WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll go away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.759 Do you want to report a UFO it? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.720 We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:09.480 wish to report a. 5 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.960 UFO over hey, we wanted one of those. 6 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.280 Data areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a 7 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:17.320 report of any kind of it? 8 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.039 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds. 9 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:23.879 Time areas thirty one me neither. 10 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.079 There were seven one golf. If it was anybody a 11 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:31.719 U above us to pass us, like thirty seconds ago. 12 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.560 We were sending one top of golf negative, okay, off 13 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:37.039 fi the UFO. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.920 Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over. 15 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:42.600 I go. 16 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.159 I don't know what it was. 17 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.079 But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us. 18 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:53.240 See, I passed out over the thought of us. 19 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:51.719 Ninety one one. 20 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:55.359 Guy you just called up to me before. 21 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.240 They're after staying the airplanes. 22 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:05.439 He is to god more calm in on an unidentify 23 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.519 object every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified 24 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.239 flying object. 25 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 26 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 27 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.560 an encounter, I would like to be on the show, 28 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.879 you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 29 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.000 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope you're 30 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:53.719 all doing good this week. I'm Nick Canta and this 31 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.200 is the UFO Chronicles podcast. This episode, we're in the 32 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.200 state of Utah in the US to meet viewer and 33 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.680 he has some strange encounters he's going to be sharing 34 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.159 with us tonight, including a spirit encounter at a hospital, 35 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.280 a visit at his house from the Black Eyed Kids, 36 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:13.039 and experiences while going door to door doing his missionary 37 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.039 service for the Church of Latter day Saints. Bueler is 38 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.960 up next, but first, if you enjoy a show and 39 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.680 you would like to help support the podcast on Patreon, 40 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:25.120 you can do this for as little as one dollar 41 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:28.360 a month. Head on over to patreon dot com forward 42 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.919 slash UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link 43 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:34.840 in the description of this episode. Any help is very 44 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:52.879 much appreciated. Now on with the show. Good evening, be there, 45 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:54.719 Welcome to the podcast. 46 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:56.639 Hey, thanks, good to be here. 47 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.599 It is great to have you with us today and 48 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.080 your calling from the state of Utah in the United States. Correct, 49 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:08.759 can you tell us something about Utah that people may 50 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:09.360 not know. 51 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.479 That's a good question. Well, I don't think crazy in particular. 52 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:21.120 I guess everybody knows. This was settled by pioneers from 53 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:23.919 the Church of Jesus Christ, the Latter day Saints, back 54 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.319 in the mid eighteen hundreds, back in the days of 55 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:35.319 ox pulled wagons and such when they were fleeing religious persecution. 56 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.360 But I guess you know, people actually come here from 57 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.159 all around the world to enjoy all the amazing national 58 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:46.360 parks we have and all the beautiful red rock formations 59 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.759 and arches and such. We've always been pretty famous for 60 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:54.120 our snow skiing. We've just heard that we're charted to 61 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.199 be hosting the Winter Olympics for the second time here 62 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.319 and sometime I think in the ten years. But so yeah, 63 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:05.319 it's a great place. I feel like skiing and snowboarding 64 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.759 and outdoor type stuff. Not so famous if you like 65 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:15.080 to go out drinking at night. We have I guess, 66 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:22.079 less friendly laws around the sale of alcohol and such 67 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.639 that people find appalling. I was working in a grocery 68 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.360 store as a young man one day and stocking the 69 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:33.279 shelves with something, and some type of construction crew or 70 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:37.240 landscaping crew came in and the guy said, Hey, where's 71 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.279 your beer? And I just looked him rd the face 72 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.639 and I said, oh, we don't sell beer. He's like, 73 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.639 you don't sell beer. You got to be kidding me. 74 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:49.519 And I guess that was just something that the owners 75 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:52.639 of the grocery store had decided they would do because 76 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:55.439 of being religious and stuff. But yeah, it is a 77 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:56.240 beautiful place. 78 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.160 But yeah, wonderful. And it's also known as the bee. 79 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.920 Hive State, correct I was, I guess supposed to be 80 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:10.160 in relation to how industrious the people were who who 81 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:13.399 settled the state back in the old days. 82 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.040 So yeah, interesting stuff. I always like to learn a 83 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:21.360 little bit about each state. Wonderful. Okay, now, view that 84 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.040 you've got some experiences you're going to be sharing with us, 85 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.120 would you like to start at the beginning, please, sir? 86 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.839 Sure? All right. So I have a few, but so 87 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:32.879 I guess the first one I had was back approximately 88 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.839 nineteen eighty six. It could have been nineteen eighty five. 89 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:39.720 I was either way, I was three or four years old, 90 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:44.879 and this is different than most of the other stores 91 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.920 I've heard, But anyway, I was playing around with some 92 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:55.439 change I had found in my mother's purse and there's 93 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:57.720 a good handful of it. I stuck it all in 94 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.839 my mouth for some reason and was I must have 95 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.519 tasted terrible. But I was just kind of moving all 96 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.439 these coins around my mouth, and I accidentally swallowed one 97 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:11.519 of the coins, and it was terribly painful. I don't 98 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.560 know if you've ever accidentally swallowed an ice cube or 99 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.879 something while you were having a drink, and how awkward 100 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.079 and painful that can be. Gulping that down it was. 101 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:25.920 I guess it was comparable to that. But anyway, so 102 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.480 I was crying and coughing and choking and all this 103 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:32.639 fun stuff, and so my dad ended up taking me 104 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:37.439 to the emergency room at the hospital, and they were 105 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:40.959 going to do some procedure called pumping my stomach, which 106 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.160 I don't believe they do much of anymore, if they 107 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.600 do it at all. I guess how they do the 108 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.040 procedure is beside the point. But anyway, I remember my 109 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:53.399 dad was leading me back to the procedure room or 110 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.959 they were going to do this thing, and there was 111 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.000 a man sitting on the counter dressed kind of roughly, 112 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:04.959 such as a construction worker would be dressed, and he 113 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.360 as he saw me walking back there, he started to 114 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:11.000 make fun of me. He started saying, Oh, look, my 115 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.720 name is so and so, and I swallowed a penny. 116 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:18.040 Oh my gosh, poor me, boo hoo, all this stuff. 117 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:22.279 And I was pretty alarmed that I was being teased 118 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.000 whatever by this guy. And so I asked my dad, 119 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.000 who is that guy, you know? And how does he 120 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.199 know my name? And why is he being so mean 121 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:35.120 to me? And my dad had absolutely no clue who 122 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:42.399 I was talking about. So I believe that was probably 123 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:47.879 one of my earliest experiences with a spirit that I 124 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.560 know of. My second and third experience, let's skip ahead 125 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:56.600 to about two thousand and two. I was on a 126 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:00.839 proselyting mission for the Church of Jesus Christ Latter day Saints, 127 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:06.360 and I was in a mission area that covered southeast 128 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:11.120 Texas and the southwestern part of Louisiana. I was in 129 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:16.399 this city was called Pasadena, and were my companion and 130 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.319 I were living in an apartment complex. It was actually 131 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.079 pretty nice, it was. And when I say nice, I 132 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.079 just mean that the folks lived there were, you know, 133 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.480 typically what you'd consider to be pretty decent people that 134 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:36.080 weren't up to anything, stady or stuff like that. Did 135 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.440 I say we lived on a second story. But anyway, 136 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:42.759 so this one night, it was getting close to what 137 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:48.120 was bedtime for us, and there was somebody at the door, 138 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.480 and so I went and answered the door, and there 139 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:57.519 were these two filthy little girls. They I'll just say, 140 00:08:57.519 --> 00:08:59.679 they were like way overdue for a shower, as far 141 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.559 as I could tell it by sight. And they I 142 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:05.879 think they're the Between the two of them, they were 143 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:10.919 both between the ages of four and seven at the most. 144 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:15.600 And they asked if they could come into our apartment 145 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:19.960 for some reason, and I was already starting to tell 146 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.960 them no, they couldn't, and you know, such things were 147 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.799 against the rules for US missionaries. And they started to 148 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:31.320 behave rather erratically, and I had noticed all of a sudden, 149 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.480 I guess I hadn't noticed immediately because it was so 150 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.399 dark outside and the glaring porch light we had on, 151 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:46.480 I realized both of these little girls had completely black eyeballs, 152 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:52.759 like there was no noticeable like whites of their eyes 153 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.679 and such, and I just had this terrible feeling. I 154 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.519 commanded them to leave in the name of of Jesus 155 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:04.639 Christ and shut the door, and they were gone in 156 00:10:04.639 --> 00:10:09.120 a flash that was pretty shaking. I don't it seemed 157 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:14.200 like there's some type of demons or something, and I 158 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:17.840 guess I've since read about such things, and I guess 159 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.600 supposedly you're screwed once they get in your house, and 160 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.519 it's kind of like the whole vampire thing, supposedly, where 161 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:26.919 you have to invite them in or let them come in, 162 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:30.600 and then they do whatever they do to make your 163 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:34.360 life miserable. Anyway, the third experience was while I was 164 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.799 still on my mission, but in another city. This city 165 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:42.480 was called Beaumont, Texas. A new companion and I were 166 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:47.919 going from door to door, knocking on doors, trying to 167 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:51.240 share the gospel with whoever we could. And we were 168 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:57.840 in a neighborhood that was pretty seedy and known to 169 00:10:57.960 --> 00:11:03.840 have gang silence and murders and things of that nature. 170 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:09.720 And we had just gone to one house and got 171 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.840 no answer, and so we're going on to the next 172 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.279 house and walking down the sidewalk. As soon as we 173 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:21.000 crossed the property line into the next house, I got 174 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.279 this terrible feeling that just really took me over. And 175 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:30.039 I told my companion, you know, I said, Elder, we 176 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.360 should skip this house and just go knock the next one. 177 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.399 I've got a really bad feeling about it. And I 178 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.200 didn't understand why I would have a bad feeling about it, 179 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:44.279 because this house was actually nicer and better kept than 180 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.879 most of the other houses on the street. But my 181 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:52.000 companion didn't want to hear it. You know, He's like, no, elder, 182 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.039 we have to share the gospel with everybody. And so 183 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.600 he goes charging on up to the door and knocks 184 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:02.879 on it, and this dark skinned man answers the door. 185 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:09.320 The whites of his eyes were very yellow, and interestingly, 186 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:14.399 I noticed that you couldn't distinguish his irises from his pupils. 187 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:18.120 It was just like this big old black spot in 188 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.399 the middle of his eyes is very creepy looking. But 189 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.559 my over enthusiastic mission companion starts going into his spill, Hi, 190 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.639 my name's Elder so and so, and this is Elder 191 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.080 so and so, and we're missionaries. And this guy cuts 192 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:34.679 him right off. He's like, I know who you are, 193 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:41.039 and he says, I actually have my own spirituality. And 194 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:46.720 apparently this guy must have been involved in some kind 195 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:52.240 of serious Satan worship or black magic or something, because 196 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.720 as you know, as soon as he started talking, I 197 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.879 just you know that that terrible feeling I had kind 198 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:05.519 of just intensified. And this guy proceeded to say terrible 199 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.600 things to us, which which wasn't out of the ordinary. 200 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.039 We have people say rotten, terrible things to us. Oh, 201 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:12.240 I wish you guys would die or get hit by 202 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.320 a truck or whatever, you know, and or tell us 203 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.519 we're going to hell and all the stuff. But this 204 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:22.000 guy was different. You know, he if he just summoned 205 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:24.120 the demons of hell or whatever to say these terrible 206 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.000 things to us, But they're such terrible things and seemed 207 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:33.720 to somehow relate to things we would only know about ourselves. 208 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:40.480 That we felt so destroyed. And when I say destroyed, 209 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.120 I mean not just like disheartened for being rejected, because 210 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.039 we got rejected all the time, you know, just getting 211 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.080 doors slammed in our face day in, day out. But this, 212 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.159 I mean, the stuff this guy had to say was 213 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:55.799 so terrible that I think I've blocked it out of 214 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:59.679 my mind. But interestingly, when you're out there serving the 215 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.279 Lord and doing your best to do what's right and 216 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:06.759 following the rules and working hard till the Lord is 217 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:10.919 with you, and you know you have your guardian angels 218 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.960 with you, and stuff and it's noticeable. You know, You'll 219 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:18.080 notice all these times you could have died, you know, 220 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:23.879 and you have the inspiration of God with you. But 221 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:30.480 suddenly I feel like, partly because I had ignored the 222 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.159 promptings from the Spirit, and partly from just having had 223 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:41.559 this conversation with this kind of lost individual, my companion, 224 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:45.120 I no longer had that that presence of God with us, 225 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:49.639 you know, or the Holy Spirit. And for once, for 226 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.840 the first time in the several months I had been 227 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:58.279 out there doing this work, I was left without that 228 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:02.960 and just left filling just like any old person. I 229 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.720 guess it's hard to explain unless you've experienced that, but 230 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:11.679 you know, I was looking extra careful that night anytime 231 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.639 we would cross the street because I felt so so 232 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:19.440 much more vulnerable than usual. And I think it took 233 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:24.120 us a good day plus before we got back to 234 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:29.000 our usual selves after that event. Let's see, the fourth 235 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:33.120 experience I had was pretty interesting. This was years later, 236 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.759 somewhere between I want to say, between twenty ten and 237 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:43.399 twenty twelve. I had gotten into the military. I was 238 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:50.759 formerly military intelligence, and we came home to visit my 239 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:55.320 side of the family here in Utah from living out 240 00:15:55.320 --> 00:16:00.159 of state where I was stationed in the military, and 241 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.399 somebody sent me to the grocery store to get a 242 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.000 few items. Whether it's to make dinner that night or 243 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.000 for the next day, I can't remember, but anyway, I 244 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:14.879 got into the checkout line at the grocery store and 245 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:19.039 I noticed this woman standing in front of me had 246 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:25.720 particularly strange bodily proportions. For those of you who don't 247 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:29.080 understand what that means, I guess whether you take an 248 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:34.360 anatomy class or a figure drawing class for art or something, 249 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:41.879 there's this concept that when you're drawing a human, they 250 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:47.320 have certain proportions, meaning that they're different parts of their 251 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:53.159 body relate to each other, usually in different ratios. And 252 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.399 we take that for granted when we see people all 253 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.480 throughout the day because we all have similar purports. Men's 254 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:07.799 proportions are obviously slightly different than women's, but no big deal. 255 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.319 But this, this person in front of me, had proportions 256 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:17.079 which I had never seen in a person, and she 257 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:23.319 had very strange, long, thin limbs, and I had done. 258 00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:27.559 Don't get me wrong, I have seen people that were 259 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:32.559 in late stages of anorexia before. This was not just 260 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:36.720 a case of anorexia. I mean, the length of her 261 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:41.039 various parts of her legs and arms and stuff, and 262 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.960 how that related to her shoulders and head and all 263 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:50.440 that stuff was just way off. And she also didn't 264 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:53.039 seem that it didn't seem to be just a case 265 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:57.680 of deformity either. And I didn't count the fingers on 266 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:01.440 her hands, which I'm looking at, you know, that would 267 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:05.160 be of interest to know. But one thing, one very 268 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:10.079 distinct thing I recognized, was in her face. Her head 269 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:15.000 was very large, and not only that, but her eyes 270 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:19.039 were twice the size of any human eyes I have 271 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.799 ever seen in my life. And this was not just 272 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.119 a thyroid problem or something, And you know, that was 273 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:32.440 just her eyes were gigantic. And I am a very sociable, 274 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:36.799 talkative person. I'm very comfortable talking with people, no matter 275 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:41.319 their station in life and such, probably because of my 276 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:47.359 missionary service. But I wanted to make small talk and 277 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:51.720 at least say hello to this woman. But in the 278 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.240 very act of trying to do so, it's like I 279 00:18:54.279 --> 00:19:00.160 was stopped. It wasn't just a case of fear, it's 280 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.319 that I actually couldn't when I went to speak. My 281 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:09.599 different muscles in my throat and my mouth would not 282 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.079 even activate. I am not like a speech pathologist by 283 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:19.440 any means or anything, but it's just I went to 284 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.319 speak to her, and it's like I was not allowed to, 285 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:30.119 Like she obviously had some type of psychic or supernatural 286 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:36.440 abilities beyond my imagination. And that was so bizarre for 287 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.200 the first time in my life to go to talk 288 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.839 to somebody and just be stopped dead in my tracks 289 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:49.640 in that way. And I remember looking at the cashier 290 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:52.720 who's reading up everybody's groceries, and you know, this is 291 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.240 another interesting thing that comes to mind, is the fact 292 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:59.160 that this person ahead of me was paying for their groceries. 293 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:01.359 But you know, we'll talk about that later. But anyway, 294 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:06.759 I looked at the cashier to try to observe, you know, 295 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.599 if she had noticed anything about the customer and ahead 296 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:11.799 of me, and I even asked her, and this lady 297 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:15.240 didn't even know what I was talking about, and it 298 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.680 was so bizarre, so I didn't quite comprehend what I 299 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:20.920 had just observed, and so I just kind of put 300 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:23.400 it out of my mind for some years Later on, 301 00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:31.759 I somehow started looking into all this paranormal and UFO stuff, 302 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:40.359 and I've heard multiple stories about a let's say extraterrestrial 303 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:45.720 slash human hybrid breeding program whatever for lack of better term, 304 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:53.640 and how they are cross breeding different species of extraterrestrial 305 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:57.759 with humans. And then suddenly clicked and suddenly this all 306 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:03.400 made sense, and that this being who appeared to be 307 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:07.279 a woman could very likely be one of those hybrids. 308 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:12.640 And I thought, that's fascinating. And but of all the 309 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.680 bad things people say about, you know, different species of 310 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.279 aliens and stuff, I did find that interesting that she 311 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:23.079 was actually paying for her groceries. I you know, if 312 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:29.279 I had abilities that extreme, maybe I wouldn't pay for 313 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.160 my groceries all the time. I don't know, anyway, so 314 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.839 that was interesting. Oh and then so if my next experience. 315 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:42.400 My grandmother on my mom's side passed away in the 316 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:46.480 end of twenty fourteen. We had always been very close. 317 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:50.319 I had always been particularly close with her, as well 318 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:53.880 as my grandfather on my dad's side. But anyway, when 319 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.279 she passed away, I guess when I say we had 320 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.720 been close, we would often talk to each other on 321 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.960 the phone and stuff, and often visit. I guess they 322 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:05.880 only lived an hour and a half away, and so 323 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:09.720 it wasn't too big of a deal. To go visit 324 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:12.759 my grandparents. So she passed away, and we were living 325 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:16.640 out of state, and for whatever reason, I wasn't able 326 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:21.559 to travel home for the funeral, and I was kind 327 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:26.400 of upset about it, but ultimately I knew that my 328 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.400 grandmother loved me, and I knew that she knew that 329 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.559 I loved her as well, and tried not to feel 330 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:36.880 too guilty or put off that I wasn't able to go. 331 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.759 But I think subconsciously I must have been more bothered 332 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:45.680 by it than I wanted to admit, because several months 333 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.359 went by and we ended up moving back home here 334 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.200 to Utah to live closer family. We had been living 335 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:55.720 in a house, but we moved into an apartment and 336 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.960 one night I was lying in bed and I received 337 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:05.720 you to message. You know, it must be telepathically. I 338 00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:10.359 don't communicate telepathically on any kind of a basis with anybody, 339 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:14.759 but this message, it just came to my soul, you 340 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:20.680 know that. And I could recognize whatever the energy and 341 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:26.480 the voice as that of my late grandmother. And she 342 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:29.160 said she was coming to visit me, and that she 343 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:33.000 would come through the front door. And she was telling 344 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:36.000 me such so that I wouldn't be alarmed, and so 345 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.240 I got out of bed, and she walked right in 346 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.839 through the front door, and obviously without opening it. But 347 00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:51.400 she appeared to be a much younger version of herself. 348 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.200 She was I think she was in her late eighties, 349 00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.000 possibly when she passed away, I can't even remember now, 350 00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:03.519 but anyway, she appeared to be someone maybe in her thirties. 351 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:08.960 And we spoke briefly, and she asked me how I 352 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:10.960 was doing, what I was up to, all that stuff, 353 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.960 and then she asked me if she could see the 354 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.200 rest of my family, and so I walked her to 355 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.039 the two different bedrooms that the kids were sleeping in 356 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:25.720 at the time, and I showed them each child. I 357 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:32.359 showed her each of the boys and told her what 358 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.039 was going on in their lives. And I was still 359 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:39.240 married at the time, and so I showed her my 360 00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:44.119 ex wife, and she knew she had known all these 361 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.680 people in her her living years, and so it's not 362 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.680 like this is the first time she met him or anything. 363 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:55.759 I showed her my wife and told her how you know, 364 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:57.759 she was doing it, her job and all this stuff. 365 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:03.160 And then she walked back out to the living room 366 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.920 in the apartment, and she said she had to go, 367 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.680 and she told me how much she loved me and 368 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:15.720 my family and that she was proud of us all 369 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:22.720 and started to be I guess, afraid of the sadness 370 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.240 that would come over me as she was going to leave, 371 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.119 because you know, I didn't know and I was going 372 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:32.759 to see her again. Surprisingly, when she left, I was 373 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:38.960 left with an intense feeling of joy, of real, true happiness, 374 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:43.720 and of peace, which I think was bizarre because I 375 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:48.000 was totally didn't make sense to me how such a 376 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:53.559 thing could happen. I was just totally expecting to be 377 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:58.079 sad as all. Heck, but you know, I feel sad 378 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.680 thinking about it, just because I missed my grandma. But 379 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.480 it was so bizarre. After she left, I felt so 380 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:08.640 happy and peaceful. And I guess that does it for 381 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.000 that experience. Oh oh, I guess. One thing I wanted 382 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.599 to say, though, was that at first I was wondering 383 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.960 if that experience with my grandmother could have just been 384 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.359 a dream, because you know, we want to rationalize things 385 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.480 away and just think, oh, yeah, probably because I ate 386 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:27.000 some spicy chicken too late at night or something. I 387 00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:30.079 don't know. I think to all the dreams I've had 388 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:35.759 where I've been in locations that were supposedly familiar to me, 389 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.079 and how the details of those locations would be different 390 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:44.319 than they were in real life, And that was one 391 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.480 easily identifiable way I would know something was a dream. 392 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.960 But in this meeting with my grandmother that the apartment 393 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.039 was still exactly the way it was in reality, you know, 394 00:26:56.240 --> 00:27:00.319 all of the everything was in the same place. So 395 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:07.480 that was bizarre. But also was the fact that the 396 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:13.599 conversation that I had with her was so realistic in that, 397 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.119 you know, how she would have carried on a conversation 398 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:21.319 with me. There was nothing weird or wacky about it. 399 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:26.440 It was all so coherent and cohesive, and so I 400 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.880 think what happened might have been something more than a dream. 401 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:37.440