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Speaker 1: I made a decision pace Sunny Sunie on ahead of

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Visions Night.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud. Uh,

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it's the holidays. This is going to be our last show. Yes,

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this is our last regulars. Well, no, because we have

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no because next week's we have Albie. We have yeah,

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we have Lbie's our guest next week for both shows. Yeah,

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we got into a lot of it was really good

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young adult stuff. Yes, yeah, you're gonna want to listen

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to it if you have a young, like college age

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kid in the house. Yeah for sure. Yeah, and teenage.

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Speaker 1: She did two shows with us, and that's going to

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air on Christmas week, right, and then we'll be dark

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on Near's the week leading up between Christmas and New

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Year's we will be dark that week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we'll be back right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't want to leave you high and dry, No,

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because we never do that, because you're going to be stressed.

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I don't want to have some like fun get your

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mind up.

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Speaker 2: Something to listen to while you're wrapping last minute presence. Yeah. Yeah,

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so let me just tell you.

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Speaker 1: That. Okay, this is like a whole conversation and I

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am I am not going to tear up. I'm going

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to be super strong talking about this, but okay, so

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but I got into like a tiff with This is

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not the part that is going to actually make me sad.

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But I got into like a little thing with Xander,

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not as much with Okay, I'm going to just tell

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you what happened. So last couple of days, I just okay, uh,

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I don't know if like people are going to fall

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on two sides of this, and I understood. I can

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see this. I can honestly see this both ways. But

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what it is is that ever since Peopo died, I

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really I already really want another dog, and it's just

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like a hunger in my soul.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's interesting you say that, because I was

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wanting to ask you that, but then I didn't know

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if you were still grieving, you know, so well, oh.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's the thing. Of course I'm still grieving. But

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to me, like I am just drawn to I get

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a lot of dog content. I follow a lot of rescues. Yeah,

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even when I okay, here's the thing. When I had Peopo,

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as much as I loved her, I was like, I

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have love to have two dogs, but I never could

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because Peopo was super territorial in our house, and I

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was like, it's not going to be It's even though

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people would be like, well, I get used to it,

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I'm like, you don't know my dog. She's not happy

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with any dogs in our house, and I would be terrified.

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Speaker 2: And even when we.

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Speaker 1: Got her, the rescue lady was like, she's probably like

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gonna be very happy to be your only dog. But

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so I would still look at other dogs and be like,

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oh I wish I could have that one too, you

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know so, And I'm just gonna be totally honest. Okay,

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toward the end with Peopo, I don't know if it

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was just to make myself feel better, but I was

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already looking at like other dogs. I was already like

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my eyes were wandering. I was like, okay, people, is

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only going to be here for so long. And then

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like I don't know if what that is anxiety. Maybe

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I'm just fickle, but I was like already looking to

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the future. Now John not so much. He's a griever.

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It's not that I miss Peopo terribly and this is

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just a weird thing that I'm to get into, but

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so anyway, I've been looking at these dogs. Now. The

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thing that I do, which is probably not great, but

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I'm nothing if not honest but real, or as we

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would say, keep it one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Six seven bus stop.

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Speaker 1: I tend to like show John dogs, you know, which

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he does not really want to see. But I'll be like,

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oh my god, look at this dog. And then I

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know I'm doing that. I know I'm being manipulative, but

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I will say like, oh my god, doesn't this dog

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remind you of like Sherman, who is John's dog growing up? Huh?

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Sherman's such a cute name, I know, and that dog

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like John and his parents like loved, loved, loved the

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shit out of that dog.

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Speaker 2: You know, that a dog their people. What kind of

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dog was it?

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Speaker 1: He was like a boxer boxer mix boxer and and

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oh my god, not great Dane, but like maybe great Dane,

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like a big great Dane. He was big, and he

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was kind of boxer for Danish. Very good dog from

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what I've heard. Yeah, a lot of pictures of Sherman

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are in our house. Really cute picture of like John's

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mom and apparently John's mom had like a super special

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connection with the dog, which John thinks that I had

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a very special connection with people, right, Okay, so I

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will show him a dog and be like, doesn't this

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not kind of look like Sherman, hoping it'll at least

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get his attention, and he does a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of like yeah, and listen.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make John sound cold at all,

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because it's kind of the opposite. It like upsets him,

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like he's like, yeah, yeah, please. But he even said

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to me recently, he was like, please, don't manipulate me.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, but I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know another way to do it. Then, okay, so

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then I can't be stopped. I get it, you know,

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I get a little bit obsessive, and so I keep

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looking at them and then I wait until there's one

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that I really think might turn them around on this,

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because okay, when when we would talk about it, I

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would say, well, we're going to get another dog before

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people past, and John would go, of course, and like

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when we're ready for another dog in like a year.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like a year. What are you smoking? We're

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not waiting a year.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll be lucky if I get

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a week before I'm shopping for dogs obviously adoptn't shop.

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I'm not literally saying a shop, hot, do you do?

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Speaker 2: You see the dogs and read about them, and they come.

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Speaker 1: Up on my Facebook because I follow all these freaking rescues, right,

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I got obsessed with a dog that was like in

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further than Texas. I can't remember where it was, but

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it was like really fucking far, like Louisiana or something,

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and I was like, oh my god, and I literally

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wrote to the purse to the I messaged the guy.

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I was like, how do you, like, how did dogs

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get transported? Because like I'm kind of obsessed with peanut right.

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was like ready to get on a plane to get

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this dog. So then I'm like, okay, you need to

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settle down. Stop following rescues that aren't local, you know.

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But I just follow a few of them, so like

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videos come up on my Facebook. I get a lot

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from Lancaster Animal Control whatever, like Lancaster Shelter. There's one

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called Real Good Rescue. It's called there's one that I'm

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like obsessed with right now. So I show that dog

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to John and he's like, yeah, yeah, it's cute.

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Speaker 2: But we're not ready yet.

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Speaker 1: You know. Then I make the mistake of trying to

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show it to Xander. Now I do know what I'm doing.

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I know that I'm trying to Like, first of all,

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Sadie's Sadie's all about it. She's like, Mom, I've already

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been looking like there's already like puppies I've seen. I'm like,

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we're not getting a puppy. Yeah, mom's too tired. Yeah,

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puppy training a puppy. I want a dog that's like

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between like one and maybe three yet even four, like,

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because I want a dog that is hard to adopt.

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I want to take a dog that.

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Speaker 2: Needs you need. I get them from like the Pasadena

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Humane Society all the time. And it's like this dog

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we just got in was found wandering the streets like

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a broken leg and it's all better and healed, and

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I'm like, oh, poor.

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Speaker 1: Little Jack, you know, like, yeah, somebody else nursed the

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dog back to health, pay all the vet bills. But

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now it's been at the shelter and it's for ninety

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days and it keeps getting overlooked.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to overlook you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Okay, So I got Sadie. Elbie as you

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will hear because it will be kind of brought this

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up and then I was like, we're gonna have already

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talked about this, so Elbie's kind of like, yeah, whatever,

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cool cool. I was sure I'd love another dog, but

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I don't live at home, okay. So I'm like, Xander,

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come here, and he goes, this is just yesterday. This

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was literally yesterday. He goes, what I go, I just

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want to show you something. He goes, You're not going

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to show me another dog, are you? Now? I never

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realized I'd been doing it as often as I guess

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I have. And I was like, yeah, I am going

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to show you another dog. And he was like, mom,

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we're not getting another dog yet. And I was like,

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you don't know that. I don't think you are, okay.

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I genuinely got my hackles up a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I got a little defensive. I was like, is everybody

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in this fucking house made of stone? Like I was

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having a particularly like tough morning about Pepo because I'd

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been looking through pictures and I started looking at her

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picture and I just started getting sad. And I understand

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that I maybe I am not clear on do I just

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want Pepo back or do I really have like room

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in my heart right now to love a totally different dog.

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I don't fucking know. I don't know the answer to that.

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How do I know? Never been?

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Speaker 2: I think it's the latter. I think you have room

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in your heart for another dog. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I think I love having a dog in my house.

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I love I feel like the house feels really empty

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without a dog, right, Okay, But I also understand that

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it has not been very long. I mean it was

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before just like a week before Thanksgiving, only mid December.

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I do intellectually understand. But so Xander started going mom

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like I'm not over Pepo yet, and I was like, well,

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to get over.

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Speaker 2: Under one.

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Speaker 1: So now I'm being a little bit flippant because I'm

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also like, I can't take him that seriously, Like he's.

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Speaker 2: Leaving anyway, He's leaving me, He'll be going to college room. Well,

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who are you to I'm just listen.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to listen to this, hopefully, So I'm

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just being honest with you, guys, and you to tell

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you that. In my mind, I was like, who the

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fuck are you to tell me? When we can get

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another dog. Yeah, you got no chores in this house,

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you got no job, you got no chores to.

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Speaker 2: Walk the dog.

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Speaker 1: See yeah right, never even had a chore When it

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came to people, I mean, listen, I do not want

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to sell my kid short. He is super sensitive. He

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is the one that when we went out of town once,

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he did all the people, he did all the walks,

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he made sure she remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a good, responsible kid. And I know this

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in retrospect. This didn't have to do with him not

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wanting the responsibility. It had to do with him still

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feeling sad about people. But I could not really see

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that in the moment, and it was more like you're

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gonna get over it. Like if I know better, I

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know better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the mom, I know better. I still think

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I know better.

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Speaker 1: So then Xander starts going I was like, well, listen,

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Sadie was kind of in the room, so she saw this,

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and I think Sadie and I are right. But he

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was kind of dictating to me a little bit. He's like,

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we're not ready for a dog, and I was like, well,

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maybe you're not.

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Speaker 2: It would be my dog.

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Speaker 1: I'll be the one taking care of the dog, and

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kind of like yeah, like, who are you to tell

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you're not in charge here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: So then Xander goes, well, you're not respecting, like I'm

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not over Pepo yet or I'm like whatever, and then

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even I was like, well that's disrespectful to me, you know.

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the room, and Sadie looked at me and she goes, well,

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that was awkward, like she goes, that wasn't cool him,

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and I was like, yeah, I go I get it.

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I've been working them really hard. And Sadie's like, well,

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I'm with you. I'm ready for another dog. Now I'm like, okay,

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family's divided, right. But then I don't know. I usually

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don't get mad at Xander, but I started to feel

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kind of pit I was like, yeah, the fuck, Like

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I felt a little bit ganged up on, Like his

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attitude was like, well, Dad and I are not over,

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which then hurt my feelings because I felt like he

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was kind of implying like, well, I guess your heart's

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made of stone and like you don't care about people anymore,

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but I do. And I was like bitch. I care

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about the people the most, you know what I mean,

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Like I was like I was the saddest about them.

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Speaker 2: Became a competition who was my mind better one?

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Speaker 1: So then Xander leaves and but he's I think feeling

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a little bit like, uh oh, is mom mad at me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So he had originally said like that, he and Sadie

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we're going to go get a bagel, and I was

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like I'll come. Then Xander goes, uh, are you coming

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for a bagel? And you know, of course I was

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like no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I know those kind of arguments, right, yeah, no, thanks yeah,

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and he goes okay.

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this happened while he was out of the room. And

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then John was like, what's what's wrong or whatever, and

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he goes, I guess he said something like I don't know,

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I think Mom's upset or whatever, and then John was like,

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of course not, she'd never be upset at you, because

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that is pretty rare. So then John comes in and

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he's like, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I said no, I'm not No. I said yeah, I'm fine,

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I'm fine. And then he was like, well, you don't

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seem fine. You see you look like you were crying.

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And I was like, I'm fine, Like what's wrong is

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did I do something? And I was like, no, Sander

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did and he was like what And then I was

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Then I started crying and I was like, I just

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really want a dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to have a dog.

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Speaker 1: I really really want a dog.

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Speaker 2: I want to love on a dog. Yeah. He was like,

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oh no, well, of course, like we will get a dog.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, no, but I want a dog now.

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Speaker 2: By the end of this, I don't like, we will.

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Speaker 1: Get a dog.

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Speaker 2: That's so nebulous, right, And.

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Speaker 1: Then I just started feeling like I'm a fucking adult

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like you. I mean, all of a sudden, I kind

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of I resented being married having a fan, like, well,

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I have to run shit by people like I'm a

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grown ass woman, Like I decide when I want to

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have dogs. If I want to have a dog, right

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fucking now, I'm gonna go get a dog. Obviously I

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can't do that, yes, And then I was like and

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then John, because he's very sweet, he was like, honey, like,

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I'm not the boss you like we you know what

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I mean, I'm never going to be like, no, we're

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not having a dog's I'm just asking that you give

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me like a little bit more time.

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Speaker 2: I'm still grieving, like I'm us people every day. And

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I was like, I know, but I don't understand why

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we can't grieve people and have another dog.

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Speaker 1: And I gave him all the reasons which I gave you.

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We've got this house, we don't have a dog, we

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have dog stuff, we have time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from home, you would love like looking forward to

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your walks, right to take people out?

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I said that. I was like, it gives

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my life like some order, like I like getting up

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with my dog and yes, my dog for a walk,

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and it gives me like ritual. And he was like,

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I totally understand all that he's like, and Xander understands

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it too, but everybody grieves differently, and Xander and I

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just might need more time. And then I was like,

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you know it didn't end right there. I wasn't like, Okay,

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I understand. It seems like you two are a caho.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like you're getting ganged up on, right,

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said you're both and John's like, I swear to god,

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I've never had this conversation with Xander.

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Speaker 1: He's like, just Xander is super sensitive too, And I'm like, oh,

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I'm not sensitive. I guess. I guess I just have

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a heart made of stone, like I didn't care about.

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Speaker 2: People, you know. I was a little sarcastic. Yeah, great, right.

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Speaker 1: And then John was just like, look like you were.

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I mean, of course, he said all the right, you know.

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He was just like you were the best dog mom,

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like you know, of course, And I understand. I understand

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where you're coming from. And I also understand where Xander's

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coming from. And and I said, well, you said if

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we when we get a dog, or if we get

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a dog in a year, And I was like, I

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am not waiting a year. And he was like, I know,

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I know. I totally like that. I upped my timeline.

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I backed off of that. He's like, can we just

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wait until after the holidays? Okay. I was like, okay,

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but I still want the dog that I showed you.

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And he goes, well, maybe that dog will still be

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like it's in a foster home, like maybe that dog,

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but can we just wait till the right dog comes

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to us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I was like, when I already came to us.

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I know, and I did, I said, but it already did.

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Speaker 1: It's the one I showed you.

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Speaker 2: I want that dog.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, I know, but you have showed me

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several dogs that you were like, that's the dog. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So okay, So this morning, I'm not Trader Joe's and

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I see and I've never run into him in Trader

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Joe's before I see my cross the street neighbor. You've

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heard me talk about my neighbor Mitch a lot, but

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you might not have heard me talk about my neighbor Josh.

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So Josh and his wife.

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Speaker 2: It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Josh is running for Congress right now. Really yeah, anyway,

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it's that part doesn't really matter. It's neither here nor

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there except that signs with his name or all over

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our neighborhood. But anyway, when I met Josh, he had

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this big dog named Louie, who was old similar age

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to Pipo that well, so he was maybe one year

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older than Pepo. And there came a day when Josh

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was like, hey, we're putting Louie down and they had

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he had Louise since for a long time, well, he

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had Louise since lou was a puppy. Louis was fourteen,

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and he was like, we're putting Louie down. And I

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was so sad, of course, and then he was like,

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you know, do you want to like bring people over

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to like say hi, and like I'm trying to like

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have Louis say bye to the dogs in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: It was sad.

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Speaker 1: Then when I realized. So then afterward, not that far after,

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in my mind, too soon, they were like talking about

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their next dog. Okay, so they were like, we're getting

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a mastiff dog.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And I was had all kinds of little judgments in

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my head. I was like, first of all, you guys

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have a little little little kid, do you really I

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didn't say this out loud. I was judging in my right, right,

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you really want a giant like one hundred and fifty

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pounds mastiff like with a baby. But I guess they

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thought they knew better.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh gosh. They were like, we're the ones who

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are have the dog, right, No Xander telling them no.

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Speaker 1: Xander policing the eruction right at John Tag teaming. So anyway,

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in my mind, I'm like, wow, they this was seemed

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very soon after Okay, So anyway, they've had this dog, gus, gorgeous, fun,

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big goofy mastiff for I mean, it's got to have

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been like a year at this point. So I texted

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Josh when we were going to put Peopo down and

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the company we wanted to use didn't have any appointments

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on the day we wanted, and I texted him and.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey, what did you use for your dog?

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Speaker 1: And he gave me the name of a company turned

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out another anyway, so that's the company I used, right,

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So I hadn't seen him. Literally, I ran into him

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because I avoid all of the neighborhood people that walk

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their dogs because it makes me sad. Yeah, and a

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blinking of them. All of our neighbors have dogs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I see him at Trader Joe's this morning, and

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he's like, oh my god, how you know. He gave

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me like sad clown face, like yeah, how are you

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you know? And I was like, well, funny you should ask.

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I was like, is this crazy? But I already want

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another dog? And then I just spilled it. I was like,

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but John and like Xander don't want another dog. And

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he goes and I said, and I know you go Gus,

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like not too long after, and he goes, well, it's

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funny that you should say that. He goes because I

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was like John and Xander, he was like, I do

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not want another dog right now. I'm grieving, and he said.

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My wife is the one that was like, you know what,

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you're not yourself. You're really sad, and I think it's

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I think we need a dog, he said. At first

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he was very resistant, and then he said that when

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they got I thought he was all super gung ho.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was his idea.

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Speaker 1: Right right then when they got the dog, he told

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me that he was like kind of resentful. And he

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said that one time he said out loud to his dog,

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like Gus, you are not Louie. Oh so you're just

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you're not You're not Louie. And he goes, I feel

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almost bad about that, and he goes. But then like

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something started to change in me and now like I

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know Gus isn't Louie, but he's his own, like he's

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really his own dog, and and wetted, he started talking

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about Louie and I started talking about Penelope. Then we

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both started crying and Trader Joe's in the produce area

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of Trader Joe's, and then he was like, Ash, should

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I hug you? And then we hogged, and then we

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talked more, and then we hugged again, and then I

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felt better.

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Speaker 2: Right, Wow, so he was kind of resentful. I mean,

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I'm just trying to think. I remember when Molly passed away.

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The kids were little, they were in fourth grade, and

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I just I remember thinking immediately after Molly was gone, like,

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I think we need to get another dog, like soon,

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and you know, Adam was just kind of like, eh,

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you know, we'll get one when we get one, when

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the right time is right or whatever. I missed having

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that dog. I missed having that routine with the dog,

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having that dog follow me everywhere I went. You know.

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It was just like there was this hole in my

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heart and I felt like having a new dog would

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like fulfill, you know. And then I can't remember how

468
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:05,319
much longer it took, but it wasn't very long after

469
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,960
until we got Phil. And it wasn't that, No, it

470
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,720
was a few months, it's maybe six.

471
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: I do feel like when I've looked back at our

472
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,359
past shows. Yeah, because I've I've played the best of

473
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,039
episode when you got Phil, right, it was not far

474
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:25,119
apart of me getting Penelope.

475
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: Oh really, do you remember what year you got Phil? Yeah,

476
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:33,319
we got Phil at the end of two thousand and fifteen,

477
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,559
so it was.

478
00:25:34,759 --> 00:25:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we got Penelope in twenty sixteen. Okay,

479
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720
but she was already probably four or five years old. Right,

480
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,240
you got Phil as a puppy.

481
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: We got Phil as a puppy in December, and Molly

482
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:52,799
died in September, No, no, August, August, September, October and

483
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:55,160
then December. Yeah, and that's how long it took to

484
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,599
get Phil.

485
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then how did you feel about that?

486
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:02,079
Speaker 2: By then, it was like everybody was excited. You know.

487
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,519
We were telling the kids, you know, you guys want

488
00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:06,920
a dog for Christmas, you know, and Natali wanted to

489
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,400
you know, golden retriever, that's what she wanted, and blah

490
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,119
blah blah. And then and then Adam's assistant at the

491
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,960
time just coincidentally adopted Phil because he wanted a dog,

492
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,359
adopted him as a as a puppy, but then his

493
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:23,519
landlord wouldn't let him keep him. Told me how to

494
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:26,119
get rid of it. So he gave him to us.

495
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,880
His name was Dozer at the time. Now then we

496
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,359
change it to Phil. He only had him for like

497
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,799
a month, but yeah, we got lucky. So kind of

498
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:38,240
that's how it ended up. It felt like it felt natural.

499
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,920
By by December, it was like it's time, you know,

500
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:42,920
but I don't know if you have you need to

501
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,599
wait that long.

502
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:47,319
Speaker 1: Maybe after the holidays. Well then I'm going to have

503
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,000
to start in on him again, you know.

504
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm hoping that they come around. You know,

505
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,359
maybe the more you plant the seeds.

506
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: Well, this is how well planting the seed's gone, like

507
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:00,720
it caused to fight.

508
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you show me another dog.

509
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: I will say that I apologized to Xander and he

510
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,839
was like, oh my gosh, like you don't have to apologize,

511
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,519
Like I totally understand where you're coming from, and like, yeah,

512
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,319
you know, he was really sweet. He was so sweet.

513
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,839
I didn't do anything that wrong, but you know, I'm

514
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,599
big on like.

515
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't like there to be tension of course. Yeah, yeah,

516
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,759
I was just like sorry.

517
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,279
Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry. I had a meltdown and I

518
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,880
said it was a little uncalled for and it's you know,

519
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:37,640
Billy had nothing to do with you. I get where

520
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,519
you're coming from. And then he said, I'm thank you.

521
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,519
He said, thank you for saying that. I'll tell you

522
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:46,119
exactly what he said. It was really sweet. Yeah, I

523
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,720
love I like apologizing. Yeah, I know, I know it's

524
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,799
good to kids.

525
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,839
Speaker 2: It's good because they learn how to do it for

526
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,079
them in their you know, relationships.

527
00:27:55,519 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, oh, because then I tried to Oh,

528
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,960
I said, I said, Hi, stupid, sorry for my meltdown.

529
00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,319
I was just having a sad about Peeps day and

530
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000
really want a new dog eat to love on.

531
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I wasn't respecting your take on things. I

532
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,279
get it. That isn't that was guy.

533
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: And then he said, Hi, Mama, don't worry about it.

534
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000
I really appreciate you saying that. But I also totally

535
00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:22,720
understand where you're coming from. And losing Peeps has been

536
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:23,400
super hard.

537
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: Oh I know, yeah, I guess everybody. You know, they

538
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:33,359
grieve differently from my kids. They loved Mollie, but they

539
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,920
weren't like really attached to Mollie, you know, and so

540
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:40,880
by then they were like, Okay, we're ready for our

541
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,599
own dog now, you know, like starting fresh, right, you know.

542
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,400
And then I remember showing the tally of saying a

543
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,759
golden retriever, a golden Retriever. And then when we knew

544
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:51,960
we were going to get Phil, I go, what do

545
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,799
you think about a lab like a black lab? And

546
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,519
she's like, I don't know, and I showed her the

547
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:58,319
picture of Phil when he was a puppy. She burst

548
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,880
into tears. She was like, oh my, got that face. Yes,

549
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,119
I like, I'd like, I didn't tell them. I didn't

550
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,519
tell her like that's going to be your dog. Just

551
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,279
wanted to get her a reaction. And then of course,

552
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:14,279
like Christmas morning, Molly, Phil came wandering in with the

553
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:18,200
red bow half around him, wandering into the into the

554
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,079
living room while they were opening presents, and she's burst

555
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,079
into tears crying. I gotta call Cammy right away. And

556
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,559
so it's like when it does happen the kids, and

557
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,039
I think your kids are well, it's now it's tough

558
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,240
because they're older and they're going to be off, you know,

559
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,200
doing their thing.

560
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: That's partially the reason that I had such a I

561
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,160
think I'm having a little bit of and I know

562
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,519
you get it. Of all people, I'm having a little

563
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,279
bit of like, oh my god, my kids are going

564
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,160
to be yeah, eighteen, they're really starting to just live

565
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,880
their own lives.

566
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,119
Speaker 2: Right.

567
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Even the other night, uh well this was also last

568
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,400
last night. A lot of stories for us sure coming

569
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,480
out yesterday. Yeah, you know, we were trying to figure

570
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,480
out which have dinner just with John and and he

571
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:02,880
was like.

572
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 2: Should I just order order pizza?

573
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,119
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, So we ordered like two

574
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440
large pizzas for the five of us. Then John goes,

575
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,920
I've already ordered the pizzas. He's getting ready to go

576
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680
get him and he goes. So Albi and Sadie are

577
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,839
saying they're going to go out for dinner, and I

578
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,000
was like, no, just ordered dinner right or no? Right?

579
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,519
I just it It just but it made me realize.

580
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,680
And they didn't go out for dinner. They went out

581
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,559
for a sweet treat. Yeah. But I was just like,

582
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
they're going to be living their own lives, and their

583
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,119
lives doing center around family dinner or home taking care

584
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,039
of the dog or and I'm going to be more

585
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:44,319
or less like alone.

586
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're gonna want your next dog to like,

587
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,359
you know, be young and healthy and the dog that

588
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,039
you want you know that you pick out and there's

589
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,000
so many dogs where you look at it, and there's

590
00:30:58,039 --> 00:30:59,920
been so many times when like Phil needs a friend,

591
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160
I'm gonna find one for him, and I'll look I'll go,

592
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,720
oh my god, this dog is perfect, sounds perfect for Phil.

593
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:09,680
But then I don't really pull the trigger. So yeah, I've.

594
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: Got to show you this. I'll pull it up and

595
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240
then i'll show it to you after, or I'll share

596
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:16,799
it whatever.

597
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: I don't know now I'm obsessed with, right, But they

598
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,839
always there's always going to be the next dog that's

599
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,880
going to pull out your heart strings that you're gonna go, oh,

600
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400
this one's gonna be perfect too. You know, I don't

601
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,359
have to get one from Texas, No, this one is La. Yeah.

602
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: When I'm my new one that I'm obsessed with, I wish,

603
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,720
I just want to His name is Clyde.

604
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,599
Speaker 2: Clyde.

605
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that the cutest name?

606
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: That is the cutest names?

607
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: So his name is Clyde. He's in a foster home,

608
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:47,440
so that makes me know that, Okay, I'm sure that

609
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,119
he's fine in the foster home and still after the holidays.

610
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:55,960
Right anyway, he's he sounds a lot like Penelope he's

611
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,519
just like they said, he's just like a total couch potato.

612
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:03,880
He'll like lay at your feet really good on a leash,

613
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:07,640
like just a really obedient and sweet and wants to

614
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,400
cuddle all the time and doesn't isn't really that interested

615
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,279
in other dogs, right, not bad with other dogs, but

616
00:32:15,359 --> 00:32:15,920
doesn't care.

617
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,279
Speaker 2: So like it's like film, which is like Penelope. Yeah, yeah, she.

618
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,519
Speaker 1: Couldn't really be bothered with any other dogs except for

619
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:22,880
a couple.

620
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: What kind of dog is it? Is it mixed like.

621
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,279
Speaker 1: A pit bull, like a pit boxer mix. Oh, dolls

622
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,440
are cute. So it's got a little bit of a

623
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:35,799
boxer snout, but it's a pit head. Yeah, pitface, pitface,

624
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Yeah with boxer snout. It's really cute. He's like sixty

625
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,559
five pounds, same as Penelope. People different than Penelope. But

626
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,200
I like a dog with a really mellow temperament.

627
00:32:48,319 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah me too, me too.

628
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,799
Speaker 1: As soon as they say like this spirited girl around

629
00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:53,359
from like, no.

630
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: That too much, too much. I don't need a dog

631
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:59,319
that's going to dart out the front door. I have

632
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,880
to go chase him around the block. Right, No, those

633
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,599
days are over. I had that, No, I no, thank you.

634
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,039
I had that with my dog Snoopy that we grew

635
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:09,880
up with. Could never leave the front door open. You

636
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,039
just take off. Molly did it when she was young.

637
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,400
She would just take off. Phil did it a little bit.

638
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240
But Phil would be like over like he would just

639
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,240
be like by himself, kind of going like I'm just

640
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,119
gonna sneak over here. And the next thing, you know,

641
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720
like he's on Facebook, going, anybody know this dog is?

642
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:31,400
There's Phil on Facebook seen on the horse trail right

643
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,640
over by Thompson Street. Like great, Yeah, that's happened a

644
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,440
few times when I was at my condo. Yeah I don't. Yeah,

645
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:41,480
and I like a little more mellow dog, you know.

646
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,079
Speaker 1: Well now Phil's a little bit older too, so you

647
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,960
really get like yellow.

648
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very right.

649
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:50,559
Speaker 1: How's his health?

650
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: His health is good, Like you know, I take him

651
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,240
for walks, and he doesn't have this the stamina that

652
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,359
he used to like we used to be able to go,

653
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,400
I know, our out and now he just kind of

654
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,640
after I get halfway through our route, he just plops

655
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,440
on the grass and he doesn't want to get up,

656
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,519
and then he just lays there and then I'll go, okay,

657
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,360
let's go home. Let's go home. And then eventually he

658
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,360
gets up and then he slowly walks back home. So

659
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,559
I think he's okay. He's got that spine thing going

660
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:23,639
on where his you know, something in between his vertebrates,

661
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,480
the cow the collagen is like getting thinner and thin,

662
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,559
like it's not so it's not easy to bend, you know,

663
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,320
it's hard to explain. But so, but he gets his

664
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,760
his his uh, his vitamins and his you know, pain

665
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,519
meds and stuff.

666
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:42,159
Speaker 1: So he's he take carprofen.

667
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does twice a day.

668
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm going to give you a bottle

669
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:46,599
of it.

670
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,519
Speaker 2: I need it. I'm almost my refills. Oh my refills almost.

671
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:53,559
I have like a bottle and a half. Really yeah,

672
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,239
oh yeah, I'll take you.

673
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,119
Speaker 1: Take a half. Does he do a half and then

674
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:57,800
a half at the end.

675
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,559
Speaker 2: No, he takes one and once one hundred milliground twice

676
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,599
a day. I had twice. I don't know if it's

677
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,840
a hundred, but he takes one pill twice a day.

678
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyway, I have one hundred one hundred and

679
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,639
I have a bottle of thirty and a bottle of

680
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,039
like still like half.

681
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, keep it for me. Also, while we're talking

682
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,519
about our dogs. I have a painting coming for you

683
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,840
and it's on its way. And now we're not going

684
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,280
to see each other next week.

685
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: That's okay. So we also our friend Betsy, Oh where

686
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,599
is it? There's a bag. Our friend Betsy gave us

687
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,159
a picture and I want you know what. We'll open

688
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:41,480
it between shows and we will for the next show.

689
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,039
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. Okay.

690
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, she hit us a drawing of our dogs and

691
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,639
she made one for Robin two. Oh really, and then

692
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,280
Robin just brought it to me yesterday.

693
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: I brought it for you. Ah.

694
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:58,159
Speaker 1: Okay, wait. And also before we go, this is important.

695
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:04,320
So I presented Wiles mom yes.

696
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,679
Speaker 2: With our gift and oh my god, I how did

697
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:08,960
that go?

698
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,599
Speaker 1: How? I gave her over thirty six hundred dollars?

699
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:15,559
Speaker 2: Wow? And oh, you guys are the best.

700
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:19,199
Speaker 1: She teared up and she I mean, and she didn't

701
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,000
even know how much it was, but I told her

702
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it's I was like, girl, this is more than last year.

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I believe last year was like thirty one or thirty two.

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So she was just like, you don't understand, like how

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much this helps me? And like she said, she was

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like I she goes, this helps me with my rent.

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I need like, she goes, it's really hard and I

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just am determined to never be homeless again. And I

709
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was like, and she was like, please. She doesn't understand

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because I've never said I have a podcast and I

711
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,280
talk about you and your whole story. I don't want

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to embarrass her. Yeah, in any way, Yeah, all she knows,

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and all she needs to know is that there's a

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whole community of people that care about her and love

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her and have followed her story. And so she's like, please, please,

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thank everybody, please and tell everybody how much this means

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to me.

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Speaker 2: That's so nice.

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Speaker 1: So that happened.

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Speaker 2: That feels good. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: When I tell you how cool this woman is. How

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like so her As you know obviously, Lyle goes to

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school with Xander and has since tenth grade. And now

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her younger daughter, Goes is in ninth grade. So both

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her kids are at school with my kids, and it's

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so much better for her, and the school is closer

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to her apartment, and you know, her kid is thriving.

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As I've told you, Lyle got into school and he's

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working with a college counselor to help him get into

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a school where he could have a fully free ride.

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Everything heard, But like she shows up for every event

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even though she works really hard.

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Speaker 2: She's there it comes to school.

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Speaker 1: She's in the front row for the kids music show,

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like hands in her lap. And then she also is

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always the first one to be like, I'll bring something

737
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:18,480
like oh, bake sale, I'll bring something. And she sat

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00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,760
with me and because we just had the kids big

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music show, which I'll also talk about maybe I'll talk

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about that on Friday's episode. But I needed other parents

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to help me, and she was with me like the

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whole time, except when her kids were like on stage.

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Speaker 2: She's just that person. Yeah, she's a good mom, and

744
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360
you know, it feels good to give her something. I'm

745
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,079
sure she doesn't get like a Christmas bonus every year

746
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:45,920
like some people.

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Speaker 1: God no, she makes minimum wait and she doesn't even

748
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:52,000
get full hours at this place. But she's scared to

749
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,000
quit that job for another job because what if it's

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00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:57,159
not stable, Like I can't afford to be out of

751
00:38:57,159 --> 00:39:01,320
work for like one day, right right, Yeah, that's such

752
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:02,039
a great gift.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad. I'm so glad you did that, Stephanie.

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00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'm so glad everybody chipped in like it.

755
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,599
I always feel very awkward being like, okay, we spend

756
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some money, right, this is the last year that I

757
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,519
will have done it because my kids won't be in

758
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:22,440
school with her kids. Yeah, like yeah, kind of weird

759
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,800
right in a way, but you know, it just feels

760
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,639
good to like a send off.

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Speaker 2: Thing and like, yeah, everybody's so great to rally together.

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00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like what I was saying is I feel like

763
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,239
a little awkward asking, but then everybody is so like

764
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,199
of course. And then people just start sending me money

765
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,239
and I write, oh, that's so wonderful. And I go

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to the bank and go.

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00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,639
Speaker 2: I'm taking out a lot of cash. And they think

768
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:53,239
I'm doing a drug deal. Right, let them think it. Yeah,

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let them think it.

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00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:55,559
Speaker 1: Let them think I'm cooler than I am.

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00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,159
Speaker 2: That's great. Okay, should we say hello.

772
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: To our friends. Well, we've got Dick, he's frollicking frolining.

773
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,000
We got Nikki. Call your girl. Elizabeth Williamson has like

774
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,119
seventeen kids last counted.

775
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,679
Speaker 2: Wow, Rita Christmas gifts is.

776
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Rita's name reminds me of a basset hound. So and

777
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:18,519
they're so cute.

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Speaker 2: They are cute.

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00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Polly, we love your pancakes. Really, this is Zerrup

780
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,360
and Valerie, Bubba Fenwick hits out of the park and Katerina.

781
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,360
I have a little piece of beef jerky stuck in

782
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,559
my moler. So I thought of you and Gabby and Missy.

783
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,599
You guys are crazy, Yeah, Merry.

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00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: Christmas is Shaun so cute? Rebecca a little bit baby

785
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,440
is so cute too, Kelly Brandt, she will gass it up.

786
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Speaker 1: Right in the city of El Monte. Leslie, get over

787
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,960
COVID already, girl, it's not a thing anymore. That's a hoax.

788
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,840
Take a cough drop. Terren's a dirty Sanchez, Jennifer, get up, Sandra,

789
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,519
it's not easy being green. Stephanie's a stinker rinker and

790
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:06,920
christa kiss strap also core anymore? Is I e embroidery?

791
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,320
On Facebook? They do custom hats, polos whatever you want.

792
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,199
Almost said custom poyos. So I was reading it wrong.

793
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,639
Kaylie Pettis. She's a marriage and family therapist. She's in Seattle,

794
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,719
but she can see clients virtually across Washington State. She

795
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,119
helps high achieving women who feel confident in every area

796
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,679
of life except their love lives. You know, what look

797
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,760
her up at Emerald Bloomtherapy dot com. Also my friend

798
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:42,480
friend of the show avid listener can't say her name,

799
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:46,400
but she has a medium dot com account where she

800
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,519
talks a lot of shit about her ex husband, who

801
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:52,679
sounds like a total fucking nightmare. And they're really good stories.

802
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Oh but enjoy Linnette. Yeah, it's called at Unbecoming Stories.

803
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,760
Then The Family Skeptical. That's a podcast about raising kids

804
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,840
with no religion. Also Willman Frida, Palm Springs, Palm Desert,

805
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,840
go there, visit, have the salmon. Tell them you're crying

806
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,320
out loud listener, Ask for Kelly. Yeah, Basic Becky she's

807
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,039
at just Basicbecky dot com or basic Becky on Facebook.

808
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,239
She's got makes t shirts, mousepads, mugs, whatever you want,

809
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,400
she got it for you. Also, if you're on the

810
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island of Kawaii, that's in Hawaii. In case you didn't know, go.

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Speaker 2: To Sugar Skull.

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Speaker 1: That's our friend Maren's business she has with her husband.

813
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,880
It's a bakery. It's a gift shop. They do wedding cakes.

814
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,679
Go to Instagram and look up sugar Skull eight eight

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and give them a follow. Make it worth their while,

816
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,400
advertise with us. If you're going to go to Hawaii,

817
00:42:48,519 --> 00:42:51,000
why would you not use a travel agent who is

818
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,119
a listener of our show. And her name is Christine

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00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:58,320
Black and she is with Waves and Wonder Travel Okay Facebook,

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Christine Concierge travel planner. Jacob Crowley, He's Crowley and he

821
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:11,199
also is humping up the ACLU. Let's go go. Let's

822
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
go ACLU lawyers that are standing up for our rights.

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00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,840
Come on, give him all money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fern Candle Kelsey. She runs the business out of her home.

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She makes delicious smelling soy candles like tobacco, stage, lavender, sandalwood. Listen.

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Soy is a renewable resource. It's better for the environment.

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Find her on Insta at Fern Candle and every episode.

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Adam Adam's got a car. He's my friend. I trust

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00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,199
him with my life. He's got me my car.

831
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,159
Speaker 2: I love it. He's so easy to talk to, super friendly.

832
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: Go to his thing. Adam's got a car and then

833
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,960
just send him a text. Yeah, and be like FCOL listener.

834
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,280
He's constantly working with FCOL people.

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00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's it.

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00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,519
Speaker 2: Thanks. I want to say a quick hi to Robin Cole,

838
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:03,599
who Mike Gerstein did her plumbing and she's a huge

839
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,440
fan of ours and loves our show's been listening to

840
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,760
you for years, and I said I'd say hi to her.

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00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:10,719
So thank you, Rob, and we love you.

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00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,639
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Christmas and Merry Christmas everybody. Next week you'll

843
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:18,639
have Lbie in your earbuds.

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00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: That's right, is really good, really good?

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00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we love you guys.

846
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: I love you.

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00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

848
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: I see you Friday, your parent. Now, don't suck it up,

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lending go