Speaker 1: Good morning at seven am here on Wednesday, February twenty
sixth today at ben Ridge, you can expect sunny skies
with a seventy three an hour. One of today's show,
we'll preview the match up between LSU and Dallas Baptist
and we'll talk about LSU basketball's the latest loss to
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Our number one of Off the Bench Live from the
Mercedes Benz a bet Ridge Studios starts now.
Speaker 2: I'll start to you want to presents Off the Bench
with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yah yeah.
Speaker 2: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and T Bob Abart.
Speaker 3: I gotta come off the pitch.
Speaker 2: Now, here's Jacob Hester and T Bob aber.
Speaker 4: Yo, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Everyone?
Speaker 5: Welcome in to a brand new episode of Oh t
b Uh and it's it's an og otb as.
Speaker 4: It's not just me and Jacob here at Taylor Sharp.
Of course, landre Viria.
Speaker 5: Remains in New York, which means we have another face
here today. Perfect day too, given that it's a Top
twenty matchup for LSU Baseball.
Speaker 4: It's Matthew Mooso, one of the OG producers here in
O T. B.
Speaker 3: Moose.
Speaker 4: What's up, brother, How are we doing today?
Speaker 3: We're doing well, man, doing doing good.
Speaker 6: It's a little early. Uh, but I mean it's like
riding a bike. I mean we used to do this
every day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell yeah. Du I was about to say, can.
Speaker 3: You believe you used to get up that early every day? No.
I actually just told somebody that, like over text.
Speaker 6: It's like the fact that I used to do this
full like full time produce this show every day a
few years ago.
Speaker 3: Is mind boggling. I don't know how I did it well.
Speaker 5: Luckily, for you, any abuse you should suffer on the show,
verbal or otherwise should be minimized because Taylor exactly punching
back on this show.
Speaker 4: So you can take a little break, take a little rest.
Speaker 5: It's okay, don't worry, just kind of relax and enjoy
yourself this morning.
Speaker 4: Talk a little ball. Yeah, we're gonna talk to baseball.
Speaker 5: We got new NIL rules concerning Louisiana that are interesting.
I would say maybe it's a flustering and whatnot. There's
a lot to get to today.
Speaker 4: Jack. What's up, baby, how we feeling this morning?
Speaker 3: Feeling good? You know, vacation right around the corner.
Speaker 7: Yeah, been a minute since the Hesters have all gone
on like a true, true vacation and not to the
in law's house or like a quick trip to go
watch the Chargers play or something like that. You know,
two three days here there, so very excited about it.
You know, still got work to do, still got to
be here. Not no senior itis setting in just yet.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, I don't know about that. We'll see.
Speaker 7: We'll see, because that T Bob is also going out
on vacation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, man, going to my favorite place on Earth,
the happiest place on Earth, going back to the House
of Mouse, so you could pillage my wallet to even
more and make one of those cute little mouseholes right
there in the side and just siphon all the money
out of it.
Speaker 7: I was going to ask you, like how much you've already,
like not like a dollar amount, but just how much
you've already spent compared to how much you know you're
going to spend, because well.
Speaker 5: Not a lot already, because they're in lies The secret
on why I can go so much is that I'm
spoiled and my in laws are the DVC club member things,
so I don't pay for any lodging tickets or anything.
Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I know. It's pretty ridiculous.
Yeah exactly. You think i'd be going to Disney as
much of not no way afford it. Pay us up here.
Speaker 7: Hell now, that was like the one thing you really loved.
Speaker 5: Very lucky that my in law is. It's their favorite
way to spend time with the kids.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: I was wondering because, like, you know, we we paid
for this cruise forever ago. And then it's like, okay, yeah,
you paid for the cruise, but you also got to
pay for the excursions.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: It's like if you won't like coke for the kids, yeah,
you got to pay for that as well.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, it's gonna it's it's gonna it's
gonna add up. You know for sure.
Speaker 7: If you want like Wi Fi, you gotta pay like
eighty dollars a day or something crazy. It's like, well,
I'm not gonna like be on my phone or trying
to do shows or anything, but like what if something happens, like,
do I need Wi Fi?
Speaker 4: It's a Spirit airline.
Speaker 5: It's the Uh it's a Spirit airline model where Spirit
airlines not actually cheaper. They just charge you by the amenity. Yeah,
as opposed to paying for all the amenities up front
on the other Uh, the other airlines.
Speaker 4: Uh tay tay. What's up, brother? How are you feeling today?
We're doing well.
Speaker 1: Long day yesterday, a lot of easier one today. But uh,
excited man? What about a good mood? An unusually good mood.
I was a little weirded out. I was like, why
am I in such a good mood right now? It's early,
it's a little cold. Usually I don't like that, but
we're excited.
Speaker 4: To be here.
Speaker 3: I was in a great mood.
Speaker 5: But then I told you, my stomachs can kind of
act you crazy. This morning, just before the show started,
just got a text that there there may may potentially
it would be a stomach bug that has invaded my house.
So I apologize guys for whatever does it happened. Don't
interact me. No kissing today, Jake. I know after every show,
I know, I know it's our way of saying goodbye
for the day before you go on to off campus
in the afternoon.
Speaker 4: But I can't get you sick, not before the trip.
Speaker 7: No, that's okay, makes sense. You can't go on to
cruise the stock Some sacrifices have to happen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm sorry. You can kiss me so today, Okay.
Speaker 5: I think I think Matt would like that a little
to give him a little confidence going into this afternoon,
going into this baseball game.
Speaker 3: He's his nerves a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Taylor was
the punching bag on the show.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead.
Speaker 5: Well, I would never bequeath a kissupon Taylor like that.
It's a kind thing that I'm saying too. I'm not
saying a mean thing here, Taylor. You're You're not ready
for this jelly nor these kisses.
Speaker 1: Look, man, we're the punch of bags because we can
take it. Okay, not everybody, not everybody in this building.
Speaker 4: Can take it. True, true, all right, true.
Speaker 5: A needle because I love My entire personality is that
of a second grade child on the playground. I'm just
pulling your ponytail because I have a crush on you.
Let's go ahead and get this show started.
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let's start baseball. LSU DBU going down top twenty. Matchup.
Really LSU. For whatever slight offensive freeze they had for
the ten innings over the weekend, they look like they
broke out of it with a twelve run forms of
Sunday thirteen on Monday. The pitching throughout the entirety of it,
maybe save for one inning, has continued.
Speaker 8: To be elite.
Speaker 5: However, this is look this is a very good Dallas
Baptist team. They're ranked at all five poles, are ranked
as high as seventeen. They've got two three game sweets
in the season, and they seem to hit the ball
very well. This appears on paper again to my layman
to about to lean on Moos so hard. But to
my eye, on paper this appears to be a strength
on strength battle. As you are talking about a d
WU team where with four players hitting over four hundred
right now, including Grant J. Who was just cusa hitter
of the week. Over the last weekend he went seven
to fourteen, three home runs, eleven ribies.
Speaker 4: Pretty damn good, dude.
Speaker 5: He's third place on dwu's all time home run list
of forty five. As a team, w rand sixth nationally
in doubles right now, fourth in doubles per game.
Speaker 4: Grant J.
Speaker 5: Is batting five seventy one solid. So when Grant comes
up to bat, you know, perk up, pay attention. Tom
Poole leads the nation and runs scored. He's batting five
hundred himself. D w's pitching staverigns fourth the nation and
K's per innings at thirteen point one and tenth in
hits aloud printings. So this is a very solid baseball
team is Dallas Baptist and a great early test potential
RPI boost for an LSU team that will really be
tested by quality team the first time this year.
Speaker 8: Cannot wait, cannot wait.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we'll certainly, you know, throw this one to Moose.
But their only loss is to you two ut Rio
Grande Valley. Outside of that, they have, like you said,
T Bob, two three games sweeps. But if you've been
a baseball fan for any really linked at all, you know.
Speaker 3: Who Dallas Baptist is.
Speaker 7: You know they're not quite like a Gonzaga mid major
that's made it to the championship game.
Speaker 3: But they're like Saint Mary's.
Speaker 7: I mean, they're one of those teams that is always
in the conversation they're going to make it to the
postseason every single year. They're going to play against the
big boys like they are against LSU today and Moose.
Speaker 3: This is a program that's been good for a long time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all the way back to two thousand
and eight when coach Eafner took it over. I mean
they're looking at it since twenty fourteen. They've made the
n SBE Tournament every season except for twenty twenty because
there was no n SEBE Tournament.
Speaker 3: No, they're they're really good.
Speaker 6: And then they put major leaguers out there as well,
and you're gonna see you upticking stuff on the mound.
Tebob mentioned Grant J, who is like the one guy
on this team that can't win the game for DBU. Like,
if you're if you're gonna get beat, it better not
be by Grant J. Because you can't miss him, right,
I mean, he's he's awesome. He was on the Bobby
Bragden's Slugger preseason watch list and Dylan Cruz won that
award a couple of years ago, so it should.
Speaker 3: Be very familiar to LSU fans.
Speaker 6: They are they I would tell you top three mid
major program in college baseball. I mean I'm trying to
think of others right now that are have held the
consistency right, like Presno State won a Natty, But what
you really do after that Postal won a Natty?
Speaker 3: They've hung around.
Speaker 6: I mean DBU, the consistency that they've been able to
have since since co Chiefner took over in two thousand
and eight is pretty remarkable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Connor Way gonna be on the mound tonight. Of
course Connor perfect in his first start. Uh when when
I'm getting a little confused, that was last week, right
Southern game?
Speaker 4: Right three innings?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: You know, like the rest of the staff not giving
up anything. So zero e r A right now has
one win.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Do you know anything about Ryan Borberg, the starter for
DBU pre o e r A zero zero.
Speaker 4: In the year?
Speaker 3: Not not really.
Speaker 6: I mean I know his He came in relief in
that game against Grand Valley or Rio Grand Valley, I
should say, and through the extended relief there.
Speaker 3: But that's all. I mean.
Speaker 6: I if he's a DBU, he can pitch.
Speaker 3: I mean I can tell you that much.
Speaker 6: I mean I expect him to probably be high eighties,
low nineties with a good breaking ball. I mean, they
really put a lot of great pitchers out there, so
and in even included into the draft. I mean I
expect him to be pretty good.
Speaker 3: So we don't actually need I don't think.
Speaker 5: I think like the way to handle a game like
this from a radio standpoint is to, I think, look
at LSU and look at what your goals would be
for tonight. As we said, the defense has been damn
near perfect the entire year, only one ERA on the
year right now. The bats is that is that is
that the point of focus here? Because the arms have
been so great. The only kind of wobble on this
team thus far was the freeze that the Bats went
into over the weekend. Is that the main area of
the game that you're gonna be watching.
Speaker 6: Today, It's one of them, But I would actually flip
it the other way to and say it is the pitchers, okay,
just because I mean, this is is gonna be different
for LSU as a whole. Remember they were supposed to
go on the road already and that game got postponed
and then move Talak Box Stadium. So now your first
road test is against Dallas Baptists and a major league
ballpark and a top twenty showdown in the midweek, which
you don't really get much of. You're going with a
veteran guy on the mount in connor Ware and you've
seen them really throw in freshman after that. I mean,
you'll probably see zat Cowen a little bit tonight as well,
but I would be surprised to see Maverick Rizzy because
you see Case and Evans.
Speaker 3: I think you're going to see plenty of the.
Speaker 6: Young arms Cooper Williams as well in this on a
big stage in a grand ballpark really for the first time.
Speaker 5: Well, and how much impact does how much importance does
this game hold do you think, because I know there's
always made about midweek games.
Speaker 4: Obviously this is not a midweek game.
Speaker 3: By Johnson doesn't have that debate.
Speaker 5: No, Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I mean, but like,
and that's why Jay schedule this, right. He has a
quote out there about this type of this is the
best type of game to help your RPI in an
out of conference setting. How important do you think this
individual game is in the grand scheme?
Speaker 6: Yeah, not all midweek games are created equal. This one
is one that fits into that category. This one's a
little higher because DBU most likely is going to win
the Conference USA this year, and you want to beat
conference champions, because that's not The RPI is based off
of wins, Like it doesn't. I mean, who you beat matters,
But I mean we've seen teams play in lower level
leagues go like forty and eight at some point throughout
the season and have like the number two RPI. Yeah,
it's based off of wins. DBU is gonna win a
lot of games, so I mean that. No, I think
this holds a lot of significance for both teams. Tonight
it's LSU's most significant midweek game of the season, Yeah,
I like.
Speaker 7: And to Moosa's like point a couple of minutes ago
as well about like the staying power of DBU and
kind of being the top of the mid majors when
you look at baseball now it is a sport that
it's kind of the same thing in basketball too, Like
you don't see the mid majors littered throughout the top
twenty five like you once did. Yeah, it's just not
the case anymore because of the transfer portal. A lot
of times, these mid majors that are really really good
baseball programs, they're losing their players, their best players, to
these major programs and they can't keep up like they
once could.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to count Oregon State, by the.
Speaker 7: Way, as just because they're kind of an end to
like that's still Oregon State and so they play like
a unique schedule. But outside of that, like Dallas Baptist
and then you see Santa Barbara in Southern Miss of
the only three teams, and Southern Miss is even hard
for me to consider in that category because of all
the things they've done. But there's three that you could
actually consider mid major conference people in the top twenty
five in baseball as we all know, they used to
be littered, Yeah, with like eight nine at a time
from guys you know, from Sumbbelt to Cusa to the
West Coast Conference. It's just not the case anymore. So
it kind of tells you the staying power of a DBU.
Speaker 5: Kind of imagine that Dallas Baptist has a lot of money.
I'm not sure, maybe maybe in this nil era. That said,
certainly to Jake's point, they have managed to stay afloat
amidst all the changes.
Speaker 4: And I want to talk about some INIL changes coming
up next.
Speaker 5: But first, Uh, Moose, if people enjoyed your baseball takes there,
where can they get them?
Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: Dallas Baptist Endowment sixty six point eight million.
Speaker 5: Okay, not not that, not not like not not crazy
on the on the on the scale of of of
college endowments.
Speaker 8: Certainly.
Speaker 4: Uh so I can't wait at seven pm to night?
How do we watch it? Do you buy flow sports?
I mean, I know I'll be watching.
Speaker 6: It, but yeah, what's I mean? That's that's the uh
the way that think a lot of people. It's the
intended way by flow sports. Yeah, flow sports, flow sports.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been on this earth for twenty eight years. This
is the first time I have ever heard the words
flow sports.
Speaker 5: Well, she needed to get some diversity in her profile.
Insurance is a good business, but can't carry you all
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Speaker 4: Makes sense? You know, there's only so much home in
auto that go around.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Everybody needs a side hustle. This
is flow breaking into college baseball.
Speaker 3: At least we do.
Speaker 5: Uh. Again, in the House of Mouse. They're going to
pay for himself. So yeah, I'm really excited. Seven pm tonight, guys,
what a midweek treat Top twenty matchup?
Speaker 4: Can LSU get it done?
Speaker 5: Asmuss just said, the most important midweek game of the
entire season. All right, when we get back here on OTV,
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Speaker 5: Speaking of legalese, there is a there are there's a
a new law that are excuse me, Dixon Mamacon is
preparing to file a bill in this year's legislated sleft
session that would exempt compensation student athletes earned from nil
deals from state income tax.
Speaker 4: Hmmm mm hm hm. That makes sense.
Speaker 5: Quote, other states Illinois, Alabama, Georgia have bills right now
to make it where nil compensation is exempt from state
income text. We will be competing with those other states.
We're not going to let them out compete us. So
I would say this just here off the bat. I
definitely understand the sentiment here, and in the cutthroat world
of recruiting, it is obvious that this should be done
to keep up with the jones and make sure that
somebody just can't recruit against you saying well, hey, look,
you know whatever, you're gonna paid the offers a million
dollars on both, but here you don't pay taxes on it. Like, okay,
that's very strong from a pure recruiting standpoint, like I think, yeah,
you got to do this, understand that. Uh but my god,
as an adult working man, if this doesn't rub me
the wrong way. I mean, so all these kids are
already gonna be making more money than any of us anyway.
And now, like it's different in the NFL where okay, look,
you know what Florida or Texas whatever, they just don't
have pay Okay, they just don't pay it.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 4: They play where it is what it is.
Speaker 7: Well, those conversations are different in the NFL locker rooms
and free agency, like it's.
Speaker 4: Oh, I know, I know, I know it matters.
Speaker 5: But because it's a draft and not recruiting, like it's
like and it's and it's and it's tied into it,
it applies to everybody. It's not just an exemption or
it's not just the uh, the players being exempt from this. Now,
certainly certain states are you know, make more money, they're
gonna be more friendly to use other states to make
more money to be less friendly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we used to talk about trying to have you know,
some kind of system where it's like wait a minute,
like cost of living in San Diego cost of living
in New Orleans is completely different. We're making the same
money and we should like, well, I say, the pH
ries the probably didn't try to get like stiphens for like, hey,
I'm paying fourteen percent onmost taxes and cost of living
is crazy out here. Why are we making the same
amount of money? Obviously never went anywhere. Yeah, so so
it matters.
Speaker 5: And so if you're talking about a sport where the
entire roster is built off of recruiting both through the
portal and high school, this matters. But again, the difference
in those situations that is state law that applies to everybody.
Now we're just gonna have these kids that are making
more more money than all of us just not pay
income tax on it either, And I understand why, but
like god, I hate it, I I I I I yeah,
I don't know it just it just have we lost
the thread as a society.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like why do I have to pay?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 1: I guess that's my questions. So like it's it's for nil, right?
Does that only apply to athletes? Because like, okay, what
if a normal college student gets famous doing like I
don't know, TikTok, Instagram whatever by this lull, does the
money they make through their ni own get taxed?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 7: Like if there I would have met like would this
be through the the revenue share of those TikTok I
don't know, But only on the revenue share that the
twenty plus million dollars is going to be allocated?
Speaker 8: Or is it not on the revenue A and only
on the nil deals?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, because okay, Like like like I'm saying,
like if there's if somebody, a normal college student gets
famous and doing like TikTok or whatever, and then a
local car dealership in the area hires them to do commercials,
is that not taxed?
Speaker 4: That's inn il for a college kid. They're just not
an athlete.
Speaker 3: No, I know, I know, I don't know exactly, so
I I I can't pretend to know what legally uh.
Speaker 4: Applies.
Speaker 5: I think we'd have to read the bill honestly, right,
We'd have to get a lawyer to read the bill
to know fully what this applies and doesn't applies to.
Speaker 7: So I don't think we need to get too lost
in the kind of detail weason he's always here doing
hits with brain, true, sefe's down there the break so
it's it's uh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Again, I I I would like, I would like my
representative also to propose.
Speaker 4: That we don't have to pay in cup tax as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Any guarantee to pay me in n
IL dollars?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I did not yet see if you don't
realize that. Yeah, we're you know, new contract time. It's
gonna be an il TA. Yeah, because you know, we played,
we sued to play. We're athletes at one point in
our life exactly. I feel like all of our new
contract stuff should go through in IL no state taxes.
But I mean, okay, So if push comes to shove though,
and I tell you, okay, you can either do this
or you don't do this, do you still at the
end of the day say, okay, whatever, you have to do.
Speaker 4: This because you can't recruit against it if you don't.
Speaker 7: I mean, I no, I mean, I'm sorry, Like no
you say you say, you say, don't do this. I
mean I just to not pay state taxes when everybody
else does. I know, I just I'm not gonna be like, yeah, sure,
I told you.
Speaker 5: I mean, Hooter's blowing bankrupt was the canary in the
coal mine. We were just a lost society as a whole.
And here's just the latest piece of evidences. Give these
eighteen year olds who managed to get two secks at
Central Michigan last year a million dollars then not having
filled up the state coffers at all.
Speaker 3: Again, Yeah, how much is this going to raise my test?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean how much is this gonna raise my
state task?
Speaker 4: We fisted a lot of road building going on right now?
Guys are we are we voting on this?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Do we do?
Speaker 4: We get to go and actually vote on this?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 8: Pat, Well, no, your representatives will vote on this.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want that. I want to vote
on it. This is an Athens Greece. We vote on
every other proposed thing. I guess, I guess.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess, Like in a I don't know, in
a legislative session is this? How does it work? Does
it get approved by the end then go to us?
Speaker 8: I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: Uh, weird times, it's a weird story.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Fully, you can you can see that.
Speaker 5: I'm a bit at odds with myself about how to
react to it, because, again I get it from a
recruiting standpoint. It's going to make it really hard if
UGA is saying, look, you get a milli here and
it's tax free.
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean we're talking about between like eight and
eleven percent, depending on I guess the state.
Speaker 8: It's one hundred thousand dollars difference, two hundred whatever.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, man, you know, but hey, if
you're going to work, you're going to work an overnight
or you know, a good, nice twelve hour shift in
the plant.
Speaker 4: Just remember that h.
Speaker 5: Your your favorite wide receiver transfer will not be paying
state income tax and the five hundred grand that he's
making to be a disappointment and a backup that never
really pans out.
Speaker 3: On the twenty nine catches for two hundred and eighty
seven years.
Speaker 4: Congratulations, gradulations, it's kind of your fault, though. You should
have been better at football and born.
Speaker 3: Ly say we were pretty good at football and born later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're going to work and turnaround, all right, Well,
you know, just just think about this the whole time
you're there.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that won't make you angry at all, so sure.
Speaker 5: Whatever, go ahead and do it. But my god, dystopian
society on full display here. And congrats to these kids,
I guess.
Speaker 7: Also, I see in the chat a lot of people
talking about the radio signal. Don't worry, you'll be fixed
by this afternoon.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. Be fun.
Speaker 4: It's foggy morning, this morning morning, this year.
Speaker 3: We'll make sure he gets done.
Speaker 4: All right when we get back here on OTV, keep
a luck more bench off the bench? What's that?
Speaker 3: And y'all welcome back to OTV.
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 5: You know, every now and then here the Pelicans are good.
I love talking to Bay. I don't even try to
force it anymore. Now the Pelicans have just broken all
of us, even the beating the Spurs again, for whatever
that's worth, shout out to him. I hate out the
loungers in New York randomly, and the Pelicans whip up
on the Spurs twice out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: But whatever, I know, two in a row, dude, it
was not she's going through it, going through well saltiness
last night.
Speaker 5: I mean, well, she's already talking about tanking trying to
get flag, which if the Spurs also get flag I
mean whatever, dude, just give up this, completely give up.
I think that should be impossible, you know, unless like
the math Goods really come.
Speaker 4: Through within the ping pong there's like six teams in
front of them or something that it should be. But
it's technically you know, there is a chance.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Nets, Sixers, Raptors, Hornets, Wizards, Pelicans, Jazz all
in front of them.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: But the reason why I bring up the NBA is
because I'm not gonna lie. Last night, the the Luca
drama managed to pierce my mind bubble right like I
knew I wanted to get eyes on it because of
I don't I just don't think we've ever seen a
move like this. I mean mean, as I just alluded to,
as a Pelicans fan, you have gone through a lot.
You have suffered constant disappointment, falling short of expectations, embarrassing
levels of mismanagement, not one but two wasted number one
overall picks, and I still don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't believe in my opinion, that you have.
Speaker 5: Ever suffered something like what the Dallas Mavericks just went through,
even ad forcing his way out of town, which was brutal,
and awful and terrible does not come close to your
front office telling a generational five time All NBA twenty
five year old you smoke too many joes and don't
eat right.
Speaker 4: We don't believe in you.
Speaker 5: By and so, last night in La Lakers play a
host of the MAVs and Luca was on the war path.
We said it at the time, they were talking so
much crap publicly trying to justify this move that all
they were doing was was adding fuel to the fire
to one of the again no exaggeration, generational player. And well,
last night Luca not only leads the Lakers to a win,
which I think they have one of the best records
since the trade deadline, maybe the best, but he becomes
the first Laker since Kareem Abdul Jabbar to record at
least fifteen points, fifteen rebounds, ten assists, two steals, a
two blocks in a single game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nico, Harrison, Nika, what are you doing? Son?
Speaker 7: And you see him like before the game, like posted
up sitting there watching Luca almost like I'm the coolest
guy in the room.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna alpha Luca. Yeah, that worked out well for you, Bud.
Speaker 5: He is Jerry Krause, New age Jerry Krause. He's tech
bro Jerry Krause. You know the guy from Last Dance
who was like, you know, the Bullsers, Bulls are dead
and I'm gonna move out to Jordan. I've got Matt
Plan in place, Okay, Nico. Yeah, he's also he's the
meme of that guy that walks into the press conference
and is like angrily eyeing everyone down, kind of daring
someone to challenge him.
Speaker 4: He was like that, that's him.
Speaker 5: It's it's because yeah, I mean, I understand why he's
so defensive, because he made the literal dumbest move we've
ever seen NBA history, and I can't wait to get
the full story one day. Like maybe their new ownership group,
which is purely profit motivated and gambling base, doesn't really
give a damn about winning and force him to do
I don't know, but it's the dumbest move I've ever seen.
You bless the Lakers, the least deserving team of a
move like this in the entire NBA, And now in
the first time y'all match up, Anthony Davis is nowhere
to be seen with an adductor strain.
Speaker 4: Imagine that, and Luca gets a triple double of the
form that nobody has had in a Laker uniform since
Kareem abdul Jabal. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Nico, as Dev would say, couldn't find a d with
a search warrant close to this game, and then you
do actually find Max Christie. He had ten points, six assists,
one rebound. So the MAVs didn't really benefit in this
game against the Lakers with what they got back for Luca,
which was.
Speaker 3: A overaged one star and then.
Speaker 7: Max Christie only one first draft choice that probably is
not gonna work out because it's the NBA and usually
like four to five tops draft picks actually work out
in the.
Speaker 4: UNBA hands out first round picks like skittles, and they
got one.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can have skittles anymore.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, so already, if you're a MAVs fan,
you are broken, right, and then this happens, And then
this happens.
Speaker 3: It is about twisting the knife. It reminds you of
the ultimate salting.
Speaker 5: The wound to me that will always be in my
head is in Texas Chainsaw Massacre where he cuts the
dude's legs off of a chainsaw and then he takes
two bags of salt and he just jams him in
the bloody stumps.
Speaker 4: I imagine that's exactly what Dallas Mavericks fans are feeling today,
isn't it? Isn't it perfect? Though?
Speaker 1: Like it's like, Okay, I was locked into this game
because obviously I love Luca, and I was like, man,
I hope he drops forty on this team, but I
actually look.
Speaker 4: Him back on it.
Speaker 1: This was the perfect way to do it because even
even before, oh you know he's he's overweight, he's out
of shape. Everybody on the national media, Oh, he doesn't
care about rebound, he doesn't care about playing defense. Fifteen rebounds,
two blocks, two steels, like you mentioned, like Lucas showed
his entire repertoire last night, Like this was the perfect
way to do it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, he has a bad body, no mistaking it. Yeah,
his definition it's super dadbod. But he's just got an
insane rhythm and athleticism and a craft to his to
his game that is I mean, it's so European that
the American mind can't even comprehend it, how he moves
and how he attacks. And I guess that's why Nico
Harrison couldn't comprehend it either, because he traded him for
Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, let my guy be a bad body. God,
it's okay, who cares.
Speaker 7: Nika Jokic doesn't have a great body either, wins a
lot of MVPs on the title.
Speaker 5: So European. The American mind cannot comprehend the style which
he plays.
Speaker 7: Hey, every time we see a little muscle hamster, what happens?
Gets hurt all the time? Can't stay on the field. True,
too many muscles you Joey Bosa? Uh yeah, exactly, Joey
Bosa Zion. I mean I guess you could throw any
Bosa in there. Really, Nick as well, just crazy to
when you have all those muscles, You know what is
more likely to happen muscle tear? Uh yeah, sure no,
I mean that's actually here, a chubby tear.
Speaker 5: True, Luca's body is conditioned in a more specific way
then they could imagine. He's not out here trying to
max squat or max curl. He's trying out here to
to max ball. Yeah, and that's what he's doing. Shout out, Luca,
good for you. I don't like the Lakers, not one bit. Actually, dude,
I was rooting for him last night.
Speaker 4: I was so upset. I was so upset when that's
the worst part about it. I mean, you know it's
like they you can't cheer for the Lakers.
Speaker 5: I know, but it is such a dumb move that
I do want him individually to have revenge against the Maps.
But like, thanks for making the Lakers good for another
ten years, Nico, Like what the hell is that about?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gave away like a top five player in
the NBA who's twenty five to the Lakers.
Speaker 5: This is like you ever played Settlers of Katani? You
ever play Catan?
Speaker 3: I know, I know what it is for people.
Speaker 5: Competing there can be only one winner, and the entire
game is based off of making trades with one another. Well,
as you can see, this naturally leads to an incredibly
toxic environment for.
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, don't trade with him? Why have you traded them?
And then and then accusations of king maker, king maker, Well, Nico,
you are the ultimate king maker. You just made the
Lakers good for a decade, you dumb idiot.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 7: Anyway, Maverick's about to mess out and mess up and
be out of the top ten in the West too.
Losing two games in a row. You got the Suns,
the Kings right there on their heels. They might fall
out of this thing completely.
Speaker 4: That's insane. Again.
Speaker 5: Really, my thoughts and prayers are with the Mavericks fans
because you have suffered a sporting injustice the likes of
which I have never seen.
Speaker 8: So uh.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't tell you to stay strong, but I think
you should just stop cheering for him, Like this is
such a betrayal of trust that if you wanted to
just renounce your fan hood for the time being.
Speaker 4: It is completely understandable.
Speaker 7: How many of us actually thought when Kyrie Irving got
traded to Dallas that he would be the last man standing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, how many actually thought when they were playing in
the finals last year that they would trade Luca.
Speaker 3: Zero?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 7: Wait, you could you could have You could have spoken
absolutes there and nobody would have thought you were crazy.
Speaker 3: No, you were.
Speaker 4: You were talking about like we've never seen this type
of trade.
Speaker 1: Like I keep thinking this would be like the Bills
being like, all right, guys, it's time to trade Josh Allen.
You can't win which trading Josh literally literally yeah, which
we're trading Josh to the New England Patriots.
Speaker 4: He's not ripped enough.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Who would be a good comp He
was kind of like.
Speaker 4: A bad body guy at Mames.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to think, like, who would be a comp
of somebody that you know, they had their time in
the sun and they were a good quarterback, but those
days are in there, Like, okay, it would be it
would be Josh Allen for Matthew staff.
Speaker 4: Yah, Stafford's a better age, that's better.
Speaker 3: It would be Josh Allen for Stafford.
Speaker 5: And like to be fair, the Rams don't want to
pay Stafford right now, and so Matt Stafford may end
up somewhere else as well. I guess the difference here
is though Dallas threw their lot in with the old guy,
they went and got older out of this deal.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's insane. It's insane. Shout out to Luca though again
it was unbelievable watched any of it. He was on fire.
Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Breaking news here, you were just talking about crazy GM moves.
You're talking about Andrew Berry from Cleveland. It looks like
the Cleveland Browns are planning on signing Justin Tucker. Uh,
were he to be released from the Baltimore Ravens. Uh,
just kidding, guys, that's not breaking news.
Speaker 4: Uh, but it is funny.
Speaker 5: We'll talk more about just Stucker next hour. Or fully
guaranteed it's a paid kicker in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely trade their kicker for like a sixth round
pick or something.
Speaker 3: I try to tell you about Justin Tucker years ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just thought it was sour grapes.
Speaker 3: Nope, try to tell y'all.
Speaker 4: I mean, it is crazy.
Speaker 5: I was listening to an interview with the with the
reporters who've been working this story, and guys, it's a
very thoroughly and correctly reported story. I mean, I mean,
we can still say allegations, but like I just mean
in the correct in the this is the process of
how you try to establish what the facts of the
case are.
Speaker 4: And uh, it does not look good for just now.
Speaker 5: Interestingly, I don't think there's any legal recourse, civil or
criminal because the statute of limitations also, uh, there doesn't
even if it were within the statute of limitations.
Speaker 4: A parent lawyers say, this is not a case that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna win anyway, which also means that like, look,
if you're just accusing the women of wanting money, they're
not gonna get any money, right, So no, not true,
but it's uh yeah, it's it's it's pretty greasy that
there are some kind of funny details that we'll get into,
uh next hour.
Speaker 1: Also though, like you can be a q being get
away with this. We've seen it with Watson. You can't
be gooning like this with it. Like a kicker, guys,
kickers are replaced twice a year.
Speaker 4: He is the greatest kicker of all time. But yeah,
it is.
Speaker 3: He had fallen off to his standard already.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all of a sudden, you have a bad year.
Now this comes out.
Speaker 1: Huh hours right kicked him out of the massage Parlors,
he went in the right head space.
Speaker 5: Uh. I mean it is weird because like a lot
of the allegations are from like years ago. Yeah, like
it looks like miss is actually maybe something that he
stopped doing but did way too much. But whatever, we'll
get into that a bit next hour. What's going on
with the radio station, bear metric pressure and all that, guys,
I don't know. Yeah, it's Tom says I want Musso
to be my Mary Kate. It's another story that will
maybe say for next hour. Even though I feel weird
talking about Yeah, it's me y'all on the YouTube cup. Oh,
daddy gate? Is that what they're calling it?
Speaker 4: Daddy gate?
Speaker 3: Don't like that.
Speaker 5: LSU basketball falls Tennessee last night sixty five fifty nine.
Speaker 4: Defensive battle. There any thoughts in last night's game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean good defense. So you played against a
top five team. Still a moose before the show? What
do we always talk about to Bob Cam Carter doesn't
score twenty five, You can't win three for ten twelve
points victorious. Miller gave you seventeen, but you only have
two guys in double figures.
Speaker 3: So I mean they're fighting. They looked like you know
yet Tennessee this game?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I know.
Speaker 3: And no moral victories, I get it. But these are
really good.
Speaker 7: These are top five basketball teams, and it feels like
they are like a player away from winning these games.
Speaker 5: You get what you paid for ls You invest in
the second least. And it's why you talked about the
story the other day where they are planning on finding
some way to come up with more basketball investment.
Speaker 3: It can be done.
Speaker 7: Missouri went winless in the SEC last year. Now the
number fourteen in the country.
Speaker 4: There we go, there you go? All right? Our one
of the bucks.
Speaker 3: When we get back.
Speaker 4: We got the Mahai Man himself, mister Matt Flynn coming
in for some floats through and keep it locked here
on OTB off the bench