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Speaker 1: Grant. It's just time to ask questions. That's what we do,

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that's what we get paid to do. We're just here

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asking questions. And I have a question for him grand

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Should the Lakers trade high sell high on one? Austin

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Speaker 2: We can agree on is that this would be the

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high point, and if it's not, then you can't trade

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him for anything because he's played about as well in

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some respects better than anyone.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking through the numbers.

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Speaker 2: If you care about this stat which maybe you should,

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maybe you shouldn't, still cool to lead the league in

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anything Number one in offensive wind shares so far this season,

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and that's that's pretty good, even if that's a flawed stat.

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So he's been spectacular. I guess the the counter question

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is if they hold on to him, what's he going

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to cost?

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Speaker 1: Right, And it's that would be Isn't that the why

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you would move him? It's because you're worried about affording

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him and reagency, and they can pay him more money

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and years than any other team. It's on the screen

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for people watching on YouTube, but a three year max

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in the Lakers is like one hundred and thirty five million.

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Another team can only give them one hundred and thirty one.

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A four year max in the Lakers about one to

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eighty six or sorry, and then a four year max

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from another team is like one seventy nine, and then

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the Lakers can go to that fifth year, five years,

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two hundred and forty million dollars. There was the report,

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I think it was from ESPN, that that there are

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executives around the league that believe he could be a

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one hundred and eighty million dollar player, which is basically

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saying some team would come in and give him the

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max before we get to the teams that have cap

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space again, because this is we agree that this is

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why you would trade him, is that he's making thirteen

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point nine million this year, he has the player option

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for whatever it is fourteen and change next year. Is

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that you're the Lakers and you don't want to pay

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You think Austin Reeves might be a max player to

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another team, and he's not a max player to your team.

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Speaker 2: So if he's not a max player to you, then

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that means you, I guess he can be a max player.

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But if if you're the Lakers, what your argument is

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portrading him? We already have our extremely high usage on

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ball guy in Luka Doncic. We can't use a max

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salary slot or one of the maybe two that will

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have in addition to Luca on a guy who kind

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of does the same thing. But isn't the counter to that,

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some version of that, Like I guess if you think

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about Kyrie, or you think about the Jalen Brunson Dallas

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era where nothing like what Reeves is doing now, which,

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by the way, just to get it, thirty four points

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a game, leading the league in free throw attempts and makes,

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had a sixteen assist game the other night.

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Speaker 1: Looks that looks like.

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Speaker 2: Game winning floater splitting the defense. Like so it's just

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playing out of his mind. I don't know if it's

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If it's me, I'm looking at that and saying, as

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the Lake, I don't have to go the five two

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forty because nobody else can. So it's a little bit

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like the Siakam situation a few years ago, where all

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you need to do is beat what another team can offer.

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And let's say so the best anyone else can do

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and free agency is four for one hundred and just

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one hundred and seventy nine. So if you can get

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be the Lakers the most they could do on a

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four years four for one eighty five, that should be good.

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And then the question is are you comfortable with that

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number if you're the Lakers and you're getting someone who's

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sort of redundant with Doncic, but also like you need

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a secondary creator right like that? That's that's the push

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and pull of this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that he's just a I can't envision

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him as a MAX player in a vacuum. I honestly

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think don't you believe that he might be more valuable

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to a team that doesn't already have its primary creator?

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but they weren't even paying Kyrie a max salary for

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most of his time in doubt, like de Luca Kyrie,

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like especially if he was there now, I that's just

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so tough. And then but then you look at what

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he's doing when Luca Dacics and Lebron James have missed

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time with the Lakers and defenses are pressing him as

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soon as he gets the ball in the back court.

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at the timeline or earlier. So maybe I just haven't

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caught on to the Austin Reeves bandwacken fully yet the

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idea of him will he be twenty eight twenty nine

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going to that range, so he'll still be in his

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prime for the duration of his next deal. I haven't

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MAX player. I think in large part because the way

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for agency has worked these guys who haven't established themselves

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as stars. It no longer feels like they're a given

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to get a MAX deal or even like, just look

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at we didn't think that Dearn Fox was a given

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to get a MAX extension from the Spurs this past summer.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe the way to stay sane on this,

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and certainly this is what the Lakers would would want

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to be thinking about if they were trying to get

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a number in their heads that was like their walkaway number,

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is let's just pretend these games haven't happened, and let's

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look at last year, where he's getting you twenty a game,

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just under six assists, good efficiency, thirty seven percent of

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his threes, nothing like this year, but still getting to

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the line fairly well for that player type five times

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Speaker 3: What's that guy worth?

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Speaker 2: Right, because you're he's at an age two where this

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looks like a massive leap that he's making, But this

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is his age twenty seven season, Like it's a little

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late for like a leap like that or like this

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to be real. So maybe even you add just a

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little bit to last year's numbers, what's that guy worth?

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That's not a max player? I don't think, and it's

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certainly not a max player for the Lakers, which is

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why this is a compelling question.

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Speaker 3: What is the value?

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Speaker 2: Like we would we agree that they that Luca needs

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a second guy right to create shots like that?

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Speaker 3: Like, you can't it can't truly be him alone?

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Speaker 2: Is that guy? If it's Reeves? Can that be is

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he's certainly worth thirty a year? I think, uh, you

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get up towards forty, which is still below by a

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little bit the three year max the Lakers could offer,

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and it's basically what another team could offer that That's

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where it gets hair like that really is a close

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question to me. If you think this is crazy what

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he's doing this year and he's actually twenty twenty three,

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twenty four, or sorry, twenty four to twenty five Austin Reeves, Like,

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that's where I really don't know.

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Speaker 1: Does he become And look, part of it is we've

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gotten through this with other players in the past to

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where it's why would you give og On Andobi the

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salary that the Knicks did over five years? It's because

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you know there's a four year max out there. And

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so I think part of the question needs to come

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back to is there a team out there that would

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give Austin Reeves the max? And so you look at

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the teams that have cap space projected to have cap

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space this year. Initially Portland was there, but by signing

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Kamara and Sharp to those extensions, they're off the table.

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in addition to the Lakers, by the way, the Nets,

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the Hornets, the Bulls, the Pistons, the Wizards out East,

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and then the Clippers and the Jazz in the Western Conference.

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Is there a team that let's say, let's say Austin

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Reeves settles into an in between from what he was

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last year versus what he's been so far this year,

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and look, depending on how much time. But because The

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other variable in this is once Lebron returns and you

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have these three guys all at once, will Reeves be

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able to put up the same numbers. But let's say

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he's like a twenty four point per game guy and

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five assists, six assists on reasonable efficiency, still killing it,

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and me, aren't he able to draw fouls? Do you

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look at any of these teams and say I could

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see them provided they carve out cap space identifying Reeves

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as a guy that they're willing to go for for

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one point seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: There's one that absolutely leaps off the screen to me.

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And it also happens to be the one you have

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the picture of up which is coincidental. I would have

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said this no matter what it to me, it's clearly

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the Pistons one, because they gotta get secondary creation around

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Kid Cunningham. We don't know if that's gonna be Jade

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and Ivy. That's a free agent decision of its own,

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because he's not getting an extension. Sample size is tiny

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because of the injury last year, he's starting this year.

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because he allows Asar Thompson to just defend and do

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the Usar Thompson stuff. Because he is a good enough

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shooter to be off the ball, because he is a

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good enough obviously based on this year on ball guy

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to handle the non Cunningham minutes. Takes nothing away from

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Cunningham playing together with him, that's the most. And because

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eight season next year is not a deterrent That should

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Speaker 1: They would be. And to get to a number that

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you can max out Reeves, you're probably losing both during

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and I you're definitely loving one of them. You're probably

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not gonna have Ivy on the team anyway. If Austin

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Speaker 3: There, Yeah, that's the easy part. There is no Ivy.

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Speaker 1: I do kind of love his fit in Detroit too.

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and oh maybe Keyante George still looks good, but you

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don't let you want another primary creator there for everyone else.

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even with Keyante George that could work. Are you worried

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about that infringing upon what as Bailey? Because the Clippers,

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based off what they're doing, it feels like they want

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to be more of a year by year team, and

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so signing Austin Reeves for three or four years doesn't

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really jibe with that. The Hornets, man, I guess if

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Brandon Miller's like Austin Reeves feels a little REDUNDI like

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McNeely is William McNeely there as well too. I thought

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about the Nets a little bit, just because they don't

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own their own pick next year, So are they trying

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to do any sort of fest or did they view

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it as well? We could max out Reeves and we

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think that's a tradable contract. We'll sign them and then

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move them later. But the Jazz to me were the

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second most interesting team on this have a ton of

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cap space, but how how quickly are they going to

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they feel kind of natsy to me, and

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that it's a little early for a late twenties at

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that by this time next year, a high dollar signing

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guy the Jazz just because they they have marketing. So

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it's kind of like, well, we're already comfortable with guys

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that are outside our timeline and the market. In Reeves

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pairing as a core, that's pretty interesting offensively, and if

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if Kessler is back, then there's your defensive anchor. I

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don't feel like Reeves takes anything away if you're trying

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to develop Keyante George if he sustains what he's done

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so far this season, and you don't need to make

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a decision on George just yet anyway, So I think

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the Jazz fit there, maybe just as a as a

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third place finisher, aren't the bulls? Kind of like that,

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wouldn't he make sense there? If Kobe White's gone, he

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can play with Giddy like, are you not a great fit?

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capsuvations decided to pay because what is Reeves has been?

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Reeves has been better, a lot better. Who who are

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you more comfortable giving let's just use four and one

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seventy nine to at this point. Is it Austin Reeves

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or Kobe White? I think that's actually probably a real discussion.

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But for the Bulls, what type of message does that

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send if you're just going from Kobe White to Austin Reeves?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Reeves is I think Reeves is

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a better player than White. Maybe maybe not so much

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that like I wouldn't consider White at all for like

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anything close to the numbers you had on the screen

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for Reeves, and maybe Reeves doesn't get those, but I'd

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feel more comfortable with Reeves getting getting something like that.

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The Wizards are interesting because if you're bringing him in

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for what it's gonna cost, you're you're not giving up,

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but you're saying either bub Carrington's not a starter going forward,

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or Trey Johnson is probably not a starter going forward

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because he's gonna right.

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Speaker 3: You could kind of use.

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Speaker 2: Him in either one of those positions, which and that'd

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be fine. I think based on what we've seen, Austin

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Reeves can be a point guard like and just forget

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the combo guard stuff, and maybe that's where he's most valuable.

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But if I'm the Wizards, I'm I guess it's easier

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for me to say I'm Carrington's gonna lose that spot

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because I don't know, he never really projected. I don't

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think anyone thought he was gonna be a star. Maybe

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Johnson doesn't really have that ceiling either, But because we've

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seen less of Johnson, we're less certain about that. You know,

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that's the problem you run into with all the young teams.

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In addition to like why are you spending on a

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twenty seven year old, it's who are we saying You're

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not it about because you're gonna have to say it

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about somebody.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the number of free agency threats

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out there that if you were to if you're making

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the decision to move on from Austin Reeves, now, don't

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you think it has to be purely compensation based rather

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than we're afraid of paying him to where it's tm

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X comes in and I'll throw some teams at you.

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Tm X comes in with a godfather offer, and it Yeah,

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we'd rather go the route of maybe they view Austin

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Reeves as the player who gets them another caps lock star,

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or do they want to go the path of he

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got us a bunch of first round picks and prospects

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and then we'll use that to trade for a bigger

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star than Austin Reeves. Or is there an in between

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where it's, oh, we got a role player or two

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who helped us remain competitive now, and we got picks

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and prospects as well. So we're still kind of loading

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up the trade clip because just based off the list

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of teams we've gone through, it feels like there might

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be two real threats to come in and look, some

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of those teams we named might just like if the

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Pistons might just not have cap space. If they decide

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they want to keep driving Jay and Ivy and Jaal

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on Dirty, there goes your biggest threat or most sensible

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fit off the board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I the more we talk about this, the more. If

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I'm the Lakers, I'm pretty comfortable going the thirty to

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thirty five million a year. However far that needs to go,

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Like I whichever of whichever of the year structures he

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would prefer, I'd be okay as long as the annual

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value is kind of the range I've said, because it

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can't be for picks. And who is the player? I

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don't know, if you have this maybe unfair. Who's the

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guy you want to trade him for? As the Lakers

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that you're gonna say, this is someone we want to

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give the thirty thirty five forty a year?

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Speaker 3: Two?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you would like, how high does that bar

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need to be? Based off what Austin Reeves has already

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done too, you would maybe need to believe that this

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specifically what we're watching right now is very fly by

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night and you want to sell it's sort of you're

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selling a stock before you think it's about the crater

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And just he played well enough last year to where

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what we're seeing now. I don't think he's like thirty

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five plus pois per game type.

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Speaker 2: Of No, he's like a top five MVP candidate right now, right,

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you know he's not that I think. I think if

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you're the Lakers, it can be a financial decision and

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it can also just be this isn't the player type

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we're going to spend a max on.

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Speaker 3: It's just like circling all the way back.

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Speaker 2: It's like, give us the we need a Dallas Mavericks

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Jalen Brunson level player, and we'll pay him accordingly twenty

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million a year or whatever. That's good enough as our

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secondary creator next to Luca. We want a center or

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we want like a super versatile three slash four that

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can guard the guys. We don't want Luca to chase

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around like that. You're just deciding roster build wise. It

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can't we can't spend this much on this type of players.

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That would have to be their logic.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think so this is all to say,

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I just be comfortable and this is what I'm the

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Lakers looking to do. Is I'm taking this the free agency,

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let him decline his player option, and you make the decision. Then, however,

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I have a couple of teams that I'm just wondering

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if they could come in and move the Lakers at all. Okay,

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you mentioned the Mavericks. If there's something built around Derek Lively,

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they have the Lakers as twenty twenty nine pick. And

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then you throw in. By the way, the other challenge

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here with trading Reeves is because he's making under fourteen

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million dollars, it's and the Lakers are right up against

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the first apron. It is very tough to extract what

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you would deem adequate value out of that. It's hard

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enough of player making that number, so you either need

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to expand the deal to include other players or it

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really is a picks in prospects based package. But Dallas,

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just with Derek Lively, they have I think two tradable

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first round picks, and you could get into it with

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the like, is this or the Mavericks on that type

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of timeline where they should be doing it? Ask Nico Harrison,

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don't ask me.

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Speaker 3: Just as a threshold issue.

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Speaker 2: If I'm the Lakers, I'm trying to trade with the

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Mavericks first, no matter what, forever, just to see because

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you just.

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Speaker 3: You know, you never know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I'm getting at, though, like Lively not

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as good a player as Austin Reeves, just makes more

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The best version of Lively makes a ton of sense

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on the Lakers, right like that, that that solves your

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center problem. I would that, But then but then immediately

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When you said that, I'm like, can I also get

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PJ Washington somehow? And then it's like, well no, because

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Austin Reeves isn't making any money. So how like you're

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just you gonna have to flow out this deal. Yeah,

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you have to expand it, and I don't know if

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you want to do that.

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Speaker 1: And PJ also can't be traded this year after signing. Yeah,

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the uh I have just two more teams to balance

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a record. With the Pistons, we mentioned them as a

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free agency suitor if they come in, deal needs to

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be expanded. But the baseline is you're not getting us R. Thompson.

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I think we could. We'll make that clear. What if

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it's Isaiah Stewart Ron Holland and there's pick, there's a

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first round pick, there's two first right, is that anywhere

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in the And if you're the Pistons, is that even

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something like okay, now we're really all jail and Duran

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at the five round and Paul Read apparently.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna say Duran.

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Speaker 2: But that's complicated too, because then the Lakers are in

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the same position of like, what do we pay this guy?

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Speaker 1: It could be Duran. You could make it work, but

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it's would you rather pay Austin? I think I'd rather

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would you rather pay Austin Reeves thirty five million a

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year or jail and Durant twenty five million a year?

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And I think I'd rather pay Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 2: Thirty I think I would too, and especially if I

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get to keep Stuart, And like, you know, there are

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a lot of things that Stuart is better at than

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Duran is, Like I don't know if he can be here,

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you know, every downrunning back, Like he might just be

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a change of pace kind of guy, but I mean

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he's great room protector, can shoot it.

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Speaker 3: It looks like again, uh so I might.

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Speaker 2: My knee jerk reaction was like I'm ready to move

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on from Duran and this same kind of like what

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do we pay this guy decision that the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Would be moving off of in this trade.

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Speaker 2: I think I need more than Durhan though, if I'm

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the Lakers for Reeves for sure, Like I don't know

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what else that needs to look like, Holland would be

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an interesting player for the Lakers because you could just

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use him as as like you're just gonna guard one,

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two or three, that's your job. Hopefully you learn how

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to shoot. But if he doesn't, then like how much

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of a value value add is he for the Lakers

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just to put a wing.

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: And it can't be Thompson because the what you want

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is Cunningham, Reeves and Asar Thompson.

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Speaker 3: And you just see what that turned on.

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Speaker 1: Ideal that you probably also want to tell you his Stewart.

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Speaker 2: The ideally you do want him there too. I just

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want him on the Pistons since we've since I've.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Pistons, though, because you can have cap

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space at that point, you're probably just hoping he gets

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the free agency right rather than because.

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Speaker 3: It's the yeah, do you trade?

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Speaker 2: Do you give up stuff to get a guy that

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you could just sign, although as you said, if you

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do sign Austin Reeves, it's because you've given up on

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at least one or maybe both of Duran and Ivy,

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so you're kind of quote unquote trading those guys.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, if you have.

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Speaker 1: At least your first round pick'd be like you've kept Yeah,

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the other team, I have the rockets, which is just

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it can't happen right now because they're you look at

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they're not trading Shan Gun or a Men Thompson for

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Austin Reeves. But if there was just a deal where

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the comp you have to work out the salary filler,

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it would have to be Tarry Easton and Picks plus salary.

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Is that something where the Lakers are, okay, Tari Easton

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fits exactly what they need. You could also argue that

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if it was, but again, he's poison pilled like Jabari

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Smith Junior could be kind of interesting in LA that

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would be a very complicated trade. But so between Jabari Smith,

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Tarry Easton and Picks as the baseline, and I do

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really think what's gonna catch a lot of people rub

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people the wrong way is like some of the packages

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we've thrown out there is Lakers exceptionalism, like this is

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what it's taking to get Austin Reeves one. I'm not

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saying everything. I'm not saying four first round picks in

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like Tari Easton and Jabari, but I think that Reeves

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has entered a level to where like, no, this we're

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in multiple first round pick territory, even with him being

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on an expiring contract.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless maybe the Lakers value one reads Shepherd as

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this as an equivalent to a first I thought about.

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Speaker 1: That, but look, you know, I love Read Shepherd and

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the idea of Rechepherd next to Doncha should make so

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much sense. But do you believe that the Lakers are

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actually going to develop Read Shepherd and he has not

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shown enough?

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Speaker 3: Like I mean, it feels sinker.

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Speaker 2: It's stupid because it's his second year and he's barely played.

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But I'm kind of tired of waiting for Reed Shepherd

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to develop.

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Speaker 3: Let's see it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe so maybe it's he is a change of scenery guy,

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he's a second draft guy and the Lakers, but it

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doesn't need to.

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Speaker 1: But like, are the Laker what I mean? This would

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be a team though that it feels like the compensation

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unless you're really expanding it to get your Barie Smith

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junior here, which I think Rockets fans of the Rocks

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ways they get the hell out of here, Like we're

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not giving your bar sure, but this is a future

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focused trade that for the Lakers, So then maybe they

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would be interested in because you're you're either saying we

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want these picks to draft and develop or we want

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to turn around and flip these picks in a separate deal.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, this gets down to like what is the

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actual timeline for the Lakers, because they're clearly comfortable taking

477
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a gap year now with Luca in the in mid

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twenties prime. Uh Like, I guess if you're thinking of

479
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it as we want these picks to flip, then okay

480
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that that doesn't necessarily mean like you're going to use them,

481
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and you're looking at like three years from now is

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when we're really gonna peak, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Luca will hold up for that long.

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Speaker 2: I just you can't beat the Pistons for me, that

485
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the package is kind of there, and the the need

486
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and the fit. I just I like every aspect of

487
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it the best. From Detroit's side.

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Speaker 1: I think the problem with the Pistons is that I

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think of the teams that I named, they might have

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the least incentive to trade for him, just because if

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you're gonna have cap space this summer, I mean you

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guarantee because you're not trading form without knowing he stays.

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But the optics of giving Ron Holland recently a top

494
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five pick and then you're gonna give up more first

495
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round picks on top of Isaiah Stewart and maybe you

496
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could do well. Are the Lakers gonna take Tobias Harris's

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matchings out, and you're expanding it that way. I don't know.

498
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I was just trying to come up with a baseline offer.

499
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But the Pistons are by far my favorite fit. He

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would be fun as hell on this version of Milwaukee.

501
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They just don't have the assets to go out and

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get him unless they're trading honest, of course.

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Speaker 2: I think another small consideration is, like Jade and Ivy's

504
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value just could hardly be lower given his draft pedigree

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and like what he actually did last year when healthy.

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Speaker 3: So the Pistons might look at this as.

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Speaker 2: Like, we can keep Jade and Ivy restricted free agency

508
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for less than half of what it's going to cost

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to pay Reeves, and like he's not half, he's eighty

510
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percent the player Reeves or something like that is just

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the value proposition might just favor We'll just keep our

512
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guy for way less, not trade picks, and and if

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it turns out Ivy can't be what we know Reeves

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might be able to be, well then we move on

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and we didn't burn picks, and we did, you know

516
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what I mean? Like that, I could see them thinking that.

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Speaker 1: Would just asking questions here, would a challenge trade, and

518
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it'd be a sign and trade of Austin Reeves for

519
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Franz Wagner be interesting at all.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I just don't think Orlando would give up.

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Speaker 2: I think, I mean, I would be very interested in

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that if I were running the Magic. I don't think

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the actual Magic would trade Franz Wagner for Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 1: They're already kind of light on wings too, sneakily, and so.

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Speaker 2: The shooting from Reeves and the shock creation would be

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an upgrade. But I mean, Franz was a better player

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than Reeves last year. So we're again we're talking about

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the five games of this year, Austin Reeves versus Franz.

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But like Franz was just he was better.

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Speaker 1: What about can Toronto do anything? Colin Murray Boyles picks salary?

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Speaker 2: Then it's like, why are the what are the Lakers?

532
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What's they're gonna wait for Clin Murray Boyles to hit

533
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his prime?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, defensively he already yeah, yeah, this rookie class man.

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Speaker 3: There's some like Cedric Coward.

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Speaker 2: We're getting uh, we're getting off topic, but yeah, Murray

537
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Boyle looks really good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if You've seen a lot of him,

539
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but he looks.

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Speaker 1: Really Oh, I've seen a lot of Caulinary, but I've

541
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actually not seen enough of Cedric Coward and have to

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go back and watch him before we do.

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Speaker 3: Like, all the rookies are good, They're all They're all

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all of them, every last.

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Speaker 1: One, even Mohammed Dijuara. He's ahead of Pocom Dottie and

546
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the next rotation. That's like rookies just taken by storm.

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There are any just teams you'd want to throw out

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there as a potential, like pretty interesting? Is Austin Reeves?

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Speaker 2: You said Milwaukee, right, Milwaukee's definitely one that would be fascinating.

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Although is he gonna eat into Ryan Rollins?

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine Reeves and Ryan Rollins in the back court? Though?

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Speaker 2: That being said, yes, and I'm enjoying it. I'm doing

553
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it right now. It's it's very enjoyable. Let's see, Dallas

554
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would be a good fit, right. You could go down

555
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the list of teams where it's like is there enough

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creation here? Dallas certainly fits into that. We said Houston Orlando,

557
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Like that's been a real issue for a lot of teams,

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is like can somebody create shots?

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Speaker 3: So any any place where that's an issue? Uh, what

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about like? What about Miami?

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Speaker 1: Like because I would run so counter. They spent this

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entire preseason learning this new offense and what is so here?

563
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Would be interesting? Though? What if they decide, okay, we

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want to pay Austin Reeves instead of Tyler Hero? What

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does Tyler Hero stuff needs to be a That's that's

566
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a really awkward conversation to have.

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Speaker 2: Does Tyler Herro get you more in a trade than

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Austin Reeves?

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Speaker 1: Probably?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Probably not? But should he? Like doesn't? Isn't that a

572
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Hero a little under? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he's more of an off ball threat? Oh,

575
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Reeves is cutting his bonkers? That's a really tough discussion.

576
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Maybe it's I thinks is better on the ball. I

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think I think you're right, he's a better facilitator. Well,

578
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I think he could say Hero is a better scorer.

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Speaker 2: But Reeves had fifty in the game this year, so

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I don't know if that's true anymore?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Are you trying to pair Reeves with Hero

582
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in that situation? I don't be aware.

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Speaker 2: It's a little like the Ivy situation where we're we're like, hey,

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we're going in a different direction.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because Austin Reeves kind of feels like what

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Miami needs? Do you think he could play the way

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that they're playing right now? Though?

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Speaker 3: I got another one the Pelicans.

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Speaker 1: I'm just they're not a real NBA team. I'm just joking.

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Speaker 3: What about what about Minnesota? I don't know how they.

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Speaker 1: Get Would you give up Jade McDaniels for him when

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your defense is already so shaky.

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Speaker 2: And if you're the Lakers, you're like, we could use

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us a Jayden McDaniels next to Luca.

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Speaker 3: Now here would compromise a lot.

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Speaker 1: We haven't talked about this yet with the Lakers either,

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but can you do a trade where it's Austin Reeves

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for a non shot creator and you're also not sure

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if Lebron is going to be back?

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Speaker 2: Well, that gets back into like, can we get our

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sort of bargain secondary creator? How how hard or how

602
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easy would that be? What level of player does it

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need to be for our offense to be functional with Luca?

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I think generally speaking, you do need that guy. But

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if you're just like triaging the Lakers situation, I think

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you It's like you can get away with prioritizing a

607
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lot before you get to that secondary creator guy. You

608
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need one, but you need your center. You need your

609
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guys that are going to hit a bunch of spot

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up threes and defend. I think you need those more so.

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I guess the answer is, yeah, you can absolutely trade

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Reeves without getting and lose Lebron with without getting back

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your your secondary creator.

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Speaker 3: You can.

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Speaker 2: The level for that is not super high. You you

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absolutely must have the other stuff I mentioned. Does that

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make sense?

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Speaker 1: Like, no, that.

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Speaker 3: It's still in need.

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Speaker 2: You can't have it be all Luca, but it can

621
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be like I don't know, Peak bogged On Bogdanovich or something,

622
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could be that guy like that, that type of player.

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Speaker 1: I don't that's Jade Mactarials is the player I'd want

624
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if I'm Lakers. I don't think Minnesota can justify, especially

625
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the way that Gobert has kind of looked this year.

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It's and then you're gonna have Randall and Reeves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would change the team a lot.

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Speaker 1: You need the Lakers to be high on Rob Dillingham

629
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and then you can only trade a swap right now.

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I just I don't think there's a pathway to Minnesota

631
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being able to get Austin Reeves. Oklahoma City function up.

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Speaker 3: They're not allowed to trade it anymore. Portland Portland needs.

633
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Speaker 1: That was the team Portland would be fun. I don't

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know what the package is though.

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Speaker 2: Mm, well, if I'm the Lakers, I'm asking for Kamara

636
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and I who can't be traded.

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Speaker 3: All this?

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Speaker 2: You had these extension guys y, So then I think

639
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deals off because if I can't get him, I'm not interested.

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Speaker 3: You can what what would you what even would it

641
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look like?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you take take a test drive on Scoot? Would

644
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:16,640
you trade Scoot if you're Portland, if you're getting Reeves back?

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Speaker 1: Probably yeah? Would I don't think I'm the Lakers. I

646
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,640
don't Scoot and Luca. I don't know what that is. Yeah, okay,

647
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,359
you get a second creator, but there's so much left.

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Speaker 2: On you might need more shooting out of that second

649
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,279
creator because you're not getting a version of offul version

650
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:34,319
of Scoots not good enough.

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Speaker 1: I do think if you're trading Reeves and you're not

652
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getting a wing and or a big as part of

653
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,279
the deal, it probably just needs to be nixed, right,

654
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:43,680
and so who you're not Jeremy Grant expanding to you

655
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to get Jeremy graz out doing anything for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're not getting a better secondary creator than Reeves.

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If you're trading Reeves.

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Speaker 1: Do need another guard? The Kings, they're only starting four

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guards at this point.

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Speaker 3: They they haven't tried five yet. Why not?

661
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Speaker 1: I think the Pistons in Dallas. I like his fits.

662
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:06,960
I don't know if they're feasible trade destinations. The Rockets

663
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:11,119
would be interesting too, to Miami, who one's super interesting.

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I just don't know what the package is.

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00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the case for a lot of this,

666
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just because, like you said, Reeve's salary number complicates it.

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00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,039
Just the the more we talk about it, the more

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I think I'm taking it.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking it too. Free agency. I want to clap

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Boston Reeves and there's maybe a walkaway number.

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Speaker 2: But really, by the time you get to free agency,

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you'll have a much better idea of like where he

673
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,799
actually is between last year's production and what he's done

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so far this year. So maybe thirty a year is plenty, right, Like,

675
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960
maybe that that ends up being fine and you're good

676
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,920
with him as because then you still have room for

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another Max guy potentially if you play it right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it really does depend how much he costs.

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But I'm with you, I'm letting this. I wouldn't sell

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00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:55,960
how it would have to be on. Does the Desmond

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Bane package even get you to move Reeves at this

682
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point as the Lakers?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: If as the Lakers, I don't know, because you're banking

685
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,200
on being able to flip those for someone like Reeves?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like? Then what did? What was the point?

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Speaker 1: We're just asking questions? Are you ready to take us

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out of here?

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Speaker 2: Yep? Thanks everybody for listening, for watching, Member to rate,

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as not so we think there's a button there, we

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think we think I don't Uh yeah, that's gonna do it.

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