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Speaker 1: In today's episode, what the hell is going on with
Blue Point? Beware of Resident Evil Requiem spoilers?
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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get into all of the news,
but first we're gonna take a quick break.
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Speaker 1: All right, Mike, Let's get right into it. Sony shuts
down video game studio Blue Point. Jason Schreyer reported Sony
Group Corporation is shutting down Bluepoint Games, the PlayStation subsidiary
responsible for developing remakes of video games such as Demon Souls.
Roughly seventy employees will will lose their jobs amid the
studio closure. A PlayStation spokesperson said, writing in a statement
that the decision was made following a recent business review.
Bluepoint will officially shut her next month. Bluepoint Games is
an incredibly talented team, and their technical expertise was delivered.
It has delivered exceptional experiences for the PlayStation community. We
thank them for their passion, creativity and craftsmanship.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, but then why god, uh huh, Well, here's the butt.
Speaker 1: Over at Kataku, they were able to get internal email
send out to people explaining the decision. I wanted to
share an update from the studio business. The message, a
copy of which was viewed by Kotaku, began, as I
mentioned in the December town hall twenty twenty five, had
some strong highlights within PlayStation studios.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Same time, we're operating in an increasingly challenging industry environment.
Rising development costs, sload industry growth, changing player behavior, and
broader economic headwinds are making it harder to build games sustainably.
To navigate this reality, we need to continue adapting and involving.
We've taken a close look at our business to ensure
we're delivering today well while still well positioned for the future.
As a result, we will be closing Bluepoint Games in March.
This decision was not made lightly. Blue Point is an
incredibly talented team and their technical expertise blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Once again, they set all that bullshit again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, rising development costs, slowed industry growth, changing player behavior,
and broader economic headwinds.
Speaker 2: It's everyone's fault, but our own. I mean, since the
gamer's fault, Mike, what the hell are they talking about?
They clearly there is still an appetite for remasters in remakes,
which is the thing that god they just announced God
of Work one through three remastered, right, excuse me, remake,
So they're doing those. There's there's like one hundred PlayStation
one places to two places in three games that you
could remake or remaster. Uh, this is these people are
good at it. I don't know why they were ever
put on a God of War live service game anyways.
Maybe that was their idea. I don't know if it was.
You tell them, no, you're going to remake Uncharted one.
If Naughty Dog has a problem with it, you will not.
You settle that, you forget that. And if they're having
a problem with that, then have them remake Ape Escape
or something. I don't know, it's gotta be something. People
are literally begging you to remaster Blood Born, right, Like,
for the love of god, let's be fair. PlayStation's profits
only rose by nineteen percent last quarter. What the shit about?
What are they worried? I mean, is this really just
because the language here me trying to read between the
lines with like worrying about the future, Like, tell me
if you think I'm wrong, I'm still hearing the whole
We need live service hits we need live service hits,
and we gave a chance to give us one, and
they did it so that we don't see any value
in them anymore. And that's it. Look, I tried to
dig into this a little bit.
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to get much kind of when I
was talking to people, though, it sounds like yeah, like
the publicly available information about they were working on a
God of War live service game, then that got canceled,
and then they've been spending the intervening time trying to
pitch other things to work on, and Sony has not
been happy with any of those.
Speaker 2: That's as far as I was able.
Speaker 1: To get to be like yeah, no, now, Like basically
I was being led and like, so what do you
think Sony wants? And it's please don't tell me still
live service games, because like that, they're not a shirt thing.
In a way, a remake of a recognizable product from
your immense backlog would be a much more surefire thing.
Speaker 2: Like sure, it doesn't have the lottery or the lotto number.
Speaker 1: Effect of being able to hit the jackpot and making
infinite money. Sure, but it's a risk that you're talking
about the crew, the economic headwinds, like just take a
sure bet from this thing that you acquired five years
ago and never had them release a fucking game while
you own them.
Speaker 2: I'm so tired of them talking about live service as
like a smart investment in the future and not the
fucking lotto ticket that it is all right and they
just want to buy more Lotto tickets. They've had one
payout ever recently as Hell divers too. We'll see what
happens with Marathon. Seems like people are maybe gonna be
a bit more stup to that. I don't know, it's
just bizarre. It seems like Sony was finally getting a
bit of goodwill after that state of play. People feel
like kind of good But like you know, I think
a big issue is still not very many first party
games from Sony anymore these days. So what are we
gonna do? Get rid of one of their studios, a
studio that they bought not that long ago. It basically
aren't releasing anything under the time that they bought them.
Why did you buy them? They did? They literally buy
them because way this remix studio, We're gonna get them
to make live service. And is that that was just
the understanding and also the god like God the God
of War life service game. What was that idea? What
the hell was that idea? Is somehow a worse idea
than the God of War Metroid venue that you fucked
up already?
Speaker 1: It is, You're right, like it feels like they got
the goodwill coming out of the state of player are like, Okay,
now it's the time to strike and make this really
awful decision.
Speaker 2: I I don't.
Speaker 1: I really just am at a loss with this where
it's you know, it looks bad because it looks like
mismanagement in the fact that they released the game in
twenty twenty you bought them in the wake of that.
Then you uh, you bought them in the wake of
that in twenty twenty one, and they never have them
release anything, and the one thing we heard about them
working on is an absurd idea God of War live
service game. So it's like it just sounds like mismanagement
across the board, And like, what I'm worried about is
is so has Sony not sort of shifted to a
new strategy beyond the Jim Ryan everything live service strategy?
Is that is that because you know, maybe even at
God of Work game, we don't know you're right, maybe
they wanted to make that at Bluepoint, I doubt it. Usually,
how I think those things go is the kinds of
games these studios end up working on, even if they're
the studios idea, are the kinds of things they know
that they can get green lighted when they propose them
to the people who are making the decisions and controlling
the purse strings and can decide budgets and abilities for
like leadership at studios to have promotions and all this stuff.
So you know, if they did they promote, they tried
to get that game made because that's what Sony wanted,
and then they've spent the last few years being like, well,
now let's pitch some remakes maybe, and Sony says no,
And then Sony's like, but well, maybe try to come
back with a live service game, and the Blue Point
people were like, well, we don't want to do that.
We're gonna keep trying to pitch other stuff, or maybe
we'll half hardly pitch a live service game that we
don't really believe in. And then the result of that
is not like finding some common ground or finding just
some way to be like, okay, remake this very obvious
thing that would make a lot of money. It's closed
the studio. How on earth are we here with this?
Speaker 2: It's so bizarre. There's the one company that doesn't even
need to really make the live service games. People play
the live service games on PlayStations. Yeah, you make money
from you don't have to take the gamble and see
if one of yours becomes the hit. Sure it's nice
if you do. But people are gonna play Fortnite on
your console, whichever one's the next big thing. They are
going to play on place. They're not gonna play on
the xboxes anymore. They're gonna play a PlayStation or maybe PC.
But that's still a huge chunk for you, and like,
in their own words, in their own words, an incredibly
talented team that has technical expertise, that has delivered exceptional
experiences and has passion creativity and craftsmanship that has no
room at PlayStation right now. Like that's literally what you're saying, Like,
fuck you, what the hell are you doing here?
Speaker 1: You know, it goes back to this thing that I
felt for a long time, which is what are what
are we as people who enjoy this hobby getting out
of corporations running the whole show, And you know, it
wasn't always that way.
Speaker 2: The corporations were big and important like usually.
Speaker 1: Early on in the video game industry, it was toy
companies trying to come in and make the stuff, and
then it got really interesting when some scrappy, younger companies
came to the space. But there was always a huge
a scene of garage developers making stuff and that's where
a lot of the best stuff came from. And then
games made a lot of money so attracted the attention
of corporations, and over the decades it turned into what
it is, and now it's not enough for the corporation,
so they're trying to shift it and shape it into
this other thing where it all looks like their most
profitable products. And we're stubborn gamers. We're not really gonna.
We're not gonna, for the most part, change with that.
And I think they're realizing that, so they've lost interest.
And so we're just sitting here and being like, are
you gonna make the stuff that I want to play?
And are you gonna spend money on the stuff that
we want you to spend money on? And never the
twain shall meet, and what are we getting out of
a big corporation like Microsoft for sure, but also like
Sony being in the space and sort of losing interest
in making the kinds of stuff that we grew up
playing on their devices.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Instead you get for Horizon spinoffs, right, and
that's what Maybe if they may be a Blue Point
to pitch another Horizon Live Service game with a completely
different art style that looks like it has nothing to
do with the actual games. I just I just don't know.
I would love more info because it almost feels like
it's desperately needed here, like please make please help me
understand Sony, because it just seems like utter nonsense, like
you should be embarrassed to do this and have to
tell us about this. And I get it. Where a bubble,
most people know who own places, they don't know who
Bluepoint is, so the grand scheme of things, they will
get away with it, right, But you look absolutely pathetic
to me. Yeah you look cool. You look so fucking stupid.
You are going to have a problem here very soon
where you don't have enough big releases this quarter blah
blah show. It would be nice to have, you know,
something to fill that out. It's insane that we launched
the PlayStation five with Demon Soul's remake, which was great, right,
and then we got no other value out of Blue
Point because first we put them on a shitty stupid project,
or we let them be on a shitty stupid project,
and then we just shut them down. Just insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just going through these points, rising development costs. Yeah, okay,
I mean okay, but so.
Speaker 2: What is what is? What is? What is closing one
of your studios? Do to help that? Right?
Speaker 1: And and just like you know, set a modest budget
then like, like I don't know. One of the things
about remix is you can make remix on the cheap
for the most part, because a lot of the game
is there or done or designed, and you could kind
of take that in a day it and they can
make a ton of money without costing as much as
making a great game from the ground up. So I
just don't get that one, Like you know this studio, right,
if you don't do.
Speaker 2: A mimix it, do remasters? Get do the Resistance Trilogy
as a remaster. You don't have to remake that. Do
Infamous one and two is remasters? You know, Yeah, I
get it. Still relatively expensive, but hardly going to be
the most expensive project in like the top five, the
top ten happening at PlayStation s. It will be a
fiftieth of whatever budget they will give Naughty Dog to
do whatever the fuck they want. Yeah, I mean it'll
be like a quarter maybe half of a Concord like
and probably not nearly as much as that actually, so
I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, they had seventy people. It sounds like
for the most part at the studio, seventy people. That's
not a eight hundred person team. You know, you know,
they'll they'll spin up to hire external partners and stuff
like that, But yeah, that's not.
Speaker 2: That two XKO lost half of its team and still
has more people than that was eighty, right, Like, you
couldn't just let these people make games for love of
god that people would buy.
Speaker 1: A slowed industry growth Okay, yeah, you think the answer
to that is making fewer games, right exactly?
Speaker 2: Okay, you're listing problems with the game industry. Do you
want to get out? Like, what is your point about that? Then?
Are you going to the ones? Then? Yeah? What are
you talk? We talk?
Speaker 1: You stop making fucking Sony ViOS. So you're gonna go
back to that space. What are you talking about Like
that that is not a problem that is solved by
making fewer games. That is a problem solved by boldly
stepping forward and saying we are gonna make a bunch
of cool new games that get people excited.
Speaker 2: We will be the innovators.
Speaker 1: We will be the ones that do the next big thing,
and some of the ways that if Bluepoint's not gonna
be the ones who making those Blue points, Bluepoint will
be one of the studios that provides us a strong, strong,
solid footing to get people excited about the platform to
spend some money on our games. And it's just like,
there's no way that there would be an unprofitable big
remake from Bluepoint. All those games made money. I am sure, okay?
Changing player behavior are they is this? Are you just
rolling over and playing dead in the face of TikTok?
Are you rolling over and playing dead in the face
of Instagram reels? With people spending more time on social
something that feels like a ticking time bomb that is
going to break when people realize how much it has
hurt their their lives to be like in these dopamine loops,
and people will eventually find ways to break free from
that and be looking for something enriching and something familiar
and nostalgic, and PlayStation could be waiting for them, ready
to catch people when that happens, but they're cowards.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? And then changing broader economic headwinds.
It's this is also because of RAM was that there?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean just put Demon Souls out
on PC? At least, I mean they've made that game.
You haven't done that yet. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: That's the thing that like, that's the game that everybody
I wants on PC, and they're like refusing, completely ignoring
like their own like like people is crazy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know, this is very very frustrating.
Were of course, it just happens, and like I'm mad now,
and I don't want to be mad all the time.
So the next time there's a state of play, I'm
gonna get excited about PlayStation games all over again, because
I'd rather enjoy games than not. But I'm getting I'm
getting sick of, like every couple of weeks these companies
doing something that makes me hate the current video game industry,
and it does drive me more and more toward other
niche pockets that I can kind of just like be like, hey,
this is a little bit more like the good old days,
and that doesn't That's not just.
Speaker 2: Me putting my head in the sand.
Speaker 1: It is like, no, this is I think these people
can sustainably support this industry, and a company like Sony,
despite all its obvious success, doesn't think it can do that.
And I just I know where I want to spend
my efforts and my energy for the most part.
Speaker 2: Let me let me read this super Chad right now
from bespokenp. If you go back to when Bluepoint was acquired,
Marco Thrush said that Bluepoint didn't want to make any
more remakes. It's creative. Why would you want to make
nothing button remakes? You need to make better games, not
more I was trying to remember back when, but yeah,
I think I got the sculle at the time was like, oh,
like Bluepoint's gonna make original games. Now, maybe do you
think that's part of a Bluepoint? Is there a chance
that it was like, oh, please make remix and Bluepoint
with like, no, we don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not the way I'm hearing things, But
I don't know for sure, I mean, okay, but do
you think they go from I don't we don't want
to make nothing but remix anymore to you want to
make a God of War spin off that no one
actually is asking for.
Speaker 2: I really highly doubt that that is what they were
targeting about. It's so hard to imagine. Maybe I'm just
out of touch a flake. What gets gave DevOps excited
anymore these days? But you know, maybe, yeah, maybe they
thought they were going to make their own original ip,
right like it was like when Ben's studio got to
make The Order eighteen eighty five or whatever that was, right,
something like that, you know, at least, yeah, God, God,
let them do that. Oh this is yes, real, real,
eighteen eighty six, thank you. I should know. That's the
year Coca Cola was invented. Oh also also one hundred
years before I was one hundred years before my birth year. Okay, yeah,
there we go, yeah there, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They should do a sequel to eighteen eighty six The
Order with Mike Manatti and saving the formula for coke
or something.
Speaker 2: There you go, Yes, I would like that. Yeah, I don't,
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it does feel like Sony kind of is
still in the same limbo of live service games and
a handful of familiar things and then kind of letting
Naughty do do what Naughty Dog is gonna do. I
don't know, I just don't know how to feel about
this company before we move on from the story.
Speaker 2: Mike, I guess it's just I got to ask if
they feel so. I mean, you know, they have really
feels like the Four. They have the Big Four right now.
They have Naughty Thog, they have Insomniac, they have Gorilla
Games and Sucker Punch, and you know, you have uh
in Santa Monica I suppose, yeah, I got the Santa
Monica in there, and then the Astrobot team, which gosh,
I wonder what's it gonna be up to next, and
then like it's like beyond that even and that's six,
which yeah, that's those are six really strong studios. And
maybe I'm forgetting some things they have. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you have Button kind of because there's a multi platform.
But boy, it's like, which of these are like really
sacred and safe anymore? I do wonder you would think
that something's good positions, But I sure thought Blue Point
was in a good position yesterday. I thought there's even though, yeah,
it's been one since they got to make a game
because they had to close in that one. I never
thought the outcome of that was going to be closure. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you at least thought they were safe until
they released a game, a game under this regime, and
that is never gonna happen now, And it's baffling, and okay.
Speaker 2: It just is.
Speaker 1: This feeling I have now is a feeling I often
associate with this industry, and it's it's rough.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: I bet we're gonna keep getting super chats talking about this.
So let's get through the rest of these news stories
and then we'll come do those super chats to see
what people want to say. Uh yeah, Resident Evil Requiem
has leaked, so people should be mindful of spoilers. That's
most of the story here. It's it's a physical copy.
A handful of physical copies have shown up at retailers.
People are playing it early. Word is people seem to
be enjoying it, but they're also kind of like, hey,
there's some twisting turns here, but.
Speaker 2: It's Resident Evil.
Speaker 1: I always say that that franchise is about experience in
it and the journey, So it's going to be difficult
to spoil in a.
Speaker 2: Lot of ways. Yeah, I mean, you know, I I
would rather be unspoiled for sure. I'm trying to think
through all the other resieval games if there would ever
be like some plot development where I think snap Colls
Dumbledore thing. Yeah, there's not really quite like that usually. Yeah,
I may well just not even play anymore. If IERY
know that Leon turns into Joe Valentine through yeah, I
got I gotta buy it five times. So that's the case,
Jesus I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just keep an eye out on that, everybody.
The game's still not out until the twenty seven, so
we are a week away.
Speaker 2: We're a little bit more than a week away. Sean's
right in the chats more about moments being spoiled like
will Yeah, I would not want set pieces of spoiled.
I suppose necessarily get right in video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Chris punch that boulder, I will be really
really angry.
Speaker 1: Right exactly If the Gifts shirt start showing up of
very specific moments like that, that would be Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could see people being bummed out by that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just be on being alert beyond high guard,
which h I don't know what's going on with this
game at this point. They've updated and saying that, like
they have a roadmap still, but the website's been down,
so people have been worried.
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think the future of
High Guard is? It was kind of done when they came,
and you know, we knew that they have fire most
of the people because at that point, even the even
the kind of small group that was like into it
and trying to make it a thing, they're they're deflated
and they're done. Now it has I don't think you know,
it's like sub five hundred concurrent players right now. Yeah,
they're not coming back from that. It's it's it's it's done.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, that's that's kind of how I'm feeling.
I'm like, there was maybe an opportunity to thread that needle,
not not really anymore, and it's just it wouldn't be
worth the effort. Like who's going to show up and
like reinvest in that thing and give it the love
it needs to get back on its feet, let alone,
to become High Guard two point zero or something like that.
Speaker 2: It's might as well just scrap it and start and
try again. It's at one one hundred right now, which
is more than I would have thought. I suppose so,
but I just yeah, I just can't imagine how you
could possibly grow that now because they have as they
have a small oph team to do the basic amounts
of port and release some new things, maybe a character
every few months, right, because I know they introduced something
I don't even know us some new siege. I don't
know what a new siege means, but I think there's
a new siege. They can't turn it around at this point. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then Kristen Bell is gonna be the voice of
Amy and Sonic the Hedgehog four.
Speaker 2: Ben Schwartz posted something on social media confirming that, uh cool, Yeah,
it makes sense. Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. That's she's she's been an animated films before.
She's on A and Frozen. I don't know if you
know that, Mike, Now, And what's that? Yeah, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2: It's A. It's a feature film from the Disney Corporation. Uh,
not familiar with them.
Speaker 1: It's said that movie is coming out in March of
next year. And Kristen Bell I think is great. You know,
she's yea and she's got she's got a nice she
has a strong recognizable voice, very sweet sounding voice.
Speaker 2: Good for a character like Amy. So very yeah, that
will make that'll work out. Jess, Well, I forgot how
Spark two and I was just talking about Sony Studios
and the sure Grant Trisma one that makes grin Toismo games,
and they're pretty good at making Grind Tarismo games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Polyphony Digital Is that I was confused Polyphony and
Signosis in my head?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, yeah, both very PlayStation one adjacent.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely the standouts for PS one, especially Signosis. Jesus,
all right, that set up of what I want to
talk about. We're gonna take another break. Then let's talk
about what you all want to talk about in the
super chats. Will do that right after this. All right,
we're back. This is game Mess Decides. I'm Jeff Grubb.
That's Mike Manatti. Mike, you have super chats, please please
read them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cadillac, donn it says now that Blue Plant is closing.
Please speculate again why Bloodborne demonsuls remaking Grant Tarismo aren't
on PC. Easiest money ever, Man, I forgot Grind Trisma
isn't on PC, that's insane. Uh boy, I don't know
about that. And demonsils remake. That's so confus because again
Sony just owns that. I mean, they own Bloodborn as well.
I don't know. It seems like Sony is maybe very
delicate about the relationship with from Software and they don't
want to do things kind of without their blessing. And
for some reason they think they think from Soft may
not be that into it. And I suppose, I don't know.
The Grant Trisma one, Yeah, that's that's insane. Put Grand
Trisma seven on PC tomorrow. I would play it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Bloodborne like I said forever ago, you're right,
from does not want them to do that, and Sony
does know that whether or not, like like you know,
Sony still I think could do it without from Software,
But I bet that it's I don't know. I would
have bet that at this point. I'm speculating. So this point,
this is all speculation.
Speaker 2: Going forward.
Speaker 1: My guest there would be that there's no point for
Sony to upset from Software by going forward and doing
something that they don't want them to do, because they
probably do want to work with from Software again one day,
you know, and from Software has shown a willingness state
they've worked with Activision, they're working with goddamn Nintendo. Sony
probably does not want to be on the outs with
them in any way. So Bloodborne just does not seem
like it's gonna happen. Demon Souls that one, obviously, that
feels like water under the bridge between those two. So yeah,
why not put that on PC? You already remade it?
And Grand Trismo is a weird one, like I like,
I heard recently that Grand Turismo was running on the
switch to. I don't think it's going to come to
the switch too, but I heard it was running on
the switch to, So it's like, man, that's weird. Okay, cool,
but just put it on PC then, Like, if you're
considering switch to, obviously PC must be a no brainer.
Speaker 2: Still not on the PC weird Next up is James Pies.
Have you seen or heard about the in game crane
machine gag in High on Life two? Definitely worth a
Google search? Love the trophy slash achievement name two. Okay,
this better be a links Awakening reference. That's all I'm
gonna say. If we're doing oh, that'd be great, right, Okay,
Craney the Yoshi doll in there? Yeah, yeah, High on
Life two Crane game. Oh my god. Oh it's a
Fraser reference. It's a Fraser reference of some kind of apparently.
Oh I'm happy for you. Oh my god. It's called
the Cranmey Machine. There's literally a picture of Fraser and
it kind of looks like, yeah, okay, good, it's a
Fraser reference. Why is it?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Where's Marish? Yeah? Are you trying to get her out
of there?
Speaker 3: I've been hearing a little good things. How about that video?
I might check it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people shouldn't like it. I hear better things about
it than like its average review score would lead me
to believe, right, yeah, like that's only seventy four. But
then I hear people be like I really liked it.
I Oh okay, I think once that's like yeah exactly.
It's like if it's funny, that it's really funny to people.
So yeah. The next one is from lex Letty. Hey,
everything seems bad and stupid. Huh yeah, yeah, everything's pretty
bad and stupid. I think it's a hit putting it, Lexie.
I think it's like the universe is leading it up
to us to go look into spaces that are not
bad and stupid, because our natural spaces have been so
corrupted by bad and stupid that we have to sort
of put in some effort to find anything that isn't
Big jimb O' Ryan on vacation law says, okay, fell
let's mask off fucks. Theny, this ship won't be happening
if I was still in charge. My goat is washed.
They could have remade classics or be a double fine
like studio making small games. But no, I just if
you make video games. I just don't know why you
would close a good video game studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if the choices between work with them
to find out a game that you both want to
be made into a reality versus closing them, I don't
just do the work. Do the work to find out
find an agreement so that you're both happy with the game.
Speaker 2: Is there some chance that, I mean, can this be
like a choice for Bob's thing. Can there just be
some independent thing that happens instead Back when they bought
the studio, I assume there's a big payday for whoever
owned at the time. Can they just reform it as
something else now and become work for hire again or
just make their own stuff. I don't know. I'm trying
to imagine probably possible for a happy ending somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, it's I think it's
gonna be sort of a smaller team from that core
group goes on and makes something that is like a
technical expertise studio that will that will be in demand
no matter what. So yeah, they'll probably go on and
find something. And you're right, they a lot of the
people who were there when they got acquired, many of
them across the board will probably have stock that's vesting,
and they'll probably have quite a bit of money, but
maybe not everybody, and hopefully everyone is able to land
on their feet.
Speaker 2: I don't know about a happy ending. No, we'll see that. Boy,
Jerrius is more like Jim crying and Herman holsted by
his own petard. Thanks for making anything worse. If you're
bs trend chasing fair Games is next, right, it's boy.
Sure didn't think that Blue Point would be shut down
before fair Games. Yep, it's uh, it's weird, you know.
Speaker 1: I still like still think like they're just like waiting
for the right time to cancel fair Games, which is insane.
Speaker 2: Benjo KAZUOI sixty fours is sending out good vipes everyone
at Blue Point H and F Jim Ryan, hope you
guys have a good weekend. Are we maybe boogeymanifying Jim
Ryan too much at this point that we're still kind
of holding him responsible for these things? I mean, obviously
he said a lot of things in motion here for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he can get some of the
of the blame for sure, But uh, he's not the
reason the studio closed down at this point, Like there,
you know, he's not the one that was not green
lighting whatever they were pitching in the last year or two.
Speaker 2: Astro Fans says, you two and GB crew are nearly
daily highlights and a real shit time for most everything.
So thank you. Are the nes Back to the Future
games blight worthy? They aren't good. I remember the I
remember the Sega Genesis Back to Future three was really bad.
It's also it's also kind of like a mini game
collection from what I recall, So they're definitely bad. Maybe
maybe you could blightening round bomb I hesitate to say,
but yeah, there weren't any good Back to the Future
games until the Telltale one that is for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, we weren't like talking like at some point Jeff
Backlar needs to be blighted again. He was such a
good uh uh like target for Gilligan's Island. Maybe if
we have another like charity stream or something, or another bombathon,
maybe that would be a good time to like bring
out back to the future for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really good. That went back to the
future like music minigame though the one time back on
a yes U K pit o K pit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was remember that. That was that was impressive. Yes,
I remember that quite quite well.
Speaker 2: Uh okay. Next up here is from limb bright Grub.
You talking about what your dad did on the BombCast
made me realize there's a good chance our dads have
inneractic as Scenerymind also sold plastic in the Michigan, Ohio
area during then It's yeah, it's quite possible.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's not a not actually a huge industry for sure.
Recently he's been like in like as he was kind
of getting older, he worked in a job where they
were making train ties, like the thing that would tie
the track down to the ground, and there was like
a composite rubber plastic like thing.
Speaker 2: That was supposed to be cheaper and more durable and
all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for most of his career, I remember, just like,
I think he works in plastic like that, that was
my understanding of it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it sounds like a sitcom debt. Not you
sick on that, but like the sitcom teenage boys best
friend's dad's job. He works in plastics, right exactly?
Speaker 1: Yes, or well there's that one movie where it's like plastics,
the future is plastics. It's also a possibility that he
was an assassin and he just had a really bad
cover story and I bought the cover story.
Speaker 2: Like, so I'm choosing to believe that one. Did you
ever see him at work? Did you ever let go?
You know, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think I knew where his office was or anything
like that now, But it's not like I would. I
would never have any reason to go to his office,
like during the day, Like you know, my mom was
usually home if we needed something.
Speaker 2: So sure, did he have like friends from work or
anything that he talked about.
Speaker 1: Or he had some people he golfed with. I don't
know if there were any people from work. It was like, okay,
neighbors and stuff. He would golf with, Yeah, okay, very interesting,
It is very interesting.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the bottom of it. And Tolio Morale says, Hey,
what the fuck me looking at blue point is? Yeah? Yeah,
it was posted in chat while we were doing voice
Bail dub truck and I like hate interrupting that chill
Viaga news, but I had to be like, uh, you
guys see this, that's wild, how strange? Yep, what the
fuck indeed think? Goblin says, how do the people that
decide to make a bunch of single player game studios
make liceres games get paid so much lives are ruined
for a lotter ticket? Yeah, it turns out executives don't
have to pay for their own mistakes. They just fired
and other people instead, which is a great system.
Speaker 1: In fact, the specific get paid a lot of money
to not care about that, not to not care about
the fact that a bunch of people could lose their jobs,
make big bets and try to get the biggest return
possible and yeah if they if they fail, they can
blame economic headwinds and changing player behaviors and a bunch
of other jerk off shit.
Speaker 2: Zombie Porn says that jurf meat looks more like Jeff
than Jeff does. Very true. Yes, Abby did an amazing
job making the me versions of us for our brand
new Marry Me Tomadacci Life show over at Giant Bond.
First episode of us making those piece of us of
Abby making those up now, please check out every when
we had a really good time with that. It was
super fun. Taco bell And says, Haha, this sucks. Blue
Point deserved better. Yeah, yeah, I'm just yeah, I'm just
gonna be so curious to learn more about this. I
played that Demon Soul's remaking very recently and I loved it.
I thought it was great. I know there's like some
from Soft Puris and you some people say it was
shout of the closet toours, like, oh, so it loses
a little bit of the artistic essence of the original.
I get that. I was never too bothered by it.
I still like the remakes a lot.
Speaker 1: It's definitely just a very specific thing where it's like, yeah,
people feel like it maybe rubbed off some of the
rough edges that they grew to love.
Speaker 2: Sure, and that's how I felt about Shadow of the Colossus.
Speaker 1: I would always just play the original but I'm glad
the remake existed and got a lot more people to
try those games.
Speaker 2: Harrow for lifecens. My oh, no, I missed one here
from Missouri Matt who says, why don't we get drunk?
This is another Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1: Sir, I'm seeing in the quotation marks, and now I'm
starting to learn. Did you get the one from Chuck Towski?
Speaker 2: I know I saw I miss that too, Chuck Towski says,
my two bear dads. Right, that's right. I don't wear
a tank top for the first time in maybe twenty
years yesterday for something I had to I'm working on. Yeah, yeah,
details later, But I haven't worn it ticked up in
a long time because of the Harry shoulders and it
was just a strange feeling having went on on. Yeah,
I bet yeah, especially I haven't worn one for such
a long time. Okay, good A long time years and
your arst okay uh haro for life says my thor
arrived at is all in love you guys? Have you
been using your ans thor at all? I don't know
where I put it. I don't want to talk about that.
You lost it. It's not lost, that's just strong word.
All right.
Speaker 1: I haven't looked for it because I've been busy. I
we've been playing games for reviewing, say with your dad
at work. Then I'll never see it again.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you had a childhood? Did you just
kind of pop out of the pod. It's like this
may with this bearded hair, with false memories. I yet
they could be implanted. I won't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put anything past this government. Did you
do this Taco bell Mount one?
Speaker 2: Taco? Yes, I did do that one. Okay, Matt Rare monkey,
says Jake Solomon's Midsummer Studios closed today. Two okay, I
didn't see that one. Uh. I don't know too much
about what they were working on. You get, oh, this
this is the Xcon guys studio, right, Jake Solomon? Yeah, okay, weird, weird, Okay, jeez,
it is rough video games. It is raining games right now? Nope,
no guy. Yeah, it feels like not that long ago
that I was thinking, everyone's investing, everyone's investing, and boy
that dried up, and you know, sometimes trying to see
what they happen forever. But boy, do I wonder what
the turnaround is here exactly? Uh? And sometimes it's hard
to just not imagine. It's like indie games are just
video games as far as I'm concerned anymore. Uh, the
Nintendo's Nintendo. It's hard to imagine. They wrapped up yeah,
a little different rain see. Vincent says Weltriss was an
actual sequel to tel that's a call. Pet and Blue
Point did an amazing port of titan Fall Textbus three sixty.
That's a lament. That's right, right that they were just
really technically sound and impressive. Again, I can't believe there's
no work to figure out for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like, I bet there's gonna be a
lot of fucking work downgrading all of their fucking PS
five games for the handheld PS six.
Speaker 2: In a little bit.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice to have a studio that knows how
to do that around crazy stuff and uh yeah now
that you remember, now that I remember, Yeah, well, trist
it was like looking down into the well from the top.
Speaker 2: It was. It was weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I think that one was actually made by
a Pageantov.
Speaker 2: What's his name, Alexei Pachantov. Yeah, I think so. Okay,
Now jd Campus's Mike, did you forget Mermaid Princess is
a minor. I did not choose Mermaid princess. And look,
it's not Ario, it's Mermaid Princess. This is a distinct
and different person, not my idea. Characters can age like
this is a thirty five year old Mermaid prince. Yeah
that was Aiden. Look I would have said April O'Neil
or Betty Rubble, okay, but I missed that. I missed
that day. And apparently instead of being like, well, just
text Mic or have him do when it comes back
in the like one month, will have until I have
to do the show, they're like, well, just what Dan
decided right now?
Speaker 1: To be fair, I think we did like ping you
in the discord when it was happening, but you were
very busy and then we did not remind you.
Speaker 2: So a little bit column a, a little bit of columbe
mm hmmm. Mariah Carris his favorite Whitney Houston song, I
don't like anybody, just like Mariah Carey. Just in case
this is Mariah Carey. I'm trying to get in on
the ground floor here. I always love you. So it's
one of the best songs. Yeah, I don't know how
anything I know that I know, that's.
Speaker 1: I know, that's so. What's her name? She's got a
theme park that we want to go to. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dolly Parton wrote wrote, I Will Always Love You,
But Whitney Houston.
Speaker 2: That's Whitney Houston song. Yeah for a movie actually, which
is a movie nobody really saw, but everyone liked the
song from it.
Speaker 1: I watched it a few years ago because I've always
been curious, and I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 2: The Buddy, the Bodyguard, Yeah, the Bodyguard. Yeah. Coddy Bishop says,
can't wait for more milk toasts, bland generic, non inspiring
Horizon games. The Horizons will continue until morale m peruse
and it's why I think so of what Chat said, like, hey,
that Horizon VR game and Horizon Lego or Lego Horizon
did not sell well, so they're able to rate those off.
I don't. Yeah, you know, I'm taking the Chatfritz word there,
but short of it seemed to me like Lego Horizon
popped off in any meaningful way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just such, I mean, continues to be one of
the most weird and baffling games to get made in
the last long.
Speaker 2: While yeah, did they give like any sales info on
Lego Horizon And I don't know, but I thought it
was some big cat even though it was on the switch.
Its weird, YEP got the PDIA box says similar to
film studios, do game publishers get significant R and D
tax breaks for closing studios and canceling projects? Is this
wilely e cood versus acme?
Speaker 1: Uh? I mean, yeah, they will be able to do
some tax judo to save some money doing this. But
it's like, I don't know, they had a nineteen percent
increase in profits.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not hurting.
Speaker 1: I just like Warner Brothers when they were doing that,
they had a ton of debt to service like they were,
they have a huge debt payment they have to make
all the time. So it's like you can kind of
see why they're looking for every angle to make money
right now. PlayStation, I mean, I guess maybe the wider
sony puts them in a weirder position because PlayStation and
I guess their life insurance business in Japan are like
the two things that make money for them and everything
else is a drag.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: PlayStation has been growing so much that it just at
a certain point. I know enough is never enough, but
I don't know. I can't imagine that being the real reason.
Speaker 2: Next up is from a cratis. I'm a single parent
this weekend with the wife out on a trip. Thanks
for keeping me company. Well, I wrangled this four year old.
What video game should I intro? Uh? If? Yeah? Nice?
Maybe Astropod if you got show them they see if
they get into like Stardoo Valley right, like, hey, look
we got a farm here. I don't like just you know,
like obviously if you show if you show a four
year old Minecraft or Rowblocks, so they'll yeah, they'll get
into it. But let's, you know, let's just see if
we can don't find that on their own, Let's see
what we can get. You can do here? Yeah, I
like that. We did Bespoke. We just filled in with
a be says sad to see Bluetooth shut down. I
was working with the one who wants to be a
millionaire remake. What a bummer. And then there's another one here,
Blue Point. Sorry, I'm not Bluetooth. And it's all right,
film man, you don't worry about it. We appreciate your
patronage in god what sense, seems like Japan still knows
how to make games. Capcom, Square, Nintendo, Banda, Namco, Sega,
now E, Konomi. Sony has been more Western focus, right,
and I mean fair Square has had its issues. They
make good games, but they have issues kind of still
bringing some things together, as all of them do. Capcom
and Konami have been doing pretty well. Later you know,
Capcom has you know, fumbled a little bit with Monster Hunter, right,
so yeah, these things cannoppen. Yeah, I really it bums
me out that Sony did go kind of all in
on the Western studio stuff. I think closing Japan studios
really kind of cut out a large part of the
DNA of what PlayStation meant to me and what it
meant when you know, it was at its best. I
don't think that's just an old man thing to say
PlayStation was it's most interesting during PS one and PS two. Yeah, No,
I don't think it's wrong.
Speaker 1: I think what happened is, uh, the these a lot
of these companies work themselves into a shoot a little bit.
Where there was a time from like two thousand and
five to like twenty thirteen where despite you know, the
Internet getting freaked out and mad every time anyone points
it out. Japanese developers were struggling a little bit to
kind of figure out HD gaming, and then what they
did was they learned, got better and built sustainable ways
of making these games for the most part, and I
think in the West they just took it as like, well,
we're just better and we'll always be better and kind
of rested on their laurels. Yeah, and the laurels laurels
and yeah, and it kind of led to a situation
now where they're like, well, obviously, if we just keep
making games the way we do, we're gonna be the best,
and it's gonna we'll make them bigger and more bombastic,
because that's actually how we stood out in those early
generations of HD gaming. We just made games that were
bigger and more expensive than anything else. And now make
it stuff that's bigger and more expensive. It's this massive risk.
So they all have to be live service games so
they can have infinite profit margins and yeah, and in
the meantime, Japan was like, we're gonna we're just gonna
learn how to make these games in a way that
is efficient and smart, and now they are, that's paying
dividends and a lot, and Sony going like, hey, we're
turning our attention to the West and kind of doing
things the.
Speaker 2: Western way has really backfired.
Speaker 1: I mean, despite the fact that they're very profitable and
very successful, it just doesn't feel that way because it
feels like it's with all these caveats.
Speaker 2: So here now Brandy Brandy says this question is for
Mike only. Mike, i'mbout the final boss of Dragon Quests
eight and the three DS. Are you proud of me? Yes?
But only if you Joe broke your three DS to
put the orchestrated music back into Of course the game.
I did fall off Dragon Quest eight just because not
nothing of the game itself feels very good. I just
kind of fell off, and instead of going back at
this point, I know they're going to remake dragon Quest
eight again, or you know, make some version of that
available in this way too, and that's when I will
just start dragging Quest eight over again. Still pretty pretty
deep into seven. Hope, maybe I'll be finishing that one
up this weekend finally, and then either going to jump
into Dragon Quest two. Actually I kind of want to
check out that caves of cud, caves of cut that list.
Oh yeah, I would love this.
Speaker 1: I would love to watch that. If you're gonna do
that kind of I bet that's a me kind of game.
So I want to see someone play that.
Speaker 3: I know, Mike, is this orchestrated music? The races one
or the other way around?
Speaker 2: The racist one? Well the guy yes, well, I mean
either way, it's his compositions. The cut. Yeah. The guy
who did the Dragon Quest music is like a very
hardcore Japanese nationalist. Jeff Yeah. Yeah, he's a lot of
nice person.
Speaker 1: All right, that's that's kind of fun. That's look, if
you're going to be a nationalist, go for it. Be
a Japanese nationalist. Speaking of orchestrators, orchestrators is not the
right word composers.
Speaker 2: I don't think I mentioned this on any of the shows.
You see that.
Speaker 1: Christopher ten did a new finale for that the most famous,
most famous unfinished symphony of all time. Uh uh, turn
dot yeah, I think it's turn dot.
Speaker 2: Uh. He did that for a Japanese figure skater.
Speaker 1: And this is the guy that did Baba Yatu and
Sam scores and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: Stuff, and everyone who are all these people are huge
fans of this very famous symphony are saying he's done
an excellent job of actually doing like a better job
than the person who originally finished the symphony in the
first place.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, that's my boy, you go ten.
I do believe the person who could posed Baba yet
you could do anything he puts his mind to. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I bet it didn't send me back down a hole
of like listening to all his all his music. He's
done so much good stuff now and showed up for
Sieve six and Sieve seven.
Speaker 2: It's all just so good. I wonder when, uh, because
like I know Sif seven's had some updates, but I
don't think like the turnaround has happened yet. I wonder when,
like it gets the big expansion or something and then
first or second spansion that'll be when that happens. You're right,
all right, t next one here is from Big Fresh.
You all seen Shadowstone yet early Access Layer. This year
they're taking the assets and ideas behind Sunderfolk and making
a more traditional game that makes sense. That's cool as
Thunderfolk is obviously, you know, perhaps limited and how many
people are willing to play a game like that. This
looks more Okay, this is a roguelike. This is a
roguel like. Interesting. Okay, yeah that would work really easily. Okay, yeah,
very cool. Next up is Outer Heaven hear me out everyone.
Instead of Bloodborne remake, we get a Kingsfield remake.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that'd be super cool'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: But they are even like, you know, Kingsfield compilation, like
because I wouldn't mind just playing those games as PS one,
s PS two, s games. Yeah, make a compilation of
all four Kingsfield and some of those other adjacent games
that they made. So there's so many things out here
that we could do. Instead of getting studios to do them,
we just close them down and expected digital Digital eclips
to do everything for us. And then right right, you know,
there's only so much a few of these studios can do.
Uh yep, Marcus Relli, it says birthday, tax posts, snow day,
canceled school and as such, my yacatory lunch date, after
noon delight with the misses, but hopefull got YouTube fellas. Yeah,
you don't need your wife when you have us, that's right, Yeah,
kick her to the curb, send her outside, and you
got to listen to your boys on the internet.
Speaker 1: Glad at least enjoy the snow day. I still enjoy
snow days, even if it's just my kids off school.
Got an Idiocracy fan here. His name is Welcome to Costco.
I love you, says, check out the trailer for Become.
I have seen this, Jeff. This is the sperm game.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is the game where you become like yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
I get it. I I know. I look at some
of these screenshots and I hope that this is an
evo like for the snees, but I don't know if
that's exactly what it's going for. I kind of wanted
to be a metro van. I want. I wanted to
be like the inwards of a of a female. Of
the Female.
Speaker 1: Anatomy is a confusing maze where you get lost and
have to blast your way through walls.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I don't know what to expect
from it. Big Frush thirty seven says, following Yahoo anime
rules here, but did you remember to tell Mikey about
the paper mache head? Right?
Speaker 1: So I think the idea is that we're going to
put Dan in a paper mache I forget what the
game was that we were going to have him play now.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh yeah, oh yeah, yes right. Uh the idea
is for you to punish him. Now.
Speaker 1: The reason I have brought up to Mike is Mike's
got to decide on his own what he wants to do,
like to get back at Dan, if he even wants to,
which I don't know if he does.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, the Funko Pop. Uh? Was it the
turn based game, the turn based like shooter like strategy game.
Just a pop game?
Speaker 1: I assume, yeah, just a funko pop game and have
him wear a paper mache head of a Funko Pop
or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, people wanted, how are we going to get the
can you make those? Paper mache is famously something that
like children make? Yes? Okay, okay, interesting, famously something children.
Speaker 1: I don't know any adult that's made a paper machey.
Yeah you should. Yeah, you picked up on it. Okay,
I'm probably clear.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get into an arts and crack project
to get back at Dan. All right. I guess it'd
be kind of funny if, like we could use the
black Club rules to force him to make a paper mache.
Would he just wouldn't, Yeah, because he would have want to.
We don't know how it actually works. If he wanted
be to do it and I didn't want to do it,
somehow I would do it was the other way around.
We know how this works, We get it. You know
how it works. Yep. Johnny Boy says, Zelda's fortieth is
in two days. Anything happens, Uh, Nintendo today, Apple update
on your phone and say we love Zelda. I mean,
is randomly announcing things here this next one I was saying. Now,
Jedi Moss for says Xeno blaite X at forty K
sixty ff is pretty fun. So yeah, just today they
randomly announced and dropped that Zeno Blade Chronicles X switched
to update. We were all wondering where I was at,
and here it is. So it's nice to get that.
You know. Of course it doesn't necessarily mean like oh
is They're not going to be a direct where you
could have thrown this in necessarily, so yeah, they could
just screw stuff out there. It's weird to imagine they're
going to be like afropos of nothing. Win Wicker is
coming to switch to again and separately version you already
had in Japan. Yeah. Yeah, So are you gonna check
out Zeno Blade X again? Now that's got that update,
I am going to. Yes, I want to.
Speaker 1: All the switch To versions have been so impressive for
the most part, and that's still kind of winning me over,
so I probably will.
Speaker 2: I might whirl it up one more time. I fell
off it relatively quickly, and performance wasn't the only issues,
so I don't if I'm really gonna stick around. But
before it was a big one, especially since I knew
the switch To his coming, I was kind of like,
I don't know if I want to play a twenty
frames per second switch game anymore. Yeah, exactly, Like Michael R.
O'Leary says, Mike, you got to stop assuming things about movies.
Long the Bodyguard was a mega hit. Aladdin is the
only movie that did better.
Speaker 3: To say, that's kind of crazy because I thought it
was like a super popular movie.
Speaker 1: I don't think I did. That was not my read
when Mike was saying that. My read was like, no
one's talked about it since then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the cultural impact of the Bodyguard beyond
that song. In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six. Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like Kevin Coster holding it, but it's the
cover of the movie, which, like I again, that doesn't
really qualify having an impact.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Look if I if I, if I
unfairly maligned The Bodyguard as an unpopular movie, I apologize.
I had no idea did that well honestly, so Look
it was news to me. I don't know. I was
I was six, you know it was huge. Why do
you why do you care about or know about the
popularity of the Bodyguard in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3: I have a TV and like our own I don't know.
Speaker 2: Luca up stuff The Bodyguard.
Speaker 5: I live in a society Mike with the Bundyguards about
times if you have made that movie is about aside
from the fact that it must be about a bodyguard,
I got nothing for you.
Speaker 2: It is. It's I mean, that's it. It's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: Someone wants to hurt her because she's so famous and
popular and good, and Kevin Costner is her kind of
like normy bodyguard and she falls in love with him
because he's just so good at bodyguard and of course
he has a dark past. He always has a dark past.
It's Kevin dry Land is not a myth.
Speaker 2: He's seen it. Apparently it reviewed poorly. That's interesting, okay,
But yeah, I just I.
Speaker 1: Don't think the movie it does not have a large
cultural footprint beyond the song.
Speaker 2: The song is right there, you go. I apologize. Bodyguard
Hex mikel Zombie Porn says, so, like, what is the
future of Western game development like indie games and stuff
propped up by ten Cent in Saudi Arabia like e
a O. Who knows? Can't predict the future, right? Uh?
You see you saw Saudi Arabia now completely owns uh evo.
I think that happened today as well, which yeah, I
mean that can't be the future forever, I suppose, Uh,
who knows. I don't know if there's gonna ever be
some big crash Chigain and all gets built back up
once again like it happened in the eighties, because we're
still kind of still on that trajectory, right, It's where
is where we've been at. We've seen some players go away,
some hang around somehow, like Ubisoft, when you think they
would have been dead ten times over by now. Yeah,
I don't know if like the big changes still coming.
I think there's still a shittification of things in the
Triple A space, even though we get good Triple A
games still sure, but it just it feels different. Yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, it definitely feels like it's a slow.
Speaker 1: Moving crash right right, like a very slow moving crash,
where like the momentum of the industry and the spending
of the industry kind of just carries it forward regardless
because people are still spending a.
Speaker 2: Lot of money on this hobby.
Speaker 1: It's just not as much money in certain areas as
these companies expected, and they put a lot of money
on that stuff, and that's hurting their bottom lines and
their stock prices, so it gets treated like some massive
tragedy and then they cut a bunch of jobs in
response to that so they can.
Speaker 2: Save their profit margins.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's a it's a gross industry right now,
and it's I do wonder what it looks like on
the other side of this, But really, I think we
can have no idea.
Speaker 2: It has to go through this metamorphosis in a painful way.
Next up as Hex prof Mikey don't play Drunkuism this weekend,
Clean House. Look'm gonna clean my house. But also Dranquesum
is what I play in bed? That's not tacking up?
Tell me, tell me don't play Overwatch this week. And
that's the real issue with that.
Speaker 1: That's that's sitting up time, which could be standing up
and cleaning time, laying down time.
Speaker 2: That doesn't qualify. Yeah, at no point, I'm not gonna
like get out of bed, be like you know what,
I'm gonna do the dishes right and then Zobie Farrne
never get out of the head. Zobbie Porn says. Also,
is that Battle Golf game on Steam any good? I
have not played or seen this one myself. You don't know.
I can't remember. Do we did we play this? Uh?
Maybe not? If not, we will play it soon.
Speaker 1: Super Battle Golf is that what we're talking about. I'll
look into it all this did? Yeah, this just came out. Okay,
you know, I'll download it right now and I'll let
you know on next BombCast.
Speaker 2: Cool. I have any other Super Chats? Nope, nope. I
I've been looking at so many other top grossing nineteen
ninety two moves to see where this body Guard at
number two thing is coming from. Because there's Batman Returns,
Leath the Weapon three, Sister A Chawaynes World, Basic Instinct,
Home Alone two. Leagler owned that most of these list
seems like it did better, but I don't know. Maybe
it's an international versus domestic thing that I'm looking at,
not that I'm stuck on this or anything to say that.
Speaker 3: The real question is why do you care so much
of that movie? It's more popular than you thought of.
Speaker 2: Well, I just I think Michael, I think he came
out and be kind of hard there, like, oh, my listener,
the tuckle fuck is speaking up about stuff he doesn't
know about it, again, saying that by Guards a second
gross grossing movie, but domestically it was thirteen two behind
Patriot Games. The Hand that Rocks.
Speaker 1: The Cradle did better. What the hell is fair? Okay,
to be fair, so you're probably onto something. Internationally, it
made two hundred and eighty nine million dollars, which is
more than double what it made domestically, and.
Speaker 2: Back then that's crazy, that's nuts. So that's I mean,
that's Whitney Houston being a global superstar. That's quitible power.
Speaker 3: Michael Gary only said that you should probably stop assuming
things about movies because you kind of all are always
wrong about it.
Speaker 2: I think it's always wrong as.
Speaker 3: Wrong, but you missed more than your hit. Let's be honest,
what is this?
Speaker 2: What is this? What do I even talk about movies?
I hate movies, That's exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna agree with them because you're getting
mad in a funny way now, So it's time. It's
time to do that thing. Sorry, Mike, That's just how
it goes sometimes.
Speaker 2: Man, all right, team with a super chat here says
what is the Nintendo? What is it that Nintendo's being
so different from plastation Xbox that they're not laying off
to the people love the show? Well, they have people
make video games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they like have trained their audience to be
like a game can look like Mario Tennis Fever and
it can be seventy bucks and for the most part
people will listen. There's maybe more complaining about it now
than there's ever been. There's also still a lot of
people poning up that cash and buying those.
Speaker 2: Games also, so they are making games a lot cheaper and.
Speaker 3: It's way harder to fire people over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I mean that that.
Speaker 1: Their answer to that is they hire slowly then right,
so yes, higher up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who they hire, how they hire, how they train
their people, like the career that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yep, so yeah, I mean be nice if we still
had some labor laws. That's not an option, all right, Uh,
that does the super chats, right, Mike.
Speaker 2: Yes, but if you want to send anymore and we
will read the before the end of the show, even
if you want to throw that Bodyguard. I don't know
fear about the Bodyguard man, Okay, well i'll man. Sister Act.
Speaker 1: That's a movie that had a little bit more of
a cultural impact than uh than Bodyguard.
Speaker 2: That one, I do belie. Yeah, I'm I'm not surprised.
I don't know the Sister Act is. Even when I
was a kid, who ever saw Sister Act. People should
have talked about Sister Act all the time. Never heard
one goddamn daughter around me talk about The Bodyguard. I
was there. I lived in nineteen ninety two. Everyone's talking
about all these other movies on there. I remember people
talking about Basic Instinct, even Patriot Games, White Man Can't
Jump made less than the Bodyguard. Sure heard a lot
more about that and Fried Green Tomatoes. The last Mohikin's
an unforgiven.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, Everybodyay love, all right, we're back, Mike.
Speaker 2: Grab a hat. Oh, I got a hat, everybody. It's
an Arby's hat. And if you don't know, there are
a lot of paper here with a thing ran on them.
It's something that's going to fit into the sentence. What
is the best blank ever? Many of you learn about
video games, but some aren't. You've been taking the community suggestions.
I think right, you said that's right. The community has
the community, the community one Jimmy, the Chimney community has
helped to me fill the hat out. So we got
got some fun goodies inside this hat, starting with gotta
shake it up real good. All right, get a good
one here? Well, I like this one, Okay, Well, stuck
in the sticky parts, gotta unfurrow it. What is the
best duck of all time? There's there's no good ducks, right, Mike.
There's a lot of good ducks. And I was always
on the daffy side as a kid. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, I'm like, Donald's too popular too,
that's too.
Speaker 2: Vanilla to be in the Donald. Daffy's got a better
like like between the angry ducks. I think daffies is
it's more real. It's but I really love Donald. Now,
well there's two daffies because he started off just kind
of zany and wacky and like insane basically you know,
jump brown over the place. Then he became he was Daffy. Ye,
the angry are always mad, a loser, Daffy Dougle Which
Daffy did you like?
Speaker 1: That would have been mine as a kid, because I
would have seen a lot more of the angry ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the one who's like doing rapid season
Duck season. Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah, definitely. Yeah, I
did like that that The day the Earth blow up
movie was zany Daffy again, it was kind of neat.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was good, but I did enjoy that. Yeah.
I like Duck Dodgers as well. The N sixty four
games specifically, it's actually it's better than its reputation.
Speaker 2: It looks really nice. It's a good looking game. Uh look,
I'm not going to allow the answer to be anything
but Donald Duck or Scrooge Micduck.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I think I would want to go
with Donald. I love Scrooge too, but something about it
makes me feel like Donald should be the answer here.
Speaker 2: I do like screw Duck a lot. Donald's very though,
I mean I like dark dark with Duck's good. He's
he keeps teasing a com back like he was in
the Theftail Show, but not much happen there, and then
he like kind of shows up here and there. I
think he is in that trip of Doe thing, like,
stop teasing me about duck wing already. Either bring him
back or let me forget At this point, what about
Louis not huing and doing go to hell? Give me
just Louis. Louis Duck. Just just just the green one.
That's the only one you're interested in Louis specifically. Sure, Yeah,
I just picked. Well you didn't know. I don't know.
Oh yeah, I know that Louie's a green one and
he's the red one and he's the blue one. Piece
of shit. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was too busy sleeping in a big bag
with my wife to know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, best duck of all times, Donald Duck,
All right, don't worry one graculate anymore? Donald, how about
the mighty Ducks? Now? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Maclin Celebrini is the best duck of all time?
Hell yeah, all right, got a video game one here,
He's a shark.
Speaker 2: Never mind, what did I say? He's not even the
right goddamn team? What is or should I say? Who
is the best Sonic friend of all time? Okay?
Speaker 1: I don't really like, like know any of their interactions
with Sonic. All this is just based on looking at
them and like promotional art because I have never dove
any deeper than that.
Speaker 2: And I've always liked Big the Cat.
Speaker 1: I think Big the Cat is great, but I don't
know if that is an acceptable answer.
Speaker 2: I just I've always had a hard time acknowledging anyone
beyond tails or knuckles Big the Cat. My issue with
Big the Cat is like they portray him as kind
of dumb and slow in a way that is kind
of offensive. Of almost these days that very old is
that very old cartoon trope like south Park kind of
made fun of it. It's with some of those I
don't know if you saw those episodes like TIPG where
they got a cat and it's like all those cartoon kids,
that's all they were really Now he knows, it is
kind of like I don't know if if I like
listening to Big the Big the Cat talk anymore.
Speaker 1: It's big cat problematic, weirdly problematic toward I'm not exactly
sure cats, but yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 2: Is it just tails? It feels so basic? Yeah, I
think he flies the plane school he flies a plant
is design school. I like that he has the two tails,
like his name is also.
Speaker 1: Miles Prower and fine Miles Prowers. It is fun. It's
nickname is tails. It's weird that is his Christian name
is Miles Prower and his nickname is tales.
Speaker 2: I guess that was also would also.
Speaker 1: Be weird that was his real name because he does
two tales, Like, I think your mom's name wasn't tails.
Speaker 2: I get rid of all the other ones, even like knuckles.
Knuckles was never appear again. People would like kind of
get over it. Eventually. You can't lose tails. Yeah, you're right,
right if you If you you're right, So if you.
Speaker 1: Began eliminating them one by one, you would have to
eliminate tales last.
Speaker 2: I can agree with that.
Speaker 1: So so we're green Charmie Bee, Charmie Bee's best friends.
Speaker 2: What they shames?
Speaker 3: Marson? It does? Does does he count?
Speaker 2: James Marston does count? Sonic? Like, if you want to
come at me. If you want to do the Chaotics screw,
you should have come out with Mighty the Armadilla, you know.
I like Mighty. Yeah, well, who says it't for proof Sniper?
That's yeah, that's a knack the weasel slash fing the Sniper,
all right, he's more of a Sonic enemy that you're
not friends Sonic. None of these characters have souls, even
if they're named and all that stuff. Sonic characters have
way more souls than a goomba does, for sure. No, nope,
let's get all right, tails wins. Let's go back to
the hat, everybody. That's some other good ones in here,
all right, specifically very character driven. So far today one
of these got stuck to my finger at the sticky part.
Choose that one? Yeah, okay, here, what is the best
video game box art of all time? Ooh okay, she
sh okay.
Speaker 1: I looked at the first one I saw is Wave
Ray sixty four. That's high up there for me, I
don't know. This is tough because there's so many different
eras and different things that I like from box.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Part of me is just like I like those early
Black box as ones that just kind of had a
picture of the game on it.
Speaker 2: Uh. I like that they did that specifically because like
they thought that Atario real jerks for being misleading with
like yeah, drawn art that doesn't look like the game,
they thought that was part of the video game crash
maybe right, m. The first one that comes to my
mind is Final Fantasy six on super Famicom, right, which
I have recu. Uh you can't see it, but it's
behind me at all times now, uh, with Tara in
the Magic Tech armor overlooking Narsh I believe, and it's
that beautiful mono artwork. It is just absolutely right right, Yeah,
that is very good. Yeah, I don't know if I
have one. I like more of that. I sew someone
shout out Castle Vingia's n Yes box art, and yeah,
I loved all when Konami was doing the box art
in general with that look, with those kind of great borders,
Like even the Ennius Grattiest box art goes super hard.
That looks amazing to me, just like the vic Viper
fighting some star destroyer kind of thing. Somehow, that's a good,
agreeable one.
Speaker 1: I do like this Streets of Rage box art. It's
really cheesy, but in a fun way. That's like it
feels like it didn't quite understand what the game was
gonna be, but still captured it for the most part.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's the one we're like the that
perception seems off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, it's all it's Yeah, it's like, you know,
a hand drawn painted a box art and there's just
an artist doing their their style. Oh uh that Resident
Evil for one with like the red and the trees.
Speaker 2: Look so uh is that? Uh? There was what platforms,
that's the POW one, the Power one. It was the
Pale Region one, Yes, they did.
Speaker 1: They kind of looks that way on GameCube for Powell
region you know, actually talk about POW the pal PC one.
Speaker 2: Let me just I'll share it in chat. Yeah, I
see the picture of it now, Okay, yes you see Okay, good,
I've seen too long? Okay. Yeah. Secret of Mana always
had especially again in Japan where you get the full
like vertical tree effect. Secret of Mana's always looks very
fetching to me. Actually, I really like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, it always made me curious about those games, that
Secret of Mana box art.
Speaker 2: Uh, another world? Do you remember this one? Mic? Yeah,
that's a really pretty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy kind of standing in front of the
big like uh hand drawn city.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: There's there's a bunch of Genesis Street Fight or Alpha.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Kuma and your are you like looking at
each other?
Speaker 2: The Dark Brothers three Echo the Dolphin Ones is actually
really good? Is I do love that one? Yep? Yeah,
that's good. I think the last one I would throw
it out there.
Speaker 1: It would have been better had they not like revealed
this in a trailer. But Breath of the Wild can
him just like standing on that looking at the world
looking very much like the ne e s game or
from that perspective, that was such a cool idea, one
of the like it got the whole idea across what
they were going for in that one.
Speaker 2: Image chat saying FELANX the one with the guy at
the banjo, that's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think that final Fantasy six Super Fama Comb
I mean the amno it's a mono, right?
Speaker 2: Is that there was that the producer? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's so good. Yeah, I think it's just that. I
think it's that.
Speaker 1: John Romeroskatana of course, of course, which was just like
the Japanese symbols for a big sword and basically, all right.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get back in here. Let's do a couple
more of these. Perhaps, all right, sound shake it up
real good this time, because sometimes the good ones get
stuck at the bottom. Jeff, you gotta courage him out
a little bit. I don't understand he puts some bad ones.
Speaker 6: But all right, yeah, okay, ah, well, apparently the bad
ones also could get to the bunks that reached really
deep in there.
Speaker 2: What is the best state shape of all time? I
think we're talking At the time, we talked about it extensively.
We didn't say which one was the best, but didn't
come up.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, obviously a clear early favorite is Ohio.
Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna Ohio looks great. Yeah, it's recognizable, but
it's not dumb, That's all I got. Yeah. I do
like that. It looks like I could like reach out
and grab floorisa, you know, like, yeah it take it away.
Speaker 1: Right, just like take a bitet out of it and
then throw it in the garbage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you got you do have to give
it up to Texas. That's a pretty attractive state, right,
I agree?
Speaker 1: Yes, In fact, I just found a US shaped tier
list from somebody in Texas is in Syeah.
Speaker 2: Just like it's the It's because it was a country,
but it's the state that the most looks like it
should just be a country with a shape like that, Right,
it does.
Speaker 1: Right, you could just PLoP that bitch into Europe and
you got yourself another country, right therek another member of
the EU. Not I mean, not the people, but the shape.
I want to throw one out there, Hawaii because it
has the sort of like I love The.
Speaker 2: Last Samurai, which is a dumb movie. I know everybody.
Speaker 1: There's the intro where the British guys talking about like.
Speaker 2: The Japanese relieved that of master swordsman made a sword
in the molten Ova dropped into the ocean and those
drops became the islands of Japan.
Speaker 1: And Hawaii looks like the same thing, and I like,
I like that sort of effect of like, oh, it's
like clearly the several tips of an underwater mountain sort
of poking out in the straight line.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, why yeah, we got a few squares, yeah, Colorado,
then you have like the squares with just a little
bit of a sticking up point, like your Utahs and
your New Mexico. Yeah, Oklahoma really has the panhandle, like
just a straight up panhandle panhandle. It's a good it's
a good shape. Yes, yeah, I think I thought New
York is a surprisingly ugly state for being such an
important one. It is.
Speaker 1: It's like aggressively asymmetrical, Like it has a tiny, stupid
little jet on the bottom, it's got a bulge on
the top, it's got sort of like a cleft on
the left.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I don't like the look of it. But yeah,
that's California, Mexico. Yeah, right, exactly. California is like way
better than New York in terms of shape. Oh what
about Michigan. It's a mint. Yeah, I mean it's always
it's bothered me and I get like, there's like actual
reasons why we can't just make it two states with
two different land masses. But as a kid, I was like, well,
why is there in North and South Dakota in a
West Virginia or Virginia. But Michigan, which is actually two pieces,
gets to be one thing that doesn't seem fair. This
is Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sean is also saying that the Upper Peninsula ruins Michigan.
I was gonna say, I think that's why it hasn't
come up. You're right, the two. If it was just
the mitten, I think it clears. But because you can't
disregard the upper peninsula, which I think is a strong
shape on its own, like it kind of looks like
a dragon. But it's like the two things don't make
sense together. It's a mitten and a dragon, and that's
stud Yeah.
Speaker 2: They just don't work. I think it's Ohio or Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Any any love for the I'm gonna go to the other.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the other ones from the s tier
on this shaped her list, Alaska and West Virginia. Wait,
I'm sorry, that's that's shoot Virginia, my bad, ye regular
old Virginia.
Speaker 2: I think this all start because we I said, Virginia
looks stupid, isn't this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wow, disagreements on the internet. That's the first that's start
all this.
Speaker 2: Uh. Alaska's kind of again, it has like that weird
like bottom right jutting out bit that doesn't seem to match,
which is like clearly just like some something something weird
happened politically when we would have more coastline. I suppose
in the deal to get Alaska, and there it is.
But it's it's so big. It's too big Alaska. Yeah,
it's it's it's it's stupid big, all right.
Speaker 1: I I I think we should probably actually give it
to Texas. That shape is it's it looks like good,
like on a flag, a poster. It just looks it's good,
a good shape. This is just about the shape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no Ohio favoritism here, everybody. The best state shape
is Texas.
Speaker 3: I always heard that, like if you stay has like
a like a straight line is because of racism. And
I was like, they can't be that many of them,
and he's like mostly them.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn
I learn that's the case. I always just assumed that they.
Speaker 1: Got lazy at a certain point because you could see
it goes from like east to west, and the all
the western states got like ratified much later, and it's like,
I don't know, that's a bunch of empty land just here.
Speaker 2: You get that big square, and you get that square.
It wasn't hot, it wasn't as hotly contested at that point, right,
all right, let's see one more. How's that sound? Yeah?
Please taking up real good. Okay, I feel good. Oh
that's that is what Christian's thinking. You're probably thinking of
Jerryman during Christian. Those are characters, not states. Yeah, I
got one one from the top. This time, Kaream rises
to the it's not what you said last time. Here
we go. What is the best or should I say,
who is the best Soule Caliber character? Ivy? Do you
really like playing as Ivy? Because I never.
Speaker 1: Did know, but every time I see that game, I'm like, man,
that's that's a character for a video game right there,
and she makes me want to play Soul Caliber. But no, like, yeah,
it is like a really fun character to play as,
and Mitsugi isn't. There's so many great Soul Caliber characters.
I think it's probably Mitsarugi. I remember he was always
a little plain to me. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a cool samurai dude, but he is
cool samurai dude. Like Nightmare that ship was. Nightmare hits harder.
Nightmare hits harder than any fighting game character except for
maybe like Captain Falcon with the Falcon punch. Nightmare so
freaking cool. Apparently I'm the only person who thinks Sophia
is like some icon by the way, because I already
I already went to that thing before. Nobody thinks about
as much as I do. Yeah, that's a that's sad
for everyone else. Nightmare is so neat. Why are you
laughing at?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think we're getting out of sink a
little bit. Like I'm gonna change the.
Speaker 2: Server, got back quick. Everybody hang on Internet is on
the struggle bus today, everybody. I don't know. It's like
it's saying I have four bars and stuff like that, but.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: Sport being a thing. Voldo is a goof. But I
don't know if I like I mean, I like Vodo,
but I don't know if I can give this the Vodo.
I mean, I don't. I wouldn't hate giving it to Voldo.
I think I would.
Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to give it to to Nightmare,
just because it reminds me of like a little bit
try hard.
Speaker 2: Oh you think he's an edge lord. He's a soul
edged lord. He's a soul edge lord.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's fine, it's good, it's not he's one
of he's one of the better ones of those, for sure.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I guess I'd be okay
with that. Look. I want you to be happy to Jeff.
I don't want to force anything. There's gotta be some
kind of compromise here. You're not gonna you have a
better chance with Ivy than Keelik or Visa RUGI what
a I don't know. Do you ever care? Do you
ever care about Jan Schwan? Schois like a art I'm
saying it.
Speaker 1: A little bit, but no, I didn't play a ton
That's that the one with like the stick with the
blade at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about Servante's the Pirates, Oh, Servantes is a good one.
I will I'll be very happy with Servantes is very
cool and like pirates are are the dumb fun and
the fact that they made him dumb fun and then
cool on top of.
Speaker 2: That, that's difficult. I like how he's the series Sigott
like he was actually the bad guy in the first
game that nobody played, and now he's just sort of
another character, just one of the idiots. Yeah, yeah, Sean
Sean said it was it's either Nightmare or Ivy and
does not like Servantes, Well, then just a pirate. He's
just a pirate. Special about pirates are cool. Everybody you love,
you love? Uh, the that that pirate from Fatal Fury,
what's her name? B Jenny? Oh?
Speaker 4: That's because b Jenny doesn't look like a pirate.
Speaker 2: It's just looked a little bit more like a pirate,
to be fair, I don't know he's a ghost pirate. Look,
I wanted to be Nightmare. I'm on your side showing.
But you know, I got a compromise with this Jack
and Apes over here about.
Speaker 4: If someone thinks Soul cat Bird, they're thinking of a link,
which no, no, no, Nightmare. I'm just saying Ivy's right
after that. Ivy's right after that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get I mean I played a
lot of Soul caliber, and I don't think of Nightmare
right away. I guess I just he's like the one
that the every You're right, everyone picked him first every
But when I say yeah, I guess that that's me
arguing against myself, like I'm not like fully against this.
Speaker 2: Nightmare is fine, you know what it could be Ivy.
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: And the question is not who's the best character to
play as either, it's just who's the like an Ivy's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go with Ivy. It can be Ivy. I'll
make it up, all right, Yeah, everyone, you heard him,
he said, can the Ivy. I'm not inflexible, Jeff, I
saw it. Ranking you gave my knee.
Speaker 1: All right, look, all right it's Ivy. Congratulations to Ivy.
She only has won something.
Speaker 2: I want to do one more?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, perfect, it's only it's only getting
better the more we go, you know, last one.
Speaker 2: For the day, everybody? Oh? Is that all? It should?
All right? This last quick one here? Not much to consider.
What is the best PlayStation two game? Turn Burnout three Takedown? Alright,
we're done. It's the best system for that game. It's not,
it's it's kind of the worst. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know what's if I look at my top one
hundred games, lest I bet my highest ranking PS two
game is going to be Snake Eater. Oh that's not
quite Actually, I think I lowered Snake Eater a little bit.
I did like Snake Eater a lot, specifically Subsistence, which
you've never played. No, I'm going to at some point,
but yeah, yeah, right around there, I have Tonyak's pro
Skater three, which again that's a local platforms, But that
one's really good on p S two.
Speaker 1: Why don't we just do Katamari Demassi. It's too interesting,
it's too good.
Speaker 2: They just capitulated to you the strategy you give me.
I just gave you what you wanted. You already stuck. Yes,
that's one. I care about.
Speaker 3: A little ship you hiving's gonna take a mile?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why you can never ever capitulate? The highest one
I have a MI list is Keenamart's two, and I
know that ain't happening, absolutely not. I mean, look, it
probably is Tony Hawk's pro Skater three. It look that
that might be. That might be the our lead choice here.
What else could it be? I don't care that much
about Grand Theft Auto san Andreas said to say, I
don't care that much about the g tas, and you
don't care that much about the final fantas.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Shadow the Claw. So I really like
that game a bunch. Oh that's kind of a fun,
fun choice. I do like shower choice and pick and
almost said fun chick, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I kind of like Shout the Colossus a lot. I
like the God of Wars. I like God of War
a lot.
Speaker 1: I like it, maybe a little bit more than Shadow
of the Classus, but Shadow of Cossus is like a
reason to get that system.
Speaker 2: It was good, right. I do like Subsistence a lot.
It's interesting because even though I enjoyed the remake, after
I played the remake, a part of me was like,
I don't think I quite like Subsistence as much as
I thought I did anymore. I don't know. I don't
know if it's like a if age thing or it's
age thing. I still really like that game. I still
like in my top twenty five. It was in my
top ten, and I lowered it just a little bit
after Patton remake. Yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean I bet that, like I'm looking at like Prince
of Persia the Sands of Time, I will be interested
to see how I feel when I replay that.
Speaker 2: Eventually, I picked that up for the GameCube recently. It's
that's where I played. It's great on the game Tube,
just to have it not quite the Xbox version, but really, Yeah,
all the jack games, all the retching clingson yepid, you know,
they're all very good. They can all up your arsenal h. Yeah,
I think with us two. As a group, I think
it's I've never played Dark Cloud too, Sorry that boy, Jerry.
I think it's going to come down to Tony s
pro Skater three or Shadow of the Classus. So yeah,
let's go with Shadow of the Colossus. That I feel
good about that. I that that is one of the
most amazing first play throughs of a game I ever had.
Like playing that game for the first time was so
freaking cool. And yeah, I know, like you go back
that game now, maybe it seems kind of framey and slow,
but at the time it looked awesome. It felt amazing,
and god, just it's funny because like I know, now,
I know those kind of crafted to make sure I
had that moment, but it felt so organic and surprising
when like I fell off that bird and it swooped
back down. I caught him again on the bottom of
his little Loop de Loop still one of the greatest
Reilly things ever. Sean's very smug is he immediately called
this is what you guys too, goddamn well, yeah, this
is this is the compromise pick. It makes sense, there's
a there's a lot of very good places. Actually, this
reminds me I have because I made a list of
my twenty top PS two games of all time at
one point here. Let me pulled that up real quick
and see how I did it when I did not
a lot of Star Wars Battlefront choosing chat that that
all that pind got quiet after a while. I love
giving that game Ship, God, I love giving that game ship.
Miss it? I miss it? Yeah. Oh so my top
five is one Subsistence two Ports two three to Skater three, four,
Show of the Classes in five, Fantasy twelve. So yeah,
I'm perfectly happy with Show of the Classes. All right,
let's do it Ship Battlefront two. He could like a
new Battlefront to you, exactly, a better video game.
Speaker 3: Wait, didn't you play that game? We have fun on stream?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like seven out of ten fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure I definitely had the fun that I
was expecting the game to be, which is always like, yeah,
people seem to like that.
Speaker 2: All right, it's fine, I'm sorry I was. I'm not
trying to be that much of a shit. It was
just a joke, all right, all right, I love it.
I love it. Oh yeah, yes, Chat, I like FOPA
twelve more than ten, and I'll stand by that. It's true.
I like ten of R also, all right, well that
was fun. Just the recap. What we decide today everyone.
The best Duck of all time is Donald Duck. The
best sonic friend of all time is Tales. The best
vide game box stars fan Fantasy six. The best state
shape is Texas. The best soul Copper character is Ivy.
Best PlayStation two game is Shadow of the Colossus. All right,
that was fun as always.
Speaker 1: Uh, good work. Now we were keeping a list here.
We previously said the best Tony was still Tony Hawk.
So maybe one day we can go back.
Speaker 2: Here and like really just making sure I don't like
get extras. Yeah, but yeah, the best color was orange.
The best cable channel was Cartoon Network. Best on Fantasy six,
best game boy game leaks Awake, getting best, best sandwiches
the French Deep.
Speaker 1: Okay, so final Fantasy six is our first two time winner.
Congratulations following Yeah true, Jeff cut down.
Speaker 2: That's a good video game. Holy shit. All right, let's
take one last break. We'll come back and talk about
what we've been playing right after this. All right, we're back.
It's a good show everybody. Uh, Mike, what have you
been playing? Yeah, Like we're Drying Quest seven, which again like, yeah,
there's a bit more than I thought there, but still
closing in on that, so uh, no worries. I did
check out the demo for a little game called Obey
the Insect God, a finish indy game being made I
think mostly by a kind of husband and wife team
in there, taking a lot of digitized pictures of themselves
and turning it into a kind of Mortal Kombat mythologies,
like especially in the way that it looks. The gameplay
is less of that. Hey, we just are trying to
make a fighting game, a two D action game. It's
a bit more of a actiony Metroid Veana and you
gotta like do your peries and and things like that.
There was a lot in it that I did like
quite a bit. I thought the fighting combos looked good.
I liked that there was a parry system. Some of
the movement felt a little weird because you kind of
to build momentum almost like a song situation, except like
and if you jump and land you kind of lose
that momentum. There's some some of the some inconsistencies with
the art assets, and I think some of that might
just be early game depth stuff where some things look
a lot like blurrier and low texture than others. But still, yeah,
I thought it was I thought it was a neat demo.
I hope they're able to polish this up into something
something memory Ale. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was fun to watch you play, and it definitely
has a strong look in terms of like, oh, okay,
I see what they're going for, and I think they're
doing a really good job of capturing it and kind
of doing their own thing, and it's really awesome to
see like those uh, you know, rotoscope performance capture visuals
with modern cameras and modern green screens and all that stuff,
because it's like, it looks really crisp. There's way more
frames of animation than you would expect. That's that's really neat.
It has a strong effect.
Speaker 2: I'm interested, I'm I'm I'm quoted on that Steam page now, Yes,
the Steam page now says as reviews is a quote
hererom Jeff Grave Giant Bomb says the best game about Sampo's.
Speaker 1: Yep, they pr reached out there, like they're going for
kind of a fun, like, you know, irreverent tone with
this stuff, so they want to kind of I'm like,
say no more, take it.
Speaker 2: It's all yours that could cooking up on the page. Absolutely, yeah,
I looked it up.
Speaker 1: Like sampo's are like finish objects of power or something
like that. They're I don't know, magical items or something
so that.
Speaker 2: Where the objects a power from of control came from
that because that I don't know if you know that,
but this was made by a finish game studio. Yeah,
you could never tell. Maybe it might might they might
be related. I'm not sure anything else, Mike. You know
again like Dragon Quest Overwatch, lots lots of those Overwatch.
Speaker 3: So since I played with you, Mike little and I
was like, I want to play a little bit more,
I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 2: I've actually been playing as Manzuki, the one of the
the other new hero who isn't a cat, uh, the
guy you can throw his hat and help people. I've
been playing his him a ton. I've been doing like
ranked matches with him. He's been super fun.
Speaker 3: The guy is crazy good, kind of annoying as fun too.
Speaker 2: The cat's probably gonna get nerved, I bet, but he
has fun. And if you're in a level with like
pitts and stuff, it's very fun to do his ultimate
and grab their tank and just kind of take the
tank off the edge and they're fucking dead now. And
it's it's funny how this ultimate is much weaker than
that Jeff the Shark one, and it's still like it
feels like un nerf his income.
Speaker 3: It's also like a double edged story if you have
like the enemy has Anna. Because I was playing this
Anna and I saw the cat lifting the tank. Guy
I forgot his name all the time. He was like
lifting it over like like a cliff and they were
shooting up from there, and so I slipped him so
both of them fell into their dead It was pretty cool.
It's pretty fun time, right.
Speaker 2: I was playing with Sean and Christian and I did
Sean was a Diva and I was the cat and
I did get he had his alt. I had to
do the thing that I've seen where I'm carrying him
at diva and he alt. So I'm just carrying the
exploding diva now and I just carry it over to
the enemy team and then I got a couple of kills.
That was very satisfying. That's cool. Oh my god, that
sounds like a lot of fun. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a good time playing that game as well.
Would love to play more of it for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played a game called Volume and this you
played demo. This is a demo as well. It's V
h O L you emmy. Yeah, so it's a Volume
with an H after the V instead not instead. But
also it is like the titan Fall Gauntlet thing, but
without a gun, an all wall running and trying to
get from the beginning to the end as fast as possible.
So it's a parkour game, but it's the first person.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Does it feel like Meror's Edge or even more specifically,
that titan Fall thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, no, it's more titan Fall in
terms of its movement. Yeah, where it's like you're not
you know, Mer's Edge is very much like you can
feel your legs hitting the ground and like they animate
that stuff to give you that information. And here it's
like just go trust me, You're gonna run on that wall.
It's gonna be good. There's like a slide that I
think makes you go faster. I did over run and
I felt really good about it. Like, man, I'm like
way behind the leader on this on this leader board,
which is one of the reasons someone recommended to me,
Uh yeah, I know. I'm like, okay, let me say
if I could figure this out, and you know, I
improve the line. But I started to learn if you
slide and then like jump out of the slide, and
you get that timing just right, so you're kind of
like jumping out of the slide either right as soon
as you go on the slide or kind of right
as you're.
Speaker 2: About to come out of the slide. It feels like
you get even.
Speaker 1: More momentum, and so you kind of want to like
hit a wall, run on that wall as you're jumping
out of the wall, run or maybe falling out of
the wall, run, land on the platform, immediately slide, then
jump out of that slide, hit the next platform, and
sometimes the platforms will be set up like one, two, three,
so you're kind of like bunny hopping from one to
the next one.
Speaker 2: And it has a really strong, good feel to it
when you start.
Speaker 1: To get into that flow of things, and then you
go from that first run where you're just kind of
like taking the obstacle as they come as they come
and going into this other mode of like you're learning
the course.
Speaker 2: So you're like if I do this perfectly. I can
hit this very long jump, and you start.
Speaker 1: Missing all kinds of jumps, and then you get up
obsessed with trying to perfect everything. And I could see
myself becoming very into this game if the stages continue
to get interesting. That's maybe the one weak point so far,
is like it's a bunch of brown and gray walls
and hallways and stuff like that. Uh, you know, that
might just be it's aesthetic, but it's like, eh, there's
not a lot going on there.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. It feels very good to play.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel too far off from that from that
Titan Pole stage, which was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I missed that Neil White, the sickness that we have
for a while.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say, boy, I am literally
at Neon White's like steam page and trailer right now,
because it's like I downloaded this game. You're talking about volume,
But boy do I kind of miss Neon White. That
was so much fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like a perfect game, like it's
just so it designed to be exactly what it's trying
to be and kind of nailing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's really good. I wonder what that. I
wonder if that studio. I don't know if they've announced
what they're working on Nexus.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything else from them on Steam that
was twenty twenty two. Is Neon White? Yeahang, hey, but
it's Posita.
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right? What what be in that? Sposito would do before
Neon White? Don't I county? Do not county? That's it? Oh? Okay,
So apparently there might be a ne On way to
in development is reported. I would like that. Do that.
That'd be awesome. That would be I wonder where my
rinking is now. I don't I purposely don't look I
was in the top one hundred because on my mind
I'm still there.
Speaker 1: Right, you just say you know I was a top
one hundred, like you don't do elaborate Yeah, all right.
Other than that, I've been playing some stuff for like
for review. We will talk about it next week. But
in the meantime, that does it for me? Mike, any
other super chats.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are. Let's see here now, let me see. Sorry,
trying to catch up where we were, Okay, Palpatine, I
read that one two versus Mike probably knows one scene
from Basic instinct. Oh, like the rest of you, I
can know more than that, be clear. It's like, not
like I've thought that scene out. I've seen so many
parodies of that scene more than anything. For a long time.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it's like, oh, the whole point of
the scene is like, no, she like shows it, shows it.
And that's why it was such a big deal. I
thought it was like, oh, yeah, she's like it suggested
that she doesn't. Oh okay, wow, I get it now.
Speaker 2: Bespoke EP says, sorry to bring up the sensitive subject
of our Dutch overlord, Herman Hols, but if Herman is
so bad, why is not a single one of PlayStation's
twelve thousand or so employees ever spoken to Jason Schreyer
a nonstally about it. I mean, there's a few things there,
but like, first off, Jason Schreyer isn't like a parrot, right,
He's not like you go to Sorry and tell them, hey,
I don't like this about Herman Hols and then he
tweets about it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's yeah, that's not how it would work.
And it's I mean, what we like, what would we say, like,
what do we expect them to be saying about Herman Holst,
like like, why he's so bad? I don't that's not
I mean, he's laying people off and cutting jobs, and
like he's the one making those decisions, and I think
they would be self evident that this is due to
the management. I mean he's saying it's because we're facing
conditions where I don't believe making video games is the answer.
Speaker 3: If he's not making those decisions, when who is it?
Speaker 1: Then you know, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not like,
I don't think it's a situation where like it's as
simple as Herman Holst is bad and that's why people
aren't going out there, Like, so Herman Holst is bad.
I think he's probably answering to people above him about
like who are like hey, why is the number not bigger?
And then he has to go and make tough decisions.
But I think he should be able to make those
tough decisions in a way where he can back the
people who he bought to make video.
Speaker 2: Games for him. Artie Bickx has just watched My Cousin
Vinnie for the first time. Great movie. Loved Herman Munster
as the Southern Judge or sentel me I don't know
Herman Munster was in it. Yeah, he's a huge part
of me.
Speaker 1: He's he's like the comedic backbone of that movie because
Joe Pesci and Ursus who may play awesome off of
his like southern, like g shucks attitude.
Speaker 2: It's great. I love her. That's too many Hermans. That's
strange that we had back to back super chats about
different Hermans. Yeah. I hope the next one's about pee wee. Yeah,
how old is that? Yeah? There's that clip where like, uh,
he has to explain to his like normal human niece
the concept of racism and I would like, yeah, I
don't know why. I'm like, yeah, you tell him, Herman
Munster why racism is bad. Herman Monster would know. Yeah. Uh.
Ge Nitre says best. Duck is Duckman. I like Duckman,
but it's also it's also a disgusting show. Yeah. I
watched way more Duckman than I should have. I like it,
you know, I was. I was pretty I was not
like too young for it.
Speaker 1: But it's like I was not getting the full effect
of Duckman as a kid watching that show.
Speaker 2: But I watched probably all of it. P Leff from
says Sleigh the Spire too. Early access trailer is out. Yeah,
early access. I think a story next month, that's one.
I'm probably gonna wait for a full release on that, hope.
Hopefully still this year. Uh, now that I finally played
some Aspire, I'm very excited for Slate Aspire too. I
bet that's gonna rule. Yeah. I need to go just
play Slate the Spire. Still, I'll make that happen. Jockey
Wilson Compendium of Farts. That's a great name. Yeah, no
best of Year, but thank you for the super chat
Jockey Wilson. Yeah, all we need is the name. Tuber
says Lake Superior looks like an earth bound see it.
Let's see it. And then Michael R. O'Leary says, sorry,
I got you so heated. Mike. Here's a few bucks
to make up for it, but it can only be
used at Casey's corner on the hot Dog of the Mouff. Next,
Who's mad? Who's mad? I'm not mad. Don't put in
the newspaper that he was mad. Everybody, please please don't
put in the papers that I was mad. I should
go watch Patriot games.
Speaker 1: Uh, Patriot Games court drama, right, no, No, Patriot Games
is the Harrison for Jack Ryan movie man.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sell right, My bad, I'm mixing it up
with a few good men. Oh right, that you know
what's weird? That's a movie. I haven't seen Patriot Games,
but I have seen a Clear and Present Danger? Sure,
how does that happen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, it's I think what happens is
you watch Hunt for the Red October and that's so good.
You're like, oh, yeah, there anything else like this, And
it's like, oh yeah, there's a bunch of other Jack
Jack Ryan movies and none of them are as good
as Hunt for the Red October. So you watch either
Patriot Games or Clear and Present Danger and you're like, ah,
maybe I'll check out the other one eventually, and you
never know what you.
Speaker 2: Know it really is And why I just don't watch
that movies anymore. In general, I'm realizing now is that
all my friends on high school really liked movies, and
I just would watch movies with them a lot, and
I would just watch whatever movie they would put in
front of me, and one time it was Clear and
Present Danger, then after that it was Hunt for Red October.
I just wasn't there the day that they did Patriot Games?
I guess yeah, and then they like run off to
college and now they you know or elsewhere. I'm just
not watching any movies. It turns it turns out I'm
like by myself and I can do anything I want.
It's usually not watch a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe you never were into movies. Maybe that's
what happened. Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Quick presid they tried a very funny like competitive hacking
scene with Harrison Ford and somebody else though. I liked
that really, Yeah, is.
Speaker 1: That the one about the Columbian drug dealers or the
Irish resistanc.
Speaker 2: Why I don't remember people like some of All Fears anymore.
You don't hear that one talked about it that one.
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever liked it at the time,
but I bet it's I feel like it's been reassessed
to be like it's.
Speaker 2: Kind of fun. See. I almost had the opposite. I thought,
I feel like in the time, it was this big hit,
and maybe I'm wrong because I am wrong so often
about movies. It was like really marketed. It was everywhere. Yeah,
there were there are video games. Yeah, they really put
that because then there was the Chris Pine Jack Ryan
movie and like, didn't even try. They're like, we know,
we know you're not gonna see this Jack Richard Chris
Pine thing.
Speaker 1: Then they just got Jim from the office to make
the one Just for Dads on Prime Bio show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that it?
Speaker 4: Is?
Speaker 2: He done now? No more? No more Jack Reacher, not
Jack Reacher. There's Jack Reacher, but Jack and Jack Ryan.
I don't know. I think that show's done. Yeah, I
don't think they're making it any more. I bet that character.
Speaker 1: I bet Jack Ryan's done. I bet we don't see
him again. They're still making Jack Ryan novels. They're Jack
Ryan Junior. And they're like, I know you're thinking about it.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly that the Babies of Spies, they don't
get paid out a while ago he writes those. Yeah,
he hasn't been writing him for a long time. It's
like Thomas Kade paintings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're out.