Speaker 2: And then you realized that he's on Carl is only
Speaker 2: in it for like six minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I was kind of like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a vait and switch. Man, He's hardly in this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn like to start and then like at the
Speaker 2: end and that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some sad duws. I guess here to end this.
Speaker 1: Uh Bithel Games which has made some games that Mark likes.
Speaker 1: They make the solitaire games you like.
Speaker 2: Right, they made one the Solitary Conspiracy, all right.
Speaker 1: And of course uh Bithel game is also known for
Speaker 1: Thomas was Alone. I was kind of an indie Darling
Speaker 1: Tron Catalyst and john wick X which john wick hecks
Speaker 1: like recently went offline.
Speaker 2: There the lost lost the rights to the name or whatever.
Speaker 1: So and unfortunately, because they couldn't get a big project
Speaker 1: his eleven employees were made a redundant yeah, which is
Speaker 1: the majority of the full time staff and studio. It sucks,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he he said that he had
Speaker 1: an incredible team and that you know, he's hoping anybody
Speaker 1: that work there can find work soon. That sucks to see,
Speaker 1: even the really really small ones. That's a good effect
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the problem with that company or
Speaker 2: you know, what they started to do is it's almost
Speaker 2: like what they do with a telltale, like if you
Speaker 2: only go after licensed stuff, yeah, and then licenses dry
Speaker 2: up or you know, there's not a huge demand for
Speaker 2: that stuff, Like what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1: Right exactly? Making your own like individual thing without the
Speaker 1: license is gonna be difficult people to care about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not to say that that can't work,
Speaker 2: like but I would say, I mean, they're known for
Speaker 2: Thomas was alone, more than tron Catalyst, which you just
Speaker 2: came out a few months ago. So i'd say, go
Speaker 2: for you know, making your own stuff, and you have
Speaker 2: to self fund it, go that route or get you know,
Speaker 2: get some investors whatever. But right stuff out there.
Speaker 1: It is it's definitely too But all right, I guess
Speaker 1: we will end the show as we always do here
Speaker 1: talking about the games they're gonna come out, and this
Speaker 1: week ahead it's already been out for the people that
Speaker 1: you know, buy the extra special edition or whatever. But
Speaker 1: Madden NFL twenty six right out right now you can
Speaker 1: go play that finally for the people that are waiting
Speaker 1: on that as we head towards the NFL season beginning
Speaker 1: with preseason had their first week a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Send you a Saga help a two enhanced edition coming
Speaker 1: to PS five. Yeah, so we'll see if that has
Speaker 1: any kind of legs on PS five themselves, decently or not,
Speaker 1: you know, after all the not but okay, probably not.
Speaker 1: I think it'll sell decently.
Speaker 2: But I think cannot like, let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: No, it's not going to do that, definitely not. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see, is it even gonna touch like it not?
Speaker 1: Probably not even gonna touch what Clayers. But either if
Speaker 1: it sells a million, I think they should be kind
Speaker 1: of happy.
Speaker 2: Thank God for that, I really.
Speaker 1: Because I imagine that there's a lot less to bought it
Speaker 1: on Xbox and see, especially after no One. But in
Speaker 1: Xbox it also has really bad word of mouth, which
Speaker 1: didn't help. The game was really was short and it
Speaker 1: made much more even more cinematic than the first game,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know they changed the combat a bit, so, right,
Speaker 1: not that enthused about it. Dragon Dragon Drive coming out
Speaker 1: for the Switch. That's the big switch for Switch to
Speaker 1: release after this month.
Speaker 2: I act earlier today and they actually had Twitched shoes
Speaker 2: for sale and I was like, shot, Like they had
Speaker 2: like I think they had at least four of each,
Speaker 2: maybe five. I was like, wow, you actually have them.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's good. The first time you've seen him out
Speaker 1: in the world. Right, Yeah, that's cool. That's good that
Speaker 1: you finally saw them. You know that they exist outside of.
Speaker 3: The Amazon Yeah, uh, there's no Football Manager of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five, but you can't get the original version of Football.
Speaker 1: Star Manager on PC on the fourteenth, and also you
Speaker 1: get Teenage Music and Ninja Turtles Tactical Takedown, which strangeley
Speaker 1: is not coming to PlayStation five only switching Xbox. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like a first, we haven't we've seen it in
Speaker 1: a while. And then Off, which is like a remaster
Speaker 1: of the an old NESRPG that was sort of like
Speaker 1: the inspired Undertail. That's gonna be on switching PC, so
Speaker 1: I might check it out if it uh, if there's
Speaker 1: some some good reviews. Yeah, so that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: the majority of this week. Next week we start getting
Speaker 1: some some cool stuff and then obviously the end of
Speaker 1: the month is when we get some of the games
Speaker 1: he will been waiting on. Right, So, but all right,
Speaker 1: there's not anything else you want to talk about here.
Speaker 1: I guess that we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 2: Well, well, you didn't about last week because we were
Speaker 2: I kind of pressed for time, but we both saw it.
Speaker 2: Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, Yeah, go ahead, I guess we can.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it here.
Speaker 2: I was sign yeah, did you see Superman?
Speaker 1: Also, I have not seen it yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think Fantastic four is like eight. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say it's a better movie. It's a slightly
Speaker 2: more cohesive movie. That's because it's like a lot simpler.
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of moving parts in Superman and
Speaker 2: it gets overburdened by that. But it's like a more
Speaker 2: ambitious movie.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take away. Yeah, I've heard a lot of
Speaker 1: people say that it's like a lot of stuff going
Speaker 1: on right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just track like they have so many characters.
Speaker 2: I mean so many characters that like, you know, some
Speaker 2: people better to get like like a line in basically,
Speaker 2: and then they're like kind of like castaway or you know,
Speaker 2: just like a background character like Perry White. It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I like, uh, I like this actor quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Why isn't he in here? Why is he saying shit?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had that fantastic for a fine Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you think?
Speaker 1: I liked it a lot. I wouldly not a very
Speaker 1: high bar to clear to be the best fantastic for movie.
Speaker 2: And man that nineteen ninety one It's pretty all right.
Speaker 1: Didn't come out. Yeah, No, I thought it was good.
Speaker 1: It was I like the cast. Vanessa Curvey is probably
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a entire movie, right.
Speaker 1: I really liked her in it. I thought everybody else
Speaker 1: was was good.
Speaker 4: Uh it's it's it's a fine Like it felt like
Speaker 4: we went back to uh like first phase Marble Like
Speaker 4: it's kind of something fine.
Speaker 2: It was a kind of perfunctory, but also like considering
Speaker 2: Marbles track record of the past few years, it's not
Speaker 2: a bad thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, go, we're we're heading back into the
Speaker 1: right direction right between Thunderbolts in this movie, right, we're
Speaker 1: we're heading back into like, Okay, these are good, fundamental movies.
Speaker 1: They are not oh my god, you need to go
Speaker 1: out and see this right now or whatever, but they're
Speaker 1: worth watching. Honestly. Uh, if I hadn't gone on the
Speaker 1: day that the movie to you costs five dollars, I
Speaker 1: might have been a little bit upset because both everybody
Speaker 1: fell asleep and sent me.
Speaker 2: So that's good. Yeah, little endorsement right there.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, she did not They like, they liked Thunderbolts
Speaker 1: a lot, but they did not like this movie at
Speaker 1: all because there's not the I do think like they
Speaker 1: were missing more of the comedy. They were missing more
Speaker 1: of the Johnny and uh than messing around with each other.
Speaker 2: And I actually didn't mind that because I don't need
Speaker 2: every Marvel movie to sound the same. Or it had
Speaker 2: the energy. Yeah, like the fact Johnny did crack a
Speaker 2: few jokes, but Ben was pretty straight laced or you know,
Speaker 2: he's just kind of there. Yeah. Yeah, they were like
Speaker 2: constantly equipping. I think it would have would have dredged
Speaker 2: done a little.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think they needed to constantly quip
Speaker 1: but I did like the interactions between Read and There's
Speaker 1: a Woman. They did great too, uh like kind of
Speaker 1: brought in that like a little bit bite to the
Speaker 1: relationship thing and then that whole part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he saw like and he thought it was okay.
Speaker 2: I think he gave it like a six, maybe a seven.
Speaker 2: But he didn't like the lactice at all. Like he
Speaker 2: was just like, I don't understand his motivation. I was like,
Speaker 2: he eats, he doesn't need motive, Like what motivation? Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: he either wants to eat the world or like corrupt
Speaker 2: the kid, like that's all that is there.
Speaker 1: Well, he's trying to get the kid so that he's
Speaker 1: kind of replaced him, and also kind of like so
Speaker 1: he's not alone time.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah yeah, So you don't need more motivation than that.
Speaker 2: I mean you can have that, sure, but like I
Speaker 2: don't need some ten minute long you know, prologue orlass.
Speaker 1: Yeah you definitely. Yeah, thank god they did not spend
Speaker 1: telling me the whole history of Galactus or whatever. This
Speaker 1: definitely felt like, Okay, if you really wanted to know
Speaker 1: about these characters, reading the comic books would have done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty years of history, go crack up in a
Speaker 2: fantastic for one online read it or you know.
Speaker 1: Marvel actually has like a YouTube video like recap of
Speaker 1: the whole.
Speaker 2: Right thing too.
Speaker 1: It's like an hour and a half if you want
Speaker 1: to really go dive into that.
Speaker 2: But and the best part of that movie is more Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Man was funny. Agree. Uh the music was too.
Speaker 2: Oh okay. I so Yen's liked the music, like the
Speaker 2: soundtrack quite a bit. I yeah, fantas ask for a
Speaker 2: choir song got like for a while. Yeah, they played
Speaker 2: it in the trailers constantly, So I didn't like that.
Speaker 2: But the one song I hated it I assume structed
Speaker 2: through the credits. Yeah, I did play a song right
Speaker 2: at the end of the credits that is like some Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought of you Joan Baia this piece of shit
Speaker 2: like cover because you wore me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, okay, I kind of see
Speaker 1: what Mark's talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 1: Also, I kind of felt like, okay, I really could
Speaker 1: have just not waited to the credits for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also like the reason I don't like that
Speaker 2: song also is like it's that song is like a
Speaker 2: hippie song basically, and it's like there's no hippies at
Speaker 2: all in this movie.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's this based in the sixties, I guess.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, but I took a tech like a like
Speaker 2: futuristic retro future. Yeah, like they wouldn't have to sixties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't tolerate hippies at all. There was running up
Speaker 2: and shot them. And I haven't watched it all. I
Speaker 2: don't think you care at all her. But they did
Speaker 2: bring Twists Metals back as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm gonna probably start I might watch some
Speaker 1: of that tomorrow. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I watched like the first five minutes of a new
Speaker 2: episode and I was all right, like, I'll get back
Speaker 2: to this later. But then I heard someone talking about
Speaker 2: it at a game store like a few days ago,
Speaker 2: like and they were like, oh, I know, I heard
Speaker 2: the bringing Cliss and Metal back and I didn't say it,
Speaker 2: but I was just thinking, like it's been back for
Speaker 2: two weeks, like no one cared, like.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's uh. I don't know if I'll probably
Speaker 1: just wait till Superman gets on Max or yeah whatever
Speaker 1: at this point, I don't know unless they decide that
Speaker 1: they they if I'll see if maybe they want to
Speaker 1: go check it out. Tomorrow, but I don't think so
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna go see Nobody to next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah I didn't. I'm not seeing it in the theater.
Speaker 2: But I pre ordered the weapons like four K steel book.
Speaker 1: So oh, I gotta watch that with the Naya that
Speaker 1: comes out. Sure. But yeah, I just I've been watching
Speaker 1: some like documentaries on stuff that I find on HBO
Speaker 1: Max I get bored on or not bored, but like
Speaker 1: just I don't have my gaming stuff when I go
Speaker 1: to my girlfriend's house, so right, I'm just find things
Speaker 1: to watch and that kind of entertains me while she's
Speaker 1: gardening or you know whatever, when she doesn't when she's
Speaker 1: doing other stuff. So yeah, uh, there's one that was
Speaker 1: like the murder in Boston, which was really well done.
Speaker 1: I gout race relations in Boston along with this court
Speaker 1: case is going on, so yeah, and then I've been
Speaker 1: watching those. They have a new one that has two
Speaker 1: episodes now, the Yogurt Shop murders and in Austin. H
Speaker 1: Being from Texas, I remember hearing about that like as
Speaker 1: I got older. Obviously I was like three when right,
Speaker 1: like three when they happened, but as I got older,
Speaker 1: even living in Dallas. You kind of heard about it sometimes,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of cool to have the story background
Speaker 1: to it. But yeah, of course soccer is back now,
Speaker 1: so that's been my thing, and then football is on
Speaker 1: you back soon, so yeah, we'll have plenty of things.
Speaker 2: You start the sports podcast yet again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll drive my girlfriend crazy with oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the damn Cowboys on. Don't start screaming
Speaker 1: to the tv, right, But all right, thank you everybody
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Speaker 2: Later