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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>a newer entertainment property, and for this week of December sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>we're discussing the seventh episode of the new season of Shrinking.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called Get in the Sea, which we thought

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<v Speaker 2>in fact a metaphor, in fact was not. They do

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<v Speaker 2>end up in the sea. Basically many of the principal

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<v Speaker 2>characters yes trying to determine help Brian with his conundrum

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<v Speaker 2>of oh, guess what you've been matched with a birth

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<v Speaker 2>mother you're having a baby tomorrow. Oh and yeah, not

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<v Speaker 2>very likely. But of course this causes a great deal of.

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<v Speaker 1>Strife, panic, and soul searching on Brian's part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he wanted his nine months. He did not get

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<v Speaker 2>if he wants this at all. He wanted his nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to be able to prepare, you know, start

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<v Speaker 1>spiraling in the cute way that Brian does. And Derek two,

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<v Speaker 1>who still has not quite gone on a date with

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<v Speaker 1>Gabby but could totally go on a date with Keisha

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<v Speaker 1>if he was so inclined. Yes, he's he's fond of

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<v Speaker 1>using the term he got in the sea about something,

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<v Speaker 1>and you assume that it's like some management term.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, some kind of business jargon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes exactly, But in fact he gets in the actual ocean,

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<v Speaker 1>which with his coworkers nevermind. But in this case, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's shrinking. It's cool, it's fine. Yeah, they can do

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<v Speaker 1>what they want. But the most hilarious part is that

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy's patient. Uh, the guy with the glasses, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what his name is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even I'm sure he has a name,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just call him.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Yeah, you would probably take that as, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just part of his lot people don't even know my

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<v Speaker 1>name after they've seen me for a whole season. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the one who comes up with the answer, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that to ask Charlie how he feels about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Charlie also doesn't want it overnight. He needs his

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<v Speaker 1>nine months, right, So they happily I us turned down

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<v Speaker 1>that kid, right. But I know the feeling of that though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you're going to do this and you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you're told it might take a long time, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, hey here right, you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you can say no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when we were before we got to going

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<v Speaker 1>international adoption, we were with an organization that placed kids

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<v Speaker 1>with special needs, and almost right away we got this

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<v Speaker 1>referral for a baby that had some sort of mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>genetic condition and they didn't really know what was wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but something was wrong with it. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, we could have a baby now, a little baby.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a ticking time bomb, right, a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we you know, said okay, and then they said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, we would never consider you for this. Why

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<v Speaker 1>they send us the phone for this is over your head? Kids,

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<v Speaker 1>pat pat pat.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it some kind of a test to see if

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<v Speaker 2>you I don't know, I mean have that own that way? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was an organization. They may have sent the or

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<v Speaker 1>a full out to a bunch of people. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly how they worked it, but which may be

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<v Speaker 1>the case with their adoption attorney too. But anyway, it's fraught,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. Yes, and you don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you can say no, and you feel like you know

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<v Speaker 1>this is a blessing. I should be happy even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly perfectly the way I wanted it to be. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's never exactly perfectly the way you wanted it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe on TV it is being in Russia for a

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<v Speaker 1>but it was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you were smart to uh to go for the

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<v Speaker 2>two for one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Like, if you're going to be there for a month,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to have to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my thought. It's like, if we get a

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave her to go on another one of

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<v Speaker 1>these trips, even if it doesn't take a month, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it just takes two weeks, right, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>take the two for one deal. Please pick her out

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<v Speaker 1>a brother.

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<v Speaker 2>All about efficiency, that's because parenting is a very efficient

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<v Speaker 2>way to function.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, sure, but parenting wise. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>amusing when Derek two, who was not even a shrink,

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<v Speaker 1>says to Gabby's student Keisha, who's coming on to him,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what your deal is, Keisha, but you

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<v Speaker 1>should probably patch things up with your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we're always going to have daddy.

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<v Speaker 1>On this shows. And then her face immediately falls and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yeah, yeah, yes, that was quite funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's uh could be the watchword for this show. It's

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<v Speaker 1>always about bad, you know, always about dads. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sean patched things up with his dad, and look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's doing well, he's seeing his friend, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the fine music of summer by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>very delightful wrap the summer does, which I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>can I can we say it on this podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say cheater Bee is now a full grown

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<v Speaker 1>song on Apple Music with lyrics that are quite not

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<v Speaker 1>safe for work. It's just I think they just took

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<v Speaker 1>the sample of her of the actress doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the rest of it is somebody else. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>If you dare.

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<v Speaker 1>I like things. I could like to have access to

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<v Speaker 1>things like that to horrify my children with. So listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this song that's on the show, Mommy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cautionary tale in case any of them it is, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>to cheat with their best friend's boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Fortunately, I don't think any of their friends have significant

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<v Speaker 1>others to cheat with, nor would they. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let this be a less But I'm happy that Alice

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<v Speaker 1>and Summer made up. Yes, and Summer has a plan

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<v Speaker 1>for allowing Connor to return to her and good graces,

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<v Speaker 1>although not without some stress.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's gonna make him suffer for a while first,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, And as Alice acknowledged, it was good dadding

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<v Speaker 1>by Jimmy to help Alice realize that she's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only one with problems and to think about other people

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<v Speaker 1>what they might be going through. And then she quickly

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<v Speaker 1>we get a guess that Summer had a complex family situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just from the first time we met her, Right, this

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is definitely clear.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the plotline we've been dreading, yeah, finally comes along.

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<v Speaker 1>From a parent point of view. It's good advice to say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a secret I ever kept that. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>there before person because this is shrinking. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good advice. Keeping secrets is always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a problem, and Liz absolutely should not have kept a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a secret from Derek, but it was still just

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<v Speaker 1>excruciating to hear her tell him and to see how

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<v Speaker 1>he reacted. And also, you know what another option is

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<v Speaker 1>not doing in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the better option. Well, and Paul did suggest that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would require a time machine, so that's the

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<v Speaker 2>issue with that, she says.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she says something like, is there another option?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, well, we're getting close to space travel. Oh gosh, excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, great work by Ted McGinley, just being so

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully angry and cru crushed. Yeah, and also apropos of

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<v Speaker 1>him using Cincinnati instead of Mississippi. What was it that

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie used un lost the British version.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was like sugar plum fairy or something to

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<v Speaker 2>have the just have four syllables. That's too long, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was another one. We'll have to we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure it out. Yeah, and and recall it next week.

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<v Speaker 1>But I should have warned you before I asked you anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati's that's gonna be an interesting one. But oh, just

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<v Speaker 1>asking asking about the kiss in that way to make it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh gosh. I would have given anything not to have

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<v Speaker 1>this plotline. Yeah, just awful.

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<v Speaker 2>So and like, you know, it's not cool of Mac

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<v Speaker 2>to be no taking advantage basically of her. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he can see obviously that she's struggling with something, and

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<v Speaker 2>so yes, he just.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got to acknowledge super slick movement putting

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<v Speaker 1>up the dog pictures. That was just right nice work.

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<v Speaker 2>But U s ob Yes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, that was a good call.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked, Yes, it got you what you thought you wanted. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but now you blew it up and write she'll she can't.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't be coming back to that brewery and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>her dog pictures anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to see that character again. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>like Josh Hopkins man, couldn't you just I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>time travel yep, yep, go back in time and make

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<v Speaker 1>it not happened. But there was a recurring theme in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode of people seeing each other in restaurants. We

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<v Speaker 1>had Paul saw Liz with Mac when he was going

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<v Speaker 1>in for his coffee with his old patient, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they had a cute little scene with the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them and Liz in which she called them Statler

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<v Speaker 1>and Waldorf. Yes, and and they both acknowledged that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse us, but Mac is not just looking to be friends,

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<v Speaker 1>as was in fact the case. And that's probably Lis

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<v Speaker 1>new but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well she did know because she made like as Paul said,

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<v Speaker 2>she made it a point to come in there and

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<v Speaker 2>explain herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Which guilty, Yes, exactly, you know, Paul has their number

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<v Speaker 1>right at the start, but and then later inde at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the episode, Yes, Alice and Lewis and

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<v Speaker 1>Brian are eating and I guess the same place that

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy and his patient were in the morning. It's with

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<v Speaker 1>long tables, because I think that's where he dropped him off,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same place he Oh, okay, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that would have been his anyway, Jimmy walks by

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<v Speaker 1>so Jimmy sees them and is displeased, and they're all like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do something about this now. Alice has

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<v Speaker 1>just said we really need to tell my dad, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, no need to tell. Saved yourselves an

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<v Speaker 1>awkward conversation and set up another awkward conversation. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a lot of betrayal in this Yes

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<v Speaker 2>episode for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, Jimmy, maybe you want to consider speech

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<v Speaker 1>you gave earlier in the episode about how sometimes you're

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<v Speaker 1>you should consider other people's problems and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>reconcile with them. I don't think he's going to give

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<v Speaker 2>Physician, heal thyself.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, Yes, and yet they so they so rarely do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm yeah, that was that was tough to see, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just the look on his face realizing what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and coming right after Liz confessing to Derek yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was like, wow, this tough episode. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just kick.

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<v Speaker 1>The guts out of a couple of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But two completely unimportant and unrelated points. But the first

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<v Speaker 1>he's hot in the handsomeness over and over again, could

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<v Speaker 1>they maybe not meet his price? And so they said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>dude in the world. Right, every line, every character will

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge your extreme hot list fatness, men, women, everybody. If

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<v Speaker 1>there were children, they would go, wow, you're really good looking, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean Keisha is almost a child.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right exactly. I mean, was he feeling

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because actors need and he goes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to know how Liz knows about all

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<v Speaker 1>of Gabby's old boyfriends when they just became friends last

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<v Speaker 2>Right, ask questions we've seen even Derek about all of

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, how did she like have a photo album? And here,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about my love life. Look at this dude.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't always have bad judgment and dake guys like Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this guy. And also there was a line

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<v Speaker 1>Craig's List terrible dude. Yes, And the actual person I

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<v Speaker 1>assumed to be the actual Craig from Craig's List tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>how do you apologize to a fictional character? And Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence retweeted it or responded to it. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>which exactly, but you know, use actual living people in

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<v Speaker 1>your jokes, and sometimes it's wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like he took it. Okay, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He did.

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<v Speaker 2>They're lucky if he did that. He said that about

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<v Speaker 2>some other tech bros that wouldn't. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It might not have gone so well. Oh well, So

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, what we're saying is Craig from Craig's

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<v Speaker 1>List not such a bad dude.

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<v Speaker 2>No exactly, good sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy apparently so watches good shows, yes, good taste

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<v Speaker 1>in streaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so we just have to hope that next week

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<v Speaker 2>is a little more happy, fun sitcom question Mark today.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's it has no heavy weights from this episode

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<v Speaker 1>to carry into next one, you know, right, Oh listen, uh, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek have talked it out. So that's all done. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that Jimmy will understand that sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>did a restaurant with people. What do you want? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll find out next week.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the title of next week? Next so perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll give a hint.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called Last Drink. Oh so, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that could have a lot of that has nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>do with this these two plotlines. Maybe, So we'll see,

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