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Speaker 1: Sorrow Kinkshu with me. Probably we'll start this by observing
Speaker 1: thirty seconds of silence, can't you for peres case exit? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know, uh, yesterday I was discussing, yeah, like sort
Speaker 1: of one day of relief. I wasn't well, so I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, probably CSK would give me some joy. And
Speaker 1: seeing them score nineteen ten overs, nineteen ten overs, nineteen tenos, yeah,
Speaker 1: it felt like, you know, a wild achievement for the franchise.
Speaker 1: But one a two for five and then you give
Speaker 1: us a hat trick and done for the first time
Speaker 1: in the IPL history. For two back to back seasons.
Speaker 1: CSK are not qualifying for the playoffs. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: observe thirty second silence any day. Any day that like
Speaker 1: Sam Current is a top scorer, you know, you should
Speaker 1: be ashamed of yourself, ashamed of the franchise. You probably
Speaker 1: banned them, but so didn't want to talk about CSKA.
Speaker 1: He said, enough of CSKA, enough of you know, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about the franchise that isn't doing well. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about people who are doing well. Okay, And I think
Speaker 1: we have to give it to the man from his state,
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, an outstanding performance one hundred in his
Speaker 1: third IPL game in that is thirty twenty game Wheber Studio,
Speaker 1: and she the entire world is talking about him, from
Speaker 1: not just cricketers, from footballers to f fundraisers. Everybody has
Speaker 1: been talking about him. But sort of tell me something,
Speaker 1: is he really fourteen? Clear that once for all? You know?
Speaker 1: What about how is it in behard? Do you guys
Speaker 1: really get legal birth certificates? Do you guys get the
Speaker 1: age right or not? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Most of the cases we get the burster to get right.
Speaker 3: And it looks like he's fourteen. Yeah, because if you
Speaker 3: look at his past Instagram posts and the pictures which
Speaker 3: his father has, which his father has shared, especially that
Speaker 3: twenty seventeen photo where he looks like a six year
Speaker 3: old guy watching that IPL game in Kolkata and supporting
Speaker 3: rising super giant.
Speaker 1: So it was.
Speaker 4: Actually has to bring my way everywhere, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know when that hundred, when he hit
Speaker 3: that hundred, I was looking at an and I was
Speaker 3: looking at that hundred, and I realized something that he
Speaker 3: hit that six. I completed a one hundred with a
Speaker 3: six on Russia Khan, whose age is in itself a
Speaker 3: different mystery. Like Russia Khan on paper is twenty sears old.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows how poor false is that. And now you
Speaker 3: have raised that controversy regarding waves age.
Speaker 4: Maybe we should cut him some slack and we should
Speaker 4: talk about his performance section.
Speaker 1: No, people are asking that on social media, so I
Speaker 1: am not asking that to you know, de mean anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm asking that because at fourteen, how can you do that?
Speaker 1: That is the bewilderment and amazement that I have, Like
Speaker 1: at fourteen the maximum that day, I was seeing a
Speaker 1: real cab. At fourteen, two friends are trying to throw
Speaker 1: their slippers, you know, far away as and like who
Speaker 1: throws it far away? Is the competition? That's what people
Speaker 1: do at fourteen. Probably at fourteen you were thinking about
Speaker 1: the next day's mathematic example. But this guy comes and
Speaker 1: takes on someone like Mamatsira who's in prime form, more
Speaker 1: like prussed Krishna, who is you know, finding his rhythm
Speaker 1: in this season, just effortlessly hitting him for success. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's fourteen. Yes, you know, past so
Speaker 1: many tests. I asked you that question because it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's my point. There's you know, we we
Speaker 1: have proved, the bussy has proved, I feel has approved it.
Speaker 1: Rajasthan royways have bought him in the campsul. We are
Speaker 1: no one to do say that he's not fourteen. Similarly, also,
Speaker 1: you've been playing international cricket for like say twelve years,
Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah, but that kind of you know, at fourteen,
Speaker 1: what was your biggest achievement in life? I don't know,
Speaker 1: O kiss a girl or something was something like that
Speaker 1: at that time. Like that's that that that's what your
Speaker 1: focus is right at fourteen, which is nine at fourteen?
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninth fourteen.
Speaker 1: How can you be in ninth? First, let me check
Speaker 1: your age at fourteen? Can you be in ninth fifteen?
Speaker 1: I finished ten eighteen, I finished twelve. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: that's how it works, right, So you were an eighth
Speaker 1: or ninth yeah, oh yeah, whatever that that period around
Speaker 1: only but yeah, like I think Dravid also spoke about
Speaker 1: the same thing. But for me at least, like the
Speaker 1: story isn't that he is fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: whatever is. He may be twenty six, but giving me
Speaker 1: a century in thirty five balls at a stage like IPL,
Speaker 1: that's the feat. That's what should be talked about. People
Speaker 1: will always be there with these wonder kids. There is
Speaker 1: always a question of how old they are. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: And we I think we also have spoken about there
Speaker 1: are several young talents. There's a history of young talents
Speaker 1: doing well at this sage across the world. They are special.
Speaker 1: They're meant to be special, don't There is no point
Speaker 1: discussing if he's fourteen or sixteen or seventeen, how old
Speaker 1: could he be? Only sojagachalot at Max. But the point
Speaker 1: is that the things that he is doing in his
Speaker 1: rookie season at IPL is extremely special. You know, it's
Speaker 1: a very I spoke to his coach and he old
Speaker 1: spoke to how Dravid about you know, you had an
Speaker 1: impress interaction with him. What exactly did he say, as in,
Speaker 1: like in terms of his development, are we you know
Speaker 1: now that he has scored his one hundred and on
Speaker 1: Thursday he'll be playing another match again Bomber Indians. He'll
Speaker 1: face the likes of Trent Bolt and just with Boomra
Speaker 1: if he fails, should as in people will judge him.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, as a star attack, then you scored,
Speaker 1: but against Boomrah you can't do it. So how do
Speaker 1: you deal with those kinds of How should he deal
Speaker 1: with those kinds of questions? What did mister Awl Dravitz say?
Speaker 1: That's actually like one of the prominent questions that got
Speaker 1: asked to Dravid, Like my question to him was that
Speaker 1: you have grown up with such a sorrow of and
Speaker 1: you have seen them cross that age of fourteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen compared to him, how special do you think
Speaker 1: that this kid is? So he said, it's not only
Speaker 1: them such in Sawrow. He has seen a young rishapanth
Speaker 1: he has seen a young Schumannhill because he was the
Speaker 1: undernighting coach right and then the ncaahead and he says
Speaker 1: that he's also seen a young Khalilah was exceptionally talented
Speaker 1: Dravid says that we have to be very careful when
Speaker 1: we praise Vibvibove and when we criticize him, because there
Speaker 1: is a graph that every cricketer has to take. Some
Speaker 1: mature late, some mature very early. A deep an inevitable
Speaker 1: dip is going to come drawed. Is saying that Indian
Speaker 1: media fans and the critics have to be very careful
Speaker 1: in their criticism or praise of the cricketer himself. And
Speaker 1: Dravid also says that I can't hide him from all
Speaker 1: of that. If you are a cricketer, if you're earnning
Speaker 1: the big bucks, the criticism and the focus comes with
Speaker 1: the job. I can't hide him from it, but we
Speaker 1: will help him navigate through that. I think that was
Speaker 1: quite like interesting or special how a senior pro former cricketer,
Speaker 1: a legend is trying to, you know, like give it
Speaker 1: back to the ecosystem of the like the heart that
Speaker 1: he must have faced when he was growing up, when
Speaker 1: he was getting slammed for his poor batting, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, like help that fourteen year old
Speaker 1: navigate through that space. Actually, you also talked to his
Speaker 1: coach child lose.
Speaker 4: If I'm not wrong. What did he say about.
Speaker 1: Child Yeah, watchful personal writing in that story of childhood
Speaker 1: coach a personal coach because if you what, what more
Speaker 1: is childhood for him than fourteen with childhood? But you know,
Speaker 1: I asked him about this one because like many people
Speaker 1: ask him a lot of questions, but I asked him
Speaker 1: this one. How how could he generate so much power?
Speaker 1: Like if you see that eleven six is that he
Speaker 1: lived against threatens? Three of them are eighty five meter
Speaker 1: plus and two of them were ninety meter plus. If
Speaker 1: you look at so that eleven sixes is more than
Speaker 1: what csk in their entire season, it seems in the power.
Speaker 1: So that is one start that I asked him, how
Speaker 1: can he generate so much power? Did he do anything special?
Speaker 1: When I asked him that question, he was a little touchy.
Speaker 1: He said, no, people can generate that much more. I
Speaker 1: said no, So I'm not asking in that regard. I'm
Speaker 1: not asking how can a fourteen year old generate that
Speaker 1: much power? But can tell me how you guys worked
Speaker 1: on it? So he said he had a terrific batlift.
Speaker 1: When he saw him first, itself very high. He has
Speaker 1: a batlift like a Brian l Urat Sing and many people,
Speaker 1: many coaches in India try to you know, okay, say that, okay,
Speaker 1: don't play with that higher bat lift. But in this
Speaker 1: generation of T twenty cricket, where power hitting has taken
Speaker 1: the has become prominent. He said, I just let him be.
Speaker 1: I just let him be. And instead of from his
Speaker 1: young age, I fed him, you know, three hundred to
Speaker 1: three fifty balls he used to play, and that with
Speaker 1: that high backlift. He used to play all shots. He
Speaker 1: used to train, all shot, not a single shot missed,
Speaker 1: all around the circle he used to play. And one
Speaker 1: more thing what he said was he bowled him full
Speaker 1: tosses when he was you know, training when as as
Speaker 1: a ten year old, twel year old, when you pitch
Speaker 1: the ball, when you use that bowling machine, sometimes the
Speaker 1: ball jumps and all that. But so out of three
Speaker 1: fifty three hundred balls per day, one hundred of them
Speaker 1: would full tosses where he just focused on his power.
Speaker 1: Just hit those full tosses. You don't have to worry about,
Speaker 1: you know, the ball pitching and moving away, the ball
Speaker 1: pitching and coming in. So these were somehow they know,
Speaker 1: and he said, you were seeing nineteen meters sixcess now,
Speaker 1: but I saw him hit nineteen meters sixcess when he
Speaker 1: was ten and a half years old. So he said,
Speaker 1: I organized a tournament when he came with his father.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see him in action because he was playing
Speaker 1: all across BHR, is what he told me. And then
Speaker 1: they would his father and him would send him scorecards
Speaker 1: to say that he's good enough to be in your academy.
Speaker 1: So one day he hosted a tournament for a webove
Speaker 1: as in for his team against under nineteen Bihar State
Speaker 1: state level triketers. So in that match, the boundaries were
Speaker 1: sixty yards, but Weber hit them thirty yards further than
Speaker 1: the boundary it seems at ten and a half eleven.
Speaker 1: This was in twenty twenty two, is what he told me.
Speaker 1: So then itself he knew that Weber would go on
Speaker 1: to become a big, big player and good support as well. Right,
Speaker 1: Rajasthan Royals took him for one point one core and
Speaker 1: it didn't mean that they just blooded him straight away.
Speaker 1: Quite quite a lot of us were asking whether it
Speaker 1: was just I watched that they picked him up in
Speaker 1: the auction yea, whether it's just you know, lip service
Speaker 1: or something like that, because fourteen year old, you might
Speaker 1: not play him, you just might use him to be
Speaker 1: in the part of the setup. And Dravid also at
Speaker 1: the start did say that we did not buy him
Speaker 1: thinking that we would play him. He did say that
Speaker 1: we were going to nurture him, and Rajasthan had a
Speaker 1: history of doing that with multiple players. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: several things went wrong for them to introduce the thing right.
Speaker 1: Several things went wrong. And at the same time you
Speaker 1: should also look at how probably Whyber would have been
Speaker 1: very impressive in the nets. Yes, Sancho Samson, injury, Rhon
Speaker 1: Park's poor form and all that is there. But even
Speaker 1: the even the PTA report, one p report said that
Speaker 1: he never was differentiated from anyone else in the training routines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was bold one fifty kilometers per hour. This Druid
Speaker 1: spoke about. He said that raj Usthan arranged five camps
Speaker 1: in the run up to the IPL and the they
Speaker 1: the franchise. He put additional focus to make Beaver familiar
Speaker 1: with the entire setup, that's including the coaching management, the staff,
Speaker 1: the throwdown specialist and the CEOs of that group that
Speaker 1: who go who go around the team, so that he
Speaker 1: could ask for things that he wanted and they could
Speaker 1: train him in a way where he felt comfortable. So
Speaker 1: quite partiality in Nita that you speak that one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty bolcar nets pay because that's what he is
Speaker 1: essentially going to face, and now more more than before
Speaker 1: because I think at least in against Mumbai there when
Speaker 1: you target him with shortballs at fourteen, if I were
Speaker 1: in NIPL team, I would have asked these seniors some chocolates,
Speaker 1: free food and all that. You know, hlaystation, PlayStation, you know,
Speaker 1: sit with maybe Sancho Samson and play feef through the
Speaker 1: night and then sleep. But for someone you know, you
Speaker 1: make use of that opportunity is really good, right, doesn't
Speaker 1: like he's not he's from a humble background.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very humble background. And his father has
Speaker 3: almost given his entire life. So his father was the
Speaker 3: one who wanted to be a cricketer, but then he
Speaker 3: could not be because of finals in the sistens and
Speaker 3: he had to do a small business, that's what is it.
Speaker 3: And because of uh he changed his job, he sold
Speaker 3: his land and I have I read a report where
Speaker 3: his father used to take him and travel day and
Speaker 3: night and his mother used to cook, not just for
Speaker 3: him and his father, she also used to cook for
Speaker 3: the net bowlers so that they can they don't have
Speaker 3: to go somewhere for lunch and they can bowl extra
Speaker 3: balls to.
Speaker 1: Or something like that. Report.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it is just like that. The success had
Speaker 3: not come overnight. There's a very very long process and
Speaker 3: a lot of people were involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but money showed U. The coach, he told me
Speaker 1: that keep this like, take this from me. He will
Speaker 1: play for India in at least in two to three years.
Speaker 1: Do you see that happening? Three years is a long
Speaker 1: time because we that we should be discussing here or not.
Speaker 1: I think it's too early, man. I think it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good to think. Like, if you can't think, you
Speaker 1: won't be able to do. If you don't have a dream,
Speaker 1: how do you go on to and achieve it? So
Speaker 1: I think at some point it will happen. I hope
Speaker 1: it happens as soon as possible. But two to three
Speaker 1: years is a little bit of her.
Speaker 3: So when Davishasti was asked about and he said, look,
Speaker 3: I'm very impressed with the way this young chap is batting.
Speaker 3: But my only advice is just let him play, let
Speaker 3: him enjoy the game. He's getting that fame because he
Speaker 3: has worked very hard and he has got shortcomings as
Speaker 3: a battle people will target with him short balls and
Speaker 3: there are different ways where he can be targeted.
Speaker 4: So let him play the game.
Speaker 3: And the people who are involved in his growth, his parents,
Speaker 3: the other coaching set up, all these people, they should
Speaker 3: be training him to play, to become a cricketer who
Speaker 3: can play across from it. So let him grow, let
Speaker 3: him play, and let him enjoy this pace because he
Speaker 3: has given so much to celebrate for the entire country
Speaker 3: and this is a very good, good thing for the intricate.
Speaker 1: Also, one thing that his coach told me at fourteen, like,
Speaker 1: you know, at fourteen, if you see kids as like
Speaker 1: I'm not making a general statement, but the kids that
Speaker 1: I have seen, they rarely listen to people as in
Speaker 1: they're very excited. They want to you know, prove up,
Speaker 1: they want to say something their teams, right, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: excitable at that stage that he has never had to
Speaker 1: tell something that he taught to him another time. He
Speaker 1: has never had to scold him for learning something. That's
Speaker 1: the kind of you know, absorption that probably might have
Speaker 1: taken him there as in like you have to have
Speaker 1: that keen learning ability, as in like listening ability and
Speaker 1: learning ability. And this kid looks special, like you know what,
Speaker 1: we were discussing that in the early nineties, we were
Speaker 1: not able to see that. And at least we have
Speaker 1: heard stories of such a going to Western d Is
Speaker 1: going to Pakistan and dominating at sixteen seventeen. I think
Speaker 1: such a scot Is debut hundred at seventeen or something, right.
Speaker 1: But the good that we are able to see something
Speaker 1: of that of that teacher again, of that you know
Speaker 1: phenomen again, But don't you think so like I'm not
Speaker 1: comparing him the second the second you put a tab
Speaker 1: on him now, but that that at fourteen fifteen? Can
Speaker 1: you do so so something so special? But they were
Speaker 1: so like like Dravid says, when Punths broke into the
Speaker 1: same he was sixteen, what level that around that similar
Speaker 1: h kpe only he was playing India and under nineteenth
Speaker 1: which weber will someday and you would argue that when
Speaker 1: when when Punths came up, Month was dubbed as a
Speaker 1: generational talent, much like this kid, and not a lot
Speaker 1: of generation has passed between but just say, fourteen years
Speaker 1: old hitting an IPL century is not Month, It's not
Speaker 1: Sanjo Sampson, it's not Kale. Is something more special than
Speaker 1: that is what I think. It is special. Absolutely. I
Speaker 1: am not saying that he will go on to become
Speaker 1: a such in We didn't. We didn't. I was not
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to see such a dominating Pakistan at sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: The legends something of that sort has happened, and I'm
Speaker 1: fortunate that I have seen it live.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean you look at it.
Speaker 3: Everyone was talking about how a fourteen year old die
Speaker 3: has taken the cricketing world by storm, especially if you
Speaker 3: look at his batting and that power hitting leave that hundred.
Speaker 4: Talk about his.
Speaker 1: Debut first aids that was out of that that shook
Speaker 1: up ECB head rob Key. Yeah, he tweeted out what
Speaker 1: the hell am I saying here?
Speaker 3: And then against RCV smashing birds like Hazel Lord and
Speaker 3: so he is special. No, no one has taken that.
Speaker 1: Even the spring game is good.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. And more importantly, India has, especially IP is
Speaker 3: a breeding around for Indian cricketing talent, and that is
Speaker 3: what ill Is meant to do. And Rahu would also
Speaker 3: because Sportsual did an interview with our team manager romy Winder,
Speaker 3: who said that Driver was very very happy and emotional about.
Speaker 1: Hundred.
Speaker 3: When we came back after getting dismissed. Rad helped him
Speaker 3: and told him to keep doing this and hopefully I
Speaker 3: can deliver you to the Indian cricket. So there's there's
Speaker 3: a process in the mission out there that Webovesuvency is
Speaker 3: a great talent. He's special. Let's churn him into a
Speaker 3: great Indian cricketing talent.
Speaker 1: Just you said such a brilliant point because a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks before, remember Ambatira do what he said. He
Speaker 1: said that Rajasthan Royals we think that they are doing
Speaker 1: charity towards Indian cricket. Yes, and they have won nothing.
Speaker 1: They're a legacy less team and that that after winning
Speaker 1: the Maiden the first I feel they have done nothing
Speaker 1: in that tournament. Yeah, some people are calling them with
Speaker 1: one title with one title here, but that that is
Speaker 1: what Rajasthan's brand forever has been.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: At least they have a set brand. They know what
Speaker 1: they're out to accomplish. Even when Dravid was explaining their
Speaker 1: retention policy, they said that we were very clear that
Speaker 1: we need to keep our Indian young players with us
Speaker 1: like Shimron Meyer. Since the Indian young players were off
Speaker 1: top order nature, they had to keep one. They wanted
Speaker 1: to keep one overseas players and Hetmayer was the only
Speaker 1: one fitting into their plan. That was the logic behind it.
Speaker 1: But my point is that when Ambadi says these things,
Speaker 1: does he not think before speaking? Because you you you
Speaker 1: see what's happened to cskn Now so this whole title
Speaker 1: winning mentality and etcetera, etcetera. They're the first team to
Speaker 1: get knocked out of the tournament. That's army is a
Speaker 1: Outd's armies out. So what do you these things like?
Speaker 1: Is it not okay for Rajasthan to focus on nurturing
Speaker 1: Indian talent first and then think of the IPL see
Speaker 1: see according to me, you nurture Indian talent. You don't
Speaker 1: nurture Indian talent. You play with thirty six year olds,
Speaker 1: you play with sixteen year olds. You you come to
Speaker 1: the IPL deciding what you have to do. That's what.
Speaker 1: So don't tell anyone, don't tell a bomba Indians that okay,
Speaker 1: you will have to you can't keep those you know,
Speaker 1: keep retaining those star cores. Players don't tell tennis superkings
Speaker 1: that play these youngsters they will learn This season probably
Speaker 1: is a learning curve for them that you can't always make,
Speaker 1: you know, make You can't always get Shane Watson fat
Speaker 1: to place and revive their careers. You can't do that
Speaker 1: with probably. And also it's it's also depending on form
Speaker 1: and all that. So it's it's it's every team has
Speaker 1: its own DNA. That's the beauty of IPL so let
Speaker 1: that be. Let it, Let that be that way. It
Speaker 1: is what I think or do not think, that AA
Speaker 1: is actually doing us Indian credit. Many other teams are.
Speaker 1: Every every team is, you know, and that is something
Speaker 1: that we have to acknowledge and be proud of instead
Speaker 1: of shunning them down. No one is doing.
Speaker 3: I do not agree with Ambatisi's point, but what I
Speaker 3: believe is, Okay, you want to give to great you
Speaker 3: have good Indian talent, but as a franchise, he has
Speaker 3: a team. You are there to compete in the league.
Speaker 3: You're there to win the league. So your retentions have
Speaker 3: to make You have to make sense why you have
Speaker 3: announcing your attentions. No since because before this hundred all
Speaker 3: they have been doing is choking. They will losing because
Speaker 3: they let go of their biggest match with her in
Speaker 3: the past ten years.
Speaker 1: And also, and also I don't agree with the fact
Speaker 1: that yes Well is sitting there looking a little sidelined.
Speaker 1: If you really wanted to make someone captain when when
Speaker 1: Sanju was enjoyed, it should have been him. And then yes,
Speaker 1: they explained that Ryan was there with the team for
Speaker 1: a long time, but that Ryan Kota can be questioned.
Speaker 1: And you know what seven years he has been playing
Speaker 1: this year this season, he has not been playing well,
Speaker 1: So tell him that, okay, you have not been playing well,
Speaker 1: but take a back seat, return to form and then
Speaker 1: come So do you think that Weava is going to
Speaker 1: be the only positive thing that will come out of
Speaker 1: Razsthan this season? They still have a chance to qualify.
Speaker 1: You never know, you can't write them out. And it's
Speaker 1: a good things like if you look at it, who
Speaker 1: else hasn't Yester sweet form if he comes back, if
Speaker 1: he comes to good form, scoring runs it he hasn't
Speaker 1: scored run.
Speaker 4: And has been scoring us almost every season apart from
Speaker 4: last season. He's scoring us almost every.
Speaker 1: Season especially he's been like he's been a little slow
Speaker 1: quite slow than usual is but he's like if you
Speaker 1: would see the Orange capitalist, he would be very high
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 3: No, no, but yesterually has a point to prove right
Speaker 3: now because he's not part of t and he wants
Speaker 3: to get in the He went out from Mumbai. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he went out of Mumbai. He took up Goa and
Speaker 3: because he was offered captaincy. That is he said he
Speaker 3: wants to be the leader. So his leadership here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you have got an India player and he's almost
Speaker 3: all from it. He was big for the champions shape.
Speaker 3: It's not only to be left out because they wanted
Speaker 3: an excess pinners. Apart from that, if you see, he
Speaker 3: is India's generation talent, especially the way he batted against
Speaker 3: Australia in Australia. So you have to back him. And
Speaker 3: yes there are a lot of questions coming out of.
Speaker 1: A would replace in the team someday you never know,
Speaker 1: you might say that bat him when comes back. Sampson
Speaker 1: isn't coming back. That's why he's batting. So you're getting
Speaker 1: my flow.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you are saying is not going to play.
Speaker 1: Samson is a very dynamic player. He can figure at three.
Speaker 3: Four, so yeah, he played at number three till last season.
Speaker 3: I think Butler was opening with Jess, well, yeah, you
Speaker 3: can come back and play at number three. If yes,
Speaker 3: she continuing to give you these kind of starts, why not?
Speaker 1: Why not quick recap? Is it happening on two years
Speaker 1: Indian debut?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Not right now?
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like next.
Speaker 3: No, And there are so many open open ye for
Speaker 3: that one or two spot.
Speaker 4: Is going for that comeback?
Speaker 1: Is there are? You have to know what that tells me.
Speaker 1: So like even in the mid two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: like twenty ten to twenty twenty, every time a team
Speaker 1: would need a power we would look towards West Indies,
Speaker 1: we would look towards Australia that I think this revolution
Speaker 1: this season stops and now we should credit the local
Speaker 1: T twenty y y y really Premier.
Speaker 4: Lea U p M B T twenty league.
Speaker 3: You've seen the likes of Verma where is coming out
Speaker 3: and hitting those six days is absolutely.
Speaker 1: Premier League was the first to come up. Is it
Speaker 1: some one of those two Kerala had a Premier League? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but yeah, you have to give credit
Speaker 1: and the scouting system is actually good. And even if
Speaker 1: you like like. We also did a story saying that
Speaker 1: tennis ball cricket is you know, people are scouting from there. Also,
Speaker 1: the guy who played in I SPL he's a k
Speaker 1: care net powler now, so it's good. It's good that
Speaker 1: IPL is, you know, finally as an it has been doing,
Speaker 1: but it's now doing, like you said, even for power hitting,
Speaker 1: where we used to still look at overseas talents, we
Speaker 1: are looking inwards right now. So that's a very good thing.
Speaker 1: And I just hope that CSK can do some of it.
Speaker 1: They have actually done some of it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't know why the reluctance to play but before I
Speaker 1: leave sort of, I don't know if you if you
Speaker 1: if you take offense for this question. We have spoken
Speaker 1: about the fourteen year old. Can we talk about the
Speaker 1: forty three year old? Should he continue or not?
Speaker 3: Look, if you ask me, I don't think Amazon should
Speaker 3: plain excite clearly, you know he is the man who
Speaker 3: should decide. But for me, he's actually ruining his own legacy.
Speaker 3: You became the captain two years ago, you left the
Speaker 3: captain cy. You gave the captains to Jadeja, then mid
Speaker 3: Sisian you took it back and in the post match plantation.
Speaker 3: You have to come out and say I'm not going
Speaker 3: to tell people how to set the fields. School feeling
Speaker 3: is what you exactly.
Speaker 4: I was not going to use that word.
Speaker 3: Then again you win the title and it looks like okay,
Speaker 3: the farewell is on Amazoni's grand fail is on DONI
Speaker 3: comes and says, no, I want to play in Chennai.
Speaker 3: I want to give my fans one more year of
Speaker 3: good cricket. Then you make throughout the captaincy and you
Speaker 3: have a knee operation. You come back again next season.
Speaker 3: And this season has been the worst season for CSK
Speaker 3: across all eighteen editions. I mean you have lost how
Speaker 3: many mates a fife at home? Eight games? You have lost.
Speaker 3: Nothing is looking for you. The captain was ruled out midway,
Speaker 3: you became the captain again. Then you have given chances
Speaker 3: to a lot of players. You signed Brevis as an
Speaker 3: injury replacement when there was I don't think that if
Speaker 3: there was an injury to going.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of happening.
Speaker 3: And even after this game where where CSK lost to
Speaker 3: Punjab things after the match, CSK CEOs was talking to AMAZONI.
Speaker 4: It did not look like a very serious chat.
Speaker 3: But they were talking on some other lines and even
Speaker 3: before the toss, I think actually you did the copy.
Speaker 1: Yeah see ESCO than talking to is like what to
Speaker 1: do next? Okay, that's that's that's see. I'm I saw
Speaker 1: those visuals. I saw those usuals. Yes, there has been
Speaker 1: a little exaggeration around it, but they are never going
Speaker 1: to you know, change for a couple of seasons of
Speaker 1: you know, bad things and that. That's that's what is
Speaker 1: making me a little worried. What if this man returns
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six?
Speaker 4: I think he will return.
Speaker 1: If you if you seriously want him to return, then
Speaker 1: think that you need batters around him. Even in the
Speaker 1: finishing rules. He can't just go out and score. He
Speaker 1: is just there, wicked keeping rule. That is my problem.
Speaker 1: See that is like whenever like a team that lobbies
Speaker 1: into these mischiefs. Now, I want them to be ruined
Speaker 1: for as long as possible. It's not I want to
Speaker 1: play for the next don't speak like someone who don't
Speaker 1: doesn't understand that rule was there till twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: and then why was it removed? Why was it makes sense?
Speaker 1: It made sense, but they made it make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if a team says this rule was there till
Speaker 1: who was the only who was the only player that
Speaker 1: got benefited from it? No, it did harm to no one,
Speaker 1: someone like was retained. That's your entire franchise has been
Speaker 1: harmed because of that one rule. What are you on about,
Speaker 1: see don't I can't blame it on MS. I'm not
Speaker 1: limited on at all saying that way. I am saying
Speaker 1: that your franchise is obsession to keep in your team
Speaker 1: by using that one particular rule has completely ruined your
Speaker 1: season because you could not move ahead of him, You
Speaker 1: could not trust your captain, you could not get options
Speaker 1: into your team. To be honest with you, that entire
Speaker 1: team is based around AMSDONI. Whoever you wanted at the
Speaker 1: auction table, you got them, didn't you. It's not like
Speaker 1: you missed any of those players. That's the probably the
Speaker 1: one player that got away from you. Trip that you
Speaker 1: have to admit one thing that CSK messed up. Really,
Speaker 1: but it's and it does not have inputs anymore. No,
Speaker 1: I am not saying that if you pick Devon Conway,
Speaker 1: if you pick if you pick's injury, if all of
Speaker 1: them are not in formed, how have you managed to
Speaker 1: grab accumulators in your entire lineup. Are you saying that
Speaker 1: can't play another brand of cricket. He hasn't played it
Speaker 1: in the last two years. My only probably and went
Speaker 1: down after. If you blame Doni and Fleming for their stubbornness,
Speaker 1: then I agree. I won't agree to the fact that
Speaker 1: Donie was retained. That was the problem. Uh, that the
Speaker 1: problem was you don't agree to the fact that T
Speaker 1: twenty cricket can be has evolved. You still think that
Speaker 1: we can be thirty forty in the first five hours
Speaker 1: and then we can you know, go go wild in
Speaker 1: them and that is something.
Speaker 4: That our time will come next season next year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, quickly before we go, now, give me a
Speaker 1: top four predictions. We all know who are the top
Speaker 1: four right now?
Speaker 4: So I think RCB a number one? Am I your
Speaker 4: number two?
Speaker 1: Job?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, number number two? Am I a number three?
Speaker 3: And the number four, DC A number five, number l
Speaker 3: R number six? If I'm not wrong, right, Will it change?
Speaker 3: Will the top four change?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It will change.
Speaker 1: Who do you think we will go out of the top fours?
Speaker 1: My wild prediction is the Royal Challenges Bangal or ass
Speaker 1: Yeah to two teams? Okay?
Speaker 3: I think r c B will stumble, but they will
Speaker 3: finish at the fourth and they will qualify only maybe
Speaker 3: that only they can eliminated.
Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe that.
Speaker 4: After all, but from.
Speaker 3: Coming for you as as Yeah, they will just spoil
Speaker 3: a lot of parties out will see, I don't think
Speaker 3: even spoil a lot.
Speaker 1: Of parties party s party.
Speaker 4: So for me, it has to be top four quickly
Speaker 4: than me in that order, in that.
Speaker 3: Order, it has to be am I from me, number one,
Speaker 3: number two, number three and number four r c B
Speaker 3: for you, okay, said g T M I m I
Speaker 3: g T then d C and.
Speaker 1: Okay, so g T M I, d C R c V.
Speaker 4: Same same, Yeah, what a would you act?
Speaker 1: Am I for me g T r C B and
Speaker 1: d C R or d C r C three four
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I think top two, M I ND.
Speaker 1: No one cares about predictions, man, It's about who is
Speaker 1: going to win the ipl am I. Let's open the
Speaker 1: floor for our viewers and listeners. Also, if you know,
Speaker 1: what do they think about the fourteen year old prodigy
Speaker 1: and what do they think about the topic hasn't like
Speaker 1: is it MS done's fault that CSK cracked out? And
Speaker 1: also we are just twenty days away from the final.
Speaker 1: Right twenty twenty five days away from the carvel, we
Speaker 1: can get their predictions on the top four, whether something
Speaker 1: will change, whether our see we will be able to
Speaker 1: retain the top spot till the end of the leak stage.
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