Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Everything's Political. I'm your host, Taya Shoemake.
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Speaker 1: into this interview with a special guest today. His name
Speaker 1: is Scott Sarah and among many wonderful things, he is
Speaker 1: also the host of the podcast Deprogramming with Grace's Dad.
Speaker 1: You can find that on whatever platform is your favorite.
Speaker 1: Deprogramming with Grace's Dad and named as because he realized
Speaker 1: he had been programmed to believe a litany of things
Speaker 1: that simply weren't true. And he is here to share
Speaker 1: with us his family's harrowing experience throughout a seven day
Speaker 1: hospitals that tragically ended in the death of his nineteen
Speaker 1: year old daughter, Grace.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Save, and he is mister Scott Share. Scott, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being here today.
Speaker 2: Oh thanks again for having me to you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Okay, I'm just gonna hand it over to you,
Speaker 1: and please just if you could share with us the
Speaker 1: story of your amazing Grace.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Yeah, she was amazing. Well, every time somebody
Speaker 2: asked that question, it's like, I'm not prepared for it.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess I'll start with how was she?
Speaker 2: How did she even come about it? You know, because
Speaker 2: you can tell by my gray hair. By the way,
Speaker 2: great great Grace used to call my my hair the
Speaker 2: color of wisdom. Yeah, you know that's pretty wise for
Speaker 2: somebody with Down syndrome. And she called me earthly dad.
Speaker 2: You know who does that? You know, so you can
Speaker 2: tell just by what I'm saying, she was special. She
Speaker 2: was special from God's perspective. Uh. And I'd like to
Speaker 2: share stories about her, which I'll share a couple of
Speaker 2: stories because it gives you a flavor. But then you know,
Speaker 2: ultimately why am I here? Well, I'm here because she
Speaker 2: was murdered. You know, we'll get to that. But you
Speaker 2: know the backdrop of you know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: will say, well, how do you have the strength to
Speaker 2: do this? Well, God has given me the strength. But
Speaker 2: you know, from an earthly perspective, Grace is so easy
Speaker 2: to fight for because she she loved me unconditionally. I've
Speaker 2: never met somebody like her before. When we decided to
Speaker 2: have her. You know, strangely, we were chasing the American dream.
Speaker 2: We had two point one kids already, one point seven dogs,
Speaker 2: no cats, of course, and you know we're going to
Speaker 2: retire on the front porch when we're fifty in drink beer, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the American dream. So we're chasing this
Speaker 2: American dream, you know, one foot in the world, one
Speaker 2: foot in Christianity. And then you know, it's like it
Speaker 2: came upon Cindy and I both at the same time
Speaker 2: we should turn the baby department over to God. So
Speaker 2: we're already we're thirty nine years old. I mean, you
Speaker 2: don't have babies when you're thirty nine, most people don't.
Speaker 2: But you know, five minutes later, Cindy got pregnant, and
Speaker 2: I always tease her that she's fertile myrtleed but you know, ultimately,
Speaker 2: you know, then nine months later we have Grace. So
Speaker 2: September twenty second of two thousand and two, God God
Speaker 2: blessed us with a down syndroome daughter and we named
Speaker 2: her Grace after God's Grace. When she came out, I
Speaker 2: was in the delivery room and we had never done
Speaker 2: any of the testing. And when Soshio when she came out,
Speaker 2: I thought, I said to Cindy, I said, I think
Speaker 2: she has Down syndrome, and you know, because she just
Speaker 2: had the features, and they whisked her away because she
Speaker 2: wasn't pinking up right away, got her on oxygen, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. But the doctors came in. Then shortly after
Speaker 2: they had a huddle outside of the room, and then
Speaker 2: one of the doctors came in and said, we suspect
Speaker 2: your daughter has Down syndrome. Do you want to keep her?
Speaker 2: You know, at that time, I wasn't awake to anything,
Speaker 2: and so you know, I presumed what they meant was,
Speaker 2: you know, put he up for adoption. They even said,
Speaker 2: we have people waiting in the wings for children such
Speaker 2: as these, so I presume adoption. I mean, that's with
Speaker 2: what I've learned now through all the rabbit holes I've
Speaker 2: went into, I have no idea what they meant. However,
Speaker 2: this agenda to take out down syndrome babies has been
Speaker 2: alive and well in our supposed great country that we've
Speaker 2: been led to as a great country. But you know,
Speaker 2: to give you the statistics, ninety percent of downsow or
Speaker 2: babies are murdered in the womb today because of the
Speaker 2: programming related to non contributing citizens don't deserve medical care,
Speaker 2: they're a burden on society. All that collectivism nonsense has
Speaker 2: infiltrated into the insurance industry, the Center for Medicare and
Speaker 2: Medicaid Services, Obamacare, it's all in there. So with the insurance.
Speaker 2: For example, you know, the young couple gets pregnant today
Speaker 2: and the doctor congratulates them on their pregnancy, but the
Speaker 2: next thing that he does is says, let's schedule your amniocentesis. Well,
Speaker 2: there's only one reason to schedule in amniocentesis, which is
Speaker 2: to reduce the population. And the young couple has no
Speaker 2: roots typically, right, So then they all they ask is
Speaker 2: does my insurance pay for it? You're not realizing, of
Speaker 2: course your insurance paced for it. Why, because they're in
Speaker 2: on it. They're all in on this population reduction agenda,
Speaker 2: and it is it is a serious agenda. I'll just
Speaker 2: share a couple more stories about Grace because you're giving
Speaker 2: me that latitude, and I love talking about her, and
Speaker 2: I'll give you one concluding statement. But Grace was pretty
Speaker 2: sharp kid. I mean, she was really a sharp kid.
Speaker 2: And I have this really dumb sense of humor. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's dumb, but I say it's dumb because
Speaker 2: my wife thinks it's dumb anyway, So it's a literal
Speaker 2: sense of humor. So our son, Travis came up with this.
Speaker 2: The first time I noticed it, he was about five
Speaker 2: years old, and I'm reading the newspaper that tells you
Speaker 2: how old I am. And Travis says, Dad, can you
Speaker 2: help me with whatever? I said, give me a second, Travis,
Speaker 2: And Travis says back to me, how come when people
Speaker 2: say a second, they really don't mean it. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 2: that's right. So I mean this, this gets ratcheted up
Speaker 2: between Travis and I, and I mean it just becomes fun.
Speaker 2: Well Grace. Then Grace comes along, and the first time
Speaker 2: I that I noticed that she caught onto this is
Speaker 2: when my wife said, well, you got to go to
Speaker 2: Walmart and get whatever. And I hate Walmart. I just
Speaker 2: I do not care for that store. But regardless I
Speaker 2: must have done something wrong. You gotta go to Walmart.
Speaker 2: So I said, hey, Grace, come with Dad, let's go
Speaker 2: to Walmart. So on the way to Walmart, I said, Grace,
Speaker 2: just so you know, when we get there, everyone who
Speaker 2: shops at Walmart is a zombie. So so we get
Speaker 2: into the store and you Grace, Grace starts poking people
Speaker 2: in the stomach. Yes, and she says, Dad, they're not zombies.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, she's gonna get She's gonna
Speaker 2: get this. She ends up getting it. She ends up
Speaker 2: getting this stuff, and oh my, oh gosh, it was
Speaker 2: so funny. When she turned eighteen, we went to get
Speaker 2: her ID. So we went to the DMV to get
Speaker 2: an ID for her. And this is still when I
Speaker 2: was in the voting dialectic. She wanted to vote, and
Speaker 2: so I said, okay, let's get your ID. So I said, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, Grace, Now that we got your ID,
Speaker 2: let's get a checking account open up. So we go
Speaker 2: to the credit union and I called the manager ahead
Speaker 2: of time and said, can I bring in my daughter
Speaker 2: who instead of a checking account? So we sit down
Speaker 2: with the branch manager and we get Grace's checking account
Speaker 2: set up and the branch manager says to Grace, would
Speaker 2: you also like to have a credit card? And Grace says, well,
Speaker 2: of course, and so that then the manager asked her
Speaker 2: what would you like the limit to be? And Grace
Speaker 2: says thirty and the manager says thirty dollars. Grace said, no,
Speaker 2: thirty thousand. Wow. It was so cute. So anyway, I
Speaker 2: said to the manager, I mean, whatever, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: signing for it. So I said, I don't care. But
Speaker 2: she said, why don't we just start her out of
Speaker 2: the thousand that will see? Anyway, it was, it was
Speaker 2: so cute. You know. I'll just say one last thing,
Speaker 2: and closing the background on Grace is that when you know,
Speaker 2: the first couple of years, when you have somebody like
Speaker 2: her in your life, you know, you you think about
Speaker 2: things differently. You think about them from your perspective, because
Speaker 2: that's all you can do. So I project out and think, well,
Speaker 2: she's never going to drive, she's never going to have
Speaker 2: a she's never going to live on her own, she's
Speaker 2: never gonna get married, all these all these negative things, right,
Speaker 2: And you know, as things progress, we ended up building
Speaker 2: a home for Grace on our property. I taught her
Speaker 2: how to drive, I taught her how to deer hunt,
Speaker 2: all these things, and and she taught me, well she
Speaker 2: didn't teach it to me because I don't have it
Speaker 2: down yet, but she she gave me a glimpse as
Speaker 2: to what love looks like. And after I really saw
Speaker 2: who Grace was, I thought I wish I had down syndrome.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's that's a little bit of background about
Speaker 2: my best buddy. And you know, she's easy to fight for.
Speaker 2: And now that I see what I you know, the
Speaker 2: platform I've been given, I see that she has saved
Speaker 2: many lives. You know, we as a family, we go
Speaker 2: back to Genesis fifty twenty, which says what you meant
Speaker 2: for evil, God meant for good, the saving of many lives,
Speaker 2: which is happening today. So you know, that has two
Speaker 2: aspects to it. The physical, which is, you know, I've
Speaker 2: done a whole bunch of research on medical murder and
Speaker 2: the reality there's one hundred and forty two thousand new
Speaker 2: medical murders in America every single month today. So that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's the culmination of about fifteen hundred hours
Speaker 2: of research to come to that conclusion and see it
Speaker 2: and be able to say that confidently. So it's just
Speaker 2: not a dad saying that, it's a researcher saying it.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, much more important is the spiritual
Speaker 2: saving of lives. And boy, have I dug into that
Speaker 2: I had just a cursory knowledge of Satan before Grace died,
Speaker 2: and now I really understand how integrated and masterfully. Oh,
Speaker 2: he's masterfully put together the matrix of the world. It's
Speaker 2: pretty mind blowing. So anyway, that's where things have gone,
Speaker 2: just quickly to go through Grace's hospital murder. This was
Speaker 2: in October of twenty one. The fourth quarter of twenty
Speaker 2: one was the highest hospital murders during COVID. The reason
Speaker 2: was is because the Brook Jackson lawsuited has had already
Speaker 2: been filed, and the federal government knew if that got out,
Speaker 2: people are not going to take the job anymore because
Speaker 2: it was exposed as a bioweapon through this law suit.
Speaker 2: So in that quarter, family practitioners were incentivice to the
Speaker 2: tune of two hundred and ninety six thousand dollars if
Speaker 2: they could convince seventy five percent of their patient populations
Speaker 2: to get the JAB. They had to kill people in
Speaker 2: the hospitals to get the fear porn high. So Grace
Speaker 2: became a casualty of war. But the war is against
Speaker 2: the citizens. She became a casualty of war, So how
Speaker 2: did she even get there? Well, she got there. And
Speaker 2: this is the most important thing I could ever tell
Speaker 2: anybody is she got there because I took her there.
Speaker 2: And I took her there because I didn't rely on God.
Speaker 2: I got caught up in the fear porn, and my
Speaker 2: fear motivated me to do things for our family, like
Speaker 2: get ivermectin. But ultimately I was following a less evil perspective.
Speaker 2: So evil being you know, mask mandates the shots all that.
Speaker 2: We weren't following that crap. But I followed the FLCCC,
Speaker 2: the Frontline COVID Critical Care Doctor Protocol. Now that I
Speaker 2: see it, it was a less evil protocol. And I
Speaker 2: say that very bluntly. I'm not against these people because
Speaker 2: I don't know where their hearts are. But you know,
Speaker 2: if I would have had God's armor on it at
Speaker 2: that time, I would have seen their promoting masks right
Speaker 2: in the protocol that we were adopting. Their promoting masks, well,
Speaker 2: they know better than masks. They promoted us getting a
Speaker 2: pull sox. So we started measuring Grace's oxygen saturation. We
Speaker 2: would have never bought that tool. Grace would be alive today.
Speaker 2: Why because we started measuring with it. We had no
Speaker 2: business measuring with that tool because we had no baseline.
Speaker 2: So their protocol at the time said, if your oxygen
Speaker 2: saturation drops below ninety four percent, admit yourself to the
Speaker 2: hospital because it's an emergency. And on October sixth of
Speaker 2: twenty one, Grace's oxygen saturation dropped to eighty eight percent,
Speaker 2: so we panic. Ultimately, seven days later, she's dead. If
Speaker 2: we have never taken her to the hospital, she'd be
Speaker 2: alive today. They convinced us. The emergency room physician convinced
Speaker 2: me personally that let's just check Grace into the hospital
Speaker 2: for three or four days as a preventative. She acknowledged
Speaker 2: that Grace was just had a cold, you know, she
Speaker 2: had supposed COVID whatever that was. But she said, let's
Speaker 2: just do this as a preventive. I thought, well, that
Speaker 2: makes sense. In fact, I said, I'll be staying with Grace,
Speaker 2: and they said you can't. I said, well, then I'll
Speaker 2: take her home. You know, I just thought the hospital
Speaker 2: thing was just you know, I'm either taking her home
Speaker 2: or in the hospital. But they promised me we'll just
Speaker 2: put her on oxygen and a steroid for three four
Speaker 2: days and you know, get her home. If they would
Speaker 2: have just done that Grace would be a life today,
Speaker 2: but they didn't. They started oxygen therapy and they ratchet
Speaker 2: Grace up to her from a regular canula to a
Speaker 2: vapril therm to a bypath the first day in the hospital,
Speaker 2: and then then they started sedating Grace on October ninth,
Speaker 2: first full day in the hospital of the seventh, they
Speaker 2: started sedating her on the ninth. On the tenth, I
Speaker 2: was to take get out by an arm guard for
Speaker 2: challenging the nurses. And then on it took us forty
Speaker 2: seven hours to get our daughter Jessica in as a
Speaker 2: replacement advocate. We had to get an attorney involved to
Speaker 2: go through Grace's Americans with Disabilities Act rights with the
Speaker 2: hospital attorney. So now Jessica is in the room with Grace.
Speaker 2: Grace is still herself. On October twelfth, the day before
Speaker 2: she died, even though at this point she had been
Speaker 2: sedated for four days with a sedation met called precedex. Well,
Speaker 2: the morning of the thirteenth, the doctor called us and
Speaker 2: here's where you see the agenda. You know, COVID exposed
Speaker 2: the agenda. So I definitely don't want people to think
Speaker 2: that this is about COVID. It had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with COVID. COVID happened to be the first time that
Speaker 2: the federal government directly incentivized hospitals to kill patients. They've
Speaker 2: been indirectly incentivizing hospitals to kill patients since the early
Speaker 2: eighties through standards of care that are promoted by the
Speaker 2: Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. They do that by
Speaker 2: regulating the reimbursement rates of the medical providers for their
Speaker 2: entire patient population. So that's how they have manipulated death care,
Speaker 2: so standards of death. They've been manipulating standards of care
Speaker 2: since the early eighties. COVID was the first time they
Speaker 2: directly incentivized. So now you turn the page to Grace's
Speaker 2: last day, and that morning started with the doctor calling
Speaker 2: us a little after ten o'clock in the morning saying,
Speaker 2: what did you decide relative to a pre authorization for
Speaker 2: a ventilator? But you know, at this point we'd already
Speaker 2: knew I did the research while Grace is in the
Speaker 2: hospital and ventilators. I walked into the hospital with the
Speaker 2: ventilator paradigm that then President you know, prior President Trump
Speaker 2: had said, you know, we've got we've got a ventilator shortage.
Speaker 2: We got to implement the War Powers Act. It was
Speaker 2: all a bunch of crap. You know. Even in the
Speaker 2: presidential debate, he still was prom voting that he used ventilators.
Speaker 2: We save people. These ventilators. No, ventilators killed ninety percent
Speaker 2: of the people, and they were incentive. Ice to the tune.
Speaker 2: When you add the incentives with the average hospital stay
Speaker 2: at twenty two days, it was like hitting triple sevens
Speaker 2: on the slot machine. So the night before, on the twelfth,
Speaker 2: the doctor had asked us for the fourth time for
Speaker 2: a pre authorization. We said, no, I'll call you back
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning to just see if you've changed your mind.
Speaker 2: So he does, and so we said, no, we're not
Speaker 2: going to give a pre authorization for a ventilator. If
Speaker 2: we would have done that, Grace would not have died
Speaker 2: on October thirteenth. She would have died twenty two days later,
Speaker 2: because that's how the formula works. He said no. He said, well,
Speaker 2: Grace said such a good day yesterday. We should get
Speaker 2: her out of bed today. We should work on nutrition. So, lie, lie,
Speaker 2: why do I say that? He had already strapped Grace
Speaker 2: down to the bed and made her defecate in the bed. Okay,
Speaker 2: while we're on the phone, the nurse, who had twenty
Speaker 2: years of ice you experience, increased the dose of PRESSX
Speaker 2: to the maximum, all the dose while we're on the phone.
Speaker 2: Then we, because we're trusting this foolish white coat, we
Speaker 2: approved a feeding tube. Okay, So that was just another
Speaker 2: way to add additional revenue. Because I when I tell
Speaker 2: you what they did next, you'll see, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't see any way to see it other than they
Speaker 2: intended to kill her. Because the phone call ended at
Speaker 2: ten fifty five, so it's simultaneous. Then with hanging up
Speaker 2: the phone at at ten fifty five ten fifty six,
Speaker 2: he put an illegal do not resuscitate order in Grace's chart.
Speaker 2: Then they combined precedects with lurazepam and morphine to euthanize Grace.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna share what I learned about that after
Speaker 2: I close out her day. Jessica panicking, called Cindy and
Speaker 2: I at seven eighteen PM on October thirteen. They had
Speaker 2: given Grace morphine at six fifteen, so this process, she's
Speaker 2: on max dos precedex. They gave her lurazapam at eleven
Speaker 2: twenty five. Loarazepam at five forty six. Laurazapam has a
Speaker 2: twelve to fourteen hour half life. So now she's her
Speaker 2: body is like this syringe. Okay, these meds are contraindicated.
Speaker 2: You should read the morphine package insert and you see
Speaker 2: they're not supposed to be doing this, right, this is
Speaker 2: what you do to euthanize somebody in hospice care. So
Speaker 2: Jessica's seeing Grace's numbers are tanking. She calls us at
Speaker 2: seven eighteen, seven forty three. So this is twenty eight
Speaker 2: minutes after the doctor gave Grace morphine. He called Cindy
Speaker 2: and I at home and said I just gave Grace
Speaker 2: morphine and actually started with Grace. He said, Grace had
Speaker 2: another good day to day. I just gave her morphine.
Speaker 2: I said, well, what's the reason you gave her morphine?
Speaker 2: You know, we're just still trusting the White code R.
Speaker 2: This is why I had to slower breathing down. You know,
Speaker 2: we didn't realize he wanted to slow it down to zero, right, yeah, right,
Speaker 2: So seven eighteen Jessica called us panicking. We're on a
Speaker 2: FaceTime call. And she said, Dad, Grace's numbers are dropping
Speaker 2: like crazy. I said, get the nurses and she said,
Speaker 2: I've been trying. They refuse, so we start screaming. The
Speaker 2: nurses are outside in the hallway, it's shift change time.
Speaker 2: Jessica estimated thirty nurses out there. There's a guard out
Speaker 2: there outside the door, and we screamed, save our daughter.
Speaker 2: That's when we learned she was DNR, because they hollered back,
Speaker 2: she's DNR, and we holler, she's not DNR. Save our daughter.
Speaker 2: They refused. None of them would even come in the room,
Speaker 2: and we watched her die at seven twenty seven pm
Speaker 2: on October thirteenth of twenty twenty one. You know what
Speaker 2: plued us in that evening when you know it was
Speaker 2: several hours later. Cindy's being walked out in a wheelchair
Speaker 2: by our pastor at that point, and one of the
Speaker 2: nurses had Grace's belongings on a cart and she leaned
Speaker 2: down and said, Missus, Shira, me and several of the
Speaker 2: nurses don't think Grace should have died today. Well, then
Speaker 2: I end up in a different hospital three days later.
Speaker 2: A friend of Cindy and I that we went to
Speaker 2: high school with as a doctor. She called me, I
Speaker 2: think a day or so after Grace's funeral, and she said, Scott,
Speaker 2: I think you better get the records. And you can
Speaker 2: see God's hand in so many things my hospital stay.
Speaker 2: God's hand was in getting the right We got the
Speaker 2: records four days later, right, nobody right. So the doctor
Speaker 2: and I we start going through the records and we realized,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Grace was killed all right. So then
Speaker 2: I send a letter to patient relations via email with
Speaker 2: all the we put together a kind of a chronological
Speaker 2: times line and all this, and he sent it to
Speaker 2: the patient relations requesting a meeting with the hospital CEO
Speaker 2: and the doctor I had put together. I had taken
Speaker 2: no while I was in the hospital, and I put
Speaker 2: together all those notes everything into a document so I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe ten twelve pages long, but not eleven.
Speaker 2: And we send that all to the hospital. Then they
Speaker 2: on December tewond they send an email back and they said,
Speaker 2: we're not going to meet with you. I thought, well,
Speaker 2: this is strange. So then I sent a complaint to
Speaker 2: the state Licensing Board. They did an investigation, sent me
Speaker 2: a letter in January. January twenty fourth of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: three and I could got went out too the mailbox.
Speaker 2: I say, oh my gosh, this letter from that was
Speaker 2: Department of Safety and Professional Services, which is the state
Speaker 2: licensing board. Oh this is great. I opened it up.
Speaker 2: Oh they said the doctor didn't do anything wrong. So
Speaker 2: that's the first day of my wake up. I thought,
Speaker 2: everybody's in on this, but what does that mean. I
Speaker 2: started doing a whole bunch of research. We started putting
Speaker 2: billboards out and a whistleblower called me after seeing the billboards,
Speaker 2: and this is the day I realized Grace was murdered.
Speaker 2: She was a pharmacist. She works worked for Ascension Hospital System.
Speaker 2: That's the same system Grace is murdered at. And she
Speaker 2: saw the billboards because they got national exposure. They're local,
Speaker 2: but they got national media attention. And she saw Grace
Speaker 2: aid downsent and she has a down centom daughter. She
Speaker 2: got a hold of me and she said, Scott, I
Speaker 2: want you to understand how this works. She said, the
Speaker 2: doctor ordered those meds that killed Grace, but the pharmacist
Speaker 2: had to sign off on the order. She said, I'm
Speaker 2: a pharmacist and when those orders come through for me
Speaker 2: to sign off on, I won't do it. So what
Speaker 2: they do is they wait till my shift is done,
Speaker 2: and they'll get the next pharmacist who's more concerned about
Speaker 2: his paycheck to sign off on that order. Then the
Speaker 2: next level is because those meds are contraindicated, they had
Speaker 2: to override the alarm. And then the final step is,
Speaker 2: in Grace's case, the nurse had twenty years of ice
Speaker 2: you experience. So that's when I got to the point
Speaker 2: where I realized Grace was murdered. And then you know,
Speaker 2: it takes you know, then it takes a turn because now,
Speaker 2: what's the reason she's murdered? Why did this happen? And
Speaker 2: that's when I came across you know, the you know collectivism, Obamacare,
Speaker 2: you know section fifteen fifty three of Obamacare, which which
Speaker 2: legalized youth in Asia, you know, all these different things,
Speaker 2: and then okay, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 1: My first question is this is it legal for them
Speaker 1: to put a dn R without an advocate?
Speaker 2: I don't fantastic question. We have five claims in our lawsuit.
Speaker 2: One of the claims is a declaratory judgment for the
Speaker 2: illegal do not resuscitate order, and we have that claim
Speaker 2: specifically because our lawsuit is not about money. We've already
Speaker 2: that if we get any money, we're not even taking it.
Speaker 2: So I don't care about the medical malpractice piece of
Speaker 2: the lawsuit. I care about the two claims that matter
Speaker 2: to the rest of the population. One is medical battery
Speaker 2: and the other one is the declaratory judgment for the
Speaker 2: illegal do net resuscitate order. So is it legal? The
Speaker 2: answer to that question is no, it is not. However,
Speaker 2: you and I grew up in an era which we
Speaker 2: would call in legal terms, the rule of law. So
Speaker 2: the rule of law essentially says, even though we have
Speaker 2: different ways to skin the cat, we all agree this
Speaker 2: rule box is we're gonna all stay within the rule box. Now,
Speaker 2: in this world that we live in, the rule box
Speaker 2: is gone, and their thought processes sue me because we
Speaker 2: know you can't. Right. So I'm going to give you
Speaker 2: two very pointed examples. I think I have them up
Speaker 2: on this screen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, I like to tell people, now we are in
Speaker 1: a system where we're quoting laws to men with swords.
Speaker 2: Yes, quote exactly.
Speaker 1: To quote the General Pompey. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to give you two examples of why
Speaker 2: they say it's legal So one was from the state
Speaker 2: Licensing Board. So the State Licensing Board sent this back.
Speaker 2: They're really brazen with what they say. I can hardly
Speaker 2: believe it. They wrote, I'm just I'm quoting this now.
Speaker 2: It says quote Chapter one fifty four, which is the
Speaker 2: Wisconsin DNR Statute of the Wisconsin Statutes, does not apply
Speaker 2: to physicians operating in a hospital non emergency room setting
Speaker 2: such as the one in question. So the state Licensing
Speaker 2: Board is saying doctors can put dnrs on anybody they want. Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: it gets worse than the State Licensing Board. So then
Speaker 2: we got a different attorney involved, and that attorney we
Speaker 2: wanted to file a criminal case. And interestingly, the local
Speaker 2: police department opened up a criminal case earlier at my request,
Speaker 2: and then it left that we don't have enough evidence,
Speaker 2: but they left it open that if we could provide
Speaker 2: more evidence. So it's still at that point. So we're
Speaker 2: planning on filing a criminal case after the civil case
Speaker 2: is done. But in this attorney wrote a beautiful letter
Speaker 2: explained why we have a legitimate criminal case, and the
Speaker 2: district attorney wrote this back. So I'm going to quote again,
Speaker 2: and this is one of those things. When you read it,
Speaker 2: you think, how is this even possible that they could
Speaker 2: they even put this in writing, But they did. Here's
Speaker 2: again quoting. This is from the DA's letter back to
Speaker 2: the attorney who helped us attempt to file a criminal case.
Speaker 2: She wrote, quote, A doctor is not required to administer
Speaker 2: treatment she or he believes is not medically effective, includes
Speaker 2: authorizing a DNR. The parties clearly had a dispute about
Speaker 2: how doctor show Card should treat Grace. Doctor show Card
Speaker 2: did not abide by the wishes of the family. However,
Speaker 2: there is no law in Wisconsin that requires him to
Speaker 2: do so.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that leaves everyone fair game exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless they try to tell you. You know, the system says
Speaker 1: get a living will and get powers of attorney and
Speaker 1: all this. What does it matter if if Leviathan under
Speaker 1: the healthcare guys just says, well, you know what, we're
Speaker 1: just going to slap a DNR on this group of
Speaker 1: people or whatever.
Speaker 2: Bingo. That's why I keep speaking out, because you know,
Speaker 2: it's gas is now down to two dollars and eighty
Speaker 2: five cents here locally, so everything's back to normal, right, No,
Speaker 2: it's not back to normal. These are all illusions to
Speaker 2: get us off track.
Speaker 1: As the bread and circuses Scott, That's what it is,
Speaker 1: bread and circuses. That's unfortunately where we live. My next
Speaker 1: question was do you think that the fact that Grace
Speaker 1: had Down syndrome had something to do with her treatment?
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. I'm going to again find a document
Speaker 2: here in May and why you find that.
Speaker 1: I'll just add that when you spoke earlier about the
Speaker 1: standards of death, I love the way you frame that.
Speaker 1: It's not a standard of care, it's a standard of death.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how we need to turn things upside down.
Speaker 2: And look at them.
Speaker 1: I call it dyslexically. Let me look at things dyslexically
Speaker 1: so I can see the full picture. But you are
Speaker 1: so right. We are programmed from the beginning to speak
Speaker 1: in the negative and to think in the negative. Well,
Speaker 1: this person, I saw it during the Terry Schivo situation,
Speaker 1: that that was the most horrendous situation. I call that
Speaker 1: the first instance of a state sanctioned murder against a
Speaker 1: born person because that's exactly what it was. And where
Speaker 1: were the feminists?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Here we had every man mostly around this woman, the judge,
Speaker 1: the husband, whatever, didn't want to divorce her, but you know, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got a killer because she said twenty years ago
Speaker 1: that's the way she wanted to die. And yet you know,
Speaker 1: there was there was no uproar from the feminists, but
Speaker 1: I heard a lot of banter back then and people saying,
Speaker 1: well I wouldn't want to live that way. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: get your living well and see how that worked for you,
Speaker 1: because you'll be next. You know, the government would be
Speaker 1: happy to kill you, just so just wait your turn,
Speaker 1: I guess. But be very careful about people who say, well,
Speaker 1: that person's better off dead.
Speaker 2: How do you know? Yeah, how do they know? They
Speaker 2: don't how do they know.
Speaker 1: They've never experienced. They are intellectually slothful. They want to
Speaker 1: stay in their corner. They don't want to engage with
Speaker 1: another human being because if they recognize the human being,
Speaker 1: then they might have to recognize that that person is valuable.
Speaker 1: And if someone is breathing, and I don't care what
Speaker 1: situation they're in, they have purpose until we're fantastic.
Speaker 2: That's spot on. And just jumping ahead, I'm going to
Speaker 2: answer your question about down syndrome, but jumping ahead to
Speaker 2: I see medicare and Medicaid was the ultimate bait and switch.
Speaker 2: So Medicare Medicaid was passed on July thirtieth of nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty five. And like most laws, it's the idea that, well,
Speaker 2: we got to take care of the elderly, we have
Speaker 2: to take the disabled. Just process this. The elderly should
Speaker 2: have always been taken care of by the family, right,
Speaker 2: So then two years later we have nursing homes. So
Speaker 2: then we have this whole mindset, you know, out of sight,
Speaker 2: out of mind. You know, it's you know, we can
Speaker 2: go on with a our selfish lives, right, all of this.
Speaker 2: So this is all I because I see it now
Speaker 2: through the lens of a spiritual war and the Satanic agenda.
Speaker 2: This is all by design and by design should be bolded, underlined,
Speaker 2: all caps. This is all by design. So Medicare and
Speaker 2: Medicaid was passed by design to create the death funnel
Speaker 2: that is happening today. One hundred and thirty five million,
Speaker 2: so over one third of the American population is on
Speaker 2: Medicare and medicaid. So now, of course, oh, we've got
Speaker 2: to balance a budget. Well, they don't have to balance
Speaker 2: a budget. We have a fiat currency. We'll never have
Speaker 2: a balance budget. Right, So about twice a year they
Speaker 2: throw out these these red herrings that, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: Social Security is going to go bankrupt, Medicare and Medicaid
Speaker 2: is going to go bankrupt. Those will never go bankrupt
Speaker 2: because they're by design. They're by designed to enslave us. Okay,
Speaker 2: so when you see the stand of care for Medicare
Speaker 2: and Medicaid, you see, oh, they're just completely designed to
Speaker 2: hasten death because they've convinced the population people are too expensive. Well, newsflash,
Speaker 2: everybody listening is going to someday be elderly or disabled. Right, Hello, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all on the same journey.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the relative to down center. You know, the
Speaker 2: first thing I got asked this question by the way
Speaker 2: of my deposition, and so it's I'm so fluent in
Speaker 2: this answer because the first thing is how was Grace born?
Speaker 2: I already told you the story. Then you add ninety
Speaker 2: percent of down syndrome babies are murdered in the womb. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: how is that even possible? Right? You can see there's
Speaker 2: an agenda, well in Grace's actual charts. So when how
Speaker 2: it works in a hospital, when you get the records
Speaker 2: every single time a doctor goes in the patient's room
Speaker 2: here or she has to write a report. So during
Speaker 2: the seven days Grace was in the hospital, there were
Speaker 2: twenty two doctors who entered her room and did something
Speaker 2: with her. So there's consequently twenty two doctors reports. Well,
Speaker 2: in the twenty two doctors' reports, they referenced that Grace
Speaker 2: had Down syndrome thirty six different times. Right, So then
Speaker 2: what the heck is going on? And yet they didn't
Speaker 2: know they acknowledged that they did, had no special training
Speaker 2: for Down syndrome in the room. They never engaged her,
Speaker 2: you know, she never got to know her. She was
Speaker 2: just this thing. Right. Well, then what I found after
Speaker 2: I found section fifteen fifty three of Obamacare, So just
Speaker 2: to give people a framework, Obamacare was passed March twenty
Speaker 2: three to twenty ten. In July of eleven, this I found.
Speaker 2: This document is a training document for physicians. So this
Speaker 2: document is called Palliative Care for Patients with Down Syndrome.
Speaker 2: It's written by two mds. It's a training document for mds,
Speaker 2: so it has three parts to it. The introduction is
Speaker 2: all the problems with Down syndrome. So it's titled the
Speaker 2: introductions to this document is causes of morbidity and death
Speaker 2: in Down syndrome, and it lists all the problems, doesn't
Speaker 2: list anything good about Down syndrome. So people down syndrome
Speaker 2: can have thyroid dysfunction, seizures, osteoporosis, chronic constipation, incontinence, blob,
Speaker 2: fifty different things. Okay, so it got all these problems.
Speaker 2: So then the body of it, so introduction body conclusion, right,
Speaker 2: so they introduce it with all these problems the body.
Speaker 2: I'm going to quote from this document, the lifelong toll
Speaker 2: on families is high. Part of a robust plan of
Speaker 2: care includes acknowledgment of this toll by the healthcare providers.
Speaker 2: So they're setting the doctor up to hey, listen, you
Speaker 2: need to come in on a white horse and rescue
Speaker 2: this family from this nasty thing that they have in
Speaker 2: their household, this disease they have called Down syndrome in
Speaker 2: their household. This is a toll on this family. Doctor.
Speaker 2: So you see the training. The close is the kill statement.
Speaker 2: It says, whenever possible, decision makers this is the doctors
Speaker 2: for people with Down syndrome should be encouraged to use
Speaker 2: substituted judgment to make key pallid of care decisions. All
Speaker 2: efforts should be made to determine the preferences of the patient. However,
Speaker 2: because of lifelong cognitive impairment, the views of the person
Speaker 2: with down center may not be known. This is the
Speaker 2: terry shallow thing, right, The views of the person may
Speaker 2: not be known. So as soon as soon as you
Speaker 2: have you know, your first day of dementia or my
Speaker 2: first day of dimension. Also, the views of the person
Speaker 2: may not be known. So now we have to use
Speaker 2: our judgment, right, yes.
Speaker 1: And now you're there's completely correct. Yeah, So where are
Speaker 1: we now in the legal process. We have a June
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five is the court I know it
Speaker 1: got pushed back from next month November, right because there
Speaker 1: was a wit there was someone else at it. Is
Speaker 1: that accurate right.
Speaker 2: Out of a sixth doctor, So our original filings. What's
Speaker 2: neat about the lawsuit is that it's not neat from
Speaker 2: a checkbook perspective. But we're paying our own way, so
Speaker 2: that means I'm not turning any decision making over to
Speaker 2: the attorneys. They're my advisors, okay. So one of the
Speaker 2: things that they advised against was to have doctors and
Speaker 2: nurses as defendants. I said, well, what would be the
Speaker 2: purpose of the lawsuit. I don't want any money. So
Speaker 2: if I don't have the doctors and nurses as defendants,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm after all doctors and nurses being unnotice
Speaker 2: that you are responsible for your choices. The hospital didn't
Speaker 2: kill Grace. The hospital gave the doctors and nurses the gun,
Speaker 2: but then they loaded and pulled the trigger. So the
Speaker 2: hospital is certainly a party to the lawsuit, but then
Speaker 2: the individual doctors and nurses. So that makes of course
Speaker 2: a much more complicated and expensive loss, but it needs
Speaker 2: to be that way. So then what happened is when
Speaker 2: we did the first round of depositions, the main doctor
Speaker 2: who I reference in that d's letter, doctor Shokar, he
Speaker 2: brought up another doctor that we knew of. I mean,
Speaker 2: we have the record from him, but we did not
Speaker 2: understand his role. And so then what happens in this
Speaker 2: crazy legal system is you end up having to add
Speaker 2: him because what the you know. So we get done
Speaker 2: after that first round of depositions, and the legal team
Speaker 2: is saying, well, I think we should add doctor Gandev.
Speaker 2: He's the sixth doctor, And I said, I don't want
Speaker 2: to add doctor gandeb I want to get this trial.
Speaker 2: I mean people are dying one hundred and forty two
Speaker 2: thousand a month. I want, you know, our trial has
Speaker 2: the opportunity to save life. And they said, Scott, you know,
Speaker 2: we've been processing this and we have to add him
Speaker 2: because there's a legal principle. This isn't necessarily you know,
Speaker 2: legal doesn't mean lawful. There's a legal principle called the
Speaker 2: empty chair defense. And so if we don't add doctor
Speaker 2: Gendev when we get to the jury trial, if the
Speaker 2: jury believes Gendev is fifty one percent liabel, we lose.
Speaker 2: So we had to add him. So then that extends
Speaker 2: everything out. So right now we're we're working on a
Speaker 2: deadline of some time in December. There's a deadline for
Speaker 2: expert reports. So we've got a number of depositions. We
Speaker 2: did depositions last week, we have some more depositions this week,
Speaker 2: we have every week we have depositions right now, you know,
Speaker 2: working towards that deadline of getting our expert reports in
Speaker 2: on time. And you know, we're I think we're in
Speaker 2: on the right timetable. So it seems like it's going
Speaker 2: to work out fine. But you know, what a bunch
Speaker 2: of foolishness.
Speaker 1: You know, even ten years ago, I would have said,
Speaker 1: at least this audience would believe you. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know it's now. It's you know, we're in a society
Speaker 1: that goes a mile wide and an inch deep, and
Speaker 1: it is inconvenient to come up against hard truths and realities.
Speaker 1: And I've never gotten the whole ignorance is bliss. I
Speaker 1: just don't buy that. It's the same thing you know
Speaker 1: you mentioned before. You know, we outsource the care and
Speaker 1: education and finance and protection. We outsource the blessings of
Speaker 1: liberty because we think that inconvenient things are infringing upon
Speaker 1: the blessings. But we're not seeing the blessings in the adversity, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have aging parents trying to take care
Speaker 1: of them. If there's a situation where I can't physically help,
Speaker 1: then we have a different conversation. But I won them
Speaker 1: with me as long as I can, and that teaches me,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm going to care for those who
Speaker 1: cared for me. And can I really enjoy retirement or
Speaker 1: that beer on the porch or guitar picking or whatever,
Speaker 1: knowing that I outsourced, well, I'm just going to say,
Speaker 1: I think you're a amazing I think your family, Cindy, Jessica,
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for doing what you do.
Speaker 1: We continue to hold you all up in our prayers.
Speaker 1: We know it's God who strengthens us, but boy, I
Speaker 1: know it can get weary. I think you're an amazing dad.
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for sharing your experience
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: God bless you too.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Take care. Okay, Scott's share up. Wow. You
Speaker 1: know I can count on one hand not use all
Speaker 1: the digits, how many biblically meek men. Some people think
Speaker 1: that meek means weak. It does not if you understand
Speaker 1: the biblical principle. But a quiet, resolved strength, party strength,
Speaker 1: and wow, Scott's on that list. Okay. You can also
Speaker 1: find information about the lawsuit, updates, lots of education on
Speaker 1: medical murders on laws, Our Amazinggrace dot net. Our Amazinggrace
Speaker 1: dot net. They also have a gifts and go at
Speaker 1: the corner and I would just ask that you would
Speaker 1: consider donating if you are so led. They are paying
Speaker 1: for this out of pocket, not to get any money,
Speaker 1: but to try to get repentance, and just to try
Speaker 1: to save more people. Okay, I want to thank you
Speaker 1: all for listening. Thank you as always Magic Minstracker. Until
Speaker 1: next time, who will stand at either hand and keep
Speaker 1: the bridge with me? Have a great day.