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Speaker 5: Today we're going to talk about AI artificial intelligence with
Speaker 5: author Agg Liu, who's got a book written with Ashwari
Speaker 5: how Are PhD. The book is called The Handy Artificial
Speaker 5: Intelligence answer Book. It is terrific and I can't wait
Speaker 5: to get into our conversations with Agg because I think
Speaker 5: I'm going to learn a lot and you're going to
Speaker 5: learn a lot, and we're going to have a lot
Speaker 5: of fun here on Guys Guys Radio. So I ask
Speaker 5: yourself what does artificial intelligence mean for work, for society,
Speaker 5: for our lives? What is it capable of right now?
Speaker 5: And what might it be capable of in the future.
Speaker 5: It's popping up everywhere. Google Search is consumer customer service calls.
Speaker 5: I just had one the other day where AI handled
Speaker 5: everything perfectly. Netflix, YouTube, TikTok, algorithms, real time traffic updates,
Speaker 5: and routing Siri at Alexa, to name just a few.
Speaker 5: It seems that AI is pervading more and more of
Speaker 5: our society and we've got to get a handler on it.
Speaker 5: A lot of people ask, is AI going to take
Speaker 5: my job? Well, I think the key is that you've
Speaker 5: got to learn how to manage AI. It's a tool.
Speaker 5: It's going to take some jobs, replace some jobs, and
Speaker 5: it's going to create other jobs. So you have to
Speaker 5: be on the creative edge when it comes to doing
Speaker 5: things that a computer or algorithms can't do. The creativity,
Speaker 5: the emotional connection with other people, the problem solving, and
Speaker 5: that's how I think people are going to be able
Speaker 5: to continue to grow and get ahead. Our side is
Speaker 5: going to change. It's the same thing when the Internet
Speaker 5: came up, and email came up, and fax machines came up,
Speaker 5: and the telephone came up, and the TV came up.
Speaker 5: When all of these things were unleashed on our society,
Speaker 5: we managed to deal with it and we managed to
Speaker 5: continue growing. And I think that's what's going to happen
Speaker 5: in AI. And today we're going to talk about the
Speaker 5: earliest forms of AI, how it works, what some of
Speaker 5: the ethical questions are, what are some of the fears
Speaker 5: associated with the idea of thinking machines, and more with
Speaker 5: special guests agg Liu right here on today's Guys Guys Radio.
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Speaker 5: Okay, Guys Guys Radio. It is the interview portion of
Speaker 5: our show, and today we're going to talk about AI.
Speaker 5: My special guest is agg Leu, author of the Handy
Speaker 5: Artificial Intelligence answer Book, a practical guide designed to help
Speaker 5: everyday people, professionals, entrepreneurs, and curious minds understand one of
Speaker 5: the most transformative technologies of our time, Artificial intelligence. You know,
Speaker 5: AI is no longer something reserved for scientists and tech giants,
Speaker 5: as already influencing how we work, how we communicate, how
Speaker 5: we create, how we learn how we shop, invest and
Speaker 5: make decisions. Yet many people remain uncertain about what AI
Speaker 5: actually is, how it works, and how it will affect
Speaker 5: their lives. And believe me, it will. So today we'll
Speaker 5: separate fact from fiction, explore the opportunities and risks of AI,
Speaker 5: and discuss how listeners can use this powerful technology wisely
Speaker 5: and effectively. Welcome to Guys Guys Radio A G g Liu.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, good to be here.
Speaker 5: So I guess we should start at the beginning. You
Speaker 5: wrote this book with your writing.
Speaker 6: Partner, doctor Ashwari Powar.
Speaker 5: Yeah, here's the here's the book. I'm in the middle
Speaker 5: of it, so I have a piece of favor there.
Speaker 5: I'll take it out. But it's fantastic. And the first
Speaker 5: thing I wondered when I was reading the book was
Speaker 5: I wonder if AI wrote this book for you.
Speaker 6: No, we did this all all manually, all manually. We
Speaker 6: we we really wanted the goal here to be something
Speaker 6: that would be accessible to people, right. And I think
Speaker 6: in this age of AI, where it's so easy to
Speaker 6: get AI to write something for you, the thing that's
Speaker 6: going to be more important is knowing exactly what to write.
Speaker 6: Knowing exactly what you can do that, the I can't.
Speaker 6: And so when we created this, you know, the publisher
Speaker 6: with the publisher Visible in Press, they came to me
Speaker 6: and they said, hey, we have this great idea. We
Speaker 6: want to write this book in the series about AI.
Speaker 6: And I created a draft, worked with doctor Powart to
Speaker 6: sort of turn it into the current format. And yeah,
Speaker 6: it's really meant to be for a general audience. It's
Speaker 6: meant to be for people, you know, like your listeners.
Speaker 5: You know, it's amazing. I've gone through the book. It's
Speaker 5: not one of these books that you have to read
Speaker 5: from page one to the end, but it's just a
Speaker 5: list of questions that are really good and has very clear,
Speaker 5: easy to digest answers. And I think anybody who has
Speaker 5: an interest in AI, and if you don't have an
Speaker 5: interest in AI, you basically don't have an interest in
Speaker 5: being part of the color culture going forward. Because this
Speaker 5: is there, it's here to stay. And the key is,
Speaker 5: as I tell my thirteen year old son, you know,
Speaker 5: don't worry about it taking your job. Learn how to
Speaker 5: use it because it's going to create so much more
Speaker 5: in terms of jobs. So nothing to be afraid of.
Speaker 5: But a couple of guardrails, of course, but concerns but
Speaker 5: not fear, and let's let's work with it so for
Speaker 5: the benefit of everybody, because we hear, you know, about
Speaker 5: computing and Google, and then we hear about AI, and
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are not sure how
Speaker 5: to make the differentiation between what's the difference between like
Speaker 5: googling something and asking a service like CHATGBT, what's the
Speaker 5: difference between AI and data processing computer typic computer stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so AI came out of that data processing idea,
Speaker 6: but it works a little differently. So the AIS that
Speaker 6: we talk about today usually are something called a large
Speaker 6: language model. Large because it's got tons and tons of
Speaker 6: these numbers inside of it that it uses to make
Speaker 6: its processing. And it's a language model because it works
Speaker 6: with human language. So the difference between something like a
Speaker 6: standard program and a large language model is that when
Speaker 6: we write a computer program, even something as complicated as
Speaker 6: say Google Search was before it became AI related, every
Speaker 6: line of code in there was created by someone with
Speaker 6: a specific purpose. So you'd have a whole giant team
Speaker 6: of coders. They would work together to create this gigantic
Speaker 6: algorithm and everything, and they would know how each part
Speaker 6: works with AI, it's a little bit different with AI.
Speaker 6: What you do is you create a machine that can learn,
Speaker 6: hence the term machine learning, which is often thrown around
Speaker 6: in the same sentences as AI. And basically the way
Speaker 6: it learns it's not quite the same as a human
Speaker 6: but it has all these sort of tweakable numbers in it,
Speaker 6: and you give it tons and tons and tons of examples,
Speaker 6: you know, most of the Internet at this point, and
Speaker 6: it learns how to write human language by looking at
Speaker 6: those examples and trying to predict what's the next word
Speaker 6: in a sentence or a paragraph or something like that.
Speaker 6: And so it doesn't work in a way where we
Speaker 6: know how each line of it works. In fact, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of effort right now to try and understand
Speaker 6: what goes on inside these inside their little programming circuits here.
Speaker 6: So when you ask something like Chad GBT, it's not
Speaker 6: going to be necessarily quite as reliable as something like
Speaker 6: a Google search or quite as organize the same way.
Speaker 6: But it's going to have different strengths. It can do
Speaker 6: some things that are hard to program explicitly, things that
Speaker 6: are hard to explain about, you know, civity, making poetry,
Speaker 6: things like that fantastic.
Speaker 5: So what's the biggest mixed misconception and that people have
Speaker 5: about AI right now? The general population?
Speaker 6: Ooh, the general population. I would say a lot of
Speaker 6: people don't know what AI is capable of right now.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people if they've tried AI,
Speaker 6: they you know, used it when chat GPT first came out,
Speaker 6: and they think, Okay, that's you know, from twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: That's exactly how it is now. But it's gotten a
Speaker 6: lot better and different in certain ways.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Now AI it can work with text, it can actually
Speaker 6: write things out for you, it can work with images,
Speaker 6: it can work with so many different sorts of things.
Speaker 6: And one of the big problems with the AI that's
Speaker 6: been true for a very long time and it's still true,
Speaker 6: is that it's not one hundred percent reliable. You know,
Speaker 6: sometimes it'll make things up. So the companies call this
Speaker 6: the hallucination. I prefer the term confabulation myself. It's just
Speaker 6: basically shamelessly guessing an answer. But what you can do
Speaker 6: is you can ask the AI where it got its
Speaker 6: information from, and it'll be able to send you links
Speaker 6: to other places on the internet. And that means you
Speaker 6: as a person can back up what this AI is saying.
Speaker 6: So again it's about like what you're saying, how you
Speaker 6: use AI learning, how to use it effectively to help
Speaker 6: you instead of to mislead you.
Speaker 5: It's two thoughts here, agg One is why we question
Speaker 5: why AI seem to have like shown up all at once.
Speaker 5: It's been being used, but I think it's been kind
Speaker 5: of unveiled to the general public recently. But oh is
Speaker 5: that correct?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so really it hit the public scene all at
Speaker 6: once sort of in twenty twenty two with the release
Speaker 6: of chat GBT. The original version. Basically, the methods of
Speaker 6: computer science, the logic behind how we build these systems,
Speaker 6: has existed in some form for decades. It sort of
Speaker 6: became a hot topic in research field in the twenty
Speaker 6: tens or so, but it wasn't hooked up to enough
Speaker 6: computing power to actually make something that would be useful
Speaker 6: for the general public or interesting to the general public.
Speaker 6: It was just, you know, a research tool. It could
Speaker 6: do something like play the game of Go, for instance.
Speaker 6: It was an ancient Chinese game that was famously beaten
Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen. They beat the best human experts. So
Speaker 6: it's it's right when that chat GPT moment was the
Speaker 6: first time that these older algorithms were connected to enough
Speaker 6: computing power to matter. And once companies saw how big
Speaker 6: of a prize that was, that's when they started throwing
Speaker 6: tons and tons and tons of their computer power and
Speaker 6: their money to build new computers and everything like that
Speaker 6: in order to make this the behemoth that is today.
Speaker 5: And now we've got talking about behemoths. You have companies
Speaker 5: like Navidia who make the process and the video, yeah,
Speaker 5: the video, the processing chips, and then you have all
Speaker 5: these data sent being built and people are like, what's
Speaker 5: going on here? But using AI uses a lot of energy?
Speaker 5: I guess, So could you explain that how that works
Speaker 5: so people understand.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, So this is something we talk about
Speaker 6: in the book. The deal with AI is that it
Speaker 6: uses lots and lots of computing power both to make
Speaker 6: the AI do what you want in the first place.
Speaker 6: So training the AI, that is going through all those
Speaker 6: examples and having it learn the patterns of human language
Speaker 6: and how to answer questions and things like that. And
Speaker 6: when you're actually running an AI, it's a more complicated
Speaker 6: computer operation than something like older Google Search would have been.
Speaker 6: So you actually do need a pretty powerful computer somewhere
Speaker 6: in the world to be running that. And I don't
Speaker 6: want to oversell this. It's still using less energy than say,
Speaker 6: running a lawnmower or something like that. It's not going
Speaker 6: to be anything that's by itself. Each individual AI search
Speaker 6: isn't going to be a big problem. But once you
Speaker 6: have millions or billions of people using this thing, then
Speaker 6: it multiplies and then all of a sudden it's a problem.
Speaker 6: Now the electrical grid has to worry about can it
Speaker 6: power all these data centers and everything else that comes
Speaker 6: along with that.
Speaker 5: Now, as an expert in the area, what do you think,
Speaker 5: what's the answer to that? Because people are concerned, as
Speaker 5: you've seen all these data centers, it's all about surveillance.
Speaker 5: We're going to suck all the power. The grids are
Speaker 5: old that we can't protect them, et cetera. What do
Speaker 5: you see for SEA as a solution to this.
Speaker 6: As a solution to this, I'd say that we've known
Speaker 6: for a very long time that the power grid needs upgrading.
Speaker 6: It's just something that you know, every kind of person
Speaker 6: involved in the actual system says this is something that
Speaker 6: we need to work on, and so this is just
Speaker 6: adding fuel to that VIBA. Right. The more these data
Speaker 6: centers they use power, they use power basically twenty four
Speaker 6: to seven compared to some of these other sorts of things.
Speaker 6: And so I really think that part that's going to
Speaker 6: be making the grid smarter, making it have better energy
Speaker 6: storage so that you can take energy that's coming in
Speaker 6: the daytime or the nighttime and smooth it out. That
Speaker 6: also helps because there's a very specific problem where data
Speaker 6: centers need power that's organized very cleanly. So you know
Speaker 6: that alternating current that's going through your wires. If that
Speaker 6: shape that that current is making as a little jagged,
Speaker 6: then the data center can't really use it very well.
Speaker 6: So there's a specific thing they'll do is if that
Speaker 6: power just loses that quality to it, they'll switch over
Speaker 6: to backup power. And then all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 6: a bunch of extra energy on the grid, which is
Speaker 6: almost as big a problem, and it ends to be
Speaker 6: dumped somewhere. So basically all the same kinds of things
Speaker 6: people have been talking about for a while, you know,
Speaker 6: making sure we're having more efficient power plants and making
Speaker 6: sure that we have the energy storage. You know, solar
Speaker 6: is getting very cheap as much as it's kind of
Speaker 6: a meme and so so I think that's going to
Speaker 6: be the solution there. But then also there are some
Speaker 6: more technical ways to try and make AI more efficient
Speaker 6: on the chips that we have, which I could go into.
Speaker 5: Also, where do you see in terms of kind of
Speaker 5: the race for AI between the various big powers and
Speaker 5: kind of trees on the earth. Where do you see
Speaker 5: the US sitting? Are we in the lead? Are we
Speaker 5: number two? I mean, China obviously is highly evolved in
Speaker 5: the system. How about the other countries? Have they have
Speaker 5: they weigh behind? Or is it just the two of us?
Speaker 5: Or what do you see their agg.
Speaker 6: So it's pretty much just the US and China in
Speaker 6: the race at this point. There's a few European ones.
Speaker 6: There's some in the UK is involved in some I
Speaker 6: think there's Mysterroll that's in I believe France. But really
Speaker 6: it's the American companies and the Chinese companies that are
Speaker 6: in the lead. But I also want to stress it's
Speaker 6: not just all of America are raising against all of China.
Speaker 6: It's a few American companies. You've got Google, You've got
Speaker 6: open Ai, you've got Anthropic and they're raising each other
Speaker 6: as well as they're racing the Chinese companies. So you've
Speaker 6: got your q Win, you've got your Bidy and Ali Baba,
Speaker 6: all those guys. So it's not a monolithic thing in
Speaker 6: one or the other, I'd say that, But the US
Speaker 6: teams are, the US companies are in the lead right now.
Speaker 6: You know, the biggest news has been coming out of
Speaker 6: companies like Anthropic and Open Ai, especially with Claude Fable
Speaker 6: that's been in the news lately. So there's it's it's
Speaker 6: not an insurmountable lead. You know, there's a chance that
Speaker 6: depending on what we do, China could catch up. And
Speaker 6: I also want to stress that it's it's not a
Speaker 6: race in the sense that like if someone makes some
Speaker 6: AI system that's much better than everyone else's. We want
Speaker 6: it to be good, yes, but we also want it
Speaker 6: to be safe.
Speaker 5: M Okay, when you say safe, what do you mean.
Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of dangers that come with AI.
Speaker 6: You know, again, there's a lot of positive there's also
Speaker 6: some dangers that we have to watch out for. So
Speaker 6: one thing that's recently been been in the news is cybersecurity.
Speaker 6: So using the models that are at the cutting edge
Speaker 6: of the AI systems to find exploits in the software
Speaker 6: that runs banks, or that runs important social media sites,
Speaker 6: or anything that has your data in it. And one
Speaker 6: of the issues that people are finding is that these
Speaker 6: ais are so good at finding bugs in this code
Speaker 6: that all of a sudden, the number of bugs that
Speaker 6: are known shoots up. So the responsible thing to do,
Speaker 6: which is thankfully what has been started to set it
Speaker 6: as a trend, is to give these models to the defenders. First,
Speaker 6: give it to the software companies, give it to the
Speaker 6: banks before you release to the general public. That way
Speaker 6: they can patch all the exploits that it defines. So
Speaker 6: cybersecurity is one issue. Another issue people talk about is
Speaker 6: synthetic biology is a little more speculative. But you know,
Speaker 6: maybe AIS could make people's work in biolabs more dangerous
Speaker 6: for people with less skill, could make something like a
Speaker 6: dangerous kind of germ. But then also in principle, if
Speaker 6: an AI gets smart enough, if it really wants something
Speaker 6: that's bad for humans, you know, something like turning the
Speaker 6: whole world into more computers, then we would have a
Speaker 6: problem with.
Speaker 5: That, right of course. Okay, yeah, my special guest on
Speaker 5: Guys Guys Radio today, agg Liu and his Agg's partner Ashwari.
Speaker 5: How are PhD put together in this wonderful book and
Speaker 5: it's called The Handy Artificial Intelligence answer Book. You folks
Speaker 5: did a great job with Italy. Fantastic and I'm reading
Speaker 5: it at the same time as my thirteen year old son,
Speaker 5: and we can just open up a question or ask
Speaker 5: a question, look it up and the answer is there.
Speaker 5: It's just it's really fantastic. And I urge everybody to
Speaker 5: get a copy of this because you really want to
Speaker 5: learn about this. This is going to be part of
Speaker 5: our lives and it's up to us how we use it.
Speaker 5: You mentioned agg finding little holes and things, and I
Speaker 5: was reading about medicine how artificial intelligence can help medicine
Speaker 5: where maybe they read a scan or something and they
Speaker 5: can pick things out ahead of time that traditionally that
Speaker 5: the physicians may not be able to see. Talk to
Speaker 5: us a little bit about that, because that's a really
Speaker 5: good thing, and is there an issue with that that
Speaker 5: maybe because sometimes AI is wrong.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So I'd say bedisine is one of the
Speaker 6: areas people are most optimistic about when it comes to AI.
Speaker 6: This is one of the areas where we think it's
Speaker 6: going to be a great tool. It's already starting to
Speaker 6: be a great tool because is an area where your
Speaker 6: body is so complicated. There's so many little systems. There's
Speaker 6: so much that could be changed by something like a
Speaker 6: medicine or something by a treatment like a surgery or
Speaker 6: something like that. And having a machine like an AI
Speaker 6: that's very good at finding patterns and data that's sort
Speaker 6: of its fundamental job, makes it a lot easier in
Speaker 6: principle at least to diagnose things. Like they could work
Speaker 6: with a radiologist looking at an X ray and see, okay,
Speaker 6: maybe I can flag little points on the X ray
Speaker 6: image that the radiolgists might want to look at further.
Speaker 6: Or it could help look at what your specific symptoms are,
Speaker 6: what your specific test results are, and find is there
Speaker 6: a drug out there in the world already that can
Speaker 6: treat your disease maybe better than it would be able
Speaker 6: to treat someone else with a vaguely similar but not
Speaker 6: quite the same disease. Already in clinical trials, you know,
Speaker 6: people are testing medicines that AI has come up with.
Speaker 6: The AIS searched through all the possible chemicals and seen
Speaker 6: what might actually be helpful to our bodies that are
Speaker 6: hurtful to it.
Speaker 5: At that same on the same note, a g G
Speaker 5: is a AI being used to find holistic cures, if
Speaker 5: you will, for maladies that people have. Because I was
Speaker 5: watching the news this morning and one of the guys,
Speaker 5: some science or you know, medical expert, came on and
Speaker 5: was touting AI developed vaccines. Now, depending on how you
Speaker 5: feel about vaccines, some people yeah, no way and uh
Speaker 5: and now they're going to use this against us, and
Speaker 5: other people are like, oh, that's great. What's your take
Speaker 5: on AI being I guess a lot of it depends
Speaker 5: on who's behind challenging AI to come up with stuff,
Speaker 5: and so I guess the question is how's that being done?
Speaker 5: And are they looking for natural stuff as well as
Speaker 5: you know, farmer based solutions When it comes.
Speaker 6: To of course, of course, you know, I'd say there's
Speaker 6: there's nothing saying AI has to do one exact approach
Speaker 6: to META. You know, there's nothing in the systems that
Speaker 6: are saying it has to follow this farming based approach.
Speaker 6: The way you're talking about, you know, people are talking
Speaker 6: about using it to help people's mental health, to help
Speaker 6: people's wellness in their exercise programs or in their general lifestyles,
Speaker 6: or you could even look at it, you know, to
Speaker 6: find remedies in nature that kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 6: are there plants out there or are their animals or
Speaker 6: other sorts of you know, mushrooms I don't know that
Speaker 6: have have these these useful properties, you know. And so again,
Speaker 6: AI is a very good pattern matching tool. It can
Speaker 6: find patterns and data, it can find information that you
Speaker 6: might overlook. And so yeah, I'd say definitely there's a
Speaker 6: great capability to help with with wellness beyond just targeted
Speaker 6: drugs and surgeries and things like that.
Speaker 5: Now, an obvious area where AI can help but also
Speaker 5: possibly replace human jobs is through customer service. I went
Speaker 5: on I had I had a question. I got a
Speaker 5: bill from the DMV and they had this is a
Speaker 5: license fee and this is a registration fee out here
Speaker 5: in California for a least vehicle. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: my license is up at the end of the year.
Speaker 5: Is this refer to that or whatever? So I went
Speaker 5: on the A I went onto the website and an
Speaker 5: AI chatbot came up and I actually put in exactly
Speaker 5: what my situation was and they answered it perfectly. It
Speaker 5: was a lot better instead of my usually going like
Speaker 5: representative representative. You know, I got the AI and they
Speaker 5: were they just nailed it, and it took me half
Speaker 5: the time. I didn't have to wait. I you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not super clear all the time, and they understood
Speaker 5: exactly what I wanted and it gave me the correct answer. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think that's an awesome use. Kidn't thought it worked
Speaker 6: for you. I'd say that there's there is an interesting
Speaker 6: question there, which is AI is very good, say ninety
Speaker 6: nine percent of the time, and then occasionally it'll run
Speaker 6: across something that it can't generalize its training data to
Speaker 6: to something your new situation as as easily. So I
Speaker 6: think it's very good to maybe have a sort of
Speaker 6: like the first person you interact with or person in
Speaker 6: big air quotes, right, you have that opportunity to have
Speaker 6: the AI talk to you and see if it can
Speaker 6: answer your question quickly, and if maybe the AA is
Speaker 6: not sure what's going on, or you have some more
Speaker 6: additional questions that you're not sure if it's answering correctly,
Speaker 6: then you have the opportunity to speak to a person.
Speaker 6: I think that would be a very good system. With
Speaker 6: the level that ais are now maybe in the future
Speaker 6: they'll become, you know, even more reliable and we can
Speaker 6: actually use them one hundred percent of the time. But
Speaker 6: I'm I'm glad that you're talking about, you know, using
Speaker 6: AIS to talk to people directly, because you know, even
Speaker 6: in customer services one area. Another area is like if
Speaker 6: you imagine in medicine, if you have someone who's like
Speaker 6: a doctor or a rural area and they can have
Speaker 6: the AI check in with patients first and then refer
Speaker 6: to them anything that they need to make decisions about
Speaker 6: with their human judgment and so so really having the
Speaker 6: AI augment humans and these these interactions with people, I
Speaker 6: think is an interesting and fruitful area.
Speaker 5: So it's another layer that can actually help us.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, and I think for the moment, and
Speaker 6: again this may change as AI continue to develop. The
Speaker 6: best way for you to be using AI is to
Speaker 6: augment your human judgment, your human decisions, and your human abilities.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is just like one example of it, but
Speaker 6: there's lots of examples all over the place.
Speaker 5: That's fantastic and I think it comes at the right
Speaker 5: time because I don't know if you agree or disagree,
Speaker 5: but a lot of people aren't very good at their
Speaker 5: jobs nowadays, nor do they care that much. And a
Speaker 5: lot of people are real layered at their jobs. So
Speaker 5: this is just another layer that can be helpful and
Speaker 5: actually I think can save time. I think let's talk
Speaker 5: about some of the workplace. There's certain jobs, like you know,
Speaker 5: you go to a law firm and you have all
Speaker 5: these associates and they spend all the time in the
Speaker 5: library and all that and all these hours. That's going
Speaker 5: to change and I don't know if those folks are needed,
Speaker 5: but what is needed in the legal professional least. I
Speaker 5: just use this as an example of how AI can
Speaker 5: do certain things and not other things. You're still going
Speaker 5: to have to have a kick ass trial lawyer, and
Speaker 5: you can't put AI right now. You can't put AI
Speaker 5: in a robot and put it in front of a jury.
Speaker 5: You've got to have somebody within charisma who knows how
Speaker 5: to make that emotional connection with a jury in an audience.
Speaker 5: So some people are going to be even higher valued
Speaker 5: and other people maybe their jobs will go away, or
Speaker 5: maybe they'll have to work with AR or whatever. How
Speaker 5: do you see the is it an industry by industry
Speaker 5: case where the model in terms of how much AI
Speaker 5: and how much human is going to work in some
Speaker 5: instances where do you see more people, more jobs coming
Speaker 5: out of the use of AI. I know I threw
Speaker 5: it a lot at you.
Speaker 6: But okay, I'll take it one step at a time. So, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a lot of talk about AI and job laws
Speaker 6: and if you can imagine previous ways of automation, something
Speaker 6: like the Industrial Revolution when least first had steam engines
Speaker 6: instead of happening to you know, weave cloth ourselves, it
Speaker 6: really changed the nature of work and there was a
Speaker 6: time period where a lot of people lost their jobs
Speaker 6: before they were able to find new ones and find
Speaker 6: new opportunities in this industrial economy. And so the same
Speaker 6: way right now, we could have that same scenario. Right
Speaker 6: A lot of jobs that currently exist are going to
Speaker 6: be very different or potentially non existent because of the
Speaker 6: way AI is. So, like you said, all those paralegals
Speaker 6: out in the trying to research things in the library
Speaker 6: and so forth, like that, their job is going to
Speaker 6: be different, and maybe there'll be fewer of them needed
Speaker 6: per law firm. But there's a really interesting story about
Speaker 6: ATMs and bank tellers that people like to tell, which
Speaker 6: is that once ATMs were first invented. Everyone's like, okay,
Speaker 6: that's it, We're not going to have any bank tellers anymore.
Speaker 6: But actually, for a couple decades the number of bank
Speaker 6: tellers actually increased. Really yeah. And the weird reason it
Speaker 6: turns out is that because ATMs made it cheaper to
Speaker 6: operate a bank branch and people wanted more bank branches
Speaker 6: closer to them, all of a sudden, there'll be fewer
Speaker 6: tellers per branch, but now they were more branches, so
Speaker 6: it made up for that. And so there's the same
Speaker 6: phenomena might happen with this way of automation, with this
Speaker 6: kind of AI. If you work in a kind of
Speaker 6: job that people might want a lot more of. So
Speaker 6: if you are a nurse or a physician's assistant, you know,
Speaker 6: people might if they became richer or if they had
Speaker 6: more free time on their hands, but they might want
Speaker 6: to have more medicine, you know, to help them be
Speaker 6: healthier and live longer and so forth, or you know,
Speaker 6: holistic medicine like you said as well, if you're in
Speaker 6: something like that, then maybe this will apply to your
Speaker 6: job too. Maybe the kinds of things you'll doing will change.
Speaker 6: You won't be doing as many other routine stuff that
Speaker 6: is easy for the AI to do, but the remaining
Speaker 6: parts of the job, your judgment, your interaction with people,
Speaker 6: those kinds of things might become even more in demand.
Speaker 6: So yeah, so there's those kinds of jobs where they
Speaker 6: grow an opportunity as the AI gets better. And there's
Speaker 6: also kinds of jobs like with physical manual labor, things
Speaker 6: like being a welder, or things like being a plumber
Speaker 6: or an ash fact technician where it's very hard to
Speaker 6: train an AI to do that right now because douse
Speaker 6: the AIS need lots and lots of data and there
Speaker 6: isn't just lots of data on exactly where to put
Speaker 6: your hands, and there's not the robots that can be
Speaker 6: those hands for the AI.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you could use let's say
Speaker 5: you're a plumber. Maybe you can't get a robot right
Speaker 5: now to go under the sink and fix a leaky pipe,
Speaker 5: but the plumber could refer to AI to get the
Speaker 5: right answers to what part they might need, what branch
Speaker 5: they might need, something where on the fly, you know,
Speaker 5: they might have to be a lot of trial and error,
Speaker 5: and having the AI as a researcher could really help
Speaker 5: them and they could do a better job.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, even as you know, a writer, I'm
Speaker 6: a little bit of a different job. But I often
Speaker 6: will go to AI, not to actually write things for me,
Speaker 6: but to say, hey, can you give me some sources
Speaker 6: I can look at? Can you give me some ways
Speaker 6: I might want to phrase this. I might not pick
Speaker 6: the one that it chooses, but I might use it
Speaker 6: as inspiration. You know, there's a lot of ways right
Speaker 6: now you can use AI to augment your job, and
Speaker 6: I think if you could learn how to do that
Speaker 6: right now, you'll be in a more advantageous place as
Speaker 6: AI continues to develop.
Speaker 5: Absolutely my special guest agg Lu right here on Guys
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Speaker 5: Fantastic. Well, you stepped up. You've done a very impressive job.
Speaker 5: Thank you. Education. Let's talk about education a little bit.
Speaker 5: My wife spent many years in education at the very
Speaker 5: high levels in New York City, been part of the
Speaker 5: Principles program through Mayor Bloomberg, and also was a kind
Speaker 5: of a coach for teachers in various school systems in
Speaker 5: tough neighborhoods. And she asked me about this, what do
Speaker 5: you see the role of AI in terms of you've
Speaker 5: got on one hand, you've got the role of teachers
Speaker 5: has changed and that they have to have like a
Speaker 5: common standard, just like in medicine where they have to
Speaker 5: teach a certain way certain things and that's it. And
Speaker 5: how will AI impact that? Is that a good thing
Speaker 5: or not? And then from what I see when I
Speaker 5: was talking to you have well, students are using AI
Speaker 5: to get to do their tests and the teachers are
Speaker 5: using AI to grade us and reports. That seems like
Speaker 5: a really fluid situation at GIGI.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's something that's changing very quickly in real time.
Speaker 6: I would say we've come across similar problems like this before.
Speaker 6: You know, if you are a math teacher and you've
Speaker 6: you know, been in this for fifty years, and you
Speaker 6: know someone who's been it for fifty years or was
Speaker 6: there fifty years ago, you know what calculators first came
Speaker 6: onto the scene. That totally changed the game of math teaching.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, you know, it was useful still
Speaker 6: to teach people how to add, subtract, multiply, but it
Speaker 6: wasn't the bl and do all of everything anymore. All
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you could unlock because these students have
Speaker 6: access to this calculator, some new ways of teaching some
Speaker 6: new topics that they might not be able to do
Speaker 6: or that might not be able to cover in as
Speaker 6: much depth without it. Similarly, we're going to have to
Speaker 6: adapt to AI because it's it's out there in the workplace.
Speaker 6: If you want to teach kids how to you know,
Speaker 6: do their actual job, they're going to be able to
Speaker 6: use AI. It's going to be there inaccessible to them
Speaker 6: for you know, ninety nine point nine percent of people.
Speaker 6: So I think that you know, the English teachers grading essays,
Speaker 6: are people grading tests and things like that, they need
Speaker 6: to adapt the same way the math teachers did. And
Speaker 6: maybe we'll have a good way at some point of saying, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, don't use AI on this one question because
Speaker 6: we're going to be watching you in class, and so
Speaker 6: we want to prove that you can do it. But
Speaker 6: once we know you can do it, maybe you're allowed
Speaker 6: to use the AI and sort of critique its answers,
Speaker 6: you know, say, use your own judgment again for determining
Speaker 6: whether the AI said something that's worthwhile or not worthwhile.
Speaker 6: And it's it's really something that's going to take a
Speaker 6: lot of adaptation, and you know, the school system takes
Speaker 6: us a long time to adapt, So it's gonna it's
Speaker 6: gonna be a little bit tough during those those year
Speaker 6: as well as happening. But if you're as if you're
Speaker 6: a teacher and you're listening to this, I'd say, you know,
Speaker 6: try and see if you can work AI into your classroom,
Speaker 6: and not just on a service level, but on a
Speaker 6: way where it's actually contributing to the student's understanding of
Speaker 6: this new tool in their life.
Speaker 5: Great idea in terms of accreditations with AI. So everybody
Speaker 5: needs to learn how to use AI, just like everybody
Speaker 5: had to learn how to use the Internet, and everybody
Speaker 5: has to learn an email and all of that stuff
Speaker 5: at the very beginning. So what what would be the
Speaker 5: good steps in terms of somebody they want to get
Speaker 5: comfortable with AI? Should they take a coursive course or something?
Speaker 5: Is that necessary? How do you start using it to
Speaker 5: have a skill that you can leverage Because I got
Speaker 5: to think that everybody who goes for a job nowadays
Speaker 5: is going to be asked about AI and how do
Speaker 5: you prove you're good at it versus somebody else? Do
Speaker 5: you need it? Do you need accreditation?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: So I don't know if it's going to be you know,
Speaker 6: a formal coursework accreditation situation. I think there that might
Speaker 6: turn out to be something that people find useful. But
Speaker 6: if you want to get started using AI in your
Speaker 6: job or in your life, you can just go online
Speaker 6: to the AI websites. You know, the big ones. Claude,
Speaker 6: You've got Chatchy Bete, You've got Gemini from Google. And
Speaker 6: if you start interacting with it, and you interact with
Speaker 6: it knowing that it's an imperfect tool, but it's still
Speaker 6: pretty good at a lot of things you can learn
Speaker 6: over time just by by doing basically, and so you
Speaker 6: can have those conversations with AI. You can maybe give
Speaker 6: it a task that's not super important that you could
Speaker 6: maybe redo if you need to, and see what it's
Speaker 6: good at and what it's not good at compared to
Speaker 6: your specific job, to your specific kinds of jobs that
Speaker 6: you are interested in doing and are able to do.
Speaker 6: And and yeah, there's there's a lot you can do
Speaker 6: in terms of just trying the thing and seeing if
Speaker 6: it works. I'm always a fan of hands on learning.
Speaker 6: That's just my style. I agree, I agree, yeah, but
Speaker 6: if you go ahead, oh yeah, of course. But yeah,
Speaker 6: but I think that they're I mean, obviously we've got
Speaker 6: my book. I'm happy for you to read it if
Speaker 6: you want to learn about it there, but there's also
Speaker 6: online resources and various other kinds of guides people have,
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure exactly which ones are the most useful.
Speaker 6: Besides you know the one that I wrote. I have
Speaker 6: a little bias there.
Speaker 5: Well, let's talk and you did a great job, so
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Speaker 6: How are yes? Am I co author?
Speaker 5: So now there's you mentioned three of the AI big brands.
Speaker 5: If you will, Chat, Yes, quawd, and Google has what's
Speaker 5: Google Gemini? Gemini? Okay, so what is the for people
Speaker 5: out there who are not sure? I mean, everybody steps in,
Speaker 5: they tiptoe in, and they play around with chat and
Speaker 5: they do the free version. So let's talk about chat first.
Speaker 5: What's chat good at? And is should you go beyond
Speaker 5: the free version? And if so, why would you need
Speaker 5: to go beyond the free version?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Of course. So the difference between the free version of
Speaker 6: the paid version is which model you're using and how
Speaker 6: long it's allowed to process for basically. So one of
Speaker 6: the things that's been discovered since chat GPT first came
Speaker 6: onlines you know, in the past few years, is that
Speaker 6: you can have an AI model think through its actions
Speaker 6: word by word, be like, okay, write down step by
Speaker 6: step what you plan to do, what you're thinking at
Speaker 6: any given moment, And because that basically gives it more
Speaker 6: time to think, it actually does produce a better result
Speaker 6: in a lot of different cases. So if you're using
Speaker 6: the free version, I'm not sure what the details were
Speaker 6: at any given moment because they keep changing the pricing system.
Speaker 6: But often when you're using the free version, it is
Speaker 6: a limit to how long it can think through that thing.
Speaker 6: It's called a chain of thought. I mean, there's limit
Speaker 6: to how longest chain of thought can be. You may
Speaker 6: be using a model that's older or a model that
Speaker 6: is easier to run on their data center, whereas if
Speaker 6: you're doing the paid version, they'll give you access to
Speaker 6: like a like a beefier one. They'll let you have
Speaker 6: it think for longer. And often that means if it's
Speaker 6: trying to do some analytical tasks, something like processing a
Speaker 6: spreadsheet or something like that, it can actually do that better,
Speaker 6: and you'll maybe at'll design its own spreadsheet functions and
Speaker 6: so forth if it has that bigger model, if it
Speaker 6: has that longer time to think. And this really applies
Speaker 6: to any of the big ones, so any whether you're
Speaker 6: using chat GBT or Cloud or geminis, it's all pretty
Speaker 6: similar in that vein. I think the reputation is that
Speaker 6: Cloud is better with hard elical tasks, things like you know,
Speaker 6: trying to design your own program or spreadeet or something
Speaker 6: like that, and Chat gypt is a little bit better
Speaker 6: with like emotional task or creative tasks. But they're all
Speaker 6: pretty similar in that regard. I'd say which one uses
Speaker 6: a lot and you know to do with your personal preference.
Speaker 6: Just try them all out and see which one works
Speaker 6: and which ones you can afford to pay for if
Speaker 6: you want to.
Speaker 5: So I guess, for instance, I'm working on a book proposal.
Speaker 5: I wanted to do the proposal. I've written the proposal.
Speaker 5: I was thinking maybe I should just shove it into
Speaker 5: chat EBT and see what it comes out back with.
Speaker 5: Maybe you'll have some ideas and I can tweak some things.
Speaker 5: How would how that's just an example of how you
Speaker 5: know users, let chat do the work, or you do
Speaker 5: the work and let Chat take a look at it.
Speaker 5: So if you have let's say you have a document,
Speaker 5: how do you put it in and how do you
Speaker 5: get what prompts? Because everybody, everything I read, it's all
Speaker 5: about all these prompts like read and this and that,
Speaker 5: all these the code words that you're supposed to use
Speaker 5: to get the best information. Back talk to us a
Speaker 5: little bit about you know both both of those things,
Speaker 5: the prompts and also how do you input something to
Speaker 5: get the best response.
Speaker 6: Okay, So a lot of the websites now, ones like
Speaker 6: Claude is the one I use the most, but also
Speaker 6: chat GPT and I believe all said Gemini. You can
Speaker 6: attach it as a file the same way you would
Speaker 6: attach it to an email. You could even just copy
Speaker 6: paste the entire thing right into the chat textbus okay,
Speaker 6: and it'll be able to read that. In terms of prompts,
Speaker 6: this is an interesting one. Prompts you want to emphasize
Speaker 6: to the AI. Remember, the AI is trying to match patterns.
Speaker 6: It's trying to look at the text you gave it
Speaker 6: and see what someone answering a question on that text
Speaker 6: with the question that you asked would actually say. And
Speaker 6: so the better question you can ask, the better result
Speaker 6: you're going to get. So if you want to say, hey,
Speaker 6: I just want it, if you just want it to
Speaker 6: check your grammar and your spelling, then just tell it
Speaker 6: that in normal English words, you know, in detail. Maybe
Speaker 6: the way you'd explain to yours like clean up.
Speaker 5: They could clean up a document for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, say please clean up this document.
Speaker 6: Even you can do multiple senses, Please clean up this document.
Speaker 6: I'd like you to check the spelling and the grammar,
Speaker 6: especially in these particular ways. And you can even say
Speaker 6: something like and I want it to sound formal, or
Speaker 6: I want it to sound personal, or I want it
Speaker 6: to sound something like that. And they're actually really good
Speaker 6: at reading these regular English descriptions. So if you don't
Speaker 6: know the magic keywords to make the prompt do what
Speaker 6: you want, the reasonably good thing to do that that
Speaker 6: still works is just describe exactly what it is you
Speaker 6: want in as many sentences as you need, because these
Speaker 6: things can pay attention to, you know, a whole document
Speaker 6: at a time. If you have a paragraph of instructions,
Speaker 6: they have no problem with that.
Speaker 5: How about these codes that I keep reading about and
Speaker 5: I see people pop up on social media. Here's the
Speaker 5: five code you need to know to get the most
Speaker 5: out of JATGBT, I'm like, although I really need to
Speaker 5: so I like my bookmarket and then I forget about it.
Speaker 5: But are these things important? And what are they?
Speaker 6: What's the I haven't found them super important myself. So
Speaker 6: I notice that among people who are heavy users of AI,
Speaker 6: so people who I know who use it the most,
Speaker 6: what they'll often do is give the prompt because so
Speaker 6: when they're asking the question, basically this is what we
Speaker 6: mean by the prompt, they'll give the AI these questions
Speaker 6: and descriptions about the kinds of formating, and they're like,
Speaker 6: you know, do you want to give me just the
Speaker 6: information and bullet points, or please give me a longer
Speaker 6: paragraph describing this in detail, or please give me sources
Speaker 6: that I can go look at myself. But they'll they'll
Speaker 6: basically have a few of these typed paragraphs already and
Speaker 6: they'll just paste one right in and then edit it
Speaker 6: to be the specific instructions for their specific question. And
Speaker 6: it's not a magic box. It is a tool that
Speaker 6: we don't it's a toil that we don't understand perfectly
Speaker 6: exactly all the details of the inside, but it's a
Speaker 6: tool that we know overall, matches patterns and tries to
Speaker 6: answer questions according to the patterns inside of it. Of
Speaker 6: its head there, So yeah, you can just talk to
Speaker 6: it a lot like you talked to a person. Talk
Speaker 6: to someone who may not have experience with exactly what
Speaker 6: you're dealing with, or may not know you very well.
Speaker 6: But you can just give them instructions in normal English
Speaker 6: language and it'll follow those reasonably well.
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry, So do you said the code words
Speaker 5: are super important or are non important?
Speaker 6: The code words are not very important if you can
Speaker 6: make a good alternative, which is just describing it.
Speaker 5: So you can if you can articulate what you want, just.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't need any code words for that. If
Speaker 6: you can articulate what you want, then you're good.
Speaker 5: All right. Wow, you're doing such an amazing job. Agg
Speaker 5: Thank you. Could you just take a few minutes and
Speaker 5: tell everybody out there what they really you're an expert
Speaker 5: in the field. Tell everybody what they need to know
Speaker 5: about AI and what's the best way for them to
Speaker 5: get started?
Speaker 6: All right, So you can get started by talking to it.
Speaker 6: You can go online, you can go to one of
Speaker 6: these things, you can talk to it, and you can
Speaker 6: see what it feels like, see what kinds of things
Speaker 6: that's good at, and what kinds of things it's bad at.
Speaker 6: Over all the things that you need to know. It's
Speaker 6: a pattern recognition machine. It matches language, and it's very
Speaker 6: very good at matching language, which is why it sounds
Speaker 6: so coherent, why it's very good at answering people's questions.
Speaker 6: It's getting better over time. So if you tried it
Speaker 6: back when chat GPT first came out in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 6: you're going to have a different experience with it now,
Speaker 6: and it's going to be even smarter in the future.
Speaker 6: You know, this is as dumb as it will ever be,
Speaker 6: as the saying that it goes. And also it's something
Speaker 6: that we need to make sure is safe going forward,
Speaker 6: both in terms of people misusing it to cause trouble,
Speaker 6: whether that's with cyber attacks or whether that's with bioin
Speaker 6: areas or anything like that, or in principle, if the
Speaker 6: AI gets out of our control, you know, if it
Speaker 6: starts going maybe exactly like something like Terminator, but it's
Speaker 6: something that is on people's minds. There are people who
Speaker 6: care about this kind of safety and the people who
Speaker 6: are working on it.
Speaker 5: Now. If you sign up for it, like I signed
Speaker 5: up for the free version of Chat a little while ago,
Speaker 5: does it automatically upgrade to the newer versions? Or do
Speaker 5: I have to upgrade on my own to do anything?
Speaker 6: You don't really have to do very much. It'll it'll
Speaker 6: automatically get to the new versions on its own. If
Speaker 6: you want an even newer version than the free version
Speaker 6: can rerovide, you can subscribe to the paid version. Obviously
Speaker 6: you aren't powerful itself, but yeah, so it's it's it's
Speaker 6: like Google. You know, if Google makes an update to itself,
Speaker 6: you just still go to Google dot com and type
Speaker 6: in your search. It'll do the same thing.
Speaker 5: There is there any concern, last question, with your personal
Speaker 5: information and some of the things you're asking maybe yes,
Speaker 5: a legal situation. You're asking some questions about how to
Speaker 5: handle a specific situation or case, and you don't want
Speaker 5: them because if somebody is holding on to this information.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, someone is holding onto this information, so, especially
Speaker 6: if you're using the free version. One of the ways
Speaker 6: the companies sort of help pay for that is they'll
Speaker 6: take your chance and they will use that training data
Speaker 6: as as training data for the next version. So there
Speaker 6: have been a couple of high profile cases where some
Speaker 6: companies someone isn't using it correctly and they don't understand
Speaker 6: that You're data isn't private by the time you put
Speaker 6: it in there, and you know there's at least something important,
Speaker 6: and that's always always a danger. So if you're really
Speaker 6: worried about that, you can look into services where you
Speaker 6: can run it, you know, your own version of chat
Speaker 6: EPT that doesn't go to the training data that usually
Speaker 6: costs money. Or you can be careful what the kinds
Speaker 6: of questions that you ask it. You know, give it,
Speaker 6: don't give all the specific details that would be privacy violating.
Speaker 5: Got it? The power problems an impact of artificial intelligence?
Speaker 5: My special guest on Guys Guys Radio, agg LU, you
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Speaker 5: I just this is the this is the tip of
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Speaker 6: All right. So this book, the Handy Artificial Intelligence answer
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Speaker 5: Fantastic, Well, great job, thanks so much. I hope you'll
Speaker 5: come back and best of luck with the book and
Speaker 5: all the work you're doing because you're terrific.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It's Guys Guy Radio, all right.
Speaker 5: A fascinating conversation and we only were at the kind
Speaker 5: of the tip of the iceberg about artificial intelligence with
Speaker 5: agglu who did. I think a masterful job and putting
Speaker 5: this book together, and also it's a great reference book
Speaker 5: and also just giving us a great overview on AI,
Speaker 5: how it's different than traditional computers and coding and databases
Speaker 5: and what we need to be aware of and how
Speaker 5: we need to learn how to use AI as the
Speaker 5: tool that's going to become a part of our lives
Speaker 5: for the rest of our lives, so it's a good
Speaker 5: time to kind of educate yourself. Also talked about, you know,
Speaker 5: how the computers and AI are different. Why is data
Speaker 5: considered more important than algorithms in AI? Some of the
Speaker 5: things that AI will be able to do for us,
Speaker 5: and some of the things where it won't be able
Speaker 5: to replace the human element, and some areas where it can. So,
Speaker 5: as we mentioned earlier, AI is a tool, so it's
Speaker 5: going to replace some services, but it's also going to
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Speaker 5: you could start with this book, which is fantastic. It's
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Speaker 5: It's a great tool and you can have a lot
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Speaker 8: NBC News Radio. I'm Lisa Carton. President Trump says today's
Speaker 8: strikes on Iran is retribution for yesterday's bombing up ships
Speaker 8: by Iran. The President goes on to warn in a
Speaker 8: truth social post, if it happens again, it will get
Speaker 8: much worse. US Central Command says, by order of the President,
Speaker 8: forces have started conducting additional strikes against Iran to further
Speaker 8: degrade their ability to threaten freedom of navigation in the
Speaker 8: Strait of Hormuz. Speaking at the NATO summit today in Turkey,
Speaker 8: Trump said there would be more strikes. At least twenty
Speaker 8: eight people are injured after a bus smashed into several
Speaker 8: cars and into a building tonight in Maryland. It happened
Speaker 8: in Pikesville, a suburb of Baltimore, and the Baltimore County
Speaker 8: Fire Department is calling it a mess casualty incident. The
Speaker 8: crash involved in Maryland Transit Administration bus. One person is
Speaker 8: reported critical. Several police and fire units are on the scene.
Speaker 8: It's not known what led to the crash. A video
Speaker 8: statement from the roommate and romantic partner of Charlie Kirk's
Speaker 8: acused killer will be played in court on Thursday. More
Speaker 8: from Chris Garraggio.
Speaker 9: The audio of Lance Twiggs is part of the prosecution's
Speaker 9: case against Tyler Robinson that's been laid out during a
Speaker 9: week long evidentiary hearing in Utah. Robinson reportedly confessed to
Speaker 9: Twiggs about the murder. The judge is set to decide
Speaker 9: if there's enough evidence against him to proceed to trial.
Speaker 8: Today. The defense objected to playing the interview, saying it
Speaker 8: will violate Robinson's right to a fair trial, but the
Speaker 8: judge ruled that can be played with some redactions. At
Speaker 8: the hearings end, the judge will decide if there's enough
Speaker 8: evidence against Robinson to proceed to trial. Graham Platner is
Speaker 8: dropping out of the race for Maine's US Senate seat.
Speaker 8: The Democrat announced his decision following a recent sexual assault allegation.
Speaker 8: In a report by Politico, a woman who dated Platner
Speaker 8: accused him of forcing her to have sex with him
Speaker 8: almost five years ago despite repeated objections. The accusations, which
Speaker 8: Plattner has denied, caused him to lose the backing of
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Speaker 8: Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer is requesting an update on Senator
Speaker 8: Mitch McConnell's health. Questions have been raised about McConnell's status
Speaker 8: after he was found unconscious at his Washington, DC home
Speaker 8: on June fourteenth due to a possible heart attack. Basher
Speaker 8: says he sent a letter to McConnell's office requesting an
Speaker 8: update on his health and well being. A Miami judge
Speaker 8: has overruled a privacy objection by the owners of the
Speaker 8: Icon Brickle condominium in a wrongful death lawsuit. Karen Curtis
Speaker 8: reports the judge.
Speaker 12: Ordered Maria to release all security footage on the day
Speaker 12: seventeen year old Dominic Farrell was stabbed to death inside
Speaker 12: his condo a year ago. Plaintive attorney Thomas Hasty says
Speaker 12: he needs to see who was in charge of safety.
Speaker 6: We had the detective's deposition and what he said was
Speaker 6: he went in a week after this and he was
Speaker 6: able to penetrate the hotel, walk around for forty five minutes.
Speaker 5: No one approached him a.
Speaker 6: Week after this murder, so we do have concerns about
Speaker 6: the security plan.
Speaker 12: The victim's parents accused the Icon Brickle owners of negligence
Speaker 12: due to lacks security protocols and claimed the killing was preventable.
Speaker 8: The son of an illegal immigrant killed by ICE agents
Speaker 8: in Houston is demanding an investigation.
Speaker 6: He did not deserve to be reduced to a headline.
Speaker 8: Rolando Salgado says his dad was in the process of
Speaker 8: obtaining a work permit and was not a criminal. He
Speaker 8: was driving to a construction site in what the FEDS
Speaker 8: are calling a targeted in Horseman operation, and I spokesperson
Speaker 8: says Lorenzo Salgado rammed their car, refused to follow orders,
Speaker 8: and was shot when he tried to run over an
Speaker 8: ice agent at Des Moines, Iowa. Man is in custody
Speaker 8: after police say he robbed a man and then forced
Speaker 8: him to do push ups. Clara Burnett explains.
Speaker 13: Please say twenty eight year old Anthony Leggins approached a
Speaker 13: forty four year old man near twelve in Mulberry Streets
Speaker 13: and asked for a cigarette. When the man said he
Speaker 13: did not smoke, Investigators say Liggins forced him to the ground,
Speaker 13: took cash, and then ordered him to do push ups.
Speaker 8: Liggins was arrested and charged with robbery and false imprisonment.
Speaker 8: Lisa carton NBC News Radio.
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Speaker 8: Org, NBC News Radio. I'm Lisa Carton. President Trump says
Speaker 8: today strikes on Iran is retribution for yesterday's bombing of
Speaker 8: ships by Iran. The President goes on to warn in
Speaker 8: a truth social post, if it happens again, it will
Speaker 8: get much worse. US Central Command says, by order of
Speaker 8: the President, forces have started conducting additional strikes against Iran
Speaker 8: to further degrade their ability to threaten freedom of navigation
Speaker 8: in the Strait of Hormuz. Speaking at the NATO summit
Speaker 8: today in Turkey, Trump said there would be more strikes.
Speaker 8: At least twenty eight people are injured after a bus
Speaker 8: smashed into several cars and into a building tonight in Maryland.
Speaker 8: It happened in Pikesville, a suburb of Baltimore, and the
Speaker 8: Baltimore County Fire Department is calling it a mess casualty incident.
Speaker 8: The crash involved the Maryland Transit Administration bus. One person
Speaker 8: is reported critical. Several police and fire units are on
Speaker 8: the scene. It's not known what led to the crash.
Speaker 8: A video statement from the roommate and romantic partner of
Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk's accused killer will be played in court on Thursday.
Speaker 8: More from Chris Garraggio.
Speaker 9: The audio of Lance Twiggs is part of the prosecute's
Speaker 9: case against Tyler Robinson that's been laid out during a
Speaker 9: week long evidentiary hearing in Utah. Robinson reportedly confessed Twiggs
Speaker 9: about the murder. The judge is set to decide if
Speaker 9: there's enough evidence against him to proceed to trial.
Speaker 8: Today. The defense objected to playing the interview, saying it
Speaker 8: will violate Robinson's right to a fair trial, but the
Speaker 8: judge ruled can be played with some redactions. At the
Speaker 8: hearings end, the judge will decide if there's enough evidence
Speaker 8: against Robinson to proceed to trial. Graham Plattner is dropping
Speaker 8: out of the race for Main's US Senate seat. The
Speaker 8: Democrat announced his decision following a recent sexual assault allegation.
Speaker 8: In a report by Politico, a woman who dated Plattner
Speaker 8: accused him of forcing her to have sex with him
Speaker 8: almost five years ago. Despite repeated objections. The accusations, which
Speaker 8: Plattner has denied, caused him to lose the backing of
Speaker 8: major party figures. You're listening to the latest on NBC
Speaker 8: News Radio.
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Speaker 2: Ten fifty AM. Don't forget that number. And for you
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