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<v Speaker 1>My Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Monday, Afterearon in

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<v Speaker 1>the Tri State temperashire close to fifty degrees today. Last

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<v Speaker 1>week of golf o was terrible, but good news has

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<v Speaker 1>come from Raveke Ramaswami. He's announcing sometime later this afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be a candidate for governor in

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio. And I've watched him do many national

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<v Speaker 1>interviews in which he says, well, I have a big

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<v Speaker 1>announcement on the twenty fourth of February. The twenty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of February is here. And Vivake Ramaswami, Springfield Township resident

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<v Speaker 1>for many years and graduate of Sandex High School, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Viveke, what is your

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<v Speaker 1>announcement this Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'll be announcing later today that I'm running to be.

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<v Speaker 3>The next governor of Ohio. Billy in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in Columbus now it's where we raise our

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<v Speaker 2>two sons. I'm excited to pass the American dream on

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<v Speaker 2>to the next generation. And President Trump he's making our

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<v Speaker 2>country great and reviving our confidence in a America.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to be reviving our confidence in Ohio, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the kind of governor we need.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, at this point, many have said, what about Doge.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Elon musk are launched it, and you left

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<v Speaker 1>Washington to come back to Ohio to run for governor.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Ohio need a Doge type examination of its budget?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely needs efficiency at every level. I'm proud and was

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<v Speaker 4>honored to help get DOJE off the ground for those

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<v Speaker 4>first two months. And what became clear to Elon and

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<v Speaker 4>myself and President Trump is that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>programs that sit at the federal level are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be kicked down to the states and to the people,

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<v Speaker 4>from education to healthcare. And what we need is governors

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<v Speaker 4>who are then willing to actually catch the pass that's

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<v Speaker 4>been thrown from President Trump. And so that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking to do as governor, is to take that mentality

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<v Speaker 4>of harnessing efficiency, do it to put money in the

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<v Speaker 4>pockets of every Ohio. I want to Hio it to

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<v Speaker 4>be the state of economic excellence. I want to hire

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<v Speaker 4>to be the state of educational life excellence. Would I

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<v Speaker 4>bring down the property tax burden immediately in this state?

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<v Speaker 4>Put money back in the pockets of Ohioans cut the

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<v Speaker 4>red tape and regulation and bureaucratic overreach, so we can

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<v Speaker 4>be the state of energy dominance, manufacturing dominance, AI dominance,

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<v Speaker 4>the state where our kids are actually able to live

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<v Speaker 4>the American dream that seems out of reach for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do think getting a lot of the waste

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<v Speaker 4>and fraud and abuse out of the system and putting

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<v Speaker 4>that money back in the pockets of Ohioans is an

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<v Speaker 4>important step to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think, Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wouldn't note that there's been fourteen or

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen states that have done away completely with the income

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<v Speaker 1>tax state income tax. See Ohioans have about a three

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent at the top rate. I noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>in Indiana, even Democrats voted into the state of Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>next door to eliminate the Indiana state income tax. Would

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<v Speaker 1>your plan be also to eliminate over time the state

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<v Speaker 1>income tax or keep it at a low rate.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're taking the line straight out of my speech

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<v Speaker 4>later today, Billy, But yes, we need to we need

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<v Speaker 4>to become a zero income tax state to stay competitive.

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<v Speaker 4>You got people deserve to keep what they earn. And

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<v Speaker 4>as nine other states have already done it, and many

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<v Speaker 4>more are now on a path to do in it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a requirement for Ohio to be

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<v Speaker 4>competitive as well, and it goes back to them being

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<v Speaker 4>transparent about those expenditures. I also want to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that every state expenditure, every local county, township expenditure is

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<v Speaker 4>publicly visible, is publicly on a ledger for every Ohioan

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<v Speaker 4>to see. And that is going to bring a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot of sunlight to a lot of wasteful spending. I

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<v Speaker 4>want us to be the best state in the country

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<v Speaker 4>to be an entrepreneur, to start and grow a new business.

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<v Speaker 4>As you know, I'm not a politician, I'm an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 4>who has lived the American dream. I want every Ohioan

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to do the same thing. And so yes,

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<v Speaker 4>zero income tax state. Bring down the property tax burden,

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<v Speaker 4>spread and flash and burn every iota of waste, fraud, abuse,

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<v Speaker 3>Or government overreach.

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<v Speaker 4>Let police officers and sheriffs actually do their jobs with

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<v Speaker 4>the proper training needed to do it well. Bring back

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<v Speaker 4>the mental health institutions that actually all otherwise would cause

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<v Speaker 4>our jails to be overrun. All of these save money,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're also about improving effectiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you touch a sensitive point because when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Attorney General's office, I had commitment hearings

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<v Speaker 1>frequently at long View State Mental Hospital, which was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Roselawn area, and I can't there was about five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred to one thousand people locked into that facility that

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<v Speaker 1>are now on the streets homeless and mental health is

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue with many families and Cincinnati the largest

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<v Speaker 1>mental mental health facility is the Hamlet County Justice Center.

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<v Speaker 1>People every county in Ohio as a justice center or

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<v Speaker 1>a jail packed with insane individuals that need mental health services,

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol services, they have drug addicted. That's why we have

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<v Speaker 1>ten cities all over Cincinnati, which is awful.

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<v Speaker 5>And so are you saying that you want to have like.

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<v Speaker 1>State mental hospital maybe in five or six in the

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<v Speaker 1>state that provide services to those that are mentally ill

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<v Speaker 1>like the old system we had before the movie One

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<v Speaker 1>Flew Over the Cuckoos Nast with Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 5>You were too young to remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>But once that movie happened in the nineteen eighties, everything

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<v Speaker 1>changed in America, I think, and every mental hospital was

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<v Speaker 1>cruel and vicious to it to its residents, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is not the case. Longview was a good facility that

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<v Speaker 1>kept those with mental health needs off the streets.

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<v Speaker 5>So what is your plan for mental health?

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly it, Billiant. This is a controversial issue with

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<v Speaker 4>some on the left, but I think we require a

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<v Speaker 4>governor who has the courage to confront it. Right now,

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<v Speaker 4>the number one source of psychiatric care in the state

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<v Speaker 4>is actually our jails, our prisons. That's unacceptable. Our sheriffs

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<v Speaker 4>will tell you the same thing. Our jails are overrun

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<v Speaker 4>by people who should be in psychiatric institutions, not in jails,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's causing more crime and actually more poverty.

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<v Speaker 3>Even in the cities.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, the one who flew over the cuckous FtF.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen the movie, by the way, But a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of that was a type of marketing to get

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<v Speaker 4>people out of these psychiatric institutions where frankly, the pharmaceutical

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<v Speaker 4>companies came out with their first generation of anti psychotic drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>That was one of the drives to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>say there were abuses in the old system, and were

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<v Speaker 4>there some abuses?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely there were, and are we going to correct for those?

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<v Speaker 4>We should, We should respect the dignity the basic dignity

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<v Speaker 4>of every human and every American. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it is compassion to then put somebody in jail and

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<v Speaker 4>then let them out, and because they're mentally insane, are

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<v Speaker 4>actually committing more crimes. That's not compassion. That is cruelty

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<v Speaker 4>to everyone involved. And so, yes, it is a touchy subject,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think we need to bring back psychiatric

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<v Speaker 4>care through the psychiatric institutions that we used to have.

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<v Speaker 3>And Billie, this is the personal issue for me.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was a geriatric psychiatrist who treated patients often

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<v Speaker 4>with PTSD. She worked in the VA down in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do believe that we know the truth. We

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<v Speaker 4>just need a leader who stands for that truth. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to help make every Ohio and better,

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<v Speaker 4>even those who are getting the care that they're not

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<v Speaker 4>getting today. And I hope that unites frankly Republicans and

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats once we have the courage to explain it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a functional mental health facility like the old

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<v Speaker 1>Longview State Mental Hospital. We need it badly because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not kind to someone to live on the streets of

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati or Columbus. Secondly, what about the issue of sanctuary cities.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati is a sanctuary city and the mayor here f

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Pirrival, has said that we are a sanctuary city.

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<v Speaker 1>And the police union is fighting with the mayor, saying

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Coober or a sergeant Erey, you know what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>We want ICE partnerships, we want FBI partnerships. What can

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<v Speaker 1>you do as governor to improve that situation about sanctuary cities?

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<v Speaker 4>So, look, that's going to end on my watch. We're

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<v Speaker 4>a nation founded on the rule of law, Billy, and

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<v Speaker 4>I say this as the kid of legal immigrants to

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<v Speaker 4>this country. That means your first act of entering this

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<v Speaker 4>country cannot break the law.

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<v Speaker 3>That is who who we are as Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it is wrong when governments, including at

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<v Speaker 4>the city level, including at the township level, are sponsoring

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<v Speaker 4>the violation of that rule of law. There will be

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<v Speaker 4>no sanctuary cities in Ohio on my watch. And how

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<v Speaker 4>am I going to take this to the next level.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called two eighty seven G. It's a provision in

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<v Speaker 4>the law that actually allows local law enforcement to partner

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<v Speaker 4>with ICE to be able to remove illegal immigrants. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's essential, it's essential to carry out President Trump's

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<v Speaker 4>vision there's only several thousand ICE agents at the federal level.

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<v Speaker 4>We need local law enforcement to actually help get that

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<v Speaker 4>job done. And again, I want to do this in

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<v Speaker 4>a way that is compassionate to every Ohioan, but we're

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<v Speaker 4>not being compassionate to our own citizens, to our own

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<v Speaker 4>actual legal residents of this state if our cities are

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<v Speaker 4>overrun with the effects of mass illegal immigration as well.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think I'm uniquely suited to deliver that

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<v Speaker 4>message as the kid of proud sons of legal immigrants

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<v Speaker 4>to the country where nation founded on the rule of law,

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<v Speaker 4>and Ohio is going to be a state that leads

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<v Speaker 4>the way in enforcing the rule of law because that's

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<v Speaker 4>part of our national identity, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of who we are.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do believe that most islands are on the

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<v Speaker 4>same side of this issue. We're opposed to illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of the solution is we have to end the

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<v Speaker 4>incentives to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be here illegally in the first place.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I believe the sanctuary cities need to

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<v Speaker 4>end out with the sanctuary cities and in with two

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<v Speaker 4>to eighty seven g to be able to leverage our

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<v Speaker 4>local law enforcement with the proper training to do what

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<v Speaker 4>so many of them want to do, which is to

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<v Speaker 4>serve our state and serve our country.

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<v Speaker 5>Two or three other quick questions.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump signed two or three days ago an EO

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<v Speaker 1>and executive order that says that no more federal grants

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<v Speaker 1>to shall we say service organizations to house and clothe

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<v Speaker 1>and feed illegal migrants. Also is going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Medicaid payments to those that are here illegally. What

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<v Speaker 1>can a governor do to grossly discourage social welfare agencies

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<v Speaker 1>in the private sector receiving millions of dollars in moneys

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<v Speaker 1>from the taxpayer to house, clothed, and feed of legal

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<v Speaker 1>migrants shouldn't be in the first place. Can you issue

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<v Speaker 1>an executive order from Columbus as the governor saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the state will not pay the expenses of illegals in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Ohio and won't screen it through these

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<v Speaker 1>social service agencies.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, But we're going to go a lot further than that, Billy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when we're talking about saving taxpayer money right

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<v Speaker 4>here in Ohio, you've got to spend your taxpayers money

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<v Speaker 4>as though it's your own money. And that's not happening today.

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<v Speaker 4>Creating the incentives for people to break the rule of

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<v Speaker 4>law is going to coust people to break the rule

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<v Speaker 4>of law even more. And I'm not going to do

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<v Speaker 4>that as governor. I refuse to stand by and just

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<v Speaker 3>But we're also.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to go further in even saving money in other ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only are we going to end every last penny

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<v Speaker 4>going to support illegal immigration. That's of course going to end.

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<v Speaker 4>That's about the rule of law. Now let's talk about

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<v Speaker 4>saving money for Ohioans. We're also going to reattach work

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<v Speaker 4>requirements to medicaid and welfare. Even for people who are

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<v Speaker 4>least have work requirements attached to that form of government aid.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the real point is it's not compassion to

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<v Speaker 3>That's not compassion. That is cruelty.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what we require is Ohio has been a

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<v Speaker 3>No longer.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're able body between the ages of eighteen and

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<v Speaker 4>fifty four, you should be able, if you don't have kids,

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<v Speaker 4>to seek a job for at least twenty hours a week.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good for the country. It's good for our state,

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<v Speaker 4>it's good for our budget, but it's also really even

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<v Speaker 4>good for the very Americans who are on the receiving

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<v Speaker 4>end of it, because it provides them a path to

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<v Speaker 4>independence and self sustenance. And that's what we want for

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<v Speaker 4>our fellow brothers and sisters in this country. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way I'm looking at it as the next governor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, lastly, there's a big debate right now in Columbus

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<v Speaker 1>that may be resolved when you get there. The primary

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<v Speaker 1>is about a little over a year away, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is marijuana. We voted in Ohio fifty eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>us and I don't smoke pot, never have, never will,

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<v Speaker 1>doubt I ever will.

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<v Speaker 5>I won't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But nonetheless, fifty eight percent of us said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>recreational marijuana sales is a good thing. We now have

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<v Speaker 1>our good Governor, Mike DeWine wanting to double the tax,

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<v Speaker 1>double the cut into Columbus from ten percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>sale to twenty percent, and then distribute that money all

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<v Speaker 1>over Ohio through a general fund. It's got the cities

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<v Speaker 1>and the townships all worked up because they were promised

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<v Speaker 1>three point six percent and they established these dispensaries, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the people have voted, and now the lawmakers want

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<v Speaker 1>to change the marijuana tax to double the take from

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Ohio. You may know Marijuana Control Commission

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio says that in twenty twenty five, there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a billion dollars in sales of legal recreational

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<v Speaker 1>marijuana that comes out of the pocket some drug dealers.

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<v Speaker 1>The drug dealers this year are not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>one billion dollars in illegal marijuana sales because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>pot of gold there. The state wants to double its

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<v Speaker 1>take from one hundred million dollars in taxes up to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred million dollars in taxes, which will encourage high prices,

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<v Speaker 1>which will drive marijuana users back into the dark market.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a proxial issue at this point and

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<v Speaker 1>may be resolved by the time you get to be

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<v Speaker 1>the governor, but you could change it if Ohio lawmakers

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<v Speaker 1>double the tax on marijuana, encouraging users to go back

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<v Speaker 1>into the dark market. Just philosophically, where do you stand

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<v Speaker 4>Well, look, I'll start with the first principle is that

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<v Speaker 4>this is an issue where we can't have a conflict

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<v Speaker 4>between the state law and the federal law. I go

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<v Speaker 4>back to that same principle I said with respect to

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<v Speaker 4>illegal limitigation. We're a nation founded on the rule of law.

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<v Speaker 4>That is who we are. And so I think this

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<v Speaker 4>business of well is technically illegal federally, but it's quasi

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<v Speaker 4>legal in this state. Just speaking as an American looking

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<v Speaker 4>at the whole country as a whole, that doesn't help

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<v Speaker 4>our culture of the rule of law in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>So the conflict between the federal and the state level

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<v Speaker 4>needs to end. Now let's get to to other deeper

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<v Speaker 4>issues on this. What is the question of medical choice

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<v Speaker 4>for medicinal purposes. I generally believe that there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of therapies that need to be able to be

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<v Speaker 4>available for mental health purposes, for the treatment you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you think non addictive options and the opioid epidemic.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of what drove that.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of what we need is to bring down the

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<v Speaker 4>barriers to medicinal uses of things that are able to

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<v Speaker 4>help people. But that's different from a deeper problem of addiction.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think this is such a deep problem in

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<v Speaker 4>something we have not yet taken seriously in addressing depression, anxiety,

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<v Speaker 4>sentinel suicide. These numbers are all up and what is that?

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<v Speaker 4>In our state really and in our country. It is

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<v Speaker 4>part of a deeper crisis of purpose and meaning, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in our young people. You're not getting ahead by smoking

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<v Speaker 4>pot in your parents' basement and somehow playing video games

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<v Speaker 4>and getting a head started the American dream. No, we

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<v Speaker 4>need to bring back that sense of culture and purpose

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<v Speaker 3>And that's going to be half of my job as

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<v Speaker 4>Half of the job is the policy, but the other

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<v Speaker 4>half of the job is to set the tone for

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<v Speaker 4>our revival rival of faith in our state, to stand

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<v Speaker 4>for religious freedom in our state, standing for the idea

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<v Speaker 4>of the nuclear family as the greatest form of governance

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<v Speaker 4>known to mankind. By eliminating the disincentives to family formation

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope even living our own life as the

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<v Speaker 4>an example for young people, that makes family formation cool again,

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<v Speaker 4>that restores that civic vacuum through civic education in our schools,

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<v Speaker 4>that teach kids to be proud of our state and

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<v Speaker 4>our country and of themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>With the pledge of allegiance.

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<v Speaker 4>Every morning, every high school senior who graduates from high

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<v Speaker 4>school in the state should pass a Civics test, the

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<v Speaker 4>same one that legal immigrants have to pass.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a deeper issue that I care about.

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<v Speaker 4>Is fulfill that crisis a purpose and the rest actually

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it all starts today. You're in Cincinnati at five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Then at eight pm you'll be in New Albany. And

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow you'll be in Taledo, where I got my law degree,

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<v Speaker 1>University of Toledo, the home of the Rockets. Than tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock you'll be in Strongsville, Ohio. The bell

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<v Speaker 1>is a rung and the torch has been lit. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been passed to a new generation of Ohio wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see what you can do with it. The polls

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<v Speaker 1>have you thirty points up. It'd be damn near impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to beat you in the primary. I would anticipate, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what David Yost and others do. But once again,

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<v Speaker 1>but Veke Ramaswami if Sandex High School, thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bill Cunningham Show this Monday afternoon announcing what

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be doing, and we'll keep the lines

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<v Speaker 1>of communication open and make God bless you and God

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<v Speaker 1>bless America.

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<v Speaker 5>But fake, Thank you very much, thank you, Billy, God

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<v Speaker 5>bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue with more your reaction five one, three, seven

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<v Speaker 1>four nine, seven thousand. And then, of course, the weather's

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<v Speaker 1>much greater better this Monday afternoon, and let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens later on in the week. But news coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next to Troome of the Reds playing ball now in Goodyear, Arizona,

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