WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.720 Hey, this is Emily sowderback of Scarecrow Videos Viva Physical Media. 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:05.599 All right, this is Matt Lynch, co host of Viva 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.359 the Projection Booth. Podcast is sponsored by Scarecrow. 4 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.480 Try out Scarecrow Videos rant by mail service. Choose from 5 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.519 over one hundred and fifty five thousand films and get 6 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.960 Blu rays, four k's and DVDs all delivered directly to 7 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:18.399 your door. 8 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:25.399 Visit Scarecrow Video dot Org today. 9 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:30.120 Oh g is boot It's show Die. People pay good 10 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.359 money to see this movie. When they go out to 11 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:35.799 a theater. They want cold sodas, hot popcorn, and no 12 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.759 monsters in the projection booths. Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring. 13 00:00:41.320 --> 00:01:02.280 Off MG presents an entirely different view of the world 14 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.719 of crime, the story. 15 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.920 Of two tough men in the struggle the survival against 16 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:13.079 the largest criminal corporation in America, The Outfit. 17 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:17.159 Put your hands flat on the table. 18 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:20.599 Who are you, friend, Maclin? 19 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:22.000 You hit a bank? 20 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:24.799 You and your brother, a guy called Cody before your 21 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.680 stretch Midwest National and Wichita Right. 22 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:31.560 Yeah, fit owns it, so you know how it is. 23 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.280 You hit us, we hit you. 24 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:39.239 The Outfit controls business, politics, police, It affects the lives 25 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:42.319 of all of us and Robert du Valles, Earl Macklin. 26 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.519 He's being compared to Bogan and Acadney, Joe, Don Baker 27 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:47.359 is Jack Cody. 28 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:49.159 Together they're one. 29 00:01:49.079 --> 00:02:06.560 Of the most powerful teams in motion picture history. 30 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.599 You and your damn gun. 31 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.560 Don't ever touch this gun again, hard guy, thank you 32 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:18.520 for telling you. Okay, nothing but a damned independent of 33 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:24.599 high Sky. You've got no operation behind you. 34 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.439 Machlin and Cody independent professionals who've got the guts to 35 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:36.400 fight back. You will never see a more exciting story 36 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:38.879 of two tough men against overwhelming odds. 37 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:43.039 The good guys always win. 38 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:47.680 The Outfit. 39 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.120 Welcome to the Projection Booth t I'm your host. Mike 40 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.120 White joined me once again as mister Jededi Airs. 41 00:02:58.120 --> 00:02:59.360 Go Die Elsewhere. 42 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.120 Also back in the booth is mister Gary Phillips always 43 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.439 a play. On this special episode, we are discussing John 44 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.280 Flint's nineteen seventy three film The Outfit. It's an adaptation 45 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.159 of a book by Donald Westlake, writing as Richard Stark. 46 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:16.759 It was Stark's third in the Parker series. We discussed 47 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.800 the first one on our Point Blank episode here Robert 48 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.639 Duval plays Earl Macklin. He's just getting out of prison 49 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.319 and find his brother's been murdered for a job they 50 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.120 did with their friend Cody. They hit a mob bank 51 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.840 and now the titular outfit is after them. Maclin wants 52 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.280 the pursuit to stop, and does this with the unusual 53 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:40.879 idea of hitting every unprotected outfit joint with of vulnerability. 54 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:43.919 We'll be spoiling the outfit as we go along, So 55 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:45.759 if you don't want anything ruined, please turn off the 56 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.919 podcast and come back after you've seen the film. We 57 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:50.759 will still be here. And lucky for you, Aero Video 58 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:53.400 is releasing a new Blu ray of The Outfit, and 59 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.120 it even features a commentary with Jedediah and me. When 60 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.680 we recorded that though, I uh, that was still when 61 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.560 Robert Tuval was alive, and I still feel bad that 62 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.520 I had to point out that he was alive and 63 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.039 then he passed away, what two weeks after we recorded 64 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:09.000 that jet even. 65 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.960 If then it was like two days after, it was 66 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:12.479 really shit. 67 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.639 Yeah, yeah, I was the curse, the curse. So, Jennedi, 68 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.160 when was the first time that you saw this film 69 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:21.319 and what did you think? 70 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:28.199 I saw it sometime in the too many tens. I'd 71 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.879 been aware of it for a little while. I think 72 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:34.720 somebody loaned me a copy of their like Warner Archive DBD. 73 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.959 I didn't have cable. I know it aired on TCM 74 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.680 or something free times, but it was hard to find. 75 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.040 And I was really excited that someone someone gave me 76 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.560 access to it because I'd wanted to see it for 77 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.800 quite a while and I loved it. A few years 78 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:55.560 later I got my own DVD copy and I've watched 79 00:04:55.560 --> 00:05:00.639 it several times since. It's always always a great, great watch, 80 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.160 and yeah, I don't understand why it's never had a 81 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:10.319 bigger audience. Hopefully this new release brings some new attention 82 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.639 to it and it gets some wider recognition, because it 83 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:16.079 definitely deserves it. 84 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:17.480 And Gary, how about you? 85 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:21.439 When did you see this? Must have been either the 86 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.920 late nineties or the early aughts, and or maybe it 87 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.720 might even be mid nineties and it was on TV. 88 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.319 I don't know what the hell it was on. I 89 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:37.680 mean it was like and I recall it was like 90 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:40.319 an afternoon man, you know, it was like it was 91 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:42.800 his way after Ben Hunter's matinee, which we had out 92 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.279 here in LA But it was whatever it was, it 93 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.399 was like, you know, it was like on Channel four. 94 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:51.040 It was you know, full of commercials and this and that. 95 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:55.839 But then finally, and this is more reached a little 96 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:57.720 bit more recent, not quite as recent as last night 97 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:01.199 when I watched it again on streaming on Amazon Prime. 98 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.560 It was on TCM, as as Jeed mentioned, and I 99 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.639 hadn't seen it, you know, again, I hadn't seen it 100 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:10.639 in years, and so the opportunity to watch it on 101 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:15.040 TCM a few years ago, I just thought so much 102 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:18.360 better of the film one because it wasn't full of 103 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.839 commercials and it was just you know, nothing was bleeped 104 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.399 and you could sort of watch it continuously. And then 105 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:27.399 I started to sort of more appreciate, Oh, this is 106 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.079 a bit closer to a Parker novel than quite a 107 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:31.079 few of the other efforts. 108 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.480 Yeah, I didn't see this one until probably around the 109 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.680 same time you saw it, Gary. I was doing an 110 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:41.040 article about Payback and was watching as many of the 111 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.079 Parker adaptations as I could get my hands on, And 112 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:46.000 we'll talk about some of the ones that came out 113 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.160 after Payback. We touchd a little bit about this before 114 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.680 Jet as far as the whole idea of who Parker is, 115 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:56.079 and Parker not being Parker like. Parker wasn't able to 116 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:00.399 be Parker until Jason Statham played him, which was after 117 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:04.759 Donald Westlake aka Richard Stark passed away. I believe because 118 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:08.319 for years he was like, nobody's playing Parker like Parker 119 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.319 is my character. You guys can be Walker, you can 120 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.399 be Macklin, you can be this, you can be that, 121 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.959 And this wasn't even you know, I mentioned the whole 122 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.759 idea of this coming up after point blank, but there 123 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:23.800 were Parker adaptations before plint blank, and then there would 124 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.240 be Parker adaptations after or I should say Stark, but 125 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:32.120 Parker characters after that. And it's interesting to see how 126 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.920 different people played Parker. But I have to say that, 127 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:40.240 even though he doesn't match the image in my mind 128 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.000 of what Parker looks like, I think that Duval plays 129 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.160 a really good Parker. 130 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.720 These flat to use Westlake's own own comment on it, 131 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:54.319 you know, he called the whole picture flat and said 132 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:56.800 that's the way he writes the books, and that's the way. 133 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.279 You know, he was really pleased with the film for 134 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.240 that reason, you know. I mean, you can certainly argue 135 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.040 I wouldn't I wouldn't hold anybody preferring Point Blank as 136 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.040 a movie or you know, one of the other adaptations, 137 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.000 just because they all have their own flavor. But you know, 138 00:08:12.079 --> 00:08:17.439 west Lake, I think correctly noted that this one feels 139 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:22.079 most like the books. The Point Blank is so arty 140 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.920 and you know, kind of flashy, and and you know, 141 00:08:25.959 --> 00:08:29.160 I love it. It's it's a great movie, but it 142 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:33.399 feels less like a Parker novel to Nathan than the 143 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:36.360 Outfit does. For that that flatness that that goes to 144 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.360 the you know, not just the camera work and and 145 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:44.000 the things like the editing, but the performances as well. 146 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.279 You're right, it's kind of fascinating when I was watching 147 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.919 it again last night and thinking about just that very 148 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:53.440 point that you know, here's Duval, who's not you know, 149 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.559 who's physically not a big guy, you know, and yet 150 00:08:56.840 --> 00:09:00.279 the way he since the you know, and have that's 151 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.080 the character and you and you write and you get 152 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.679 this sense of I think I think, as you you 153 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.440 point out in your in your notes to us, Mike, 154 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.639 that you know, here's that there's that great scene where 155 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.200 he's leaving the card game, having you know, embraced these 156 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:16.960 dudes to essentially let them know, you know, I want 157 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.279 my tour in fifty grand, like, by the way, which 158 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.279 is perfect. Right, He's like, no sentimentality really about his 159 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.200 dead brother, right, He's not really seeking revenge for his 160 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:28.080 dead brother. He just figures, well, look, you know this 161 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.200 is worth two hundred fifty grand. This is what you 162 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.200 owe me, and until you pay me, by the way, 163 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:34.279 I'm gonna come at you. But and then that, but 164 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.240 when he's just walking down the corridor of the Billboard hotel, 165 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:39.720 I might point out and they're like, you know, you 166 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.080 get that reminiscent of that scene of of Lee Marvin 167 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:47.559 walking down that corridor at Lax and so really and 168 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.159 just that kind of way he does it is it really? 169 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.320 It really does give you a sense of of the 170 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:54.879 no nonsense approach your Parker. 171 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:58.720 This is one of the first starring roles for Duval. 172 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.480 Up until this, he'd mostly been a supporting actor, you know, 173 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.159 big role of course, and the Godfather his I believe 174 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.919 the first time he had a real you know, this 175 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.679 movie is all about me was THHX eleven thirty eight 176 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.360 in seventy one. But unfortunately, I don't think a whole 177 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:17.679 lot of people watch that movie at the time. We 178 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.279 talked about that on an earlier episode, but here he 179 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.480 is just kind of owning this film and doing a 180 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:27.080 damn good job with it. He is so compelling, And yeah, 181 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:32.279 I like that. You know, even though we are pretty 182 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:36.200 close to Parker in the books, I'm trying to remember 183 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.519 if it's it's not first person, right, it's definitely a 184 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:39.559 third person. 185 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.080 Ye close third aheah. 186 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.919 That distance is crucial because you really should not ever 187 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.879 know what Parker is thinking. You need to have that 188 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.679 distance to be like, what is this guy up to? 189 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.840 What is he about to do? We don't know, rather 190 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:57.759 than being inside of his head. Plus, Parker's not a 191 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.720 friendly guy, you know, like you're saying like he just 192 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.399 wants his money, And that's the whole thing, even in 193 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.519 point blank, where it's just like I just want my money, 194 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.559 Like I don't care about any of this other stuff. 195 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:10.919 Just let me have my money, let me do my thing, 196 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.000 let me on my own. Because the whole thing we 197 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.600 should say is that Parker in Macklin. You know, whenever 198 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.879 I say Parker, I'm basically saying Macklin. In this movie, 199 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:24.480 he is an outsider to the organization, to the outfit, 200 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.320 and this whole idea of there are him, there are 201 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.879 all of these other thieves that live on the outskirts, 202 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.600 and they just want to do their business. They don't 203 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:35.960 want to get involved. They just want to make their 204 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:40.720 money from robberies, these things exploitation. Leave all that other 205 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:45.240 stuff to the outfit. You know, we're we're just independent operators. 206 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:50.440 And this whole idea of the outfit. They're so big 207 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:53.559 that they have left a lot of holes. They think 208 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:57.759 that they're impenetrable, so so much of this is I'm 209 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:02.240 going to go back to different jobs that I and 210 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:04.320 I don't know if they necessarily cover this in the 211 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:06.919 movie as well. Basically, it's just like, all right, I'm 212 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:08.399 gonna hit this place, I want to hit that place, 213 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.039 I want to hit this other place. But it's all 214 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:15.559 because Parker in this case knows these places are vulnerable, 215 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.200 because the outfit is so big that they haven't thought 216 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.159 about this, that and the other thing. Me, as a 217 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:25.000 professional thief, I'm thinking things through way better than the 218 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:26.000 outfit has done. 219 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:29.600 Who would dare rob us? Because we are the outfit 220 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:31.600 And this comes up a couple of different times. Of course, 221 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.159 in the context of the movie. You know, do you 222 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.000 know who we are, you know, you know what I mean? 223 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:37.559 Do you know who you're hitting here? Man? You're gonna 224 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:38.559 be did in two days. 225 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.840 Shit heel operation. He hits the place and they haven't 226 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.799 even locked. There's no like, there's no say for the 227 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.000 drawer isn't even locked and shit heal operation. 228 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:56.120 That's right, that's it exactly in the book. It's several, right. 229 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:59.360 I think it's several people that he entices to, uh 230 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.679 these yeah, Grove Field, I think it is one of them, 231 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:04.120 and several others, I believe. 232 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:09.679 Right, He sends out sends out notices to all the 233 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.720 thieves in his network, and he just says, basically, I'm 234 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.200 going to take the heat for this. You haven't done 235 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.080 these jobs because you know their outfit controlled and you 236 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:22.559 don't want to take on the hassle of you know, 237 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:25.799 dealing with the outfit. But they're after me, and I've 238 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.840 let them know I'm going to hit them, so you know, 239 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.480 do your worst, hit them all at once, hit them all, 240 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.360 you know, fast as you can, and all the heat'll 241 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:36.799 come at me. 242 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:38.840 So that's why, you know, of. 243 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.679 Course for the movie, it makes it's so it's better 244 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:48.480 just to have Parker himself or Macklin pulling off what 245 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.200 was his name in the I'm forgetting the Cody character's 246 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:52.000 name in the novel. 247 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.039 That's Handy McKay, right, Yeah, because he pops up pops 248 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.320 up in a few of the books. 249 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:00.639 I mean, we basically start where the movie is about 250 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:05.440 what ten minutes into things like he and not an 251 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:07.960 anonymous woman, but it's just a woman that he's picked up. 252 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.720 There's no love relationship, and she comes back at the 253 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.600 end of the book. But really it's this whole thing 254 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.919 of he and this woman are sleeping there, somebody breaks 255 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:19.960 into his room and he takes care of business and 256 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:20.960 is just like, well, who. 257 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:21.879 The hell ordered this hit? 258 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.919 And at this point too in the story. This is 259 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.480 the third book. The second book is The Man with 260 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:31.240 a Getaway Face, where he has plastic surgery because he 261 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.039 doesn't want the mob after him anymore, the outfit after 262 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.039 him anymore so and then of course it quickly. It's 263 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.000 funny because we just talked about the pilot for Some 264 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.279 Like It Hot, which had almost the exact same structure 265 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:45.639 to it, where it was, you know, the Jack Lemon 266 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:50.080 character and the Tony Curtis character get plastic surgery. They 267 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.639 become these other two characters, and then they're thrown almost 268 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.879 immediately back into the mix, and by the end of 269 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:59.639 the pilot their identities have been known. So the whole 270 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:01.960 thing of the plastic surgery was almost for naught. And 271 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:04.240 you get a little bit of that in here, where 272 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.759 like Richard Jacobs's character doesn't recognize him. And I had 273 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.399 to say to my wife last night, I was just like, 274 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:11.720 do you know why he keeps having to say who 275 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.000 he is to these different people is because he's had 276 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:17.120 plastic surgery. He looked like Lee Marvin a few movies ago, 277 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:22.480 and now he looks like this got male pattern baldness. 278 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:24.080 In the meantime, I mean I can relate. 279 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:25.960 Yeah, all it all kind of works. 280 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.960 But yeah, having those different thieves because so much of 281 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.519 the book you will leave Parker and go to these 282 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.200 chapters vignettes that they have where it's okay, now it's 283 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.320 this thief in this city and he goes, well, I've 284 00:15:40.360 --> 00:15:43.679 had this job planned forever and if the opportunity ever 285 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.919 came up, I would hit them, but I don't want 286 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.279 to because it's the outfit. I don't want this shit 287 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.240 coming back. I mean, great, it'll come back on Parker, 288 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.759 fuck him, I'm good, you know, it's like the honor 289 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.039 dishonor amongst thieves. 290 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.120 I did reread the novel, but I did a grabbhic 291 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:02.559 novel adaptation that Darwin Cook did and exactly and it 292 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.799 starts the same way as book, which is to say right. 293 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.799 It starts with the woman coming away, Parker hearing it, 294 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.919 rolling off the bed as as an allah a lah that. 295 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.120 Seen the great scene in the in the in Point 296 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.600 Blay and actually see that scene here too, right where 297 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.879 they come in they shoot the shoot the bed. The 298 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.399 bed is empty, which reminds me a little bit. 299 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:25.200 I think there was a similar scene as far as 300 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.399 shooting the empty bed. I'm sure they've done that a 301 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.320 bunch of stuff. I can think of the hobbits, you know, 302 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:34.159 escaping the uh the Nasgul in the Fellowship of the Ring. 303 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:36.799 But the whole thing with the empty bed reminds me. 304 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:38.559 I think like the Big Combo might have had a 305 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.279 similar thing to that. And it's it's always Parker is 306 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:46.200 always one step ahead of everybody, and that's a superpower. 307 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:46.519 Really. 308 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.120 He's smart, but he's also very relentless, like there's nothing 309 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.840 that's going to stop him. I love in the Book 310 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.120 of The Hunter, just that whole idea of I want 311 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:59.720 what was a mal Reese's neck between my hands. I'm 312 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.960 gonna choke the life out of this guy. I'm just 313 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.640 gonna constantly come after him. I think I described him 314 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.000 as like a Golam. He's kind of like the in 315 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.160 the movie. He's kind of like keenan Win's Golam, going 316 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.480 after what he wants to go after, going after you know, 317 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.640 Carol O'Connor, going after this character, going after that character, 318 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:20.000 until you know, at the very end he finally gets 319 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:22.880 who he needs to get and then kind of fades 320 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:24.559 back in the shadows kind of thing. 321 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:28.759 I guess it speaks to the elliptical nature of the 322 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.400 of the way Borman did the did the movie, which 323 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:33.920 is to say he in the end doesn't seem to 324 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.279 want the money now, right. He sort of pulls back 325 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.000 because now he's I mean, really he accomplished his goal, right, 326 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.839 I mean, he did everything that he needed to do 327 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.880 to get it. He was just relentless sort of force 328 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.680 this machine. And now here at this moment, it's almost 329 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.960 as if well if I if I take the money, well, 330 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.039 I you know, will I have no more purpose, right, 331 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:58.440 so now I'll just yeah, I'll just pull back. I'll 332 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:00.880 just go I go back, which, of course then it 333 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.319 gets echoed in the line of Soderberg's you know the line, 334 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.920 which is a tribute to point Mind talking about cyclical. 335 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:13.759 It also is similar insofar as eventually in Point Blank, 336 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.200 he's going after you know, who's the big boss. I 337 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:17.799 have to find the big boss. I'm going to kill 338 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:20.920 the big boss. This movie basically it's kind of a 339 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:24.799 redo of Point Blank in The Hunter, where it's Okay, 340 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.000 now I'm going to go after In this case, the 341 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.559 character's name is Mailer, the Robert Ryan character, and just 342 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.480 go after him. The one thing that they don't talk 343 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:36.119 about that's in the book, which is Parker slash. Macklin 344 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:39.680 reaches out to another I think it's like the second 345 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.079 in command, and it's just like if I do this, 346 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.559 if I take out this Mailer character, then you have 347 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:48.559 to leave me alone after you come in charge. Like 348 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.839 this is now my mission is to take this guy 349 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:53.359 out like almost like forget the two hundred and fifty grant. 350 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:56.000 I just need to ice this guy so that I 351 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.880 can live in peace, because he just he just wants 352 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.519 to rob places and not have people in his ship, 353 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:04.079 which is like very admirable to me. 354 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.880 Remember, he thinks he's gonna get the two fifty when 355 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.000 they doublecross him and it's a trap. That's that's when 356 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:14.319 he decides to take out Robert Ryan's character. But really, 357 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:17.119 up until d he's if they'd have paid it the 358 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.000 two fifty, he'd have gone away, right, he'd have gone away. 359 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.720 And that's what they don't understand. They'd never understand that 360 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:26.240 if you just pay me my money, I will be 361 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.240 a man in my word, because he's he's very honorable 362 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:29.759 in that way. 363 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:30.519 That way, that's right. 364 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.759 Yeah, he does change his mind a couple of times 365 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.680 in the books. I'm trying to remember if it was 366 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:40.000 in this, this one, or but but he a couple 367 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:42.480 of times he decides, not fuck it, I'm angry, I 368 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:46.279 got my money and I'm gonna kill you, or you know, 369 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.480 I'm gonna keep going. You know, I'd read several of 370 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:52.920 the novels and a couple of them a couple of 371 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:57.759 times before. Uh, you know, I started the year off 372 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:02.640 just reading all the entire series in order, and I'd never. 373 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:03.440 Done that before. 374 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:06.640 But some kind of misperceptions I'd had about the character 375 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.079 where you know, I thought that he was emotionless pretty 376 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:13.240 you know, I thought he really was just this sort 377 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:19.440 of sociopathic automaton, you know, just set to to take. 378 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:25.599 And he in the books, you know, he doesn't speak 379 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.359 a lot, but his his interiority is is there to 380 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.480 a certain degree, and you understand how pissed off he 381 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.640 gets about things and how you know he Yeah, I 382 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:39.400 mean a couple of times he reels himself back in 383 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:42.200 and there are sort of ebbs and flows to the series, 384 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.359 like for this stretch of books, he's a little more 385 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:47.720 this way and then he reigns it back in, and 386 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.880 you know, and he you know, he develops a love 387 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:54.799 interest that lasts for you know, a while that's in 388 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:58.440 and there's some playing with the you know what what 389 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.839 that means for for the Parker code and things like that. 390 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.400 But he is, he is an emotional person. He is 391 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.000 a person I should say he is. He's not as 392 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:15.759 quite as cold as he presents himself. Robert Duval is 393 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.319 recognizably human in here too. You know his I love 394 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:24.039 the scene early on when the Felice Sir Landy, He's assassin, 395 00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:28.079 comes to shoot him and shoots the bed and mac 396 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:32.200 and grabs him and Bet starts, you know, after he's 397 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:34.960 really roughed him up, Bet starts begging, you know, I 398 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:38.519 don't hurt him anymore. And Parker just like slams his 399 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:40.920 face into the wall and he's like, you're trying to 400 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.240 kill me. Why shouldn't I, you know, And you know, 401 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.039