Speaker 1: All right, get ready, because we are going deep on
crop circles. Yeah. Crop circles, they're truly a mystery.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: They've been puzzling people for centuries.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And imagine, yeah, waking up and seeing these crazy
patterns in your fields.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: It's spooky, right, it is, It is spooky. But the
question is where do they come from? Right?
Speaker 2: Are they elaborate hoaxes?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are they just some natural phenomenon?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or could they be something more?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like some sort of message.
Speaker 2: A message from beyond, right.
Speaker 1: From something we don't understand.
Speaker 2: We don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so today we're going to try to unpack
all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a ton of information to go through.
Speaker 1: We really do. We have historical accounts, we've got eyewitness testimonies,
scientific analysis, we do, and even some kind of whispers
of government involvement.
Speaker 2: Always got to have that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's a real head scratcher, absolutely is, and we're
going to do our best to unpack all of it today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to lay it all out there.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that I think is so
interesting is that crop circles, they're not just a modern phenomena.
Speaker 2: No they're not.
Speaker 1: They go way back, way back, like centuries, yeah, centuries.
So it seems like this mystery has been with us
for a really long time.
Speaker 2: It has been.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For example, there's this record from the ninth century
where a bishop, the Bishop of Leon in France, Okay, yeah,
he mentioned that villagers were gathering seeds from flattened circles, okay,
and they believed that those seeds had like a mystical.
Speaker 2: Power for like fertility rituals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fertility rituals. Yeah. And I just think that's so
interesting because even back then people were attributing these strange
occurrences to forces beyond their understanding totally.
Speaker 2: They were looking for an explanation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were trying to make sense of it. And
it makes you wonder, you know, if that same theme
continues to echo through the centuries.
Speaker 2: Absolutely definitely.
Speaker 1: And it's not just folklore, right, Oh, it's not just stories, no, no, no.
Like in the seventeenth century, we've got Robert Plott, he
was a professor at Oxford.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so this is serious.
Speaker 1: And he meticulously documented and sketched circles that were appearing
near his home. Interesting, and his theory was that they
were formed by a flash of light.
Speaker 2: Okay, by a flash of light.
Speaker 1: Interesting, and he also noted that animals seem to avoid
those areas.
Speaker 2: Oooh that is interesting.
Speaker 1: So again like way back then, Yeah, trying to connect those.
Speaker 2: Dogs, trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: You know, what could this be? Yeah, And it's so
interesting how those early accounts they often linked crop circles
with light phenomena. They do, they do, which is something
that we still see today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a recurring theme.
Speaker 1: It is a recurring theme.
Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting.
Speaker 1: It's like there's this consistent thread connecting these events across
time cross time. It really does make you wonder, does
what is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the connection there?
Speaker 1: So and then we get into the twentieth century, things
start to pick up speed.
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing reports popping up in scientific journals. Oh wow,
and even the US Air Force starts poking.
Speaker 2: Around, they get involved.
Speaker 1: Huh right, they're intrigued. And we even have the first
photograph of a crop circle from nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so this is documented now, it is this
is real.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It goes from those anecdotal accounts to documented observations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hard evidence.
Speaker 1: And this is really a pivotal point. It is because
it's like, okay, now we're getting somewhere we have proof exactly.
But it's in nineteen sixty six in Totally Australia where
things take a bizarre turn. Oh boy, So we have
a farmer, George Pedley, okay, and he reports seeing a circular.
Speaker 2: Craft, a circular.
Speaker 1: Rising from a swamp, leaving behind a flattened circle of reeds.
This is often referred to as the UFO nest.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, and it.
Speaker 1: Really throws gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And it links crop circles with this idea of extraterrestrial visitation.
Speaker 2: Right, because now you've got a.
Speaker 1: UFO, right, you've got a UFO.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a game changer.
Speaker 1: It is a game changer. Wow. The Totally incident really
captured the public's imagination.
Speaker 2: I bet it did.
Speaker 1: And it introduced this concept of unidentified flying objects being
involved in the creation of these formations.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a big leap.
Speaker 1: It is a big leap. You can kind of see.
Speaker 2: How people, I mean I see the connection.
Speaker 1: Start to make that connection, and from that point on
the world was hooked. I bet they were the mystery
of crop circles had gone mainstream. Oh absolutely, and it
was off to the races from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet the theories just started flying, oh yeah,
all over the place. And you know, with all this
mystery surrounding crop circles, oh yeah, people were coming up
with all.
Speaker 2: Sorts of explanations.
Speaker 1: I bet.
Speaker 2: I mean you had everything from.
Speaker 3: Like natural weather events to military experiments and of course
the ever popular aliens.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But then, just as.
Speaker 3: The mystery was really cheating up, two guys came forward,
Oh no and said we did it. Oh really, yeah,
Doug and Dave, Doug and Dae. They claimed to have
started it all back in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1: Eight, so they were like the original circle makers.
Speaker 2: Yeah they said they were.
Speaker 3: And their confession, I mean, yeah, it really shook things up,
but it did.
Speaker 2: People were so ready for a simple explanation.
Speaker 1: Right, like, okay, mystery solved exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, case closed.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Yeah, when you look closer at
their story, uh huh, things aren't adding up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some holes in their story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like for example, their timeline, right, they kept changing
the year they said they started.
Speaker 2: Yeah they did.
Speaker 3: It was like seventy six and seventy five, then finally
they landed on seventy eight.
Speaker 2: It's like they couldn't keep their story straight right exactly.
Speaker 1: And then there were those demonstrations they did.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the demonstration they tried to show.
Speaker 1: How they made these complex formations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with just like planks and rope. Yeah, but honestly,
what they came up with was pretty basic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like child's play compared to the real deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like comparing stick figures to the Mona Lisa.
Speaker 1: Right. There's just no way they could replicate the detail
and precision of real crop circles with those methods exactly.
And then some of their explanations were just out there,
a little far fetched, Like they claimed they used to
pull vault into fields to avoid leaving tracks pole vaulting,
coal vaulting.
Speaker 2: These guys were in their sixties.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I can't even picture that, I know.
And then there's the whole Boeing bomb story.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one.
Speaker 1: Where Doug claimed he got hit in the head by
frozen airplane waste.
Speaker 2: Right, a Boeing bomb.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's a new one. It's just
doesn't add up.
Speaker 2: It doesn't.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, their confession might have seemed convincing it first. Yeah,
But the more you dig into it, Yeah, the more
suspicious it gets.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: And even if we say, okay, maybe they did make
some circles, right, that still doesn't explain all the other
crops out there.
Speaker 2: It doesn't explain the sheer number of them.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, we're talking about crop
circles on every continent except Antarctica.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It's a global phenomena, it really is. And a lot
of them appear in really remote locations. Like there's no
way someone could have snuck in and made them, right,
It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So okay, how do we tell the real deal from
the fakes?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Good question?
Speaker 1: Like if some are hoaxes, how do we know which
ones might be something more?
Speaker 3: Well, researchers have identified some key characteristics. Oh really that
seem to set genuine crop circles apart.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is getting interesting, and the.
Speaker 3: Man made ones tell me more so for starters, the
plants themselves. Yeah, in real prop circles, the plants are
often undamaged. Really, they continue to grow, but horizontally, and
sometimes they even straighten.
Speaker 1: Back up, like they were never bent in the first
place exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like they were gently coaxed into position.
Speaker 1: Not just flattened or trampled exactly, almost like some invisible
force just kind of guided, yeah, guided them into place.
Speaker 2: And then there's this thing called node elongation.
Speaker 1: Node elongation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's this buyer, physicist W.
Speaker 3: Levin Goood, Okay, and he did a lot of research
on wheat stalks from crop circles, Okay, and he found
that the nodes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Those little joints on the.
Speaker 3: Stem right, those were often elongated and sometimes even.
Speaker 1: Burst open, burst open, so like something from a sci
fi movie.
Speaker 2: I know, it's wild.
Speaker 3: And his research suggested that maybe it was some kind
of electromagnetic energy.
Speaker 1: Like microwave radiation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was like these plants got zapped with an
invisible energy beam.
Speaker 1: It really does sound like science fiction, it does, and
it's real, it is. And then there's the magnetic anomalies. Yeah,
magnetic anomalies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so researchers have found these tiny spheres of magnetized
iron okay, sometimes called magnetic.
Speaker 1: Glaze, magnetic glaze around.
Speaker 2: Real crop circles.
Speaker 1: Wow, so like space dust.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people think they're extra terrestrial. And they're not
just scattered randomly, you know, they're often found in specific patterns.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what could that mean.
Speaker 3: Well, it's still a mystery, but some theory suggest that
it could be like a residue okay, from whatever energy
source created the circles.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about energy sources we don't even understand yet.
Speaker 2: Potentially that's incredible. And then we have the Chilbolton Formation.
Speaker 1: The Chilbolton formation, Yeah, this.
Speaker 3: One appeared in two thousand and one ye near the
Chilbolton radio telescope in England. And this one is especially
interesting because it seems to be a direct response, a
response to the Aercivo message.
Speaker 1: Wait, the one we sent out into space, yes.
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy four, the one with all.
Speaker 1: The information about humans and Earth exactly. Wow.
Speaker 3: So it's like someone or something out there got our
message and send.
Speaker 1: Us back a reply in the form of a crop circle.
Speaker 3: That's the theory that's mind blowing. The Chilbolton formation mirrored
the structure of the Aercivo message, oh wow, with some
key differences like what well, for example, it indicated silicon
as the base.
Speaker 2: Element for life instead of carbon.
Speaker 3: Right, and it showed a three stranded DNA structure and
even a humanoid figure but with a large head.
Speaker 1: So they're basically saying, hey, we got your message and
here's a little bit about us.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty compelling interpretation, it really is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it raises all sorts of questions about who
sent it and how they even communicated across such vast distances, right, Like.
Speaker 1: How is that even possible? What about? You know? This
is crazy?
Speaker 3: And what's even crazier is that a year before the
Chilbolton answer, another complex formation appeared in the same spot.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it looked like a digital image, like.
Speaker 1: They were trying to communicate with us using symbols and patterns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe they were testing the waters.
Speaker 1: This is wild. It is so the chilbowls and formations,
they really challenge our assumptions about communication. They do point
to the possibility of intelligence beyond anything we can even imagine.
Speaker 2: It's both exciting and a little scary, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what if we're not alone and what if
they're trying to tell us something and.
Speaker 2: We just don't understand what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to think about. It is but I
think we need to move on to something else now, Okay,
something that we haven't really touched on yet. What's that
the military's involvement in crop circle research.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that it's a fascinating area, right, Oh, it is.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: You've got these formations that some people think.
Speaker 3: Are blueprints, uh huh for advanced technology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how do we even begin to wrap our
heads around that? It's a big jump, right, Like, going
from these abstract patterns to actual blueprints.
Speaker 2: How do you even make that connection?
Speaker 1: How do we do that?
Speaker 3: Well, there's this really interesting story, okay about an electrical
engineer named Nikola Romansky.
Speaker 2: Okay, and he thought he saw engineering designs.
Speaker 1: In the crop circles, in crop.
Speaker 3: Circles, and so with this filmmaker Charles Maxwell, okay, and
they spent.
Speaker 1: Three years trying to build a device based on those designs. Yeah,
that's dedication, it is. What were they trying to build?
Speaker 3: They were trying to build a machine, Yeah, that could
harness energy from the vacuum of space.
Speaker 1: The vacuum of space.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called zero point energy.
Speaker 1: Zero point energy. That sounds like star trek stuff.
Speaker 2: It's pretty out there.
Speaker 1: So did it work?
Speaker 3: Well, the prototype didn't fully work, okay, but the fact
that they were able to take those crop circle patterns, yeah,
and turn them into an actual device.
Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: It suggests that there's a lot more information in those
formations than we realized we realize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're just scratching the surface, right exactly, like
trying to read a book in a language we don't understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a few words here and there, we can maybe
get the gist, Yeah, but the full meaning.
Speaker 1: Is still hidden.
Speaker 2: It's a mystery, it is.
Speaker 3: And you know, if if we entertain the possibility that
some of these circles are messages blueprints from somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else, from like an advanced intelligence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you think about their intentions.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, absolutely, Like why are they doing this?
Speaker 2: Are they trying to help us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, warn us, or just mess with us, or maybe
they're just.
Speaker 2: Trying to communicate. Yeah, and we're not getting it.
Speaker 1: We just don't understand.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about.
Speaker 1: It really is. Okay, but let's talk about the elephant
in the rooms that the military, of the military, at
their involvement in all this, there's.
Speaker 3: Definitely a history there, oh yeah, of government interest in crop.
Speaker 1: Circles, and it's often just dismissed as like, oh, conspiracy.
Speaker 2: Theory, right, people don't want to believe it.
Speaker 1: But is there something more to it?
Speaker 2: Well, one example is Operation Blackbird.
Speaker 3: Operation Blackbird this was in nineteen ninety okay, and it
was a big attempt to catch a crop circle forming.
Speaker 1: To catch it in action in real time.
Speaker 2: Wow, it was a huge media event.
Speaker 3: I bet researchers can cameras, even military personnel, they're all
there already to document everything.
Speaker 1: So they were basically setting a trap.
Speaker 2: I guess you could say that for whoever.
Speaker 1: Or whatever was making these circles.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: What happened, Well, the operation was sabotaged. What someone planted
a fake crop circle?
Speaker 2: Oh coming in the field.
Speaker 1: So they ruined the whole thing.
Speaker 2: They did, and it just fueled skepticism.
Speaker 1: Of course it did.
Speaker 2: People were like, see, it's all a hoax.
Speaker 1: But if they went through all the trouble to set
this up, right, why would they let it get sabotaged?
That's the big question, Like it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Some researchers think that maybe the military wanted.
Speaker 1: To control the story, control the narrative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe they were worried.
Speaker 1: About public panic if people knew the truth, right, or.
Speaker 2: Maybe there was something they didn't want to.
Speaker 1: Reveal for national security reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1: It's unsettling to think about. It is like, what if
they're keeping secrets from us?
Speaker 2: It's possible.
Speaker 1: So we have covert operations, potential disinformation came campaigns. And
then there's Colin Andrews.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Colin Andrews who's.
Speaker 1: Been investigating crop circles forever. He's a legend, and he's
said that he's been approached by people he thinks are
intelligence operators offering him money to do what to say
that all crop circles are hoaxes.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like a spy movie, it is.
Speaker 2: It's like they're trying to silence.
Speaker 1: Him, Yeah, to suppress the truth.
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder how far they're willing to go to.
Speaker 1: Keep this under wraps. So we've got these covert operations,
disinformation campaigns. And then there's a Circle Makers. Oh yeah, cycle,
this group that claimed responsibility.
Speaker 2: For a lot of the formation, like the really elaborate ones, right,
the ones that look like works of art.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some people think they were part of a
disinformation campaign too. Oh really, like they were intentionally muddying
the waters, so creating fake circles to make it harder
to tell the real ones from the fakes.
Speaker 3: It's a classic tactic, Yeah, to discredit the whole thing,
make it all seem like.
Speaker 1: A So why go through all that trouble?
Speaker 2: It's a good question.
Speaker 1: What are they so afraid of?
Speaker 2: Like, what is so dangerous about the truth? Yeah? What
could be so earth shattering?
Speaker 1: It's like they're trying to hide something big.
Speaker 2: It does seem that way.
Speaker 1: So we've got unexplained formation, Yeah, alien messages, advanced technologies,
and a whole lot of secrecy and disinformation. It's a
lot to take in, it is. Crop circles are truly
a mystery.
Speaker 2: Maybe the biggest one of all.
Speaker 1: So where do we go from here?
Speaker 2: I think the most important thing is to stay.
Speaker 1: Curious, to keep asking questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't be afraid to challenge the status quo.
Speaker 1: To think outside the box.
Speaker 3: Exactly, And who knows, maybe someday we'll finally figure it
all out.
Speaker 1: Maybe all the pieces of the puzzle will fall into
place and.
Speaker 2: We'll finally understand the truth about crop circles.
Speaker 1: That would be amazing you would. Well. On that note,
yeah we're going to wrap things up, okay, but thank
you for joining us.
Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure on this.
Speaker 1: Deep dive into the world of crop circles.
Speaker 2: It's been a wild ride.
Speaker 1: Until next time, keeps searching for the truth.
Speaker 2: And keep your eyes on the skies.
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