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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's see if I remember how to do this

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<v Speaker 1>back inside here to get the desk and lighting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've even installed like new shelving since I did the lighting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh shoot, I got it. Readjust all this.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back here. Anthony was asking like, how long has

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<v Speaker 1>it been since you guys have done the show? Five weeks?

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<v Speaker 1>Last time Jason and I did a show was week fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>CFL been traveling a lot with work and talking with

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<v Speaker 1>Jason offline and obviously all the guys Anthony Miller, who

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling knows is going to be on here today. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of CFL been tracking everything. Just I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been home on a Monday since whatever the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I did it. So do the mat there. But we

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<v Speaker 1>are back here, Anthony. I traveled up to the Homeland.

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<v Speaker 1>I have my football Canada that had on. I did

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing this weekend. I really did think that

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up not having time Friday night, but I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna post something that like if the Lions lost,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna eat poutine because we've had all these

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<v Speaker 1>things lately, Like you know, if MSU lose, is we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eat dog poop whatever, I was gonna do that

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<v Speaker 1>because I figure that's the closest thing Canada has right

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I won't say that, but we have Anthony Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Howard, you ser hopping on here today scheduling issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason couldn't make it all, but Anthony's here.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciating on Everything is good. CFL seasons coming to

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<v Speaker 2>a close. We're in the final week, so playoffs are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interesting. I know we got some seating

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to kind of figure out. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a wild ride this season for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we'll do we'll kind of do a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive here, a little bit into, you know, just the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend games. We'll do full play by play. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the BC Lions game, share thoughts on that, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of thoughts on Nathan Mork and Brendan Adams and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hung out with Farhan and Jim Mullen. I saw Blake,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other CFL content creators at CFL fan Fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as the account saw them as well. I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking care of as always by the BC Allions.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see here. Plan is in some form or fashion

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<v Speaker 1>doing shows here. The rest of the time through Great Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>like and subscribe if you're in tuned with that, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what we're doing kind of off season. I

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<v Speaker 1>know Jason and I have kind of batted back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth of like that's kind of a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I've just been crazy busy. I haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>time to think about it. But we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>lock steam here. So like I said, make sure you subscribe,

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<v Speaker 1>applied everything for credentials. We'll see how that goes. Haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been as active this season. They didn't get involved in

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that partner program was. That's okay, that's okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>next year, but we'll be there in some form of

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<v Speaker 1>fashion Gray Cup. I know the BC Lions are going

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<v Speaker 1>to play the SUP at Radio Row. I'm sure Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>can call in. I know Jason's going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>and Evan and I think Andy's coming. I haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>gotten the whole lift, but we'll do all that big blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>So like when subscribe, Anthony, you know you right if

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<v Speaker 1>no one has tracked and I can't imagine him listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this, hasn't tracked Anthony with everything at Sports Illustrated

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<v Speaker 1>and Fandation and all that stuff. Extensive work covering everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you follow his stuff off there in the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts here of the season, you know, Winnipeg still in front,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you think here? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>we've had you on one of these recaps, so kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like bird's eye view thirty thousand feet, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the I would say the Winnipeg's been the

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<v Speaker 2>most impressive team.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you talk about a team that started two

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<v Speaker 3>and six. Everyone thought Zach Klaris was washed.

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<v Speaker 2>This was an offense that was could not get anything

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<v Speaker 2>going in the passing game, even though their defense was

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<v Speaker 2>still among one of the best. But they hunk tough

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<v Speaker 2>and they were able to kind of ride out the

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<v Speaker 2>season and now they're on top of the West Division

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<v Speaker 2>and really one went away from winning the West Division titles.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been very impressed with what Winnipeg's done. Sasketchewe,

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<v Speaker 2>I really think Corey Mays needs to be up for

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year. I think he's done a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>job with the Saskatchewan team. This was a defense last

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<v Speaker 2>year one of the worst in the league, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to, you know, have him in the top four,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, consistently throughout the season, the job he's done

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, Trevor Harris, he has shown some improvement

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<v Speaker 2>this season. Uh, this is a very balanced offense and

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<v Speaker 2>defense between Saskatchewan and they've really come on strong here

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<v Speaker 2>late in the season. So, I mean the West Division,

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<v Speaker 2>I know the records don't really show like it's that great,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a it's been a really competitive division and

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot more talent there than we think.

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say, like kudos to Hamilton. I really

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<v Speaker 2>think this has probably been the best team in the

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<v Speaker 2>CFL over the last month or I think on a

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<v Speaker 2>they've won for the last five games. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>team that you know, unfortunately they got hot at the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong time, but you know, they've been super competitive throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the last month or two. Bow Levi Mitchell has been great.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of found a resurgence in his career. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a month ago I was called for maybe Bo to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe retire at the end of the season, go join

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<v Speaker 2>TSN and started his broadcasting career. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's shown to probably be the most consistent quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in the CFL and probably has bought himself another year

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<v Speaker 2>or two if he wanted to play in this league.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a shame that Ottawa is in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll be honest with you, I would rather see

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton in the playoffs because I think that team is

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<v Speaker 2>better overall offensively and defensively than the Red Blacks are,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since Chris Jones joined to do the defensive play calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I know Eminton Elt fans are kind of still have

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<v Speaker 2>their feelings about him, but he has done a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for this Hamilton defense. I think they're allowing five or

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<v Speaker 2>and they weren't before him.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, those are the teams I've been most impressed with.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's disappointed that Hamilton's on the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>because I really think they probably deserve it right now

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<v Speaker 2>over Ottawa.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's I know we've Jason and I have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that before, both online and off of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a shame that Hamilton always seems to start so slow.

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<v Speaker 1>I just because they really dug themselves so much of

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<v Speaker 1>a hole here earlier in the season right to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to come out and do that now. And like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, with Ottawa and we were tracking what was

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<v Speaker 1>that the earlier in the game Saturday when I was

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<v Speaker 1>Lions game and all that, and we had it up

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I'm like, uh, you know, for a

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<v Speaker 1>game that really could have got you home field advantage here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you they do really well at home right

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<v Speaker 1>kind of support their fans really came out laid egg.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it looked closer at the end, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk through all that, but yeah, I really felt like

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<v Speaker 1>and then, like you said, with Saskatchewan, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>started hot right well were they four and oh five

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<v Speaker 1>and zero? And then really, you know, Trevor Harris, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the injuries, all that really kind of slumped and

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<v Speaker 1>they're really the resurgence here to hold on the second place.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know a lot of people aren't very

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<v Speaker 1>high on BC's chances going in there and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win and then go to Winnipeg. I guess we'll kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do a playoff preview later, but thoughts on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much better do you think Saskatchewan is

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<v Speaker 1>in BC right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, defensive way Saskatchewan is better than where BC's at.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all season, like the Lions have good individual players,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know TJ. Lee has been kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>and Ben that linebacker or like two of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're two of probably the best players on that defense.

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<v Speaker 3>But that secondary is an absolute mess.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that that defense has been prone to allowing

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<v Speaker 2>big plays all season long, and it's really hurt this

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<v Speaker 3>Especially Like even at the beginning of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Season when Verdon Adams and that offense was really rolling

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<v Speaker 2>for them, they still had a lot of issues on

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<v Speaker 2>that defensive side of the ball. And you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>could have done probably a lot more in the offseason

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of offset that, but they just didn't do enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what's ultimately going to cost them,

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<v Speaker 2>is that they just don't have enough playmakers on that

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side. And even with Matthew Betts, Like Matthew Betts

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<v Speaker 2>has actually been disappointing. He's only had one sack in

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<v Speaker 2>the last what four or five games that since he's

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<v Speaker 2>returned to BC, Like he hasn't really been an impac player.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sure the Lions were hoping for it, so

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, they they they were too late on

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<v Speaker 2>Urick and Matthew Betts because those guys I haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>played as well and they spend all this money on

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<v Speaker 2>them and it just hasn't really recuperated for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're gonna need to do a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of work in the offseason because I'm not sure what

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<v Speaker 2>have well, and BC.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really that I don't know. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>a deep guy here in a minute talking all this

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<v Speaker 1>and Nathan and everything else, but yeah, you wonder, at

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<v Speaker 1>what point is it kind of a sunk costs And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're hosting the Great Cup and you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>all this and you're spending all this money. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're setting this stuff up now, especially with Nathan's contract,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going into the next two years, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't done now, and you couldn't get it done two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and I know Nathan was sure, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't pay Nathan fifty thousand dollars and have all

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<v Speaker 1>Star wide receivers around him and now then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be paying him the highest paid player of the league,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're still wanting to replicate that, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know. I mean, I talk about disappointing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions, and I've told Jason offline, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were doing podcasts every week the last month. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have gotten in trouble with things I said, just

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<v Speaker 1>of how upset that I've been about it everything, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's really been disappointing, and even talking and I

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<v Speaker 1>won't say names, but we went to far Han's party.

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<v Speaker 1>Far Han, a friend of the show, got inducted into

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<v Speaker 1>the BC Football Hall of Fame with his after party

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<v Speaker 1>talking with some of the people from the team, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, what do you and like they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even really want to talk about anything, and you know, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're kind of okay, Like this feels like

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a cluster right now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of interesting to kind of get the

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll go chronologically through here Bo coming back

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<v Speaker 1>in playing the game of his lifetime. Here I guess right,

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<v Speaker 1>big Bo revenge game. What did you make of that?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to do a super deep die, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Bo looks like the best quarterback in the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a good revenge game for him, especially

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<v Speaker 2>since Hamilton lost to Calgary at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>season and both didn't really look back great in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was a massive bounce back for game from

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<v Speaker 2>especially since a couple of weeks ago Hamilton got the

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<v Speaker 2>needed this one to kind of build some momentum into

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what pieces they have because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure this, I'm sure Hamilton about you know, since you

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<v Speaker 2>since the last time you were on Hamilton was a

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<v Speaker 2>mess and it looked like Taylor Powell was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the future quarterback of this franchise. Now they're probably thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe we have one more season with Bo because

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<v Speaker 2>he's looked like the most consistent quarterback in the league. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's had his off moments, but this was probably his

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<v Speaker 2>best game of the season. You know, he had the

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<v Speaker 2>He did have the one ugly floater that was intercepted

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<v Speaker 2>the second towards the end of the second quarter, but

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<v Speaker 2>really outside of that, he was lights out. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I mean ton of critic to Greg Bell one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty nine yards rushing for him. He had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the lineup. Greg Bell has been a great complimentary piece

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<v Speaker 2>for them. The two of them combined make for a

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<v Speaker 2>really good running game, and I think that's what's really

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<v Speaker 2>helped Hamilton in this backstretch of the season is that

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<v Speaker 2>they have a really balanced attack between you know, running

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and passing the ball, and then again defensively

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<v Speaker 2>there this is a big improvement for them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>twenty points might be the lowest amount of points they've allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>more one of the lowest points they've allowed all season.

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<v Speaker 2>I think major credit has to go to Chris Jones

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<v Speaker 2>for the job that he's really done with the defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really think he's earned the right to if

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to make him the defensive coordinator for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five I think he's earned that right. But also

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<v Speaker 2>it's a telling sign for Calgary. I mean, what a

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<v Speaker 2>disappointing season has been for Calgary and what a downfall

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<v Speaker 2>for this franchise. I mean, this was a franchise that

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't missed the playoffs in what twenty years since two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four, and now they're, you know, the worst

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<v Speaker 2>team in the CFL. I mean, there's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of questions about Dave Dickinson and if

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<v Speaker 2>he should be even keeping his job. And if he

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll probably be on the hottest seat in the

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<v Speaker 2>CFL going into the next year. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>this game was more about how much of a mess

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<v Speaker 2>Calgary is versus how good Hamilton is, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>people already knew that like Hamilton and has turned the

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<v Speaker 2>page over the last month. But it was more about

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<v Speaker 2>can Calgary be competitive against team that's out of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and clearly they showed they have a lot of problems.

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<v Speaker 1>To them well, and that's the I the issue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's many issues with the CFL nine teams and the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs and all the things and the divisions all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but talking and when we were up in Vancouver, Evan

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<v Speaker 1>and Evan was traveling today or I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>have tried to pop in as well. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have six teams make the playoffs out of

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<v Speaker 1>nine every year, you know, to use that as a

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<v Speaker 1>benchmark of success is interest, you know, is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that is the right benchmark. And we've had

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Valentine on the front of the program and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with three down and writes for cal you know about

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<v Speaker 1>Calgary and all that, and like even last year as well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but we did make the playoffs. Go yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you get bounced immediately. That doesn't it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak to me a success. And like if you said

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<v Speaker 1>in here, seeing them, you know, regress even more this season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they really didn't do anything last year except

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just further extend maybe some of these coaching

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<v Speaker 1>stuff some things into this year, as you mentioned, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the hot seat there. But it just seems that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like they didn't look good last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of eke in and your cure is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the long term decisions of that same with Hamilton,

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<v Speaker 1>like Okay, Bo looks good. Now we're were really get

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<v Speaker 1>to devote another year to him? Like statistically you would

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<v Speaker 1>say probably right, and I think he's the past five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand yards And I like that kind of the social

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<v Speaker 1>media they clip how to him, like how did it

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<v Speaker 1>feel to beat your former team? He's like it felt

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<v Speaker 1>really good or whatever he said. And I like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some of that personality because I think he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been drug through the ringer here the last few months

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<v Speaker 1>and years is kind of with the injuries and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't you know, you get these late season

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<v Speaker 1>kind of burst and then okay, do we you hold

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<v Speaker 1>on to that promise to next year? I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>saw like I was just watching first take talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets and things, and you know, okay with Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>still you know, got hurt last year. Okay, we hold

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<v Speaker 1>on that faith againto next year. And then it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a dangerous situation when you're putting in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of planning the year out of these things

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll know where they're going to come about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I mean last year they went six

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<v Speaker 2>and twelve, Like even if they made the playoffs, It's

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<v Speaker 2>like that's not even a good record, Like that's one

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<v Speaker 2>that's the worst record they had in over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like that that doesn't I mean, yes, they

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<v Speaker 2>made the playoffs, but I don't really think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Should count for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this team has been a decimated mess since bo

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<v Speaker 2>Levi Mitchell left.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Jake Mayer was supposed to be the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't even know if you bring him back

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<v Speaker 2>next year. I think they probably do, just because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Dickinson ends up you sticking around as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to have somebody who's familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker is gonna come in there and compete. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he could be the guy who ends up taking this job.

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<v Speaker 2>But Calgary has to do something about quarterback because that's

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<v Speaker 2>where they're the biggest mess right now. Like Ddrich Mills,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's perfectly fine as a running back. He's

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<v Speaker 2>top five running back in this league. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>have some good receivers on that team. You know, overall

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<v Speaker 2>think offensively they have some of the pieces there. They

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have a quarterback. And obviously Matthew Schultz is

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<v Speaker 2>not the guy. You know, they brought him in the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the season. They brought him in the offseason

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<v Speaker 2>thinking he was gonna push Jake Mayer. That that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really push the needle at all. Even though I think

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Mayer played better this year than he did last year,

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<v Speaker 2>I still think like the quarterback position is something they

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<v Speaker 2>got to take care of. So, you know, do they

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<v Speaker 2>bring someone into the off season, you know, maybe Verim

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<v Speaker 2>Adams if he ends up being available, do you bring

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<v Speaker 2>him in. You know, they have PJ Walker, who's good,

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<v Speaker 2>I think legitimately going to be the guy who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to push Jake Mayer, and I think it's better than

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Mayor. So I think that's where kind of Calgary stands.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to figure out who their quarterback is next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I like that for PG Walker and we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that. What was that a week or two

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<v Speaker 1>ago he got added on there and obviously kind of

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<v Speaker 1>late this year. I don't know if we see him

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<v Speaker 1>elevated to try to get him any sort of whatever

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<v Speaker 1>before the end of the season. But Calgary needs to

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out. And I'm curious, like you said, with

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<v Speaker 1>the hot seat there, you know, we'll we'll talk lions

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<v Speaker 1>here in the minute with you know, Rick Campbell and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Like, you know, the CFL isn't a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reactionary as the NFL, where you and maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL is two reactionary when you look at like David

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<v Speaker 1>Temper or things like that out like okay, you're out,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out. We need someone else needs and us where

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know if if BC wins one playoff game,

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<v Speaker 1>do we keep Rick back next year after all this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I and we'll talk. I don't know right in this,

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<v Speaker 1>like do we have other options here? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>big waiting list of people that want to show up

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Calgary Sam Peters head coach? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>elevate someone with BC? Ryan Phillips looked like he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, coaching his way or coordinating his

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<v Speaker 1>way into being the head coach BC defense. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put him on a high list right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm curious where we go with that where it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's not complacency, but it's like well whether

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess it is, because like there'd be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more work to try to figure out someone

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<v Speaker 1>else here like, I guess we'll just try to work

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<v Speaker 1>with what we have.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both with BC and Calgary situation, you need

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who knows offense. You need somebody who could be

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<v Speaker 2>able to develop a quarterback because you know, with BC

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<v Speaker 2>you have all the pieces of place. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line is to miss. You know, the defense needs

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<v Speaker 2>to add some pieces. But you need somebody who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to come in there and fixinate the Rourk because ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, he's probably gonna end up

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<v Speaker 2>being the starter in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll talk about that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But Calgary same thing, like, you need somebody who knows

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback position and can bring either bring someone in

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<v Speaker 2>or you develop Jake Mayer or you develop PJ. Walker

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<v Speaker 2>into that starter. I think with Walker, you I don't

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Hamilton with Tulio Taco Viola, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to put someone in there right away that comes

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<v Speaker 2>from the US game and try to learn the Canada game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just too complicated. You need to give

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<v Speaker 2>him more time to learn it. So I don't anticipate PJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker playing this year, but he should compete for a

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<v Speaker 2>starting job. And I again, I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>bring in Jake Mayor, I think you maybe go to

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<v Speaker 2>the free agency, maybe find somebody else. But right now,

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<v Speaker 2>with the quarterbacks that are on the roster, I would

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<v Speaker 2>definitely be wrong with PJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Walker. I think he's quite far the best option.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and he's you know, it's kind of that last

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I just I don't know, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was earlier this season they had batted

421
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<v Speaker 1>around maybe it was Naylor someone like, you know, the

422
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<v Speaker 1>kind of the QB college like kind of coaching thing,

423
00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:10.000
<v Speaker 1>similar to like how the the XFL would do with

424
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<v Speaker 1>James Palmer right going in there and bring it right,

425
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<v Speaker 1>am I making up all this in my head, like, oh.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Palmer, Yeah, Jordan Palmer, the development of I don't know,

427
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<v Speaker 2>some development, quarterback development or something like that.

428
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<v Speaker 1>But they were talking about that, like doing it with

429
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<v Speaker 1>the CFL as well. And I remember when Naylor was

430
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<v Speaker 1>on I think it was two seasons ago we were

431
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<v Speaker 1>talking USFL. He's like, well, it's so hard to come

432
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<v Speaker 1>into the CFL and it really takes you three four

433
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<v Speaker 1>years to kind of really get into it, and it's

434
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<v Speaker 1>a really hard game to learn. It's really hard to

435
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<v Speaker 1>get used to, you know. Yeah, like you said, okay,

436
00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:41.039
<v Speaker 1>so we don't want to throw PJ in there, but like,

437
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<v Speaker 1>if you have this program where you could work with

438
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<v Speaker 1>people in the off season, right, if you you get

439
00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.240
<v Speaker 1>PJ and you get two of you know, Tooya whatever,

440
00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I can never say these things, but you'll get these

441
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<v Speaker 1>guys in there and kind of be able to develop them.

442
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<v Speaker 1>So maybe it won't take you five years to be

443
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<v Speaker 1>a starting quarterback in the league. Yeah, maybe you can

444
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<v Speaker 1>do it in two years. I just I think we

445
00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>need to see that next progression of these quarterbacks is

446
00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like you said, kind of shuffling around. We do keep

447
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<v Speaker 1>Mayor back. I think we've seen everything we're going to

448
00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:09.799
<v Speaker 1>see from him. You see a spark, you know, two

449
00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.079
<v Speaker 1>out of every seven eight times, and then the rest

450
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<v Speaker 1>of it is just kind of a mess.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Well, the league I think needs some kind of coach

452
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<v Speaker 2>to develop quarterbacks, especially in Canada. Like if they really

453
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<v Speaker 2>want to they you know, Canada loves trede Ford, they

454
00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.519
<v Speaker 2>love Nathan Worke, they love their Canadian quarterbacks. So I

455
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<v Speaker 2>think if the league really wants to take the quarterback

456
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<v Speaker 2>position seriously and try to develop like homegrown guys, they

457
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<v Speaker 2>definitely need somebody like that just for Canadian quarterbacks. Like

458
00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I remember covering the CFL draft this year, there was

459
00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:43.359
<v Speaker 2>only like two or three quarterbacks that actually went to

460
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<v Speaker 2>the combine, like they they didn't have really any quarterbacks

461
00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.640
<v Speaker 2>coming in there, and that's a position that I think

462
00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.799
<v Speaker 2>is in desperate need of an uplift, especially you know,

463
00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.400
<v Speaker 2>from the homegrown side of it.

464
00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:56.640
<v Speaker 3>So I think if you really.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Want to push for you know, to try to get

466
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<v Speaker 2>better quarterback developed, the people that were within your country already,

467
00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:05.519
<v Speaker 2>get get more Canadian quarterbacks in there, because right now

468
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<v Speaker 2>it's the majority of it is Americans, and you know,

469
00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:10.079
<v Speaker 2>it may take them a little bit to ramp up,

470
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<v Speaker 2>but it's just a matter of fact that most you know,

471
00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.359
<v Speaker 2>American quarterbacks are just playing better in the CFL than Canadians,

472
00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's just because of how they're developed, you know,

473
00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.440
<v Speaker 2>going up in the rankings of high school and college

474
00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:25.079
<v Speaker 2>but the CFL desperately needs it if they want to

475
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<v Speaker 2>get more Canadians in this league.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Anything else, Calgary, anything else, Hamilton here, I kind of

477
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<v Speaker 1>end of the season for both of them. I do

478
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<v Speaker 1>want to talk anything else with them before we kind

479
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<v Speaker 1>of move on to some of these other teams.

480
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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean, I'm just impressed with Hamilton. You know,

481
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<v Speaker 2>they got a really interesting game to close out the

482
00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>season against to Ottawa. I think they have a chance

483
00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to really prove that maybe Ottawa shouldn't be in the playoffs,

484
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.160
<v Speaker 2>it should be them instead. So I think for both teams,

485
00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.000
<v Speaker 2>they need wins to close out the season to kind

486
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<v Speaker 2>of build some momentum. I think probably more Calgary than anything.

487
00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they haven't won a game in what two months, probably,

488
00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.680
<v Speaker 2>so they desperately need to get some kind of win

489
00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.799
<v Speaker 2>on the board so they can have something to celebrate

490
00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:09.920
<v Speaker 2>over the off season. So now, very impressed with Hamilton.

491
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<v Speaker 2>This is a really good football team and I think

492
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<v Speaker 2>they're better than what people think.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got to come in here. I see if

494
00:21:15.519 --> 00:21:17.480
<v Speaker 1>on need to focus more on U sports Kibis. Yeah,

495
00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>there's like I think there's all this weird like CFL

496
00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and they want to do. Like I I hear en

497
00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of behind the scenes with friends of the show

498
00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:27.799
<v Speaker 1>that kind of work with amateur football college. I don't know,

499
00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:29.799
<v Speaker 1>there's always seems to be a lot of egos and

500
00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>budding heads and things and working together. I don't know

501
00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:33.960
<v Speaker 1>if I'm kind of reading into that wrong, but yeah,

502
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<v Speaker 1>I just like I even when we were up in

503
00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Canada this weekend and talking like spoiler alert, nobody I

504
00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:41.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to watch is the CFL, like know what? Like

505
00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk to anyone. I even we went to

506
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<v Speaker 1>the what I'll chronicle my travels here in the midt,

507
00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.119
<v Speaker 1>But you know, even like we went to the bar yesterday,

508
00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>we went both days to watch football and I'm talking

509
00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:56.640
<v Speaker 1>with you know, the manager. He's like, oh, yeah, we

510
00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:58.599
<v Speaker 1>don't like I don't whether you you know, I was

511
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<v Speaker 1>talking to the past four guy that we back lass.

512
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<v Speaker 1>I checked, like, well what we're what were you here from? Like, oh,

513
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:05.559
<v Speaker 1>the CFL game is like the Seattle game, like you know,

514
00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the CFL like the football BC, Like you know, they

515
00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the point is like it's interesting talking through and they're

516
00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to people about yes, like more like more Americans

517
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<v Speaker 1>succeed up there because of the strength of our college

518
00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:23.839
<v Speaker 1>programs and they have the ratio and because they wanted

519
00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.240
<v Speaker 1>to protect those and that's important, and you know, having

520
00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>these conversations with people, it's always interesting because yeah, they're like, well,

521
00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.440
<v Speaker 1>what is there a lot of Americans? Like, yeah, it's

522
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.119
<v Speaker 1>actually a lot, you know, just because like you said,

523
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:34.759
<v Speaker 1>because of all that and because we're able to come

524
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<v Speaker 1>up and kind of get going better, let's talk through

525
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>argos and Red Black Cheer, we can touch based on

526
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>all of those. Uh. Disappointing for the Red Black Cheer

527
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:47.559
<v Speaker 1>losing this uh being able to kind of host the game.

528
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I know, Bemo Field right opened up by saw. Mike

529
00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Cogan tweeted they were opening up more seats for the game.

530
00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.519
<v Speaker 1>So that was good in Toronto. Get a little bit

531
00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of juice for this one. But I would certainly like

532
00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.599
<v Speaker 1>to see Ottawa host the playoff game. Thoughts on this one.

533
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<v Speaker 2>It's very ironic that Ottawa for like three straight weeks

534
00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.559
<v Speaker 2>had an opportunity to win and get into the playoffs

535
00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't do it. And on their bye week

536
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:09.960
<v Speaker 2>is when they make the playoffs. Like, this team hasn't

537
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.279
<v Speaker 2>won since I want to say September seven. I think

538
00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:14.559
<v Speaker 2>he's been over a month since Ottawa's last one A game,

539
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:18.960
<v Speaker 2>so they've been they've been wildly disappointing, and honestly, Toronto

540
00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 2>has been very impressive. Chad Kelly has really come around

541
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:24.759
<v Speaker 2>the last four to five games. I think he's grown

542
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:27.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe six touchdowns, two picks in the last four or

543
00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>five games. He has played a lot better over the

544
00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>last few weeks for Toronto. And that defense for the

545
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Argonauts have been really good. I think that's what's really

546
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 2>propelled them. That defensive line is just very stout. I mean,

547
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>they do a great job of getting pressure on the quarterbacks.

548
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:47.599
<v Speaker 2>So major kudos to Toronto. I think they've won three

549
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.359
<v Speaker 2>straight after going after being like seven and seven at

550
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.359
<v Speaker 2>one point, so I thought they've played really well Ottawa.

551
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's disappointing because I think at one

552
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>point Ottawa was what seven three and one or something

553
00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.519
<v Speaker 2>like that, like they were, they were one of the

554
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>top teams in this league. And you know, I think

555
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 2>problem is, you know, losing Darius Pickett on the defensive

556
00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>side of the ball was really big for them. They

557
00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:09.599
<v Speaker 2>kind of lost their leader who has been, you know,

558
00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.319
<v Speaker 2>leading the team in tackles and they they've lost that

559
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>boost on the defensive side because that's where they've taken

560
00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:14.839
<v Speaker 2>a big hit.

561
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I think the.

562
00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Receiving corps is really good, you know. I think another

563
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.480
<v Speaker 2>big thing with Ottawa. You know, I don't know what

564
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:25.119
<v Speaker 2>happened with the way Kwan ray Kwon Armstead situation. Like

565
00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.880
<v Speaker 2>I know there was something some you know rumors about,

566
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, having issues with I don't know the coaches

567
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.440
<v Speaker 2>or that. I don't know what it is. But ever

568
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 2>since they released him, they have no running game. I mean,

569
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Ottawa cannot run the ball for their lives. And the

570
00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>disappointing thing is they're asking a young quarterback like Drew

571
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Brown who's in his first full year as a starter,

572
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and being like, hey, I need you to carry this team.

573
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Drew Brown is not in the place right now where

574
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>he can carry a full team. He's got the talent,

575
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I really think he can be a starting quarterback

576
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:54.799
<v Speaker 2>in the CFL, and I think he's got a bright future.

577
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>But it's the first full year and he's being asked

578
00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.319
<v Speaker 2>to kind of carry this team and he you know,

579
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.880
<v Speaker 2>he's taken a ton of hits. You know, he's been

580
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>stacked quite a bit. He's been injured a couple of

581
00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>times this year, like it really hasn't It's been kind

582
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:09.519
<v Speaker 2>of an up and down season for him. I think

583
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:13.599
<v Speaker 2>there's good potential there, but I mean, I know, like

584
00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>not to call out the professor, but Andy Burry's like, oh,

585
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>he threw four and three yards and four touchdowns in

586
00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the game. He played really well, and I was like, yeah,

587
00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 2>but that was all like garbage time points, Like they

588
00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>scored twenty five points in the fourth quarter. The is

589
00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 2>just pretty much, you know, packed it in in the

590
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter and just let them come back. So I

591
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 2>don't really think that's really telling the full story. Like

592
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I think he's good. I think he had a good game,

593
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, you know, most of that came in

594
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter. So you know, yeah, Ottawa's been, you know,

595
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the surprise teams of the season, but this

596
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 2>late season dropped for them is kind of what we've

597
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 2>seen with Ottawa over the last couple of years. And

598
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I sincerely hope it can you know, bounce back,

599
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>have a good last week of the season against Hamilton

600
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>and going to the playoffs with some kind of momentum

601
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>where they're gonna have to travel to Toronto again in

602
00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:58.839
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks.

603
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:02.079
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing you have, you know, Bob Dice

604
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>there and like I hear both sides on this, like, oh,

605
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:06.759
<v Speaker 1>the team was flat, Like okay, maybe Bob, and then

606
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.319
<v Speaker 1>they'll come out and really playing, like hey see, Bob

607
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>really got him going and all this kind of stuff.

608
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>And I was talking because Evan was out. But one

609
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Ottawa games earlier, I think it was the

610
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>last time they won a game was when that Evan

611
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>was out. I think he was saying, but you know,

612
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a lot of talented people there, and

613
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of you know, smart people putting together

614
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the team, and you know in terms of player you know,

615
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.160
<v Speaker 1>management and all that stuff. I just I'm just I

616
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>can never get a good sense of like how do

617
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 1>we feel about this and the just kind of Bob

618
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:35.200
<v Speaker 1>dies and everything and kind of getting the team ready

619
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.039
<v Speaker 1>to go. It's interesting you talking about the Jew Brown

620
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 1>and kind of the run game and all of that,

621
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>because it reminded me obviously yesterday. You know, Jay Daniels

622
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>going down injured in the first quarter for the Washington Commanders.

623
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>It feels like he's gonna be okay. But even with

624
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Marioda and there and Mario Thea hadn't looked good in

625
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 1>the other little bit we had seen them this season.

626
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 1>But having a run game kind of knowing that we're

627
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>able to just kind of and obviously Carolina is a

628
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 1>horrendous team, and so like, okay, let's say with the

629
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>greatest salt, but you know, having we really have three

630
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 1>solid running backs at this point that we can send

631
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>out there just alleviates all that where it wasn't like

632
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Sam hall Lasher with the Commanders, like I have to

633
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 1>throw fifty times a game to be able to be

634
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>successful here and you're looking, you know, and obviously they're

635
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>coming from behind and all that, but you know, forty

636
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 1>three attempts here from Drew Brown, I probably not setting

637
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:21.519
<v Speaker 1>up for success that way at all. Where you know,

638
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Toronto always seems to have a little bit more of

639
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a well rounded I guess team effort,

640
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense, both the run game had passed

641
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and then obviously the defense taking care of stuff as well.

642
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 1>But interesting because yeah, Drew Brown started really hot, so

643
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you think you think he's cooled off or do you

644
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 1>think the team's kind of let him down?

645
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I maybe a combination of both. I mean, he's been

646
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 2>really banked up. I don't think his offensive line has

647
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>really done him much favors. You know, the running games

648
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of dropped off. I mean, the good the good

649
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>news for Ottawa is, look, they have Devonte Williams who

650
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>was injured before the season. He's been out the whole year,

651
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>so when he comes back next year, they'll have one

652
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>of the top running backs in this league.

653
00:27:57.960 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>So that's at least the good news.

654
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>But for the time being, I mean, poor Drew Brown's

655
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to carry this team on his back. And

656
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, at the beginning of the season, he wasn't

657
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>putting up spectacular SATs, but he was doing.

658
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 3>What he needed to do to win games.

659
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 2>But now it's gotten to the point where he's got

660
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>to do everything for this team, and I just don't

661
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 2>think he's at the point of his development where he's

662
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.119
<v Speaker 2>able to do that. And I don't think he should

663
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>be asked to do that. I you know, it's his

664
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:26.079
<v Speaker 2>first full season. He's been the backup at Winnipeg for

665
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>the last two to three seasons, so you need to

666
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>give him time. I think he's got audible in the

667
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>right direction. I think he is a franchise quarterback. I

668
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>do think he is the future for this team. But

669
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, hopefully, you know, with Williams coming back next year,

670
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 2>that maybe it will get the you know, with a

671
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>decent running game of maybe some help on the offensive

672
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 2>line and the defense getting healthier.

673
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that will help Outawa out.

674
00:28:46.559 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, right now, for this season, I think

675
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't really think there's much hope for this team

676
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 2>to really bounce back and be legitimate contenders for a

677
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Great Cup.

678
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 1>It's just a test. You know, we really went all

679
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 1>in on the Massoli thing the last couple of years,

680
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and it really feels like this Drew Brown, right, he

681
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 1>had the big game when Kolaro's went down, or a

682
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>couple like a couple of decent games. I remember, you

683
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>had the one really breakout game last year, and so like,

684
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you sign them off of that and then

685
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you see a full season's worth and then I don't know,

686
00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know what Ottawa does here in that

687
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 1>because it just feels like they've been searching for that

688
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years. We talked to Hamilton and obviously,

689
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, do they double down on bow again. It's

690
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:30.599
<v Speaker 1>not like there's either a wealth of options are kind

691
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 1>of floating around Vernon or we'll talk through that, you know, Nathan,

692
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 1>some of them wind up somewhere. But I don't know,

693
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it just feels like Ottawa every year is like, well,

694
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the quarterback is in the league, we're not

695
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 1>going to really compete. And they've obviously had the injuries

696
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and everything else. It's just been really unfortunate for them.

697
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>It feels like they've really tried the last three years

698
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and surely just kind of not worked out their way. Yeah.

699
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean the problem with the Vasoli is he's getting

700
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>a little bit older, and while I think there were

701
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 2>moments where he came in in the last month where

702
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.480
<v Speaker 2>he did provide some kind of sport for them when

703
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 2>Drew Brown wasn't able to do it, MOSOLEI turns them

704
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 2>all over too much. I mean, Drew Brown protect the

705
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>ball better than he does, so I don't you know,

706
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Massoli I think is a really good back of him.

707
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I think they're solid at quarterback. Like I think you

708
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>give you got to give Drew Brown a little bit

709
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>of time.

710
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 3>He's already made.

711
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He's already made major strikes with his ottawall team compared

712
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>to what they've done over the last three to four

713
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:23.079
<v Speaker 2>five seasons, when this team was averaging you know what,

714
00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>three to four wins per season, Like, this team is

715
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>actually in the playoffs. So the first time since I

716
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 2>think it was twenty eighteen was the last time they

717
00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 2>were in it. So he's already made significant strides with

718
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>this franchise. He just needs more time to develop. So

719
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 2>I think they have their quarterback of the future. It's just,

720
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, get the running game going, maybe you know,

721
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 2>fix some pieces on the offensive line, you know, get

722
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.119
<v Speaker 2>your defense healthier, maybe add a piece or two more

723
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like Ottawa is just I think there are a few

724
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>players away from being.

725
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 3>A really competitive, great Cup contending team, Darren.

726
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I see your comment here talking Calgary talking Nathan Argan.

727
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Calgary will get to that in a second. Yeah, it's

728
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>just like I was just looking at you know, Mizolei's

729
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>thirty two years younger than I am. Trevor Harris is

730
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight. I think it's you know, a week younger older.

731
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the math here. We are we are

732
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>old people. I mean, I am at the point where

733
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I have to put like this, like lotion stuff on

734
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>my ankles because they get inflamed when I like, I

735
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 1>we are old people. I'm not a professionally athlete trained

736
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>in that way and obviously living in a different health

737
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 1>regimen and like all of those things. But I cannot

738
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine any of this. And you see, and you know,

739
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 1>like the trade fourth thing, and okay, we bring back

740
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>McLoud and maybe we should talk Edmonton here too at

741
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 1>some point before we get off, but like, let's you

742
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 1>need to start. Yeah, okay, maybe Drew Brown sucks for

743
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a year and then we get around him and as

744
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>opposed to just these retreads coming back of you know,

745
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.519
<v Speaker 1>the Mclouds and the bow and the who is the

746
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>other one is Trevor Harris, Like you got to bring

747
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:51.920
<v Speaker 1>in kind of a fresh crop here. These guys are

748
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 1>getting old and it just feels like, okay, and now

749
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:56.119
<v Speaker 1>we're going to trade and we're like, oh, this big name,

750
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, even Vernon, how old's Vernon thirty five? How

751
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 1>old's Vernon Adams?

752
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:02.519
<v Speaker 3>He's in his thirties. I know that for sure.

753
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Brendon Adams was born in nineteen ninety three, So what

754
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is that thirty one? Okay, so he's thirty one. He's

755
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit longer on there. But like you know,

756
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>it's not like they're all just the spring chickens running around.

757
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's like lame like example there. But anyway,

758
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like you kind of need to figure

759
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.359
<v Speaker 1>that out. And we've talked to a quarterback thing and

760
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff, But start bringing in some

761
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>more of these this youth here and get these guys

762
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 1>figured out quick. Making it be you know, five years

763
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to be able to be a quarterback.

764
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean miss always had what five million aco

765
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>injuries in his career. I mean, I love the guy

766
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think he can, you know, can still be competitive,

767
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>but like you said, he's like thirty six, I think

768
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 2>he needs to go. Trevor Harris has played well though,

769
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I'll give him his credit like that. That dude

770
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>is still playing well. He may have a year or

771
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>two more in him. You know, bo is up there

772
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in age, but he still probably has a year or

773
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>two and in him. Bernard Adams probably has, you know,

774
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>just compared to those guys, he probably has five or

775
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>six years in this league.

776
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 3>You know. Cody Fujarro is not that young either.

777
00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I think he's in his early thirties like these are,

778
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>but I mean still competing on a high, you know,

779
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 2>high level, but they the league still needs to find

780
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>younger talent, you know, like a trade for it, like

781
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>a Drew Brown who were in their twenties, then they

782
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>can develop into superstars for this league because they just

783
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have that right now.

784
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk through a little bit here of Yeah,

785
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little Winnipeg and Edmonton just because they

786
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 1>were on the bias this week, or it's so weird

787
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>with this, like because who else was on the by Hamilton, Montreal.

788
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 1>So we had Edmonton, Winnipeg, sask Okay, so let's talk.

789
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 1>We've done Sask all that stuff. Edmonton, all right, So

790
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 1>trey Ford's playing next week. I'm looking here. They're playing Toronto.

791
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Not not a lot to play for for Edmonton. But

792
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 1>what do you think of the situation they have a

793
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>right they're starting Tray, We got Ada McCleod. Was that

794
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just kind of overall thoughts kind of put into bed

795
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>this season for Edmonton because they're pretty much out of it.

796
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the last I heard, they were trying

797
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>to come up with some kind of negotiation with Tray

798
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>for it to put them in to have a you know,

799
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>extend him or give him a longer contract.

800
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>So we'll see what happens with it.

801
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, for the love of God, please give

802
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Trey for a chance, Like, can we give him a

803
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>full season to start, because at this point people are gonna,

804
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's gonna have a slow start next year.

805
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be like, oh, what's wrong with this guy's back?

806
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Well you were, I don't know. He's been the maid

807
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 2>of honor for the last for two three years and

808
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>you haven't given him the chance to really bloom in

809
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 2>this offense. And we all know what the potentially is.

810
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll say this season, I think the one

811
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>thing he's done really well that maybe he hasn't done

812
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of years is his accuracy. I mean,

813
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>this guy's completing over seventy one percent of his pass

814
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the most accurate quarterbacks in this league.

815
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I think he's done a lot more. He's done a

816
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 2>lot better in the pocket than what he has in

817
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>the past. I think he's really showing that he could

818
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 2>be an Italy passer. Yes, he has his moments where

819
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 2>he's turning the ball over, but trey Ford is really

820
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>showing that he can be a passer and you know,

821
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>once he gets held. I know, like this year has

822
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 2>been kind of weird with his rib injury and they

823
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 2>probably haven't had more that they haven't had as many

824
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 2>quarterback designed runs as they probably want with him. But

825
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.679
<v Speaker 2>when he's one hundred percent healthy next year, like he's

826
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a weapon. And he's proven that he can

827
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>be a pocket quarterback in this league. So I think

828
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Edmonton's really got something in trade board, you know, mccle

829
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Bethel Thompson, He's had like these weird moments, like one

830
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>game he's like four hundred yards and five touchdowns. Another

831
00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 2>game he's throwing one touchdown in two picks. Like he's

832
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>too inconsistent, and even he's getting up there in age,

833
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. And plus he's been fined

834
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.519
<v Speaker 2>like five hundred times for complaining about the schedule and stuff.

835
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't even want to come back to the

836
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>CFL because sometimes it just feels like with all the

837
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>complaining he's doing, like I don't even know if he

838
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to come back. I don't know if any team's

839
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.199
<v Speaker 2>gonna want him back, because I don't know if he

840
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>can compete for a starting job really anywhere else, so

841
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't suspect them. Mcleile Bethel Thompson will be back

842
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>next year. If he is, he's gonna have to probably

843
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, pack it in as a backup. But this

844
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>is trade Board's team. I think they need to build

845
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 2>around him. I think they have some nice pieces defensive,

846
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>like the running game. They have an elite backfield with

847
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Justin Rankin to to Kevin Brown to you know, Javon Leak, Like,

848
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>they have so much talent on that backfield, like.

849
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.039
<v Speaker 3>They're they're they're they're the best rushing attack in the league.

850
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.639
<v Speaker 2>So they have good running backs, they have a good

851
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>receiving corps, solid offensive line. Defense needs a lot of

852
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>work though, I mean, just one of the worst defenses

853
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 2>in the league. So if they can fix their defense

854
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and get that going, I think Edmonton's.

855
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Got good potential to be competitive next year.

856
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 1>This is a mess, right, and this is to me,

857
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest kind of situation besides the BC and

858
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of what they're going to do there for the

859
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Darren has I just got Corp's interaction on my shoulders. Yeah,

860
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 1>we're all old everybody's old. We're all, we're all, we're

861
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 1>they're getting old. Yes, no, I averrigiate that, like because

862
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal, and I was looking at this. You know,

863
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>so you're Edmonton. You pay half a million dollars for

864
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>McCloud to come in to win six games, right I

865
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I I feel like you could have won six games,

866
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>which ray Ford and obviously the injuries kind of all

867
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, the McCloud, the anti CFL and getting fined

868
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. Like, brother, you can pay half

869
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars to come up and play football, like

870
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on, Like you know the deal

871
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>with all that. This is why I can't stand like

872
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 1>any of this, and I don't I don't always buy

873
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>like Aaron Rodgers last night after the game, like well

874
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we just our energy was low. We didn't Like, I

875
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>don't that Aaron's just kind of talking nonsense. You're kind

876
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>of to throw the blame. But you hear that a lot,

877
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>like the cracking last season, like we had a hard

878
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.599
<v Speaker 1>time getting motivated. Like you're getting paid like millions of dollars,

879
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Like you are a professional, Like you need to show up,

880
00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like you need to do your work. I have a

881
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 1>really hard time with that. The McCloud, I love you. You've

882
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 1>been on the show. Everyone plays short weeks, brother, everyone

883
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>played short weeks. Look in the NFL, like look at

884
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the USFL. It could have been a lot. Like I

885
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine his living standards and playing standards are any

886
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>worse than it was in the USFL with the Breakers,

887
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I just, you know, let's be realistic here, but

888
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you've you've so alienated tray Ford. And it's it's similar

889
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 1>but different, right with Vernon and how BC's handled it.

890
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But you have a team that's really poorly handled this

891
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.639
<v Speaker 1>person the last couple of years. And people like players

892
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 1>are people, they're not just ponds. You can you know,

893
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 1>my fantasy team and we're gonna start this person this

894
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>week and then we're gonna put this one and we're like,

895
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>if I'm Trey Ford, I would want nothing to do

896
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.159
<v Speaker 1>with Edmonton. I would want to know there's a big

897
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 1>market out there. You guys haven't put any you know,

898
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>energy behind me. I have no faith even if I

899
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 1>resign here, you're not going to try to go out

900
00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and do Like I just couldn't imagine having this person

901
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>that Chris Jones took you know it, moved up in

902
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 1>the draft to take relegated and relegated and relegated him,

903
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>and then now, oh, let's now we're really ready to

904
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 1>sign you. I just I would have no faith in that.

905
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:42.519
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't believe in that. I would be very put

906
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>off by how Edmonton's handled it.

907
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Well it this has to come from Larry Thompson, the

908
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:48.599
<v Speaker 2>new owner. He needs to sit down tray for it.

909
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Be like, look, Chris Jones is gone, that's the old regime.

910
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm a longtime fan, I was a season ticket holder.

911
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I understand what this team needs. Put your trust in me.

912
00:38:58.679 --> 00:38:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give you.

913
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 3>The money you need.

914
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:02.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get you to support you need. We're gonna

915
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 2>get a new coaching staff in here. We're gonna get

916
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you some weapons. We're gonna help you out defensively. Like that,

917
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>He needs to sell him on the image that you're

918
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the franchise quarterback. I believe in you. I've seen you play.

919
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the hell that other regime was

920
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>doing for you. They ruined you, But I'm gonna make

921
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:20.920
<v Speaker 2>you the best quarterback in this league. So I think

922
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the biggest selling point is you use your new

923
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>owner to be able to sell the fact that hey,

924
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.239
<v Speaker 2>we got a new ownership, this is a new team,

925
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 2>this is a new day. We're going to build the

926
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>team around you.

927
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 3>You're my guy.

928
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think that's a really good Yeah, you

929
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>need to because it's I just I don't know. I

930
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't imagine. I just I always flashed back to

931
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it last year preseason, like Trey Foard on the show,

932
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>He's on his phone, is it common Wealth the Sunshine

933
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>in He's after whatever preseason practice or game. He's like,

934
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm having the best time. I'm like, this is gonna

935
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 1>be awesome. And then he's not the starter, He's not.

936
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I just I'll never understand it. I love Chris Jones.

937
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I love a lot of people. With all of this

938
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff speaking of people I love and teams and everything

939
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I love. Like, So this BC a Lions thing. We'll

940
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 1>talk through all this now and obviously Routy Montreal and

941
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.199
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. I'll talk through just kind of my

942
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>experiences going up, just to give a little color for

943
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>the weekend. But what is your thoughts on just the

944
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 1>BC Allions as a whole. Like I said, off the top.

945
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 1>If I've been podcasting the last month, I might not

946
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 1>have been invited to a BC Lions a game just

947
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.519
<v Speaker 1>because of everything. Like, so, what are your thoughts, because

948
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure you have a platform as well.

949
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So one, I mean.

950
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>This is these are Americans talking about a Canadian quarterback.

951
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 2>So I want everyone to just relax. This is not

952
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>completely a negative thing. But I mean, first of all,

953
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 2>offensive line and the defense for BC is the biggest

954
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 2>problem with this team. I mean it doesn't start with

955
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback, It starts with those The offensive line has

956
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 2>been horrible all season, really.

957
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:52.639
<v Speaker 3>Inconsistent in past protection.

958
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 2>There are some games where they're good, there's some games

959
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of there where the quarterbacks are getting rocked. So I

960
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>want to make some acknowledge from that defense has allowed

961
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 2>big plays season.

962
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 3>This has not been a good secondary. This defense needs

963
00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 3>a lot of help, especially on the back end.

964
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>With that being said, I think Nathan Warrick has the

965
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 2>potential to be a starting quarterback in this league, but

966
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.840
<v Speaker 2>this year it just has worked out like he just

967
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have the confidence there. And then I think the

968
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>problem is and Rick Campbell, I think deserves a lot

969
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 2>of responsibility for this he threw him in way too quick,

970
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Like you don't sign somebody you know who has been

971
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 2>playing in the NFL for the last year plus, who's

972
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>bounced around between four teams, bounced around four different offensive systems.

973
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was literally on two teams during the

974
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>off season, uh, in the NFL and then just tell him, Hey,

975
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 2>go out, go out and play. Let's see how you do. Like,

976
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Nathan Warck was set up for failure from the beginning.

977
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.280
<v Speaker 2>He was given this big contract and the biggest one

978
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 2>in league history. You're going to be the face of

979
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>this league, you know, a Canadian quarterback. It's all going

980
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 2>to be great. So I actually feel for Nathan Wock

981
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>because I'm sure he doesn't want this kind of attention.

982
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>He just wants to go out and play, and he

983
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>was just set up for failure.

984
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>You know.

985
00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 2>But with that being said, you know he's had time

986
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to to, you know, kind of go through the issues

987
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>and try to fix it. I mean, read over the

988
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 2>last four games that he has started. You know how

989
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.599
<v Speaker 2>many touchdown passes he's thrown?

990
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

991
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, zero. He hasn't thrown a touchdown pass in

992
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>the last four starts, Like even a you know, a

993
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 3>sub par CFL quarterback would be able to throw at

994
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 3>least one touchdown during that time. So I hate to

995
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 3>be so negative about it, but that's a big problem

996
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 3>when you have a quarterback who can't even throw touchdowns,

997
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 3>and that's that's been another problem with BEC. They can't

998
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 3>score touchdowns in the red zone. They just don't take

999
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.400
<v Speaker 3>advantage of those situations. That's a major major issue, and

1000
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Nathan Wark has to take some of the point for that.

1001
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 3>I would put a little more on Rick Campbell. I

1002
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 3>don't think he's really set his quarterback up for success.

1003
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 2>But you know, Nathan Work has not been great, so

1004
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think the Allions made the right decision

1005
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 2>going with Verta Adams. It was very clear on Saturday that,

1006
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can make your argument Montreal probably didn't,

1007
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't play their start as a whole game.

1008
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 2>They probably weren't as motivated to win that game. But

1009
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Verdon Adams is clearly the better guy for this offense,

1010
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>at least for this year. Let Nathan Work sit behind him,

1011
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.119
<v Speaker 2>let him learn the offense, let him, you know, take

1012
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:07.760
<v Speaker 2>the off season to work with him, get his confidence back,

1013
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>work on some of the mechanic issues that he's had

1014
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and then put him back in as the start of

1015
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.679
<v Speaker 2>next year in twenty twenty five. But I just think

1016
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the way they handled him and then putting Matthew and

1017
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, signing Matthew Bets and putting him in, like

1018
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I think, BC just mishandled the middle of this season,

1019
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 2>and they panic because Vernon Adams got hurt. They should

1020
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:29.199
<v Speaker 2>have What they should have done was start Chase Bryce

1021
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 2>and give him an opportunity, because it seems like every

1022
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 2>time they put in Bryce. I mean, he's completing almost

1023
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent of his passes and I think he's

1024
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>throwing a touchdown or two this year. He's actually looked

1025
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. I know they were in garbage time, but

1026
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.599
<v Speaker 2>he's actually looked pretty good compared to you know, what

1027
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.880
<v Speaker 2>they have done. So they probably should have started him

1028
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and see if they had, you know, if they have

1029
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>a backup in him, and then put Vernon Adams back in.

1030
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 2>But they jumped the gun on Nathan Work and it

1031
00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>just hasn't worked out. So I think it's more of

1032
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 2>a you know, a leadership with coaching and management problem

1033
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 2>with Bees versus what's going on with the players. Yes,

1034
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>there's there's more talent, and there's more talent needs to

1035
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>be added in, especially on the defensive side and the

1036
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>offensive line. But Nathan working with out set up for success.

1037
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>These players that have been set up for success, and

1038
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 2>they have squandered a perfect opportunity to host a you know,

1039
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to be the host team for a great Cup.

1040
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Real quick on the defense, and I'll talk to Nathan

1041
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 1>and stuff here. I don't like the regression of this

1042
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:29.159
<v Speaker 1>defense needs to be studied because I don't know how

1043
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you you were the Donut Boys? Was that early last year,

1044
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it wasn't even that long ago where the Donut

1045
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Boys and we're shutting down, they were doing all this

1046
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and Ryan Phillips and they're like, shoot, man, Ryan's gonna

1047
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>be coaching. You're gonna be leaving BC. He had already

1048
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.400
<v Speaker 1>got the promotion there and moved up and like, you know,

1049
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I know Ryan, like I shot one years ago. Like

1050
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>this is like just the regression of that. I don't

1051
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 1>understand where I again, I was watching first take, which

1052
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 1>is you know, a bastiat of knowledge about you know,

1053
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>football and everything coming out of the Sunday night game.

1054
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 1>But you know they were talking out the Jets and like,

1055
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 1>you can't expect the same defense every year, right, the

1056
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Jets defense was really good last year. You can't expect

1057
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the exact same sort of shut down whatever, but you

1058
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 1>don't just fall apart. Like I just don't understand how

1059
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 1>BC is just totally falling apart and they have no

1060
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you know some of the games that we were watching

1061
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>earlier this season, like receivers are wide open, they can't tackle,

1062
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 1>they can't do all that. I like that far Han

1063
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.079
<v Speaker 1>has gotten a lot more critical of the team. I

1064
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.199
<v Speaker 1>like that he's gotten a little bit more critical of,

1065
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, coaching and management. I remember I was critical

1066
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 1>of coaching during the year and got of got some

1067
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>feedback like get you know, what are you doing? We

1068
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 1>need to be like this is this is the thing here.

1069
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.559
<v Speaker 1>And so talking to Nathan and this kind of made

1070
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 1>me laugh because Darren, are there the quarterbacks in the

1071
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 1>CFLs egotisticos Aaron Rodgers. When Nathan kind of did that

1072
00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>halftime stuff, it was a little that way to me.

1073
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>It came across a little that way where you no

1074
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:54.480
<v Speaker 1>show far haunt and all that. This entire Nathan work

1075
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 1>scenario is so weird because a number one, as Ryan Clark,

1076
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I think, is the one that says it, like you

1077
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and football, you're paid the kings ransom to play a

1078
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.840
<v Speaker 1>child's game, right, so like immediately you are like it,

1079
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like all the criticism everything, and the people online and

1080
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the hard questions and like when Aaron Rodgers gets mad

1081
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 1>at people like, no, you're paying a ton of money

1082
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to do your work, like they're paid, Like this is

1083
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone's this is how this works, and I'm sorry that

1084
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you don't like to answer hard questions or whatever, but

1085
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:27.119
<v Speaker 1>like that's how all that goes. But then with this

1086
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Nathan stuff, the whole country of Canada and a lot

1087
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.599
<v Speaker 1>of the media and a lot of the media members

1088
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 1>babied him the whole way up because I think that

1089
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they said, you know, this is our star. We followed

1090
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 1>him all the way through you know, high school, going

1091
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 1>in and playing college in the States, and he's winning

1092
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the Cornish Award and all these things

1093
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.400
<v Speaker 1>from Ja mullen and we're bringing him up and we're

1094
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>bringing him up and it's just weird coddling that you

1095
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have. And like even far Han after that game

1096
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>when he's like no show and far Haunt, oh, I know, Nathan.

1097
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's not the point, Like it's not the

1098
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 1>point that you've known him and covered him and driven

1099
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 1>down to the States and gone to practices with him

1100
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and went to Jacksonville and tried, like that's not you

1101
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.519
<v Speaker 1>need to separate all that from that. But you know,

1102
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I know BC was ready to make Nathan the highest

1103
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 1>paid person when he decided to go to the NFL

1104
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>two years ago. His choice, right, Obviously we've chronicled all

1105
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that and the Patriots and all these things and everything

1106
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 1>that working out Jaguar. But then this whole like the

1107
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>second he decides to come back that you basically the

1108
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>BC allions fell over themselves to like run and just

1109
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 1>throw that. You know, this truckload of money at him

1110
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.679
<v Speaker 1>looks really bad, right, sets it up that way, And

1111
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I do know, and I think it was far Han

1112
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 1>said in his the postgame was he called that the

1113
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:43.920
<v Speaker 1>far Hank casts, which I go, hey, you know, the

1114
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Mark cast is trademark. But Vernon felt really hurt because

1115
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he as a starting quarterback. You should never lose your

1116
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 1>job because of injury, right, Vernon was playing good, got hurt,

1117
00:47:56.960 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>lost his job, was never given the opportunity to compete,

1118
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and that's just not the way to set it up.

1119
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Vernon put in a ton of time in the off season.

1120
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 1>They you know, they did all the arrow up stuff,

1121
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's flying people down to Tacoma and they're doing

1122
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>all this and they're like building all this camaraderie. You

1123
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 1>carry that into the season, and then when he gets

1124
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>hurt and you bring in Nathan, it could have been anyone.

1125
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:18.559
<v Speaker 1>It's not a Nathan specific. You could have brought in

1126
00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone if Vernon would he got his job back, you know,

1127
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>not because of poor player or anything else. It just

1128
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 1>sets it up for disaster. And I just think that

1129
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the BC Allions had no was it. Seinfeld always tucks

1130
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>like you got to save face, you can't give too

1131
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>much fail like totally gave away whatever. Now this team's

1132
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>atrocious right now. I know they beat Montreal in the game.

1133
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.199
<v Speaker 1>They didn't mean anything. They looked good. And I want

1134
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to get your thoughts on that if it was just

1135
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.639
<v Speaker 1>like because Montreal whatever. But like you're barely in this

1136
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 1>right now and you're not even paying Nathan eight hundred

1137
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars yet, Like, what the heck are you going

1138
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 1>to do the next two years? Like I don't know.

1139
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if Vernon comes in and we were arguing

1140
00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 1>with people at the BC Lions game that like, well,

1141
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>obviously you know this is Nathan's team, but like if

1142
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Vernon wins two playoff games and maybe takes him to

1143
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>the Great Cup, are you going to cut Vernon? Are

1144
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you really going to trade him? Like this is this

1145
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 1>to me is until the nightmare? Right now?

1146
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1147
00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Two things that so one, the media has done such

1148
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 2>a horre like you said, a horrendous job of covering

1149
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Nathan Worrick and babying him. They treated this guy like

1150
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>he could walk on water and he could turn water

1151
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 2>into the wine. But I mean, my my issue is,

1152
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like there was more outrage with

1153
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Nathan Borock about if you talk negatively on him then

1154
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>like trying to defend another Canadian quarterback in Trey Ford

1155
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>who has actually proven.

1156
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 3>That he has played well in the CFL.

1157
00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Nathan Worke had a good season two years ago,

1158
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>but he got injured that season and he's still through

1159
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 2>twelve interceptions in the ten games that he played, so

1160
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:51.079
<v Speaker 2>like he is like a turnover machine, let's be honest

1161
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.920
<v Speaker 2>about it. Like Nathan Work's a good quarterback, but he's

1162
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the type of guy that's going to turn the ball

1163
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.440
<v Speaker 2>over alive. When you have trey Ford, who's the polar opposite.

1164
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>He protects the ball well, he's accurate with the ball

1165
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:03.760
<v Speaker 2>like where I know there was some outrage which tray

1166
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Ford was kind of passed up over mccob buffle Thompson,

1167
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like there was ten times more outrage

1168
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.280
<v Speaker 2>with Nathan Rourke versus trade Ford, Like what are we

1169
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.239
<v Speaker 2>doing here? Like we we should be defending trey Ford

1170
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>by the gates more than we should Nathan wore. And

1171
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 2>then also my concern is the off season, it is

1172
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>BC gonna have any money to spend to try to

1173
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 2>fix the issues. They have no because they're gonna be

1174
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>under the salary cap because they spend so much money

1175
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 2>on Matthew Betts, they spend so much money on Nathan

1176
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.719
<v Speaker 2>war and they have to fix their secondary and they're

1177
00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:36.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna have nothing to work with. In fact, they're probably

1178
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to let good players go. You know what's

1179
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen over the receiving corps? Are they gonna lose

1180
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>some of those top guys. I mean, they have Alexander

1181
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Hollins they have Justin McGinnis, they have you know, Kea like,

1182
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 2>they have the best receiving corep in the league. And

1183
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.320
<v Speaker 2>they'rerobably gonna have to let some of those guys walk

1184
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in free agency. They're not gonna be able to pay them.

1185
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:55.159
<v Speaker 2>They have to fix that offensive line, they have to

1186
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 2>fix that defense, and they're gonna have zero money to

1187
00:50:58.119 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>do it.

1188
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:00.719
<v Speaker 3>So they just threw all this money.

1189
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.639
<v Speaker 2>They try to win the Great Cup to go to

1190
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 2>win nine games this season and probably doesn't have a

1191
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 2>great chance of you know, making a our eight games.

1192
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 2>They want a game, but they don't have a great

1193
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 2>chance of winning the Great Cup. So I threw all

1194
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 2>this money away for nothing. So they've they've really set

1195
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>themselves back over you know, probably for the next two

1196
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to three years because they want to spend all this

1197
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.800
<v Speaker 2>money on a quarterback who's throwing four touchdowns at nine

1198
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>interceptions in eight starts, and a defensive end who's had

1199
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:28.840
<v Speaker 2>one stack in four to five games.

1200
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 3>And I hate being critical.

1201
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I know they're just getting back into the flow of

1202
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>it and maybe they'll be better next year.

1203
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.039
<v Speaker 3>But BC has not set up for success over the

1204
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 3>next year or two.

1205
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I understand what Farahan was saying, when you know, when

1206
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:46.639
<v Speaker 1>naither Work calls you, you know you need to answer

1207
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>that call and you need to right, like because he

1208
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the argument is like any team would have done this right,

1209
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>any team with it brought in. But I don't know

1210
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>when you have Vernon, that's we just you know, it's

1211
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty one has been you know, playing very well. It's

1212
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 1>two seasons season that no, two seasons now plus you

1213
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and the wa where where Nathan was hurt the season before,

1214
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 1>Like two seasons of this coming in has built the

1215
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 1>rapport with the guys. They mismanaged their backup quarterback situation

1216
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.280
<v Speaker 1>from the get go. You know, they should have kept

1217
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the short yardage guy in there, and then we have

1218
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 1>dal Gala and then we get rid of him and

1219
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.119
<v Speaker 1>we don't like that was total waste of even having

1220
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 1>that And like, I don't know, do you just stamp

1221
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 1>pat and go Nathan will talk after the season, you know,

1222
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.800
<v Speaker 1>get your head straight. I don't know, does another team

1223
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:33.920
<v Speaker 1>go out and throw eight hundred thousand at him? Like

1224
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I feel like I understand the

1225
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 1>fear of like when that phone call comes, you need

1226
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to say yes because that might never come again. But totally,

1227
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 1>like it didn't solve the team when he came in,

1228
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and it really made it worse because, like you said,

1229
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any money now to do anything else,

1230
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.599
<v Speaker 1>So it really took a bad situation and made it

1231
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:52.920
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible. Kind of salary cap wise.

1232
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think.

1233
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, BC has no choice. They made their bed.

1234
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:58.920
<v Speaker 2>They need to lie in it with thinks the work.

1235
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 2>He needs to be a starter or the next two years.

1236
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Like they're paying this guy the highest salary in league history.

1237
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Like he has to play. He has to be their story.

1238
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>They have to see what they have in him. But

1239
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>for this season they can at least control that, and

1240
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>they need to put Vernon Adams in. He gives them

1241
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the best shot to win, even though, like you know,

1242
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 2>the likelihood of them winning the Great Cup doesn't seem

1243
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 2>very likely anymore. Vernon Adam gives him the best shot

1244
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 2>to win this season. And then you know, the off season,

1245
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>you move on from Vernon Adams, you focus on the

1246
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.400
<v Speaker 2>development of Nathan Burke, fix the issues as because look,

1247
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, I know we're being

1248
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 2>super negative, but Nathan work has all the potential to

1249
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>be a great franchise quarterback.

1250
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:36.360
<v Speaker 3>In this league.

1251
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 2>He's already proven that he can play well in this league.

1252
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:42.000
<v Speaker 2>He just needs to clean up the turnovers. He needs

1253
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 2>to you know, work on his accuracy. He needs to

1254
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 2>develop you know, chemistry with these receivers, and you know,

1255
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 2>he needs some support around him. But again, what we

1256
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:53.159
<v Speaker 2>talked about, that's gonna be a problem. But Nathan work

1257
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:54.760
<v Speaker 2>is gonna have to understand he's gonna have to carry

1258
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the team on his back, and he has the capability

1259
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 2>to do it, but he needs some development in the

1260
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.920
<v Speaker 2>off season. And honestly, he just he's get his confidence

1261
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 2>back up.

1262
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, and I know this is how

1263
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>professional sports works, but it's just hard when you pay

1264
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 1>players before they actually like win, right. It's like we've

1265
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>seen this now with Joe Burrow and you're you know,

1266
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts and all this, like you know, Okay, we

1267
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>got to the super Bowl. Okay, we're gonna pay him.

1268
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're paying Nathan off of eight games that

1269
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 1>he played two years ago, where he had even a

1270
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>better receiving corps now, which is the best receiving core

1271
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.920
<v Speaker 1>in the league. And so, like, I guess what I

1272
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 1>was trying to explain to Dorothy, Like we don't even know,

1273
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't even know where those eight games are mirage?

1274
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Is that the truth? Is it somewhere in between. Like

1275
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's an impossible situation. I understand him wanting

1276
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 1>to go to the NFL. I would have stayed in BC.

1277
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.519
<v Speaker 1>I would have won a Great Cup and then taken

1278
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that down. I don't know if that gets you any

1279
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>more looks or whatever, but the way that this was handled,

1280
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I understand your young man wanting to explore your opportunities,

1281
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'll blame him for that, but like this has

1282
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>been handled horribly from both sides. I mean, it really

1283
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>is a very poor marriage kind of sit suation.

1284
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, BC should have waited until if they were going

1285
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to sign them now, they should have kept them on

1286
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the bench, maybe maybe the whole season. Maybe maybe you

1287
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 2>just roll with Verdon Adams and just happened and just

1288
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 2>tell Adams, look, just be transparent. We're going to roll

1289
00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.400
<v Speaker 2>with Nathan work next year. So play this season, play well,

1290
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 2>work your ass off, and then you can go get

1291
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:21.840
<v Speaker 2>a bigger, nicer contract somewhere else.

1292
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, work, get prove it, Yeah, prove your worth

1293
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, like you said, just be like, be

1294
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 1>honest with all these players. No one's been honest with anyone.

1295
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's all the players want. I mean,

1296
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 2>as long as you're honest with them about what's going

1297
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 2>on in the future. Don't respect that more than just oh, hey,

1298
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:40.320
<v Speaker 2>we just signed a you know, new quarterback that's going

1299
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:42.639
<v Speaker 2>to replace you. Sorry, you know, sorry I didn't talk

1300
00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 2>to you about it. But just be honest with them.

1301
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Like Vernon Adams I think would have been better off

1302
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 2>with it. And you know he's gonna find a team

1303
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:51.280
<v Speaker 2>next year and he's gonna make that team better because

1304
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 2>you know he's I believe if you wouldn't have been injured,

1305
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:56.559
<v Speaker 2>easily would have been MP in this league.

1306
00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Last thing, and then I I want to recount just

1307
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>a couple things. We'll get out of here before at

1308
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the top of the hour. So okay, we move Vernon, right,

1309
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've seen Calgary. Okay, do you trade him

1310
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.440
<v Speaker 1>to the world? Like, what do you do with Vernon?

1311
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Because then you're in the same situation where if you

1312
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:14.880
<v Speaker 1>play if you trade Vernon and he plays Elite next year,

1313
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you're just just piss off of your b you know,

1314
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.679
<v Speaker 1>because you're like you can't have. So I mean, what

1315
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 1>do you do with Vernon? You diih him and then

1316
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.480
<v Speaker 1>dild I save that cap and just hope that you

1317
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:26.079
<v Speaker 1>know you have Nathan? Is that much better?

1318
00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 3>You have to get rid of him.

1319
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean again, you gave Nathan Rourke the biggest contract

1320
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.199
<v Speaker 2>in history. You've made your bed. You need to lie

1321
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 2>in it. You need to roll with him. It's like

1322
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Browns with Deshaun Watson. You gave the guy

1323
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.599
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and twenty three million dollars, fully guaranteed.

1324
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Guess what you may not.

1325
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, fans may not like that he's you know,

1326
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>starting quarterback, not anymore now he's injured. But you may

1327
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 2>not have liked that he was the starting quarterback. But

1328
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you gave him all that money. So the owner Junior

1329
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 2>has some is gonna be like, ah, yeah, you're playing

1330
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 2>him every game like I'm getting my money's worth with him.

1331
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 2>BC is the same situation. You gotta you gotta go

1332
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 2>with Nathan. So I think with you trade him away,

1333
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 2>you know you can get some good value out of him.

1334
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe you can probably get some good draft picks,

1335
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.280
<v Speaker 2>because honestly, at the end of the day, BC is

1336
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 2>only gonna be able to afford to pay players that's

1337
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:12.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the draft, so you get as much draft

1338
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 2>collateral as you can and try to build a younger

1339
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:18.159
<v Speaker 2>team because there's no way they're going to be able

1340
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>to afford anybody in free agency, so they're just going

1341
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>to have to try to find some good young talent

1342
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully build the team around, you know, getting some

1343
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 2>sleepers in the draft.

1344
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I developed. I've been trying to meet here, but

1345
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 1>developed coming back from Canada. Last couple of things here

1346
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this before we get out. I appreciate Anthony coming on.

1347
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I had a really good time going up. I always

1348
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:42.039
<v Speaker 1>appreciate going up TOBC hadn't been able to make it

1349
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>up this year and until this weekend. Had a really

1350
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 1>good time. We were kind of caught in that ask

1351
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 1>what do they call it, asmaspheric river whatever raid? Literally

1352
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the entire time, literally the entire time we were there,

1353
00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>pouring ray. But had a really good time. Like I said,

1354
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:01.119
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of CFL knowledge from the people, the patrons,

1355
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the bars we talked at. I

1356
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>thought it was funny at our hotel downstairs they had

1357
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 1>a bar they had of the TVs and they finally

1358
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:12.719
<v Speaker 1>got a TSN kind of doing some CFL recap on,

1359
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:16.920
<v Speaker 1>but they had my old station Fox thirteen Aaron talking

1360
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Seahawks and like doing a whole NFC West preview about

1361
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>with the forty nine ers on that stuff, like like

1362
00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 1>we're like twenty feet from BC place, Like the hotel

1363
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 1>we stay at it is literally across the street from

1364
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 1>BC Place, Like it's they're all kind of the same price,

1365
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>but it works out. I'm like, you're literally across the street,

1366
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Like could you have a BC Lion's flag up in

1367
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Like they had Kansas City blow up doll and they

1368
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>had forty nine ers legs, had Aaron Rodgers jerseys. They

1369
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 1>have Lamar jacket, Like hey, like if I'm the BC team,

1370
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm up some freaking flegs in there. Game day

1371
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:50.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff was always great. A line getting in, which is

1372
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 1>always cool. I just kind of feel I'm like, you're

1373
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.039
<v Speaker 1>not just oh, we're just showing up. It's nice to

1374
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like but not nearly as well attended

1375
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 1>as the one we went to last year where it

1376
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was winn a peg on that Friday night kind of

1377
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:05.079
<v Speaker 1>for the control of first in the West. But my

1378
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:09.800
<v Speaker 1>last note was every single person watching the CFL game.

1379
00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 1>You either have I know absolutely nothing about the CFL,

1380
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.400
<v Speaker 1>like I've never I don't even know who's on the

1381
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.840
<v Speaker 1>team or what's going on, or like I've been a

1382
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.239
<v Speaker 1>fan for forty seven years and i know everything. Like

1383
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>either there's no in between, there's no like, oh yeah,

1384
00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 1>we come every couple of times. No, it's either I've

1385
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 1>never been before, or I come the pregame bar we

1386
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.599
<v Speaker 1>went to across the street the other way had a

1387
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.599
<v Speaker 1>lot of BC Lions fans, a lot of old, old

1388
00:59:34.639 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>people drinking wine and stuff like just speaks to kind

1389
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>of the age of the of the you know, the

1390
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Lions fan base. A lot of older white men like

1391
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 1>drinking wine at the bar. You'll normally get that, I'm

1392
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>sure before like Philly games. You know, let's have a

1393
00:59:46.519 --> 00:59:49.119
<v Speaker 1>big like we like Dorothy looked at the menu. She's like,

1394
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.039
<v Speaker 1>that's like one hundred and fifty dollars bubble wine. Like

1395
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 1>they're drinking. I'm like, hey, yeah, I guess if you're

1396
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're a PC. But it was really fun. Far

1397
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Han got into the BC Football Hall of Fame. That

1398
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was great. Congrat him. We saw, like I said, jimol

1399
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and all that, so really cool kind of catching up

1400
01:00:03.519 --> 01:00:07.840
<v Speaker 1>with everyone and just obviously appreciate BC's hospitalities. So it

1401
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:09.599
<v Speaker 1>was a good game. I mean, Dorothy had fun even

1402
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>though Montreal didn't have a lot to play for. She

1403
01:00:11.480 --> 01:00:13.400
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed seeing what was it, twenty seven to three, So

1404
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it was fun.

1405
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually curious did you get to talk to BC

1406
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:19.719
<v Speaker 2>line fans about how they feel about Nathan Worke, Like

1407
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:21.239
<v Speaker 2>are they are they bought into him?

1408
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Or are they bought into Vernon Adams.

1409
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.360
<v Speaker 1>So the gentleman in front of me that he is

1410
01:00:26.360 --> 01:00:28.199
<v Speaker 1>on the side of that, I know every single party

1411
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.679
<v Speaker 1>thing of every single person, because I was just kind

1412
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.679
<v Speaker 1>of explaining to Dorothy, like, hey, you know and like

1413
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Nathan and it's going to be really interesting because I

1414
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>understand that we've said like Nathan's the highest contract and

1415
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.480
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, like you know, Vernon wins two playoff games.

1416
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 1>He just has like this is Nathan's team, like he's

1417
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:47.280
<v Speaker 1>they playing him. I'm like, he's trying to tell me

1418
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 1>the contract stuff. I'm like, brother, like I know you

1419
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:51.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like I know this, I under I know

1420
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the situation with the team here, Like I'm not. I

1421
01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't say like I'm a CUFL part, but I was

1422
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh no, like yeah, no, I'm very aware

1423
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 1>of everything. And then he the little baby, and the

1424
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>baby turned around he had like a Nathan Roke temporary

1425
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.199
<v Speaker 1>tattoo on the space. So I'm like, well, there you go.

1426
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously like, but no, very pro Nathan. Everyone

1427
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.599
<v Speaker 1>we talked to very yeah, not even a lot of

1428
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like we like Vernon I posted I stand with Va,

1429
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:17.599
<v Speaker 1>but very pro Nathan. I think that that the run

1430
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.639
<v Speaker 1>two years ago really built up all that. And even

1431
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 1>like people at the bars, they didn't know really what

1432
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.159
<v Speaker 1>the team was doing right now, knew that Nathan was

1433
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 1>back and that there were some struggles, but that was

1434
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:30.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of the one Yes, so very pro Nathan, and

1435
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:33.320
<v Speaker 1>don't don't talk about my quarterback all right.

1436
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope Nathan knows how to play a cornerback

1437
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>because they'll definitely need him to do that as well.

1438
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nathan's about one season away from learning to speak

1439
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.199
<v Speaker 1>UFL e s buddy. So Anthony, anything from you, you got anything,

1440
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll get out of here. Anything coming up on the site.

1441
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Could probably be working on power rankings and uh, you know,

1442
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.800
<v Speaker 2>getting some MLP conversation going and uh, you know, just

1443
01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.239
<v Speaker 2>getting up to date on you know, the final week

1444
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 2>of the season. So I'm excited to see how the

1445
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:07.159
<v Speaker 2>season ends for the CFL and finally get the playoffs going.

1446
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this has been a long season that

1447
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot has happened. I feel like it's a totally

1448
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.119
<v Speaker 2>different league from when it was back in June versus

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<v Speaker 2>where we are now, So it should be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a photo finish for the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stay tuned. We'll either do a Monday recap, which

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<v Speaker 1>will mostly be a playoff preview, or maybe we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>something later in the week, but we'll do something next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of looking forward to the playoffs because Week twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one is always kind of at least there's four games.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year was like the other way and there's only three.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Like we gotta talk about these three games.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it's four games. Is don't mean anything, I

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<v Speaker 1>know if that makes it better worse. But we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>some seedings there. Like we said in the West, Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, Jason's doing well, and everyone else. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a long time off, so hopefully people you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we still exist. On here, so we're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>our thing and hopefully we can get all of our

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<v Speaker 1>credentials and everything for the Great Cup, so we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>everyone like it. Subscribe, but we'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 2>The Betwen, the