Speaker 1: Welcome to Passion of the Soul with me Elena Lieberman,
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Speaker 1: is episode thirteen. The body remembers, the body transforms a
Speaker 1: somatic path to transformation, discover the freedom and wholeness of body, mind,
Speaker 1: and spirit. Jackie neu Reuter, our guest tonight, believes that
Speaker 1: movement has the power to heal and transform life. In fact,
Speaker 1: movement is the thread that weaves life together. Well, Jackie
Speaker 1: has loved movement her whole life. She had an outstanding
Speaker 1: yoga practice and she taught, and then that led her
Speaker 1: to Middle Eastern dancing and belly dancing, which led her
Speaker 1: to feng Shuei, which is movement in energy. And after
Speaker 1: that she found her true love, heart to heart Argentine tango.
Speaker 1: So that's part of her journey. Most people did not
Speaker 1: realize that Jackie experienced muscular pay most of her life.
Speaker 1: Many people didn't even know about it, including me. Her
Speaker 1: quest for finding natural relief led her to the powerful
Speaker 1: healing modalities that she teaches and practices Today. Tonight, Jackie
Speaker 1: new Reuter delves into the significant therapies that have restored vibrant,
Speaker 1: dynamic living to herself and her clients. Welcome Jackie, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Eleana. I just that was such a powerful introduction. I
Speaker 2: hope I can live up to what you've shared for me.
Speaker 2: This is such a lovely privilege to be here today,
Speaker 2: and I think it's what you're doing with this show
Speaker 2: is just really incredible.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Well, what's more, give us some
Speaker 1: of the details of your personal journey with this and
Speaker 1: how does movement really have the power to transform life
Speaker 1: in a broader set.
Speaker 2: I actually like to start with a quote from Einstein.
Speaker 2: I know that sounds pretty heavy, but he said nothing
Speaker 2: happens until something moves, and he was talking about the
Speaker 2: vibrational energy of the universe and that there's always movement happening.
Speaker 2: There's always movement happening in our bodies, and there's a
Speaker 2: static movement or being static is just a very temporary situation.
Speaker 2: But creating change in one's life, you have to break
Speaker 2: your own habitual patterns, and I feel that that's where
Speaker 2: a movement has helped me to break my pats from
Speaker 2: early childhood and growing up and so forth. So I
Speaker 2: just have become I feel, a lifelong learner and curious
Speaker 2: about modalities that will be transformative. And so that's where
Speaker 2: I started, and you shared a little bit of my
Speaker 2: earliest journey. So I started after high school, I didn't
Speaker 2: go right to college, so I decided to join the
Speaker 2: YMCA and learn to swim. And swimming was like really fluid.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was great, but I took all the
Speaker 2: lessons for swimming, and then water belly showed up. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'd love to do that. And then other things were
Speaker 2: happy at the why and that was yoga, and yoga
Speaker 2: was pretty new at that time. So that's where I
Speaker 2: began my yoga journey. And that really has been a
Speaker 2: critical and credible journey because it really led me to
Speaker 2: While I was born into a Christian family, I started
Speaker 2: to explore other religions and philosophies and other modalities. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to learn how other people saw life and
Speaker 2: experience life, and so Hinduism, Buddhism, philosophy, psychology, all of
Speaker 2: these things lit up my brain, so to speak. And
Speaker 2: so all these different spiritual studies were combined also with travel,
Speaker 2: because I did a lot of travel in different countries
Speaker 2: of the world, and again rubbing shoulders with different kinds
Speaker 2: of people, indigenous people as well as you know, people
Speaker 2: in the limelight. So it was just a wonderful journey
Speaker 2: and that led me to of course although philosophy, sociology, anthropology.
Speaker 2: I started studying these things in college as well, and
Speaker 2: then another thing happened at the YMCA, and that was
Speaker 2: this Middle Eastern belly dancing was being offered and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting, So a friend and I started taking classes,
Speaker 2: and of course with anything, I just kept diving in
Speaker 2: further and so pretty soon I was teaching for my teacher,
Speaker 2: and then I took it to the community college and
Speaker 2: I was teaching there, So it was like a big
Speaker 2: phase at that time. So from there it was turned
Speaker 2: out that I was introduced to a woman who was
Speaker 2: training to be a body mind movement therapist, and so
Speaker 2: she decided to start a dance company as part of
Speaker 2: her training, and so that's where I became invited into
Speaker 2: this training or this dance company, which became known as
Speaker 2: the Nearies Heritage Dance Theater, and I performed with them
Speaker 2: for twenty years until we finally ended. In fact, you
Speaker 2: can even find on YouTube some of our videos. The
Speaker 2: Nearies Tritage Dance Theater, so folk dancing, belly dancing, ancient
Speaker 2: Egyptian very interpretive dancing, and provisational dance. So it was
Speaker 2: very intriguing now I was doing other things to make money,
Speaker 2: Like I was a professional recruiter, and you know, that's
Speaker 2: what I did, and that really was helping people move
Speaker 2: into new careers. So their movement was showing up there.
Speaker 2: But that was not my passion. I really didn't find
Speaker 2: that to be the most passionate thing in my life.
Speaker 2: So that's why I was always looking for other things.
Speaker 2: And that's where functioning came along. And of course I
Speaker 2: didn't just have somebody consult for me. I started to
Speaker 2: study and then just really studied for many years, and
Speaker 2: then I took that to the community college because that
Speaker 2: became a very popular thing at some point, so I
Speaker 2: was I was teaching in several community college and as
Speaker 2: you said, it's about the movement of energy and about
Speaker 2: having the support of your environment around you that can
Speaker 2: help you in terms of your own well being spiritually
Speaker 2: as well as helping you to really enhance your life
Speaker 2: in many, many different ways. So all the things that
Speaker 2: I touched into were body, mind, and spirit. It didn't matter,
Speaker 2: you know, they all encompassed aspects of that.
Speaker 1: I have to inter Jeck Jackie, how did you get
Speaker 1: to tangle after all these things and all these the
Speaker 1: dancing that you can well.
Speaker 2: When the company folded, finally the leader moved away. I
Speaker 2: just joined some salsa dancing and then a friend said
Speaker 2: you should try tangle, and I thought, oh, I can't
Speaker 2: do another thing, and then I started and then I
Speaker 2: got hooked. It was hard, it was really hard. I
Speaker 2: was before in a company, you know, dancing with others
Speaker 2: or dancing myself for others, but this was like being
Speaker 2: the follower.
Speaker 1: And hold that thought, Jackie, we're going to have to
Speaker 1: take a break. I have to tell you something funny.
Speaker 1: There was a Hispanic woman who used to be in
Speaker 1: the Akashak records, and she would look at you and say,
Speaker 1: you may think you tangle about you don't not tangle.
Speaker 1: So it's time to go on a break. But before
Speaker 1: we do, I want to give everyone the full information
Speaker 1: for getting in touch with Jackie Neurouter. I want her
Speaker 1: information because she's going to tell you about how she
Speaker 1: came to find her first healing modalities. After our break,
Speaker 1: I rest and need dram meditation and the history. So
Speaker 1: go ahead, Jackie and give your information if people want
Speaker 1: to work with you for the healing. And then it
Speaker 1: sounds like do you still give tango lessons.
Speaker 2: I don't hear tang.
Speaker 1: Best the Middle Eastern.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm still training in tango as you said. Yeah no. So.
Speaker 2: My website is Harmonious Pathways dot com.
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Speaker 1: We're back on Passion of the Soul. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Ellen O. Lieberman. Our guest tonight is Jackie new Reuter,
Speaker 1: who has been working in some wonderful healing meditations and
Speaker 1: movement meditations. So Jackie tell us about some of these modalities.
Speaker 1: What is I rest and nidr meditation?
Speaker 2: Okay, it's essentially based on the ancient practice of yoga nindra.
Speaker 2: Yoga means yoking or uniting, and nidro means literally means sleep,
Speaker 2: So it's often referred to as the sleep of the yogis.
Speaker 2: It's state of count going into deep sleep that we
Speaker 2: do or should do each night. But that's the deepest
Speaker 2: state of metayation and so I REST is actually coined
Speaker 2: by a psychologist, Richard Miller, and he brought yoga Nidra
Speaker 2: to the military during two thousand and five, I think
Speaker 2: it was, you know, all the wars, and they started
Speaker 2: to use it for military people that were coming back
Speaker 2: from these wars and the traumas that they've been in.
Speaker 2: So he coined it i REST short for integrative restoration.
Speaker 2: So it's about integrating and creating wholeness again, and that's
Speaker 2: what this practice does. And so so I trained in
Speaker 2: this and then in the training, I had no idea
Speaker 2: where it was going to take it, but I was
Speaker 2: given the opportunity to start working with veterans and so
Speaker 2: that's where I did a lot of the work. For
Speaker 2: about eight ten years. We've formed a not for profit,
Speaker 2: the Veterans Restorative Project, and I was working with what's
Speaker 2: called gold Star families for example Vietnam as well as
Speaker 2: those coming back from war right then. But gold Star families, well,
Speaker 2: I have one now that I still work with in
Speaker 2: my public class, and that is somebody that a family
Speaker 2: that's lost their loved one in the war and it's
Speaker 2: been a real healing journey for them to stay with it.
Speaker 2: They've done other type of psychotherapy, but they stay with
Speaker 2: their IRIS because it's just such an important part of
Speaker 2: their lives. And then I also worked with a woman Maria.
Speaker 2: She was a silver star. A silver star is different
Speaker 2: in her situation. Her son came back and he did
Speaker 2: not hold on to his life. He actually committed suicide.
Speaker 2: That was just a traumat really traumatic thing for her.
Speaker 2: But she claims that IRIS really helped her to heal
Speaker 2: and create homes. So I don't work just with veterans.
Speaker 2: I work with all kinds of people. But that's where
Speaker 2: I got my start, and it's it really is available
Speaker 2: and beneficial for all kinds of people.
Speaker 1: Is this a permanent treatment or do they keep doing it?
Speaker 2: Well, it's like any other type of meditation. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: have to. You have to continue to do it and
Speaker 2: practice it. But you learn a toolbox of different practices
Speaker 2: such as breathing and sensing that help you when you
Speaker 2: need them in your everyday experience.
Speaker 1: Well that's amazing, and it's in a group that really
Speaker 1: need to very traumatized people. So that's that's terrific. Now
Speaker 1: you have another healing you have a few healing practices,
Speaker 1: you have a healing practice that includes hannasmatics. Now what
Speaker 1: is this How does it help people's lives?
Speaker 2: Okay, so Hannah semantic and educate. Well, you know, we've
Speaker 2: got an epidemic of chronic pain in our world and
Speaker 2: in our country. One hundred million people will suffer from
Speaker 2: chronic pain just in this country. And so Hannah Semantics
Speaker 2: is developed by Thomas Hannah. And the whole concept is
Speaker 2: semantics is sensing from the inside, what's what's what you're experiencing,
Speaker 2: and it's anration of mind and body. And it's certain
Speaker 2: gentle integrative movements that you can do and learn to
Speaker 2: do and use in your everyday life, similar to the
Speaker 2: irist in terms of having a toolbox that you can
Speaker 2: do it while you're seated, while you're standing, while you're
Speaker 2: lying down in bed. And so these these movements actually
Speaker 2: are unique and that they use something called pandiculation. Pandiculation
Speaker 2: is like contracting into a muscle and then a very
Speaker 2: slow release so that you lengthen into its natural toness.
Speaker 2: And so what he did was he studied animals. Animals
Speaker 2: use this technique. So anybody that's listening that has dogs
Speaker 2: or cats, particularly cats, you see how they move into
Speaker 2: these contorted movements, what they're doing, especially when they come
Speaker 2: out of a nap. You know, they have this involuntary
Speaker 2: just it's almost like a yawn. It's almost like when
Speaker 2: you wake up in the morning and you just think, oh, stretch.
Speaker 2: You think it's a stretch, but you're actually releasing those
Speaker 2: tense joints and muscles. And so that's the practice. It
Speaker 2: helps to relieve pain and restore natural patterns of muscle
Speaker 2: and posture. And I have been a recipient of it
Speaker 2: because I came to it through my chiropractor. She said
Speaker 2: to me one day because I was going to the
Speaker 2: chiropractor all the time, all the time, and she said,
Speaker 2: I want you to stop thinking that you are out
Speaker 2: of alignment and that in fact you you are half
Speaker 2: tense muscle. And she said, here's a book I think
Speaker 2: you should start to read. Well, there you go read
Speaker 2: that was the book, and then dive it in and
Speaker 2: dive into it. And I discovered the trainings and then
Speaker 2: I just said, oh, this is for me, and it's
Speaker 2: made all the difference in the world. I have had
Speaker 2: this si joint and shoulder problems for decades and now
Speaker 2: I can keep them under control. Now I can be
Speaker 2: relieving of my own pain and then I can help
Speaker 2: others as well, which I really really just love to do.
Speaker 1: Well, that's wonderful. Where did you did you go on
Speaker 1: to study that after the book you read the Chiropracta? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: where did you study that? Well?
Speaker 2: Initially I studied with Clinical Sematics, it's an online course,
Speaker 2: and then I studied with the Nevado Institute where Thomas
Speaker 2: Hannah created the training originally. So that's where, in fact
Speaker 2: I'm still involved with them. I'm on the training committee
Speaker 2: for them, and I also am involved with the Association
Speaker 2: for Hannah Semitic Education. We call it education because we're
Speaker 2: educating individuals to be become empowered to do their own healing. Yes,
Speaker 2: they don't be neatly us to continue. Yeah. So actually
Speaker 2: both of these modalities I rest in Hanna semantics are
Speaker 2: similar in that respect.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to take a break right now because
Speaker 1: when we come back, Jackie is going to lead us
Speaker 1: in a movement meditation for healing and wellness. So it's
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Speaker 1: We're back on Passion of the Soul. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Ellena Lieberman, and I am absolutely thrilled to have Jackie
Speaker 1: Newriyter as our guest tonight. Right now, Jackie is going
Speaker 1: to lead us in a movement meditation for healing and wellness,
Speaker 1: So please join us.
Speaker 2: All right, So I recommend that you be seated in
Speaker 2: a chair. If you choose not to do this, that's fine,
Speaker 2: but stated in in a regular straight chair would be helpful.
Speaker 2: So the first thing you're going to do is well,
Speaker 2: I find that so many people have issues with their
Speaker 2: shoulders and their neck, and so that's what I'd like
Speaker 2: to lead you through movements here. So to start with,
Speaker 2: just begin to tilt your head to the right, just
Speaker 2: not as far as you can go, but just a
Speaker 2: little bit, and then come to center, and then a
Speaker 2: little bit to the left, and then back to center. Now,
Speaker 2: your job is to stay in comfort. If you run
Speaker 2: into discomfort, into pain, you need to back off, do
Speaker 2: less or do it in your imagination, which equally well
Speaker 2: works well because we're working in the brain for these movements. Okay,
Speaker 2: so do that again. Tilt your ear towards your right
Speaker 2: shoulder or one of your shoulders and back to center,
Speaker 2: and then to the opposite shoulder, and then back to center.
Speaker 2: And here you're working to gain some bio feedback. Which
Speaker 2: direction felt easier, which was harder, So whichever was the
Speaker 2: easy side. I'd like you now to turn to the
Speaker 2: opposite direction, about an inch or two to that side.
Speaker 2: In fact, now what I'm going to ask you to
Speaker 2: do is just really turn your head to the left.
Speaker 2: That'll keep it easier. And then you're going to start
Speaker 2: to glide your right shoulder up towards the back of
Speaker 2: your head, and you're going to slightly tilt your face
Speaker 2: up towards the ceiling, so you're like looking up at
Speaker 2: the corner of the ceiling and hold that for a
Speaker 2: moment and breathe. You're going to continue to hold, but
Speaker 2: a little bit less and a little bit less, and
Speaker 2: feel the lengthening in that muscle. And let's do that
Speaker 2: one more time. Turn your head to the left, begin
Speaker 2: to glide your shoulder up towards the back of your head,
Speaker 2: slightly tilt your head back. Breathe, continue to breathe throughout,
Speaker 2: and then start to hold a little bit less and
Speaker 2: a little bit less and a little bit less, and
Speaker 2: continue to release until there's no residual tension and come
Speaker 2: to rest. And now let's do it to the opposite side.
Speaker 2: So now you're going to turn and inter t to
Speaker 2: the right. You're going to start to lift your left
Speaker 2: shoulder towards the back of your head. You're going to
Speaker 2: lean your head slightly back, and you're going to look
Speaker 2: up at the ceiling, and you're going to feel that
Speaker 2: contraction and hold and breathe, continue to hold, but hold
Speaker 2: a little bit less and control that really all the
Speaker 2: way out. This is what I mentioned earlier about how
Speaker 2: the animals release their tense muscles in this fashion and
Speaker 2: come back to censure. And once again, turn your head
Speaker 2: slightly to the right, start to lift your left shoulder
Speaker 2: towards the back of your head, and lean your face
Speaker 2: looking up at the ceiling, and then slowly release, slowly
Speaker 2: allow everything to come back to neutral or maybe a
Speaker 2: new neutral, because that's what happens. And then just notice
Speaker 2: and just do a little jiggle with your shoulders. And
Speaker 2: now I'd like to end with a this portion with
Speaker 2: a simple movement intogration. So if you could put your
Speaker 2: hands together like in prayer fashion, your elbows are out
Speaker 2: to the sides, and you're going to start to lift
Speaker 2: your arms, your fingers up towards the ceiling and your
Speaker 2: elbows up, and then you're going to start to curl
Speaker 2: your fingers, so's the back of your fingers come together
Speaker 2: and your elbows come out to the side, and you're
Speaker 2: like diving down with your fingers. And notice how that
Speaker 2: is moving your whole shoulder girdle. Let's try that again,
Speaker 2: bringing your fingers up, your elbows out to the side,
Speaker 2: coming up, start to curl your fingers and start to
Speaker 2: dive and feel your shoulders and shoulder blades in back
Speaker 2: moving and then slowly come to rest. And just now
Speaker 2: sense close your eye if you'd like to have a
Speaker 2: soft gaze, whichever works for you, and start to sense
Speaker 2: how your neck and shoulders feel this, notice if there's
Speaker 2: any change, and then begin to sense into your face
Speaker 2: and your jaw. Notice any tensions in your jaw around
Speaker 2: your eyes, these are areas that hold a lot of tension.
Speaker 2: Can you feel back behind your eyes, sensing any tensions
Speaker 2: in your forehead, your temples, Then moving down to your ears,
Speaker 2: can you open your ears to sounds sounds in the room,
Speaker 2: outside the room, even sounds in your own body. And
Speaker 2: now just allow those sounds to come to you. Bring
Speaker 2: your full presence here now in your body, into your
Speaker 2: neck and shoulders, and sensing down a flow of energy
Speaker 2: down your arms, a ball of energy that rolls into
Speaker 2: your palms of your hands. And can you feel the liveness,
Speaker 2: tingling of energy and a liveness in your hands. And
Speaker 2: then bring your attention down into your belly. Can you
Speaker 2: feel the soft movement of your belly as you breathe,
Speaker 2: your inhalation and your exhalation, and then sensing into your pelvis,
Speaker 2: and you feel how your sit bones are resting on
Speaker 2: that surface wherever you are. Perhaps if you have a
Speaker 2: back to your chair, you feel that as well. Really
Speaker 2: open your awareness, open your awareness to sensations, perhaps feeling
Speaker 2: the back of your thighs, and then all the way
Speaker 2: down into your feet, if your feet are planted on
Speaker 2: the floor or the rest somewhere, can you feel the
Speaker 2: aliveness in the souls of your feet. These are sensitive
Speaker 2: areas your feet, your hands, your lips. And now can
Speaker 2: you open your awareness to your whole body? Can you
Speaker 2: feel your whole body as one wholeness one whole radiance
Speaker 2: of sensation and aliveness. And as you rest here, can
Speaker 2: you feel that sense of groundedness, can you feel a
Speaker 2: sense of being supported.
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Speaker 2: Can you open giving yourself to the feeling of this
Speaker 2: quality of being when you're just being? Is there anything
Speaker 2: needed in order to be? Is there anything you need
Speaker 2: to know in order to be? Is there anything lacking
Speaker 2: when you're just being? Or is being already whole, complete,
Speaker 2: just as it is? And perhaps even opening to the
Speaker 2: feeling of well being where nothing is needed, where everything
Speaker 2: is pretty much okay, just as it is. And if
Speaker 2: it's helpful, you might recall a time or place and
Speaker 2: experience when you feel have felt totally at ease, perhaps
Speaker 2: at peace, perhaps a feeling of harmony, a feeling of safety.
Speaker 2: So this practice of I rest.
Speaker 14: Yoga Nidra is like peeling away layers, layers of habitual
Speaker 14: holding patterns, physical, emotional, cognitive, your thoughts, your feelings.
Speaker 2: So a peeling away all of these things, we come
Speaker 2: to a very core of our that has never been hurt,
Speaker 2: isn't broken, and doesn't need fixing. But take a moment
Speaker 2: to sense now again the chair beneath you, the surface
Speaker 2: wherever you are. Maybe you're lying down and that's perfectly
Speaker 2: a beautiful way to do this as well, taking your
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Jackie. That was absolutely wonderful. I
Speaker 1: feel so much more space in my being as you
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Speaker 1: are in pain or any kind of suffering can really
Speaker 1: work with you and feel their own presence again and
Speaker 1: their true authentic self, which is their essence, which is
Speaker 1: a state of being. And this is terrific work. So
Speaker 1: please give your information so people can have private consultations
Speaker 1: as well as go to your classes.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much, Ellena. My website is harmonious
Speaker 2: Pathways dot com.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm Ellena Lieberman with Passion of the Soul, and
Speaker 1: we're going to take a quick break right now. When
Speaker 1: we return, we're going to hear a new healing modality
Speaker 1: that Jackie does called pain reprocessing therapy. So we'll find
Speaker 1: out all about that. We'll be right back looking for
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. I'm Ellen A. Lieberman with Passion of the Soul,
Speaker 1: author of Dynamic Manifestation as received through the Akashak Records.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was just mentioning to Jackie that
Speaker 1: a lot of the work in the Akashak Records, or focus,
Speaker 1: I should say, is about becoming your authentic self, which
Speaker 1: ties into your essence who you truly are in your being,
Speaker 1: which then leads to actions. But just being accepting yourself
Speaker 1: without judgment is one of the keys to manifestation and
Speaker 1: a much deeper happiness within your life. So Jackie has
Speaker 1: really given us a wonderful, wonderful way to get very
Speaker 1: deeply in touch with ourselves. And she told me that
Speaker 1: she has veterans who just stay with her to do
Speaker 1: these meditations. It means so much to them year after year.
Speaker 1: So Jackie has a newer technique now that she facilitates
Speaker 1: called pain reprocessing therapy. So Jackie, what is this and
Speaker 1: what does pain reprocessing mean? Different It's an unusual name.
Speaker 2: I know, and we shorten it with saying PRT because
Speaker 2: it's a long name to begin with. So it's a
Speaker 2: different way to understand pain, to retrain your pain brain,
Speaker 2: your brain pain centers, because what's been discovered, I guess
Speaker 2: sixty five years ago scientists discovered that where pain happens
Speaker 2: is really in the brain. Yes, we feel sensations in
Speaker 2: our bodies due to some trauma or injury or post
Speaker 2: surgery or whatever it may be, but the pain that
Speaker 2: is happening is being stimulated into the brain centers like
Speaker 2: the amygdala and other areas around that. So this is
Speaker 2: a way to see your pain, not necessarily as a
Speaker 2: sign of damage, but as as as an opportunity to
Speaker 2: maybe to really explore the pain, particularly because what happens
Speaker 2: is oftentimes you have an injury, you've had surgery, and
Speaker 2: and then the pain lingers on. When it lingers on
Speaker 2: for more than two six months a year, that's real
Speaker 2: chronic pain. And so it turns out that that that
Speaker 2: oftentimes the injury has been has already been uh what
Speaker 2: was it healed, but the brain has has not gotten
Speaker 2: the message. It's gotten stuck. So it's that blockage, it's
Speaker 2: that picual of habitual pattern in the brain. That's gotten stuck.
Speaker 2: So so this helps you to lo learn how the
Speaker 2: pain can be softened and eased and in many cases
Speaker 2: reduced and even resolved. So there's been incidences where people
Speaker 2: have herniated discs, spinal stenosis, degenerative disc disease, and it's
Speaker 2: showing on all the tests, but they don't have any pain.
Speaker 2: And then there's other people that have you know, it's
Speaker 2: showing on the test and they have pain. So what's
Speaker 2: the difference, And so i'd like to share it actually
Speaker 2: a little history behind it. As started with doctor John Sarna.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of him in the
Speaker 2: early nineteen nineties, and he was showing the relationship between
Speaker 2: the mind and the body to healing pain. And so
Speaker 2: his work was studied and others have taken and taken
Speaker 2: it further, and so so I'd like to share a
Speaker 2: few examples of how this actually can play out. There
Speaker 2: was a construction worker, he was in Europe, this is
Speaker 2: a few years ago, and he was working on the
Speaker 2: site and he stepped on a plank and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, this nail, big nail went right through his boot,
Speaker 2: right through all the way, and it was like he
Speaker 2: looked down and he was just just in agony. I
Speaker 2: mean he was screaming and yelling and everybody around him
Speaker 2: and saying, oh my god. So they, you know, they
Speaker 2: got him rushed to the hospital and and and so
Speaker 2: at the hospital, they sedated him, and then they started
Speaker 2: the procedure of removing the nail and taking his boot off.
Speaker 2: And guess what happened. The nail went right in between
Speaker 2: his toe, so it never severed, It just went right
Speaker 2: in between. But because he knew of the hazards of
Speaker 2: his work, and because he knew that it could cause
Speaker 2: great pain, and seeing it, well, there's evidence, I must
Speaker 2: be in pain. And the brain is this miraculous part
Speaker 2: of us. It wants to keep us safe, and so
Speaker 2: it creates the pain to keep us safe. That happens
Speaker 2: when we're injured. But here's an incident where he wasn't injured,
Speaker 2: but the evidence was there he should have been injured.
Speaker 2: And everybody around him, so all his colleagues, all his coworkers,
Speaker 2: they were just like they were all agitated too. They
Speaker 2: were and agony as well. So that added to it.
Speaker 2: And so that's one example of how this how our
Speaker 2: brains react in pain when not necessarily needing to. And
Speaker 2: another is phantom pain. So if people have had a
Speaker 2: certain limb removed and they can still their hand may
Speaker 2: still be in pain for years and years, and that
Speaker 2: can happen to about seventy percent of the people that
Speaker 2: have had a limb removed or part of their body removed.
Speaker 2: So there's another example. So it's now really recognized that
Speaker 2: the pain centers are in the brain, not in your body.
Speaker 2: So it's about learning how to change the brain. And
Speaker 2: we do that through a variety of modalities. I rest, yoga, nindra,
Speaker 2: that was one of them. Some movement practices could be
Speaker 2: also helpful. But it's also helping people to really really
Speaker 2: learn that this is this is that we may have
Speaker 2: an overprotective nervous system and that it's not necessarily to
Speaker 2: tissue damage and over time we can learn to heal that.
Speaker 2: And I have one example.
Speaker 1: Well, Jackie, when we're nearing the end of our show,
Speaker 1: and I want to thank you for all this fabulous information,
Speaker 1: very quickly just repeat where people can get in touch
Speaker 1: with you and do all these wonderful things. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be in pain. Here's the point. You can
Speaker 1: be in harmony with yourself. You do not need to
Speaker 1: be in pain, so quickly give your contact information one
Speaker 1: more time, please.
Speaker 2: Okay. My website is Harmonious Pathways dot com and I
Speaker 2: would love to hear from any of you.
Speaker 1: Well. I had a wonderful time. Everything you're doing is
Speaker 1: so meaningful and I really hope that many people take
Speaker 1: advantage of the opportunity of working with you. So thank
Speaker 1: you all for tuning in, and please join me the
Speaker 1: first and Thursday of each month five pm Pacific at
Speaker 1: eight pm Eastern. Next time, on August thirteenth, join me
Speaker 1: for my show direct from the Akashak Records, an hour
Speaker 1: where the Soul speaks with live consultations for listeners to
Speaker 1: tune into see you then, thank you for being with
Speaker 1: us today. I'm your host, Eleanor Lieberman. Be sure to
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