Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big
Fight Weekend.
Speaker 2: Now here is your host, DJ Leaves. All right, folks,
welcome in to a live edition of The Big Fight
week in Preview on YouTube exclusively live. Now, we should
say that if you're on the podcast, you're hearing it
as it normally is overnight into Friday. But we did
this live. We did it live on Thursday evening. I
am merely the somewhat capable host TJ Reeves all the
way out of the left coast. For me, I'm on
the west coast of Florida typically, but now I'm on
the way left coast in Anaheim, California. I'm out here,
full disclosure, with my family. My twins are turning seventeen
years old, and I'm also partaking in whatever this is
going to be with the Jake Paul, Julio Sesar Chavez
Junior pay per view. I was at the Thursday press
conference just a little while ago. That's why we're live.
It's also good to be with our insider, Big Dan Rayfael.
Good to be back with you. You're shaking your head.
I offered to bring you one of those Julio Sesar
Chavez shirts where he says this is my daddy and
that's my new daddy, with Jake Paul on the shirt
with the red, white and green of the Mexican flag.
You told me you're good on that for the Rayfield collection.
Good to be with you as we get ready to
preview the weekend and we're doing it live for the
YouTube audience right now.
Speaker 3: Tij I'm good with any boxing wearables. I've got a
thousand shirts. My wife has all of them, she likes
to wear them. I couldn't care less.
Speaker 2: I think it was something to do. It's probably a
limited edition shirt first of all that Shaves had. Well,
what happened is full disclosure again. I'm out here. I
got to the press conference in the Honda Center in
Anaheim in time to get in for everything to get underway,
and Jake Paul came over in the introductions and he
put a handwritten sign in front of Chavez's name. Placard
said this guy's gonna get knocked the f out Saturday night.
And when he did that, Chavez Junior called for the
shirt and then held the shirt up that said this
is my whole you know, my daddy and here's my
new daddy with a character of Jake Paul. So they
were trying to hype the fight earlier today. All right,
so we're gonna get into that. We should mention, just
by mention of the previews, Deontay Wilder is back, the
former WBC heavyweight champion on Friday night. We're gonna talk
about that fight. You interviewed Wilder. They can find it
on this YouTube feed under the videos you entered him.
You can watch the video interview with Dan. You can
hear it on the podcast feed as well. Hear it
or see it in the preview mode. You're gonna preview
it a little more with us and also Christian Mobility
up and coming undefeated super middleweight contender also in action
on Friday night in Quebec, Canada. So we're gonna preview
all of that on the pod, Big Dan. But with
respect to Paul and Chavez, I know you've been shaking
your head and rolling your eyes. What are we gonna
see here? Shop as a blown up middleweight or super
middleweight at this point? Do you have as low an
expectation as I sense about this man? Evan, are you
somewhat intrigued by this?
Speaker 1: On Saturday night?
Speaker 3: I'm not intrigued at all, to be quite honest. And
you know, we've done a million conversations throughout Jake Paul's
evolving career. I have nothing but respect for Jake's hustle.
You know, he takes the biggest fights he can find.
He makes a ton of money. There's a lot of
people that seem to enjoy the events. He has taken
some sort of lesser fights to sort of get in
the reps, to try to you know, polish the resume,
or not even the resume, I should say, just his
ability to get experience, and they turn out the you know,
kind of quick knockouts and everything. You know, I don't
blame him for doing the fight, but one must not
forget that in terms of this particular about I'm very
cynical on this one, and it's I don't blame Jake
Paul for it. I mean, this was really his third choice.
Remember if you go back, they were making the Tank
Davis exhibition, and then Tank had the draw against Lemon
Roach and they're headed to a rematch later in the summer.
So okay, that went out the window. You know, then
there was the prospect of maybe he would be able
to do a Canelo Alvarez fight, right, and they had
a deal that was not signed, but by and large
it was agreed to and don't and they were getting
things tidied up, and then Turkey al Chic at the
last moment made Canelo an offer as he said he
couldn't refuse. And now he's on board doing the fight
with Terrence Crawford. He had done the skull fight and
he has other fights on that contract going forward. So
now Jake Paul struck out with Roach, truck out with Canelo,
and so who's next. Remember Chavez Junior, who's been basically
an inactive fighter four years. When he did have a
fight in between his rehab stints, he was on one
of Jake's undercards, and that was always sort of, you know,
proposed as okay, maybe we'll do that match someday. Well,
when it got down to the third option that they
went on up with, and I mean again, I'll say
it for the tenth time opposed. I got nothing against
Jake Paul. You know, if people are interested in the fight,
so be it. But to me with anything to do
with Julio Sezar Chavez Junior not senior, you know, you
got to be a sucker to be buying or thinking
that he's gonna put on a great performance because he
just hasn't had. And that's not even to say he
can't win the fight, because he is, by definition of
his career, way more experienced against real fighters than Jake
paul Is. He frankly should win, even even being diminished.
But he's also fighting literally like forty pounds heavier than
where he was at his best. Let's generously say thirty
two pounds heavier, because maybe you could say it was
at super middleweight. But he hasn't fought on a regular
schedule for a long time. He hasn't beaten a good
fighter since twenty twelve, basically, which was when he beat
Andy Lee. That was way back when he was still
holding the WBC's middleweight title. He's lost to like Anderson Silva,
who was an m m A fighter, you know, uh
barely beat ERIAH Hall, who was an m m A fighter.
Speaker 2: That was I think, uh that was the undercard, that
was the undercard last June in Tampa.
Speaker 1: I just got no faith in Julio A. Trumps. He's
a quitter.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's you know, he is not the Mexican
warrior that his father was. That a lot of the
great Mexicans have been because when the when the tough
has got to him, you know, he gets going and
he does and he just quits.
Speaker 1: Multiple times.
Speaker 3: He did it, you know, and not only it's one
thing if you retire, if you're beat up. I mean,
I'm not one to say, you know, you got to
take more punishment. But he's done in a very unmanly
like way. Look at the Daniel Jacobs fight, the way
that fight ended. That's one example. So I'm again, I'm
cool with the Jake.
Speaker 1: Side of things. I just have zero personal interest in
seeing chava is.
Speaker 2: Now this is interesting. You see my photo here, Raphael,
I'm efforting to give some some insight and even some
artif facts that I was there in the Honda Center
earlier on Thursday afternoon. Again, the podcast audience can't see
the photo, but for the live audience on YouTube exclusively
with us, I was there. I can tell you that
Chavez Junior seemed a whole lot more alert and interested
than he did in the pre fight press conference a
year ago in Tampa. But he didn't seem interested at all,
And why wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Think favors when you're there doing your job and trying to.
Speaker 2: Build, yeah, and trying to and trying to figure it
all out, you know. And and Jake Paul was asked, here,
do you believe that if you win this fight, that
you legitimately could be in a title fight in the
next fight or the next couple of fights, and what
of course he's gonna say yes, And he said, yes,
I don't know that you and I believe that. I
don't know that most intelligent, insightful boxing fans believe that
we hear rumors. You would be better to speak to
this than.
Speaker 1: Right. He is a business.
Speaker 3: If he beats Julio Chavez Junior, the WBA and the WBC,
he most likely will put him in the rankings.
Speaker 2: And is that a that a bad dou Jack fight
could be a fight, so that that could be a
fight that we could maybe be looking at. I don't know.
Speaker 3: When you put a guy in the rankings, you're now
eligible to fight for their belts. Bad due Jack is
but one title holder. And by the way, no offense
a bad Dude Jack maybe an older fighter. He'd fucking
murder Jake Paul, like in cold blood in my opinions. Okay, okay,
so whatever. But the point is, you know, could he
get a shot. Yeah, he could get a shot, and
there'll be a lot of people that will be interested
to watch that fight. And uh some people will do
it because I want to see Jake winning and and
pull a great story of coming from uh no experience
and being a YouTuber and a Disney Channel start to
becoming a boxing world champion. Others will wish that he
gets knocked the fuck out, which is a lot of
people will be on that side of the thing. And
as far as Jake is concerned, it's like a lot
of fighters who have some fans that love them and
others that hate them. As long as it's like Floyd
Mayweather says, root for me, root against me, Just pay
the you know, buy the paper, view.
Speaker 2: All right, so they they are ready to fight. This
is the first mention that we will have that I
also out here at Anaheim, we're going to do the
bet US Preview and Prediction show on their platforms at
one Eastern time on Friday, ten Pacific time for me,
right after breakfast time for me out here on the
West Coast in Anaheim, California, and we'll talk more specifically
on how we think this fight will end. Interesting that
it's going to be fought at cruiserweight, and the co
feature is Gilberto Zerto, Ramirez and Uniel Dordocos for two
of the cruiserweight championships. Zerto had both belts there. Dordikos,
again is a Cuban born fighter, spoke only through an interpreter.
There was a light moment where Todd Grisham, the MC,
actually put it to Zerto during the back and forth
and said, did you or did you not say that
you would bet your house that Chavez Junior would beat
Jake Paul and Zerto says, no, I'm not betting my house.
Jake'said good idea next to him, So that was interesting.
But there's another subplot Rayphiel. Are they angling Oscar de
la Hoya is involved in the card? Are they angling
for Jake Poll and Zerdo down the road? And how
preposterous is that to you for me to even mention
if that's the case.
Speaker 3: I think that if Jake is gonna get a world
title fight if he beats Chavez, the bigger fight is
certainly against Zerdo Ramirez, then against bed du Jack, not
because bed dud Jack's not a good fighter, but because
he's just not as as let's say relevant here in
this country as as bed due Jack is, and Zerdo
has got two of the belts, not just one. He
is a more known fighter, he's a younger fighter, and
there's a lot of reasons why maybe that would happen.
I mean, anything is possible. It's boxing. Crazy shit happens.
But right now, uh, you know, he's got to contend
with Chavas Junior. See what that's all about. And in
terms of the Dordkoz fight, Ramirez has got a real
guy in from him. Dorrikos maybe not the most well
known fighter, but he's a two time cruiserweight champion. He
is a devastating powerpunku. He has vast experience. He's a
little bit older, he's like thirty nine years old, but
he hasn't had you know, tremendous amount of wear and terry.
A lot of those fights he's onon have been early knockouts.
He's you know, he's got a real chance to win
this fight. I mean, to me, this is this is
the more interesting fight on this card, frankly than the
main event. To me as a fan, this is an
interesting matchup. Now, remember Dordikost he did take a step
aside deal to allow for Zerto to have the unification
fight against Chris Billum Smith and the winner of that
fight had agreed that should they win, they would then
defend against Dordikost. That is what Zerdo is doing. He's
following through on that. I say that because there's been
some people, particularly in the gi Opataia camp, that have
made the claim erroneously that somehow Zerdo Ramirez is avoiding
fighting gi Opataia. But he's just fulfilling his contractual promise
to do this fight. And then maybe after this we'll
see Zero against Opataia in a big, you know card
in Saudi Arabia later in the year, and there'll be
a lot of opportunities because maybe there's been discussions about
possibly Paul, maybe maybe a Denavitez if he moves up
and wait, I mean, but you know, right now, Dordikos
is in front of him, and that's, like I said,
that's a dangerous fight.
Speaker 2: All right, So again we will preview that one a
little more thoroughly as well. On the bet Us Boxing show,
Zerto was mugging with the belts and the whole bid
out in front we'll see. I mean, he's the world
champion in the co feature fight here and as you
mentioned though, Dorriekos has got a lot of power. He
I mean, he looks like an older fighter Dordeko just
being fifteen feet away from him. They listed him at
thirty nine, so you pointed that out. One other quick
thing and that is Floyd Schofield and Tevin Farmer, former
world champion at one hundred and thirty pounds. Farmer recently
in the two hotly contested fights with William Zapada, Scofield
and up and comer out of Austin, Texas known as
Kid Austin. They are on this card. Your thought on
that real quick for the audience in the preview mode
on this live show.
Speaker 3: This is the this is the fight where I think
a lot of people will find out if Floyd Schofield
is for real or he's a fraud that's just to
be plumped. Schofield in his most recent fight, that was
back in November. He won the fight. You know, he
got a unanimouscision against Renee Tells Gerone. He got knocked
down in the eleventh round. Was in very shaky legs,
looked like he might be on the verge of being stopped.
To his credit, he survived the crisis and was able
to get to win. And I think most of the folks,
if you're a diehard boxing fan to be listening to
our podcasts, are watching this video. You know what happened
not that many months ago when he was supposed to
fight WBC Lightweight Championship Course Stevenson on a show in
Saudi Arabia, and during the week of the fight he
pulled out with an illness. A lot of people cried
foul this and that. I'm not big on the conspiracies.
You know, if a guy was sick, a guy is sick.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, Let me say this. It came
up at the press conference this afternoon where a media
member said to him, will you just put it to
rest on what happened and why you didn't fight? Were
you sick? And he said, Floyd Schofield, I'm not going
to talk about it. I'm only just going to talk
about Tevin Farmer and looked at the media person next
to me and said, well, so much for him being sick,
because all you had to say is I got sick.
I got sick and I couldn't fight, and he didn't
say that this afternoon, So that's strange.
Speaker 3: First, I don't think that means he wasn't sick. I
just means that he's probably.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you say it in that moment. I just
got sick. I'm back healthy now I'm ready for this fight,
and everybody moves on. Now you keep other stuff out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you and I are not fighters.
Speaker 3: Fighters when they're during the weekend, they're necessarily thinking rationally,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We're saying we're logical, yes.
Speaker 1: More so than boxers are.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, though, Tevin Farmer, which is a
fight he's got in front of him, is a legitimate opponent.
He's a very quality fighter. He may have lost three
fights in a row, but if you have watched those fights,
you know that those Yeah, maybe they were losses, but
he could easily be three, you know, in those fights.
At least have one win in those three fights.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: He lost a real tight one to Raymond Maretaia, who
was undefeated now has one of the belts. After a
moment check retirement, he was elevated from interim status, and
then he went real, real tough two battles against Williams
of Peida. He knocked Williams of Paida down for the
first time in his career. That was in there in
their first fight, which was back in November of twenty
twenty four. They had an immediate rematch, another really close fight.
The first fight he lost by split decision. Easily could
have won that fight. Second fight that was back in
March of this year, he lost by a majority decision,
another fight that could have gone either way. And that's
that's a real guy. And now, of course the Paida
is the one that's gonna be fighting Shakur upcoming, you know,
in a few weeks. But the point I'm making here
is that Floyd Schofield doesn't have even close to that
kind of level of opponent on his record or that
kind of experience. And Tevin Farmer has fought those guys,
and there's other fighters he has fought or quality during
his career besides us him, whether you know even a
John O'Carroll for example, or a Jojo Diaz. I mean, ye,
those are guys that are better than anybody that that
you know, that Schofield ever fought. So you know, I
think a lot of people think that Farmer's chin, his style,
the fact that he's a southpaw, the fact that he
you know, is a true pro in every sense of
the word, has a really good chance to pull this upset.
Speaker 1: The one thing that.
Speaker 3: Farmer doesn't have, he doesn't have that that one punch equalizer.
But you know, we saw we saw Schofield down against
a guy that was not known for big punching power
in your own so you never know. I think a
lot of people think that if there's going to be
an upset in one of these fights, this is the
one that's going to be the upset.
Speaker 2: And clearly Tevin Farmer, as you mentioned, was very confident
on Thursday afternoon at the Honda Center in saying, I've
been in with world class fighters over and over again.
You haven't been in with anything at all, and I
buy that that matters. Now his skills, youth is that
on the side of Schofield. There's some intrigue in this
fight and that fight will leave.
Speaker 1: You know what, TJ.
Speaker 3: When I think about Tevin Farmer, yeah, he is a
little he's a bit older. Obviously, he's thirty four years old.
But he is not a shot guy. Okay, yeah, you
know ask William.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is.
Speaker 3: Still he's very capable of performing against top lightweights. In
my opinion, all you have to is watch the way
he's fought the last few fights, and uh, you know,
obviously when you fight top guys, you're gonna some guys
are gonna win, some guy's gonna lose. But you know,
he's taken on those fights and he has been a
little bit unlucky. I feel like he, at the very
least he should have one of those three wins.
Speaker 2: He could have gotten. He could have gotten that first
decision with the not guy. He lost a split decision
by one point on one card. Uh, and so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Frankly, the one that was the clearest was the one
where he lost to Mauritia. It was close, but I
felt like Maurthia was definitely the winner. It's the two
Zipeeda fights where you can make the really strong argument
that he won those fights. And going into those fights,
most people, I think held Zepeida to a higher level
than Murtias. So those were you know, if you if
there's such a thing as a moral victory in boxing, uh,
that was it. Because those defeats I believe elevated Farmer
even though we already was a very respected figure based
on his track record of not ducking guys and having
been a world champion, all that kind of thing. So
bottom line is Floyd Schofield this is gonna go a
long way and how he performs for us deciding basically,
is he for real? Can he really move on to
bigger and better things and become a significant player in
this weight class or even higher if he moves up,
or is he just gonna be known as a guy
that had a lot of potential then maybe didn't get
to that potential.
Speaker 1: Didn't reach that potential.
Speaker 2: Very good. We're gonna hustle on to the other couple
of fights, get to and then we've got to get
out of here here in a couple of moments. By
the way, we got people commenting left and right here.
Let me see if I can get to some of
the comments. This evening, Joey watching this is live on
the show, says good stuff, guys, Thank you Joey. Whoever
lou dub boxing I think I have that right is
sending out the boxing glove emoji, and I think a
thumbs up Canada. Chris, who watches us all the time
here and on the bet US Show, says, good evening, gentlemen,
we thank all the savages for fining us again. If
you're hearing us on Podcas, we were doing this show
live right after the poll Chavez press conference in Anaheim
for the fight card on Saturday night, doing it live
exclusively first on YouTube, and you're hearing us now, So
this is where the viewers are chiming in. Angel Is
watching says it it looks like Chavez is indecent shape shape.
At least he was in a tracksuit. Rayphael, I don't
know what kind of shape he's in. Well, no more
at the way in, I guess who knows.
Speaker 3: On Friday, you actually probably won't know more at the
Wayne because it's gonna be a fraudulent way in where
they do a show a show way in and you
won't really see what he looks like when he's down
dehydrady all right.
Speaker 2: Jim rud Junior thirty three says, Glenn, I came across
you guys while I'm live at the gym. We love that.
Julio says, hopefully a victory for Jake pol and Zerto
doesn't lead to a confrontation. We talked about that. Not
very realistic that Zerto would be the next fight. Dree
our buddy is saying, I looked at the ticket prices
for this fight, since it's in town. The nosebleeds are
four hundred dollars there. I know they announced at the
press conference they announced there are some limited tickets available
through ticket Master. Normally, though these shows have been sold
out for Jake Paul all over the control.
Speaker 3: Again, I didn't look at them, but I'd be very surprised.
Those bad seats in the in that arena were four
hundred dollars. I don't think that's accurate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and they were saying today tickets still available
through ticket Masters.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tickets available for this far. So
let's see.
Speaker 2: Let's see if they move a lot of tickets or not. Again,
I know from the show in Tampa that was done
on a month's notice, the arena was full and they
did not give away tickets. I had two different sources,
including one at the arena, say this is an entire
paid crowd, not a paper house. So maybe they're not
gonna have eighteen thousand or seventeen thousand whatever the Honda
Center seats. Maybe they're only gonna have fifteen, but they're
not trying to paper the house. I don't believe in
Anaheim Tomorrow Night, stay tuned.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: One of the problems that a lot of events have,
this is not specific just to Jake, Paul and Chabz,
is that if you're doing events in southern California and
you're doing an event like this where a lot of
your patrons are gonna be Mexicans or Mexican Americans, they
don't want to be around where there's gonna be ice
agents looking at I'm being serious. If you're a pro person,
I'm not thinking your joke with your team, your group,
your friends, your family to go to hang out at
a boxing event. Why do you need to hassle being
roughed up or stop by?
Speaker 2: You never know ice could be around the corner. All right,
let's get back to it here and let's talk Friday
Night Deontay Wilder return. By the way, we plug our
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on the podcast Friday Night Wichitoss Kansas. Deontay Wilder returns
against Tyrell Herndon Dan You interviewed him for the video
portion here on YouTube and on the podcast for the
audio portion. He is back on this Friday night. They
can watch it without a subscription. Just pay for the
one off if you want to see the former heavyweight
champ who's got what forty knockouts in his career. Is
he gonna get back on track for.
Speaker 3: Forty three wins, has been stopped three times and his
four losses, also has the infamous draw in the first
fight against Tyson Fury. Look First of all, Deontay Wilder
is obviously one of the more compelling figures in boxing,
has been that for a long time because he does
have the ability, no matter how bad the knight's going
for him to erase he with one big right hand.
And so the thing I took away from our interview,
and and it's not a surprise, is that he has
had an ailing shoulder in his right hand, in his
right arm for the last you know while. And so
he says, you know, we'll see if it's you know,
we'll see if it bears out on the on the
night when he gets in the ring. But he said,
for the first time in the few years his right
shoulder is healthy and it feels good and it's back
and it's back in order. He you know, after the
loss uh to to zang Jelas in his last fight
where he got knocked out, he did undergo the procedure
that needed to clean things up and to take care
of whatever the problem was inside the shoulder, and he's
had a long layoffs since then, and so it's been
a year since he's fought, and so he says he
is good to go, and uh, you know, take him
at his word, will see how he performs. But the
reality is he's thirty nine years old. He has lost
two fights in a row. And the thing that gives
me pause about losing two fights in a row is
he lost them in very different fashion. The one against
against jayg he got absolutely clobbered and knocked out in
a brutal knockout. The fight before that, which was only
six months earlier, he actually was active in that period
of time where he had to fight with Joseph Parker.
Also the two fights were in Saudi Rega. He lost
a decision, not because Joseph Parker was somehow a very
dynamic fighter in that fight, he just out boxing and
you know, did enough to win, where Deontay didn't do
really anything. You know, we talked about some of the
recent fights that were setting compy Box records for fewest
punches thrown. One other fight that's on that high up
on that list is also this Joseph Parker Deontay Wilder fight.
So that was the problem. Before that, he scored a
first round knockout against Robert Elenius, who was there to
be knocked out, and before that he got knocked out
two times in a row by Tyson Jury.
Speaker 1: So on the one hand, he's.
Speaker 2: Got four losses in the last five fights.
Speaker 3: Well, but on the one hand, you say he's lost
to the best guys out there at that time. Parker
zag who are all top level ivyweights. Obviously the one
win against a very low level opponent, and not very
low level, but a guy that was way beyond his
best and Millennius. Now he's fighting Herndon and nobody's making
this out to be like, oh, he's going to be back.
This is a big time test. Even Deontay admits, like,
this is the opportunity to see where I am, how
I feel. He called it a tune up, which is
what it is, and they have the expectation that if
he is healthy and he wins and presumably by a
right handed knockout against an opponent who's been stopped four
times in his five losses, including by guys who are
not at Deontay Wilder's level, like, for example, even though
Tyrrell Herndon has won three fights in a row, they've
been against much lesser guys. And if you go back
to fight before that when he got knocked out, he
got drilled by the prospect Richard Torres. So that's the
kind of level where he's at. So Deontay understands, like
what his purpose in this fight is, it's to win
and move on. He hopes to eventually, you know, fight
for a title again. He also knows that this can
mean that if he gets to win and he looks okay,
there's no injuries, he can pave the way maybe the
end of this year to do the fight with Anthony Joshua,
who was also coming off a devastating knockout loss in Dubois,
who says he's gonna fight again, who has been rebuffed
by Tyson Fury, and the next biggest fight that Anthony
Joshua could have would be to put back together to
fight with Deontey, because remember TJ. Before the Joe Parker fight,
they had finally, after years and years and years, had
finally signed to fight each other. But it was contingent
on them winning on that night, and so Deontay went
out there and got beat by Parker.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously Joshua did his job by defeating Otto Wellen in
their fight, and even then, had it happen, the fight
was already a few years beyond when it should have happened.
It just happened five six years ago when it would
have been for undisputed. They were both undefeated, It was
the hottest fight in the division. It was America versus England.
It was just the biggest thing in the world. But
the reality is this, people, for whatever reason, still have
an in to see those two guys clash. They are
well known heavyweights with big fan followings, with different kinds
of personalities, and even though it's never gonna be what
it should have been, people still want for the sake
of the era, for the sake of the record book,
to see who was the better man, at least on
that night, to finally see them fight and they're both
so up and down, and they both obviously are diminished.
Speaker 2: They've both been knocked out and knocked out, so I
don't know, I don't know what's there. And Joshua was
hurt too. Joshua's got an elbow injury, so state when
not saying when.
Speaker 3: He comes back off the injury backs at the end
of the end of the end of the you know,
end of this year.
Speaker 1: So it'll it'll.
Speaker 3: You just got to put it in his proper box.
If they fight. Cool, but it's not for the undisputed championship.
It's not even you know, two guys that I think
you might not even rank either guy in the top
ten anymore for that matter. But people still want to
see it, and so give the people what they want.
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is Friday Night as we do this, including with the podcast.
Friday Night is the Wilder Herndon Battle in Wichita, Kansas. Dan,
let's quickly move to Christian Mabilly, who is also in
Action on Friday night in Quebec. The super middleweight contender,
the veteran opponent Suleski, who we've seen before. Tell me,
give me, give me like a quick ninety second synopsis,
real quick on Mabilly's return on top rank and what
ESPN Plus go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually an Ia the Tiger card there the
co promoter along with top rank of Thembilly. So he's
going to be fighting in the Videotron Center in Quebec City.
He's a French fighter but based out of Montreal, so
he'll be the big obviously huge fan favorite. And look,
he is the number one contender in the WBC. They're
not going to order the fight with Canelo Alvarez. He's
got big, huge business for everybody with this Terrence Crawford fight,
even before that when he was fighting once again for
undisputed when he faced the Skull back a couple of
months ago. So and Billy's getting the next best thing
that he can achieve right now, which is the opportunity
to fight for the interim belt against Seleski. Remember he
was originally ordered to fight Diego Pacheco for the interim title.
That would have been a big time fight. Pachecko didn't
want any part of Mambilly, and he's taking, in my opinion,
a lesser fight against Trevor McCombe, which will still be
an entertaining and fun fight, but it's not Mabilly. So
that fight's taking place on the BAM Rodriguez undercard coming
up July nineteenth. But so in the meantime, Celeski is
still high in the ratings and he got this opportunity.
He's only lost three times. Celeski is a very solid
veteran fighter, only been stopped one time that was against Pacheco,
but he gave good fights to guys like Demetris Andre
in a world title fight Danny Jacobson a title eliminated
those rats at the middleweight division. But look, Mabilly is
a big puncher. He did go the distance in his
last fight with Sergey devron Chenko, but devin Chenko's got
an iron chin, and so I think this actually will
be a fun fight.
Speaker 1: This will be a pretty good battle. Two two tough dudes.
Speaker 3: One guy is certainly on the ascent in terms of Mbilly,
another guy that's the battle tested veteran in Seleski. And
one thing tip of the hatles talk about the road
where all of his losses that he's had in his career,
all all of these defeats have taken place in his
opponent's hometown, and now he's basically going to Billie's hometown.
Maybe a few miles away, but it's still Canada, it's
still you know, his his fan base. So that should
be it should be an interesting, fun little fight, I think,
and the winner will have the interim title, and we'll
put the winner in a good position to get bigger
person and eventually either be ordered to fight the Canelo
Crawford winner for the undisputed title or at least for
the WBC belt, or if that fighter decides to retire
or vacate or what have you, he'll be elevated. So he's,
you know, the winner, this fight's going to be in
a great position.
Speaker 2: Good stuff on that. And again, we've got to get
out of here. In a moment or two, we've been
We've been a little bit with.
Speaker 1: The we don't have to get out here. You got
to get out of here.
Speaker 2: You I have got to get out of here because
I have dinner with the wife and the seventeen year
old twins coming up here, so I've got to scoot
a long Pacific time. But we got a couple of
other news items before we depart on the live show,
and again the podcast audience hearing us on the normal
timeline here, but we're doing this live on YouTube. What's
the latest with w BO Welterway champion Brian Norman and
his next fight? Give me the quick deats.
Speaker 3: Well, nothing is done yet, but he obviously is coming
off the knockout against Sasaki that was you know, last week,
and there's been a discussion between with the Swiss Saudi Arabia,
you know Sela looking to do a match you know
Turkey Alshk that would potentially be Brian Norman to defend
the title against Devin Haney this fall in Riann Saudi
Arabia where they're planning some big cards still before the
end of this year. There's gonna be obviously the third
fight between Better bn B Ball. They're going to be
planning a no in a way fight should he win
his upcoming bout, So there'll be some activity going on
over there at the end of this year, and that's
one of the fights that they are discussing. Devin Haney
has been looking for a name. I mean he was.
He was originally supposed to fight Ryan Garcia. He lost
against Romero back on the Times Square card in May.
Haini won against Cozy Ramirez in a god awful fight,
but he still got to win. Then there was the
prop of the fight between Hani and Tiafima Lopez. Haney's
team agreed, they signed, they were ready to go. Hani
was excited about that fight. Lopez agreed and then decided
not to sign, and so that fight went by the way.
Speaker 1: So he lost that on.
Speaker 3: Garcia lost out on Tiafimo, and now Brian Norman is
in the picture, and if they didn't wrapped up Well.
Speaker 2: Says it more likely that Haney wants to be a
welterweight and fight for a welterweight title as opposed to
moving back down to one forty and fight for a title.
What are you hearing?
Speaker 3: Well, when he was fighting, when he was doing the
deal with Tiafimo Lopez, it was going to be in
the welterweight division, so it wasn't him moving back down.
You figure, if you're never going to go down to
the to the next way class below, you do it
for the world title. So No, Devin Haney's now a welterweight.
He fought the fight against Ramirez at one hundred and
forty four. The fight with Tiafima was contemplated and agreed
to it one forty seven, and so I don't know
if they've come up with an exact weight for this,
but I'm assuming it would be also one forty seven
to challenge Brian Norman for the WBO title. And look,
fights make fights, and when you're Norman and you look
so great like he's done in his last few fights,
suddenly you're in the pick sure for guys that are
looking for titles.
Speaker 1: Sign me up, and hey, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Sign me up. Hey, you mentioned Naoya in a way
and his December opponent. Yeah, what have we learned about that?
Real quick?
Speaker 3: For the audience here, Well, there's a lot that has
to happen first, Okay, First of all, you have in
a way, he's got business to attend to September fourteenth
in Japan. He's taken on mj Acmadalia. That is the
long overtoo mandatory, also the interim title of the WBA,
and so that fight is finally made and set to go.
He won his fight against Cardenas an MJ one his
tune up fights.
Speaker 1: So that fight's good.
Speaker 3: Now after that fight's over with, they're planning to do
a fight his fourth fight of this calendar year, to
be nice and busy, but to do so in Saudi Arabia.
He has a sponsorship deal with with read Season, and
even though it wasn't officially that you had a fight
in Saudi Arabia as part of that, they're interested to
do that fight, to bring him to Saudi Arabia to
do the match, and so they're looking to have him
do with the fight with Picasso the undefeated next again,
who does have or had a fight that he that
he took care of. I think he has one other
fight coming up also that will take place, you know,
this summer. But if they're if they both are victorious
when they do those bouts, that's the fight that's gonna happen.
I talked to Picasso's uh, you know, his new advisor,
Sean Gibbons, who's worked with a ton of champions, works
with Manny Packya, has worked with lots of top guys.
Are ready to go, and so if everybody comes out
of those fights healthy, you'll be seeing u Picasso challenge
for that title end of this year. I think the
date was December twenty seventh from what Turkey al Sheik
was saying, and uh, that'll just be another, uh, another
really interesting factor because you have in a way one
of the top pound for pound fighters in boxing doing
what what so many great fighters of the past did,
which is fight all the time. I mean, you can't
name an elite fighter that's had four fights in one
calendar year and a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. We love it within activity with activity,
and we hate it with inactivity. And the monster has
been as active as anybody really crazily.
Speaker 1: We love it.
Speaker 2: And he's looking to move up to featherweight and he's
going to try to be undisputed probably there over the
course of.
Speaker 3: The next and it's one thing when you're active. A
lot of times guys might take like the softer touch
type fights, but he's not doing that.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3: The fight in January was supposed was supposed to be
or it turned out to be against like the kind
of a soft touch because it was a late replacement,
but one was a mandatory against Sam Goodman, who was
an undefeated fighter from Australia, not that he would have
been the favorite, but that would have been a very
reasonable opponent. Then he obviously fought you know, the one
like and it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Beating Louise Nary. He beat Louise Narry, a former champion,
but that wasn't That wasn't this year though, well correct,
not this year, but recently.
Speaker 3: In the calendar year of this year, so you know,
but I mean, Achmadalia of obviously is not a soft
touch in any way, shape or form. So you know,
he's taken on real guys as he's moving along, and
even even the Cardenas fight, it may not have been
on paper the most competitive fight, but it shut turned
out to be that way.
Speaker 2: I mean, Cardanius knocked him down in the first round
and buckled him another time later on in the Fight
for the.
Speaker 3: Monster, I talked about the Pacasta real quick in terms
of his interim fight. He is scared schedule with the
fight one of the preliminary doubts coming up on Prime
video with Manny Pacio fights. He's taken on another fighter
from Japan, so he's got to get through that fight.
That's what I was trying to think of, and obviously
MJ is taken on in a way in September. By September,
if they're both out of those fights with victories and
without injuries, that's what's going to be at the end
of the year. But again, people make clans and God laughs.
Speaker 2: You know this has been the case for like the
last two months, by the way, with everything set up
for a fighter to win at home, home country, whatever hometown,
and they lose. Listen, good stuff here live on the
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Speaker 3: A little I'm a little disappointed. And one thing about this,
which is which is I expected that you spend most
of your last couple of days at Disneyland, that you'd
be wearing the Mickey Years.
Speaker 2: You got half the years, although on social media the
wife and the twins half the ears on it. Rayfield's
texting me, going, where are your ears?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Tell them what happened. So you texted me a picture
this morning as we were like trying to plan out
what was going to go on at the show. And
the picture was you and your lovely family, your wife
and your daughters, and if I'm not mistaken, your maybe
with your wife and one of your daughters had the
Mickey ears. And you're like, we're here at Disneyland, and
I think, I wrote back, I don't care unless the
picture has.
Speaker 1: You and nickeyears. So that's right, I better get my
picture of Mickeyear's all right.
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