Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
Speaker 2: a newer entertainment property, and for this week of December sixteenth,
Speaker 2: we're discussing the seventh episode of the new season of Shrinking.
Speaker 2: It is called Get in the Sea, which we thought
Speaker 2: in fact a metaphor, in fact was not. They do
Speaker 2: end up in the sea. Basically many of the principal
Speaker 2: characters yes trying to determine help Brian with his conundrum
Speaker 2: of oh, guess what you've been matched with a birth
Speaker 2: mother you're having a baby tomorrow. Oh and yeah, not
Speaker 2: very likely. But of course this causes a great deal of.
Speaker 1: Strife, panic, and soul searching on Brian's part.
Speaker 2: Yes, he wanted his nine months. He did not get
Speaker 2: if he wants this at all. He wanted his nine months.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be able to prepare, you know, start
Speaker 1: spiraling in the cute way that Brian does. And Derek two,
Speaker 1: who still has not quite gone on a date with
Speaker 1: Gabby but could totally go on a date with Keisha
Speaker 1: if he was so inclined. Yes, he's he's fond of
Speaker 1: using the term he got in the sea about something,
Speaker 1: and you assume that it's like some management term.
Speaker 2: Right, some kind of business jargon.
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, But in fact he gets in the actual ocean,
Speaker 1: which with his coworkers nevermind. But in this case, you know,
Speaker 1: it's shrinking. It's cool, it's fine. Yeah, they can do
Speaker 1: what they want. But the most hilarious part is that
Speaker 1: Jimmy's patient. Uh, the guy with the glasses, I don't
Speaker 1: remember what his name is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even I'm sure he has a name,
Speaker 2: but they just call him.
Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, you would probably take that as, you know,
Speaker 1: just part of his lot people don't even know my
Speaker 1: name after they've seen me for a whole season. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's the one who comes up with the answer, which
Speaker 1: is that to ask Charlie how he feels about it.
Speaker 1: And Charlie also doesn't want it overnight. He needs his
Speaker 1: nine months, right, So they happily I us turned down
Speaker 1: that kid, right. But I know the feeling of that though,
Speaker 1: is that if you're going to do this and you don't,
Speaker 1: you're told it might take a long time, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, hey here right, you don't feel
Speaker 1: like you can say no.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know when we were before we got to going
Speaker 1: international adoption, we were with an organization that placed kids
Speaker 1: with special needs, and almost right away we got this
Speaker 1: referral for a baby that had some sort of mysterious
Speaker 1: genetic condition and they didn't really know what was wrong
Speaker 1: with it, but something was wrong with it. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: a baby, we could have a baby now, a little baby.
Speaker 1: We don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like a ticking time bomb, right, a baby.
Speaker 1: And so we you know, said okay, and then they said,
Speaker 1: oh no, we would never consider you for this. Why
Speaker 1: they send us the phone for this is over your head? Kids,
Speaker 1: pat pat pat.
Speaker 2: Was it some kind of a test to see if
Speaker 2: you I don't know, I mean have that own that way? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was it.
Speaker 1: This was an organization. They may have sent the or
Speaker 1: a full out to a bunch of people. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly how they worked it, but which may be
Speaker 1: the case with their adoption attorney too. But anyway, it's fraught,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yes, and you don't feel like
Speaker 1: you can say no, and you feel like you know
Speaker 1: this is a blessing. I should be happy even though
Speaker 1: it's not exactly perfectly the way I wanted it to be. Right,
Speaker 1: It's never exactly perfectly the way you wanted it to be.
Speaker 1: Maybe on TV it is being in Russia for a
Speaker 1: month wasn't exactly perfectly the way I wanted it to be,
Speaker 1: but it was okay.
Speaker 2: Well you were smart to uh to go for the
Speaker 2: two for one.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: No, Like, if you're going to be there for a month,
Speaker 2: you don't want to have to go back.
Speaker 1: That was my thought. It's like, if we get a
Speaker 1: kid and we bring her home, we're not going to
Speaker 1: want to leave her to go on another one of
Speaker 1: these trips, even if it doesn't take a month, even
Speaker 1: if it just takes two weeks, right, so we will
Speaker 1: take the two for one deal. Please pick her out
Speaker 1: a brother.
Speaker 2: All about efficiency, that's because parenting is a very efficient
Speaker 2: way to function.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, sure, but parenting wise. I thought it was
Speaker 1: amusing when Derek two, who was not even a shrink,
Speaker 1: says to Gabby's student Keisha, who's coming on to him,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your deal is, Keisha, but you
Speaker 1: should probably patch things up with your dad.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're always going to have daddy.
Speaker 1: On this shows. And then her face immediately falls and
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, yeah, yes, that was quite funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's uh could be the watchword for this show. It's
Speaker 1: always about bad, you know, always about dads. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Sean patched things up with his dad, and look at him.
Speaker 1: He's doing well, he's seeing his friend, he's you know,
Speaker 1: enjoying the fine music of summer by the way, the
Speaker 1: very delightful wrap the summer does, which I don't know,
Speaker 1: can I can we say it on this podcast?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's just say cheater Bee is now a full grown
Speaker 1: song on Apple Music with lyrics that are quite not
Speaker 1: safe for work. It's just I think they just took
Speaker 1: the sample of her of the actress doing that, and
Speaker 1: then the rest of it is somebody else. But you know,
Speaker 1: look it up.
Speaker 2: If you dare.
Speaker 1: I like things. I could like to have access to
Speaker 1: things like that to horrify my children with. So listen
Speaker 1: to this song that's on the show, Mommy.
Speaker 2: It's a cautionary tale in case any of them it is, yes,
Speaker 2: to cheat with their best friend's boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Fortunately, I don't think any of their friends have significant
Speaker 1: others to cheat with, nor would they. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let this be a less But I'm happy that Alice
Speaker 1: and Summer made up. Yes, and Summer has a plan
Speaker 1: for allowing Connor to return to her and good graces,
Speaker 1: although not without some stress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna make him suffer for a while first,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, And as Alice acknowledged, it was good dadding
Speaker 1: by Jimmy to help Alice realize that she's not the
Speaker 1: only one with problems and to think about other people
Speaker 1: what they might be going through. And then she quickly
Speaker 1: realizes that, oh yeah, Summer is I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we get a guess that Summer had a complex family situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just from the first time we met her, Right, this
Speaker 1: young lady does not have adequate adult supervision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is definitely clear.
Speaker 1: And then the plotline we've been dreading, yeah, finally comes along.
Speaker 1: From a parent point of view. It's good advice to say,
Speaker 1: there's not a secret I ever kept that. I didn't
Speaker 1: wish i'd told the person. Paul adds a F word
Speaker 1: there before person because this is shrinking. But I mean,
Speaker 1: that's good advice. Keeping secrets is always going to be
Speaker 1: a problem, and Liz absolutely should not have kept a secret.
Speaker 1: It's a secret from Derek, but it was still just
Speaker 1: excruciating to hear her tell him and to see how
Speaker 1: he reacted. And also, you know what another option is
Speaker 1: not doing in the first place.
Speaker 2: That's the better option. Well, and Paul did suggest that,
Speaker 2: but it would require a time machine, so that's the
Speaker 2: issue with that, she says.
Speaker 1: I think she says something like, is there another option?
Speaker 1: He says, well, we're getting close to space travel. Oh gosh, excellent,
Speaker 1: I mean, great work by Ted McGinley, just being so
Speaker 1: rightfully angry and cru crushed. Yeah, and also apropos of
Speaker 1: him using Cincinnati instead of Mississippi. What was it that
Speaker 1: Charlie used un lost the British version.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was like sugar plum fairy or something to
Speaker 2: have the just have four syllables. That's too long, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was another one. We'll have to we'll have
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Yeah, and and recall it next week.
Speaker 1: But I should have warned you before I asked you anyway,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's that's gonna be an interesting one. But oh, just
Speaker 1: asking asking about the kiss in that way to make it. Oh,
Speaker 1: oh gosh. I would have given anything not to have
Speaker 1: this plotline. Yeah, just awful.
Speaker 2: So and like, you know, it's not cool of Mac
Speaker 2: to be no taking advantage basically of her. I mean
Speaker 2: he can see obviously that she's struggling with something, and
Speaker 2: so yes, he just.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to acknowledge super slick movement putting
Speaker 1: up the dog pictures. That was just right nice work.
Speaker 2: But U s ob Yes, but.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that was a good call.
Speaker 2: It worked, Yes, it got you what you thought you wanted. Yes,
Speaker 2: but now you blew it up and write she'll she can't.
Speaker 2: She can't be coming back to that brewery and seeing
Speaker 2: her dog pictures anymore.
Speaker 1: I never want to see that character again. And yet
Speaker 1: like Josh Hopkins man, couldn't you just I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: time travel yep, yep, go back in time and make
Speaker 1: it not happened. But there was a recurring theme in
Speaker 1: this episode of people seeing each other in restaurants. We
Speaker 1: had Paul saw Liz with Mac when he was going
Speaker 1: in for his coffee with his old patient, right, and
Speaker 1: so they had a cute little scene with the two
Speaker 1: of them and Liz in which she called them Statler
Speaker 1: and Waldorf. Yes, and and they both acknowledged that, you know,
Speaker 1: excuse us, but Mac is not just looking to be friends,
Speaker 1: as was in fact the case. And that's probably Lis
Speaker 1: new but.
Speaker 2: Well she did know because she made like as Paul said,
Speaker 2: she made it a point to come in there and
Speaker 2: explain herself.
Speaker 1: Which guilty, Yes, exactly, you know, Paul has their number
Speaker 1: right at the start, but and then later inde at
Speaker 1: the end of the episode, Yes, Alice and Lewis and
Speaker 1: Brian are eating and I guess the same place that
Speaker 1: Jimmy and his patient were in the morning. It's with
Speaker 1: long tables, because I think that's where he dropped him off,
Speaker 1: at the same place he Oh, okay, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that would have been his anyway, Jimmy walks by
Speaker 1: this window and they happen to be sitting right like
Speaker 1: where you can see them clearly from the window, and
Speaker 1: so Jimmy sees them and is displeased, and they're all like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have to do something about this now. Alice has
Speaker 1: just said we really need to tell my dad, and hey,
Speaker 1: there you go, no need to tell. Saved yourselves an
Speaker 1: awkward conversation and set up another awkward conversation. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not going to go well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of betrayal in this Yes
Speaker 2: episode for sure.
Speaker 1: But you know, Jimmy, maybe you want to consider speech
Speaker 1: you gave earlier in the episode about how sometimes you're
Speaker 1: not the only one with problems, right, and that maybe
Speaker 1: you should consider other people's problems and then you can
Speaker 1: reconcile with them. I don't think he's going to give
Speaker 1: himself that speech, though he needs to hear it.
Speaker 2: Physician, heal thyself.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Yes, and yet they so they so rarely do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mm yeah, that was that was tough to see, Yes,
Speaker 2: just the look on his face realizing what's going on,
Speaker 2: you know, and coming right after Liz confessing to Derek yes,
Speaker 2: you know, it was like, wow, this tough episode. It's okay,
Speaker 2: just kick.
Speaker 1: The guts out of a couple of people.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: But two completely unimportant and unrelated points. But the first
Speaker 1: one is I want to know if Damon Wayne's junior
Speaker 1: has it in his contract that people have to say
Speaker 1: he's hot in the handsomeness over and over again, could
Speaker 1: they maybe not meet his price? And so they said, okay,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about you as being the most handsome
Speaker 1: dude in the world. Right, every line, every character will
Speaker 1: acknowledge your extreme hot list fatness, men, women, everybody. If
Speaker 1: there were children, they would go, wow, you're really good looking, sir.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean Keisha is almost a child.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right exactly. I mean, was he feeling
Speaker 1: down and they thought, come on, let's give this guy
Speaker 1: at a little positive attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because actors need and he goes it.
Speaker 1: I also want to know how Liz knows about all
Speaker 1: of Gabby's old boyfriends when they just became friends last
Speaker 1: season and she was getting divorced at that time.
Speaker 2: Right, ask questions we've seen even Derek about all of
Speaker 2: her boyfriends.
Speaker 1: Yes, how did she like have a photo album? And here,
Speaker 1: let's talk about my love life. Look at this dude.
Speaker 1: I didn't always have bad judgment and dake guys like Jimmy,
Speaker 1: look at this guy. And also there was a line
Speaker 1: from Derek to where he says he met Craig from
Speaker 1: Craig's List terrible dude. Yes, And the actual person I
Speaker 1: assumed to be the actual Craig from Craig's List tweeted
Speaker 1: how do you apologize to a fictional character? And Bill
Speaker 1: Lawrence retweeted it or responded to it. I can't remember
Speaker 1: which exactly, but you know, use actual living people in
Speaker 1: your jokes, and sometimes it's wait a minute.
Speaker 2: It sounds like he took it. Okay, he did.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: They're lucky if he did that. He said that about
Speaker 2: some other tech bros that wouldn't. That's true.
Speaker 1: It might not have gone so well. Oh well, So
Speaker 1: in other words, what we're saying is Craig from Craig's
Speaker 1: List not such a bad dude.
Speaker 2: No exactly, good sense of humor.
Speaker 1: That guy apparently so watches good shows, yes, good taste
Speaker 1: in streaming.
Speaker 2: Well, so we just have to hope that next week
Speaker 2: is a little more happy, fun sitcom question Mark today.
Speaker 1: Because it's it has no heavy weights from this episode
Speaker 1: to carry into next one, you know, right, Oh listen, uh, listen,
Speaker 1: Derek have talked it out. So that's all done. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that Jimmy will understand that sometimes you just
Speaker 1: did a restaurant with people. What do you want? Right,
Speaker 1: it'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll find out next week.
Speaker 1: What is the title of next week? Next so perhaps
Speaker 1: and we'll give a hint.
Speaker 2: It is called Last Drink. Oh so, I don't know
Speaker 2: that could have a lot of that has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with this these two plotlines. Maybe, So we'll see,
Speaker 2: but we'll return to that next Wednesday, and we will
Speaker 2: see you back here tomorrow for our weekly Roundabout roundup.
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