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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Now here is your host, DJ Leaves. All right, folks,

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welcome in to a live edition of The Big Fight

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week in Preview on YouTube exclusively live. Now, we should

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say that if you're on the podcast, you're hearing it

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as it normally is overnight into Friday. But we did

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this live. We did it live on Thursday evening. I

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am merely the somewhat capable host TJ Reeves all the

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way out of the left coast. For me, I'm on

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the west coast of Florida typically, but now I'm on

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the way left coast in Anaheim, California. I'm out here,

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full disclosure, with my family. My twins are turning seventeen

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years old, and I'm also partaking in whatever this is

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going to be with the Jake Paul, Julio Sesar Chavez

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Junior pay per view. I was at the Thursday press

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conference just a little while ago. That's why we're live.

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It's also good to be with our insider, Big Dan Rayfael.

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Good to be back with you. You're shaking your head.

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I offered to bring you one of those Julio Sesar

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Chavez shirts where he says this is my daddy and

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that's my new daddy, with Jake Paul on the shirt

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with the red, white and green of the Mexican flag.

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You told me you're good on that for the Rayfield collection.

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Good to be with you as we get ready to

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preview the weekend and we're doing it live for the

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YouTube audience right now.

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Speaker 3: Tij I'm good with any boxing wearables. I've got a

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thousand shirts. My wife has all of them, she likes

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to wear them. I couldn't care less.

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Speaker 2: I think it was something to do. It's probably a

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limited edition shirt first of all that Shaves had. Well,

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what happened is full disclosure again. I'm out here. I

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got to the press conference in the Honda Center in

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Anaheim in time to get in for everything to get underway,

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and Jake Paul came over in the introductions and he

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put a handwritten sign in front of Chavez's name. Placard

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said this guy's gonna get knocked the f out Saturday night.

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And when he did that, Chavez Junior called for the

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shirt and then held the shirt up that said this

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is my whole you know, my daddy and here's my

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new daddy with a character of Jake Paul. So they

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were trying to hype the fight earlier today. All right,

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so we're gonna get into that. We should mention, just

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by mention of the previews, Deontay Wilder is back, the

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former WBC heavyweight champion on Friday night. We're gonna talk

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about that fight. You interviewed Wilder. They can find it

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on this YouTube feed under the videos you entered him.

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You can watch the video interview with Dan. You can

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hear it on the podcast feed as well. Hear it

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or see it in the preview mode. You're gonna preview

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it a little more with us and also Christian Mobility

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up and coming undefeated super middleweight contender also in action

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on Friday night in Quebec, Canada. So we're gonna preview

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all of that on the pod, Big Dan. But with

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respect to Paul and Chavez, I know you've been shaking

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your head and rolling your eyes. What are we gonna

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see here? Shop as a blown up middleweight or super

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middleweight at this point? Do you have as low an

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expectation as I sense about this man? Evan, are you

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somewhat intrigued by this?

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Speaker 1: On Saturday night?

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Speaker 3: I'm not intrigued at all, to be quite honest. And

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you know, we've done a million conversations throughout Jake Paul's

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evolving career. I have nothing but respect for Jake's hustle.

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You know, he takes the biggest fights he can find.

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He makes a ton of money. There's a lot of

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people that seem to enjoy the events. He has taken

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some sort of lesser fights to sort of get in

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the reps, to try to you know, polish the resume,

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or not even the resume, I should say, just his

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ability to get experience, and they turn out the you know,

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kind of quick knockouts and everything. You know, I don't

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blame him for doing the fight, but one must not

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forget that in terms of this particular about I'm very

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cynical on this one, and it's I don't blame Jake

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Paul for it. I mean, this was really his third choice.

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Remember if you go back, they were making the Tank

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Davis exhibition, and then Tank had the draw against Lemon

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Roach and they're headed to a rematch later in the summer.

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So okay, that went out the window. You know, then

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there was the prospect of maybe he would be able

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to do a Canelo Alvarez fight, right, and they had

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a deal that was not signed, but by and large

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it was agreed to and don't and they were getting

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things tidied up, and then Turkey al Chic at the

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last moment made Canelo an offer as he said he

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couldn't refuse. And now he's on board doing the fight

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with Terrence Crawford. He had done the skull fight and

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he has other fights on that contract going forward. So

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now Jake Paul struck out with Roach, truck out with Canelo,

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and so who's next. Remember Chavez Junior, who's been basically

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an inactive fighter four years. When he did have a

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fight in between his rehab stints, he was on one

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of Jake's undercards, and that was always sort of, you know,

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proposed as okay, maybe we'll do that match someday. Well,

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when it got down to the third option that they

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went on up with, and I mean again, I'll say

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it for the tenth time opposed. I got nothing against

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Jake Paul. You know, if people are interested in the fight,

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so be it. But to me with anything to do

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with Julio Sezar Chavez Junior not senior, you know, you

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got to be a sucker to be buying or thinking

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that he's gonna put on a great performance because he

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just hasn't had. And that's not even to say he

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can't win the fight, because he is, by definition of

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his career, way more experienced against real fighters than Jake

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paul Is. He frankly should win, even even being diminished.

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But he's also fighting literally like forty pounds heavier than

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where he was at his best. Let's generously say thirty

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two pounds heavier, because maybe you could say it was

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at super middleweight. But he hasn't fought on a regular

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schedule for a long time. He hasn't beaten a good

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fighter since twenty twelve, basically, which was when he beat

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Andy Lee. That was way back when he was still

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holding the WBC's middleweight title. He's lost to like Anderson Silva,

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who was an m m A fighter, you know, uh

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barely beat ERIAH Hall, who was an m m A fighter.

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Speaker 2: That was I think, uh that was the undercard, that

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was the undercard last June in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: I just got no faith in Julio A. Trumps. He's

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a quitter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's you know, he is not the Mexican

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warrior that his father was. That a lot of the

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great Mexicans have been because when the when the tough

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has got to him, you know, he gets going and

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he does and he just quits.

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Speaker 1: Multiple times.

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Speaker 3: He did it, you know, and not only it's one

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thing if you retire, if you're beat up. I mean,

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take more punishment. But he's done in a very unmanly

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like way. Look at the Daniel Jacobs fight, the way

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that fight ended. That's one example. So I'm again, I'm

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cool with the Jake.

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Speaker 1: Side of things. I just have zero personal interest in

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seeing chava is.

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Speaker 2: Now this is interesting. You see my photo here, Raphael,

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I'm efforting to give some some insight and even some

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artif facts that I was there in the Honda Center

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earlier on Thursday afternoon. Again, the podcast audience can't see

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the photo, but for the live audience on YouTube exclusively

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with us, I was there. I can tell you that

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Chavez Junior seemed a whole lot more alert and interested

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than he did in the pre fight press conference a

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year ago in Tampa. But he didn't seem interested at all,

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Speaker 1: Think favors when you're there doing your job and trying to.

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Speaker 2: Build, yeah, and trying to and trying to figure it

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all out, you know. And and Jake Paul was asked, here,

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do you believe that if you win this fight, that

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you legitimately could be in a title fight in the

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next fight or the next couple of fights, and what

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of course he's gonna say yes, And he said, yes,

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I don't know that you and I believe that. I

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don't know that most intelligent, insightful boxing fans believe that

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we hear rumors. You would be better to speak to

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this than.

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Speaker 1: Right. He is a business.

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Speaker 3: If he beats Julio Chavez Junior, the WBA and the WBC,

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he most likely will put him in the rankings.

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Speaker 2: And is that a that a bad dou Jack fight

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could be a fight, so that that could be a

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fight that we could maybe be looking at. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: When you put a guy in the rankings, you're now

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eligible to fight for their belts. Bad due Jack is

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but one title holder. And by the way, no offense

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a bad Dude Jack maybe an older fighter. He'd fucking

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murder Jake Paul, like in cold blood in my opinions. Okay, okay,

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so whatever. But the point is, you know, could he

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get a shot. Yeah, he could get a shot, and

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there'll be a lot of people that will be interested

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to watch that fight. And uh some people will do

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it because I want to see Jake winning and and

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pull a great story of coming from uh no experience

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and being a YouTuber and a Disney Channel start to

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becoming a boxing world champion. Others will wish that he

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gets knocked the fuck out, which is a lot of

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people will be on that side of the thing. And

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as far as Jake is concerned, it's like a lot

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of fighters who have some fans that love them and

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others that hate them. As long as it's like Floyd

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Mayweather says, root for me, root against me, Just pay

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the you know, buy the paper, view.

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Speaker 2: All right, so they they are ready to fight. This

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is the first mention that we will have that I

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one Eastern time on Friday, ten Pacific time for me,

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right after breakfast time for me out here on the

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West Coast in Anaheim, California, and we'll talk more specifically

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on how we think this fight will end. Interesting that

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it's going to be fought at cruiserweight, and the co

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feature is Gilberto Zerto, Ramirez and Uniel Dordocos for two

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of the cruiserweight championships. Zerto had both belts there. Dordikos,

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again is a Cuban born fighter, spoke only through an interpreter.

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and said, did you or did you not say that

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you would bet your house that Chavez Junior would beat

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Jake Paul and Zerto says, no, I'm not betting my house.

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Jake'said good idea next to him, So that was interesting.

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But there's another subplot Rayphiel. Are they angling Oscar de

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la Hoya is involved in the card? Are they angling

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for Jake Poll and Zerdo down the road? And how

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preposterous is that to you for me to even mention

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if that's the case.

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Speaker 3: I think that if Jake is gonna get a world

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title fight if he beats Chavez, the bigger fight is

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certainly against Zerdo Ramirez, then against bed du Jack, not

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because bed dud Jack's not a good fighter, but because

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he's just not as as let's say relevant here in

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this country as as bed due Jack is, and Zerdo

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has got two of the belts, not just one. He

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is a more known fighter, he's a younger fighter, and

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there's a lot of reasons why maybe that would happen.

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I mean, anything is possible. It's boxing. Crazy shit happens.

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But right now, uh, you know, he's got to contend

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with Chavas Junior. See what that's all about. And in

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terms of the Dordkoz fight, Ramirez has got a real

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guy in from him. Dorrikos maybe not the most well

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known fighter, but he's a two time cruiserweight champion. He

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is a devastating powerpunku. He has vast experience. He's a

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little bit older, he's like thirty nine years old, but

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he hasn't had you know, tremendous amount of wear and terry.

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A lot of those fights he's onon have been early knockouts.

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He's you know, he's got a real chance to win

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this fight. I mean, to me, this is this is

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the more interesting fight on this card, frankly than the

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main event. To me as a fan, this is an

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interesting matchup. Now, remember Dordikost he did take a step

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aside deal to allow for Zerto to have the unification

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fight against Chris Billum Smith and the winner of that

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fight had agreed that should they win, they would then

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defend against Dordikost. That is what Zerdo is doing. He's

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following through on that. I say that because there's been

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some people, particularly in the gi Opataia camp, that have

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made the claim erroneously that somehow Zerdo Ramirez is avoiding

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fighting gi Opataia. But he's just fulfilling his contractual promise

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to do this fight. And then maybe after this we'll

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see Zero against Opataia in a big, you know card

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in Saudi Arabia later in the year, and there'll be

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a lot of opportunities because maybe there's been discussions about

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possibly Paul, maybe maybe a Denavitez if he moves up

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and wait, I mean, but you know, right now, Dordikos

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is in front of him, and that's, like I said,

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that's a dangerous fight.

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Speaker 2: All right, So again we will preview that one a

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little more thoroughly as well. On the bet Us Boxing show,

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Zerto was mugging with the belts and the whole bid

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out in front we'll see. I mean, he's the world

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champion in the co feature fight here and as you

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mentioned though, Dorriekos has got a lot of power. He

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I mean, he looks like an older fighter Dordeko just

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being fifteen feet away from him. They listed him at

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thirty nine, so you pointed that out. One other quick

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thing and that is Floyd Schofield and Tevin Farmer, former

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world champion at one hundred and thirty pounds. Farmer recently

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in the two hotly contested fights with William Zapada, Scofield

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and up and comer out of Austin, Texas known as

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Kid Austin. They are on this card. Your thought on

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that real quick for the audience in the preview mode

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Speaker 3: This is the this is the fight where I think

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is for real or he's a fraud that's just to

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be plumped. Schofield in his most recent fight, that was

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back in November. He won the fight. You know, he

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got a unanimouscision against Renee Tells Gerone. He got knocked

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down in the eleventh round. Was in very shaky legs,

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looked like he might be on the verge of being stopped.

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to get to win. And I think most of the folks,

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if you're a diehard boxing fan to be listening to

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our podcasts, are watching this video. You know what happened

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not that many months ago when he was supposed to

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fight WBC Lightweight Championship Course Stevenson on a show in

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Saudi Arabia, and during the week of the fight he

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pulled out with an illness. A lot of people cried

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foul this and that. I'm not big on the conspiracies.

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Speaker 2: Let me say this, Let me say this. It came

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up at the press conference this afternoon where a media

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member said to him, will you just put it to

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rest on what happened and why you didn't fight? Were

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you sick? And he said, Floyd Schofield, I'm not going

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to talk about it. I'm only just going to talk

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about Tevin Farmer and looked at the media person next

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to me and said, well, so much for him being sick,

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because all you had to say is I got sick.

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I got sick and I couldn't fight, and he didn't

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say that this afternoon, So that's strange.

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Speaker 3: First, I don't think that means he wasn't sick. I

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just means that he's probably.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you say it in that moment. I just

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got sick. I'm back healthy now I'm ready for this fight,

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and everybody moves on. Now you keep other stuff out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you and I are not fighters.

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Speaker 3: Fighters when they're during the weekend, they're necessarily thinking rationally,

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you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We're saying we're logical, yes.

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Speaker 1: More so than boxers are.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, though, Tevin Farmer, which is a

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fight he's got in front of him, is a legitimate opponent.

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He's a very quality fighter. He may have lost three

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fights in a row, but if you have watched those fights,

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you know that those Yeah, maybe they were losses, but

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he could easily be three, you know, in those fights.

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At least have one win in those three fights.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He lost a real tight one to Raymond Maretaia, who

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was undefeated now has one of the belts. After a

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moment check retirement, he was elevated from interim status, and

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then he went real, real tough two battles against Williams

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of Peida. He knocked Williams of Paida down for the

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first time in his career. That was in there in

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their first fight, which was back in November of twenty

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twenty four. They had an immediate rematch, another really close fight.

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The first fight he lost by split decision. Easily could

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have won that fight. Second fight that was back in

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March of this year, he lost by a majority decision,

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another fight that could have gone either way. And that's

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that's a real guy. And now, of course the Paida

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is the one that's gonna be fighting Shakur upcoming, you know,

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in a few weeks. But the point I'm making here

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is that Floyd Schofield doesn't have even close to that

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kind of level of opponent on his record or that

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kind of experience. And Tevin Farmer has fought those guys,

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and there's other fighters he has fought or quality during

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his career besides us him, whether you know even a

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John O'Carroll for example, or a Jojo Diaz. I mean, ye,

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those are guys that are better than anybody that that

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you know, that Schofield ever fought. So you know, I

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think a lot of people think that Farmer's chin, his style,

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the fact that he's a southpaw, the fact that he

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you know, is a true pro in every sense of

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the word, has a really good chance to pull this upset.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that.

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Speaker 3: Farmer doesn't have, he doesn't have that that one punch equalizer.

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But you know, we saw we saw Schofield down against

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a guy that was not known for big punching power

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in your own so you never know. I think a

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lot of people think that if there's going to be

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an upset in one of these fights, this is the

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one that's going to be the upset.

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Speaker 2: And clearly Tevin Farmer, as you mentioned, was very confident

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on Thursday afternoon at the Honda Center in saying, I've

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been in with world class fighters over and over again.

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You haven't been in with anything at all, and I

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buy that that matters. Now his skills, youth is that

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on the side of Schofield. There's some intrigue in this

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fight and that fight will leave.

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Speaker 1: You know what, TJ.

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Speaker 3: When I think about Tevin Farmer, yeah, he is a

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little he's a bit older. Obviously, he's thirty four years old.

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But he is not a shot guy. Okay, yeah, you

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know ask William.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he is.

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Speaker 3: Still he's very capable of performing against top lightweights. In

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my opinion, all you have to is watch the way

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he's fought the last few fights, and uh, you know,

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obviously when you fight top guys, you're gonna some guys

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are gonna win, some guy's gonna lose. But you know,

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he's taken on those fights and he has been a

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little bit unlucky. I feel like he, at the very

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least he should have one of those three wins.

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Speaker 2: He could have gotten. He could have gotten that first

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decision with the not guy. He lost a split decision

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by one point on one card. Uh, and so we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, the one that was the clearest was the one

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where he lost to Mauritia. It was close, but I

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felt like Maurthia was definitely the winner. It's the two

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Zipeeda fights where you can make the really strong argument

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that he won those fights. And going into those fights,

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most people, I think held Zepeida to a higher level

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than Murtias. So those were you know, if you if

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there's such a thing as a moral victory in boxing, uh,

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that was it. Because those defeats I believe elevated Farmer

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even though we already was a very respected figure based

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on his track record of not ducking guys and having

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been a world champion, all that kind of thing. So

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bottom line is Floyd Schofield this is gonna go a

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long way and how he performs for us deciding basically,

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is he for real? Can he really move on to

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bigger and better things and become a significant player in

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this weight class or even higher if he moves up,

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or is he just gonna be known as a guy

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that had a lot of potential then maybe didn't get

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to that potential.

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Speaker 1: Didn't reach that potential.

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Speaker 2: Very good. We're gonna hustle on to the other couple

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of fights, get to and then we've got to get

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out of here here in a couple of moments. By

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the way, we got people commenting left and right here.

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Let me see if I can get to some of

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the comments. This evening, Joey watching this is live on

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the show, says good stuff, guys, Thank you Joey. Whoever

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lou dub boxing I think I have that right is

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sending out the boxing glove emoji, and I think a

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thumbs up Canada. Chris, who watches us all the time

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here and on the bet US Show, says, good evening, gentlemen,

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we thank all the savages for fining us again. If

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you're hearing us on Podcas, we were doing this show

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live right after the poll Chavez press conference in Anaheim

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for the fight card on Saturday night, doing it live

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exclusively first on YouTube, and you're hearing us now, So

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this is where the viewers are chiming in. Angel Is

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watching says it it looks like Chavez is indecent shape shape.

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At least he was in a tracksuit. Rayphael, I don't

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know what kind of shape he's in. Well, no more

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at the way in, I guess who knows.

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Speaker 3: On Friday, you actually probably won't know more at the

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Wayne because it's gonna be a fraudulent way in where

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they do a show a show way in and you

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won't really see what he looks like when he's down

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dehydrady all right.

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Speaker 2: Jim rud Junior thirty three says, Glenn, I came across

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you guys while I'm live at the gym. We love that.

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Julio says, hopefully a victory for Jake pol and Zerto

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doesn't lead to a confrontation. We talked about that. Not

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very realistic that Zerto would be the next fight. Dree

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our buddy is saying, I looked at the ticket prices

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for this fight, since it's in town. The nosebleeds are

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four hundred dollars there. I know they announced at the

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press conference they announced there are some limited tickets available

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through ticket Master. Normally, though these shows have been sold

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out for Jake Paul all over the control.

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Speaker 3: Again, I didn't look at them, but I'd be very surprised.

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Those bad seats in the in that arena were four

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hundred dollars. I don't think that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and they were saying today tickets still available

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through ticket Masters.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of tickets available for this far. So

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let's see.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if they move a lot of tickets or not. Again,

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I know from the show in Tampa that was done

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on a month's notice, the arena was full and they

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did not give away tickets. I had two different sources,

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including one at the arena, say this is an entire

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paid crowd, not a paper house. So maybe they're not

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gonna have eighteen thousand or seventeen thousand whatever the Honda

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Center seats. Maybe they're only gonna have fifteen, but they're

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not trying to paper the house. I don't believe in

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Anaheim Tomorrow Night, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: One of the problems that a lot of events have,

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this is not specific just to Jake, Paul and Chabz,

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is that if you're doing events in southern California and

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you're doing an event like this where a lot of

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your patrons are gonna be Mexicans or Mexican Americans, they

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don't want to be around where there's gonna be ice

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agents looking at I'm being serious. If you're a pro person,

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I'm not thinking your joke with your team, your group,

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your friends, your family to go to hang out at

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a boxing event. Why do you need to hassle being

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roughed up or stop by?

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Speaker 2: You never know ice could be around the corner. All right,

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let's get back to it here and let's talk Friday

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Night Deontay Wilder return. By the way, we plug our

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on the podcast Friday Night Wichitoss Kansas. Deontay Wilder returns

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against Tyrell Herndon Dan You interviewed him for the video

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portion here on YouTube and on the podcast for the

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audio portion. He is back on this Friday night. They

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can watch it without a subscription. Just pay for the

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one off if you want to see the former heavyweight

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champ who's got what forty knockouts in his career. Is

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he gonna get back on track for.

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Speaker 3: Forty three wins, has been stopped three times and his

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four losses, also has the infamous draw in the first

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fight against Tyson Fury. Look First of all, Deontay Wilder

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is obviously one of the more compelling figures in boxing,

473
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has been that for a long time because he does

474
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have the ability, no matter how bad the knight's going

475
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for him to erase he with one big right hand.

476
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And so the thing I took away from our interview,

477
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and and it's not a surprise, is that he has

478
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had an ailing shoulder in his right hand, in his

479
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,200
right arm for the last you know while. And so

480
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he says, you know, we'll see if it's you know,

481
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we'll see if it bears out on the on the

482
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night when he gets in the ring. But he said,

483
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for the first time in the few years his right

484
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shoulder is healthy and it feels good and it's back

485
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,759
and it's back in order. He you know, after the

486
00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:46,839
loss uh to to zang Jelas in his last fight

487
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where he got knocked out, he did undergo the procedure

488
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that needed to clean things up and to take care

489
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of whatever the problem was inside the shoulder, and he's

490
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had a long layoffs since then, and so it's been

491
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a year since he's fought, and so he says he

492
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is good to go, and uh, you know, take him

493
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at his word, will see how he performs. But the

494
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reality is he's thirty nine years old. He has lost

495
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,960
two fights in a row. And the thing that gives

496
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,759
me pause about losing two fights in a row is

497
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he lost them in very different fashion. The one against

498
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against jayg he got absolutely clobbered and knocked out in

499
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,480
a brutal knockout. The fight before that, which was only

500
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six months earlier, he actually was active in that period

501
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,880
of time where he had to fight with Joseph Parker.

502
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,480
Also the two fights were in Saudi Rega. He lost

503
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a decision, not because Joseph Parker was somehow a very

504
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:28,720
dynamic fighter in that fight, he just out boxing and

505
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:30,720
you know, did enough to win, where Deontay didn't do

506
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:32,640
really anything. You know, we talked about some of the

507
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recent fights that were setting compy Box records for fewest

508
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punches thrown. One other fight that's on that high up

509
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on that list is also this Joseph Parker Deontay Wilder fight.

510
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So that was the problem. Before that, he scored a

511
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:47,079
first round knockout against Robert Elenius, who was there to

512
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be knocked out, and before that he got knocked out

513
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two times in a row by Tyson Jury.

514
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Speaker 1: So on the one hand, he's.

515
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Speaker 2: Got four losses in the last five fights.

516
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Speaker 3: Well, but on the one hand, you say he's lost

517
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to the best guys out there at that time. Parker

518
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,279
zag who are all top level ivyweights. Obviously the one

519
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:07,200
win against a very low level opponent, and not very

520
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,240
low level, but a guy that was way beyond his

521
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best and Millennius. Now he's fighting Herndon and nobody's making

522
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,920
this out to be like, oh, he's going to be back.

523
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This is a big time test. Even Deontay admits, like,

524
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this is the opportunity to see where I am, how

525
00:24:20,839 --> 00:24:23,240
I feel. He called it a tune up, which is

526
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what it is, and they have the expectation that if

527
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he is healthy and he wins and presumably by a

528
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right handed knockout against an opponent who's been stopped four

529
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times in his five losses, including by guys who are

530
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not at Deontay Wilder's level, like, for example, even though

531
00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:42,559
Tyrrell Herndon has won three fights in a row, they've

532
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been against much lesser guys. And if you go back

533
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:46,640
to fight before that when he got knocked out, he

534
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,599
got drilled by the prospect Richard Torres. So that's the

535
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kind of level where he's at. So Deontay understands, like

536
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,039
what his purpose in this fight is, it's to win

537
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,640
and move on. He hopes to eventually, you know, fight

538
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for a title again. He also knows that this can

539
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,640
mean that if he gets to win and he looks okay,

540
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,920
there's no injuries, he can pave the way maybe the

541
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:09,599
end of this year to do the fight with Anthony Joshua,

542
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,799
who was also coming off a devastating knockout loss in Dubois,

543
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,400
who says he's gonna fight again, who has been rebuffed

544
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,559
by Tyson Fury, and the next biggest fight that Anthony

545
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,240
Joshua could have would be to put back together to

546
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fight with Deontey, because remember TJ. Before the Joe Parker fight,

547
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they had finally, after years and years and years, had

548
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finally signed to fight each other. But it was contingent

549
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on them winning on that night, and so Deontay went

550
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out there and got beat by Parker.

551
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Speaker 1: You know.

552
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Speaker 3: Obviously Joshua did his job by defeating Otto Wellen in

553
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,240
their fight, and even then, had it happen, the fight

554
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,279
was already a few years beyond when it should have happened.

555
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,319
It just happened five six years ago when it would

556
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,680
have been for undisputed. They were both undefeated, It was

557
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,519
the hottest fight in the division. It was America versus England.

558
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,799
It was just the biggest thing in the world. But

559
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:59,519
the reality is this, people, for whatever reason, still have

560
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,680
an in to see those two guys clash. They are

561
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:06,920
well known heavyweights with big fan followings, with different kinds

562
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,160
of personalities, and even though it's never gonna be what

563
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,599
it should have been, people still want for the sake

564
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,720
of the era, for the sake of the record book,

565
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,599
to see who was the better man, at least on

566
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,359
that night, to finally see them fight and they're both

567
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,480
so up and down, and they both obviously are diminished.

568
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,839
Speaker 2: They've both been knocked out and knocked out, so I

569
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,720
don't know, I don't know what's there. And Joshua was

570
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,359
hurt too. Joshua's got an elbow injury, so state when

571
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,000
not saying when.

572
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: He comes back off the injury backs at the end

573
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of the end of the end of the you know,

574
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end of this year.

575
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:36,759
Speaker 1: So it'll it'll.

576
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: You just got to put it in his proper box.

577
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,920
If they fight. Cool, but it's not for the undisputed championship.

578
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000
It's not even you know, two guys that I think

579
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:45,759
you might not even rank either guy in the top

580
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,000
ten anymore for that matter. But people still want to

581
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,880
see it, and so give the people what they want.

582
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: All right again, The Fight We Plug Again is on

583
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,880
PPV dot com. Our video audience is seeing it. Stream

584
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,480
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585
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,960
if you want to see the Bronze Bomber. And this

586
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:04,039
is Friday Night as we do this, including with the podcast.

587
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Friday Night is the Wilder Herndon Battle in Wichita, Kansas. Dan,

588
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let's quickly move to Christian Mabilly, who is also in

589
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:17,200
Action on Friday night in Quebec. The super middleweight contender,

590
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,599
the veteran opponent Suleski, who we've seen before. Tell me,

591
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,839
give me, give me like a quick ninety second synopsis,

592
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200
real quick on Mabilly's return on top rank and what

593
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ESPN Plus go ahead.

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually an Ia the Tiger card there the

595
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,119
co promoter along with top rank of Thembilly. So he's

596
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,559
going to be fighting in the Videotron Center in Quebec City.

597
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,920
He's a French fighter but based out of Montreal, so

598
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680
he'll be the big obviously huge fan favorite. And look,

599
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,400
he is the number one contender in the WBC. They're

600
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,640
not going to order the fight with Canelo Alvarez. He's

601
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,720
got big, huge business for everybody with this Terrence Crawford fight,

602
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,160
even before that when he was fighting once again for

603
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,720
undisputed when he faced the Skull back a couple of

604
00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,720
months ago. So and Billy's getting the next best thing

605
00:27:57,799 --> 00:27:59,880
that he can achieve right now, which is the opportunity

606
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,599
to fight for the interim belt against Seleski. Remember he

607
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480
was originally ordered to fight Diego Pacheco for the interim title.

608
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,400
That would have been a big time fight. Pachecko didn't

609
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,640
want any part of Mambilly, and he's taking, in my opinion,

610
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,960
a lesser fight against Trevor McCombe, which will still be

611
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,960
an entertaining and fun fight, but it's not Mabilly. So

612
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,960
that fight's taking place on the BAM Rodriguez undercard coming

613
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,759
up July nineteenth. But so in the meantime, Celeski is

614
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:23,920
still high in the ratings and he got this opportunity.

615
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,640
He's only lost three times. Celeski is a very solid

616
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,319
veteran fighter, only been stopped one time that was against Pacheco,

617
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,200
but he gave good fights to guys like Demetris Andre

618
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,519
in a world title fight Danny Jacobson a title eliminated

619
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:40,119
those rats at the middleweight division. But look, Mabilly is

620
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,559
a big puncher. He did go the distance in his

621
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920
last fight with Sergey devron Chenko, but devin Chenko's got

622
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,519
an iron chin, and so I think this actually will

623
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be a fun fight.

624
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Speaker 1: This will be a pretty good battle. Two two tough dudes.

625
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: One guy is certainly on the ascent in terms of Mbilly,

626
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:58,440
another guy that's the battle tested veteran in Seleski. And

627
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:01,440
one thing tip of the hatles talk about the road

628
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,839
where all of his losses that he's had in his career,

629
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,039
all all of these defeats have taken place in his

630
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,960
opponent's hometown, and now he's basically going to Billie's hometown.

631
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Maybe a few miles away, but it's still Canada, it's

632
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,960
still you know, his his fan base. So that should

633
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,039
be it should be an interesting, fun little fight, I think,

634
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,720
and the winner will have the interim title, and we'll

635
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,720
put the winner in a good position to get bigger

636
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,599
person and eventually either be ordered to fight the Canelo

637
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,799
Crawford winner for the undisputed title or at least for

638
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:32,440
the WBC belt, or if that fighter decides to retire

639
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
or vacate or what have you, he'll be elevated. So he's,

640
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,079
you know, the winner, this fight's going to be in

641
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:37,680
a great position.

642
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,279
Speaker 2: Good stuff on that. And again, we've got to get

643
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:43,039
out of here. In a moment or two, we've been

644
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We've been a little bit with.

645
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Speaker 1: The we don't have to get out here. You got

646
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:46,039
to get out of here.

647
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: You I have got to get out of here because

648
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,400
I have dinner with the wife and the seventeen year

649
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,559
old twins coming up here, so I've got to scoot

650
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:56,440
a long Pacific time. But we got a couple of

651
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,759
other news items before we depart on the live show,

652
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:01,000
and again the podcast audience hearing us on the normal

653
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,359
timeline here, but we're doing this live on YouTube. What's

654
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the latest with w BO Welterway champion Brian Norman and

655
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,519
his next fight? Give me the quick deats.

656
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:12,039
Speaker 3: Well, nothing is done yet, but he obviously is coming

657
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:15,160
off the knockout against Sasaki that was you know, last week,

658
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:20,279
and there's been a discussion between with the Swiss Saudi Arabia,

659
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,920
you know Sela looking to do a match you know

660
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,160
Turkey Alshk that would potentially be Brian Norman to defend

661
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,160
the title against Devin Haney this fall in Riann Saudi

662
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,240
Arabia where they're planning some big cards still before the

663
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,440
end of this year. There's gonna be obviously the third

664
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fight between Better bn B Ball. They're going to be

665
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,559
planning a no in a way fight should he win

666
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,640
his upcoming bout, So there'll be some activity going on

667
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,000
over there at the end of this year, and that's

668
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:45,880
one of the fights that they are discussing. Devin Haney

669
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,759
has been looking for a name. I mean he was.

670
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He was originally supposed to fight Ryan Garcia. He lost

671
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,279
against Romero back on the Times Square card in May.

672
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Haini won against Cozy Ramirez in a god awful fight,

673
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but he still got to win. Then there was the

674
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prop of the fight between Hani and Tiafima Lopez. Haney's

675
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,480
team agreed, they signed, they were ready to go. Hani

676
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,000
was excited about that fight. Lopez agreed and then decided

677
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not to sign, and so that fight went by the way.

678
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Speaker 1: So he lost that on.

679
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Speaker 3: Garcia lost out on Tiafimo, and now Brian Norman is

680
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,359
in the picture, and if they didn't wrapped up Well.

681
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,359
Speaker 2: Says it more likely that Haney wants to be a

682
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,759
welterweight and fight for a welterweight title as opposed to

683
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,079
moving back down to one forty and fight for a title.

684
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:25,839
What are you hearing?

685
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: Well, when he was fighting, when he was doing the

686
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,759
deal with Tiafimo Lopez, it was going to be in

687
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the welterweight division, so it wasn't him moving back down.

688
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,680
You figure, if you're never going to go down to

689
00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:35,880
the to the next way class below, you do it

690
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200
for the world title. So No, Devin Haney's now a welterweight.

691
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,039
He fought the fight against Ramirez at one hundred and

692
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,519
forty four. The fight with Tiafima was contemplated and agreed

693
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,759
to it one forty seven, and so I don't know

694
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,359
if they've come up with an exact weight for this,

695
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920
but I'm assuming it would be also one forty seven

696
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,440
to challenge Brian Norman for the WBO title. And look,

697
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,839
fights make fights, and when you're Norman and you look

698
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,839
so great like he's done in his last few fights,

699
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,640
suddenly you're in the pick sure for guys that are

700
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,359
looking for titles.

701
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Sign me up, and hey, let's do it.

702
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,759
Speaker 2: Sign me up. Hey, you mentioned Naoya in a way

703
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:13,119
and his December opponent. Yeah, what have we learned about that?

704
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,720
Real quick?

705
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,039
Speaker 3: For the audience here, Well, there's a lot that has

706
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:18,880
to happen first, Okay, First of all, you have in

707
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,680
a way, he's got business to attend to September fourteenth

708
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in Japan. He's taken on mj Acmadalia. That is the

709
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long overtoo mandatory, also the interim title of the WBA,

710
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and so that fight is finally made and set to go.

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He won his fight against Cardenas an MJ one his

712
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tune up fights.

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Speaker 1: So that fight's good.

714
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Speaker 3: Now after that fight's over with, they're planning to do

715
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,319
a fight his fourth fight of this calendar year, to

716
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be nice and busy, but to do so in Saudi Arabia.

717
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He has a sponsorship deal with with read Season, and

718
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even though it wasn't officially that you had a fight

719
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in Saudi Arabia as part of that, they're interested to

720
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do that fight, to bring him to Saudi Arabia to

721
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do the match, and so they're looking to have him

722
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do with the fight with Picasso the undefeated next again,

723
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who does have or had a fight that he that

724
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he took care of. I think he has one other

725
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,359
fight coming up also that will take place, you know,

726
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this summer. But if they're if they both are victorious

727
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when they do those bouts, that's the fight that's gonna happen.

728
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I talked to Picasso's uh, you know, his new advisor,

729
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Sean Gibbons, who's worked with a ton of champions, works

730
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,119
with Manny Packya, has worked with lots of top guys.

731
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Are ready to go, and so if everybody comes out

732
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,039
of those fights healthy, you'll be seeing u Picasso challenge

733
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for that title end of this year. I think the

734
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date was December twenty seventh from what Turkey al Sheik

735
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was saying, and uh, that'll just be another, uh, another

736
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really interesting factor because you have in a way one

737
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,680
of the top pound for pound fighters in boxing doing

738
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what what so many great fighters of the past did,

739
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which is fight all the time. I mean, you can't

740
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000
name an elite fighter that's had four fights in one

741
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calendar year and a long time.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. We love it within activity with activity,

743
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and we hate it with inactivity. And the monster has

744
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,559
been as active as anybody really crazily.

745
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Speaker 1: We love it.

746
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Speaker 2: And he's looking to move up to featherweight and he's

747
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going to try to be undisputed probably there over the

748
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course of.

749
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Speaker 3: The next and it's one thing when you're active. A

750
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:10,000
lot of times guys might take like the softer touch

751
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:11,960
type fights, but he's not doing that.

752
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.

753
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Speaker 3: The fight in January was supposed was supposed to be

754
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,440
or it turned out to be against like the kind

755
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,039
of a soft touch because it was a late replacement,

756
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,199
but one was a mandatory against Sam Goodman, who was

757
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,639
an undefeated fighter from Australia, not that he would have

758
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,360
been the favorite, but that would have been a very

759
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,159
reasonable opponent. Then he obviously fought you know, the one

760
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,159
like and it wasn't.

761
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,039
Speaker 2: Beating Louise Nary. He beat Louise Narry, a former champion,

762
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,000
but that wasn't That wasn't this year though, well correct,

763
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,679
not this year, but recently.

764
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Speaker 3: In the calendar year of this year, so you know,

765
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,760
but I mean, Achmadalia of obviously is not a soft

766
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,280
touch in any way, shape or form. So you know,

767
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480
he's taken on real guys as he's moving along, and

768
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,079
even even the Cardenas fight, it may not have been

769
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:49,440
on paper the most competitive fight, but it shut turned

770
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,079
out to be that way.

771
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:53,119
Speaker 2: I mean, Cardanius knocked him down in the first round

772
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,760
and buckled him another time later on in the Fight

773
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,039
for the.

774
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: Monster, I talked about the Pacasta real quick in terms

775
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,440
of his interim fight. He is scared schedule with the

776
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,079
fight one of the preliminary doubts coming up on Prime

777
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,760
video with Manny Pacio fights. He's taken on another fighter

778
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,719
from Japan, so he's got to get through that fight.

779
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,559
That's what I was trying to think of, and obviously

780
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,760
MJ is taken on in a way in September. By September,

781
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,039
if they're both out of those fights with victories and

782
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,199
without injuries, that's what's going to be at the end

783
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,960
of the year. But again, people make clans and God laughs.

784
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,079
Speaker 2: You know this has been the case for like the

785
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,440
last two months, by the way, with everything set up

786
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,960
for a fighter to win at home, home country, whatever hometown,

787
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,119
and they lose. Listen, good stuff here live on the

788
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,880
YouTube again for the pod audience. Thank you for bearing

789
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,480
with us. We did it live earlier in the evening

790
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:44,639
Eastern time, late afternoon Pacific time. We look forward to

791
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,239
being back on the bet US show to handicap some

792
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,440
more the Jake Paul Chavez card including Zerdo Ramirez and

793
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,800
Dirdakos and the co feature the Tevin Farmer Floyd Schofield fight.

794
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000
That'll be one Eastern time, ten Pacific time for me

795
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,440
live on the bet US platforms, their YouTube tube, their

796
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,840
social media outlets, and then whatever happens out here in Anaheim.

797
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,039
Will you want to go live again? Shall we go?

798
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,159
I think we could go live again on Saturday night

799
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:11,159
late Let's see if we can make that happen. On

800
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:15,679
the YouTube page as well. Dan Rayfaield, thank you. As always,

801
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,679
we thank the audience for finding us, even if you

802
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
found us on demand later on we did it live

803
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:20,519
on I'm.

804
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 3: A little I'm a little disappointed. And one thing about this,

805
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,280
which is which is I expected that you spend most

806
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,599
of your last couple of days at Disneyland, that you'd

807
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:28,480
be wearing the Mickey Years.

808
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: You got half the years, although on social media the

809
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,320
wife and the twins half the ears on it. Rayfield's

810
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,079
texting me, going, where are your ears?

811
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: Well?

812
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,119
Speaker 3: Tell them what happened. So you texted me a picture

813
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,960
this morning as we were like trying to plan out

814
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,599
what was going to go on at the show. And

815
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,320
the picture was you and your lovely family, your wife

816
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,440
and your daughters, and if I'm not mistaken, your maybe

817
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,920
with your wife and one of your daughters had the

818
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,880
Mickey ears. And you're like, we're here at Disneyland, and

819
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,159
I think, I wrote back, I don't care unless the

820
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:55,840
picture has.

821
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: You and nickeyears. So that's right, I better get my

822
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,039
picture of Mickeyear's all right.

823
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: We'll stand by for that. Listen good stuff here on

824
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,880
YouTube again, Like and subscribe and help us out on

825
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,880
this YouTube page where we did it exclusively for the

826
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,920
pod audience. Do the same. Give us a five star

827
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,920
review if you enjoyed the pod Friday night into Thursday

828
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,320
night into Friday. As we head to the weekend, Dan Raypael,

829
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,679
I'll see you on the bet Us Show coming Friday

830
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,880
afternoon Eastern Time, late Friday morning here in Anaheim, I'll

831
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,760
see you for that to handicap and predict a little

832
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,639
more on office fights. Thank you, my friends.

833
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,639
Speaker 1: All right, go get the mid year's bro here you go.

834
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Speaker 2: We thank you guys for watching as well and for

835
00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,440
listing here to the Big Fight weekend preview show and

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podcast

