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<v Speaker 1>So we'd like to introduce to Vessel Magic and ECW original,

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<v Speaker 1>a former ECW television champion, a former e c W

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<v Speaker 1>Tag team champion as part of the bit Bulls, Gary Wolf. Hello, Gary,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you awesome?

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<v Speaker 2>How you guys doing today? Very good?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? That's awesome all right, Glad to have you here,

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<v Speaker 3>mister Wolf. So I've heard recently that you have released

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<v Speaker 3>a book.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's called The Pitbull Unleashed. Actually here I must

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<v Speaker 2>show it to you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's to cover. Missy Hyatt wrote the back. Todd

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<v Speaker 2>Gordon wrote the forward. Uh, it's a pretty good book,

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<v Speaker 2>first one I ever wrote. Right now, it's number six

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<v Speaker 2>out of wrestling books, which is pretty good, number forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine at all sports books on Amazon which are one hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's getting up there. It's getting pretty good hits.

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<v Speaker 2>And people who know the pit bulls seeing the pit

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls but never knew the behind stories of the pit bulls.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's cool. Check out and it's a good read.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay man, nice little history for us all to hear about.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm glad that you were able to write it

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<v Speaker 3>and put your memoir in a way in this book,

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<v Speaker 3>so we can read it and we can retell later

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<v Speaker 3>on about it, but without further Ado Scully, what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of questions do we have? Four pit Bull number one?

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<v Speaker 4>This is really exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so fastly before we spoke about before we speak

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<v Speaker 1>about the best thing, I wanted to ask more about

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<v Speaker 1>you as a person, like growing up as a child

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. If you don't mind, Is that

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<v Speaker 1>okay with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So growing up, was you always a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling or Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>When I was a young little kid, I mean I'd

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<v Speaker 2>watch wrestling with my grandpa. He was a tang right

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<v Speaker 2>off the boat man from Zigulian. Yeah, so he had

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<v Speaker 2>the white hair, blue eyes, and he would he would

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<v Speaker 2>watch wrestling because he liked Bruno San Martino. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was in the Superstar Billy Graham and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love Andre the Giant. It was cool, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never thought I would become a wrestler, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because those guys were bigger than life back then. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like my dad always told me about like because

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm fair. Uage used to tell me about like

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<v Speaker 1>Giant for the UK wrestling like giant hay stacks and

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<v Speaker 1>manners and stuff like that. And when he showed me,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you found this, Like compared to what

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<v Speaker 1>I seen that entertainment side, it was very different, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, especially in the UK. It's I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>always different. Wrestling is different in all different countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, i'd definitely say American wrestling is twenty times more entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Tr what you're into, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>So along with the childhood portion, I wanted to ask you,

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<v Speaker 3>were you ever an amateur wrestler in school or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Or yeah? I did that one year one sixty eight class,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I ended up doing I was more a

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<v Speaker 2>football player. I was a linebacker, defensive end. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to hit people, That's what I like to do. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when I got out of high school, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was younger, you got to realize my dad

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<v Speaker 2>sent me a military academy. I was in military school

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<v Speaker 2>because I'd go to schools and if I got picked on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd end up beating it out of a person and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'd get in trouble. You know what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my dad put me in this school. Then

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<v Speaker 2>I went to a Greenway academy which was for bad kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and some kids was picking on me there and I

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<v Speaker 2>threw them down a flight of steps. I didn't care

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, you know. So then my dad sent

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<v Speaker 2>me a military academy. It was called the Hardgrave Military

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<v Speaker 2>Academy in Chatham, Virginia. Bad school ran by all Vietnam vets. Tough,

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<v Speaker 2>mean motherckers man. I mean, they beat it at me

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<v Speaker 2>every day. I mean it was rough, man, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was good because it got me tough, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I was there from like nine years old

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<v Speaker 2>to like probably fourteen fifteen. When it was time to

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<v Speaker 2>go to high school. I went back to my regular

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<v Speaker 2>high school and people didn't even recognize me because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have had big arms and I was in shape,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because military school made it tough. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna be airborne Ranger Special Forces. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was my plan. You know. I had my own businesses

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<v Speaker 2>on the boardwalk and like that. My Grandpap invented the

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<v Speaker 2>first poker machine. And I don't know if you've been

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<v Speaker 2>on the boardwalk where you shoot the water gun game

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<v Speaker 2>and you go into the clown's mouth and it blows

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<v Speaker 2>up the balloon. Well, my grandpa invented that really, so

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<v Speaker 2>all the all them Carni games. You know, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from, you know what I'm saying. Uh, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very weird growing up because to hell, Vincent

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<v Speaker 2>Price used to always be at my grandpa's house, which

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<v Speaker 2>was very odd, you know what I mean, because he

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<v Speaker 2>was a movie star. My grandpa had friends with everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was just that type of person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh, definitely a quaranty. So I grew up as

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<v Speaker 2>a quaranty. On the boardwalk. I would always have a

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<v Speaker 2>skateboard in my hand period, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>If I wasn't a military school, I'd be surfing, boogie

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<v Speaker 2>board and BMX bike and I always was doing some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of sport, you know. And then eventually, then eventually

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<v Speaker 2>bodybuilding got in my mind. So I started working out young,

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<v Speaker 2>which was good because when I decided to become a wrestler,

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<v Speaker 2>I already had a pretty good frame going, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. So I was we were bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>most tag teams, you know what I'm saying. That young.

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<v Speaker 4>I see, I see.

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<v Speaker 3>So one last question before I passed back off to Scully,

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to ask you. Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>the military Academy was beneficial for you? And do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it really sets you up for your wrestling career?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, because it you know there you couldn't There

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<v Speaker 2>was only three rules. You can't lie, cheat, or steal.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything else goes. You know, you have a problem with somebody,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the match and you fight. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell the colonel or the major. You know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>listen under their business. They don't want to hear about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So my first year, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like I had one hundred and sixty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're called tours, and you have only two hours

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<v Speaker 2>a day of free time and you could do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>play football or you know, do whatever you want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got two hours. My two hours were staring

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<v Speaker 2>at a wall getting water boarded, you know. For I

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<v Speaker 2>had one hundred and sixty eight hours. Man, I broke

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<v Speaker 2>the record, and I was like, you know, my second

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<v Speaker 2>year there, when I got there, I said, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>beat these guys. I got to join them, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I decided you know, let me just go with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they broke me down and changed me. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. I mean I was a sniper. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I hit a quarter one hundred yards away. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>in seventh in seventh grade, you know, so no bullet.

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<v Speaker 2>I was ready. I was. I was. I wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to West Point like they had me set.

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<v Speaker 2>When I graduated high school there, I go to West

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<v Speaker 2>Point for four years. I told them, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to college because I'm going to end up going

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<v Speaker 2>to a war. And you know, I walk on the

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<v Speaker 2>field as a lieutenant. You know what I'm saying right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat, But I'm not going to go there

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<v Speaker 2>to college for four years while those guys are fighting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And then pop up, I said, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to go to college. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was already. You guys taught me what to do. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, that shoot people and get ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that that was it. So I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go to college. I'd rather go into

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<v Speaker 2>the service and get those four years in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just get out four years sooner, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. That's how I looked at it, and they

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<v Speaker 2>have respected that, and they were cool with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But then once I seen, you know, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be airborne ranger. You know, that's where they drop

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<v Speaker 2>you off on the opposite side, you know. So but

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<v Speaker 2>my scene what they did to my uncle, and because

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the military, and that's when I decided,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in ninth grade, tenth grade, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to high school. I want to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. That's what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, my father and both grandfathers actually were all

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<v Speaker 3>hair born, so I hear you. They're not quite the

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<v Speaker 3>same as everybody else, kind of perceives anyone else. So

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<v Speaker 3>I understand completely what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean mad respect for your family. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, Skully, here up, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did that? How did you transfer to wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>from there?

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<v Speaker 2>I was at a gym working out. It was called

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<v Speaker 2>a Tellis Gym in Wildwood, New Jersey, and WWE would

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<v Speaker 2>come in and do this is when they were taping RAW.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't doing live yet, so they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>the convention center to tape RAW. So the owners of

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<v Speaker 2>the gym came up to me and my partner, a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine named Andy Bronowski. He does he's leather

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<v Speaker 2>Face in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Okay guy, the real

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<v Speaker 2>big guy. Yeah, he's a friend of mine. And then

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<v Speaker 2>another guy named Waldough. He had passed away, but his

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling name was cry Baby Waldough. Big guy, like four

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<v Speaker 2>or five hundred pound guy. It was huge. So they

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<v Speaker 2>asked us, you know, yo, do you want to do security?

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like, yeah, you know, that's cool. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't buish Bulldog was going to be here. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good big names were there, so we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>hell yeah. So we snuck in the building Monday afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>before the show. It wasn't until Monday night. So we

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<v Speaker 2>snuck in and we jumped in the ring man, and

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't know what we were doing. We just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>started hitting the ropes, taking bumps, and before you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>that ring whooped our hands so bad, Like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to the gym for two weeks, that's how sore

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<v Speaker 2>my body was. I had no idea what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea how to take a bump, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. I remember Dick Whirl, he was

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in the audience sitting in the crowd in the chairs.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody was in the building, just him. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there watching us, you know. And then I sat

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<v Speaker 2>next to him and went up and started talking to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, who's that big blond guy. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was Andy, of course, and I go, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Andy. He goes he's huge. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And he was like okay, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>and my partner Anthony was just like, yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 2>And we're in the beach about knee high water and

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<v Speaker 2>where we both lived in that town, that small town

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy Rogers opened it. It's his school. Larry Sharp runs it,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Fulton trains with him. You know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>and big names, you know. When I went there, Bam

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<v Speaker 2>Bam Biggel, I was just leaving, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather was still was just leaving to go to Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So we got in there and he told

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<v Speaker 2>me he signed up, and I said, well, give me

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember going talking to Larry and he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony's been here a month, and he goes, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to join? I said yeah, and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, at that time, it was three thousand

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<v Speaker 2>And I told him, and I got five hundred I

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<v Speaker 2>no problem. And that's how it started in nineteen eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Interesting, So did you have any other notable names

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<v Speaker 3>with you at that time, because I believe, if I

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<v Speaker 3>remember correctly, Raven also went through the Monster.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he went through the Monster Factory. I believe. Were

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<v Speaker 2>With you at that Oh, Ken, Shamrock, Uh, Katanka Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They were in South Atlantic with me. Vince TERRELLI was Shamrock.

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<v Speaker 2>Katanka was called Chris Chevis. He was doing the Indian

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<v Speaker 2>gimmick there. We had Ricky Steamboat working with us there.

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<v Speaker 2>Flair would pop in once in a while, the Malakos,

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<v Speaker 2>the Fantastics would come in from Japan, Big John stud

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<v Speaker 2>would pop in. We were in the stud state, but

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<v Speaker 2>with Robert Fuller and Matt Bourne Maniac Matt Bourne, which

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<v Speaker 2>was great, you know. And we started off as baby

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<v Speaker 2>faces there, you know, and the Nasty Boys weren't even

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<v Speaker 2>there yet. And I remember, like I kept telling Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>I kept telling the Paul Jones and George Scott. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, look, man, I said, let us can we

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<v Speaker 2>do a heel promo? I said, you know, I like

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<v Speaker 2>being baby faced, don't get me wrong, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just have a feeling we're better heels, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And he didn't believe me. So finally, after a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks he finally got one of the tapings. He said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just to shut you look up, you know, cut theffing

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<v Speaker 2>promo and then I don't want to hear nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, okay, no problem. So we cut the

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<v Speaker 2>promo and he got pitt his jawl hit the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and he threw his notebook down and he goes after

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<v Speaker 2>he put his hands in the air, and Paul Jones

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<v Speaker 2>just looked at us and said, you guys are natural heels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like natural born killers. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We were. We had it in us. That's how we are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. We're Philly Jersey guys. You know, gangsters. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't give them you know, sorry, but but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's how we are, you know. And they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, Okay, well the Nasty boys are coming in,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess they're going to be the babyfaces. I said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>they are, you know. I was like, cool, we turned

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<v Speaker 2>the nasty boy's baby face. That's pretty impressive, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But we were lucky, like you got to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>we were We worked for Jerry Lawler and that was

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<v Speaker 2>six seven nights a week. We worked for Jeff Jarrett

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<v Speaker 2>and his dad. You know, when Jarrett was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, he's only I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>my age, maybe a year younger or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was on the road with him when he

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<v Speaker 2>was in his twenties. Man, and his dad was our boss.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We would do five, six, at least six

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<v Speaker 2>seven shows a week, you know, so we were lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>We were able to hit those territories, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>the last one was Paul Jones and George Scott in

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<v Speaker 2>South Atlantic, which was good because we entered in the

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<v Speaker 2>stable and they worked out because Vince, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>sent us there. You know, I remember Cowboy Bob Warton

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<v Speaker 2>came down to the school. Always a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>from WA would be there. Uh, and he was in

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<v Speaker 2>the office talking to front of Larry. Now he left,

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<v Speaker 2>said goodbye to us, and then Larry said, come on

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<v Speaker 2>in the office, I want to talk to you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we were already working for Vincent eight nine while

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to school, we were working for WWS.

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<v Speaker 2>But we would do all like Tri state area, like

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania. We would do all their shows,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And then we got in

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<v Speaker 2>good because Grillham monsoon liked us, so we then we

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<v Speaker 2>started doing overseas tours with that. So I'd be on

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<v Speaker 2>a two week tour in Austria. You know, it's me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the pit Bulls versus Jimmy Snook and Brutush the

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara beefcake I mean, come on, you couldn't ask for

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<v Speaker 2>anything better than that. I mean, that was cakewalk you know, easy, easy,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just and us we looked at it as

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<v Speaker 2>we're learning, you know, and that's the best way. Nikita,

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<v Speaker 2>cole Off and magnum Ta. There's so many guys out there,

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<v Speaker 2>Lex Luger, they didn't go to wrestling school. They learned

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<v Speaker 2>on the road, you know what I'm saying. So we

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<v Speaker 2>did both, you know, and learning on the road, especially

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<v Speaker 2>going in eighty eight, going to going to New Zealand

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<v Speaker 2>against the British Bulldogs was a fantastic I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what got us over because those guys went back to

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<v Speaker 2>work and everybody talks, you know, how was your tour?

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<v Speaker 2>It was good man. We worked against you know, these

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<v Speaker 2>guys and they were cool, and that's what happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because the first night wasn't It was a scary night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. We were young kids all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to the other side of the world going

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<v Speaker 2>in front of fifty five thousand people against the British

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<v Speaker 2>Bulldogs and they don't want to give us a finish.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, we'll call it out there, see out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that was a test.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll be honest with you, I totally agree you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the heel look, that intimidating stature, and just

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<v Speaker 3>the way you guys forming the ring so intensely. It

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense to be heels for the two of you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll be honest, it's the most good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Even if we're baby faces, we don't change our

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<v Speaker 2>style of work. You know, we hate We keep the

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<v Speaker 2>same style baby face and heel, and I mean we're

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<v Speaker 2>like the road Warriors, man, we were in the Steiners.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they budot us or they cheered us. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make a difference to us. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's valid, And I do agree that turning the Nasty

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<v Speaker 3>boys baby face that's impressive because I feel like they

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<v Speaker 3>were always kind of heels, you know, absolutely absolutely, that's

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<v Speaker 3>got to go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you worked with a lot of wrestlers, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of big names, and you traveled all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always wondered, like I can imagine in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>but how hard was it like for your body and

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<v Speaker 1>your mental strength, like traveling from here to there? Like

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I have a job, it's only ten minutes

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<v Speaker 1>down the road to go to the same boarding place

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<v Speaker 1>every day. But you've got to go here, there, and everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, being young, it was great because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we started traveling young, like nineteen twenty. We weren't even

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we were drinking age because it was eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>at the time until they switched to twenty one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were already locked in. So it was cool

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<v Speaker 2>for us. But going to the UK, going all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world was fantastic. I mean, at one point we

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<v Speaker 2>looked at each other and we're like, yeah, we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>groomed to work for Vince, but man, I'm having more

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<v Speaker 2>fun going all over the world. I only don't give

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<v Speaker 2>it if I work in the United States, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you. That's where we were at at one point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, because and then when we were

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<v Speaker 2>in South Atlantic when Japan came looking for us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out of the blue, you know now was just from talk.

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<v Speaker 2>That was from the malinkos coming in, the fantastics coming in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and British bulldogs that you know got to

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<v Speaker 2>work with us, and you know they talk. Everybody talks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We ended up wrestling the Wild Samoans and

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<v Speaker 2>it was over from there because they would all talk,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because if they're doing an independent show. The

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<v Speaker 2>booker back in them days would be like, who do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to wrestle? And the Simons will go bring

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<v Speaker 2>to Pimples and they're local and we would do it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it was perfect. You know, we ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being really I was. Kevin Sullivan was like a

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<v Speaker 2>father to me, man, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>he opened so many doors. He introduced us to Don Morocco,

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<v Speaker 2>King Curtis, you know, Jimmy Snook who ended up marrying

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<v Speaker 2>my girls aunt right now before he passed away. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And you know, it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 2>I never realized I'd be able to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the business because back in the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd look at these guys. Even the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>was in their locker room, I couldn't believe how big

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<v Speaker 2>men these guys were. You know what I'm saying. We

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<v Speaker 2>were kids, man, these guys were men and they were big.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Ted DBIASI was, I mean, this guy's a

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<v Speaker 2>big dude. He hit me so hard. I hit my

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<v Speaker 2>pants okay in the ring, no bullshrub. He hit me

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<v Speaker 2>right across the face with the clotheslines so hard like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Man, it was like because you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you got butterflies in your stomach and you're going in

414
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:35.640
<v Speaker 2>front of Yeah, I'd never been in front of thirty

415
00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>something thousand people. You know what I'm saying. You know,

416
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you know when I first started, you know, our first

417
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>match was against a Heart Foundation. You know what I mean?

418
00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, we were kids, Thank goodness. Gorilla Monsoon was

419
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>doing commentary with Vince McMahon, and Gorilla was tapping him

420
00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.279
<v Speaker 2>on the leg like, look at these guys. They're only

421
00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:59.559
<v Speaker 2>like twenty years old, nineteen years old. Looking, they're already built,

422
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, let's get him out and look,

423
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>let's get him on the road. Let's get him ready.

424
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what happened.

425
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 3>We were lucky, you know, Okay, man and I agree.

426
00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:10.279
<v Speaker 3>People do talk, and that's something that a lot of

427
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.720
<v Speaker 3>people don't really appreciate enough, is the fact that word

428
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of mouth goes so far. If you're able to get

429
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:19.559
<v Speaker 3>it out there enough, you just got to make everybody know, hey,

430
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm here, and then keep projecting that until everybody talks

431
00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:23.160
<v Speaker 3>about you.

432
00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh. When I walk into locker room, dude, I mean

433
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I know locker room etiquette. I go up to every

434
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>single person and introduce myself, shake their hand made event,

435
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the house. You know I'm saying, that's how

436
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I was taught all school, you know what I mean,

437
00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>never changed, you know, never, And I've been almost almost

438
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:48.400
<v Speaker 2>what thirty something for almost forty years in the business.

439
00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's incredible, I gotta say. So, where exactly did

440
00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 3>you feel that the start of your biggest successes really

441
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 3>started to come in? When did it really all come

442
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:00.000
<v Speaker 3>into play for you?

443
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Once Japan came down looking for us, and that's New

444
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Japan Pro Wrestling back in the day. That's when Hasse

445
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.200
<v Speaker 2>and Sasaki had the tag belts, you know what I mean,

446
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That's when Vader and Bigelow had the heavyweight titles. You

447
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:23.119
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, like monsters, you know. Uh, we

448
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:27.599
<v Speaker 2>went to New Zealand. We did. We had a great

449
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:32.759
<v Speaker 2>two weeks. We learned so much. They went back. They

450
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.680
<v Speaker 2>must have put the word out the pit bulls are cool.

451
00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 2>They're good workers. They're young, but they're they're good kids,

452
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And next thing, you know,

453
00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:45.319
<v Speaker 2>man like she's just started happening, you know, you know,

454
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the American pit bulls versus the British Bulldogs. You know,

455
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.480
<v Speaker 2>we drew fifty five thousand people in New Zealand. You know,

456
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>we filled the Olympic Stadium. It was amazing, you know

457
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>what I mean working against them guys, and we did

458
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>it in two weeks, which was awesome, you know what

459
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean. We learned. We went back again against the

460
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Guerrero brothers. Okay, that's Eddie Guerrero's dad, Hondo and Mondo okay,

461
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and then Ray Mysterio's dad. You know, I went back

462
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>again against the Bushwhackers, which were the sheep Herders because

463
00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 2>they're from New Zealand. As the sheep Herders, they were hardcore.

464
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>It was crazy. So you know what was good about

465
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>us is you know, I talked to Vince McMahon, you know,

466
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and I said, look, here's a contract from New Japan

467
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Pro Wrestling. Can you match his contract. If you match it,

468
00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm staying here. If you don't, I'm going to go

469
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>to Japan. Okay. There's guys that are working for Vince

470
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>McMahon right now that's never been to Japan, Okay, especially

471
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>on their own. You know, they'll probably go with WWE,

472
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:51.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. But you know, I was

473
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>going to Japan because they scouted as Tokyo. Joe scouted

474
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>me as my partner and said, you guys are japan material. Man,

475
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Look at you. I want to see more sue plexes.

476
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 2>Because he came in. He would come and visit us

477
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina, you know, but we were kept going

478
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to NWA. I kept going to the NWA shows anytime

479
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 2>they were in Charlotte because I was trying to get

480
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 2>a job with them. You know. I was into the

481
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Rick Flair, the Magnum, the Ora Anderson's and the Four Horsemen,

482
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know that was more grown up, you know,

483
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>to me. When I would look at WWE, back then,

484
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>it was all characters. It was like, you know, a

485
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>comic book strip, you know what I'm saying. Even though

486
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>it was great, I mean, the work was easy. I mean,

487
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 2>you barely. I mean I would have to make eye

488
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>contact with the boss man just to make sure I

489
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.680
<v Speaker 2>knew he was hitting me. That's how late he was,

490
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, even akeem how big he was, he would

491
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>drop an elbow on me. I disappeared. People would think

492
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:57.839
<v Speaker 2>I went through the ring. I barely felt him. I mean,

493
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, one man gang is an awesome guy. Man,

494
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 2>he could work as apt these guys are. You know,

495
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize what work working was until I went

496
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to Vince McMahon and started working with them guys. You know,

497
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>the Rougeau Brothers, and you know the powers of Pain.

498
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 2>You know all them guys. You know, they were all there.

499
00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 2>We wrestled all of them and it was a great experience.

500
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 2>You know. It helped us so much, and it got

501
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.440
<v Speaker 2>us respect from them, you know what I mean. Because

502
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.359
<v Speaker 2>we were young. I mean, they could have took advantage

503
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 2>and beat this out of us. You know, we would

504
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.599
<v Speaker 2>have took it. We would have gave it back as

505
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>much as we could, but we don't. You know, when

506
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Devias hit me with a clothesline, I had to come

507
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>in to me, you know what I mean, because he

508
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.079
<v Speaker 2>set up the spot. You know, he told me, he said, listen,

509
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna send Virgil over to you. This was for TV,

510
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>because Virgil is going to come in off for you

511
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks. You say, no, get outside the apron,

512
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:58.559
<v Speaker 2>get outside the ring. When I come over to you,

513
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come and hit you. You can give

514
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 2>me a shoulder tackle and then slingshot yourself in the ring,

515
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 2>give me a sunset flip. And I'm like, okay, no problem,

516
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:12.240
<v Speaker 2>yes sir. You know, we go out there, I do

517
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the spot. But I try to hold him down, man,

518
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I would I tried to hold him down on purpose.

519
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I don't know what I was thinking. Man, Honestly,

520
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.559
<v Speaker 2>I really don't know what I was thinking, because but

521
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I knew he was gonna nail me. He got up

522
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and he cut me off with a clothesline. Like I said,

523
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I show my pants. Man. I had to go before

524
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I had to go out there anyway, so I was

525
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.759
<v Speaker 2>probably squeezing it might anyway, you know. So once he

526
00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>hit me with that clothesline, bro, I was just like fu.

527
00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>But he came in the back room and he was

528
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>waiting for me to I could just see him because

529
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 2>he kept going like this with his hand, you know,

530
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 2>rubbing his jaw and opening his mouth. You know, he

531
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 2>was waiting for me to break his balls, you know, dude.

532
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I walked up, shook his hands and think very much.

533
00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 2>You know. Of course I changed and already showered through

534
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>that shaway and came back in. You know, when I

535
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>seen him, like I said, he was waiting for me

536
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to fin. I just said, thank you, sir, I appreciate it. Sorry,

537
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I was a little snug on the sunset. I said

538
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>the receipt it was nice. It's all good, bro, you

539
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? That was it, And Virgils like,

540
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 2>give me that fie hundred hour build back. He took

541
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the hundred dollar build back. And they both were like

542
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 2>talking to each other as they were going away, and

543
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I heard Debios say, see that, now that guy's gonna

544
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>last because he's not big, you know, because that's all

545
00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 2>they he was waiting for me to say, is yo,

546
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>what's all being stiff? You know what I mean. I'm

547
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>not gonna say that number one I had it coming to.

548
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean number two, I'm not gonna bet anything ever

549
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 2>like that. We never did that because, believe me, I

550
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 2>potato people a lot. I'm snug, you know. I like

551
00:30:58.400 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 2>d Russell.

552
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Strong style, you know, yeah, nothing wrong with that. I mean,

553
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.240
<v Speaker 3>there's plenty of guys, especially in the Japanese scene, who

554
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 3>have made so much success off the Strong style. Just

555
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>because it's not necessarily w WE style doesn't mean that

556
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 3>it's wrong, And I think it's a fair way to go,

557
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, makes it look realistic.

558
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I said, me and Anthony like we

559
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>were able to adapt to like you know, we could

560
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>do Triple A, we could do Japan, we could do

561
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico, you name it, down South, you name it.

562
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>We could wrestle it. We could wrestle every style there is,

563
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.599
<v Speaker 2>so we can adapt to anybody's style. First people, the

564
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:42.079
<v Speaker 2>first tag team that Ray Mastereo and Move into Guerrero

565
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>wrestled in America in New York was the pit Bulls, okay,

566
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and we had a great match with them. Guys. I

567
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 2>remember Paul haym And pointing to Ray mystereo and Move

568
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 2>in two and saying, you're wrestling these two guys. And

569
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I look at Paul Hayman and I said, they look

570
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>like they're twelve and thirteen years old? Are you sure

571
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you who'd have wrote them here? He's like, Conan brought

572
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>them here. He goes, they're lucha doors. I'm like, oh, oh, okay,

573
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>so they wear masks and stuff so nobody will see

574
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>their face. He's like, no, nobody will tell. Nobody's going

575
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:21.839
<v Speaker 2>to know how old they are. So I'm just saying

576
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>they look twelve years old, you know what I mean?

577
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Ray is tiny, you know, but we went out there

578
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:31.599
<v Speaker 2>and we were actually balls at a wall man for

579
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.559
<v Speaker 2>like thirty five forty minutes. I mean, Paul was actually

580
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of pissed and be be honest with you, He's

581
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like he gave them too much. I'm like, yeah, but

582
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it was fun. I mean they could really they really

583
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>work great, you know what I mean. They fly all

584
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>over the place. You know, you just got to catch them.

585
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>So that's what we were doing, you know, And I

586
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>ended up becoming good friends with y. You know, it

587
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 2>was cool.

588
00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Dude, that's welled, Scully, go ahead, man, I don't mean

589
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.200
<v Speaker 3>hug the spot.

590
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 1>That's yeah. I was going to ask about your relationship

591
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>with your tag team partner, Like, obviously he was a

592
00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>team in the ring, he was a team on television,

593
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 1>but what about your friendship stage.

594
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 2>We grew up in the same town, went to the

595
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>same school. I ended up getting in trouble. I had

596
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to go to jail. So I ran into Anthony in

597
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the gym. You know, he had his clique. I had

598
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 2>my click, you know, and then we just started working

599
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 2>out together and we became friends. And then I introduced

600
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>them of the mic boys from the City of Philadelphia

601
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 2>and they would go down to wild Wood every summer

602
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and we'd get a house down there. We'd stayed the

603
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>whole summer on the beach and let work out at

604
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 2>a Tellnis gym it was called. It was like it

605
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>was like a gold gym, like it was for just

606
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>for Jim rats, you know what I mean, guys, I

607
00:33:57.240 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 2>just want to get big, and that's all we would do.

608
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 2>And I would, like I said, you know, I'd had

609
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>my businesses on the boardwalk, so it was like a

610
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>vacation and I work. I'd work all summer, but it

611
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a vacation and they I would I would

612
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.519
<v Speaker 2>work out twice a day. It'd be like early, like

613
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 2>before I would go to the beach, I'd work out,

614
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and then I would when I would get done bouncing

615
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.119
<v Speaker 2>at the club at two am, I'd go do another.

616
00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd do a small body part before I'd go back

617
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to my place and go to sleep. So I was

618
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to be a bodybuilder. I mean, that's what

619
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I was getting myself ready for, you know at that point.

620
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.079
<v Speaker 2>And then like I said, and I found wrestling, and

621
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, there was there was I used to work

622
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 2>out with Johnny Jackson who's a pro. So, I mean

623
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I've been I've trained with pro bodybuilders in my day,

624
00:34:53.840 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 2>many pro bodybuilders. The lifestyle I have eventually realizes if

625
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 2>for me. So that's when I realized, you know, you know,

626
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>let me try wrestling to see what happens, you know,

627
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and and ended up being good because we had good attitudes.

628
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You gotta have you know,

629
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to like everybody, but you don't let

630
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>them know you don't like them. You know what I'm saying.

631
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 2>It's like you know what I mean, It's like you

632
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>gotta like it's our business is very very very political.

633
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. It's like you got to

634
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:37.119
<v Speaker 2>know how to navigate your way through, you know, and

635
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>be cool with everybody. You know. Robert Fuller would introduce

636
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.159
<v Speaker 2>me to to Maniac Matt Bourne, and you know when

637
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I met him, I would meet I would meet Mark

638
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Callous who's the Undertaker. I met him and said vicious

639
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 2>together because you know, Robert Fuller training them guys, you

640
00:35:56.159 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, and meeting them, you know, I

641
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 2>became tight with the Undertaker at a young age, you

642
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. He was cool with us, man,

643
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 2>he liked us. He'd come up with good ideas, and

644
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember one time he's like, man, I want to

645
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>bring you guys in and make these the mad dogs

646
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>from hell. You know what I mean. You're in my yard,

647
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you're my two dogs. You know what I'm saying. I'd

648
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>come out with you in the chains. But he would

649
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 2>mention it the Vince, and Vince would say no because

650
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Vince wouldn't come up with the idea. Because that's how

651
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Vince says, you know, getting his idea sometimes he you know,

652
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>if it's his idea, you know, you got to make

653
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 2>him think he came up with it. He'll do it.

654
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, That's how my boss is the same.

655
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's people like that, you know

656
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. You have to understand in this world,

657
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:49.719
<v Speaker 2>they are just people that want to do their own way.

658
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, That's just how it is, so right right,

659
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.119
<v Speaker 3>you got to push it into their ego, let them think, oh,

660
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.519
<v Speaker 3>it was my idea, I'm the genius behind this, and

661
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 3>then yeah, I have.

662
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 2>No with that man.

663
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 5>You know, Like the only thing I wish I would

664
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.119
<v Speaker 5>have did was work for Vince long enough to do

665
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:14.400
<v Speaker 5>a WrestleMania or two, and then you know, then did whatever.

666
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna do. You know what I'm saying. So,

667
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, once I was leaving ECW, we were going

668
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>to w CW. We were signed that contract with him,

669
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.920
<v Speaker 2>We already had the deal made. I just remember calling

670
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Bischoff up to get my flight information and him telling

671
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 2>me Vince McMahon just bought WCW and he can't sign

672
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>any new talent. And they killed me, Manu. He was

673
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna give me and my partner a three year deal

674
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 2>for one point five That's a lot of money, man.

675
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 2>He was paying them guys a lot of funny. Man.

676
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Back then, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall are making nine

677
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 2>hundred a piece a year. Because you got to realize,

678
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Ted Turner use that wrestling company has a write off

679
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 2>just like ae w's Dylan, you know what I mean

680
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>a w I mean, they're oil money and they own

681
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the Jaguars, you know, so all their loss is going

682
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>to be the wrestling. You know, that's all a right

683
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>off man. The old man gave it to the Tony

684
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Kahan and said, here, kid, get out of my hair,

685
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>go do something with your life. You like wrestling, so

686
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I bought your wrestling company, Now do something, So it's a.

687
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Better way to put it.

688
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>They own Fulham Football Club?

689
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Is about that? Please? Yah? Yeah? Yeah, they're they're update

690
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 2>they like I said to me, that's how I look

691
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>at it, you know, I look at it like he

692
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:56.599
<v Speaker 2>probably writes everything off from ae W so they can

693
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.639
<v Speaker 2>pay all them guys what they pay them, and they

694
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 2>don't give it. You know, they don't care, you know.

695
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I I know guys at work there who tell me.

696
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're supposed to be agents telling the guys

697
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>what to do, and guys don't listen. Yeah, so it's

698
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 2>just different error of wrestlers.

699
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:19.440
<v Speaker 4>So that's fair.

700
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Moving on a little bit, so I do want to

701
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>ask you what was your experience like working in ECW

702
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 3>and working in front of that Philly crowd.

703
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>How did it feel? Man? Awesome? Man, it was great

704
00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 2>because they weren't they were smart, marks they weren't stupid.

705
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, working in that building, you have to know.

706
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:41.079
<v Speaker 2>If you're not ready for that building and you go

707
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 2>in there and you say you screw up a spot,

708
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:48.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, the crowd will let you know and they'll

709
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.360
<v Speaker 2>never let you forget about it. So I always tell

710
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.360
<v Speaker 2>people you know, you know, because they're all happy and young.

711
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to that building. I'm going to wrestle there,

712
00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 2>so I'd be very honest them. I said, well, I

713
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 2>suggest you put your thinking cap on. And they're not

714
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>stupid people, they're smart marks. So if you would try

715
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to insult their you know, insult their intelligence by doing

716
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 2>something stupid, they're going to tell you about it. You're

717
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna hear about it, and they'll never gonna let you

718
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>forget about it. So don't mess up. And I always

719
00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 2>tell people that you know, and if you mess up,

720
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>make sure you recover quickly and they'll forgive you.

721
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>That's valid. So what was the creative process? Like with

722
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 4>Paul Hayman, he.

723
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Would tell us what he wanted and then give us

724
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity would Now this is something Vince wouldn't do.

725
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Give us the opportunity of using our own imagination what

726
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 2>we've been taught in this business to do, and put

727
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 2>our you know, our five six cents into what we're doing,

728
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And we're part of the

729
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:10.880
<v Speaker 2>creative part, which was fantastic. You know what I'm saying.

730
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Nobody you know who does that and don't do that man.

731
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean I used to remember working for them and

732
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>they would Pritchard would come up to me, Bruce. You know,

733
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you gotta remember Bruce was working for Vince McMahon when

734
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 2>he was eighteen years old, so he understood me and

735
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Anthony because we were young. You know. They would tell

736
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.199
<v Speaker 2>They would tell me and Anthony, you guys, you guys

737
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 2>got fifteen minutes, you know what I mean, have a

738
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.599
<v Speaker 2>good match, you know. And when we get up to

739
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the curtain, he would look at us and be like,

740
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.119
<v Speaker 2>all right, four minutes, you know, and then we're looking

741
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.239
<v Speaker 2>at each other, like four minutes. We talked about a

742
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 2>match for fifteen How we got to cut it down

743
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>to four minutes? And it's like, okay, go you know

744
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 2>that's how That's how hard it was for us to learn.

745
00:41:58.679 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's the position. They what I said, Because TV

746
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.000
<v Speaker 2>is very important, we realized, you know, every minute counts.

747
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, when Bruce Pritcher is sitting there

748
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 2>looking at the monitors and he tells Bret Hart to

749
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>go out there and cut a promo for five minutes

750
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and come out. Brent's out there for fifteen minutes, and

751
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, Bruce Pritcher's pulling his hair out, you know

752
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.519
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, losing his mind because you're losing all

753
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that time, you know, and that's a lot of time.

754
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>So you know, he could trust guys like Triple Ags.

755
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 2>He could trust guys like Heartbreak Kid, you know what

756
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sean Michaels, because you know they knew to

757
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>keep to their times, you know what I'm saying. That's

758
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 2>how it was back in the day. You know, I'd

759
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 2>go to shows back in the day and first match,

760
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they don't even want to see a clothesline,

761
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, A couple of arm drags,

762
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe a body slam, you know what I mean. That's

763
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 2>about it, man, you know, save the rest of the

764
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.360
<v Speaker 2>killing for the main event. At Rick Flair, tell me that.

765
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, interesting, Scully, go for it man.

766
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was going to ask, like, obviously you went

767
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.559
<v Speaker 1>from wrestling normal matches to hardcore wrestling. What was that

768
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 1>like using weapons and such?

769
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh? We were okay with it. I mean, I'd loved

770
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.920
<v Speaker 2>breaking tables, ladders and share I hate ladders, I mean,

771
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 2>but i'd like the chairs. I liked like breaking tables.

772
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was in the barbed wire baseball bats.

773
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean sometimes if I if I go to Japan

774
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 2>for fm W or Wings that was a very hardcore company,

775
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>h a lot of weapons in that company as well.

776
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Then both of those companies, uh knew Japan was more.

777
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're going against Master Chono. You know, I'm wrestling.

778
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing an hour against uh Under Lagger. You know.

779
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>They would tell me forty five minutes pit bull against Lagger,

780
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm like, holy, you know, thank God,

781
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 2>I was in good shape, you know what I mean.

782
00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I was. You know, I made sure I was in

783
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 2>great shape before I even went to Japan, you know,

784
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 2>because I was told ahead of time, you know, you

785
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>better be able to do five hundred free squads and

786
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, you should better be ready

787
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to do an hour. You know what I mean is

788
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.400
<v Speaker 2>what I was told. So me and my partner were

789
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 2>in JAT when we first went to Japan, man, I mean,

790
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.559
<v Speaker 2>we were in shape like motherfucker. I mean, we looked

791
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>like bodybuilders, but we were wrestling shape ready. Three week tour,

792
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.119
<v Speaker 2>first tour, it was rough. We were there with the

793
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Killer Bees, the Samoan SWAT team which was Yoka Zuna

794
00:44:51.079 --> 00:45:00.119
<v Speaker 2>and Sambu, the Canadian Canadian guys who was Lafont and

795
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Doug Furnace, great tag team, Ben Ben wahb would be

796
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 2>there with us. Jericho Owen Hart, Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero,

797
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Sad Boo. I mean that was the clique that we

798
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of hung with, me and my partner because we

799
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 2>were all short guys five nine, five ten. You know,

800
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 2>we weren't big guys. We were you know, short guys,

801
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 2>but we do it. Just made up for it, you know,

802
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>in our moves and whatever we did. You know, Steiners

803
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.199
<v Speaker 2>also would be there with us, you know Bam Bam,

804
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Invader Chung Lee who you know, Master Chono, Master Saito,

805
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Tiger Jet Singh's dad. Okay, I mean I got to

806
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.159
<v Speaker 2>work with these guys. You know, these guys were silver

807
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 2>medal gold medalists, silver medalists. You know, I hurt myself

808
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.039
<v Speaker 2>one night. I blew my hamstring. Man I remember, no,

809
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>actually I blew my quad. My knee was blown. He

810
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 2>was shot and masters it was a zuki, Yeah, the

811
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 2>one that was in the Olympics and won a silver medal.

812
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 2>He saw my knee and was like really pissed off.

813
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 2>He was just like, what happened? And I told him

814
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>what happened, and he started he started hitting Tiger jet

815
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 2>seing one of the referees Tiger, and he was like,

816
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.199
<v Speaker 2>why didn't you take him to the hospital, you know,

817
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, WHOA, I don't know, you know, He's like,

818
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>take him the hospital, you know. So he told me

819
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. They didn't did just gave me regular

820
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>X rays. They didn't give me an MRI, so they

821
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see what was really wrong with my knee. So

822
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to them, they're just like, oh, bad bruise, bad bruise.

823
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.760
<v Speaker 2>So I didn't care because I didn't want to get

824
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>sent home, you know. I wanted to still stay. So

825
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.199
<v Speaker 2>I just kept icing it and icing and icing it

826
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 2>until the swellen went down, and then I'd had the

827
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 2>black Cat. He was called the black Cat. He was

828
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 2>a tape master, Like he knew how he could tape,

829
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I tore a hamstring once and he would tape

830
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>my hamstring and I'd give me it. He would tape

831
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.679
<v Speaker 2>a hamstring to my body so I could still work.

832
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:15.079
<v Speaker 2>That's how amazing this guy was. So what I told

833
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 2>him to do is I can't. I had dead leg.

834
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't raise my like sitting down. I could not

835
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:24.519
<v Speaker 2>raise my foot, okay, because my quad was completely torn off.

836
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:27.119
<v Speaker 2>So what I told him to do is tape it

837
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:29.400
<v Speaker 2>like a fin peg leg, you know what I mean,

838
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>like a stiff leg. So that's what he did. Because

839
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:35.280
<v Speaker 2>we had to wrestle Haasei and Sasaki in the Tokyo

840
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Dome in front of sixty five thousand people. And I

841
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 2>wasn't gonna miss that, you know what I mean. Hurt

842
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 2>or not hurt, I still wrestled. We lost, but we

843
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 2>cut the ring off. We wrestled smart, and I still

844
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>we still got the respect from the fans because I

845
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.519
<v Speaker 2>mean they would come up to us and they said, look,

846
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 2>we understand you lost, but you had a good fight

847
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't back down. You still fall even though

848
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 2>you were hurt. I had one leg. I still would

849
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>body slam them, you know, fall to the ground, roll,

850
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>use my other leg, kick them out of the ring,

851
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, roll outside the ring. You know. You know

852
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm hobbling around, but I'm still picking them up and

853
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 2>body slamming them on the concrete. I don't care. Then

854
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I would tag Anthony and throw him right back in.

855
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:24.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, we would just cut the ring off. I

856
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 2>mean it was a good match, you know, we lost,

857
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>but we still got the respect of the fans. They

858
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:33.559
<v Speaker 2>liked us anyway, so they would. That's how it is

859
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in Japan. They respect you even though win, lose, or draw,

860
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>as long as you don't act like a baby and

861
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:44.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying and do something stupid where

862
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 2>they make fun of you. If you're tough and you

863
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 2>give it your all, and they see that because they

864
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:53.079
<v Speaker 2>sit there and watch you work, they don't clap unless

865
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you do something to impress them, you know what I mean.

866
00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Just silence, man, You can hear a pen drop, and

867
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 2>so you do something where they all will stand up

868
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and clap for you. That's how it was when I

869
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.360
<v Speaker 2>was there. Man, it was very different than.

870
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 3>The States I see, and that's pretty cool. I'm glad

871
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>that you got to have that experience over in Japan.

872
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.679
<v Speaker 3>The Japanese crowd is very interesting. But one thing that

873
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 3>I do want to ask you, because we're coming kind

874
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 3>of close on time here, and one important question at

875
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 3>least to me, if you could have one last dream

876
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 3>match as the pit Bulls and to go against anybody

877
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:29.719
<v Speaker 3>from history, who would you choose.

878
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 2>What we want. Tag teams of later days or tag

879
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:35.960
<v Speaker 2>teams of.

880
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Today, anytime you want, and you can even go with

881
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:39.679
<v Speaker 3>more than one if you'd like.

882
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, you gotta remember we worked with almost everybody. Yeah, yeah,

883
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I would say I would like to live go on

884
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 2>against the young Bucks. I think they'd be fun work

885
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to work with. Me and my partner would have a

886
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>good time with them. The guy remember the Briscoes, and

887
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 2>you know they used to come to my school. So

888
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. I'm a tag team specialist,

889
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 2>so I trained a lot of tag teams man in

890
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 2>my day. Uh. Probably. I don't think we ever worked

891
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 2>demolition Okay, yeah, I never worked dem militia. Yeah, I mean,

892
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I like I said, people don't realize how many guys,

893
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:35.079
<v Speaker 2>how many people we've been in the ring with. Man,

894
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, I can tell you that I can

895
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>just go off. Roujo Brothers, Heart Foundation, British Bulldogs. You

896
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.920
<v Speaker 2>named the tag team we went against them? All Money,

897
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, dB Irs, you know what

898
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, The Windham Brothers, the Malinkos, the Fantastics, the

899
00:50:55.159 --> 00:51:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Rock and Roll Express, Steiners, Lesion of Doom. You name

900
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 2>the tag team we went against them.

901
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 3>It's really hard to say, you know, it's fair Scully.

902
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 3>Any last questions before we start wrapping up.

903
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Not really. I was just gonna say, obviously, back when

904
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you as a team, there's a lot of proper tag teams,

905
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:24.480
<v Speaker 1>there isn't as many anymore. Why do you think the

906
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 1>tag team division's not as prominent?

907
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:29.639
<v Speaker 4>I guess, good question.

908
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember in Vince McMahon's mind, he would always

909
00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 2>be like, you know, I got to pay four guys

910
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 2>instead of two guys. You see what I'm saying. So

911
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 2>he was killing the he was killing the tag team

912
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 2>division when he CW was bringing the tag team division back. Okay,

913
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in W, CW was bringing it back. I mean when

914
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>they signed, when they were going to sign us, they

915
00:51:56.000 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 2>were signing us for the December pay per view was

916
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be our first night out, and they were

917
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 2>putting us against the Steiners and the Steiners were dropping

918
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:11.000
<v Speaker 2>the belts to the Pitbulls on Christmas Night pay per view.

919
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what they told us, and that's why we said, well,

920
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>sign a three year deal, no problem, because I knew

921
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:22.480
<v Speaker 2>once we signed that three year deal, I knew we

922
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.559
<v Speaker 2>would get another three year deal. I knew he would,

923
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.920
<v Speaker 2>so then we were going to retire and we were done,

924
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.679
<v Speaker 2>so unless Vince went to bring us back, like ninety eight,

925
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>he called us up. They put us against the head Bangers.

926
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>We had a pretty good match. I thought we had

927
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 2>a great match, very easy. They were going to put

928
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Terry Reynolds as our manager and they were supposed to

929
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.760
<v Speaker 2>bring us back, but then they never did. So that's

930
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:51.360
<v Speaker 2>when I moved to Melbourne, Australia, and I worked for

931
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Hardcore Championship Wrestling there and I was there for almost

932
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 2>a year, and we were the tag team champs there.

933
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And the guys that were there were no slouches. The

934
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Brothers were there, the Samoans were there, the Canadian

935
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:13.840
<v Speaker 2>tag team was there, the city else who else was there?

936
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 2>The Headhunters, I say the Headhunters. Headhunters. They had a

937
00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 2>good tag We had to get a really good tag

938
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>team division there. And they put the straps on us.

939
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Just like Puerto Rico. They put the straps on us. Man.

940
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.800
<v Speaker 2>We always, I don't care where we were, we got

941
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the straps, you know, especially down South. They threw the

942
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 2>belts on us in South Atlantic. You know, we were

943
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 2>in the stud stable with the with the tag belts,

944
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>nasty boys chasing us all. They always wanted the heels

945
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to hold the belts and have the baby faces chase them.

946
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That's how it was, old school style. So being a heeled,

947
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 2>they would always throw the belts on us, you know,

948
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>So it was cool. I had no problem with it.

949
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's valid. I really like that. And you know,

950
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll be honest with you. I feel like this is

951
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 3>the most genuine interview that I've had you seen. I'm

952
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.280
<v Speaker 3>like a very genuine person with all this information. You're

953
00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.079
<v Speaker 3>just giving it to us as it was from how

954
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 3>you were back then, and it's just how it is.

955
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like this, you know.

956
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't tell you what it did three

957
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 2>minutes ago, but I know I remember my that happened

958
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, man, you know what I mean?

959
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Like Sam Man always says, how do you get remembered

960
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>as shit? I'm like, I I mean, I get up

961
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>and go in the kitchen. I don't know what I

962
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 2>got up for, you know, because I've had so many concussions,

963
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>but I remember what happened in the past, which is

964
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy because a lot of guys, I mean, I could

965
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>see it on their face. They feel bad because they

966
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>don't remember, because that's how you messed up. We were

967
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 2>not much. We partied. I mean, you got to remember

968
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>when I was in the Vince McMahon's locker room in

969
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 2>they ate the late eighties. They didn't even have a

970
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>drug policy yet, they weren't even testing anybody yet. Okay,

971
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 2>it was insanity. Man. When I walked in that locker room,

972
00:54:56.360 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa, you know. And then eventually and

973
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 2>all the other locker rooms it wasn't like that. And

974
00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.079
<v Speaker 2>then next thing you know, I'm in the E. CW

975
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 2>locker room, And what a different locker room that was.

976
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean I was in the Philly Click,

977
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 2>so you know, we were like the city was me

978
00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.599
<v Speaker 2>and my partner, City Bro. I ran all the security

979
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and all the night clubs there. So anytime we were

980
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>in Philly and we went out afterwards, I would take

981
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.719
<v Speaker 2>everybody out with us, you know, and we'd get in

982
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the clubs for free. We drank for free. I mean,

983
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:32.519
<v Speaker 2>we had everything handed to us, you know what I'm saying.

984
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 2>That's why I remember, you know, Vince called us that

985
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 2>in ninety eight and we went I mean Dwayne to

986
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Rod Johnson I remember Dwayne when he was a little kid.

987
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.559
<v Speaker 2>He was like ten years old or something, you know,

988
00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:48.199
<v Speaker 2>or twelve years old, and I met him. Next thing

989
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I know, I see him in the locker room. He's

990
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:52.320
<v Speaker 2>a grown man now and he's like, come on, man,

991
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Pitt Bulls, you're gonna take me out. You're gonna take

992
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:56.639
<v Speaker 2>me out, right, take me out, Philly, show me a

993
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:59.679
<v Speaker 2>good time, you know. And I look at Anthony, I'm like,

994
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.199
<v Speaker 2>do I'm not. We're not taking you out, man. All

995
00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>we gotta do is take you out, and you get

996
00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.679
<v Speaker 2>in trouble. What's gonna happen? You know what I mean?

997
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Rocky Johnson's gonna be knocking on my door. Oh man,

998
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:12.800
<v Speaker 2>I ain't having that, you know what I mean. I

999
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 2>don't want to get in trouble. You know. Then Heartbreak

1000
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:18.639
<v Speaker 2>kid would be like, you know, Seawan Michaels. You know,

1001
00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, Marty told me about you guys. You

1002
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 2>know you guys are partiers. Man, You're gonna take me out,

1003
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 2>take me out. I look at my partner and I'll

1004
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.400
<v Speaker 2>be blunt. You know, why would I take Shawn Michaels out.

1005
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>So then the next day he tells everybody what we did,

1006
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, just to show on us, you know, make

1007
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>us get in trouble, and Vince don't want to hire us,

1008
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, So what do we do?

1009
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 2>We were tight with Steve Austin, he's my boy. You

1010
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.960
<v Speaker 2>would be at my house. He would come. Steve Austin

1011
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 2>would come hang out with me at my house before

1012
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.079
<v Speaker 2>we would go to the E CW Arena because I

1013
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:58.159
<v Speaker 2>was only about ten blocks away my house, So we

1014
00:56:58.239 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 2>would party at my place. Rick Rude Mango, anybody that

1015
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 2>went through ECW would always be at my house, in

1016
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the pit Bulls house, and we you know, and that's

1017
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 2>that's how it was. I mean, we had a reputation.

1018
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>If you're in Philadelphia, get with the pit Bulls and

1019
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have a good time. Hell yeah.

1020
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 3>But uh, all right, So we're getting towards the end

1021
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of the show here, So last question that we will

1022
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 3>ask you interview wise, sir, do you have any recommendations

1023
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 3>for the audience this week?

1024
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:27.920
<v Speaker 4>So it can be.

1025
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Anything, movie, TV show, video game, poem, recipe, food, cat breed.

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00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. Anything that really says something about you.

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00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Man. Well, I had to change my diet recently, and

1028
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I love pizza. So I decided what can I do

1029
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:48.039
<v Speaker 2>to satisfy that urge without get you know, without calls

1030
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>and problems than my health. So I buy a couple

1031
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:58.360
<v Speaker 2>pounds of ground chick in, put it in a pan,

1032
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 2>flatten it as flat as I possibly can. I bake that.

1033
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Take that out, so you got that's that instead of

1034
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 2>having dough, that's what I use chicken. Then I throw sauce, cheese,

1035
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 2>everything that you want on a pizza back in the

1036
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>oven for about fifteen to twenty minutes. Take it out.

1037
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like a chicken parm So you guys can eat

1038
00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.239
<v Speaker 2>your pizza cheat and still get your protein. So that's

1039
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 2>my secret recipe that I'm giving out to you guys. Awesome,

1040
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:36.000
<v Speaker 2>great right before I put it before I put my

1041
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 2>cookbook out. But don't forget brothers. Also, just so you know,

1042
00:58:41.239 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 2>I am interested in wrestling the Billington Boys. Really, yeah,

1043
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 2>I do have a I just signed a new tag

1044
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 2>team partner. He's pit Bull three because pit Bull two

1045
00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 2>did pass away in two thousand and three. So I

1046
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:00.199
<v Speaker 2>just signed finally a pit Bull three, and uh, we

1047
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 2>are interested in going against the Billington Boys, So step up,

1048
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.360
<v Speaker 2>shut up getting the ring with the pit Bulls. I

1049
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 2>think we'll make history like we did with the Bulldogs.

1050
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it would be a good thing. I love Dynamite.

1051
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>He was a really cool dude. I got along with

1052
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 2>him and Davy Boy very much. Also, I own the

1053
00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Women's Hall of Fame and I own the Tag Team

1054
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:37.159
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame. And we're gonna be inducting Soreya Page's mom, Julia.

1055
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Is that her name her first name?

1056
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

1057
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, We're gonna be inducting her into the Women's Wrestling

1058
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame, and we're gonna make her

1059
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 2>part of the pit Bulls Mad Dogs of War. So

1060
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.360
<v Speaker 2>when we need a girl, she's going to wrestle with us.

1061
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.079
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna use some England people with us. You

1062
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:58.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. Awesome?

1063
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Awesome, And where can some people reach you to talk

1064
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 3>about this kind of stuff. We're just get in contact

1065
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 3>with you.

1066
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just hit me up my Facebook page pit Bull,

1067
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 2>it says Gary Wolf, and you'll see me standing there. Also,

1068
01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I have an email pit Bull lowercase GW six seven

1069
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.719
<v Speaker 2>GW gmail dot com. Like I said, you guys are

1070
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 2>looking for a good read Amazon Walmart, you name it,

1071
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Barnes and Noble. Everybody's got my book out, Go get

1072
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the book. I'm trying to get number one. I'm a

1073
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.320
<v Speaker 2>number six right now out of wrestling books. I want

1074
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.119
<v Speaker 2>to get to be number one. So let's get that

1075
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to make that happen. I'm still doing signings.

1076
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm still doing wrestling in the ring. Any promoters need

1077
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 2>to get in touch with me, they can go through you.

1078
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:59.199
<v Speaker 2>You can contact me, brother, I have no problem with that.

1079
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Whatever goes to so o yeah, man, greatly appreciate it.

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01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Scully. Do you have any recommendations for this week?

1081
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1082
01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:11.199
<v Speaker 4>That's all right, I'll cover for you.

1083
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1084
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.079
<v Speaker 3>So I tried something interesting this week, something I never

1085
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 3>thought I would try. Kangaroo steak. If anybody can get

1086
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:19.079
<v Speaker 3>out there and get your hands on some give it

1087
01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:19.400
<v Speaker 3>a try.

1088
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 4>It's not bad, mister Wolf. Have you ever tried any No?

1089
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I did a Buffalo Burgers in California and they were amazing. Yeah,

1090
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I never did kangaroo. Some Owens took me out in Japan,

1091
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 2>me and my partner our first tour, and they ribbed us.

1092
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a little quick story. They ribbed us

1093
01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and said we're gonna buy steaks and we're like, oh cool,

1094
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you know. So you know, we eat like two each

1095
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and next thing, you know, we started feeling funny. We're like, man,

1096
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel right, you know, and he's like, well, yah,

1097
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:57.559
<v Speaker 2>and enough horse tonight for like two weeks. And I

1098
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:01.559
<v Speaker 2>was like what. He's like, yeah, you ate horse. I

1099
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.679
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, I got sick and throw

1100
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:06.360
<v Speaker 2>up man, because I felt like I was going to

1101
01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 2>pug anyway. So they got me good on that, me

1102
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>and my partner.

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01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.840
<v Speaker 4>So that's pretty odd.

1104
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't advise that. I don't advise that.

1105
01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I did eat some that was nice yesterday actually, which

1106
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I've never had. And it was called a two in

1107
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:27.559
<v Speaker 1>one pie, okay, So it was like in a big

1108
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>pot like this. We had it at like a pub

1109
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>restaurant near me, and it was eighteen pounds for a

1110
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:40.519
<v Speaker 1>large one. It's just like that. And it was half

1111
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 1>and half in the pot, so half of it I

1112
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 1>had steak and kidney in there and this half was

1113
01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 1>cauliflower and cheese, and then on the top of here

1114
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it had a bit of pastry and it was really nice.

1115
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 1>The only sad thing is it would have been better

1116
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>if I had pastry around the side as well.

1117
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:00.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was good to be good, sounds good.

1118
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's nice. I know I was very full up

1119
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 1>after having a couple of siders with it as well.

1120
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Of course that's about But all right, so Scully, where

1121
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 3>can the people reach you?

1122
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Men?

1123
01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, wherever they want on X which I don't really

1124
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>go on anymore. I'm on their Mike riscally eighty six,

1125
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'm also on TikTok as you know, I do

1126
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:38.400
<v Speaker 1>silly videos MAV and yeah, that's about it really, and

1127
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to make a Vessel Magic channel, aren't.

1128
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 4>We looking to at some point?

1129
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'd like to make a YouTube channel and a

1130
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 3>TikTok if we can soon. But yeah, enough about that

1131
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.880
<v Speaker 3>for the moment. You guys know where to reach me

1132
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.840
<v Speaker 3>at maintenance MAV on Twitter. Like I always say before

1133
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 3>signing off, do some nice for somebody. Never know who

1134
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:00.639
<v Speaker 3>needs it out there, somebody always.

1135
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Always be humble, guys always.

1136
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.679
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, definitely definitely. But yeah, no, where's are my

1137
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 3>friend Memphis Mark?

1138
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:08.760
<v Speaker 2>We're out.

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01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.400
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1140
01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:19.280
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1141
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:23.679
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1142
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.639
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1143
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:32.639
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