Speaker 1: Day. Now here's nit coffee. I feel like I'm playing
Speaker 1: catch up here because I feel like the four o'clock
Speaker 1: hour is starting now, but it's actually four twenty five.
Speaker 1: So a little late clock management never been my strong suit,
Speaker 1: but today it's okay because I feel like it was
Speaker 1: worth it. So usually this wouldn't have been a day
Speaker 1: where we would bring on a guest like Jay Williams,
Speaker 1: but you know, it made sense to do it. We
Speaker 1: were a little bit delayed in getting him on. Therefore
Speaker 1: we ran over the four o'clock hour, and he cussed
Speaker 1: a couple of times we had hit the dump button,
Speaker 1: and you know, I assumed it worked. I hope it worked.
Speaker 1: I didn't get yelled at by anybody like how do
Speaker 1: you let somebody say that over the air? Now if
Speaker 1: you hear it on streaming, which I think the streaming
Speaker 1: works as well as far as the dump button, but
Speaker 1: there was a time where it didn't to where if
Speaker 1: you were listening on the stream and not on you know,
Speaker 1: treashial radio, you would be able to hear but it,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't anything juicy. He just I think
Speaker 1: he said to he said the S word twice, which
Speaker 1: of course is a word you can't say, but a
Speaker 1: good conversation. I appreciate him, you know, wanting to come
Speaker 1: on and and uh and kind of explain how it
Speaker 1: all kind of played out from his end with with
Speaker 1: the the disaster that was the previous regime. And we
Speaker 1: you know, today's not a day where we want to
Speaker 1: relive that or or even discuss the what happened before
Speaker 1: Pat Kelsey got here. But I do appreciate Jay making
Speaker 1: some time and I guess, you know, kind of explaining
Speaker 1: his side of it and also talking a little bit
Speaker 1: about Pat Kelsey and you know, the Kentucky side of
Speaker 1: things as well. So we did have somebody on the
Speaker 1: text on that this makes total sense. Uh and and uh,
Speaker 1: this is a nice reminder for me that you know,
Speaker 1: you get listeners different times of the day, for different
Speaker 1: amounts of time. You get people who listen that follow
Speaker 1: you on social media. You get people who listen that
Speaker 1: don't even have social media. You get people that that
Speaker 1: you know, it's just part of their commute and maybe
Speaker 1: one day they tune in and they like what's going
Speaker 1: on and they stick around. Maybe one day they tune
Speaker 1: in and they say, yay, I'm gonna go listen to
Speaker 1: you know oldies to turn on the legendary Terry Miners
Speaker 1: on a you know who is just one station up
Speaker 1: from US, right seven ninety to eight forty. But this
Speaker 1: text was you know it says, I tuned in at
Speaker 1: four o'clock thinking you were off and they were playing
Speaker 1: national radio. Then I realized Jay Williams doesn't work for us,
Speaker 1: if far, he works for ESPN, And sure enough I
Speaker 1: realize he's on your show. So yeah, I explained sort
Speaker 1: of how this all came about at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the show, So if you're interested, you can go check
Speaker 1: it out. But I do want to kind of get
Speaker 1: back on track here, because a lot to get to
Speaker 1: if you are just hearing us for the first time.
Speaker 1: You weren't with us at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: As you could expect, we had to discuss the you know,
Speaker 1: the the loss last night. I said this at the beginning,
Speaker 1: and it's worth saying not to you know, troll Louisville fans.
Speaker 1: I'm a loivel fan myself, but it's something that I
Speaker 1: think fans should at least be aware of if they're
Speaker 1: not you lost to a team that's better than you.
Speaker 1: I mean ol Miss is a better basketball team than Louisville,
Speaker 1: and they might have even been a better team, probably
Speaker 1: would have been a better team if you had Case
Speaker 1: and pryor now, the game might have looked a little
Speaker 1: bit different. Maybe there could have been some big momentum
Speaker 1: swings to where Louisville could have really got the crowd
Speaker 1: behind him. But you know the old we're all result itself.
Speaker 1: It's not crazy now. Losing at home twice now by
Speaker 1: twenty plus points to the only two good teams that
Speaker 1: have made a trip to the Young Center this year,
Speaker 1: and you've got Duke coming in on Sunday not ideal.
Speaker 1: And I know there are some fans that kind of
Speaker 1: felt like you know, And I'm not telling anybody had
Speaker 1: a fan. I'm not criticizing you, I you know, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure I view things and have a mindset about
Speaker 1: stuff that is different than others. So I just think
Speaker 1: for those that are like, well, hey, I don't care
Speaker 1: about injuries, I don't care about anything. You don't get
Speaker 1: you don't get blown out like that at home. This
Speaker 1: is Louisville basketball. Like I hear you, And I know
Speaker 1: why people have that opinion. I know why, like Louis
Speaker 1: of basketball is something that, to be fair, when luiall
Speaker 1: would get killed by these kind of teams with the
Speaker 1: previous regime, we'd be upset. So like, I don't blame
Speaker 1: anybody for being upset, I get it, although I do
Speaker 1: think like benefited out is a little bit more deserving
Speaker 1: for Pat Kelsey here, just given the fact that one
Speaker 1: he's already shown what they did in the Bahamas that
Speaker 1: they are, you know, they're on a much different planet
Speaker 1: than they were previously. And also I just think it
Speaker 1: kind of came to a head last night. I think
Speaker 1: they came out with I think good energy. You know,
Speaker 1: they were aware that Old Miss was going to be
Speaker 1: really really physical and push them around, and they knew
Speaker 1: they needed to really collectively try to work on the
Speaker 1: backboard with Casin out, and early on they did a
Speaker 1: good job, like no Water. But I don't think he played
Speaker 1: a good game, and you know, I don't think it
Speaker 1: was a good matchup for him overall. But he came
Speaker 1: out and he rebounded, and I thought you could tell
Speaker 1: there was an emphasis, Hey, I gotta step it up
Speaker 1: on the boards because we don't have Casein. So I
Speaker 1: think they came out with the mindset, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they were feeling sorry for themselves, but I just
Speaker 1: think once you start to miss that many open shots
Speaker 1: and old miss is able to get the game played
Speaker 1: at the pace they want and slow you down. They've
Speaker 1: been able to you know, not to give you the
Speaker 1: whole former player thing, because I didn't play basketball at
Speaker 1: any level close to the one that we're talking about
Speaker 1: here at Louisville, but put it in any sport you played,
Speaker 1: rather it be high school, college, whatever. There's certain things
Speaker 1: that I think can happen that can be a little demoralizing.
Speaker 1: And I think for them to hold strong defensively for
Speaker 1: the majority of a possession within the shot clock and
Speaker 1: then get burnt back door like it's your fault, but
Speaker 1: like you know, it's almost it's not like getting dunked on,
Speaker 1: but like you got burned. And I think it just
Speaker 1: a collective There was a collective, a collective effort from
Speaker 1: the jump that I think you could tell they were
Speaker 1: trying to kind of block it all out, meaning the injuries,
Speaker 1: meaning you know, just the probably are worn out. I
Speaker 1: know they had a little bit of a break when
Speaker 1: they got back from the Bahamas, but still, I mean
Speaker 1: that's three games in three days. One of them went
Speaker 1: to overtime. Certain guys played a ton of minutes. So
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses, but I think i'll quote my
Speaker 1: man who is he? We just said Jay Williams on
Speaker 1: my Man John Fanta. He's kind of become too big
Speaker 1: time for us. I mean, maybe I'll ask him to
Speaker 1: come on soon and he'll be able to make some
Speaker 1: time for him. But John used to come on this
Speaker 1: show pretty regularly and he always used to say this,
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's Some would say it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's how you can kind of dress up an excuse,
Speaker 1: but I think injuries and not only not having Prior
Speaker 1: and Korn and Trey Ora, but just kind of mentally
Speaker 1: knowing that you're this is your roster, like you have
Speaker 1: basically seven guys. Now, like these guys can have the
Speaker 1: best culture and the best mindset, but like those things
Speaker 1: are just gonna get you. It's the human element of sports.
Speaker 1: So it's not This is where I'm quoting my man
Speaker 1: Fanta Milf man, I love Fanta, I said Milf, and
Speaker 1: Austin lift at his head up because I know he
Speaker 1: likes MILFs. But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about man, I love Fanta. I want a shirt that says,
Speaker 1: man I love Panta. M I l f get it.
Speaker 1: And because John Fanta is the man is the first
Speaker 1: thing I thought. And I knew John Fanta before he
Speaker 1: became this college basketball star. I just want people to
Speaker 1: know that. But it's not This is what Phantas said,
Speaker 1: and he's right. It's not necessarily an excuse. It's an explanation.
Speaker 1: Like I think everything kind of just crumbled last night
Speaker 1: because of a variety of and I don't think that
Speaker 1: they quit, but I think you could just tell body language. Man,
Speaker 1: they were trying to stay locked in, but they were
Speaker 1: pretty defeated once this thing got to midway through the
Speaker 1: second half because they couldn't buy a shot. They couldn't
Speaker 1: really get anything going to get better looks. And then
Speaker 1: when they would get the best looks, I mean early
Speaker 1: on they were getting I think, really good looks and
Speaker 1: they weren't making them. And then you started to get
Speaker 1: tougher looks. And technically, I guess within pat system, they
Speaker 1: are considered to be decent shots and shots he wants
Speaker 1: them to take. But they couldn't buy a basket. Man,
Speaker 1: five of thirty from three is just not the recipe.
Speaker 1: So I hate it as much as anybody that that
Speaker 1: was what happened last night, a beat down on your
Speaker 1: home floor. Eighty six to sixty three was the score.
Speaker 1: I don't like that Duke's the next game. I don't
Speaker 1: like that they really have seven scholarship players. And I
Speaker 1: now will tell you I have no clue what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen with this season. I still think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a lot of games in the ACC, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not talking they're gonna win eighteen of
Speaker 1: the twenty. But like you guys, realize ACC stinks and
Speaker 1: O case In Pryor was a factor and he was
Speaker 1: a big part of how you beat how you beat
Speaker 1: West Virginia, how you beat Indiana. So like not having him,
Speaker 1: clearly that's you're not the same team. But if you
Speaker 1: can beat those teams even without prior, I think you
Speaker 1: can beat a lot of the ACC. And hate to
Speaker 1: be the I told you so guy, But like I
Speaker 1: told you so, the reason I wanted to really emphasize
Speaker 1: how badly the ACC has fallen as a basketball league
Speaker 1: in the last decade. Yesterday was because it was Night
Speaker 1: one of the acc SEC Challenge, and I knew we
Speaker 1: were going to get our butts handed to us as
Speaker 1: a conference, and that's exactly what happened nine to one
Speaker 1: last night in favor of the SEC. It was nice though,
Speaker 1: the one loss being Kentucky, although you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think I think that game doesn't mean Kentucky won't still
Speaker 1: be pretty good, but they ran into a team that
Speaker 1: tried to take away what they want to do. And
Speaker 1: we'll get into Kentucky coming up here at the end
Speaker 1: of the four o'clock hour, because you know, I think
Speaker 1: they're dealing with a similar situation to where teams are
Speaker 1: going to be able to say, Okay, we're just going
Speaker 1: to try to make you uncomfortable and not let you
Speaker 1: get everything at the pace that you want, the style
Speaker 1: that you want, and we're going to dare you to
Speaker 1: just go beat us one on one at times. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got the guys to do
Speaker 1: that consistently. Same thing with Louisvill, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I still think Louisvill basketball has got a
Speaker 1: chance to find their way to the tournament. I say
Speaker 1: that now and I'm not telling you that. I'm not
Speaker 1: guaranteeing you that it happens. I'm not, you know, making
Speaker 1: any kind of wager. I won't be stunned if they
Speaker 1: don't end up finding a way in the tournament. But
Speaker 1: I think competition matters, and you played a good team
Speaker 1: last night. Now what I do worry about is when
Speaker 1: you play those good teams, man, losing by seven or
Speaker 1: eight would still be a result fans don't want because
Speaker 1: you want to win, But losing by twenty something is
Speaker 1: going to keep it to where you don't really even
Speaker 1: get good value in playing those good teams because you
Speaker 1: know you got killed. I mean, Ole miss was below
Speaker 1: Louisville in the net and in the Ken Palm, I believe,
Speaker 1: and they came in and beat you about twenty something points.
Speaker 1: So you know that's not a good result. But I
Speaker 1: think Pat Kelcey is the exact kind of guy and
Speaker 1: coach that you want to deal with this. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for himself. This is where his energy
Speaker 1: and his personality and really just his DNA can really
Speaker 1: help you, because it would be easy to just feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: well it is what it is. We'll just we'll try
Speaker 1: our best, but man, nobody should be expecting us to
Speaker 1: make the tournament now, And no coach would ever say that,
Speaker 1: but they would go through the motions and they would
Speaker 1: really try to give you some excuses. And that's not
Speaker 1: what he's going to do. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to figure it out as far as how he
Speaker 1: can get the most out of this team that now
Speaker 1: is really playing only seven guys, and they are limited
Speaker 1: at point guard, and they're limited in the front court.
Speaker 1: Like it's not ideal, And I have no clue if
Speaker 1: it's going to work out or not. But I do
Speaker 1: think he's the kind of guy that will not only
Speaker 1: put everything he can, every ounce of energy to figure
Speaker 1: it out, but he'll keep these guys motivated to where
Speaker 1: they won't be like the culture is going to be
Speaker 1: in a good place for something like this happening. Now,
Speaker 1: does that result in wins? Only time will tell. We'll
Speaker 1: reset in the five o'clock out as far as just
Speaker 1: you know, the specifics when it comes to the offense
Speaker 1: and where I think they need to retool some stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, So some news on the football side, and
Speaker 1: it is signing day, and I got to tell you this,
Speaker 1: This is probably not something I should say, but I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be honest with you. I am very, very
Speaker 1: very happy that, like we don't have to try to
Speaker 1: make signing day a radio thing anymore, because even before
Speaker 1: nil and before the portal meaning you know, now nowadays
Speaker 1: high school football is high school fotball. Recruiting is still valuable,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's not anywhere near as sexy as
Speaker 1: getting a big name in the portal that you've watched
Speaker 1: play college basketball for multiple years that you know is good.
Speaker 1: Like nobody gets you know, bricked up for a big
Speaker 1: time high school recruit like they used to. Still, if
Speaker 1: you're getting a really good player that you know has
Speaker 1: offers from just about everybody and he's a four or
Speaker 1: five store, yeah you're gonna be excited. But I hated
Speaker 1: when we had the previous world of college athletics where
Speaker 1: signing day was a big deal and like you, you
Speaker 1: try to make it radio appropriate and it just it
Speaker 1: fell flat. Like I would know that I'm talking about. Oh,
Speaker 1: they just got the facts in this high three star
Speaker 1: offensive lineman from Northeast Ohio. He's he's faxed in his
Speaker 1: letter of intent. Let's talk about him, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, none of us on the radio would ever
Speaker 1: know anything about these guys. We wouldn't know them if
Speaker 1: they walked in and sat down in the studio and
Speaker 1: I could read to you like there's stats, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's not that's not interesting. I mean, so
Speaker 1: at one point I just completely stopped really acknowledging that
Speaker 1: it went on. And then now many years later, I realized,
Speaker 1: like even if we were in the previous world, like
Speaker 1: it's just not good for what we do here on
Speaker 1: this show and really in radio, but you know it is.
Speaker 1: It is a component to your program, right like you
Speaker 1: went on the football field with wins and losses. You know,
Speaker 1: you build your roster with the portal, and that's where
Speaker 1: I think it matters most. But still high school recruiting
Speaker 1: is a component and Louisville today, you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: coach brom i ha didn' get a chance to hear
Speaker 1: his press conference, but I am sure that he talked
Speaker 1: highly of these guys that he thinks can can be
Speaker 1: developed into good players and helping keep this louisvill football
Speaker 1: program heading in the right direction. But I'm reading an
Speaker 1: article here from Rick Bozig and I haven't got to
Speaker 1: read it read it in its entirety, but apparently there's
Speaker 1: some flipping that was going on, and that's that's what
Speaker 1: you want, right, kids committed elsewhere they show up on
Speaker 1: signing day sim with Louisville instead. I mean, obviously, if
Speaker 1: it's a good player, that's that's that's that's what you want.
Speaker 1: But the article here says this is the headline, Rick
Speaker 1: Bosyg at Louisville Jeff Brohm trust his gut over college
Speaker 1: football recruiting rankings. And then Rick also mentioned at the
Speaker 1: time he was writing the article. While publishing this, Louisville
Speaker 1: jumped up in recruiting rankings compared to where they were
Speaker 1: this morning. And I would say that's mostly because of
Speaker 1: the flawed system that is recruiting rankings to where it's
Speaker 1: based way more off of quantity rather than quality. So
Speaker 1: like they had a very small class as it was,
Speaker 1: so just by adding guy like there's a guy who
Speaker 1: flipped from Ohio a max school and his his along
Speaker 1: with some others that flipped, led to Louisville jumping up
Speaker 1: in rankings, and who knows, maybe those guys are stars.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Who they are, just
Speaker 1: being honest with you. But you wouldn't think that would
Speaker 1: really jump you up. But again, if you have a
Speaker 1: small class, there's really no way for you to be
Speaker 1: ranked high at all. So when Louisville was ranked dead
Speaker 1: last in the ACC in recruiting rankings, which they may
Speaker 1: still be right now, like, that's never a good look.
Speaker 1: There's no way to shine that up and make it
Speaker 1: not look, you know, bad. But I tried to emphasize
Speaker 1: then that it's way more about how many guys you
Speaker 1: have than it is about the kind of guys you have.
Speaker 1: And Jeff Brohm did confirm today he actually said it
Speaker 1: last week that they're going to continue to really utilize
Speaker 1: the portal as they should. Jeff in two years at
Speaker 1: Louisville has really really shown that he's a guy that
Speaker 1: if you've got a year or two maybe more than
Speaker 1: that left, especially on the offensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a skill position player or a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you should want to come and play here because he
Speaker 1: will put you in a position to six seed. And
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with with Shuck. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I mean Shuck being successful at Louisville and him playing
Speaker 1: for Brom, who is widely respected as an offensive mind
Speaker 1: in the football world, not only in college but also
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like that's going to benefit him and
Speaker 1: I think Louisville may turn into And again some people
Speaker 1: would say, well, man, it shows you that you can't
Speaker 1: develop a quarterback. No, Jeff Brom can develop a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's done that before in his time as a coach.
Speaker 1: But he's going to utilize this new system where he
Speaker 1: can go get a guy that's played college football. There's
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of like developing from the ground up.
Speaker 1: It's taken a guy that you know has cut his teeth,
Speaker 1: that has some ability and you can get the most
Speaker 1: out of him. So the other side is like a
Speaker 1: Kentucky Kucky. This isn't even a knock. It's just a
Speaker 1: good example. And I'm not trying to kick him either
Speaker 1: down because clearly they're not in a good spot when
Speaker 1: it comes to football. But Mark Jubes has had you know,
Speaker 1: success in Kentucky than nobody else has ever had. Clearly
Speaker 1: it's not going well now, but you know one thing
Speaker 1: he's never done developed a quarterback, any quarterback. The Ted
Speaker 1: success at Kentucky was not a guy they developed and recruited.
Speaker 1: I mean Stephen Johnson was a guy they got from
Speaker 1: like Juco that ended up like they didn't even want
Speaker 1: to play him. He just got He ended up being
Speaker 1: out there because of guys getting hurt. Drew Barker and
Speaker 1: Patrick Toles two guys that came into Kentucky that were really,
Speaker 1: really highly regarded. They they mean it didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, So will Evis transfer so again and
Speaker 1: moving forward? Maybe that's what Kentucky does, but they keep
Speaker 1: changing offensive coordinators and that makes it to where you
Speaker 1: don't know which quarterback fits. But my point is it
Speaker 1: won't be looked at as, oh, he can develop any
Speaker 1: quarterback if every year it's a known thing, who's Jeff
Speaker 1: Brom gonna go get to play QB? Because I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be looked at as a highly coveted
Speaker 1: spot for guys in the portal at that position, and
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be guys there Right now. Maybe you
Speaker 1: swing and miss, but I think you got more out
Speaker 1: of Plumber than most people would have. And clearly we
Speaker 1: look at Tyler Shuck. I mean he was in a
Speaker 1: position to where they didn't use him like the previous
Speaker 1: schools did. He stayed healthy and he was really good,
Speaker 1: and I hate the numbers don't back up that because
Speaker 1: he just because he's a savvy guy, Like he burned
Speaker 1: a lot of balls, Like how many times did he
Speaker 1: just throw it away because he had to make a play.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he threw it away and I feel like he
Speaker 1: should have run. But then I'm thinking, you know what,
Speaker 1: this guy's in college for his seventh year. He's been
Speaker 1: broken in half. Seemingly, I would probably be a little
Speaker 1: hesitant to go seek contact as well. So again, you
Speaker 1: may miss on some, but I trust Jeff Brohm wholeheartedly,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. And look with Plumber,
Speaker 1: I don't even think the kid end up being that good.
Speaker 1: When he went back to WKU last year and I
Speaker 1: can't even think of his name, but they thought they
Speaker 1: had a done deal with this kid from WKU that
Speaker 1: was transferring, and then he decided because Nil was Western
Speaker 1: Kentucky did give a good in il situation to him
Speaker 1: to where he decided to stay WKU. And that's really
Speaker 1: when they reverted to having to go get Jack Plumber.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jack Plumber's on a practice squad, which
Speaker 1: it's not something that you know, probably means a lot
Speaker 1: to some people. But I think Jack will probably thank
Speaker 1: Jeff brom for him even being in the NFL at
Speaker 1: any level for even one year. That's all it is,
Speaker 1: because that's that's what Jeff does, all right. So some
Speaker 1: awards have gone out. This actually came out yesterday and
Speaker 1: I missed it, but there were a handful of Louisville
Speaker 1: football players yesterday that received All Conference honors. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I personally think that, you know, there's some guys that
Speaker 1: probably deserve to be recognized and honored more than they
Speaker 1: were by the ACC. I don't do the whole like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're out to get us, they conspire, but
Speaker 1: like there's certain like the one thing that doesn't make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense is that if there's somebody that
Speaker 1: is comparable statistically each week to a Louisville receiver or
Speaker 1: a Louisville quarterback or running back or tight end or
Speaker 1: lineman whatever, or maybe they're not even as impressive, but
Speaker 1: it's close. And they are from North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Clemson,
Speaker 1: Wake Forest, Florida State. Like they're just gonna get the bump,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter. These guys care about about
Speaker 1: money more than they do about anything. They're not They're
Speaker 1: not getting caught up about did I make the O
Speaker 1: a CC weekly honor thing? But it is at least
Speaker 1: something that you can you can add to the resume.
Speaker 1: And some will say it's worth it's worth nothing, but
Speaker 1: you know it is an honor. But nonetheless, j Corey
Speaker 1: Brooks the only first teamer as far as the All
Speaker 1: ACC selection on the second team, Isaac Brown, Ashton Jealotti,
Speaker 1: and Quincy Riley honorable mentioned shuck and then Isaac Brown
Speaker 1: was listed as an all Purpose honorable mention, when Roe
Speaker 1: Mills on the old line, Michael Michael Gonzalez on the
Speaker 1: O line, Pete Niagra on the old line, Big Romon
Speaker 1: per Year defensive tackle, Stan Kuan Clark linebacker, Corey Thornton cornerback,
Speaker 1: Brock Travelstead our kicker of course. So a lot of
Speaker 1: guys being honored. And then the big award that just
Speaker 1: got handed out within the last hour or so is
Speaker 1: ACC Freshman of the Year. And who do you think
Speaker 1: it went to? It went to Isaac Brown. So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say it because I it's what I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to do, right, share my honest opinion. I believe those
Speaker 1: guys are coming back, both Duke Watson and Isaac Brown,
Speaker 1: and they both have done something recently on social media
Speaker 1: to kind of insinuate that they are going to be
Speaker 1: back and people need to chill, and that makes me
Speaker 1: feel like a little bit little bit better. But I'm
Speaker 1: going to assume they're here. I'm not going to talk
Speaker 1: about him like if we can get them back, but
Speaker 1: I just like, until until we get like post Spring,
Speaker 1: I'm like, until the portal closes to where you can't
Speaker 1: leave anymore, and that's way down the line. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: still just kind of think in the back of my mind, like,
Speaker 1: don't be totally shocked if somebody swoops in Tampers and
Speaker 1: offers an insane amount of money and Louisvill's gonna make
Speaker 1: it right WITHINIL. But you know, can they compete with
Speaker 1: the best programs in the country. Probably not, because you know,
Speaker 1: not many can. And if there's a guy that you know, Isaac,
Speaker 1: I think is a real interesting case study because we're
Speaker 1: still relatively new in this world of an IL and
Speaker 1: the portal and all that and I don't think Louisvill's
Speaker 1: had a guy or I guess I should say guys
Speaker 1: like Duke Watson was actually rated higher than Isaac Brown
Speaker 1: coming out of high school. But those two guys specifically,
Speaker 1: we are in a position now where you know that
Speaker 1: anybody in the country would want them if they hit
Speaker 1: the portal. We've had good players that clearly have been
Speaker 1: able to bounce up. I mean, Jordan Watkins was phenomenal
Speaker 1: this year for All miss but like these two guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is where you probably need
Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it. It's just part of
Speaker 1: the game now. But these are the two guys where
Speaker 1: you probably know, like, yeah, there's got to be tampering
Speaker 1: going on, because I'm sure the big time programs with
Speaker 1: the unlimited resources, who have been able to pretty much
Speaker 1: get anybody they want historically, they look at Louisville as
Speaker 1: a program will go take their guy, and I hope
Speaker 1: they don't and I pray that they don't, but we
Speaker 1: shall see. All right, quick break, we'll come back on
Speaker 1: the other side and wrap up the four o'clock hour
Speaker 1: we've got. We'll get a kind of a clean reset
Speaker 1: here in the five o'clock hour, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: I want to get to before we get out of here,
Speaker 1: including more of the matchups tonight in the acc SEC
Speaker 1: Challenge College Football Playoff Committee. I mean, just get rid
Speaker 1: of it. Just go back to a formula police and
Speaker 1: of course we'll continue to talk some hoops as well,
Speaker 1: So keep it locked right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 1: the text line here as we wrap up the four
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. Good text that came in earlier that wouldn't
Speaker 1: have thought of it, but I think I'm with you.
Speaker 1: This text says, Nick, I learned something last night as
Speaker 1: a Louisville fan. I'm not going to take as much
Speaker 1: satisfaction in Mark Pulp losing as I did Calip Perry losing.
Speaker 1: I'm going to miss that. I hadn't thought of it,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm kind of as I said, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: It's kind of got a point because I think I'm
Speaker 1: with them, Like, don't you don't you remember the satisfaction
Speaker 1: that was there when Cali Perry would lose and you
Speaker 1: know he would come out and make excuses or not
Speaker 1: do an interview at all, or not do his radio
Speaker 1: stuff in press conference because he was just cal Bey
Speaker 1: and cal and was appointment and you knew that he would.
Speaker 1: You knew that he would probably make his fan base
Speaker 1: feel worse about him, and he would do it just
Speaker 1: because he could. Like he was arrogant, clearly stubborn and
Speaker 1: all that call him basketball Benni's And because you knew
Speaker 1: that it would, you know, put them in pain. You
Speaker 1: would be like, hell, yeah, as a Louisville fan, that's
Speaker 1: how rivalries work. But with Pope, like Pope lost, he
Speaker 1: was he was humble in defeat, he owned it. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find
Speaker 1: Kentucky fans being critical of him. But like they didn't
Speaker 1: melt down on him the way that I kind of
Speaker 1: thought that they would. And I get it because it
Speaker 1: would be a lunatic kind of reaction to think that
Speaker 1: you've hired the wrong coach because he lost his first game. Now,
Speaker 1: I do wonder if they didn't beat Duke. I'm curious
Speaker 1: what the vibe would be, because you know that win
Speaker 1: has a lot of value. I think Duke at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, despite right now coming up short
Speaker 1: in every game they've played against like a legitimate team,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be really good when it's all said and done.
Speaker 1: And I'm not happy they're coming to Louisville on Saturday
Speaker 1: or on Sunday, because that's you know, even if Louisville
Speaker 1: was fully healthy, Duke has the ability Like Duke's not
Speaker 1: one of those teams that you worry about, Okay, do
Speaker 1: we have enough talent, because they probably have more talent
Speaker 1: overall than anybody. You try to find ways to kind
Speaker 1: of limit what they do well and find a way
Speaker 1: to keep it close and win the game. That's what
Speaker 1: Kentucky did. I think either team play great and now
Speaker 1: when be honest with you, and it really just came
Speaker 1: down to late Andrew Carr made some man ones and
Speaker 1: they held on and they deserve a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for it. But you know, the Duke, when I think,
Speaker 1: really becomes less and it's gonna be valuable on selection Sunday.
Speaker 1: But I think, and I'm just trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: guess how Kentucky fans are going to react. But the
Speaker 1: loss to Clemson makes the Gonzaga game that they've got
Speaker 1: this Saturday in Seattle a much more, not not like
Speaker 1: you have to have it like you lose there, didn't
Speaker 1: mean the seasons. I mean, look, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: basketball to be played, and look, they're gonna play in
Speaker 1: a conference that has a lot of good teams to
Speaker 1: where really every night you play, for the most part,
Speaker 1: maybe other than a few games, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to get valuable wins because the SEC's
Speaker 1: loaded in basketball. So you know what I'm anxious to see,
Speaker 1: Like if they go to Gonzaga and they get beat
Speaker 1: and it's not like last night, it's more of just like, hey,
Speaker 1: they're just better than you. I still doubt you'd see
Speaker 1: people like losing their mind about Mark Pope, but I
Speaker 1: do think that'll be the first chance to see fans
Speaker 1: start to question, Okay, is this guy's philosophy, Like you know,
Speaker 1: what's he doing? Because I'm telling you and I probably
Speaker 1: need to just to stay away from the topic because
Speaker 1: it's just nerdy stuff for basketball dorks like myself. But
Speaker 1: both of the what Clemson did last night is the
Speaker 1: same things opponents are going to do to Louisville. Like
Speaker 1: both Louisville and Kentucky have coaches that are very analytically driven.
Speaker 1: They're both very much about you know, probability through numbers
Speaker 1: than they are about just like you know, eye test,
Speaker 1: gut feeling. And I think you can clearly have success
Speaker 1: doing it that way. But you know the ogs in
Speaker 1: college basketball, guys who just do at old school, like
Speaker 1: Chris Beard and Rick Barnes, who you know made it
Speaker 1: quite clear, we're gonna play in the half court, We're
Speaker 1: gonna beat you up, and we're not gonna let you
Speaker 1: get into what you want to do. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you have as many possessions as you want to have. Like,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean if you do that, you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Because West Virginia did that to Louisville and Louisville was
Speaker 1: able to hold on and beat them. Oklahoma did it
Speaker 1: and Louisville could have won that game. So like it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean if people control pace that you can't win,
Speaker 1: but you've got to have Like for example, for Mark Pope,
Speaker 1: I believe last night there really was no reason that
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have Brea in the game. Like he's a
Speaker 1: really good shooter, and yeah, he's a liability defensively, but
Speaker 1: you got to find a way to cover that up.
Speaker 1: You can't leave a fifty percent career three point shooter
Speaker 1: on the bench when you've got guys out there that
Speaker 1: can't make shots. And that's not to say the Pope's bam.
Speaker 1: I'm just stating, like these guys are very much set
Speaker 1: in what they want to do. I'm not calling them stubborn.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're wrong and it won't work.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think there needs to be some
Speaker 1: variation when the opponent has been able to keep you
Speaker 1: from playing at the pace that you want to play at.
Speaker 1: Last night for Kentucky, you know, when they let a
Speaker 1: Murray Williams dribble it out there and don't really have
Speaker 1: a lot of structure. You know, that's what the opponent
Speaker 1: wants you to do in those situations. So I don't look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. I like more Pope a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I feel gross saying it because
Speaker 1: he coaches Kentucky yuck, But like I think he's I
Speaker 1: won't gosh, if he heard that, he he'd want to
Speaker 1: be adopted by somebody else. I think, all right, don't
Speaker 1: go anywhere we get the popic Luck guy. Were coming
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