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Speaker 2: Files, and now here's Mac Wow. Here we are again. Well,
good evening everyone, and welcome to Macloney's militark Saw shown
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beats off there Jujo broadcasting live from the Stopped Galley Restaurant,
fifty five Water Stret Louis Pote, Massachusetts. Great seafood, great hamburgers,
and a great steak and cheese Sammy. I'm watching one
of them being consumed right in front of me and
also apparel the Youngion rings.
Speaker 3: To die for now I'm starving.
Speaker 2: I know me too. Anyway, we have quite a shoe
for you tonight, and let me introduce the members of
the Possum Girls. Yes, the vibe you felt all week,
it's coming from the right source. Yeah, baby, I'll sit
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and clean. It's your big box of wipes, Squeegey and
you Lou because he's here, the very famous one one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, baby, you're gonna need a lot of those tonight,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: It's good to see you.
Speaker 2: Good to see you, too.
Speaker 3: Good to see you. I haven't been here live in
a while, but that's another story. You are, yep, U
s here now and I'm polishing up my vibe. I'm
going to set it to eleven and you're going to
be in vibe heaven.
Speaker 2: So right, I like that.
Speaker 3: Going to be aware first one of my flag that
tape right all right? Okay, but you don't even know
what that means.
Speaker 2: Flag that yeah, you'd put when they used to actually
do tape, they put them a piece of tape in
there so you would know where the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the real to real tape that things going around
and something cools happening. You get these strips of paper,
you throw it in there.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm smart. I can do stuff.
Speaker 3: You number, you number the pieces of paper and then
you get a que sheet. Right, yeah, yeah, you say
cut number one Red Sox Home Runners.
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I used to do. Did you get
my Freido impression there?
Speaker 3: I'm smart?
Speaker 2: Anyway? It was good, okay. So also joining us later
on hopefully we'll be a corresponding down there and my
sister's tank Top West Virginia, which played Steve Wad. He'll
be here with us hopefully, but here in the studio
with us, well hang on, let me just uh he's
already pouting. So also with us as our engineer producer,
Getaway driver, B Killer, Uncle Ale, the Kiddies, Pal, Alan Naldough,
Hey Mac, everybody.
Speaker 3: He said, the B Killer he's a bee whisperer forty
thousand wind up dead is well sometimes you know it
helps his he just steps in it and it's you know, yeah,
you know, you can't control nature sometimes.
Speaker 4: Speaking of killing that many, I happened to catch part
of an interview with some World War two Vetuy a
Congressional Mail of honor guy, and they were just kind
of elderly now, and he were chatting with him and
he said, yeah, I probably killed ten thousand, Yeah, communists,
you know, North Koreans. And they go they how'd you
do it? He goes, well, you know, a gun, hand grenade.
And I was also a forward spotter, so I called
him the strikes and said, I would you know he
goes killed.
Speaker 2: He's taking credit for those.
Speaker 4: Well, he said, you know, I'm the one who's in
the line of fire doing it well. And he said
he holds the record to this day of most confirmed
hand to hand combat kills in the service.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, so this guy's bad. I mean he's well, yeah,
you're obviously bad.
Speaker 4: You don't want to mess with it. I believe he
might be. I mean, I don't know how old the
interview was, but it was interesting just hearing him saying
he was carrying a guy back down the hill and
he needed more ammo. So he went down the hill
to his buddies, got more, AMO, came back up, kept
killing people, picked the guy up, brought him back down,
got more AMO, went back up and did it like
four times. Yeah, yeah, and he was shot three times. Yeah,
and he just kept on going. And he said, I
didn't even go to the doctor to get one of
the wounds treated. I just wrapped it up myself. And
because only three of them, that's okay, bullets, yep, just amazing. Yeah, yeah,
somehow people there are people who do that. He said
he ran up the hill with there were thirty six
of them going up the hill, and he was leading them.
When he got to the top, he was the only
one standing really, and then he went into the trench
with them and started killing them.
Speaker 2: The Korean War talk about was that of a fought
right and they've forgotten. But I mean a complete waste
of time, energy, lives, money, because it's settled nothing. It
literally settled nothing. They were They went back to where
they were before. So what was the point? Okay, Vietnam
really kind of the same thing in a way. You know, nothing,
there was nothing we lost, There was nothing accomplished.
Speaker 3: The Korean thing, it's a ceasefire now, right.
Speaker 2: It's not even they've never even settled the law.
Speaker 3: Yeah to pause.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll tell you North Korea, man, you see
those YouTube videos? Are you going? And life in North Korea.
Speaker 4: Oh well, when the defectors come here in their military, yeah, yes,
and they bring them in, they show them like restaurants
or to bring them supermarkets, and they're like, this is
this is a setup? Yeah, oh yeah, you only brought
us here because it's propaganda or something. You pick a place,
we'll get down the highway, You tell us way to
get off, and when they can't believe, you tell us
what story to go in.
Speaker 2: See, that's just how brainwashing works, you know, they make
them think from kids on that. You know, they got
good in Moth Korea and the rest of the world
is you don't going to help. I don't know how
they get well and away they're right, but you know,
they're just they're just so it's a police state to
the empty grae. You know.
Speaker 4: Well, one of those one of those guys that the
uh it defected here, they showed him a film of
I think it was an A ten warthog coming in
and just you know, the big cannon in the nose
and it was just decimating an area the size of
a football field. Yeah yeah, I think it was putting
out a bullet out of how many, how big, and
the guys watching it and he goes, that's real. That
really you guys have that? Yeah yeah, and the government
let you see it. Yeah well yeah right you can
as they don't even have enough gasoline too to train
They train in trainers, yeah right, because they don't let him.
Speaker 2: Take the planes up. I'll tell you that guy runs it,
Kim Yung yun okay, and his father and the father
before him, they were all real perverts, man, and some
of the stuff that goes on at that place. If
you believe these YouTube videos, he's like Epstein. How do
you say Epstein and Korean? Anyway, let's move on. We
have a special guest live.
Speaker 3: We have had fact checkers working on it right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll way back to here from there. We have
a special guest here live in the studio. He's with
us every week. But he uh, just came in like
the pope. He's snuck it on us, snuck in on us. Okay,
so we're gonna clap. I thought Willy Club in the house.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this is a real treat, you know,
to be here right at Sencom with you guys, and
I'm watching it every week on on zoom. But to
see the real thing, to look and.
Speaker 2: Touch the well oiled, the well oiled machine that where
we are. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5: Plus I'm a firm believer that you know, you have
to get out with the little people once in a while.
Speaker 2: So this is my opportunity that this is your penance
for once a year. Once a year.
Speaker 5: Yeah maybe, but this steak and cheese i'm having, though,
I might have to be here more offer.
Speaker 2: That's great, good, I'm telling you, man, that's the best.
Speaker 3: Whatever you leave behind, I'll eat.
Speaker 2: It, okay, there'd be nothing left. And the fries, I
love those, your fries. I'm enough you're a big fan
of those.
Speaker 5: But no, I my I have an allergy to a
lot of fried foods my stomach. So the fries will
be given to you guys. Oh well, I'm not giving
any part of.
Speaker 4: My the next time, audit with onion rings because if
we get the fries, we'll get the onion right here.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, they're really good, so I asked Dave once
David is the owner and the bottender here tonight. What
makes it so good? Right? He said? You just get
the best steak. That's that's how you do it, you know,
And you get the best eak and they cook, and
the cook here we should have him on the shows sometimes.
He's been here twenty one years, you know, which is
a long time. And the food biz right, and he
knows how to do it, you know. And the food
is good here. But that that that steak and cheese, man,
I get it on my birthday and around Christmas and
that's it, but very good.
Speaker 4: Well, it's the same thing with their seafood. They buy
their seafood from the seafood Press up the street, yeah yeah,
which is fresh. It's like one of the best seafood
markets in the way, in the area. But when you
see David's David's right, when you see that truck pulling
out of restaurants and you know, during the day, you know, well,
I can buy seafood there because they buy it all fresh.
It's not frozen, it's not yeah right, it's the real deal,
you know.
Speaker 5: But getting back the steak and cheese, I go back.
I remember when steak and cheese subs firust really took off,
you yeah, yeah, you know back in the seventies when
they started, and boy I got addicted to them and
I became a connoisseur, believe it or not. I used
to go to all the different sub shops around if
the steak and cheese to test them, and I had
one that was my favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But if we import steak and cheese from Midwest, yeah,
I think it came from the Midwest or something.
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you to me. The thing about the
steak and cheese is much is the cheese itself?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh, that cheese has a lot to do
with it. And you know the Philly steak, you know,
the whole Philly steak thing. I guess that's where it
came from. Yeah. Of course, when you take the Amtrak
from from Florida and back, which I've done a number
of times. Okay, they stopped. You might remember the Seinfeld
episode where they stop in Philly and you sit there
for fifteen minutes and they tell you, okay, listen, you
know the famous steak and cheese is right upstairs. Go
up there. But you got fifteen minutes they get back
on the train, okay. And what it is is why
it's different from everywhere else around here. Hi, Brandy, is
you know what they put the cheese on? Done in Philly?
They put that cheese whiz on. Yeah, it doesn't sound right. No,
it happened.
Speaker 5: One of the places I went to when I was
first going around, they had the cheese with cheese.
Speaker 2: Was I got to tie you. I'd like that. It
was good because it has a lot of really powerful
flavor and whatever.
Speaker 6: Che it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, if you have. I justn't know.
Speaker 5: Old time, the old time radio, these shows that go
we'll go back to the forties and fifties and that's
when that cheese was first. I think it's craft and
they talk about how it's real, they real cheese and
don't be afraid to get it and all that.
Speaker 2: But they have to tell you that then there's that's
a red flag.
Speaker 3: It's like a liquefied version of what comes with the
macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly what it is. Yeah, they squeeze it
out just like you do ketchup or whatever. I think
it's easier for them to make the sub that way.
It's the true absolutely and you know.
Speaker 5: But but anyways, you know, getting back to the steak
and cheese, and like I say, I'm a connoisseur.
Speaker 3: But wisconsinant you know this is well, this is her territory.
That's probably a cow going right through her living room
right now with a big with a big.
Speaker 5: Say, you know, I couldn't wait to get right there,
oh good, But I couldn't wait to get the Philly
to try that because everyone said, you know, this isn't
a new thing, you know, it's just new for Massachusetts. Yeah,
says that they came from Philly. Okay, so I remember
the first time we get out in Philly that went
they had one. They had everything in it, onions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a plane Jane, A nice steak and cheese.
Nothing else in it is, no onions, nothing. And when
I that's what they said to me, They said, so
what do you want? What you runners or do you
want them? I said I don't want anything, and they
looked at me like I had three heads.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. They almost didn't want to give it.
Speaker 3: To button under the counter.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So that was the first and only time that when
I go to Philly that I ever had a cheese steak.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good. So so when you when you're on
the Amtrak train, so it stops and then you know
the next thing you know, there's ten people in your
car and they get the subs right, and all you
can do is smell it. It's just, oh my goodness,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: But what time you're in the dining car? Is that
what's happening?
Speaker 2: No? No, you're just right beside you man eating it. Yeah,
thanks for nothing. I'll tell you a funny story, real quick,
real story. So I went, I had to stay down
there for extended period of time. So I went to
a deli around the corner from where I was living,
right and a renting. And it's a real old fashioned
Jewish deli, let's put it that weight. But it's in
a kind of touristy edge of a touristy place. The
guy comes in before me and he goes, yeah, give
me a pastrami, green pastrami on rye okay, which is
what they do a million times a day. And I said,
what do you want? He goes mustard and mayonnaise, and
the guy goes no, No, He goes, what do you
mean No? He says, we're not going to put mayonnaise
on it? No. He says, no, I just want no,
we don't do that.
Speaker 3: Next get out of my store? Is that a Seinfeld?
Speaker 2: I was just going to say that get out of
my store and felt upsode right, yeah, assume Nazi. Well listen,
let's lighten up the mood. And she's joining us hot
tonight in more than night, more ways than one. Brandy
is with us. Let's clap for her because it so
glad to see her. Brandy, how are you?
Speaker 6: I am great?
Speaker 3: Has everybody there excellent?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're good.
Speaker 6: Yeah good, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 2: Can we comment on the hairdoo now? Or should we wait?
Speaker 6: If you would like it changed, you should comment now.
Speaker 3: I'll let you go first.
Speaker 2: We changed, Okay, I think it's very glamorous, very kind
of Audrey Pepper and Ish would.
Speaker 3: This The hair is off to one side. What do
you call that style? Brandy off?
Speaker 6: It's just it's just up. It's rainy. It's so rainy today,
it's just up. So it's just there.
Speaker 2: We used to style devil make care, definitely care really.
Speaker 3: Back in the fifties.
Speaker 2: Well, let's not go back that far. Well, anyway, you
look very glamorous tonight if you don't mind us saying,
okay things, there's not a law suit at the end
of that. Yeah, nice show.
Speaker 3: Anyway, So we're a lawsuit or a tericely worded letter
from her letter significant other.
Speaker 6: No compliments are always accepted, really, all right, well maybe
you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: It's funny. We live in a world, and I think
the last ten years have proven that in a world
of we make a compliment to somebody in public, it's
considered creepy.
Speaker 5: I know, but I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't understand that. Well nobody, You know, people are
so rude to each other. You would think people would
be so accepting of any kind of compliment that somebody
would give, especially after.
Speaker 3: The stupid pandemic.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: I feel bad when people have to apologize before they
give me a compliment. You know, they're like, don't take
this the wrong way, or I don't want to sound creepy,
but you know, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm
so sorry that you have to couch your comment right.
Speaker 2: The line the line you don't want to say in
the bar is I don't want to sign so creepy.
But you're adorable anyway. Wow. Okay, So we're waiting switch
at some point, and we just wanted to talk a
little bit about I sent you guys right the the
the link for oh the drones, right yep, all right,
So now I don't think so a year ago. A
year ago, all right at this time, because we just
passed our year anniversary here at the stop of Galley Broadcasting,
there was a huge, huge flap, as they call it,
where everyone in New Jersey was seeing drones, Okay, seen everywhere,
and I mean like a lot of people saw them.
And when they weld see them, they would be like
twenty of them. Okay, they're doing formations, they're doing this,
they're doing that. People took videos of them. Yeah. They
asked the FAA, which should know about these things. They
didn't know anything about it. The military said they didn't
know anything about it. But these things basically went over
the entire state of New Jersey because they saw them
in New Jersey of all places. Right. So anyway, it
came out a week ago this week that what it
really was was some company who's working for the military
and testing a new kind of drone okay, literally blanketed
New Jersey with their drones just to see how they worked.
And the military knew about it. Obviously, this company knew
about it. They kept everybody in the dock. But that's
what it was. Now here's the strange thing. It snotted
down in New Jersey, but it came all the way
up here. I can remember the news reports on the
local Boston channels here people seeing drunes. We had a
guy in here al twice, right, but we would see
them in Ipswich. And he was like a pilot or something.
He says, I know that just between a plane and
the drone. These were not planes. These were something else.
So they came all the way up here. Whatever they
were doing, they basically said, we were testing a new
type of drone. The military said it was okay, it
was obviously covert, but now we can reveal it. So
that's that's what happened. That's what I got from that story. Anyway,
what do you say.
Speaker 5: Club, Yeah, the only thing that bothers me is that,
you know, at that time, the military and the government itself.
Speaker 2: Was quiet, right, It's like they had no idea what
was going on.
Speaker 5: We saying, you got to be kidney. With all this technology,
you can't you can't determine what that is. Then all
of a sudden, you know, people would say, well why
aren't you you know, if they're up there, someone's seeing things,
why don't you shoot them down? And then of course
the comment was which was you know, it had to say,
is well, if we do it, could you know, land
all over someone's hopes or whatever. But the old thing
just doesn't smell right, you know. But you know that's
what they're telling us about.
Speaker 2: They knew it. They knew it, and the reason they
said they didn't shoot them down was that they couldn't
identify any safety related issues, so we let them alone.
I mean, that was the spin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so they blow it up over someone's house, over
a beach where people are.
Speaker 3: I understand, they're not hurting anybody, look at it. It's
just flying around, no worries.
Speaker 5: But I mean people were getting nervous. They were saying,
well maybe the Chinese, remember the Chinese with those balloons
and everything at that time. So all of a sudden,
now this pops up and nobody wants to talk about it.
You know, just to me, it didn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 4: See, all that they had to do to shut everybody
up was to say it was a drone company that
was doing work like for its super Bowl. For Super
Bowl as you know, when they're all in formation and
they're trying to keep them all together over a large
area rehearsing. Yeah, you know, they're checking out the software
on a light show. Yeah, and who would know the difference.
And he was, Okay, we're stupid enough, we believe it.
Speaker 2: And I don't think they I don't think they think
like that in a way, you know what I mean.
I think that they think, all right, listen, the first
thing we do is deny it. Deny it, okay, And
it's like, oh, there's no safety there, the issues, so
we're not going to pay attention to it. That's they
say about UFOs too, And and they didn't and then
he yield later the truth comes out. I mean, that's
that's like kind of the playbook in a way, you know.
But so now they have drones that can blanket an
entire state, okay, in coordination. So think of that for
a second.
Speaker 3: I do think of it. It keeps you up at
night sometimes.
Speaker 2: But I mean, really, I mean when you see the
like the displays of the Super Bowl at these fireworks
displays with the Olympics and everything's incredible. It's thousands of them,
thousands of them up there, you know, doing like carricages,
and and they're not hitting each.
Speaker 3: Other, you know, they're all It's amazing. The choreography is
just just.
Speaker 2: Think of one one whoops. We have a lot of
dunk on the ground, but they never go whoops. Yeah
they haven't yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see the electronic mechanism that where
you can control one hundred drones or however many and.
Speaker 4: Keep It's got to be something that keeps them. They
have to be aware of themselves and where the other
ones are so they don't get it within.
Speaker 2: Their space, right, But it's got to be a hell
of approchate.
Speaker 3: I know how electric electric lighting at rock shows is
operated by the dimmers and the control panel for that
you set up as what they call is a scene.
Push the button for that scene is going to play it,
play it and allow each instrument to do its part
in the final visual outcome. I can see that with drones.
I guess the technology. I'd love to be in front
of the the guy who orchestrates.
Speaker 2: Uh, but I wonder how fast.
Speaker 3: Isn't there a show a Pink Floyd's show where they
play music and then they have a light show that
goes with the oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeahue does that? But I wonder if
they do it up your pre programmed in in an
office or in a studio and then bring it out
and has its own separate idea. And not to get
too deeply, they must have like kind of radar on
them to keep themselves away from each other.
Speaker 2: They're going to be self aware enough.
Speaker 5: To Well, have you heard the recent stuff about the drones.
We're buying a drone technology now from Ukraine? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they've you know, obviously they're not getting enough support. So
what they've done is they said, well, we're going to
have to go ahead and build our own stuff. So
they've really developed quite a bit of technology now and
train drone warfare. So I just read yesterday that part
of the agreement with them is that they're going to
give us sell us obviously some of that drone technology.
Imagine a company like a country like Ukraine, you think
you would be so far ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but
they had to do it by necessity, right, Yeah, that's
the thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's some tomahawks in the mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're hoping for.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that, but anyways, they I'd
love to see this technology they have, but I mean
It's amazing what they've been able to do sending these
drones over into Moscow. Yeah yeah, yeah, without getting you know,
shot down, shot down. So I think that has a
lot to do with it. The technology is just moving
so fast now, but unfortunately we're not the ones that really.
Speaker 2: Are driving it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: From what I heard, they started up by taking drones
we sent them and modify them exactly. They worked through that, right,
they made them better or more suited to what they needed.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have drones that would I've seen on
YouTube and I know you only see in one side
of the story, but a drone literally will spot a tank.
But Donna, it's got like this. It looks like a
little bomb, literally a little bomb and put it right
down through the turret and boom gone. I mean it
probably cost them three or four thousand dollars maybe for
this drone.
Speaker 5: Well, they have these Kamikazi drones they developed out.
Speaker 2: They don't just drop it. The whole thing just runs
right intrough.
Speaker 5: It, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it's incredible. I bought a.
Speaker 5: Drone years ago when they first come out. They were
on the Home Shopping Club. I think I saw it,
and it costs me about twenty bucks.
Speaker 2: Isn't a what the hell for that price? Let me
go get it.
Speaker 5: And so I got it, brought it and got it delivered,
and we went out the back of the house. And
the only thing is what they didn't tell me is
that the battery lasted only three minutes. So I had
the thing up in the air, you know, all of
a sudden they crashed down and hit my neighbor's house,
which didn't work out very well. Okay, But just to
look at the technology today, I just imagine the battery
power that this thing has today, not only to be
up there flying for the cameras.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So the technology and the targeting system,
the radar.
Speaker 4: I remember a few years ago I ran into a
guy who had a pretty expensive one. It was probably
a four hundred dollars drone, and he could send it
up and set it so it would follow him because
he was carrying the base unit, and it would stay
exactly behind him like a body where he went get
in the car and drive and it would.
Speaker 2: Follow him like a body guy and would be.
Speaker 3: Up above him fourteen and the drone roof.
Speaker 2: They put a little machine gun on that, and you.
Speaker 4: You know, but you're just going to be careful that
you don't hit wires like electric wires or something, you know.
But he was because he was playing with it, and
I was impressed it was and it had a pretty
good camera on it. And yeah, you could sneaker. I mean,
it wasn't that loud. You can sneak around in the technology.
The technology is not scary expensive. That's the thing is
that The thing what the Ukrainians did was they made
it really cheap, yep, and something you can just you know,
came a and as he boom, you know, and you
can blow up a twenty million dollars tank for about
three grand. Yeah, so we could win, right, didn't. One
of the airports they went after, they put a bunch
of the drones in the back of a box truck.
Speaker 2: The truck, yeah, and they dropped the park.
Speaker 4: Next to the next to the airport and then at
the right time they opened the top and let them
all out. And they were only you know, they were
only like from you know, a thousand feet from the planes, right,
you couldn't shoot them down.
Speaker 2: They destroyed and they basically destrayed half of Russia's bombing.
Speaker 4: Capability bike and they just pulled up next to the
airport and opened the top of the truck.
Speaker 3: And how did they get into the airports? Like a
trojan horse.
Speaker 4: A trojan horse thing. They had him in the top
of the truck. Like you could open the truck and
look in the back and you didn't see because it
had a fake you had a fake ceiling and the
top could open.
Speaker 2: And it's the equivalent of someone doing it here in
the United States and blown up about ten B fifty
two bombers. I mean, that's what they did, right, these
two U twenty ninety five.
Speaker 3: They have these available on Amazon Jet.
Speaker 2: Engine propellers and you know, the kind of old school
but yeah, they they and they don't build them anymore.
And they took out five or six of them. Man,
that's you know, it's good. You know they're not going
to replace them anyway. Okay, who's doing drone food delivery?
I mean they're talking about coming drone another drink anyway?
So well, Brandy is here?
Speaker 5: Can I just add Mac? Were you talking about that?
There's another big issue that came out I think yesterday
regarding objects in the sky. I don't know if you
saw it. I think it was United airlines yet and
it was over and I think Nevada somewhere way out west,
and something hit the windshield and the actual glass broke in,
yes and the one of the pilots got glass all
over them, and they didn't know what it was at first.
Speaker 2: They first thought.
Speaker 5: It was a asteroid, you know, a small corner anyway.
In any ways, yesterday, I think it came out just
like this particular thing we're talking about, the owners of
a private company. Now I've said, oh, that was our
week balloons. We have weather balloons that the government uses
and they stay up for like four weeks at a time.
In one of our weather balloons some way or other.
Speaker 2: Went off the map, off the tether, and.
Speaker 5: The pilots didn't see it, which which in itself is amazing.
How kind you not in that big blue sky see
this enormous.
Speaker 3: Well pretty fast, because they should have those kinds of things,
should have light.
Speaker 2: It was daytime anyway, daytime.
Speaker 5: But the DM thing what they're saying is oh, yeah,
it's we'll fix it. It's our problem again. It's the
same thing as we talked about. It's something's funny going
on on the way they're explaining some of this.
Speaker 2: Stuff, but.
Speaker 5: It really is a pretty serious issue. The interesting thing
was that they talked about the windshield of that plane.
The windshields are like four layers and between there's like
a gas layer. But the way it's built, when this
thing hit it, the outside glass didn't break. The inside
glass broke and went in into the cabin where.
Speaker 2: The pilots were. The outer ones probably flexed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever it is to design that way for safety.
But unbelievable because they said, if that had ever split
that window up at twenty thousand or whatever, the air,
what would have happened.
Speaker 2: With the pressurization and you got the window.
Speaker 5: But I'm waiting to hear more about that. But all
of a sudden, he's coming back. Well, these companies all
of a sudden coming back. Oh that was us, you know,
and it's just a weather balloon. And because up there
but beyond me, how they could a pilot could not
see that, you know, being up there, they showed how
big these things are. You know, the balloon itself is
like forty feet and then there's this whole thing underneath you.
Speaker 2: You aren't going very fast though, you're going five an hour,
so things come up on.
Speaker 5: Your I mean, I'm I don't know enough about flight.
Speaker 2: But obviously see it.
Speaker 3: But why doesn't have any warning lights, like the red lights.
Speaker 4: Or something like that, you could pick it up or like, uh,
you know, too close to the ground. You know, there's
those proximity alarms they have on the jets, you know,
pull up, pull up your.
Speaker 5: Well, let's wait and see if this is really the
story behind the story. But that all of a sudden,
the announcement come out from this company, you know, just
like we're hearing on the other item we're just talking about. Yeah,
I don't know, I'm becoming very suspicious of this stuff.
Speaker 3: Well we apologize after the fact, and actually I just stupid.
Speaker 4: The other day a commercial jet had a dodge real
hard because they're almost her to be fifty two.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was about it. Yeah, that was about
a couple of months ago. The B fifty two is
at an air show and it's taking off and this plane, yeah,
I mean a close call for them is within a
quarter mile because once again both both the airplanes are
going very fast, right, and you get it, you know.
Speaker 4: The B fifty two is no small change. Oh yeah, yeah,
if you can't see your B fifty two coming at you.
You shouldn't be flying with the exhaust too. Anyway, Brandy
is laughing, so she might be a sleep too.
Speaker 3: She went to the bathroom. Somebody popped in for dinner
and she'd served them in this Now she's back.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Brandy, you're back after the technical problem, we're
going to clap for you again. Fishing case. I wasn't
picked up the last time. So you have a report
for us tonight, right.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it about.
Speaker 6: It's about reincarnation, pass lives perfect, all right, please, okay,
educate us.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 6: There is so much information about reincarnation. I wanted to
cite my sources. I use Psychology Today dot com, spirit
oft Thescripture dot com, Hindu America dot org, interviews with
Dolores Cannon, a book by Ian Stevenson called Children Who
Remember Previous Lives. I looked at episodes of The Ghost
Inside My Child TV show, and the information that was
published by the Institute for Noetic Sciences. But like I said,
there's so much information that I'm only going to talk
about a couple of things here because I just can't
talk about it all anyway.
Speaker 8: For people who don't know.
Speaker 6: Reincarnation is the belief in the after death transition of
a soul that's born into another body, and the belief
in re incarnation is incorporated into numerous religious belief systems
and is a central tenet to some religions, including Hinduism
and Buddhism. And in Hinduism, the belief is that the
soul is eternal and it's reborn after each death of
the body in an attempt for the soul to reach
a karmic perfection, and once it does that, then it's
freed from the reincarnation cycle. And in Buddhism, a soul
is reborn again in cycles based on the acts of
its previous life until it finally achieves enlightenment. And those
two kind of sound like essentially the same theory, but
there are different nuances to them that I'm not really
knowledgeable enough to interpret. But somehow they're different even though
they sound like they're the same. There are other religions
that incorporate aspects of reincarnation, which include gnosticism, cabalistic Judaism,
and there are Native American and African nation or tribal
specific beliefs about reincarnation. And then there are other real
obscure religious beliefs that incorporate reincarnation. And there is a
debate as to whether or not reincarnation is referenced in
Christianity and in the Bible, and a lot of it
comes down to interpretation, and in general, Christians don't believe
in reincarnation if they're translating the Bible literally. There is
a teacher named Joshua Tildman who has a blog, Spirit
of thescripture dot com, and he tries to look at
the hidden meanings behind literal Biblical interpretations, and he cites
some passages relating to the reincarnation of Elijah as On
the Baptist and he also cites some nac Gnostic gospels,
which were gospels that were removed at one time or
another from the Bible, and that some of those indicate
aspects of reincarnation. According to the Institute for Noetic Sciences,
Greek and Roman influenced beliefs in reincarnation were incorporated into
the early Christian tradition, but then they were banned in
the fifth century by the Fifth Ecumenical Council. And there
is a purported Gnostic text called the Pistis Sophia which
relates the post resurrection teachings of Jesus to his disciples
and discusses how a new body is chosen after death
for a soul which had sinned. But again that's a
gnostic text, so it was removed. There is a researcher
named doctor Ian Stevenson, and he was a psychiatrist at
the University of Virginia School of Medicine, and he became
an expert on the subject of reincarnation and past life
memories among children. He studied hundreds of cases of children
who reported extremely specific details of past lives, including details
that they could not know anything about because of their
age and their education level, and a lot of the
details were later verified through doctor Stevenson's research, including he
had discussions with relatives of the deceased to compare what
the kids were saying about the person that have been deceased.
Other researchers, including Professor Jim Tucker of the psychiatry and
Neurobehavioral science departments at the University of West Virginia, carried
on doctor Stevenson's work in Western countries and the United States,
and according to Psychology Today, there were nearly twenty five
hundred cases of these past life reports up from children
that had been studied by the two and they came
up with some statistics regarding their studies. Children typically began
talking about being in a past life between the ages
of two and four, and the majority of children experienced
a former life that ended unnaturally or due to a trauma, trauma,
or an incident. And in three quarters of the cases
of the previous personality, the person died at a relatively
young age, with a quarter of the deaths occurring before
the person was fifteen years old. And it was found
that on the average, the deaths of the previous personalities
occurred about four and a half years before the birth
of the children who remembered being in that past life.
Speaker 2: But that's an average, you know. Can I just add
something here? Isn't it odd that a lot of the
people think, you know, only spent their previous life a
shortened time on the earth. You know what I mean?
You don't It doesn't sound like people say I'm coming
back after I lived fifty years, right, Maybe I.
Speaker 3: Mean coming back as another human being or is it
some other entity?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: The the what I studied, the research that I did,
I guess only talked about coming back as another human
being in another human body to work out karma.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it working out karma or is it working
out craft that you did in the past.
Speaker 6: Well, kind of the same thing. That's why, you know,
I don't I don't really understand the different between those
two things, but there is one, and I guess it's
to learn more so that you can evolve spiritually.
Speaker 4: Right, learn learn other lessons because guy, like I said,
I have I have a guy I met fifty years
ago when we were kids, and out of the blue,
he told me that we were brothers. You know, we
were basically what he called cosmic brothers, and that we
traveled through time in lifetimes together and we always meet
up in the New life and we had at the time,
I was in my teens when I met him, and
he said, you and I, you know, you and I
have brothers. We've been doing this for forever and ever,
and we're going to keep doing it until we learn
whatever it is we're supposed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, until we get it right.
Speaker 4: And and honest to god, he believed it wholeheartedly, tony, right, Yeah,
and he still does.
Speaker 2: I'm going to very quickly just and quickly go to
club because I know you have a personal experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could take a whole show on this subject, Brandy.
I've done a lot of research through personal experience. But
one of the points you made, first of all, is
that normally a lot of the cases that really look
like they have something to them relate to people who
died either suddenly or and usually at a young age
before their normal you would consider the normal death age.
And the thing I studied a lot had to do
with the military, and because it's very calm, and many
many cases of people killed in action who are then reincarnated,
you know, and they died violently, and particularly after World
War Two, there was a big thing about this for
quite a few years after World War Two of people
born during that period. I think you said like within
four year years of the death of that person. And
just briefly I've told us in the show before, but
growing up in my neighborhood, one of my friends, his
little brother, we believe is proved to us. I think
that he was involved with a reincarnation. We had an
instance one time when we were watching television. It was
a day off of school, it was raining or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. And we had the.
Speaker 5: Only TV in this on the street, which didn't mean
a lot, but it was at that time. And so
I guess he had a babysitter's little brother because we
got out of school earlier. We were like ten years old,
nine years old, and his little brother was like five,
So we had a babysit them. See, brought him over
to my house and since they had the TV, we
used to in days like that, we would sit there
and watch, you know, the shows that came on and
they were primary early World War two movies with John
Wayne and all that stuff that was big at that time,
you know, and five ten years after, yeah, four o'clock movie, Yeah,
whatever it was, but it was in the in the
early afternoon fighting CBS. There was a ten of them.
So anyways, we had it. One day we were there
and there was two or three of us sitting around
watching one of the war movies along with his little brother.
He sat there with us, and all of a sudden
there was combat and a couple of the soldiers were shot,
you know, and to show them being shot and falling
down and he all of a sudden, but the brothers
saying no, no, no, no, no, He was like panicking.
He wouldn't take his eyes off the screen where normally
he was sitting with us. He didn't care about those
stupid movies. And he kept pointing to his arm. A
part of his arm was up a arm me me,
got me the or something like that. And anyways, it
so happened that he has a birthmark on that area.
He pointed to it, and he knew nothing about birthmarks.
And if you read about a lot of these situations
that happened that time where the person got injured or
shirt where they got shot, how they died normally is
when you come back as someone else, they have a
birthmark in that same area. Yeah, and so I won't
go much in here. But the whole thing is, he
just went nuts, and he kept saying no, no, no,
and he was pointing to his arm and his birthmark
and everything. And didn't think a lot of it at first.
But then a couple of days later, as brother was
telling us that he.
Speaker 2: Would wake his just started.
Speaker 5: This incident at my house started him going. He never
had an issue at that time. In four or five
years old, that's the age when this whole reincarnation thing
comes about. So Anyways, he started during the night. He
started screaming, waking up during the night and his brother,
my friend, they lived in the they slept in the
same room, and he couldn't deal with it. And finally,
you know, the mother used to have to take him
out of there. But he would wake up in the
middle of the night with crying about being shot things
like that, and it was really funny. I mean, it
happened all from that television show and it's not like
kids get up, they'd go to bed there. Nightmare is
about you know, monsters and stuff. So anyways, but his
mother was so upset after that.
Speaker 2: We used to tease him.
Speaker 5: I remember one day I would go out in the
be outside, I mean I was a young kid, and
he'd be out there. I'd tease him, you know about that,
and he ran on the house screaming and his mother
then read me the Riot Act. So I could never
do that anymore. But anyways, there's much more to the story,
but the bottom line is here's an instance where this
kid is four or five years old, never saw a
war movie before, never because they didn't even have a TV.
And the reaction that he had that day, I will
never forget. I never forgot. And I remember after that
to calm him down, I think we had to take
him in the kitchen. I had a box of Twinkies
or something, and you know, to shut him up. But
I never forgot that and after that. I've done a
lot of research over the years now about debts and
reincarnations from World Wars, from wars, you know, soldiers or
sales whatever who were killed in battle, and how there
was a lot of cases of incarnation that they could
the person that was the new person could explain things
about it that no one else, none of his. A
kid that was in the house four or five years old,
he was questioning the way the gun bully some of
them shoot me, shoot me now. It was just amazing.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're listening to Macmoney's Mill Tracks. I'll show
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We saw one inhaled here earlier in the show and
yours to dive phone. We had some technical problems, but
in theory they are worked out now. So let me
very quickly introduce the members of the posse, the one
who remained girls see of the very famous one one.
Speaker 3: Hello, Mac, how are you? How's everybody out there on
radio land? Does anybody say that anymore? Out in radio land?
Speaker 2: You just did? Hang on? Also with us is Alvin Laldough, producer, director,
et cetera.
Speaker 4: Hella Machel. Everybody also having a fun evening here tonight. Yeah, yeah,
a lot of behind the scene things, okay. Also in
the studio in the house with us, making a very
rare personal appearance is Willie Club Willie.
Speaker 2: Hey, Mac.
Speaker 5: Everyone, it's great to be here tonight. As you say,
live live. You know, it's a treat for me to
come here. It's only about thirty miles away. But because
of the traffic situation the time we broadcast.
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate it. It's tough.
Speaker 5: Oh I enjoyed this, but tonight having that steak and
cheese sub here.
Speaker 2: There you go. That made it well worthwhile. Yeah, so
you're getting these stopied experience as the kids saying, yeah, absolutely, okay.
Also with us joining us from either North Carolina or
South Carolina, I'm not sure, but Scott and Suzanne Ramsey,
we're going to clap for you now and then we'll
tell everybody why. So we met Scott and Susan. How
long ago was that we met down in Washington at
that Muffin conference Baltimore? Yeah? When, well when was that?
What year was that?
Speaker 8: I was just looking at something the other day and
I don't remember now, it was a couple of years back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in the before of the hurricanes. The
hurricane followed us right up the coach. Yeah, we got,
we got. I got out in the last train out
of DC, and then I think it's Hungary and Andrew.
I don't know, the one that wrecked New.
Speaker 7: Jersey twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: I think okay, Yeah, that sounds about right. And that
was the one and only time I gave a speech
in one of those things. It was just for me.
It was like a nightmare. But you guys were you
were pros at it. So anyway, so we met, we talked,
and the short version is that you were both very
interested in a UFO crash in the late forties in Astec,
New Mexico, and and that kind of brought you together. Susan,
you were on the radio, you interviewed Scott, you fell
in love and you've been married ever since, right, okay,
all right, so listen, hang on, there we go. So
congratulations on that. And then you you told me that
you know that story. So at the right around the
same time, we had just started this band called sky
Club and that Yestery just kind of made an impression
on me. So we recorded a song called the Aztec
Ufo Crash Love Song or something. Okay, right, and we're
finally putting out the album, but we wanted you on tonight.
You you of course know about the song, correct, You've
heard it, okay, and everyone seems to like it. So
should we play it now?
Speaker 7: They want to?
Speaker 2: I want to hear it, all right, and then we'll
talk about when we come back. So this is really
the love story between these two love birds, Scott and
Suzanne Ramsay.
Speaker 3: Get writing credits on the song or what.
Speaker 2: No, I'm only kidnap. So when we play the song
now as tack crash love song and I'll talk about
it later. So what do I push you a onney
right here? Okay, here we go astac ufo crash love
song ready.
Speaker 9: In this corner roll the west where totally tastes the.
Speaker 8: Best sixteen ye a scene.
Speaker 9: But we can't touch up.
Speaker 5: Homessages from Long High.
Speaker 7: Fifty the only the sky.
Speaker 9: Fell from heaven stone and in the desert floor.
Speaker 2: I'm met you stand there on that guy. It's so
very clear.
Speaker 9: I could see the milky way to your lips cut
in the way.
Speaker 8: You and Bye.
Speaker 2: Corfu spies.
Speaker 9: Lacking in the rain dis come down again.
Speaker 8: Soon by.
Speaker 2: Also by.
Speaker 9: Keep big Ant's bow shoots in our ways below. Nothing's
been the same since the radio spoken name.
Speaker 2: By two Gifts from the Bone.
Speaker 9: Are the stars in New Minor will be there at
the him what's my favorite special? Did you diversagree.
Speaker 2: That we were meant to be?
Speaker 9: You come Spies Black Marine Deside come out again, assume me.
Speaker 7: Home by.
Speaker 3: Oh so.
Speaker 8: Kep sis ball shoots him up an asby.
Speaker 7: You and Bye, I can.
Speaker 9: Spy in the pages on my book One look was
all it too?
Speaker 8: Suoming me on by.
Speaker 9: Oh shows his Bob shoots an out last.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. A nice song, I say so myself.
So the music by Cynthia Smith and we did the lyrics.
So and it's about you guys.
Speaker 3: So who's the singer.
Speaker 8: We've heard it before and absolutely love it and it's
so meaningful that you've done that.
Speaker 2: My Poolan is the singer, Chris Billius the producer, and
they play at the piano and I hate to say
about the late great Omini cast Andel playing the saxophone,
which is just, you know, beautiful. So yeah, so it's
a lot of fun putting it together. And I think
that you have an interesting story to tell. So tell
us about the books. How many books have you written
now about the ASTAC crash?
Speaker 8: Two?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're on our third one.
Speaker 8: We're finishing up our third one. This what's a little
bit different. As we wrote the first one, we wrote
everything we knew to that point, yep. The second one
everything that we could squeeze in. And as Mac knows
for sure, there's only so much you can put in
a book just the way it is. And we decided
that we would do a third book. And as we
are gently aging on, we wanted to have all of
our research someplace, and so we are putting the entire
chronological events sequence, all types of information that we've never
put in before, witnesses and things, and then followed up
with the documents at the end. But a lot of
stuff we've never done before, and it will be comprehensive,
will be self publishing because it just it's too hard
to have somebody, you know, they just don't value.
Speaker 2: These days or whatever, and this is it. So just
tell us real quick, just give us the thumbnail of
what happened down there.
Speaker 10: The whole Aztec Ufo recovery crash event started out actually
weeks before the vehicle was actually brought down, with sightings
over Farmington all the way to Los Alamos, through the
town of Cuba, which is south of Aztec, and on
March twenty fifth, nineteen forty eight, a huge flying saucer,
this was one hundred roughly one hundred feet across eighteen
feet tall, hit a mesa on the Archa Letta ranch
in Blanco, New Mexico, creamed off the mesa and showering
sparks for quite a distance, and then tracked due north
and landed on a mesa on Hart Canyon Road, which
is about eleven point two miles from downtown Aztec, and
by daylight a recovery team apparently had been notified. Oil
fill workers stumbled on at about five o'clock in the morning,
and by late after or late lunch, early afternoon, the
military showed up and a full recovery operation took place.
Speaker 7: Lasted about two weeks.
Speaker 2: How many witnesses were involved.
Speaker 7: Oh many.
Speaker 10: We were able to interview a few before they passed.
There were probably a dozen to fourteen people at the site.
I don't have my sheet not swiftly.
Speaker 7: Sorry.
Speaker 2: In the site it crashed like in an oil field,
right on Neil one in.
Speaker 7: An oil field.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it more like belly landed. There wasn't much damage
to the craft at all.
Speaker 2: And so these oil workers were the first on the site,
and didn't they look in the windows and could see
little beings in the windows and so on, little beings.
Speaker 8: Well, there was no damage done to the craft except
for one tiny hole, and that was in a portal
that was about the size of a quarter. One of
the oil foiled workers ran down to the truck and
grabbed a pole and started prodding inside and hit a
latch and the door came down, they were able to
go inside where they found two bodies and eventually there
were sixteen bodies that were in there. It was a
three layered aft. It was ninety nine foot it was
eighteen inches eighteen feet tall.
Speaker 2: Wow, so this is a big this is something that's
a sizeable size, right, I mean one hundred feet eighteen feet. Yeah,
And so all this is going on, people are stopping by.
There was a I think the minister involved, he saw it.
There were people incredible people saw it. And then the
military shows up. Then what and then the military shows up?
And I remember people back then reading the story saying
that they a helicopter landed a lot of people they
didn't know what a helicopter was. This is back in
nineteen forty eight, and so they think this is just
more of the same. And the military comes. They arrived
with some kind of big crane. They lift this thing
up and throw it away and that's it, man, That's
that's all you hear about it. And they really kind
of hushed the stuff.
Speaker 7: Really.
Speaker 8: Actually, there were scientists, the world class scientists that were
brought in with all different types of knowledge that specialties,
and they were there for two weeks and they took
as much of the craft apart and took chunks to
go in and work on. There was a nurse there
that was there working with them to make sure that
they didn't have any problems while on the craft, right
you know there, So yes, basically that's what happened. You know,
you don't hear anything more about it, but that the
scientists was a very big portion of it. And I
think that's what makes the Aztec crash very different than
most stories. One is you have the pre citing and
Scott didn't cover that because we're short on time. But
but there there was sightings and police reports for a
month before and police officers that followed the craft all
the way up to where it is in landing for hours,
all through the night. So we have the pre sightings,
we have the actual incident itself, we have the witnesses
at the location, we've got the scientists, and then we
have the cover up. And that's one of the things
that's been so heavy with our research is to prove
the cover up.
Speaker 2: And there's.
Speaker 8: Gosh, we have documentation from what CIA.
Speaker 7: FBI, the early Air Force. What do you feel well
documented within the government, what do you think they brought it.
Speaker 10: I think it immediately after leaving the Aztec area. And
by the way, I don't know if you're even aware
of this, Bac. I think we did this after we
met you. We spent a week and re enacted moving
the craft. Because it figured ninety nine point nine feet
in diameter. Those were huge sections.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And even in Scully's book he talks about they
took it apart and in four pieces, the aerofoil section
of the craft and the center section was basically the
main power source. Rumors were it went to Los Alamos,
roughly one hundred and sixty miles away. A year later,
after our second book came out, we were contacted by
a gentleman that worked for a fortune five hundred company
Eastman Kodak actually, and he worked in a division that
made instrumentation and he said he worked on it up
until nineteen fifty seven at Right Path.
Speaker 2: Wow. Really yeah, yeah, So where it.
Speaker 10: Went in between nobody knows where. Maybe it just went
from Los Alamos to Right Path. But when he left
the program, he said they still hadn't figured out the craft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it would take you know, it would be
I think it'd be hot. It be like a aveman
trying to figure out a calculator or something.
Speaker 3: But refresh my memory. What year are we talking about with?
Speaker 2: Nineteen So it's a year after the Cainathonald sightings, a
year after like flying sauces came into our vocabulary or whatever,
you know, and people were seeing a lot of stuff.
And then down in that area, that part of the country,
especially back then last almost was like a big place.
That's like where they brought all the captured Nazi secret
weapons and stuff like that. You know, so they were
into some heavy stuff down there. But you know, so
the thing is, in nineteen forty eight, this could happen
and then the army could you know, eventually come pick
it up and tow it away and that's it. These days,
you can never mentioned something like this happening these days,
I mean, come on, there'd be thousands of people down
there watching it. Where did it go? You never you
never get away with it these days.
Speaker 7: You just wouldn't you would, you know?
Speaker 2: So did you do you have any I mean, this
is something that's been a big patio lives. Do you
have any ideas where might have come from or where
they come from?
Speaker 10: M no idea how it flew the propulsion system, Uh,
where to come from?
Speaker 7: Where? Where is it today?
Speaker 2: It is today? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What happened to the bodies?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where's the bodies? Where are the bodies there?
Speaker 10: There was a rumor, and it was purely a rumor,
that they bodies were at first taken to Albuquerque and
then they that what was that clinic Loveless Clinic okay,
right in Albuquerque, which did a lot of a lot
of unique medical testing back in the.
Speaker 7: Day after World War Two. Yeah, yeah, and then after.
Speaker 10: They were done, apparently the rumor has that they went
to a lot of animals, but I have nothing to
back that up.
Speaker 7: There. The the.
Speaker 2: The extent of keeping us under wraps must have been monumental,
you know what I mean, as every person who was
involved had to you know, not talk about it. You know,
a lot of the Army people would have to be
you know, sworn to secrecy. And the fact that they
were working on it ten years later really tells you
something that you know, they just can't figure this out.
I don't know, you know. I mean the thing that
that always kind of mystifies me is that people will say, well,
they have these UFOs. They've they've back engineered them, they say,
and now here's the technology that we use these days
that we got back engineered from it. But I don't
see it. You know, where's all these wonder invents and
stuff like that that might come from something from a UFO.
Speaker 8: You know, there were some interesting things that they found
on the craft. They found how would we describe them?
Like what looked like CDs, flat screen flat screen ctvs? Yeah,
what glass that would be like reflective.
Speaker 7: Polarized sunglasses, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe, well that's where it came from. That'd
be interesting if you see these.
Speaker 8: Those were all things that, of course in nineteen forty
eight didn't exist, right, yes, right, yep, but were on
the craft yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I say, people back then didn't even know
how helicopter was.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: That's how you know, going back club, you seem like
you have something to say. Yeah, the interchapter had just been.
Speaker 11: Right, yeah, yeah, and so when they saw it, they
weren't sure which they were more amazed by the helicopter
or they were equally as shocking to them club.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, please.
Speaker 5: What I find interesting is talking about the structure of
this craft. We've always been under the impression that, you know,
these crafts be made out of materials that we would
know nothing about, they'd be super strong and all this.
But it sounds like they were able to take it
upot in different pieces, which sort of goes away from
what I would have thought a structure like that would
be impenetral exactly.
Speaker 8: There's some clarification on that.
Speaker 7: Frank Skelly addressed it back in nineteen fifty in his
book and what.
Speaker 10: Is pretty normal today back then was crazy and that
a lot of people poo pood that.
Speaker 7: Does anybody in that group have an airplane a angular
race car?
Speaker 3: Nope, Nope, not here.
Speaker 10: The a device called a pib pin p I B
pin is commonly used today here on the farm, our
tractor implements are held in by a pid pin.
Speaker 2: Yeh.
Speaker 10: Scully talked about how the scientists were able to go
down inside and find pins that they could pull out
and releasing parts of the craft.
Speaker 7: There weren't bolt screws anything like that.
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah, And they.
Speaker 10: Said the fit was so perfect once they're all pinned together,
you couldn't you couldn't even see.
Speaker 8: Thessal that was actually built with was indestructible. They couldn't
they couldn't kind of saw through it or anything, right, Yeah,
So it's kind of a combination of what you what
you said, and and these pins.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is when they you know, like launch
like for instance, the rocket that launched the first guys
to the moon, right whatever that rocket trip was. Yeah, yeah,
NEPA and the Space Show. Same thing is that when
they take off, what they do is they release pins.
You know, the pins like go out and that's what
you know, releases it from the Earth. So this whole
pin technology might we might owe to the aliens. So so,
but wouldn't you would agree that it would be a
very hard secret for us to be capped all these
years that no one would come out and you know, say,
here's the pro from the picture.
Speaker 10: Well it didn't even take a few years. Frank Scully
was contacted by some scientists in nineteen forty nine, a
year after the craft and I don't know what month,
but it was it was a very short time later,
and they told him that they had a story they
wanted him to bring. He was a pretty well known
journalist back. It turns out they kind of stretched the
truth a little bit. They said, the story is going
to come out anyway, but we want you to break
the story now. And that was the top scientists that
all came under the umbrella of doctor G in Frank
Scully's book and and historically speaking still today, and they
they we we did a lot. That was probably the
longest research part of our book. And we did a
lot of research. And I'm pretty certain we've identified all
they said there were, but one died they replaced him.
There were there were nine doctor G's at the initial
first year or two and these all these guys all
had amazing backgrounds and all of them basically went on
to form what we know today.
Speaker 7: Is Texas Instrument Oh is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, they talk about the calculator here.
Speaker 10: And probably using some technology that they thought up as
a result of what they learned about the craft.
Speaker 2: See, here's the thing is that who gets to who
gets access to alien technology? You know what I mean,
what do you have to do? What does Texas Instruments
have to do? You know, to go and you'll get
in on this stuff, right, you know, you know what
I mean. Club, You look like you have an answer.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm thinking well, I mentioned that, do you remember
the he worked for the military. He was a lieutenant
or he was some officer who wrote a book just
before he died. But about all this stuff they got
and how it was re engineered re engineered, Yeah, and
that a lot of they brought in different companies, like
you know, say a Texas Instruments, who are with it.
They didn't the Army of Military didn't know what to
do with any of this stuff.
Speaker 2: So they helped them kind of decipher it or whatever.
Speaker 5: Well, what they did is they gave them some of
that material. And that's how different things we have today.
Speaker 2: Like I said, the microwave, Yeah supposed what's the stuff
that sticks there? Velcrow?
Speaker 8: But I'm not sure. And I'm sorry we did not
understand anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, go ahead, but but I think, you know,
I think you have to be at the cream of
the crop of the military industrial complex to get in
on the uh you know, on the alien technology. There'd
be a lot to keep secret unless they don't tell
them where it came from.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of competition at that time. If
I can recall when they're reading this, that they wanted
to keep everything secret and they signed contracts with the government.
Speaker 2: And nondisclosure agreements and exactly.
Speaker 5: That's so if you know, that's what we were led
to believe from these military folks who were involved in
you know, the materials that were found in different crashes.
Speaker 2: Well, it is a great, yeah, a very interesting case.
It's it's like better than Roswell. I've read the books
and uh it's a lot more in depth than Roosewelt,
a lot more uh evidence, a lot more you know,
personal testimony and so on and so on. So when's
your next book coming out? Kids?
Speaker 7: We're hoping this fall.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the name of it?
Speaker 8: We're pretty close.
Speaker 2: Okay, what what's the name of it?
Speaker 8: It came the other one because it's different than the
other ones, Okay, came that Aztec, New Mexico. And then
the subtitle is revealed, the Recovery of a UFO. So
people don't know if you can see this.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is any Oh yeah, yeah,
that freaking thing. What it looked like yep, wow, yeah,
it looks like a huge flying saucer. I mean that's
what it. Yeah. So I was eighteen feet tall, eighteen
feet thick, and ninety nine feet long. Right, it's like
a destroyer. Yeah, that's a big you know what I mean.
It's like a frigate almost nine feet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like about the distance from home plate to
second base.
Speaker 2: Oh there you are a small a small destroyer.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, listen to thank you kids. We're going to clap
for you. Oh, probably you're working also. This interesting.
Speaker 8: I have enjoyed you so much, and our time with
you in Baltimore was very special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a lot of fun there.
Speaker 8: When you reached out to me about this show, I
was looking to see where we could get the music
so that we could include that in the book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people listen to it.
Speaker 8: Is there a way that that's possible?
Speaker 2: Well, the album is coming out very soon, within the
next two or three months on Spotify. And but I
will send you a copy of the song and you
can do with it what you want. How was that?
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 7: That is so nice.
Speaker 8: And again, thank you for honoring us. Really thats a lot,
you know.
Speaker 2: I think you have a really fun kind of romantic meeting.
Always good to meet cute, right, we love romance, romance,
We have every romantic here. So we love love, We
love love, so Thank you Scott and Suzanne. We appreciate it.
And so we're going to end the show. So hang around.
We're going to end the show tonight, right uh well right, yeah, yeah,
time is good. Yeah, we'll fill in with music. Okay,
all right, So I want to I want to thank
everyone for joining us tonight. Let me thank once again
Scott and Suzanne A. Ramsey for joining us. Thank you.
We appreciate that the az tech crash. Just go just
a google as techfo crash and you'll see their books
and so on. Also, thank you Brandy who had to
drop out halfway through the show. Thank you club for
joining us. Wow.
Speaker 5: Club, Well, I'll tell you this is quite an experience
to be here on the ground. Yeah yeah, lot of fun.
Too bad we had to run into some gremlins.
Speaker 2: I guess that's okay, that's the double. I look out
over at him and he's like the Pope. Right, he's
like something around his neck, and yeah, he looked like
the Pope. I'm glad you see a religious pot. Yeah
we do, me too.
Speaker 3: We see the goodness of everybody.
Speaker 4: Real quick. You were talking about the Pope. I was
reading a thing the other day. Well, I guess he's
a big mess. I'm not a Mets fan.
Speaker 2: What is he?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs? Cubs. So he was doing his weekly drive
through the square.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah and the popemobile and some guy yelled
out at him about the Mets, Mets, and he turned
to the guy. I broke character, and he went but
they lost, right, So they said that that by itself
an American pope, Yes, and who knows who? They said,
he's been a World Series game when Chicago was in
the world. He said, he's the first pope that has
ever been to a Walmart. Really wow, And they said,
they said they can basically guarantee that he personally has
eaten more hot dogs than every pope before him. You're
bind okay, because he ate he ate one at the
ball game. So they said, it's like one for one.
You take the storied presence of the pope and you
make an American.
Speaker 2: This is what you get. Well, yeah, which is kind
of it makes some human you know. Yeah, it's funny
that the pope would actually know who the Mets were exactly.
Speaker 4: And he breaks out of blessing people to turn to
the guy and yell at him. But the Mets lost.
You know they lost, didn't they you know, and lose. Yeah,
imagine being told that you're a loser by the Hope
your team is how men?
Speaker 7: You go on?
Speaker 4: The Mets must now be like shamed with the whole
Catholic paints us off the Hope against us now. So anyway, wow, okay,
so well, thank you, thank you Pope. Club what would
they call him, club the third or something? Club the
fifteenth left the fifteenth?
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, thank you club, Thank you al
for joining us now and figuring out all the problems.
Thank you one one for joining us one. You're welcome,
glad to be here. Of course, out there they have
quite party outside They have a twin lobster tonight here
lobsters for twenty five bucks, which is not bad. I
can't even but that's pretty good.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: That'll make any buddy holler, which is what they're doing
those birthday parties and everything. So we should go join them.
So in the birthday party, the plugs would be this.
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days because our veterans are not doing too good these days,
if you're just kind of follow the news. They're losing
a lot of their benefits. They're losing a lot of
the clinics and hospitals that they were able to go
to before. They've laid off eighty thousand people who work
for the Veterans Administration. And you know that there's no
way that they can get the care that they need
if they're missing almost like one third of the people
who used to work for them.
Speaker 2: So please just kind of be aware of what's happening
to our veterans. These are people that we should honor.
We said many, many times, John McCain was not a loser.
He was a veteran. He's a wa hero. You don't
make fun of people like that, you look up to them.
It's very important that we do that these days, because
you have that fion that stuff is slipping away from
us and that's not good. So but on that note
to hear us next time. This is Mac from the
entire crew saying be safe, be happy, and bye bye.