Speaker 1: And don't touch that. Don't touch it again.
Speaker 2: That's cross contamination.
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cross cross contamination.
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to things that.
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gross contamination.
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bross cross contamination, cross cross cross cross candor cross cross
cross cross condamination.
Speaker 5: I was falling, gently, settled in the silence, frozen dark,
an empty hibernation. You were there to catch me, drawn
in by the wildness of broken heart, whole kind of
patience in your hands.
Speaker 2: My world does the world, the scream, all the world
of light.
Speaker 6: On the branches, open leg side, grass caps.
Speaker 5: Shearing, a light stole in second chances at the light,
and you're right. There's no wrong right, no one wrong
or right. It's only ever always in Queen running from
the heartache, certain in the distance, we had put behinde.
The best could only change us. Love was like an earthquake,
overwhelming and es capable and violent.
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screamed all the world light.
Speaker 6: Was on the branches over and like the sky COAXI
capturing a light stole in the second chances having them
a nine, And you're right.
Speaker 2: There's no wrong. You're right, no more not you're right.
Only I've always.
Speaker 7: That's a place where the bottles go down, and then
that's me.
Speaker 8: I'm from all of the same people strive to remind.
Speaker 9: You how we're so look go first, wata all how
we feel?
Speaker 8: Every day people fall apart the.
Speaker 9: Well, see it all the time.
Speaker 2: But I don't care.
Speaker 8: I don't care.
Speaker 10: I don't care what they'll say.
Speaker 9: There's our do And.
Speaker 8: In my own work.
Speaker 7: If I'm asking go on the streets, ny, Jill you to,
I'm let all right, tell only on the side we're
all down and out over every way where the people said,
why oh, why should I really check your this?
Speaker 11: Jo stover side, that's a place where the storm goes
down and go.
Speaker 8: Go b Well, I wonder where we're.
Speaker 12: But I'll be fine in my mind trying to make
a loose was right, ignore it on the outside once again.
Speaker 10: In the end, I'll be in the back.
Speaker 13: Of a.
Speaker 9: Lesson about just what I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm a beef of the stationer and.
Speaker 9: I you jill us to go home.
Speaker 8: I'm not a right down on the other side of.
Speaker 14: The falling yet.
Speaker 8: Oh, let's bring away. We got you guys.
Speaker 9: While should I really check your it's Joe not.
Speaker 8: To say.
Speaker 9: Last came to the Chaser killed us.
Speaker 11: Down on the other side with falling.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we got chah.
Speaker 15: Why why should I really Jack chases juic.
Speaker 1: Snop that is not the same by John Denton, who
we're going to be speaking with in just a moment.
Welcome everybody. It is Matt Connorton Unleashed. It is a Saturday,
March one, two thy twenty five. Jenny is here, of
course at the news table. And let's see we've got
them on skype here, John, are you there? Hello, Hey,
John Denton. Welcome to Matt Connorton Unleashed, our number one
on this Saturday morning. We just heard, of course, your
great track, not the same your debut single. And uh,
by the way, so you are you are a very
young man.
Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: So so it started off your career very strong. I
mean that is uh, that is such a great track.
And I was reading a little bit about it too,
and and what the lyrics are about and everything. So
so congratulations on that. And you've already made it to
American radio, so that's pretty cool.
Speaker 14: That's good day. Yeah, yeah, thanks forming me.
Speaker 1: Now, so tell us tell us a little bit about
the song first and then we'll you know, we'll talk
about your background and stuff. But because I was reading
about how the song is, uh, tell me if I
understand this correctly. Uh, And it's a subject that is
very near and dear to me of course, talking about
mental health and and what what different people are dealing
with and how we're not all the same in terms
of what we as individuals have to deal with, uh,
you know, mentally and emotionally and all of that. Is
that Am I on the right track?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 16: So I think, But I think I think when I
was writing the song, I just sort of I don't know,
it was just I think it was that time where
I was thinking a lot about, you know, because there's
some pretty bad stuff going on in my country and
obviously around the world and obviously you know, I'm just
I'm just love from a small town who you know
doesn't really well it doesn't you know, experience any of that.
So just sort of like, I don't know, just sort
of a right down my thoughts about like how you know,
you know other songs says you know, we're not the same. Sorry,
I'm so about I'm so about interviews me by Isolate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I was. I was reading too
about you know, some of your your influences in terms
of of the style of the song. I mean, it
reminded me a little bit of The Killers and maybe
The Strokes, and I was reading online, Uh, someone was
comparing it to something by the Smiths. I mean, is
that is that kind of your influence? I don't know,
I don't like, I don't know what your broader influence
influences are yet because you're just starting out. This is
your first uh, this is your first big single. But
but can you tell me about some of your musical
inspirations for for writing a song like this? And I'm
also curious to know if some of the other music
that you're working on if it's similar or or if
it has a different vibe and some different influences.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I'd say I've always been quite inspired by, like,
you know, the the sounds of my city, you know,
because I'm from Sulford.
Speaker 14: I'm from a time called sulf It.
Speaker 16: And it's it's in Manchester, okay, you know, way it
close to the cities, and so you know, I've got
you know, i'd say I've got a lot of access
to you know, like well obviously you obviously center and
the culture and yeh, so i'd say just to know
my hometownd stuff really like look like you know, like
Stone Roses and Smith's an Oasis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, the Stone Roses. That's another band
I was thinking of. It didn't come to mind when
I was talking about it, but when I was listening
to the song the first time because we actually played
it on the show last week for the first time,
and yeah, yeah, Stone Roses, that's I can definitely, I
can definitely hear that. Are you working on obviously this
is the first single, so this is the immediate focus.
But do you have something lined up for a second
single already or are you working on something? Where are
you in the process?
Speaker 16: I mean listening to them yeah. I mean, you know,
because I'm mostly wrapping zones all the time. So yeah,
I've always got you know, stuff, stuff going on. I
will be honest, there's a few, like there's a few
specific songs that I prefer to not the same, you know,
just sell you know, I say selfish like, you know,
just for myself, I prefer you know, I prefer it.
So you know, of course I'm right all the time.
So I'm probably quite know in a few months. So
obviously you know, doing second single and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we look forward to hearing more from more
from you in the future in terms of your musical output.
And like I said, you're off to such a great start.
Where was this recorded? Did you did you record not
the same uh? On your own? Or did you go
to a studio? Did you work with a producer? Because
it sounds great?
Speaker 16: Yes, I went to I went to Olive Studios any
time called witness it's not too far from Manchester and
you got called JOHNO.
Speaker 14: List name John Oltringo. Okay, so I added.
Speaker 16: The bass and all the all the guitars and up
to the vocals and ate it jumps.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's great when you can do the bulk
of it yourself, right, because then you you can be
assured that it's going to really be kind of your
vision of what the song should be, you know, instead
of being in a situation where maybe you go to
a studio and you've got studio musicians who are playing
these parts that you kind of have in mind. When
you have the ability to do it all yourself, that's
that's fantastic. And you said John did the drums and
obviously produce it.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So it was funny though, So so I think
I I think you have like a guide track, you know,
just with a metronomonic that I've done at home. Yeah,
And he literally just went on stairs and just did
a deal thing without putting much art into it.
Speaker 14: It was amazing, really yeah. He just yeah, I mean
the great.
Speaker 1: Your drums aren't like it's nice when it when it
comes together that quickly like that, and it's sort of
organic and intuitive, and you know, you know then that
you've got something really good and really strong when it
when it comes together the other quickly and you can say, wow,
this sounds great that. Do you intend to work with
him going forward? Are you going to uh? Are you
going to work with him on on future tracks. Are
you going to kind of maybe shop around a little
bit or do you have that part planned out yet?
Speaker 16: Yeah, so I think I'll I think most likely, you know,
for the next for the next few singers, I'll just
be working with him, I think.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 16: I think the one thing that I really like about
me is like, like one of the first things that
he said to me before before recording this.
Speaker 14: Song was that he wanted it sound real.
Speaker 16: And so that's like my main like what's the word,
that's my main sort of aspiration with it, you know,
with regarding songs.
Speaker 14: Definitely, so so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excellent. And now what about performing live? Do
you perform live in your area? I saw, I thought
I saw a couple of pictures that looked like they
were taken from a live show. But I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if at your age. I know,
here in America, when you're you know, if you're fourteen,
you're a little bit limited as far as places you
can play. I mean, you know, you can do coffee
houses and stuff like that, but you know, you certainly
can't do bars or pubs. I guess you would, you
would call them, But what what is your situation as
far as playing live? Are you able to do a
lot of live shows?
Speaker 14: Yeah, so I am.
Speaker 16: I've been geting so I've been thinking pretty much every
weekend for about like three years.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, excellent, excellent.
Speaker 16: Yeah, So I mean, I'll be honest back so at
the moment, like I look about eighteen and I've been
told that by by a lot of people.
Speaker 1: So that's good.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so just a I get any places.
Speaker 1: Oh that's oh, that's great, that's great. Yeah, that's that's
definitely to your advantage.
Speaker 16: Yes, I've begins around like Manchester, Liverpool. I'm doing your
first like proper, like a like long way gig. I'm
going to London in April and then that's gonna be
So it's my first international gig. Well i'd say, so, yeah, international.
I'm going to Scotland. I'm going to Glasgow this year
at one point. Yeah, there's no date, there's no date. Yeah, yeah,
exactly happening here. So yeah, I'm looking forward to that definitely.
Speaker 1: Oh that's excellent. Okay. So, so in addition to obviously
so the single, you're getting some traction with and and
you're sounds like you've got a lot of good traction
too as far as playing out. You know, you're playing
every weekend. That's fantastic. Good for you. Also, I'm curious
to know more about your connection to Johnny Marr. You've
got Johnny Mar's stamp of approval, but can you tell
us a little bit about that.
Speaker 16: Yeah, so about about three years ago, Yes, about three
years ago, I just met I just met him by
chance in Manchester at this record signing and then the
year after he put this light application form and it
was targeted at Salford to aviously my owntown, like you know,
and yes, so it was it was it was called
it the Johnny marrow Ard, and it was a basically
I'm trying to find a work the right way to
explain it. So it was like a fun not one raiser, sorry,
it was like a bit of funding for like a
for one musician. So obviously you know that it was
joined with this foundation, the Sulfur Foundation, which is my owntown,
and they were going to pick one musician to like,
you know, help out of it. And and yes, right
I applied and I got it and I met him
again and it was greater the hero.
Speaker 14: So it was amazing. Fami yea, because he because I
got the ord like he really is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, no, that's that's fantastic. And uh, you
just never know where something like that will lead. Is
that was it because of him that you connected with
that producer that you're working with or did that happen separately?
Speaker 16: So I'm working with this this management compant well I
say company, but like this management group, and they've let
me up with him.
Speaker 14: And yeah, it's been good.
Speaker 1: That's excellent. Yeah, so you've got you've got a lot
of power behind you. That's great, that's great. Any idea
when the next single will be out? We're already, like
I said, we played we played not the same last
week on the show, and all the response that we've heard,
all the feedback has been very positive. So people want
to hear more from you, obviously, and you're you're just
starting out. But do you know when the next single
might be?
Speaker 16: I don't know, no, Yeah, but i'd say like maybe
like near the end of this year somewhere obviously, I guess. Obviously,
you know, you've got to pick the right song because
when you like it all depends on your financial situation,
if you know what I mean. I've got a bit
of saving up to do, so.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you've probably got a lot of Yeah, I'm
sure you've already written a lot of music, and it
probably some of it comes down to just kind of
figuring out what the next song is that you want
to record, right because you've you've probably got quite a
few that you have ready to go. Just a matter
of making decisions about what to do next, I would assume, yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, absolutely, Well, John,
like I said, we love the track. Uh, where should
people know to? Where should they go to find you online?
What is the best place for people to go online
to keep track with everything that John Denton is doing
in terms of your music? And you know, if we
have listeners over there who want to know where they
can see you live, et cetera. Hopefully someday you'll be
able to come to America too to play live. But
but where should people go online to keep up with
everything that you're doing?
Speaker 14: Yes?
Speaker 16: So social mediais I'm on Instagram. I'll tell you this
comes like the main platform just because you know, that's
where've got the most people sort of interaction with me.
So Instagram and Twitter, TikTok, TikTok. Great, for musicians, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 14: Is it not bud in your country?
Speaker 1: I thought it was TikTok was banned and then quickly unbanned,
and I think that was probably it. I don't think
it's going to get banned again. But the the political
situation here is so strange. Anything can happen and uh,
I mean almost literally anything can happen here, John. But
but right now, right now, TikTok Is is not banned
in the United States. But we'll see what the future holds.
And yeah, TikTok is a great resource for musicians absolutely.
Speaker 16: Absolutely all the dreaming platforms. And do you listen to
his own?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool. So, John, it's
been wonderful speaking with you. We're going to actually close
out the segment with We're gonna give this another spin,
not the same. It's such a great song, very very catchy.
We love it here. Like I said, a lot of
great feedback here. And hopefully this is only the beginning
of your you know, your your beginnings with on American radio, uh,
because we think you have a great sound and uh,
and I wish you continued success. And when the next
single is ready, let's definitely have you back and we
can talk some more then and we will look forward
to hearing new music from you.
Speaker 16: I've noticed that I've noticed that American radio presenters up,
I know what's the words, they're a lot more hsiastic
compared to the British ones.
Speaker 14: So yeah, yeah, well wonderful.
Speaker 1: Perhaps we're a little bit less reserved, but yes, no,
we we love what you're doing.
Speaker 5: John.
Speaker 1: We'll let you go so we can give this another spin.
But thank you so much for joining us today. We
appreciate it, and we will talk again soon. All right,
you got it, John, take care, bye bye. All right.
That was John Denton skyping in from the UK. Very
young man, very impressive, fourteen years old, but just starting out.
So it's nice to kind of be in at ground
zero of his career and see him from from very early.
But let's give this another spin. If you missed it,
not the same, and then we've got a great show.
I'll plan for you for the rest of the show
as well. We are we are only speaking of only
getting started. We are in the early stages of this
approach ram today here on Matt Connorton Unleashed. But if
you miss it, here it is again, or if you
heard it and you just want to hear it again,
this is not the same John Denton.
Speaker 8: That's the place where the bottles go.
Speaker 10: Down, and then that's me.
Speaker 17: I'm from.
Speaker 9: All of the same.
Speaker 1: People's rides are in my yah.
Speaker 9: How is so look Kip go first, I wanta know.
Speaker 18: I it field.
Speaker 8: Every day people fall above the.
Speaker 9: Well see it all side, But I don't care. I
don't cat.
Speaker 10: I don't care what they'll say because I do it
in my own work.
Speaker 19: Five nice people fall off the street shirt.
Speaker 8: N Jill said, don't I'm not al right down on.
Speaker 9: The other side. We're all down and out.
Speaker 8: Over every well.
Speaker 9: People who said.
Speaker 11: Why why should I really check your this jo start side.
Speaker 10: That's a place where the song goes down and.
Speaker 8: Go go b Well, I won't know where, but.
Speaker 10: I'll be fine in my mind trying to make go loose.
Speaker 2: Worse right, ignore it all.
Speaker 8: The outside.
Speaker 9: Once again in the end, ally in the back of.
Speaker 8: A joy about to do.
Speaker 7: People say, say to jail, just to go.
Speaker 19: Down on the up the side of the follow Yeah,
oh break away, we got you that a while.
Speaker 8: So I really checked against Joe stop say.
Speaker 9: Chase chill, mister.
Speaker 19: Fat you.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 1: That is not the same. That is the debut single
from fourteen year old John Denton from the UK and
I was wonderful speaking with him and we look forward
to more from him in the future. This is Matt
Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of
w m n H ninety five point three FM, Inglorious Manchester,
New Hampshire. Of course, also streaming online. Go to Matt
connorton dot com slash live for all your live streaming options,
social media links contact infosh are, chives, et cetera, et cetera.
Today is March first, twenty to twenty five. Jenny of
course is here at the news table. Oh you know what,
I didn't load it up. I didn't load it up
because we did things in kind of a different order today.
Speaker 20: Well fine, jeez, that was a lackluster Well good morning.
Now that's better, Jenny, Morning Sun.
Speaker 1: It just seems weird playing it. It's almost nine thirty
weird to say it, I know, I know. Hey, we
should mention the art show coming up. Do you have
the it's the matter you don't have that ready. I
wanted to give that a plug early, I know, and
we'll mention it again later too that it's very exciting.
It's it's at top of mind for me because of
course yesterday I dropped off some of your art.
Speaker 21: So it's been a fun week for me for art.
This you were at one gallery picking up art and
you're at another gallery dropping off art, all in the
same week.
Speaker 22: It's fun.
Speaker 1: This will be and this is the third place right
that your art will have been featured because there's there's Mosaic, yeah,
and then and then of course before it became New
Hampshire Underground, when it was still the Midnight Creatives Collective. Yeah,
in Nashua, Eleanora and Andre they featured your art there.
Speaker 21: Wonder if they do a black line and and now.
Speaker 1: Now you have a third place feature in your artwork.
Speaker 21: I'm super excited too. I never would have thought that
this was going I know, right, So what's going to happen.
Speaker 20: What's gonna happen right here in the Queens City on
March fifty, there's going to be a unique art show.
Speaker 21: This is called the Uncensored Underground.
Speaker 20: Art Experience and it's going to be how the twenty
garden Way, excuse me, twenty garden Walk for give me
right here in the Queen City from six to nine pm.
Speaker 21: And this show is uncensored, it's for adults.
Speaker 20: It's political, it's ugly, it's beautiful, it's amazing, and you
really really get to come see it. They actually fell
in love with my insurance collection, and they've actually requested
that I bring all of the paintings in, even though
they don't think they're going to be able to hang
all of them, all five of them, but they wanted
to see all of them. So you actually brought all
of them in and one of them you can play
with with some three D glasses which I also sent
in as well.
Speaker 21: For those that don't know.
Speaker 20: The insurance collection was my outlet of fighting with insurance
companies for coverage and for the things I'm supposed to
be able to have, and that ended up coming out
in my artwork.
Speaker 21: So it started with the illustrious agent.
Speaker 20: And how wonderful they treated me, and it went on
from there to you know, dealing with the vice President
who was attacking and came across so attacking that it
came out as quite the interesting painting, which you can
check out at Gencoffee dot com.
Speaker 5: J E. N. N.
Speaker 20: Co f f uy dot com. Check out my creations,
lots of things there, lots of information on my activism
as well. And actually my website got a revamp recently.
I have an amazing webmaster. Yes and yeah, I'm pretty
excited about the changes and I'm going to be you
going to see a little bit more of me I
think in the future.
Speaker 1: Very good. Well, congratulations on that, of course, thank you.
We should also plug two. Someone with your last name
is performing live later today.
Speaker 21: Yes, they are at the Great North Alworks right here,
also in the Queen City. Oh forgive me cool.
Speaker 20: My son Jesse Coffee will be performing tonight starting at
four pm at the Great North. He's a singer songwriter.
He has an amazing voice and if you've never been
to the Great North, it's an amazing place.
Speaker 21: They have a lot of homegrown creations and if you
love sporting, local small business, you definitely want to go
support the Great North.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and we have an exciting show for you today.
Of course, we did speak a few minutes ago with
John Denton, a very impressive young man from the UK,
and his first single and his first time on American
radio is track Not the Same, Great song Coming up.
In the second hour, singer songwriter Ian Gallipo will be here,
and in the third hour we're going to be talking
with Jordan about his project Becoming Human. He will be
skyping in from Texas. I love that so oh Becoming Human.
Speaker 21: Yeah yes, yeah, really they've been on my playlist now
for well over a year.
Speaker 1: Really great, really great. By the way, we'll say hello
to a few people in the chat room too. In
the Facebook chat I see Chris Porrier better known as Chrispy,
a great local comedian who's been on the show. He says, Hi,
Matt and Jenny, I love your art. Oh, very nice,
very nice. Our friend Ricky Mapleton in the chat room
and said hello. That's why I decided to open with
a Ricky Mapleton song today at the beginning of the show,
the cross contamination song food safety very important, very important,
very important. So no, we love that song and we
played it in Ian Gallipo track, and then of course
played not the Same by John Denton to open our conversation.
Also Eric Lesniak in the chat room. Eric does a
lot for the city here, for Manchester and very important
part of things here and is on the morning show.
I believe every Friday. He is on the morning show
with Peter White here in the studio and actually one
of the oh wow, was a while ago now, it
must have been like a year and a half ago
at least, but there was a morning show that I
was on, not here, it was in the old studio.
That's how I know it was a while ago that
Eric was also on a Friday morning. Oh, it was
when we were making the format change with this show
and we were kind of announcing everything. So it's great
to actually get to sit with Eric on the morning show.
That was a while ago though, But yeah, Eric Lesniak
does a lot of great things. Let's see. Also, we've
got bfraid, Boston's Final Raid in the chat room. H
And we haven't done this in a while, but our
old friend Isaac Banks from from Greensboro, North Carolina in
the chat room. Let's see, Isaac says, good morning, Matt.
What's happening Matt. Yesterday my friend Pete ives rube Ly
or Ruby passed away and he was old time friend
of mine since he is from Greensboro, North Carolina. He
was in a wheelchair. He rides the bus. Rest in peace,
Michelle Tractenburg. We love. This is all Isaac rest in Peace,
Michelle Tractenburg, We love you, good morning. Hashtag Jen coffee.
Hashtag Jen Coffee. I am known as Eichman Breezy and
I did videos of cover tunes hashtag Jen coffee. I
did cover song of Peter Set just Like Love. Hashtag
Matt and hashtag Jen. Jeff Pegari and Johnny McKee v
formed a or Maybe It's Five. Johnny formed a singing
quartet mixed group called GSO six with Evan McGraw, Valerie Miller,
Kathy Clifton, and Egan Conrad. Matt connorton Unleashed check out
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Generation Socially six for the singing quartet mixed group. Of
the lineup is Jeff Pegari, Valerie Biller, Johnny McKee five,
Egan Conrad, Evan McGrath and Kathy Clifton. Generation Socially six
manager is Joshua Walker and producer is me Isaac Banks.
Hashtag Matt and hashtag Jen. I'm watching you from Greensboro,
North Carela. Very good. Well, It's wonderful to get caught
up with Isaac Banks from Iikman breezy. Yes, yes, very nice,
very nice.
Speaker 22: Hey.
Speaker 1: So something we started to do recently too on the
show and we didn't get we didn't get far with
it because we just ran out of time. But uh,
you know, because we talk about AI and we do
have a couple of news stories involving AI and music
and so forth that we might get to. But we
also started to I thought it would be fun. And
this is something I've kind of had in the back
of my mind for months and months and months, and
we've just ever had time to get to it. But
we might do it right now. And this could be
This could be a lot of fun. This could be
a disaster. I don't know what's going to happen. But
Sono is one of the services where you can create
AI music AI generated music, and I thought it would
be fun because they do have a free version, because
I don't like to pay for things, especially if I
don't think I'm ever going to use them again, although
who knows, I might use this again in the future.
We shall see. But Souno Suno dot com. I did
set up a free account. This was a few weeks ago.
We had started to do this and then, like I said,
we just ran out of time, but I thought it
would be interesting if we create an AI generated song
live on the air and just see what happens and
see what all the fuss is about. So I created
an account and didn't get very far. But one of
the options is so song description, and they give you
an example of a song description that you can use
a prompt if you will an AI prompt. So the
first song description, well, here's what it says. Describe the
style of music and topic you want. For example, acoustic
pop about the holidays. Use genres in vibes instead of
specific artists and songs, So they don't want examples of
artists and songs that you want to sound like, but
they want they want a description of what the vibe
should be. And an example that they give is an
emotional classical song about a faded photo on the mantle.
So what should we Jenny, what should we prompt it
to to write about? What should be?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 21: Death destruction?
Speaker 1: K okay? So I'm going to type that I'm channeling
Melanie death destruction. De kay. Now let's see, and then
you can you can select a lyrics model. Uh, you
know what I think? So there's two options here. There's
uh remy, which is our newest, most creative model, may
generate content that some find offensive. Okay, so we don't
want that because.
Speaker 21: One, because we need to uh it's Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: We don't want to create something that I can't actually
play on the air. Or the other option is that
we can stick with classic follows prompts closely and takes
fewer risks. But you know what, I'm also too because
I just to be sure. I mean, we are on
a delay. I can always set the dump button, but
I don't want to have to do that. So I'm
going to Okay, so I typed death, destruction, decay, but
I'm also going to say with clean lyrics, no profanity,
because we don't want it to spit out something I
can't even play on the air. Okay, So, well, it
doesn't want it doesn't want specific. It wants vibes, not
I don't. That might be that might be getting too
specific if I say that. Okay, So now, so now
I'm going to click create.
Speaker 21: And does it tell you it doesn't give you, like
the ability to pick like John.
Speaker 1: Well no, I oh no, oh no, I could have,
but I just typed. I mean we can we can always.
I just I just typed death, destruction, decay, and then
I also said with clean lyrics, no profanity. Okay. So
it is generating. It looks like it is generating more
than one option. It's it's given. Oh okay, it's created
a couple of files. So they both have the same
name though. Walts of the Shadows is the name of
the song, and there's a descriptor underneath it. It says clean,
haunting orchestral dark. It's called Walts of the Shadows. But
it looks like it's created two of them. Okay, So
I'm gonna click the first one and let's see what happens.
This is we're doing this live on the air. I
never done this before. This is AI generated by this
service Souno dot com. So I'm going to go ahead
and click this and I'm gonna click play and let's
just see what happens. Sounds like the beginning of an
Evanescence song so far.
Speaker 23: In Blood for Shadows dotre Oh, it's kind of nice.
Speaker 18: Whispers of vended.
Speaker 21: We can't see.
Speaker 23: The care of said songs around time as dusk transforms into.
Speaker 18: Nice, what sings a quiet beneath the song for.
Speaker 23: Destruction writes letters in a dreams turn to dust in
a flash.
Speaker 1: Well I can see, well, I can see why people
are worried because this is this is AI generated. But
it's also really yeah, it's it's good. It's it's legitimately good.
It's not even like, oh, this is good for AI.
I guess no, this is like, this sounds legit. I'm
understanding song.
Speaker 21: It really does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm understanding on a new level why people are
legitimately worried, you know what I mean.
Speaker 21: And it just did that in a split second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a couple of prompts.
Speaker 21: It's disturbing.
Speaker 1: Okay, Rather than listening to the whole song, though, let's
pick because it gave us it. Well, it gave us
two options, so let's listen to the second option and
see what this is, and it might be similar. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Through the land where shadows dance.
Speaker 1: Oh, now we have a male vocalist.
Speaker 2: Whispers of endings. We can see.
Speaker 13: Dka wraps its arms around time his dust transforms into nine.
Speaker 2: All things a quiet to.
Speaker 18: Beneath the sord.
Speaker 1: So now we have acause, Jenny, you had to leave
the room for a moment. Now we have a male
vocalist on the On the second example.
Speaker 2: Dreams turned to dust In a.
Speaker 1: What's really good? It's really good? Oh boy? But why
is it good?
Speaker 8: Stories I have and it's just.
Speaker 15: And steagetation times.
Speaker 8: I just.
Speaker 1: This is so much better than I expected. Really, yeah
it is. I didn't expect it to be this quality.
Speaker 2: Whos trees so embrace?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's really good. Now I do want to
just for the heck of it. Uh, this is not
something that we've This is a subject we haven't visited
in a while. But I just want to see what
it does, so you know how of course, you know,
last week we were talking about Kendrick Lamar super Bowl
appearance and everything during the halftime show, and of course
you know we're talking about you know, the great hip
hop beefs of all time. Now, I had a hip
hop beef which we haven't mentioned in a long time
because I hate to poke that bear because I do
fear for my life. But well, of course mc Hammer
for for uh. This was quite a few years ago now,
but I was concerned MC hammer was going to uh
to come here and harm me. I would like to
ask this program, soono to create a disc track about
MC Hammer that my alter ego M Sizzle could perhaps
a death lyrics. Yes, yes, I'm going.
Speaker 21: To I don't have to hit the dump, right.
Speaker 24: I don't know if this will even this might be
if this works, Oh my god. Okay, so will it
tell you to not going to go there?
Speaker 1: Okay? This track it did because it did say not
to mention specific artists, but this is about a specific artist. Okay,
So this track about uh about MC hammer, clean lyrics only,
no offensive words. Uh, and let's just see what happens. Okay,
So I'm gonna click create. Yeah. For those who don't
know what I'm referring to, if you if you go
on YouTube and just type in Matt Connerton mc Hammer,
you can find the whole saga. I was in fear
for my life. Okay, so we're gonna.
Speaker 21: Start trouble again to change my phone number again.
Speaker 1: People who are new to the show are like, what
are you talking about? And people who know and people
who are not new to the show are also like,
what are you talking about? But but yeah, just go
on YouTube and just okay. So it has created a
song called Hammer Time out Out. Yes, oh, my God,
and the uh and the description and the description it
says hip hop, funky, clean and great news. It has
also given us two It says, yeah, yeah, It has
also given us two examples. So well, all right, let's
play the first one. I hope Hammers not listening. He's
going to be angry with me all over again. All right,
here's the first one.
Speaker 15: Always told us, can't just this do that, dude, this
now for them shine it. Parachute pants thought she was
so fly wow, But now you're just a memory dancing
in the swing past, faded from the lime like beust.
Speaker 8: Good things never last.
Speaker 2: It's hell of time out.
Speaker 8: You couldn't keep the beat.
Speaker 2: Dance your way to the top.
Speaker 15: Now you're off your feet something you had your moment.
Speaker 2: Now it's sitting away.
Speaker 15: Hamming time out.
Speaker 2: Looks like you're yes, oh.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, what's the wow?
Speaker 2: Soul?
Speaker 15: Millions like hotcakes, But those fans moved on. Now they
vibe with new steaks. Your moves were sling, but transchange
real quick, cause it's tough when the time don't match
the track.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's ham and time out. You couldn't keep the beat.
Dance your way to the top. Now you're off your
old feet.
Speaker 9: You had your moment.
Speaker 2: Now it's slipping way Hamlet sime out looks like you're yesterday.
Speaker 15: You had the flash, the cash, a mansion, soul grand,
But fame is a fickle frame things getting out a
head came and swinging hard. I thought you'd always stand toll.
Now it's Hammo time out. Ain't we see it?
Speaker 2: Oh my good? But it ain't no denying.
Speaker 9: You rocked.
Speaker 2: That Golden Age brought some fun and.
Speaker 8: Flare to the concert stage. Know the curtain clues. Damn,
the crowds moved on.
Speaker 15: Can't erase the groove of your classics, son of sime.
Speaker 1: Out there deep the beat as.
Speaker 15: Your way to the top.
Speaker 2: Now you're off your feet.
Speaker 9: You had a moment.
Speaker 15: Now it's say.
Speaker 2: He looks like you were yesterday.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's hamn same out.
Speaker 2: It's heaven sad out.
Speaker 1: It's not quite what I expected though in the sunset
poppy because I said distrack, so I thought it would
be somebody rapping instead of singing. There's more.
Speaker 15: Wow, that Golden Age brought some fun to the concert stage.
The curtain clothes and the crowds moved on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's repeating the first verse. Yeah, all right,
let's check. Let's check the other one.
Speaker 21: Let's see. Well this female around.
Speaker 8: Can't touch this?
Speaker 5: Do that?
Speaker 24: Do this?
Speaker 2: Now them shining parachute pants.
Speaker 8: Thought you were so fly wow, But.
Speaker 1: Now the one dancing in the swank sort.
Speaker 2: Of faded from the limelight. I guess good things. Never less,
it's had a time out.
Speaker 21: You couldn't keep the beating.
Speaker 1: Dance your way, Yeah, your feet. You had a moment.
Speaker 2: Now it's being away.
Speaker 15: Hammer sound looks like you yesterday once upon a time
sold millions like hot cakes, but those fans moved on.
Speaker 9: Now they've vib.
Speaker 2: Your mapples were slick, but trans changed. Real.
Speaker 1: What's that? What's that?
Speaker 21: Maybe you have to tell it for you around?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 21: Yeah, the lyrics is the first one. Yeah, they're both
poppy yea bubble gum pop.
Speaker 1: All right, let me uh, let me say rapping disc
track and that by the way, So for anyone listening,
if you're listening to the show and you want to
hear the full versions of this, I will put these
on YouTube. I'll put the full things on YouTube because
I know we gotta Yeah, yeah, and uh is our
is our? Is he in here? Yes, okay, and our
next guest is here, so we want to get them
in shortly because we're already approaching the top of the
r But I just want to try this really quick,
so I I changed the prompt. I put rapping in
the prompt and let's just see if this works, and
we'll just listen to a little bit of it and
then we'll move on.
Speaker 8: And uh.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I'll put these all on YouTube later.
I'll put them up on the i PM Nation YouTube
channel and I'll share them out so you can see. Okay,
oh okay, So this one is called and again it
made two versions, can't touch your missteps.
Speaker 7: And uh.
Speaker 1: In the uh description it says rap clean, rhythmic, edgy,
hip hop edgy. Okay, but Cleen is in there. All right,
let's see what we got.
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, uh uh pencil baggy looking like hot air balloons.
Speaker 1: Dancing on TV.
Speaker 15: But your career popping soon through saxic cash inside.
Speaker 8: A golden room.
Speaker 1: Now your bank account emptier than.
Speaker 7: A monsoon chasing trend's hard, saw your flaws on display,
paid for your fame.
Speaker 21: Now you can't afford to stay used to be a star,
Now you're in disarray.
Speaker 1: Can't touch success when it slips away.
Speaker 17: Can't touch your missteps, man, it's of it, falling from
grace pass so relevant, yeah, can't touch your future, man,
it has it.
Speaker 2: One s the king now a.
Speaker 15: Broken testinent, spent all that dough on a lavish throne,
built up an empire.
Speaker 2: Now you're all alone.
Speaker 1: Thought you were on touched a bullet now all right,
I'm gonna pause out on. Let's just check the other
one really quick, Like I said, if you want to
hear the whole thing, I'll put it on YouTube later,
I promise. Yeah.
Speaker 25: Pay so baggy looking like high air balloons dancing on TV.
Speaker 2: But your career, puppy soon.
Speaker 25: Sex and catch is not a golden room. Now you
bake account emptier than a month soon. He's in trend's
hard saw your flaws on display. Paid for your fame, man,
you can't afford to stay. Used to be a star now.
Speaker 8: Your wind disarray.
Speaker 1: Can't touch success when it slips.
Speaker 25: Away, can't touch your missteps, man, it's of it and.
Speaker 21: Fallen from grace past, so relevant.
Speaker 1: Can't touch your future.
Speaker 21: Man, it's hesitant.
Speaker 1: Once a king now a.
Speaker 2: Broken testament, spent all that dole on the Lavish throng.
Speaker 1: These are really good?
Speaker 21: Why are they really good?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm extremely impressed. Well, we
know why because you know generative AI. We know how
it works, and it sucks up everything and and.
Speaker 21: Uh because it learned it all from real artist.
Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. But but what it's what it's giving us.
This is so this, this far far exceeds my expectations
as good. I didn't think it.
Speaker 21: I didn't think it would be good.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be this good.
Speaker 21: So but then, you know, you think about it.
Speaker 20: There's so much talent in the world and how many
millions or billions of data that has it sucked in
every potential artist out there, every yeah, you know, from
from the the person who's at home in their closet.
Speaker 21: It's her in it. Yeah, and it's putting all that
data into this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too easy. It is, it's very I mean,
we created these with a simple prompt, a prompt like
one prompt, and and this is what we got. So
I don't know, is this it is this the end
of music? Is music dead?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 21: You don't protect the artists.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to I don't know what.
Speaker 21: Don't protect the artist, you won't be able to know
which ones what.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm amazed.
Speaker 26: I mean this is uh, I mean, Testament spent all
that toe on eleve stroll, built up in the empire.
Speaker 8: Now you're all alone.
Speaker 15: Thought you were run such a bullnell over Blowncastle turned
to say, left with just a tone orsement.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm more impressed with the beat than anything, really,
I mean, the lyrics are clever, but I'm but I'm
impressed with the but the beat to the production, you know,
I mean it's like, oh my god, what have we
gotten ourselves into? Well, this is I'm glad we finally
had a chance to do this so on the show.
This is fun and this is interesting, but it's also terrifying,
you know, I mean, and uh, I don't know. I'm
kind of almost speechless. But anyway, all right, so we're
gonna fade that out than I thought.
Speaker 21: We're even more concerned than I heard he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 20: Yeah, for artists to protect their work, I mean, if
it's learning off of everybody else's.
Speaker 21: Work, yeah, it's not coming up with something unique in
that way.
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's repurposing everything it's learned from something else, the
human something else.
Speaker 1: But let's not lose track of what I think is
ultimately the most important thing here in this moment, and
that is just like Kendrick Lamar with the final nail
in Drake's coffin, with that halftime show performance. I, by
creating these disc tracks using AI, within seconds, Peter have
emerged triumphant in my long standing beef with mc hammer.
I don't know, yes, And if I look at my
Google Analytics.
Speaker 21: Again, you're gonna be sleeping on the couch.
Speaker 1: If I look at my Google Analytics for my website
later and I see Oakland, California showing up again, I'll
know that he knows that once again he has been
bested by his arch nemesis M sizzle. Oh God, yes, effortlessly.
So all right, well here we're going to end the
hour with UH. We're gonna play another one of these
great studio tracks from a real, living, breathing musician, Ian
Gallipo and UH, And then we'll show some love to
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mute the still playing. Now it's away, all right, okay,
I close that out. All right, here we go. This
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Speaker 2: Count down the lift off, knowing you and I be
worlds upon.
Speaker 27: Expectations were a couple of months at most, we would
do our level.
Speaker 2: Best to carry on firely, rumbling down below sky above.
Speaker 22: On folds, and it's getting dark.
Speaker 2: Sky above U falls AND's getting dar.
Speaker 5: We made it farther than anybody evergot of home. Starlight
filled us up so we could stab beyond the limits.
Speaker 2: Everybody said it would take their toll.
Speaker 22: We opened up the whole world to explore together, just
a light on in the dark together, just a light
on in the dark, all on the horizon, and all
that you could do.
Speaker 2: Was ward.
Speaker 27: While I was overwhelmed, and there was nothing I could say,
but my baderi is long and it's getting dark. My
badi is long and it's getting dark.
Speaker 2: We tried to hold on. The week's turned into months,
still out of range, until that moment when you sang
out yr goodbye. I was too far gone for you
to hear me. But the morning sun let the heart
in sight, A fine no pulse, a glamor the dark.
Speaker 5: A fineal pulse of glamor and the dark.
Speaker 8: Together, just a light on in the dark.
Speaker 27: The sky above and fall, and it's getting dark, My bad,