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Speaker 1: All right, get ready, because we are going deep on

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crop circles. Yeah. Crop circles, they're truly a mystery.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: They've been puzzling people for centuries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And imagine, yeah, waking up and seeing these crazy

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patterns in your fields.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 1: It's spooky, right, it is, It is spooky. But the

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question is where do they come from? Right?

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Speaker 2: Are they elaborate hoaxes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are they just some natural phenomenon?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or could they be something more?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like some sort of message.

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Speaker 2: A message from beyond, right.

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Speaker 1: From something we don't understand.

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Speaker 2: We don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so today we're going to try to unpack

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all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a ton of information to go through.

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Speaker 1: We really do. We have historical accounts, we've got eyewitness testimonies,

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scientific analysis, we do, and even some kind of whispers

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of government involvement.

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Speaker 2: Always got to have that, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's a real head scratcher, absolutely is, and we're

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going to do our best to unpack all of it today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We're going to lay it all out there.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that I think is so

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interesting is that crop circles, they're not just a modern phenomena.

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Speaker 2: No they're not.

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Speaker 1: They go way back, way back, like centuries, yeah, centuries.

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So it seems like this mystery has been with us

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for a really long time.

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Speaker 2: It has been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For example, there's this record from the ninth century

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where a bishop, the Bishop of Leon in France, Okay, yeah,

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he mentioned that villagers were gathering seeds from flattened circles, okay,

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and they believed that those seeds had like a mystical.

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Speaker 2: Power for like fertility rituals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fertility rituals. Yeah. And I just think that's so

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interesting because even back then people were attributing these strange

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occurrences to forces beyond their understanding totally.

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Speaker 2: They were looking for an explanation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were trying to make sense of it. And

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it makes you wonder, you know, if that same theme

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continues to echo through the centuries.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely definitely.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just folklore, right, Oh, it's not just stories, no, no, no.

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Like in the seventeenth century, we've got Robert Plott, he

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was a professor at Oxford.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so this is serious.

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Speaker 1: And he meticulously documented and sketched circles that were appearing

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near his home. Interesting, and his theory was that they

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were formed by a flash of light.

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Speaker 2: Okay, by a flash of light.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, and he also noted that animals seem to avoid

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Speaker 1: So again like way back then, Yeah, trying to connect those.

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Speaker 1: You know, what could this be? Yeah, And it's so

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interesting how those early accounts they often linked crop circles

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with light phenomena. They do, they do, which is something

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that we still see today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a recurring theme.

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Speaker 1: It is a recurring theme.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's this consistent thread connecting these events across

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time cross time. It really does make you wonder, does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the connection there?

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Speaker 1: So and then we get into the twentieth century, things

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing reports popping up in scientific journals. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: Huh right, they're intrigued. And we even have the first

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photograph of a crop circle from nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so this is documented now, it is this

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It goes from those anecdotal accounts to documented observations.

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Speaker 1: And this is really a pivotal point. It is because

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it's like, okay, now we're getting somewhere we have proof exactly.

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things take a bizarre turn. Oh boy, So we have

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a farmer, George Pedley, okay, and he reports seeing a circular.

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Speaker 2: Craft, a circular.

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Speaker 1: And it links crop circles with this idea of extraterrestrial visitation.

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Speaker 2: Right, because now you've got a.

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Speaker 1: UFO, right, you've got a UFO.

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Speaker 1: It is a game changer. Wow. The Totally incident really

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Speaker 1: And it introduced this concept of unidentified flying objects being

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Speaker 1: It is a big leap. You can kind of see.

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the world was hooked. I bet they were the mystery

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of crop circles had gone mainstream. Oh absolutely, and it

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was off to the races from there.

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mystery surrounding crop circles, oh yeah, people were coming up

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Speaker 2: Sorts of explanations.

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Speaker 1: I bet.

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Speaker 3: Like natural weather events to military experiments and of course

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the ever popular aliens.

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Speaker 2: But then, just as.

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Speaker 3: The mystery was really cheating up, two guys came forward,

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Doug and Dave, Doug and Dae. They claimed to have

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started it all back in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 1: Right, like, okay, mystery solved exactly.

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their story, uh huh, things aren't adding up.

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Speaker 2: It's like they couldn't keep their story straight right exactly.

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Speaker 1: And then there were those demonstrations they did.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the demonstration they tried to show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like comparing stick figures to the Mona Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Right. There's just no way they could replicate the detail

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and precision of real crop circles with those methods exactly.

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Speaker 1: Where Doug claimed he got hit in the head by

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frozen airplane waste.

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Speaker 2: Right, a Boeing bomb.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, their confession might have seemed convincing it first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And even if we say, okay, maybe they did make

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some circles, right, that still doesn't explain all the other

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crops out there.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't explain the sheer number of them.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. I mean, we're talking about crop

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: It's a global phenomena, it really is. And a lot

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, researchers have identified some key characteristics. Oh really that

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seem to set genuine crop circles apart.

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plants themselves. Yeah, in real prop circles, the plants are

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Speaker 2: It's like they were gently coaxed into position.

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Speaker 1: Not just flattened or trampled exactly, almost like some invisible

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on wheat stalks from crop circles, Okay, and he found

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Speaker 3: Stem right, those were often elongated and sometimes even.

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Speaker 1: It really does sound like science fiction, it does, and

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it's real, it is. And then there's the magnetic anomalies. Yeah,

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magnetic anomalies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so researchers have found these tiny spheres of magnetized

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Speaker 1: Glaze, magnetic glaze around.

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Speaker 2: Real crop circles.

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just scattered randomly, you know, they're often found in specific patterns.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's still a mystery, but some theory suggest that

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it could be like a residue okay, from whatever energy

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about energy sources we don't even understand yet.

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Speaker 1: Wait, the one we sent out into space, yes.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy four, the one with all.

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Speaker 1: The information about humans and Earth exactly. Wow.

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message and send.

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Speaker 1: Us back a reply in the form of a crop circle.

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Speaker 3: That's the theory that's mind blowing. The Chilbolton formation mirrored

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the structure of the Aercivo message, oh wow, with some

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key differences like what well, for example, it indicated silicon

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as the base.

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Speaker 2: Element for life instead of carbon.

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Speaker 3: Right, and it showed a three stranded DNA structure and

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even a humanoid figure but with a large head.

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Speaker 1: So they're basically saying, hey, we got your message and

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here's a little bit about us.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty compelling interpretation, it really is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it raises all sorts of questions about who

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sent it and how they even communicated across such vast distances, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: How is that even possible? What about? You know? This

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is crazy?

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Speaker 3: And what's even crazier is that a year before the

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Chilbolton answer, another complex formation appeared in the same spot.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it looked like a digital image, like.

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Speaker 1: They were trying to communicate with us using symbols and patterns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe they were testing the waters.

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Speaker 1: This is wild. It is so the chilbowls and formations,

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they really challenge our assumptions about communication. They do point

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to the possibility of intelligence beyond anything we can even imagine.

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Speaker 2: It's both exciting and a little scary, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what if we're not alone and what if

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they're trying to tell us something and.

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Speaker 2: We just don't understand what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot to think about. It is but I

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think we need to move on to something else now, Okay,

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something that we haven't really touched on yet. What's that

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the military's involvement in crop circle research.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that it's a fascinating area, right, Oh, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: You've got these formations that some people think.

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Speaker 3: Are blueprints, uh huh for advanced technology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, how do we even begin to wrap our

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heads around that? It's a big jump, right, Like, going

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from these abstract patterns to actual blueprints.

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Speaker 2: How do you even make that connection?

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Speaker 1: How do we do that?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's this really interesting story, okay about an electrical

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engineer named Nikola Romansky.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and he thought he saw engineering designs.

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Speaker 1: In the crop circles, in crop.

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Speaker 3: Circles, and so with this filmmaker Charles Maxwell, okay, and

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they spent.

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Speaker 1: Three years trying to build a device based on those designs. Yeah,

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that's dedication, it is. What were they trying to build?

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Speaker 3: They were trying to build a machine, Yeah, that could

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harness energy from the vacuum of space.

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Speaker 1: The vacuum of space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called zero point energy.

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Speaker 1: Zero point energy. That sounds like star trek stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty out there.

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Speaker 1: So did it work?

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Speaker 3: Well, the prototype didn't fully work, okay, but the fact

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that they were able to take those crop circle patterns, yeah,

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and turn them into an actual device.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It suggests that there's a lot more information in those

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formations than we realized we realize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're just scratching the surface, right exactly, like

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trying to read a book in a language we don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a few words here and there, we can maybe

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get the gist, Yeah, but the full meaning.

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Speaker 1: Is still hidden.

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Speaker 2: It's a mystery, it is.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if if we entertain the possibility that

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some of these circles are messages blueprints from somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Else, from like an advanced intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes you think about their intentions.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh, absolutely, Like why are they doing this?

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Speaker 2: Are they trying to help us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, warn us, or just mess with us, or maybe

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they're just.

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Speaker 2: Trying to communicate. Yeah, and we're not getting it.

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Speaker 1: We just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Okay, but let's talk about the elephant

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in the rooms that the military, of the military, at

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their involvement in all this, there's.

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Speaker 3: Definitely a history there, oh yeah, of government interest in crop.

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Speaker 1: Circles, and it's often just dismissed as like, oh, conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: Theory, right, people don't want to believe it.

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Speaker 1: But is there something more to it?

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Speaker 2: Well, one example is Operation Blackbird.

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Speaker 3: Operation Blackbird this was in nineteen ninety okay, and it

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was a big attempt to catch a crop circle forming.

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Speaker 1: To catch it in action in real time.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it was a huge media event.

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Speaker 3: I bet researchers can cameras, even military personnel, they're all

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there already to document everything.

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Speaker 1: So they were basically setting a trap.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say that for whoever.

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Speaker 1: Or whatever was making these circles.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: What happened, Well, the operation was sabotaged. What someone planted

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a fake crop circle?

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Speaker 2: Oh coming in the field.

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Speaker 1: So they ruined the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: They did, and it just fueled skepticism.

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Speaker 1: Of course it did.

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Speaker 2: People were like, see, it's all a hoax.

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Speaker 1: But if they went through all the trouble to set

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this up, right, why would they let it get sabotaged?

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Speaker 3: Some researchers think that maybe the military wanted.

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Speaker 1: To control the story, control the narrative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like maybe they were worried.

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Speaker 1: About public panic if people knew the truth, right, or.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there was something they didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: Reveal for national security reasons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's unsettling to think about. It is like, what if

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they're keeping secrets from us?

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Speaker 2: It's possible.

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Speaker 1: So we have covert operations, potential disinformation came campaigns. And

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then there's Colin Andrews.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Colin Andrews who's.

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Speaker 1: Been investigating crop circles forever. He's a legend, and he's

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said that he's been approached by people he thinks are

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intelligence operators offering him money to do what to say

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that all crop circles are hoaxes.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's like a spy movie, it is.

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Speaker 2: It's like they're trying to silence.

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Speaker 2: It makes you wonder how far they're willing to go to.

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Speaker 1: Keep this under wraps. So we've got these covert operations,

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disinformation campaigns. And then there's a Circle Makers. Oh yeah, cycle,

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this group that claimed responsibility.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of the formation, like the really elaborate ones, right,

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the ones that look like works of art.

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disinformation campaign too. Oh really, like they were intentionally muddying

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the waters, so creating fake circles to make it harder

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make it all seem like.

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Speaker 1: A So why go through all that trouble?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: What are they so afraid of?

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Speaker 2: Like, what is so dangerous about the truth? Yeah? What

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Speaker 1: It's like they're trying to hide something big.

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Speaker 2: It does seem that way.

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Speaker 1: So we've got unexplained formation, Yeah, alien messages, advanced technologies,

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and a whole lot of secrecy and disinformation. It's a

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lot to take in, it is. Crop circles are truly

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a mystery.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the biggest one of all.

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Speaker 1: So where do we go from here?

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Speaker 2: I think the most important thing is to stay.

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Speaker 1: Curious, to keep asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't be afraid to challenge the status quo.

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Speaker 1: To think outside the box.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, And who knows, maybe someday we'll finally figure it

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all out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe all the pieces of the puzzle will fall into

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place and.

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Speaker 2: We'll finally understand the truth about crop circles.

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Speaker 1: That would be amazing you would. Well. On that note,

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yeah we're going to wrap things up, okay, but thank

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you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure on this.

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Speaker 1: Deep dive into the world of crop circles.

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Speaker 2: It's been a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, keeps searching for the truth.

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Speaker 2: And keep your eyes on the skies.

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