WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.359 This is India Today Podcasts. 2 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:10.480 You are on India Today Podcasts and you are in 3 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.439 the Sledging Room. Let me warn you this is not 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:17.559 a place for the faint hearted and the weak need. 5 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.079 If you're a sports puff and like challenging everything you 6 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:24.160 see and hear, stay, If you're a sooner boat your 7 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:25.719 fan walk away. 8 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:42.640 Right now. You're back for another episode of Sledging Room. 9 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:46.359 Sorrow Kinkshu with me. Probably we'll start this by observing 10 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:52.479 thirty seconds of silence, can't you for peres case exit? Okay? 11 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:58.560 You know, uh, yesterday I was discussing, yeah, like sort 12 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:01.399 of one day of relief. I wasn't well, so I thought, 13 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.200 you know, probably CSK would give me some joy. And 14 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:08.280 seeing them score nineteen ten overs, nineteen ten overs, nineteen tenos, yeah, 15 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:11.159 it felt like, you know, a wild achievement for the franchise. 16 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:16.640 But one a two for five and then you give 17 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:19.680 us a hat trick and done for the first time 18 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.879 in the IPL history. For two back to back seasons. 19 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.920 CSK are not qualifying for the playoffs. So I'm gonna 20 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:32.000 observe thirty second silence any day. Any day that like 21 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:35.000 Sam Current is a top scorer, you know, you should 22 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:38.079 be ashamed of yourself, ashamed of the franchise. You probably 23 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:40.680 banned them, but so didn't want to talk about CSKA. 24 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.799 He said, enough of CSKA, enough of you know, you know, 25 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.159 talking about the franchise that isn't doing well. Let's talk 26 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.719 about people who are doing well. Okay, And I think 27 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.879 we have to give it to the man from his state, 28 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:58.920 fourteen years old, an outstanding performance one hundred in his 29 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:02.400 third IPL game in that is thirty twenty game Wheber Studio, 30 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.719 and she the entire world is talking about him, from 31 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.840 not just cricketers, from footballers to f fundraisers. Everybody has 32 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.120 been talking about him. But sort of tell me something, 33 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:17.520 is he really fourteen? Clear that once for all? You know? 34 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:20.599 What about how is it in behard? Do you guys 35 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.680 really get legal birth certificates? Do you guys get the 36 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.479 age right or not? Yeah? 37 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:27.919 Most of the cases we get the burster to get right. 38 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.400 And it looks like he's fourteen. Yeah, because if you 39 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.280 look at his past Instagram posts and the pictures which 40 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:38.199 his father has, which his father has shared, especially that 41 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:40.439 twenty seventeen photo where he looks like a six year 42 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:45.120 old guy watching that IPL game in Kolkata and supporting 43 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:47.039 rising super giant. 44 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:47.960 So it was. 45 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.879 Actually has to bring my way everywhere, you know. 46 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.560 Yeah, And you know when that hundred, when he hit 47 00:02:57.599 --> 00:03:01.680 that hundred, I was looking at an and I was 48 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.759 looking at that hundred, and I realized something that he 49 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.240 hit that six. I completed a one hundred with a 50 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.919 six on Russia Khan, whose age is in itself a 51 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:15.360 different mystery. Like Russia Khan on paper is twenty sears old. 52 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.599 Nobody knows how poor false is that. And now you 53 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.439 have raised that controversy regarding waves age. 54 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:25.439 Maybe we should cut him some slack and we should 55 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:26.759 talk about his performance section. 56 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.520 No, people are asking that on social media, so I 57 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.919 am not asking that to you know, de mean anyone. 58 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.439 I'm asking that because at fourteen, how can you do that? 59 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:38.759 That is the bewilderment and amazement that I have, Like 60 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.479 at fourteen the maximum that day, I was seeing a 61 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:44.759 real cab. At fourteen, two friends are trying to throw 62 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:47.439 their slippers, you know, far away as and like who 63 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.599 throws it far away? Is the competition? That's what people 64 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.599 do at fourteen. Probably at fourteen you were thinking about 65 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:56.919 the next day's mathematic example. But this guy comes and 66 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:00.240 takes on someone like Mamatsira who's in prime form, more 67 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.759 like prussed Krishna, who is you know, finding his rhythm 68 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:05.599 in this season, just effortlessly hitting him for success. And 69 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.599 I'm sure that he's fourteen. Yes, you know, past so 70 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:12.479 many tests. I asked you that question because it's just unbelievable. 71 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.840 That's that's that's my point. There's you know, we we 72 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.720 have proved, the bussy has proved, I feel has approved it. 73 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.079 Rajasthan royways have bought him in the campsul. We are 74 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.120 no one to do say that he's not fourteen. Similarly, also, 75 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.959 you've been playing international cricket for like say twelve years, 76 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:32.000 ten years. Yeah, but that kind of you know, at fourteen, 77 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.639 what was your biggest achievement in life? I don't know, 78 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:38.399 O kiss a girl or something was something like that 79 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:41.079 at that time. Like that's that that that's what your 80 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:45.639 focus is right at fourteen, which is nine at fourteen? 81 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.720 Yeah, ninth fourteen. 82 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.839 How can you be in ninth? First, let me check 83 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:56.480 your age at fourteen? Can you be in ninth fifteen? 84 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.920 I finished ten eighteen, I finished twelve. Yeah, that's the 85 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:01.519 that's how it works, right, So you were an eighth 86 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:05.480 or ninth yeah, oh yeah, whatever that that period around 87 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.959 only but yeah, like I think Dravid also spoke about 88 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:10.959 the same thing. But for me at least, like the 89 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.720 story isn't that he is fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, 90 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:17.040 whatever is. He may be twenty six, but giving me 91 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:20.079 a century in thirty five balls at a stage like IPL, 92 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.360 that's the feat. That's what should be talked about. People 93 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:25.720 will always be there with these wonder kids. There is 94 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.360 always a question of how old they are. Yeah, right, 95 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:32.600 And we I think we also have spoken about there 96 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:36.040 are several young talents. There's a history of young talents 97 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.920 doing well at this sage across the world. They are special. 98 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.800 They're meant to be special, don't There is no point 99 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.480 discussing if he's fourteen or sixteen or seventeen, how old 100 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:49.120 could he be? Only sojagachalot at Max. But the point 101 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.279 is that the things that he is doing in his 102 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.800 rookie season at IPL is extremely special. You know, it's 103 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.519 a very I spoke to his coach and he old 104 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.079 spoke to how Dravid about you know, you had an 105 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.079 impress interaction with him. What exactly did he say, as in, 106 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:08.279 like in terms of his development, are we you know 107 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:10.439 now that he has scored his one hundred and on 108 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.600 Thursday he'll be playing another match again Bomber Indians. He'll 109 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.399 face the likes of Trent Bolt and just with Boomra 110 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.000 if he fails, should as in people will judge him. 111 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.439 He's like, okay, as a star attack, then you scored, 112 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.839 but against Boomrah you can't do it. So how do 113 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.839 you deal with those kinds of How should he deal 114 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:30.680 with those kinds of questions? What did mister Awl Dravitz say? 115 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.079 That's actually like one of the prominent questions that got 116 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.759 asked to Dravid, Like my question to him was that 117 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:40.000 you have grown up with such a sorrow of and 118 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.519 you have seen them cross that age of fourteen, sixteen, 119 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.639 eighteen nineteen compared to him, how special do you think 120 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.800 that this kid is? So he said, it's not only 121 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:52.079 them such in Sawrow. He has seen a young rishapanth 122 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:54.399 he has seen a young Schumannhill because he was the 123 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.959 undernighting coach right and then the ncaahead and he says 124 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:02.279 that he's also seen a young Khalilah was exceptionally talented 125 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:06.720 Dravid says that we have to be very careful when 126 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:11.680 we praise Vibvibove and when we criticize him, because there 127 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:15.079 is a graph that every cricketer has to take. Some 128 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:19.360 mature late, some mature very early. A deep an inevitable 129 00:07:19.480 --> 00:07:22.959 dip is going to come drawed. Is saying that Indian 130 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.160 media fans and the critics have to be very careful 131 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:31.160 in their criticism or praise of the cricketer himself. And 132 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.759 Dravid also says that I can't hide him from all 133 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.879 of that. If you are a cricketer, if you're earnning 134 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:41.439 the big bucks, the criticism and the focus comes with 135 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.160 the job. I can't hide him from it, but we 136 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.759 will help him navigate through that. I think that was 137 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:52.120 quite like interesting or special how a senior pro former cricketer, 138 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.480 a legend is trying to, you know, like give it 139 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.319 back to the ecosystem of the like the heart that 140 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.600 he must have faced when he was growing up, when 141 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.040 he was getting slammed for his poor batting, and he's 142 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:04.800 trying to, you know, like help that fourteen year old 143 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:08.040 navigate through that space. Actually, you also talked to his 144 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:09.079 coach child lose. 145 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.519 If I'm not wrong. What did he say about. 146 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:18.399 Child Yeah, watchful personal writing in that story of childhood 147 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.959 coach a personal coach because if you what, what more 148 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:28.079 is childhood for him than fourteen with childhood? But you know, 149 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:31.319 I asked him about this one because like many people 150 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.559 ask him a lot of questions, but I asked him 151 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:35.919 this one. How how could he generate so much power? 152 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.240 Like if you see that eleven six is that he 153 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:42.120 lived against threatens? Three of them are eighty five meter 154 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:45.600 plus and two of them were ninety meter plus. If 155 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.159 you look at so that eleven sixes is more than 156 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:51.759 what csk in their entire season, it seems in the power. 157 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:55.840 So that is one start that I asked him, how 158 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.639 can he generate so much power? Did he do anything special? 159 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:00.840 When I asked him that question, he was a little touchy. 160 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:02.600 He said, no, people can generate that much more. I 161 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.679 said no, So I'm not asking in that regard. I'm 162 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.600 not asking how can a fourteen year old generate that 163 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.159 much power? But can tell me how you guys worked 164 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:12.519 on it? So he said he had a terrific batlift. 165 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.039 When he saw him first, itself very high. He has 166 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.200 a batlift like a Brian l Urat Sing and many people, 167 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.879 many coaches in India try to you know, okay, say that, okay, 168 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.720 don't play with that higher bat lift. But in this 169 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.159 generation of T twenty cricket, where power hitting has taken 170 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.600 the has become prominent. He said, I just let him be. 171 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.720 I just let him be. And instead of from his 172 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.519 young age, I fed him, you know, three hundred to 173 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:37.639 three fifty balls he used to play, and that with 174 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.039 that high backlift. He used to play all shots. He 175 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.279 used to train, all shot, not a single shot missed, 176 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.799 all around the circle he used to play. And one 177 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.440 more thing what he said was he bowled him full 178 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.720 tosses when he was you know, training when as as 179 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:52.320 a ten year old, twel year old, when you pitch 180 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.080 the ball, when you use that bowling machine, sometimes the 181 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.000 ball jumps and all that. But so out of three 182 00:09:57.080 --> 00:09:59.759 fifty three hundred balls per day, one hundred of them 183 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.240 would full tosses where he just focused on his power. 184 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.679 Just hit those full tosses. You don't have to worry about, 185 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.799 you know, the ball pitching and moving away, the ball 186 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.399 pitching and coming in. So these were somehow they know, 187 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.600 and he said, you were seeing nineteen meters sixcess now, 188 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.519 but I saw him hit nineteen meters sixcess when he 189 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:17.799 was ten and a half years old. So he said, 190 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:19.919 I organized a tournament when he came with his father. 191 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:23.559 I couldn't see him in action because he was playing 192 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.679 all across BHR, is what he told me. And then 193 00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.399 they would his father and him would send him scorecards 194 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:30.759 to say that he's good enough to be in your academy. 195 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.440 So one day he hosted a tournament for a webove 196 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.240 as in for his team against under nineteen Bihar State 197 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:40.480 state level triketers. So in that match, the boundaries were 198 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:44.159 sixty yards, but Weber hit them thirty yards further than 199 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.919 the boundary it seems at ten and a half eleven. 200 00:10:47.039 --> 00:10:48.799 This was in twenty twenty two, is what he told me. 201 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.320 So then itself he knew that Weber would go on 202 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:55.840 to become a big, big player and good support as well. Right, 203 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:59.360 Rajasthan Royals took him for one point one core and 204 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:01.559 it didn't mean that they just blooded him straight away. 205 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.919 Quite quite a lot of us were asking whether it 206 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:06.679 was just I watched that they picked him up in 207 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:10.320 the auction yea, whether it's just you know, lip service 208 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.879 or something like that, because fourteen year old, you might 209 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.240 not play him, you just might use him to be 210 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.279 in the part of the setup. And Dravid also at 211 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.600 the start did say that we did not buy him 212 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.279 thinking that we would play him. He did say that 213 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:27.000 we were going to nurture him, and Rajasthan had a 214 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.240 history of doing that with multiple players. Yeah, I think 215 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:34.200 several things went wrong for them to introduce the thing right. 216 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.200 Several things went wrong. And at the same time you 217 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.080 should also look at how probably Whyber would have been 218 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.840 very impressive in the nets. Yes, Sancho Samson, injury, Rhon 219 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:47.240 Park's poor form and all that is there. But even 220 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:49.600 the even the PTA report, one p report said that 221 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:53.759 he never was differentiated from anyone else in the training routines. Yeah, 222 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.080 he was bold one fifty kilometers per hour. This Druid 223 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:02.120 spoke about. He said that raj Usthan arranged five camps 224 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.879 in the run up to the IPL and the they 225 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.960 the franchise. He put additional focus to make Beaver familiar 226 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.879 with the entire setup, that's including the coaching management, the staff, 227 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.759 the throwdown specialist and the CEOs of that group that 228 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.000 who go who go around the team, so that he 229 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:25.080 could ask for things that he wanted and they could 230 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.840 train him in a way where he felt comfortable. So 231 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.519 quite partiality in Nita that you speak that one hundred 232 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.600 and fifty bolcar nets pay because that's what he is 233 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.120 essentially going to face, and now more more than before 234 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:40.120 because I think at least in against Mumbai there when 235 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:43.559 you target him with shortballs at fourteen, if I were 236 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.879 in NIPL team, I would have asked these seniors some chocolates, 237 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:51.639 free food and all that. You know, hlaystation, PlayStation, you know, 238 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.679 sit with maybe Sancho Samson and play feef through the 239 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.399 night and then sleep. But for someone you know, you 240 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:02.240 make use of that opportunity is really good, right, doesn't 241 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:03.639 like he's not he's from a humble background. 242 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.399 Yeah, he's a very humble background. And his father has 243 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.159 almost given his entire life. So his father was the 244 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.879 one who wanted to be a cricketer, but then he 245 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:15.240 could not be because of finals in the sistens and 246 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.399 he had to do a small business, that's what is it. 247 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:21.639 And because of uh he changed his job, he sold 248 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.000 his land and I have I read a report where 249 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:29.000 his father used to take him and travel day and 250 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:31.279 night and his mother used to cook, not just for 251 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.559 him and his father, she also used to cook for 252 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.720 the net bowlers so that they can they don't have 253 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:38.720 to go somewhere for lunch and they can bowl extra 254 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:39.279 balls to. 255 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:43.159 Or something like that. Report. 256 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:48.120 Yes, so it is just like that. The success had 257 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:51.360 not come overnight. There's a very very long process and 258 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:52.639 a lot of people were involved. 259 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.440 Yeah, but money showed U. The coach, he told me 260 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:59.320 that keep this like, take this from me. He will 261 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:04.279 play for India in at least in two to three years. 262 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:08.000 Do you see that happening? Three years is a long 263 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:11.120 time because we that we should be discussing here or not. 264 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.840 I think it's too early, man. I think it's good. 265 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:15.759 It's good to think. Like, if you can't think, you 266 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:17.960 won't be able to do. If you don't have a dream, 267 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.399 how do you go on to and achieve it? So 268 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.240 I think at some point it will happen. I hope 269 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.519 it happens as soon as possible. But two to three 270 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:27.679 years is a little bit of her. 271 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:34.000 So when Davishasti was asked about and he said, look, 272 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:36.879 I'm very impressed with the way this young chap is batting. 273 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.720 But my only advice is just let him play, let 274 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:42.519 him enjoy the game. He's getting that fame because he 275 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.440 has worked very hard and he has got shortcomings as 276 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:47.879 a battle people will target with him short balls and 277 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.320 there are different ways where he can be targeted. 278 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:51.679 So let him play the game. 279 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:55.519 And the people who are involved in his growth, his parents, 280 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:00.679 the other coaching set up, all these people, they should 281 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.919 be training him to play, to become a cricketer who 282 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:07.000 can play across from it. So let him grow, let 283 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.720 him play, and let him enjoy this pace because he 284 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.799 has given so much to celebrate for the entire country 285 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.840 and this is a very good, good thing for the intricate. 286 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.159 Also, one thing that his coach told me at fourteen, like, 287 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.080 you know, at fourteen, if you see kids as like 288 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.039 I'm not making a general statement, but the kids that 289 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.120 I have seen, they rarely listen to people as in 290 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.919 they're very excited. They want to you know, prove up, 291 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.200 they want to say something their teams, right, Yeah, they're 292 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.440 excitable at that stage that he has never had to 293 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.759 tell something that he taught to him another time. He 294 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.720 has never had to scold him for learning something. That's 295 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.799 the kind of you know, absorption that probably might have 296 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:48.960 taken him there as in like you have to have 297 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:52.159 that keen learning ability, as in like listening ability and 298 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.000 learning ability. And this kid looks special, like you know what, 299 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.799 we were discussing that in the early nineties, we were 300 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.919 not able to see that. And at least we have 301 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.039 heard stories of such a going to Western d Is 302 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:06.159 going to Pakistan and dominating at sixteen seventeen. I think 303 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.440 such a scot Is debut hundred at seventeen or something, right. 304 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:12.279 But the good that we are able to see something 305 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.440 of that of that teacher again, of that you know 306 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.960 phenomen again, But don't you think so like I'm not 307 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.559 comparing him the second the second you put a tab 308 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:27.000 on him now, but that that at fourteen fifteen? Can 309 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.279 you do so so something so special? But they were 310 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:33.279 so like like Dravid says, when Punths broke into the 311 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:38.080 same he was sixteen, what level that around that similar 312 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.519 h kpe only he was playing India and under nineteenth 313 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:46.000 which weber will someday and you would argue that when 314 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.519 when when Punths came up, Month was dubbed as a 315 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.000 generational talent, much like this kid, and not a lot 316 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.960 of generation has passed between but just say, fourteen years 317 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.600 old hitting an IPL century is not Month, It's not 318 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:02.399 Sanjo Sampson, it's not Kale. Is something more special than 319 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:05.400 that is what I think. It is special. Absolutely. I 320 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:07.119 am not saying that he will go on to become 321 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:10.119 a such in We didn't. We didn't. I was not 322 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.920 fortunate enough to see such a dominating Pakistan at sixteen seventeen. 323 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.559 The legends something of that sort has happened, and I'm 324 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:20.319 fortunate that I have seen it live. 325 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.839 Yeah, absolutely, I mean you look at it. 326 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.880 Everyone was talking about how a fourteen year old die 327 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:31.960 has taken the cricketing world by storm, especially if you 328 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.160 look at his batting and that power hitting leave that hundred. 329 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:37.119 Talk about his. 330 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:42.599 Debut first aids that was out of that that shook 331 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:46.240 up ECB head rob Key. Yeah, he tweeted out what 332 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:47.480 the hell am I saying here? 333 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.759 And then against RCV smashing birds like Hazel Lord and 334 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.920 so he is special. No, no one has taken that. 335 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:57.279 Even the spring game is good. 336 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:04.880 Yeah yeah. And more importantly, India has, especially IP is 337 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.440 a breeding around for Indian cricketing talent, and that is 338 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.400 what ill Is meant to do. And Rahu would also 339 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:14.160 because Sportsual did an interview with our team manager romy Winder, 340 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.559 who said that Driver was very very happy and emotional about. 341 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:20.039 Hundred. 342 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:24.039 When we came back after getting dismissed. Rad helped him 343 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.039 and told him to keep doing this and hopefully I 344 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.119 can deliver you to the Indian cricket. So there's there's 345 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.720 a process in the mission out there that Webovesuvency is 346 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.559 a great talent. He's special. Let's churn him into a 347 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:40.480 great Indian cricketing talent. 348 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.559 Just you said such a brilliant point because a couple 349 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.160 of weeks before, remember Ambatira do what he said. He 350 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:51.880 said that Rajasthan Royals we think that they are doing 351 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.319 charity towards Indian cricket. Yes, and they have won nothing. 352 00:18:56.359 --> 00:19:01.440 They're a legacy less team and that that after winning 353 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:05.319 the Maiden the first I feel they have done nothing 354 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.799 in that tournament. Yeah, some people are calling them with 355 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:11.599 one title with one title here, but that that is 356 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:14.880 what Rajasthan's brand forever has been. 357 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:15.279 Right. 358 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:17.720 At least they have a set brand. They know what 359 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:21.720 they're out to accomplish. Even when Dravid was explaining their 360 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.599 retention policy, they said that we were very clear that 361 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:28.400 we need to keep our Indian young players with us 362 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:34.160 like Shimron Meyer. Since the Indian young players were off 363 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.799 top order nature, they had to keep one. They wanted 364 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.440 to keep one overseas players and Hetmayer was the only 365 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.400 one fitting into their plan. That was the logic behind it. 366 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:47.839 But my point is that when Ambadi says these things, 367 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.000 does he not think before speaking? Because you you you 368 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:55.200 see what's happened to cskn Now so this whole title 369 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.400 winning mentality and etcetera, etcetera. They're the first team to 370 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:59.920 get knocked out of the tournament. That's army is a 371 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.720 Outd's armies out. So what do you these things like? 372 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.799 Is it not okay for Rajasthan to focus on nurturing 373 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.960 Indian talent first and then think of the IPL see 374 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:13.839 see according to me, you nurture Indian talent. You don't 375 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.440 nurture Indian talent. You play with thirty six year olds, 376 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.640 you play with sixteen year olds. You you come to 377 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:22.920 the IPL deciding what you have to do. That's what. 378 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.920 So don't tell anyone, don't tell a bomba Indians that okay, 379 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:28.119 you will have to you can't keep those you know, 380 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:31.319 keep retaining those star cores. Players don't tell tennis superkings 381 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.599 that play these youngsters they will learn This season probably 382 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.920 is a learning curve for them that you can't always make, 383 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.480 you know, make You can't always get Shane Watson fat 384 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.119 to place and revive their careers. You can't do that 385 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.359 with probably. And also it's it's also depending on form 386 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:52.079 and all that. So it's it's it's every team has 387 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:54.839 its own DNA. That's the beauty of IPL so let 388 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:57.000 that be. Let it, Let that be that way. It 389 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:58.839 is what I think or do not think, that AA 390 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.759 is actually doing us Indian credit. Many other teams are. 391 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:05.759 Every every team is, you know, and that is something 392 00:21:05.799 --> 00:21:10.680 that we have to acknowledge and be proud of instead 393 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:13.599 of shunning them down. No one is doing. 394 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:16.480 I do not agree with Ambatisi's point, but what I 395 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:19.799 believe is, Okay, you want to give to great you 396 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:23.240 have good Indian talent, but as a franchise, he has 397 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:25.039 a team. You are there to compete in the league. 398 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.119 You're there to win the league. So your retentions have 399 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:30.240 to make You have to make sense why you have 400 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:37.599 announcing your attentions. No since because before this hundred all 401 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:41.200