WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:10.119 Day. Now here's nit coffee. I feel like I'm playing 2 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.160 catch up here because I feel like the four o'clock 3 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:17.399 hour is starting now, but it's actually four twenty five. 4 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.280 So a little late clock management never been my strong suit, 5 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:23.559 but today it's okay because I feel like it was 6 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:26.079 worth it. So usually this wouldn't have been a day 7 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:27.920 where we would bring on a guest like Jay Williams, 8 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:31.160 but you know, it made sense to do it. We 9 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.240 were a little bit delayed in getting him on. Therefore 10 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.479 we ran over the four o'clock hour, and he cussed 11 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.280 a couple of times we had hit the dump button, 12 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.719 and you know, I assumed it worked. I hope it worked. 13 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.200 I didn't get yelled at by anybody like how do 14 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:44.799 you let somebody say that over the air? Now if 15 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:47.000 you hear it on streaming, which I think the streaming 16 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:48.520 works as well as far as the dump button, but 17 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.280 there was a time where it didn't to where if 18 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:52.679 you were listening on the stream and not on you know, 19 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:55.200 treashial radio, you would be able to hear but it, 20 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.200 you know, it wasn't anything juicy. He just I think 21 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.679 he said to he said the S word twice, which 22 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:01.119 of course is a word you can't say, but a 23 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:04.000 good conversation. I appreciate him, you know, wanting to come 24 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:09.519 on and and uh and kind of explain how it 25 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:11.640 all kind of played out from his end with with 26 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:14.280 the the disaster that was the previous regime. And we 27 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:15.799 you know, today's not a day where we want to 28 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.879 relive that or or even discuss the what happened before 29 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.680 Pat Kelsey got here. But I do appreciate Jay making 30 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:25.799 some time and I guess, you know, kind of explaining 31 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.680 his side of it and also talking a little bit 32 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:30.879 about Pat Kelsey and you know, the Kentucky side of 33 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:33.359 things as well. So we did have somebody on the 34 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.599 text on that this makes total sense. Uh and and uh, 35 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.799 this is a nice reminder for me that you know, 36 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.439 you get listeners different times of the day, for different 37 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.480 amounts of time. You get people who listen that follow 38 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.359 you on social media. You get people who listen that 39 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.319 don't even have social media. You get people that that 40 00:01:50.480 --> 00:01:53.359 you know, it's just part of their commute and maybe 41 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:55.159 one day they tune in and they like what's going 42 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:57.280 on and they stick around. Maybe one day they tune 43 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:58.879 in and they say, yay, I'm gonna go listen to 44 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:02.280 you know oldies to turn on the legendary Terry Miners 45 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.959 on a you know who is just one station up 46 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.799 from US, right seven ninety to eight forty. But this 47 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.000 text was you know it says, I tuned in at 48 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.120 four o'clock thinking you were off and they were playing 49 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.280 national radio. Then I realized Jay Williams doesn't work for us, 50 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.560 if far, he works for ESPN, And sure enough I 51 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:19.879 realize he's on your show. So yeah, I explained sort 52 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:21.280 of how this all came about at the beginning of 53 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:22.960 the show, So if you're interested, you can go check 54 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:24.000 it out. But I do want to kind of get 55 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.360 back on track here, because a lot to get to 56 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:28.360 if you are just hearing us for the first time. 57 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:29.719 You weren't with us at the beginning of the show. 58 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:32.520 As you could expect, we had to discuss the you know, 59 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:36.639 the the loss last night. I said this at the beginning, 60 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.120 and it's worth saying not to you know, troll Louisville fans. 61 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:43.360 I'm a loivel fan myself, but it's something that I 62 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.240 think fans should at least be aware of if they're 63 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.919 not you lost to a team that's better than you. 64 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:48.800 I mean ol Miss is a better basketball team than Louisville, 65 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.159 and they might have even been a better team, probably 66 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.039 would have been a better team if you had Case 67 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:53.479 and pryor now, the game might have looked a little 68 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.159 bit different. Maybe there could have been some big momentum 69 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.000 swings to where Louisville could have really got the crowd 70 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.080 behind him. But you know the old we're all result itself. 71 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.240 It's not crazy now. Losing at home twice now by 72 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:07.919 twenty plus points to the only two good teams that 73 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.719 have made a trip to the Young Center this year, 74 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.719 and you've got Duke coming in on Sunday not ideal. 75 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.280 And I know there are some fans that kind of 76 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.400 felt like you know, And I'm not telling anybody had 77 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:23.800 a fan. I'm not criticizing you, I you know, because 78 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:28.080 I'm sure I view things and have a mindset about 79 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.680 stuff that is different than others. So I just think 80 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:32.719 for those that are like, well, hey, I don't care 81 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.240 about injuries, I don't care about anything. You don't get 82 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.560 you don't get blown out like that at home. This 83 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.080 is Louisville basketball. Like I hear you, And I know 84 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:42.719 why people have that opinion. I know why, like Louis 85 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:46.039 of basketball is something that, to be fair, when luiall 86 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:47.479 would get killed by these kind of teams with the 87 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.560 previous regime, we'd be upset. So like, I don't blame 88 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.719 anybody for being upset, I get it, although I do 89 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.639 think like benefited out is a little bit more deserving 90 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:57.719 for Pat Kelsey here, just given the fact that one 91 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.520 he's already shown what they did in the Bahamas that 92 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.039 they are, you know, they're on a much different planet 93 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.479 than they were previously. And also I just think it 94 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:06.039 kind of came to a head last night. I think 95 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.360 they came out with I think good energy. You know, 96 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.120 they were aware that Old Miss was going to be 97 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.639 really really physical and push them around, and they knew 98 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.120 they needed to really collectively try to work on the 99 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.800 backboard with Casin out, and early on they did a 100 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:22.439 good job, like no Water. But I don't think he played 101 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.000 a good game, and you know, I don't think it 102 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.399 was a good matchup for him overall. But he came 103 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:28.279 out and he rebounded, and I thought you could tell 104 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.279 there was an emphasis, Hey, I gotta step it up 105 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.439 on the boards because we don't have Casein. So I 106 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.360 think they came out with the mindset, and I don't 107 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:36.199 think they were feeling sorry for themselves, but I just 108 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.199 think once you start to miss that many open shots 109 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.120 and old miss is able to get the game played 110 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.399 at the pace they want and slow you down. They've 111 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:48.759 been able to you know, not to give you the 112 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:51.439 whole former player thing, because I didn't play basketball at 113 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:53.519 any level close to the one that we're talking about 114 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.399 here at Louisville, but put it in any sport you played, 115 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:01.000 rather it be high school, college, whatever. There's certain things 116 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.319 that I think can happen that can be a little demoralizing. 117 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.360 And I think for them to hold strong defensively for 118 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:10.800 the majority of a possession within the shot clock and 119 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.480 then get burnt back door like it's your fault, but 120 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.560 like you know, it's almost it's not like getting dunked on, 121 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.600 but like you got burned. And I think it just 122 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:23.839 a collective There was a collective, a collective effort from 123 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.879 the jump that I think you could tell they were 124 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.839 trying to kind of block it all out, meaning the injuries, 125 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:32.040 meaning you know, just the probably are worn out. I 126 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:33.199 know they had a little bit of a break when 127 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:34.800 they got back from the Bahamas, but still, I mean 128 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:36.800 that's three games in three days. One of them went 129 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:38.680 to overtime. Certain guys played a ton of minutes. So 130 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:44.879 I'm not making excuses, but I think i'll quote my 131 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.120 man who is he? We just said Jay Williams on 132 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.399 my Man John Fanta. He's kind of become too big 133 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.319 time for us. I mean, maybe I'll ask him to 134 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:53.800 come on soon and he'll be able to make some 135 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:55.199 time for him. But John used to come on this 136 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.839 show pretty regularly and he always used to say this, 137 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.240 and I think it's it's Some would say it's just 138 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.279 it's it's how you can kind of dress up an excuse, 139 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:11.199 but I think injuries and not only not having Prior 140 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:17.279 and Korn and Trey Ora, but just kind of mentally 141 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:19.519 knowing that you're this is your roster, like you have 142 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.759 basically seven guys. Now, like these guys can have the 143 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.920 best culture and the best mindset, but like those things 144 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.759 are just gonna get you. It's the human element of sports. 145 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.040 So it's not This is where I'm quoting my man 146 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:33.199 Fanta Milf man, I love Fanta, I said Milf, and 147 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:34.600 Austin lift at his head up because I know he 148 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:36.560 likes MILFs. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking 149 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.920 about man, I love Fanta. I want a shirt that says, 150 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:40.759 man I love Panta. M I l f get it. 151 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.240 And because John Fanta is the man is the first 152 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.240 thing I thought. And I knew John Fanta before he 153 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.360 became this college basketball star. I just want people to 154 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.519 know that. But it's not This is what Phantas said, 155 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:53.759 and he's right. It's not necessarily an excuse. It's an explanation. 156 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.600 Like I think everything kind of just crumbled last night 157 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:01.800 because of a variety of and I don't think that 158 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:04.199 they quit, but I think you could just tell body language. Man, 159 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.040 they were trying to stay locked in, but they were 160 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.720 pretty defeated once this thing got to midway through the 161 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.839 second half because they couldn't buy a shot. They couldn't 162 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.959 really get anything going to get better looks. And then 163 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.759 when they would get the best looks, I mean early 164 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.600 on they were getting I think, really good looks and 165 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:20.639 they weren't making them. And then you started to get 166 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:24.240 tougher looks. And technically, I guess within pat system, they 167 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:26.399 are considered to be decent shots and shots he wants 168 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:28.480 them to take. But they couldn't buy a basket. Man, 169 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.759 five of thirty from three is just not the recipe. 170 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.920 So I hate it as much as anybody that that 171 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.319 was what happened last night, a beat down on your 172 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:39.240 home floor. Eighty six to sixty three was the score. 173 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.839 I don't like that Duke's the next game. I don't 174 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.800 like that they really have seven scholarship players. And I 175 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.319 now will tell you I have no clue what's gonna 176 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.240 happen with this season. I still think they're gonna win 177 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.519 a lot of games in the ACC, and I don't know. 178 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:56.439 I mean, I'm not talking they're gonna win eighteen of 179 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:59.800 the twenty. But like you guys, realize ACC stinks and 180 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.879 O case In Pryor was a factor and he was 181 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.279 a big part of how you beat how you beat 182 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.759 West Virginia, how you beat Indiana. So like not having him, 183 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.680 clearly that's you're not the same team. But if you 184 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.600 can beat those teams even without prior, I think you 185 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.199 can beat a lot of the ACC. And hate to 186 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:17.759 be the I told you so guy, But like I 187 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:21.399 told you so, the reason I wanted to really emphasize 188 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.040 how badly the ACC has fallen as a basketball league 189 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.639 in the last decade. Yesterday was because it was Night 190 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:29.720 one of the acc SEC Challenge, and I knew we 191 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.240 were going to get our butts handed to us as 192 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:35.399 a conference, and that's exactly what happened nine to one 193 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.080 last night in favor of the SEC. It was nice though, 194 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.960 the one loss being Kentucky, although you know, I don't 195 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:45.120 think I think that game doesn't mean Kentucky won't still 196 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.840 be pretty good, but they ran into a team that 197 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:50.720 tried to take away what they want to do. And 198 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.679 we'll get into Kentucky coming up here at the end 199 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.279 of the four o'clock hour, because you know, I think 200 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.480 they're dealing with a similar situation to where teams are 201 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.360 going to be able to say, Okay, we're just going 202 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:01.320 to try to make you uncomfortable and not let you 203 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.600 get everything at the pace that you want, the style 204 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:06.399 that you want, and we're going to dare you to 205 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.799 just go beat us one on one at times. And 206 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:10.320 I don't know if they've got the guys to do 207 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:12.480 that consistently. Same thing with Louisvill, to be honest with you. 208 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.240 So anyways, I still think Louisvill basketball has got a 209 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:17.840 chance to find their way to the tournament. I say 210 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.759 that now and I'm not telling you that. I'm not 211 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.840 guaranteeing you that it happens. I'm not, you know, making 212 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.519 any kind of wager. I won't be stunned if they 213 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:27.399 don't end up finding a way in the tournament. But 214 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:31.799 I think competition matters, and you played a good team 215 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:33.559 last night. Now what I do worry about is when 216 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:35.799 you play those good teams, man, losing by seven or 217 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:38.240 eight would still be a result fans don't want because 218 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.759 you want to win, But losing by twenty something is 219 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:42.080 going to keep it to where you don't really even 220 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.799 get good value in playing those good teams because you 221 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.879 know you got killed. I mean, Ole miss was below 222 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:51.360 Louisville in the net and in the Ken Palm, I believe, 223 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.559 and they came in and beat you about twenty something points. 224 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:57.240 So you know that's not a good result. But I 225 00:09:57.240 --> 00:10:01.399 think Pat Kelcey is the exact kind of guy and 226 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.559 coach that you want to deal with this. He's not 227 00:10:04.600 --> 00:10:06.679 gonna feel sorry for himself. This is where his energy 228 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:10.799 and his personality and really just his DNA can really 229 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:14.080 help you, because it would be easy to just feel like, okay, 230 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.120 well it is what it is. We'll just we'll try 231 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.200 our best, but man, nobody should be expecting us to 232 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.799 make the tournament now, And no coach would ever say that, 233 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.279 but they would go through the motions and they would 234 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.279 really try to give you some excuses. And that's not 235 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:27.600 what he's going to do. I don't know if he's 236 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.320 going to figure it out as far as how he 237 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.000 can get the most out of this team that now 238 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:34.039 is really playing only seven guys, and they are limited 239 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.919 at point guard, and they're limited in the front court. 240 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:39.399 Like it's not ideal, And I have no clue if 241 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.759 it's going to work out or not. But I do 242 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:44.840 think he's the kind of guy that will not only 243 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.679 put everything he can, every ounce of energy to figure 244 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.360 it out, but he'll keep these guys motivated to where 245 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.519 they won't be like the culture is going to be 246 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:54.759 in a good place for something like this happening. Now, 247 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.840 does that result in wins? Only time will tell. We'll 248 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:00.679 reset in the five o'clock out as far as just 249 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.399 you know, the specifics when it comes to the offense 250 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.720 and where I think they need to retool some stuff. 251 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.440 All right, So some news on the football side, and 252 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.559 it is signing day, and I got to tell you this, 253 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.039 This is probably not something I should say, but I'm 254 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.960 just gonna be honest with you. I am very, very 255 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.840 very happy that, like we don't have to try to 256 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:23.039 make signing day a radio thing anymore, because even before 257 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:28.399 nil and before the portal meaning you know, now nowadays 258 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.320 high school football is high school fotball. Recruiting is still valuable, 259 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.440 but it's just it's not anywhere near as sexy as 260 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.399 getting a big name in the portal that you've watched 261 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.919 play college basketball for multiple years that you know is good. 262 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.879 Like nobody gets you know, bricked up for a big 263 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:47.200 time high school recruit like they used to. Still, if 264 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:49.000 you're getting a really good player that you know has 265 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:51.000 offers from just about everybody and he's a four or 266 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:55.360 five store, yeah you're gonna be excited. But I hated 267 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.480 when we had the previous world of college athletics where 268 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:00.120 signing day was a big deal and like you, you 269 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:04.080 try to make it radio appropriate and it just it 270 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.759 fell flat. Like I would know that I'm talking about. Oh, 271 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.000 they just got the facts in this high three star 272 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.559 offensive lineman from Northeast Ohio. He's he's faxed in his 273 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:17.200 letter of intent. Let's talk about him, and like, I 274 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:19.120 don't know, none of us on the radio would ever 275 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:21.639 know anything about these guys. We wouldn't know them if 276 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:24.960 they walked in and sat down in the studio and 277 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:28.799 I could read to you like there's stats, but like, 278 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.080 you know, that's not that's not interesting. I mean, so 279 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.320 at one point I just completely stopped really acknowledging that 280 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:37.759 it went on. And then now many years later, I realized, 281 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:39.519 like even if we were in the previous world, like 282 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.039 it's just not good for what we do here on 283 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:44.559 this show and really in radio, but you know it is. 284 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.720 It is a component to your program, right like you 285 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.840 went on the football field with wins and losses. You know, 286 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.320 you build your roster with the portal, and that's where 287 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.240 I think it matters most. But still high school recruiting 288 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.440 is a component and Louisville today, you know, I'm sure 289 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:01.720 coach brom i ha didn' get a chance to hear 290 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.840 his press conference, but I am sure that he talked 291 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.399 highly of these guys that he thinks can can be 292 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:09.919 developed into good players and helping keep this louisvill football 293 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.480 program heading in the right direction. But I'm reading an 294 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:14.960 article here from Rick Bozig and I haven't got to 295 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.240 read it read it in its entirety, but apparently there's 296 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.840 some flipping that was going on, and that's that's what 297 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:23.720 you want, right, kids committed elsewhere they show up on 298 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.120 signing day sim with Louisville instead. I mean, obviously, if 299 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:29.200 it's a good player, that's that's that's that's what you want. 300 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.720 But the article here says this is the headline, Rick 301 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.759 Bosyg at Louisville Jeff Brohm trust his gut over college 302 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.840 football recruiting rankings. And then Rick also mentioned at the 303 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:44.279 time he was writing the article. While publishing this, Louisville 304 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:48.600 jumped up in recruiting rankings compared to where they were 305 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.279 this morning. And I would say that's mostly because of 306 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.919 the flawed system that is recruiting rankings to where it's 307 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:59.200 based way more off of quantity rather than quality. So 308 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.240 like they had a very small class as it was, 309 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:03.519 so just by adding guy like there's a guy who 310 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.360 flipped from Ohio a max school and his his along 311 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:10.240 with some others that flipped, led to Louisville jumping up 312 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.320 in rankings, and who knows, maybe those guys are stars. 313 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.159 I don't know. I don't know. Who they are, just 314 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.600 being honest with you. But you wouldn't think that would 315 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:19.080 really jump you up. But again, if you have a 316 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:20.960 small class, there's really no way for you to be 317 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:23.240 ranked high at all. So when Louisville was ranked dead 318 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:25.879 last in the ACC in recruiting rankings, which they may 319 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:27.960 still be right now, like, that's never a good look. 320 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.519 There's no way to shine that up and make it 321 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:33.639 not look, you know, bad. But I tried to emphasize 322 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.679 then that it's way more about how many guys you 323 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.240 have than it is about the kind of guys you have. 324 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.360 And Jeff Brohm did confirm today he actually said it 325 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:44.440 last week that they're going to continue to really utilize 326 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.000 the portal as they should. Jeff in two years at 327 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.480 Louisville has really really shown that he's a guy that 328 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:51.279 if you've got a year or two maybe more than 329 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.559 that left, especially on the offensive side of the ball, 330 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:55.840 especially if you're a skill position player or a quarterback, 331 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.279 you should want to come and play here because he 332 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.879 will put you in a position to six seed. And 333 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.159 we'll see what happens with with Shuck. But I wouldn't 334 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.840 I mean Shuck being successful at Louisville and him playing 335 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.519 for Brom, who is widely respected as an offensive mind 336 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.679 in the football world, not only in college but also 337 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.080 in the NFL. Like that's going to benefit him and 338 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.960 I think Louisville may turn into And again some people 339 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.360 would say, well, man, it shows you that you can't 340 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.720 develop a quarterback. No, Jeff Brom can develop a quarterback. 341 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:24.480 He's done that before in his time as a coach. 342 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:26.799 But he's going to utilize this new system where he 343 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:29.000 can go get a guy that's played college football. There's 344 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.000 not a whole lot of like developing from the ground up. 345 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:35.639 It's taken a guy that you know has cut his teeth, 346 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:37.440 that has some ability and you can get the most 347 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.840 out of him. So the other side is like a 348 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.519 Kentucky Kucky. This isn't even a knock. It's just a 349 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:46.159 good example. And I'm not trying to kick him either 350 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:48.080 down because clearly they're not in a good spot when 351 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.320 it comes to football. But Mark Jubes has had you know, 352 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:53.960 success in Kentucky than nobody else has ever had. Clearly 353 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:55.480 it's not going well now, but you know one thing 354 00:15:55.519 --> 00:16:00.320 he's never done developed a quarterback, any quarterback. The Ted 355 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.679 success at Kentucky was not a guy they developed and recruited. 356 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.080 I mean Stephen Johnson was a guy they got from 357 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:07.919 like Juco that ended up like they didn't even want 358 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:09.320 to play him. He just got He ended up being 359 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.480 out there because of guys getting hurt. Drew Barker and 360 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:15.919 Patrick Toles two guys that came into Kentucky that were really, 361 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.759 really highly regarded. They they mean it didn't work out. 362 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:25.039 Let's be real, So will Evis transfer so again and 363 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.519 moving forward? Maybe that's what Kentucky does, but they keep 364 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:29.360 changing offensive coordinators and that makes it to where you 365 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.279 don't know which quarterback fits. But my point is it 366 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:33.200 won't be looked at as, oh, he can develop any 367 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.720 quarterback if every year it's a known thing, who's Jeff 368 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:38.320 Brom gonna go get to play QB? Because I think 369 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:39.960 it's going to be looked at as a highly coveted 370 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.519 spot for guys in the portal at that position, and 371 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.840 there's always gonna be guys there Right now. Maybe you 372 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:47.799 swing and miss, but I think you got more out 373 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:52.159 of Plumber than most people would have. And clearly we 374 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.000 look at Tyler Shuck. I mean he was in a 375 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.320 position to where they didn't use him like the previous 376 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.600 schools did. He stayed healthy and he was really good, 377 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:01.360 and I hate the numbers don't back up that because 378 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:04.000 he just because he's a savvy guy, Like he burned 379 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:05.960 a lot of balls, Like how many times did he 380 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:07.880 just throw it away because he had to make a play. 381 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:09.680 Sometimes he threw it away and I feel like he 382 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:10.960 should have run. But then I'm thinking, you know what, 383 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.400 this guy's in college for his seventh year. He's been 384 00:17:13.400 --> 00:17:16.839 broken in half. Seemingly, I would probably be a little 385 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:21.240 hesitant to go seek contact as well. So again, you 386 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:26.000 may miss on some, but I trust Jeff Brohm wholeheartedly, 387 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.920 especially when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. And look with Plumber, 388 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:31.240 I don't even think the kid end up being that good. 389 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:32.799 When he went back to WKU last year and I 390 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.640 can't even think of his name, but they thought they 391 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:36.880 had a done deal with this kid from WKU that 392 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.440 was transferring, and then he decided because Nil was Western 393 00:17:41.480 --> 00:17:43.559 Kentucky did give a good in il situation to him 394 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.920 to where he decided to stay WKU. And that's really 395 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.160 when they reverted to having to go get Jack Plumber. 396 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.759 And you know, Jack Plumber's on a practice squad, which 397 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:54.240 it's not something that you know, probably means a lot 398 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:57.519 to some people. But I think Jack will probably thank 399 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.160 Jeff brom for him even being in the NFL at 400 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.680 any level for even one year. That's all it is, 401 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.079