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Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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the world every month. Most of them can be explained

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as natural phenomenon, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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abductions and remote viewing, Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the

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Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high, and

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voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are

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revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So

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join Mac and the Game one one Switchy club Susan

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Kay and Uncle Lao Brandy x an Aged X as

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they delve into the ultimate mysteries of time and space.

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This is Mac Maloney's Military X.

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Speaker 2: Files, and now here's Mac Wow. Here we are again. Well,

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good evening everyone, and welcome to Macloney's militark Saw shown

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here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. I'm always two

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beats off there Jujo broadcasting live from the Stopped Galley Restaurant,

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fifty five Water Stret Louis Pote, Massachusetts. Great seafood, great hamburgers,

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and a great steak and cheese Sammy. I'm watching one

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of them being consumed right in front of me and

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also apparel the Youngion rings.

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Speaker 3: To die for now I'm starving.

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Speaker 2: I know me too. Anyway, we have quite a shoe

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for you tonight, and let me introduce the members of

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the Possum Girls. Yes, the vibe you felt all week,

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it's coming from the right source. Yeah, baby, I'll sit

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yourself down. Is that fanning yourself? Get your big box

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and clean. It's your big box of wipes, Squeegey and

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you Lou because he's here, the very famous one one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, baby, you're gonna need a lot of those tonight,

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that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, too.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you. I haven't been here live in

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a while, but that's another story. You are, yep, U

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s here now and I'm polishing up my vibe. I'm

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going to set it to eleven and you're going to

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be in vibe heaven.

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Speaker 2: So right, I like that.

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Speaker 3: Going to be aware first one of my flag that

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tape right all right? Okay, but you don't even know

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what that means.

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Speaker 2: Flag that yeah, you'd put when they used to actually

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do tape, they put them a piece of tape in

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there so you would know where the thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the real to real tape that things going around

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and something cools happening. You get these strips of paper,

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you throw it in there.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm smart. I can do stuff.

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Speaker 3: You number, you number the pieces of paper and then

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you get a que sheet. Right, yeah, yeah, you say

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cut number one Red Sox Home Runners.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's what I used to do. Did you get

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my Freido impression there?

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Speaker 3: I'm smart?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? It was good, okay. So also joining us later

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on hopefully we'll be a corresponding down there and my

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sister's tank Top West Virginia, which played Steve Wad. He'll

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be here with us hopefully, but here in the studio

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with us, well hang on, let me just uh he's

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already pouting. So also with us as our engineer producer,

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Getaway driver, B Killer, Uncle Ale, the Kiddies, Pal, Alan Naldough,

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Hey Mac, everybody.

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Speaker 3: He said, the B Killer he's a bee whisperer forty

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thousand wind up dead is well sometimes you know it

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helps his he just steps in it and it's you know, yeah,

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you know, you can't control nature sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of killing that many, I happened to catch part

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of an interview with some World War two Vetuy a

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Congressional Mail of honor guy, and they were just kind

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of elderly now, and he were chatting with him and

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he said, yeah, I probably killed ten thousand, Yeah, communists,

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you know, North Koreans. And they go they how'd you

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do it? He goes, well, you know, a gun, hand grenade.

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And I was also a forward spotter, so I called

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him the strikes and said, I would you know he

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goes killed.

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Speaker 2: He's taking credit for those.

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Speaker 4: Well, he said, you know, I'm the one who's in

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the line of fire doing it well. And he said

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he holds the record to this day of most confirmed

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hand to hand combat kills in the service.

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Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, so this guy's bad. I mean he's well, yeah,

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you're obviously bad.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to mess with it. I believe he

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might be. I mean, I don't know how old the

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interview was, but it was interesting just hearing him saying

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he was carrying a guy back down the hill and

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he needed more ammo. So he went down the hill

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to his buddies, got more, AMO, came back up, kept

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killing people, picked the guy up, brought him back down,

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got more AMO, went back up and did it like

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four times. Yeah, yeah, and he was shot three times. Yeah,

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and he just kept on going. And he said, I

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didn't even go to the doctor to get one of

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the wounds treated. I just wrapped it up myself. And

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because only three of them, that's okay, bullets, yep, just amazing. Yeah, yeah,

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somehow people there are people who do that. He said

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he ran up the hill with there were thirty six

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of them going up the hill, and he was leading them.

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one standing really, and then he went into the trench

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with them and started killing them.

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Speaker 2: The Korean War talk about was that of a fought

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right and they've forgotten. But I mean a complete waste

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of time, energy, lives, money, because it's settled nothing. It

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literally settled nothing. They were They went back to where

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they were before. So what was the point? Okay, Vietnam

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really kind of the same thing in a way. You know, nothing,

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there was nothing we lost, There was nothing accomplished.

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Speaker 3: The Korean thing, it's a ceasefire now, right.

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Speaker 2: It's not even they've never even settled the law.

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Speaker 3: Yeah to pause.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll tell you North Korea, man, you see

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those YouTube videos? Are you going? And life in North Korea.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, when the defectors come here in their military, yeah, yes,

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and they bring them in, they show them like restaurants

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or to bring them supermarkets, and they're like, this is

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this is a setup? Yeah, oh yeah, you only brought

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us here because it's propaganda or something. You pick a place,

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we'll get down the highway, You tell us way to

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get off, and when they can't believe, you tell us

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what story to go in.

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Speaker 2: See, that's just how brainwashing works, you know, they make

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them think from kids on that. You know, they got

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good in Moth Korea and the rest of the world

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is you don't going to help. I don't know how

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they get well and away they're right, but you know,

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they're just they're just so it's a police state to

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the empty grae. You know.

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Speaker 4: Well, one of those one of those guys that the

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uh it defected here, they showed him a film of

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I think it was an A ten warthog coming in

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and just you know, the big cannon in the nose

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and it was just decimating an area the size of

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a football field. Yeah yeah, I think it was putting

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out a bullet out of how many, how big, and

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the guys watching it and he goes, that's real. That

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really you guys have that? Yeah yeah, and the government

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let you see it. Yeah well yeah right you can

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as they don't even have enough gasoline too to train

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Speaker 2: Take the planes up. I'll tell you that guy runs it,

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Kim Yung yun okay, and his father and the father

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before him, they were all real perverts, man, and some

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of the stuff that goes on at that place. If

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you believe these YouTube videos, he's like Epstein. How do

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you say Epstein and Korean? Anyway, let's move on. We

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have a special guest live.

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Speaker 3: We have had fact checkers working on it right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll way back to here from there. We have

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a special guest here live in the studio. He's with

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us every week. But he uh, just came in like

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the pope. He's snuck it on us, snuck in on us. Okay,

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so we're gonna clap. I thought Willy Club in the house.

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you this is a real treat, you know,

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to be here right at Sencom with you guys, and

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I'm watching it every week on on zoom. But to

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see the real thing, to look and.

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Speaker 2: Touch the well oiled, the well oiled machine that where

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we are. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: Plus I'm a firm believer that you know, you have

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to get out with the little people once in a while.

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Speaker 2: So this is my opportunity that this is your penance

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for once a year. Once a year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah maybe, but this steak and cheese i'm having, though,

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I might have to be here more offer.

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Speaker 2: That's great, good, I'm telling you, man, that's the best.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you leave behind, I'll eat.

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Speaker 2: It, okay, there'd be nothing left. And the fries, I

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love those, your fries. I'm enough you're a big fan

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of those.

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Speaker 5: But no, I my I have an allergy to a

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lot of fried foods my stomach. So the fries will

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be given to you guys. Oh well, I'm not giving

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any part of.

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Speaker 4: My the next time, audit with onion rings because if

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we get the fries, we'll get the onion right here.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, they're really good, so I asked Dave once

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David is the owner and the bottender here tonight. What

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makes it so good? Right? He said? You just get

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the best steak. That's that's how you do it, you know,

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the cook here we should have him on the shows sometimes.

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a long time. And the food biz right, and he

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knows how to do it, you know. And the food

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is good here. But that that that steak and cheese, man,

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I get it on my birthday and around Christmas and

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that's it, but very good.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's the same thing with their seafood. They buy

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their seafood from the seafood Press up the street, yeah yeah,

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which is fresh. It's like one of the best seafood

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markets in the way, in the area. But when you

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see David's David's right, when you see that truck pulling

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out of restaurants and you know, during the day, you know, well,

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I can buy seafood there because they buy it all fresh.

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It's not frozen, it's not yeah right, it's the real deal,

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Speaker 5: But getting back the steak and cheese, I go back.

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I remember when steak and cheese subs firust really took off,

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you yeah, yeah, you know back in the seventies when

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they started, and boy I got addicted to them and

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I became a connoisseur, believe it or not. I used

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to go to all the different sub shops around if

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the steak and cheese to test them, and I had

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one that was my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But if we import steak and cheese from Midwest, yeah,

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I think it came from the Midwest or something.

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Speaker 5: But I'll tell you to me. The thing about the

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steak and cheese is much is the cheese itself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh, that cheese has a lot to do

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with it. And you know the Philly steak, you know,

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the whole Philly steak thing. I guess that's where it

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came from. Yeah. Of course, when you take the Amtrak

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from from Florida and back, which I've done a number

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of times. Okay, they stopped. You might remember the Seinfeld

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episode where they stop in Philly and you sit there

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for fifteen minutes and they tell you, okay, listen, you

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know the famous steak and cheese is right upstairs. Go

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up there. But you got fifteen minutes they get back

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on the train, okay. And what it is is why

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it's different from everywhere else around here. Hi, Brandy, is

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you know what they put the cheese on? Done in Philly?

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They put that cheese whiz on. Yeah, it doesn't sound right. No,

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it happened.

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Speaker 5: One of the places I went to when I was

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first going around, they had the cheese with cheese.

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Speaker 2: Was I got to tie you. I'd like that. It

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was good because it has a lot of really powerful

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flavor and whatever.

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Speaker 6: Che it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, if you have. I justn't know.

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Speaker 5: Old time, the old time radio, these shows that go

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when that cheese was first. I think it's craft and

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they talk about how it's real, they real cheese and

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don't be afraid to get it and all that.

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Speaker 2: But they have to tell you that then there's that's

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a red flag.

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Speaker 3: It's like a liquefied version of what comes with the

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macaroni and cheese.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly what it is. Yeah, they squeeze it

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out just like you do ketchup or whatever. I think

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it's easier for them to make the sub that way.

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It's the true absolutely and you know.

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Speaker 5: But but anyways, you know, getting back to the steak

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and cheese, and like I say, I'm a connoisseur.

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right now with a big with a big.

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Speaker 5: Say, you know, I couldn't wait to get right there,

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oh good, But I couldn't wait to get the Philly

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to try that because everyone said, you know, this isn't

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a new thing, you know, it's just new for Massachusetts. Yeah,

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says that they came from Philly. Okay, so I remember

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the first time we get out in Philly that went

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they had one. They had everything in it, onions.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm a plane Jane, A nice steak and cheese.

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Nothing else in it is, no onions, nothing. And when

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I that's what they said to me, They said, so

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what do you want? What you runners or do you

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want them? I said I don't want anything, and they

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looked at me like I had three heads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah. They almost didn't want to give it.

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Speaker 3: To button under the counter.

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Speaker 5: So that was the first and only time that when

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I go to Philly that I ever had a cheese steak.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good. So so when you when you're on

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the Amtrak train, so it stops and then you know

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the next thing you know, there's ten people in your

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car and they get the subs right, and all you

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can do is smell it. It's just, oh my goodness,

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it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: But what time you're in the dining car? Is that

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what's happening?

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Speaker 2: No? No, you're just right beside you man eating it. Yeah,

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thanks for nothing. I'll tell you a funny story, real quick,

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real story. So I went, I had to stay down

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there for extended period of time. So I went to

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right and a renting. And it's a real old fashioned

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Jewish deli, let's put it that weight. But it's in

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a kind of touristy edge of a touristy place. The

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guy comes in before me and he goes, yeah, give

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me a pastrami, green pastrami on rye okay, which is

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what they do a million times a day. And I said,

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what do you want? He goes mustard and mayonnaise, and

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the guy goes no, No, He goes, what do you

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mean No? He says, we're not going to put mayonnaise

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on it? No. He says, no, I just want no,

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we don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Next get out of my store? Is that a Seinfeld?

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say that get out of

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my store and felt upsode right, yeah, assume Nazi. Well listen,

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let's lighten up the mood. And she's joining us hot

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tonight in more than night, more ways than one. Brandy

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is with us. Let's clap for her because it so

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glad to see her. Brandy, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I am great?

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Speaker 3: Has everybody there excellent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? We're good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah good, I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: Can we comment on the hairdoo now? Or should we wait?

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Speaker 6: If you would like it changed, you should comment now.

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Speaker 3: I'll let you go first.

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Speaker 2: We changed, Okay, I think it's very glamorous, very kind

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of Audrey Pepper and Ish would.

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Speaker 3: This The hair is off to one side. What do

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you call that style? Brandy off?

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just up. It's rainy. It's so rainy today,

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it's just up. So it's just there.

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Speaker 2: We used to style devil make care, definitely care really.

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Speaker 3: Back in the fifties.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's not go back that far. Well, anyway, you

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look very glamorous tonight if you don't mind us saying,

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okay things, there's not a law suit at the end

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of that. Yeah, nice show.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So we're a lawsuit or a tericely worded letter

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from her letter significant other.

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Speaker 6: No compliments are always accepted, really, all right, well maybe

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you shouldn't.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. We live in a world, and I think

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the last ten years have proven that in a world

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of we make a compliment to somebody in public, it's

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considered creepy.

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Speaker 5: I know, but I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't understand that. Well nobody, You know, people are

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so rude to each other. You would think people would

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be so accepting of any kind of compliment that somebody

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would give, especially after.

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Speaker 3: The stupid pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 6: I feel bad when people have to apologize before they

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give me a compliment. You know, they're like, don't take

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this the wrong way, or I don't want to sound creepy,

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but you know, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm

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so sorry that you have to couch your comment right.

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Speaker 2: The line the line you don't want to say in

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the bar is I don't want to sign so creepy.

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But you're adorable anyway. Wow. Okay, So we're waiting switch

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at some point, and we just wanted to talk a

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little bit about I sent you guys right the the

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the link for oh the drones, right yep, all right,

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So now I don't think so a year ago. A

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year ago, all right at this time, because we just

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passed our year anniversary here at the stop of Galley Broadcasting,

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there was a huge, huge flap, as they call it,

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where everyone in New Jersey was seeing drones, Okay, seen everywhere,

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and I mean like a lot of people saw them.

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And when they weld see them, they would be like

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twenty of them. Okay, they're doing formations, they're doing this,

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they're doing that. People took videos of them. Yeah. They

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asked the FAA, which should know about these things. They

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didn't know anything about it. The military said they didn't

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know anything about it. But these things basically went over

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the entire state of New Jersey because they saw them

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in New Jersey of all places. Right. So anyway, it

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came out a week ago this week that what it

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really was was some company who's working for the military

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and testing a new kind of drone okay, literally blanketed

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New Jersey with their drones just to see how they worked.

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And the military knew about it. Obviously, this company knew

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about it. They kept everybody in the dock. But that's

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what it was. Now here's the strange thing. It snotted

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down in New Jersey, but it came all the way

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up here. I can remember the news reports on the

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local Boston channels here people seeing drunes. We had a

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guy in here al twice, right, but we would see

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them in Ipswich. And he was like a pilot or something.

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He says, I know that just between a plane and

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the drone. These were not planes. These were something else.

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So they came all the way up here. Whatever they

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were doing, they basically said, we were testing a new

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type of drone. The military said it was okay, it

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was obviously covert, but now we can reveal it. So

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that's that's what happened. That's what I got from that story. Anyway,

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what do you say.

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Speaker 5: Club, Yeah, the only thing that bothers me is that,

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you know, at that time, the military and the government itself.

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Speaker 2: Was quiet, right, It's like they had no idea what

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was going on.

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Speaker 5: We saying, you got to be kidney. With all this technology,

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you can't you can't determine what that is. Then all

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of a sudden, you know, people would say, well why

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aren't you you know, if they're up there, someone's seeing things,

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why don't you shoot them down? And then of course

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the comment was which was you know, it had to say,

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is well, if we do it, could you know, land

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all over someone's hopes or whatever. But the old thing

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just doesn't smell right, you know. But you know that's

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what they're telling us about.

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Speaker 2: They knew it. They knew it, and the reason they

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said they didn't shoot them down was that they couldn't

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identify any safety related issues, so we let them alone.

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I mean, that was the spin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they blow it up over someone's house, over

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a beach where people are.

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Speaker 3: I understand, they're not hurting anybody, look at it. It's

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just flying around, no worries.

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Speaker 5: But I mean people were getting nervous. They were saying,

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well maybe the Chinese, remember the Chinese with those balloons

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and everything at that time. So all of a sudden,

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now this pops up and nobody wants to talk about it.

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You know, just to me, it didn't make a lot

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of sense.

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Speaker 4: See, all that they had to do to shut everybody

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up was to say it was a drone company that

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was doing work like for its super Bowl. For Super

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Bowl as you know, when they're all in formation and

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they're trying to keep them all together over a large

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area rehearsing. Yeah, you know, they're checking out the software

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on a light show. Yeah, and who would know the difference.

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And he was, Okay, we're stupid enough, we believe it.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they I don't think they think

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like that in a way, you know what I mean.

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I think that they think, all right, listen, the first

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thing we do is deny it. Deny it, okay, And

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it's like, oh, there's no safety there, the issues, so

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we're not going to pay attention to it. That's they

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say about UFOs too, And and they didn't and then

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he yield later the truth comes out. I mean, that's

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that's like kind of the playbook in a way, you know.

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But so now they have drones that can blanket an

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entire state, okay, in coordination. So think of that for

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a second.

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Speaker 3: I do think of it. It keeps you up at

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Speaker 2: But I mean, really, I mean when you see the

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like the displays of the Super Bowl at these fireworks

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displays with the Olympics and everything's incredible. It's thousands of them,

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thousands of them up there, you know, doing like carricages,

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and and they're not hitting each.

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Speaker 3: Other, you know, they're all It's amazing. The choreography is

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just just.

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Speaker 2: Think of one one whoops. We have a lot of

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dunk on the ground, but they never go whoops. Yeah

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they haven't yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd like to see the electronic mechanism that where

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you can control one hundred drones or however many and.

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Speaker 4: Keep It's got to be something that keeps them. They

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have to be aware of themselves and where the other

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ones are so they don't get it within.

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Speaker 2: Their space, right, But it's got to be a hell

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of approchate.

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Speaker 3: I know how electric electric lighting at rock shows is

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operated by the dimmers and the control panel for that

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you set up as what they call is a scene.

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Push the button for that scene is going to play it,

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play it and allow each instrument to do its part

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in the final visual outcome. I can see that with drones.

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I guess the technology. I'd love to be in front

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of the the guy who orchestrates.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but I wonder how fast.

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Speaker 3: Isn't there a show a Pink Floyd's show where they

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play music and then they have a light show that

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goes with the oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeahue does that? But I wonder if

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they do it up your pre programmed in in an

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office or in a studio and then bring it out

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and has its own separate idea. And not to get

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too deeply, they must have like kind of radar on

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them to keep themselves away from each other.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be self aware enough.

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Speaker 5: To Well, have you heard the recent stuff about the drones.

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We're buying a drone technology now from Ukraine? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:36,519
they've you know, obviously they're not getting enough support. So

471
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,240
what they've done is they said, well, we're going to

472
00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:40,640
have to go ahead and build our own stuff. So

473
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,039
they've really developed quite a bit of technology now and

474
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:49,480
train drone warfare. So I just read yesterday that part

475
00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:51,640
of the agreement with them is that they're going to

476
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,160
give us sell us obviously some of that drone technology.

477
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,799
Imagine a company like a country like Ukraine, you think

478
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,319
you would be so far ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

479
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960
they had to do it by necessity, right, Yeah, that's

480
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:05,559
the thing.

481
00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: Maybe there's some tomahawks in the mix.

482
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're hoping for.

483
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,799
Speaker 5: I'm not going to do that, but anyways, they I'd

484
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:13,119
love to see this technology they have, but I mean

485
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:16,000
It's amazing what they've been able to do sending these

486
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:20,400
drones over into Moscow. Yeah yeah, yeah, without getting you know,

487
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,799
shot down, shot down. So I think that has a

488
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,920
lot to do with it. The technology is just moving

489
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,799
so fast now, but unfortunately we're not the ones that really.

490
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: Are driving it. Yeah.

491
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Speaker 4: From what I heard, they started up by taking drones

492
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,319
we sent them and modify them exactly. They worked through that, right,

493
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,240
they made them better or more suited to what they needed.

494
00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they have drones that would I've seen on

495
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,920
YouTube and I know you only see in one side

496
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,559
of the story, but a drone literally will spot a tank.

497
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,599
But Donna, it's got like this. It looks like a

498
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:58,160
little bomb, literally a little bomb and put it right

499
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200
down through the turret and boom gone. I mean it

500
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,599
probably cost them three or four thousand dollars maybe for

501
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,319
this drone.

502
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: Well, they have these Kamikazi drones they developed out.

503
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,319
Speaker 2: They don't just drop it. The whole thing just runs

504
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,200
right intrough.

505
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 5: It, you know.

506
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,759
Speaker 2: And so it's incredible. I bought a.

507
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,599
Speaker 5: Drone years ago when they first come out. They were

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,720
on the Home Shopping Club. I think I saw it,

509
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:26,680
and it costs me about twenty bucks.

510
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:28,839
Speaker 2: Isn't a what the hell for that price? Let me

511
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,359
go get it.

512
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 5: And so I got it, brought it and got it delivered,

513
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,640
and we went out the back of the house. And

514
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,920
the only thing is what they didn't tell me is

515
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,519
that the battery lasted only three minutes. So I had

516
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,640
the thing up in the air, you know, all of

517
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,920
a sudden they crashed down and hit my neighbor's house,

518
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,920
which didn't work out very well. Okay, But just to

519
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,000
look at the technology today, I just imagine the battery

520
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,000
power that this thing has today, not only to be

521
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:02,240
up there flying for the cameras.

522
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So the technology and the targeting system,

523
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:06,880
the radar.

524
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: I remember a few years ago I ran into a

525
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240
guy who had a pretty expensive one. It was probably

526
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,880
a four hundred dollars drone, and he could send it

527
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,039
up and set it so it would follow him because

528
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,279
he was carrying the base unit, and it would stay

529
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,240
exactly behind him like a body where he went get

530
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,400
in the car and drive and it would.

531
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: Follow him like a body guy and would be.

532
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,599
Speaker 3: Up above him fourteen and the drone roof.

533
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: They put a little machine gun on that, and you.

534
00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 4: You know, but you're just going to be careful that

535
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,799
you don't hit wires like electric wires or something, you know.

536
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,319
But he was because he was playing with it, and

537
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240
I was impressed it was and it had a pretty

538
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,359
good camera on it. And yeah, you could sneaker. I mean,

539
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,079
it wasn't that loud. You can sneak around in the technology.

540
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,799
The technology is not scary expensive. That's the thing is

541
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:56,920
that The thing what the Ukrainians did was they made

542
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,519
it really cheap, yep, and something you can just you know,

543
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:01,599
came a and as he boom, you know, and you

544
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,640
can blow up a twenty million dollars tank for about

545
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119
three grand. Yeah, so we could win, right, didn't. One

546
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,039
of the airports they went after, they put a bunch

547
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:11,599
of the drones in the back of a box truck.

548
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: The truck, yeah, and they dropped the park.

549
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: Next to the next to the airport and then at

550
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,839
the right time they opened the top and let them

551
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:20,119
all out. And they were only you know, they were

552
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,039
only like from you know, a thousand feet from the planes, right,

553
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,240
you couldn't shoot them down.

554
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: They destroyed and they basically destrayed half of Russia's bombing.

555
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: Capability bike and they just pulled up next to the

556
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,880
airport and opened the top of the truck.

557
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,559
Speaker 3: And how did they get into the airports? Like a

558
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:36,440
trojan horse.

559
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: A trojan horse thing. They had him in the top

560
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720
of the truck. Like you could open the truck and

561
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:43,640
look in the back and you didn't see because it

562
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,200
had a fake you had a fake ceiling and the

563
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:47,920
top could open.

564
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,839
Speaker 2: And it's the equivalent of someone doing it here in

565
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160
the United States and blown up about ten B fifty

566
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,559
two bombers. I mean, that's what they did, right, these

567
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,000
two U twenty ninety five.

568
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: They have these available on Amazon Jet.

569
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,839
Speaker 2: Engine propellers and you know, the kind of old school

570
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,319
but yeah, they they and they don't build them anymore.

571
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,599
And they took out five or six of them. Man,

572
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,599
that's you know, it's good. You know they're not going

573
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,279
to replace them anyway. Okay, who's doing drone food delivery?

574
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,440
I mean they're talking about coming drone another drink anyway?

575
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:24,119
So well, Brandy is here?

576
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 5: Can I just add Mac? Were you talking about that?

577
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,720
There's another big issue that came out I think yesterday

578
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
regarding objects in the sky. I don't know if you

579
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,359
saw it. I think it was United airlines yet and

580
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:40,839
it was over and I think Nevada somewhere way out west,

581
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:46,720
and something hit the windshield and the actual glass broke in,

582
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,440
yes and the one of the pilots got glass all

583
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,599
over them, and they didn't know what it was at first.

584
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,279
Speaker 2: They first thought.

585
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,799
Speaker 5: It was a asteroid, you know, a small corner anyway.

586
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960
In any ways, yesterday, I think it came out just

587
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,000
like this particular thing we're talking about, the owners of

588
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:14,319
a private company. Now I've said, oh, that was our

589
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,839
week balloons. We have weather balloons that the government uses

590
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,000
and they stay up for like four weeks at a time.

591
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,880
In one of our weather balloons some way or other.

592
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Went off the map, off the tether, and.

593
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,359
Speaker 5: The pilots didn't see it, which which in itself is amazing.

594
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,000
How kind you not in that big blue sky see

595
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,359
this enormous.

596
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: Well pretty fast, because they should have those kinds of things,

597
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,240
should have light.

598
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: It was daytime anyway, daytime.

599
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 5: But the DM thing what they're saying is oh, yeah,

600
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,079
it's we'll fix it. It's our problem again. It's the

601
00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,839
same thing as we talked about. It's something's funny going

602
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,359
on on the way they're explaining some of this.

603
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Stuff, but.

604
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,039
Speaker 5: It really is a pretty serious issue. The interesting thing

605
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640
was that they talked about the windshield of that plane.

606
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,359
The windshields are like four layers and between there's like

607
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,400
a gas layer. But the way it's built, when this

608
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,960
thing hit it, the outside glass didn't break. The inside

609
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,920
glass broke and went in into the cabin where.

610
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: The pilots were. The outer ones probably flexed.

611
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, whatever it is to design that way for safety.

612
00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:40,759
But unbelievable because they said, if that had ever split

613
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:43,920
that window up at twenty thousand or whatever, the air,

614
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,559
what would have happened.

615
00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:48,559
Speaker 2: With the pressurization and you got the window.

616
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,599
Speaker 5: But I'm waiting to hear more about that. But all

617
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:54,359
of a sudden, he's coming back. Well, these companies all

618
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,119
of a sudden coming back. Oh that was us, you know,

619
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,559
and it's just a weather balloon. And because up there

620
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,319
but beyond me, how they could a pilot could not

621
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,480
see that, you know, being up there, they showed how

622
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,920
big these things are. You know, the balloon itself is

623
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,759
like forty feet and then there's this whole thing underneath you.

624
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,799
Speaker 2: You aren't going very fast though, you're going five an hour,

625
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,839
so things come up on.

626
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,559
Speaker 5: Your I mean, I'm I don't know enough about flight.

627
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: But obviously see it.

628
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: But why doesn't have any warning lights, like the red lights.

629
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:30,279
Speaker 4: Or something like that, you could pick it up or like, uh,

630
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,759
you know, too close to the ground. You know, there's

631
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,759
those proximity alarms they have on the jets, you know,

632
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,200
pull up, pull up your.

633
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,799
Speaker 5: Well, let's wait and see if this is really the

634
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:44,079
story behind the story. But that all of a sudden,

635
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,920
the announcement come out from this company, you know, just

636
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,599
like we're hearing on the other item we're just talking about. Yeah,

637
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,599
I don't know, I'm becoming very suspicious of this stuff.

638
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,839
Speaker 3: Well we apologize after the fact, and actually I just stupid.

639
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 4: The other day a commercial jet had a dodge real

640
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,839
hard because they're almost her to be fifty two.

641
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was about it. Yeah, that was about

642
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,720
a couple of months ago. The B fifty two is

643
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,400
at an air show and it's taking off and this plane, yeah,

644
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:13,880
I mean a close call for them is within a

645
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,079
quarter mile because once again both both the airplanes are

646
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,519
going very fast, right, and you get it, you know.

647
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: The B fifty two is no small change. Oh yeah, yeah,

648
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,799
if you can't see your B fifty two coming at you.

649
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:29,559
You shouldn't be flying with the exhaust too. Anyway, Brandy

650
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,279
is laughing, so she might be a sleep too.

651
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:38,319
Speaker 3: She went to the bathroom. Somebody popped in for dinner

652
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,559
and she'd served them in this Now she's back.

653
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: So anyway, Brandy, you're back after the technical problem, we're

654
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,480
going to clap for you again. Fishing case. I wasn't

655
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,079
picked up the last time. So you have a report

656
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:53,119
for us tonight, right.

657
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 8: I do.

658
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it about.

659
00:32:56,319 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 6: It's about reincarnation, pass lives perfect, all right, please, okay,

660
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,880
educate us.

661
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,039
Speaker 2: All right.

662
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,799
Speaker 6: There is so much information about reincarnation. I wanted to

663
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:17,799
cite my sources. I use Psychology Today dot com, spirit

664
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,839
oft Thescripture dot com, Hindu America dot org, interviews with

665
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:27,079
Dolores Cannon, a book by Ian Stevenson called Children Who

666
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:31,079
Remember Previous Lives. I looked at episodes of The Ghost

667
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,359
Inside My Child TV show, and the information that was

668
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:39,480
published by the Institute for Noetic Sciences. But like I said,

669
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,880
there's so much information that I'm only going to talk

670
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,279
about a couple of things here because I just can't

671
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:49,000
talk about it all anyway.

672
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 8: For people who don't know.

673
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,759
Speaker 6: Reincarnation is the belief in the after death transition of

674
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,759
a soul that's born into another body, and the belief

675
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:05,079
in re incarnation is incorporated into numerous religious belief systems

676
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,280
and is a central tenet to some religions, including Hinduism

677
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,960
and Buddhism. And in Hinduism, the belief is that the

678
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,000
soul is eternal and it's reborn after each death of

679
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,280
the body in an attempt for the soul to reach

680
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,800
a karmic perfection, and once it does that, then it's

681
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,639
freed from the reincarnation cycle. And in Buddhism, a soul

682
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,519
is reborn again in cycles based on the acts of

683
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:42,519
its previous life until it finally achieves enlightenment. And those

684
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,119
two kind of sound like essentially the same theory, but

685
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,280
there are different nuances to them that I'm not really

686
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:55,239
knowledgeable enough to interpret. But somehow they're different even though

687
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,400
they sound like they're the same. There are other religions

688
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:05,920
that incorporate aspects of reincarnation, which include gnosticism, cabalistic Judaism,

689
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,320
and there are Native American and African nation or tribal

690
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,679
specific beliefs about reincarnation. And then there are other real

691
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:23,760
obscure religious beliefs that incorporate reincarnation. And there is a

692
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,719
debate as to whether or not reincarnation is referenced in

693
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,880
Christianity and in the Bible, and a lot of it

694
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,519
comes down to interpretation, and in general, Christians don't believe

695
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:42,239
in reincarnation if they're translating the Bible literally. There is

696
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,960
a teacher named Joshua Tildman who has a blog, Spirit

697
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,079
of thescripture dot com, and he tries to look at

698
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:54,599
the hidden meanings behind literal Biblical interpretations, and he cites

699
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,159
some passages relating to the reincarnation of Elijah as On

700
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,679
the Baptist and he also cites some nac Gnostic gospels,

701
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:10,880
which were gospels that were removed at one time or

702
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,559
another from the Bible, and that some of those indicate

703
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:23,320
aspects of reincarnation. According to the Institute for Noetic Sciences,

704
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,960
Greek and Roman influenced beliefs in reincarnation were incorporated into

705
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:32,559
the early Christian tradition, but then they were banned in

706
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:37,400
the fifth century by the Fifth Ecumenical Council. And there

707
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:42,840
is a purported Gnostic text called the Pistis Sophia which

708
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,960
relates the post resurrection teachings of Jesus to his disciples

709
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,519
and discusses how a new body is chosen after death

710
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,440
for a soul which had sinned. But again that's a

711
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:01,039
gnostic text, so it was removed. There is a researcher

712
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:07,159
named doctor Ian Stevenson, and he was a psychiatrist at

713
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:10,960
the University of Virginia School of Medicine, and he became

714
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,360
an expert on the subject of reincarnation and past life

715
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,639
memories among children. He studied hundreds of cases of children

716
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,559
who reported extremely specific details of past lives, including details

717
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:27,199
that they could not know anything about because of their

718
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,400
age and their education level, and a lot of the

719
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,320
details were later verified through doctor Stevenson's research, including he

720
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,679
had discussions with relatives of the deceased to compare what

721
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,679
the kids were saying about the person that have been deceased.

722
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,280
Other researchers, including Professor Jim Tucker of the psychiatry and

723
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Neurobehavioral science departments at the University of West Virginia, carried

724
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:01,480
on doctor Stevenson's work in Western countries and the United States,

725
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,480
and according to Psychology Today, there were nearly twenty five

726
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:11,119
hundred cases of these past life reports up from children

727
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:15,159
that had been studied by the two and they came

728
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,880
up with some statistics regarding their studies. Children typically began

729
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,639
talking about being in a past life between the ages

730
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:27,639
of two and four, and the majority of children experienced

731
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,480
a former life that ended unnaturally or due to a trauma, trauma,

732
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,960
or an incident. And in three quarters of the cases

733
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,559
of the previous personality, the person died at a relatively

734
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:45,960
young age, with a quarter of the deaths occurring before

735
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,960
the person was fifteen years old. And it was found

736
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,800
that on the average, the deaths of the previous personalities

737
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,800
occurred about four and a half years before the birth

738
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,800
of the children who remembered being in that past life.

739
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: But that's an average, you know. Can I just add

740
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,360
something here? Isn't it odd that a lot of the

741
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,760
people think, you know, only spent their previous life a

742
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,599
shortened time on the earth. You know what I mean?

743
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,440
You don't It doesn't sound like people say I'm coming

744
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,079
back after I lived fifty years, right, Maybe I.

745
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: Mean coming back as another human being or is it

746
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:30,559
some other entity?

747
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:32,079
Speaker 2: Yeah?

748
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,159
Speaker 6: The the what I studied, the research that I did,

749
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,639
I guess only talked about coming back as another human

750
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:44,360
being in another human body to work out karma.

751
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, is it working out karma or is it working

752
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:51,760
out craft that you did in the past.

753
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 6: Well, kind of the same thing. That's why, you know,

754
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,639
I don't I don't really understand the different between those

755
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:05,519
two things, but there is one, and I guess it's

756
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:12,239
to learn more so that you can evolve spiritually.

757
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: Right, learn learn other lessons because guy, like I said,

758
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,519
I have I have a guy I met fifty years

759
00:40:18,519 --> 00:40:21,320
ago when we were kids, and out of the blue,

760
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,159
he told me that we were brothers. You know, we

761
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:27,599
were basically what he called cosmic brothers, and that we

762
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,880
traveled through time in lifetimes together and we always meet

763
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,400
up in the New life and we had at the time,

764
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,599
I was in my teens when I met him, and

765
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:40,000
he said, you and I, you know, you and I

766
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,519
have brothers. We've been doing this for forever and ever,

767
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,119
and we're going to keep doing it until we learn

768
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:45,440
whatever it is we're supposed to.

769
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, until we get it right.

770
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:53,079
Speaker 4: And and honest to god, he believed it wholeheartedly, tony, right, Yeah,

771
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:53,760
and he still does.

772
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to very quickly just and quickly go to

773
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,920
club because I know you have a personal experience.

774
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could take a whole show on this subject, Brandy.

775
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:07,400
I've done a lot of research through personal experience. But

776
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,960
one of the points you made, first of all, is

777
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,119
that normally a lot of the cases that really look

778
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,760
like they have something to them relate to people who

779
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,320
died either suddenly or and usually at a young age

780
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,079
before their normal you would consider the normal death age.

781
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,760
And the thing I studied a lot had to do

782
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,960
with the military, and because it's very calm, and many

783
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:44,400
many cases of people killed in action who are then reincarnated,

784
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,519
you know, and they died violently, and particularly after World

785
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:53,360
War Two, there was a big thing about this for

786
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,880
quite a few years after World War Two of people

787
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,559
born during that period. I think you said like within

788
00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:03,760
four year years of the death of that person. And

789
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,039
just briefly I've told us in the show before, but

790
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:13,599
growing up in my neighborhood, one of my friends, his

791
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:20,880
little brother, we believe is proved to us. I think

792
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,800
that he was involved with a reincarnation. We had an

793
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,079
instance one time when we were watching television. It was

794
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,199
a day off of school, it was raining or something.

795
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 2: I don't know. And we had the.

796
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: Only TV in this on the street, which didn't mean

797
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,639
a lot, but it was at that time. And so

798
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,000
I guess he had a babysitter's little brother because we

799
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,199
got out of school earlier. We were like ten years old,

800
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,079
nine years old, and his little brother was like five,

801
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,639
So we had a babysit them. See, brought him over

802
00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:53,599
to my house and since they had the TV, we

803
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,079
used to in days like that, we would sit there

804
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,239
and watch, you know, the shows that came on and

805
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,199
they were primary early World War two movies with John

806
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,239
Wayne and all that stuff that was big at that time,

807
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,800
you know, and five ten years after, yeah, four o'clock movie, Yeah,

808
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,440
whatever it was, but it was in the in the

809
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,480
early afternoon fighting CBS. There was a ten of them.

810
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,280
So anyways, we had it. One day we were there

811
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,840
and there was two or three of us sitting around

812
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,039
watching one of the war movies along with his little brother.

813
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,280
He sat there with us, and all of a sudden

814
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:36,679
there was combat and a couple of the soldiers were shot,

815
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,920
you know, and to show them being shot and falling

816
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,079
down and he all of a sudden, but the brothers

817
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,559
saying no, no, no, no, no, He was like panicking.

818
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,719
He wouldn't take his eyes off the screen where normally

819
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,719
he was sitting with us. He didn't care about those

820
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,360
stupid movies. And he kept pointing to his arm. A

821
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,079
part of his arm was up a arm me me,

822
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:05,039
got me the or something like that. And anyways, it

823
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:11,320
so happened that he has a birthmark on that area.

824
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,880
He pointed to it, and he knew nothing about birthmarks.

825
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,480
And if you read about a lot of these situations

826
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:26,119
that happened that time where the person got injured or

827
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:30,039
shirt where they got shot, how they died normally is

828
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,800
when you come back as someone else, they have a

829
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:39,079
birthmark in that same area. Yeah, and so I won't

830
00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:40,920
go much in here. But the whole thing is, he

831
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:44,400
just went nuts, and he kept saying no, no, no,

832
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:48,559
and he was pointing to his arm and his birthmark

833
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:53,559
and everything. And didn't think a lot of it at first.

834
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,480
But then a couple of days later, as brother was

835
00:44:58,519 --> 00:44:59,199
telling us that he.

836
00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Would wake his just started.

837
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:05,679
Speaker 5: This incident at my house started him going. He never

838
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,119
had an issue at that time. In four or five

839
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:11,320
years old, that's the age when this whole reincarnation thing

840
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,440
comes about. So Anyways, he started during the night. He

841
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:19,360
started screaming, waking up during the night and his brother,

842
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,559
my friend, they lived in the they slept in the

843
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:25,280
same room, and he couldn't deal with it. And finally,

844
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,320
you know, the mother used to have to take him

845
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,920
out of there. But he would wake up in the

846
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:36,239
middle of the night with crying about being shot things

847
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,679
like that, and it was really funny. I mean, it

848
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,559
happened all from that television show and it's not like

849
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:47,480
kids get up, they'd go to bed there. Nightmare is

850
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,679
about you know, monsters and stuff. So anyways, but his

851
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,119
mother was so upset after that.

852
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,599
Speaker 2: We used to tease him.

853
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: I remember one day I would go out in the

854
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,280
be outside, I mean I was a young kid, and

855
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,360
he'd be out there. I'd tease him, you know about that,

856
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:10,039
and he ran on the house screaming and his mother

857
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,639
then read me the Riot Act. So I could never

858
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:16,760
do that anymore. But anyways, there's much more to the story,

859
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,239
but the bottom line is here's an instance where this

860
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,639
kid is four or five years old, never saw a

861
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:24,840
war movie before, never because they didn't even have a TV.

862
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
And the reaction that he had that day, I will

863
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,800
never forget. I never forgot. And I remember after that

864
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,880
to calm him down, I think we had to take

865
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,840
him in the kitchen. I had a box of Twinkies

866
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,400
or something, and you know, to shut him up. But

867
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,000
I never forgot that and after that. I've done a

868
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,440
lot of research over the years now about debts and

869
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:54,599
reincarnations from World Wars, from wars, you know, soldiers or

870
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,639
sales whatever who were killed in battle, and how there

871
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,239
was a lot of cases of incarnation that they could

872
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,039
the person that was the new person could explain things

873
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:09,079
about it that no one else, none of his. A

874
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,480
kid that was in the house four or five years old,

875
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,519
he was questioning the way the gun bully some of

876
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,400
them shoot me, shoot me now. It was just amazing.

877
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,199
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're listening to Macmoney's Mill Tracks. I'll show

878
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:58,280
you're on the Distant Thunder Radio Network. Please stay tuned. Wow,

879
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,760
we're back. Welcome back everyone to Macloney's Middle Tracks. All

880
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,679
show here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This is

881
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,039
MACA Roney. While what a show we have you tonight.

882
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:14,480
Listen to the party in the background, broadcasting live from

883
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,199
the stop A Galley Restaurant fifty five water Street, Newer

884
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,960
report Massachusetts, great seafood, great hamburger is great steak and cheese, Sammy.

885
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,079
We saw one inhaled here earlier in the show and

886
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,360
yours to dive phone. We had some technical problems, but

887
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,559
in theory they are worked out now. So let me

888
00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:37,480
very quickly introduce the members of the posse, the one

889
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:40,800
who remained girls see of the very famous one one.

890
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,159
Speaker 3: Hello, Mac, how are you? How's everybody out there on

891
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,760
radio land? Does anybody say that anymore? Out in radio land?

892
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: You just did? Hang on? Also with us is Alvin Laldough, producer, director,

893
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:56,480
et cetera.

894
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,119
Speaker 4: Hella Machel. Everybody also having a fun evening here tonight. Yeah, yeah,

895
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,559
a lot of behind the scene things, okay. Also in

896
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,280
the studio in the house with us, making a very

897
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,039
rare personal appearance is Willie Club Willie.

898
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,519
Speaker 2: Hey, Mac.

899
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 5: Everyone, it's great to be here tonight. As you say,

900
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,960
live live. You know, it's a treat for me to

901
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,039
come here. It's only about thirty miles away. But because

902
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,039
of the traffic situation the time we broadcast.

903
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate it. It's tough.

904
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: Oh I enjoyed this, but tonight having that steak and

905
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,239
cheese sub here.

906
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: There you go. That made it well worthwhile. Yeah, so

907
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,599
you're getting these stopied experience as the kids saying, yeah, absolutely, okay.

908
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Also with us joining us from either North Carolina or

909
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,480
South Carolina, I'm not sure, but Scott and Suzanne Ramsey,

910
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:54,199
we're going to clap for you now and then we'll

911
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:59,119
tell everybody why. So we met Scott and Susan. How

912
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:01,360
long ago was that we met down in Washington at

913
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:07,760
that Muffin conference Baltimore? Yeah? When, well when was that?

914
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,599
What year was that?

915
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,119
Speaker 8: I was just looking at something the other day and

916
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:14,760
I don't remember now, it was a couple of years back.

917
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in the before of the hurricanes. The

918
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:20,239
hurricane followed us right up the coach. Yeah, we got,

919
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,480
we got. I got out in the last train out

920
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,239
of DC, and then I think it's Hungary and Andrew.

921
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,119
I don't know, the one that wrecked New.

922
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,079
Speaker 7: Jersey twenty twelve.

923
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: I think okay, Yeah, that sounds about right. And that

924
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,480
was the one and only time I gave a speech

925
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,280
in one of those things. It was just for me.

926
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,719
It was like a nightmare. But you guys were you

927
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,480
were pros at it. So anyway, so we met, we talked,

928
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,840
and the short version is that you were both very

929
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,920
interested in a UFO crash in the late forties in Astec,

930
00:50:52,039 --> 00:50:55,960
New Mexico, and and that kind of brought you together. Susan,

931
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:00,360
you were on the radio, you interviewed Scott, you fell

932
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,880
in love and you've been married ever since, right, okay,

933
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,199
all right, so listen, hang on, there we go. So

934
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,440
congratulations on that. And then you you told me that

935
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
you know that story. So at the right around the

936
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,639
same time, we had just started this band called sky

937
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,320
Club and that Yestery just kind of made an impression

938
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,239
on me. So we recorded a song called the Aztec

939
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:36,559
Ufo Crash Love Song or something. Okay, right, and we're

940
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,360
finally putting out the album, but we wanted you on tonight.

941
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:42,840
You you of course know about the song, correct, You've

942
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,440
heard it, okay, and everyone seems to like it. So

943
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,360
should we play it now?

944
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 7: They want to?

945
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:51,119
Speaker 2: I want to hear it, all right, and then we'll

946
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,119
talk about when we come back. So this is really

947
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:57,599
the love story between these two love birds, Scott and

948
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,199
Suzanne Ramsay.

949
00:51:58,639 --> 00:52:00,519
Speaker 3: Get writing credits on the song or what.

950
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm only kidnap. So when we play the song

951
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,480
now as tack crash love song and I'll talk about

952
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,280
it later. So what do I push you a onney

953
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:18,280
right here? Okay, here we go astac ufo crash love

954
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,280
song ready.

955
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 9: In this corner roll the west where totally tastes the.

956
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 8: Best sixteen ye a scene.

957
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 9: But we can't touch up.

958
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 5: Homessages from Long High.

959
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 7: Fifty the only the sky.

960
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:52,599
Speaker 9: Fell from heaven stone and in the desert floor.

961
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,079
Speaker 2: I'm met you stand there on that guy. It's so

962
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:00,840
very clear.

963
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 9: I could see the milky way to your lips cut

964
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:08,880
in the way.

965
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 8: You and Bye.

966
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:18,199
Speaker 2: Corfu spies.

967
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:25,679
Speaker 9: Lacking in the rain dis come down again.

968
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 8: Soon by.

969
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 2: Also by.

970
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 9: Keep big Ant's bow shoots in our ways below. Nothing's

971
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:49,920
been the same since the radio spoken name.

972
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 2: By two Gifts from the Bone.

973
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:01,039
Speaker 9: Are the stars in New Minor will be there at

974
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:11,719
the him what's my favorite special? Did you diversagree.

975
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:14,159
Speaker 2: That we were meant to be?

976
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 9: You come Spies Black Marine Deside come out again, assume me.

977
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,079
Speaker 7: Home by.

978
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 3: Oh so.

979
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 8: Kep sis ball shoots him up an asby.

980
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 7: You and Bye, I can.

981
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:35,039
Speaker 9: Spy in the pages on my book One look was

982
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,320
all it too?

983
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 8: Suoming me on by.

984
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 9: Oh shows his Bob shoots an out last.

985
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. A nice song, I say so myself.

986
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,519
So the music by Cynthia Smith and we did the lyrics.

987
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:44,239
So and it's about you guys.

988
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 3: So who's the singer.

989
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 8: We've heard it before and absolutely love it and it's

990
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,360
so meaningful that you've done that.

991
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,519
Speaker 2: My Poolan is the singer, Chris Billius the producer, and

992
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,039
they play at the piano and I hate to say

993
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,039
about the late great Omini cast Andel playing the saxophone,

994
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,480
which is just, you know, beautiful. So yeah, so it's

995
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,159
a lot of fun putting it together. And I think

996
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:12,840
that you have an interesting story to tell. So tell

997
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,880
us about the books. How many books have you written

998
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,480
now about the ASTAC crash?

999
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 8: Two?

1000
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:20,079
Speaker 2: Okay, we're on our third one.

1001
00:57:20,159 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 8: We're finishing up our third one. This what's a little

1002
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:27,719
bit different. As we wrote the first one, we wrote

1003
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,960
everything we knew to that point, yep. The second one

1004
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:35,800
everything that we could squeeze in. And as Mac knows

1005
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,000
for sure, there's only so much you can put in

1006
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,039
a book just the way it is. And we decided

1007
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,119
that we would do a third book. And as we

1008
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,440
are gently aging on, we wanted to have all of

1009
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:54,239
our research someplace, and so we are putting the entire

1010
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:02,760
chronological events sequence, all types of information that we've never

1011
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,000
put in before, witnesses and things, and then followed up

1012
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:09,480
with the documents at the end. But a lot of

1013
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:12,440
stuff we've never done before, and it will be comprehensive,

1014
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,320
will be self publishing because it just it's too hard

1015
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,800
to have somebody, you know, they just don't value.

1016
00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: These days or whatever, and this is it. So just

1017
00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:25,039
tell us real quick, just give us the thumbnail of

1018
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,159
what happened down there.

1019
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 10: The whole Aztec Ufo recovery crash event started out actually

1020
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:37,519
weeks before the vehicle was actually brought down, with sightings

1021
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:42,760
over Farmington all the way to Los Alamos, through the

1022
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,360
town of Cuba, which is south of Aztec, and on

1023
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:52,280
March twenty fifth, nineteen forty eight, a huge flying saucer,

1024
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,960
this was one hundred roughly one hundred feet across eighteen

1025
00:58:57,079 --> 00:59:02,000
feet tall, hit a mesa on the Archa Letta ranch

1026
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:09,079
in Blanco, New Mexico, creamed off the mesa and showering

1027
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:12,880
sparks for quite a distance, and then tracked due north

1028
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:17,880
and landed on a mesa on Hart Canyon Road, which

1029
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,320
is about eleven point two miles from downtown Aztec, and

1030
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:29,639
by daylight a recovery team apparently had been notified. Oil

1031
00:59:29,719 --> 00:59:32,880
fill workers stumbled on at about five o'clock in the morning,

1032
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:39,639
and by late after or late lunch, early afternoon, the

1033
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,199
military showed up and a full recovery operation took place.

1034
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:44,679
Speaker 7: Lasted about two weeks.

1035
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 2: How many witnesses were involved.

1036
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 7: Oh many.

1037
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,559
Speaker 10: We were able to interview a few before they passed.

1038
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,480
There were probably a dozen to fourteen people at the site.

1039
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,119
I don't have my sheet not swiftly.

1040
01:00:02,239 --> 01:00:02,519
Speaker 7: Sorry.

1041
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: In the site it crashed like in an oil field,

1042
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:08,519
right on Neil one in.

1043
01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 7: An oil field.

1044
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, it more like belly landed. There wasn't much damage

1045
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,159
to the craft at all.

1046
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:18,559
Speaker 2: And so these oil workers were the first on the site,

1047
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:20,519
and didn't they look in the windows and could see

1048
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,159
little beings in the windows and so on, little beings.

1049
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,199
Speaker 8: Well, there was no damage done to the craft except

1050
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:32,280
for one tiny hole, and that was in a portal

1051
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:36,599
that was about the size of a quarter. One of

1052
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:40,000
the oil foiled workers ran down to the truck and

1053
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,159
grabbed a pole and started prodding inside and hit a

1054
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,119
latch and the door came down, they were able to

1055
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:53,960
go inside where they found two bodies and eventually there

1056
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,320
were sixteen bodies that were in there. It was a

1057
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:05,039
three layered aft. It was ninety nine foot it was

1058
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:08,960
eighteen inches eighteen feet tall.

1059
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 2: Wow, so this is a big this is something that's

1060
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:16,880
a sizeable size, right, I mean one hundred feet eighteen feet. Yeah,

1061
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:22,400
And so all this is going on, people are stopping by.

1062
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:25,159
There was a I think the minister involved, he saw it.

1063
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,320
There were people incredible people saw it. And then the

1064
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,159
military shows up. Then what and then the military shows up?

1065
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,400
And I remember people back then reading the story saying

1066
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,800
that they a helicopter landed a lot of people they

1067
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:42,159
didn't know what a helicopter was. This is back in

1068
01:01:42,239 --> 01:01:44,800
nineteen forty eight, and so they think this is just

1069
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:48,960
more of the same. And the military comes. They arrived

1070
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:50,920
with some kind of big crane. They lift this thing

1071
01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:53,960
up and throw it away and that's it, man, That's

1072
01:01:54,119 --> 01:01:56,960
that's all you hear about it. And they really kind

1073
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,840
of hushed the stuff.

1074
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,159
Speaker 7: Really.

1075
01:01:58,599 --> 01:02:04,199
Speaker 8: Actually, there were scientists, the world class scientists that were

1076
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,840
brought in with all different types of knowledge that specialties,

1077
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:13,760
and they were there for two weeks and they took

1078
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,639
as much of the craft apart and took chunks to

1079
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,039
go in and work on. There was a nurse there

1080
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:24,239
that was there working with them to make sure that

1081
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,599
they didn't have any problems while on the craft, right

1082
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,480
you know there, So yes, basically that's what happened. You know,

1083
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,960
you don't hear anything more about it, but that the

1084
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,679
scientists was a very big portion of it. And I

1085
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,679
think that's what makes the Aztec crash very different than

1086
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,360
most stories. One is you have the pre citing and

1087
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Scott didn't cover that because we're short on time. But

1088
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,760
but there there was sightings and police reports for a

1089
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:01,519
month before and police officers that followed the craft all

1090
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,320
the way up to where it is in landing for hours,

1091
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,360
all through the night. So we have the pre sightings,

1092
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,239
we have the actual incident itself, we have the witnesses

1093
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:18,199
at the location, we've got the scientists, and then we

1094
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,639
have the cover up. And that's one of the things

1095
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:23,679
that's been so heavy with our research is to prove

1096
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,440
the cover up.

1097
01:03:24,639 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: And there's.

1098
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 8: Gosh, we have documentation from what CIA.

1099
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:38,239
Speaker 7: FBI, the early Air Force. What do you feel well

1100
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,039
documented within the government, what do you think they brought it.

1101
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:48,119
Speaker 10: I think it immediately after leaving the Aztec area. And

1102
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:50,159
by the way, I don't know if you're even aware

1103
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:51,840
of this, Bac. I think we did this after we

1104
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,199
met you. We spent a week and re enacted moving

1105
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,800
the craft. Because it figured ninety nine point nine feet

1106
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,920
in diameter. Those were huge sections.

1107
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1108
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, And even in Scully's book he talks about they

1109
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:13,360
took it apart and in four pieces, the aerofoil section

1110
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:17,960
of the craft and the center section was basically the

1111
01:04:18,039 --> 01:04:22,199
main power source. Rumors were it went to Los Alamos,

1112
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:26,199
roughly one hundred and sixty miles away. A year later,

1113
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:30,159
after our second book came out, we were contacted by

1114
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:34,039
a gentleman that worked for a fortune five hundred company

1115
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,400
Eastman Kodak actually, and he worked in a division that

1116
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:44,199
made instrumentation and he said he worked on it up

1117
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,639
until nineteen fifty seven at Right Path.

1118
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,039
Speaker 2: Wow. Really yeah, yeah, So where it.

1119
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 10: Went in between nobody knows where. Maybe it just went

1120
01:04:52,159 --> 01:04:56,599
from Los Alamos to Right Path. But when he left

1121
01:04:56,639 --> 01:05:01,440
the program, he said they still hadn't figured out the craft.

1122
01:05:01,679 --> 01:05:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it would take you know, it would be

1123
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:06,239
I think it'd be hot. It be like a aveman

1124
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,159
trying to figure out a calculator or something.

1125
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: But refresh my memory. What year are we talking about with?

1126
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: Nineteen So it's a year after the Cainathonald sightings, a

1127
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,159
year after like flying sauces came into our vocabulary or whatever,

1128
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,199
you know, and people were seeing a lot of stuff.

1129
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,400
And then down in that area, that part of the country,

1130
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,719
especially back then last almost was like a big place.

1131
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,679
That's like where they brought all the captured Nazi secret

1132
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:37,920
weapons and stuff like that. You know, so they were

1133
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,960
into some heavy stuff down there. But you know, so

1134
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,239
the thing is, in nineteen forty eight, this could happen

1135
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,079
and then the army could you know, eventually come pick

1136
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,280
it up and tow it away and that's it. These days,

1137
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,000
you can never mentioned something like this happening these days,

1138
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480
I mean, come on, there'd be thousands of people down

1139
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:01,360
there watching it. Where did it go? You never you

1140
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:03,000
never get away with it these days.

1141
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:05,159
Speaker 7: You just wouldn't you would, you know?

1142
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,119
Speaker 2: So did you do you have any I mean, this

1143
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,079
is something that's been a big patio lives. Do you

1144
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:16,559
have any ideas where might have come from or where

1145
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:17,159
they come from?

1146
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:24,559
Speaker 10: M no idea how it flew the propulsion system, Uh,

1147
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:26,039
where to come from?

1148
01:06:26,159 --> 01:06:27,199
Speaker 7: Where? Where is it today?

1149
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: It is today? Yeah?

1150
01:06:29,079 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1151
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:31,639
Speaker 3: What happened to the bodies?

1152
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Where's the bodies? Where are the bodies there?

1153
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,719
Speaker 10: There was a rumor, and it was purely a rumor,

1154
01:06:38,679 --> 01:06:43,880
that they bodies were at first taken to Albuquerque and

1155
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:49,880
then they that what was that clinic Loveless Clinic okay,

1156
01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:55,199
right in Albuquerque, which did a lot of a lot

1157
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,760
of unique medical testing back in the.

1158
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 7: Day after World War Two. Yeah, yeah, and then after.

1159
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 10: They were done, apparently the rumor has that they went

1160
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,559
to a lot of animals, but I have nothing to

1161
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:08,199
back that up.

1162
01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:09,639
Speaker 7: There. The the.

1163
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: The extent of keeping us under wraps must have been monumental,

1164
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,239
you know what I mean, as every person who was

1165
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:23,000
involved had to you know, not talk about it. You know,

1166
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,119
a lot of the Army people would have to be

1167
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:28,199
you know, sworn to secrecy. And the fact that they

1168
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:30,360
were working on it ten years later really tells you

1169
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:32,559
something that you know, they just can't figure this out.

1170
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,000
I don't know, you know. I mean the thing that

1171
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:44,280
that always kind of mystifies me is that people will say, well,

1172
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,960
they have these UFOs. They've they've back engineered them, they say,

1173
01:07:50,719 --> 01:07:53,599
and now here's the technology that we use these days

1174
01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:56,440
that we got back engineered from it. But I don't

1175
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,400
see it. You know, where's all these wonder invents and

1176
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,079
stuff like that that might come from something from a UFO.

1177
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:08,039
Speaker 8: You know, there were some interesting things that they found

1178
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:13,159
on the craft. They found how would we describe them?

1179
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:20,039
Like what looked like CDs, flat screen flat screen ctvs? Yeah,

1180
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:27,199
what glass that would be like reflective.

1181
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:31,239
Speaker 7: Polarized sunglasses, Yeah, something like that.

1182
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,399
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe, well that's where it came from. That'd

1183
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:34,960
be interesting if you see these.

1184
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:38,359
Speaker 8: Those were all things that, of course in nineteen forty

1185
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,479
eight didn't exist, right, yes, right, yep, but were on

1186
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,640
the craft yep.

1187
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I say, people back then didn't even know

1188
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:46,319
how helicopter was.

1189
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 7: You know.

1190
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: That's how you know, going back club, you seem like

1191
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,319
you have something to say. Yeah, the interchapter had just been.

1192
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,199
Speaker 11: Right, yeah, yeah, and so when they saw it, they

1193
01:08:58,279 --> 01:09:02,119
weren't sure which they were more amazed by the helicopter

1194
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:11,199
or they were equally as shocking to them club.

1195
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: Go ahead, please.

1196
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,279
Speaker 5: What I find interesting is talking about the structure of

1197
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:19,680
this craft. We've always been under the impression that, you know,

1198
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:23,039
these crafts be made out of materials that we would

1199
01:09:23,119 --> 01:09:26,319
know nothing about, they'd be super strong and all this.

1200
01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:29,079
But it sounds like they were able to take it

1201
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:33,479
upot in different pieces, which sort of goes away from

1202
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,520
what I would have thought a structure like that would

1203
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,199
be impenetral exactly.

1204
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 8: There's some clarification on that.

1205
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 7: Frank Skelly addressed it back in nineteen fifty in his

1206
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,560
book and what.

1207
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:53,279
Speaker 10: Is pretty normal today back then was crazy and that

1208
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:54,760
a lot of people poo pood that.

1209
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:00,399
Speaker 7: Does anybody in that group have an airplane a angular

1210
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:00,840
race car?

1211
01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 3: Nope, Nope, not here.

1212
01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 10: The a device called a pib pin p I B

1213
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:14,159
pin is commonly used today here on the farm, our

1214
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:17,079
tractor implements are held in by a pid pin.

1215
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeh.

1216
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:24,119
Speaker 10: Scully talked about how the scientists were able to go

1217
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:28,079
down inside and find pins that they could pull out

1218
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,279
and releasing parts of the craft.

1219
01:10:31,319 --> 01:10:33,520
Speaker 7: There weren't bolt screws anything like that.

1220
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: Interesting, yeah, yeah, yeah, And they.

1221
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 10: Said the fit was so perfect once they're all pinned together,

1222
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,119
you couldn't you couldn't even see.

1223
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:47,279
Speaker 8: Thessal that was actually built with was indestructible. They couldn't

1224
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,920
they couldn't kind of saw through it or anything, right, Yeah,

1225
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,199
So it's kind of a combination of what you what

1226
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:56,720
you said, and and these pins.

1227
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1228
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: The funny thing is when they you know, like launch

1229
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:05,479
like for instance, the rocket that launched the first guys

1230
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,239
to the moon, right whatever that rocket trip was. Yeah, yeah,

1231
01:11:10,359 --> 01:11:13,560
NEPA and the Space Show. Same thing is that when

1232
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,840
they take off, what they do is they release pins.

1233
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,560
You know, the pins like go out and that's what

1234
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,560
you know, releases it from the Earth. So this whole

1235
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,079
pin technology might we might owe to the aliens. So so,

1236
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,159
but wouldn't you would agree that it would be a

1237
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:33,680
very hard secret for us to be capped all these

1238
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,560
years that no one would come out and you know, say,

1239
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,000
here's the pro from the picture.

1240
01:11:41,079 --> 01:11:46,279
Speaker 10: Well it didn't even take a few years. Frank Scully

1241
01:11:46,399 --> 01:11:54,960
was contacted by some scientists in nineteen forty nine, a

1242
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:57,479
year after the craft and I don't know what month,

1243
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,199
but it was it was a very short time later,

1244
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:02,199
and they told him that they had a story they

1245
01:12:02,359 --> 01:12:04,479
wanted him to bring. He was a pretty well known

1246
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:10,199
journalist back. It turns out they kind of stretched the

1247
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:12,279
truth a little bit. They said, the story is going

1248
01:12:12,319 --> 01:12:15,359
to come out anyway, but we want you to break

1249
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:20,399
the story now. And that was the top scientists that

1250
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,119
all came under the umbrella of doctor G in Frank

1251
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:31,039
Scully's book and and historically speaking still today, and they

1252
01:12:31,279 --> 01:12:33,640
they we we did a lot. That was probably the

1253
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,760
longest research part of our book. And we did a

1254
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,000
lot of research. And I'm pretty certain we've identified all

1255
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,439
they said there were, but one died they replaced him.

1256
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,560
There were there were nine doctor G's at the initial

1257
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,000
first year or two and these all these guys all

1258
01:12:54,039 --> 01:12:58,920
had amazing backgrounds and all of them basically went on

1259
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:00,920
to form what we know today.

1260
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,399
Speaker 7: Is Texas Instrument Oh is that right? Yeah?

1261
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: Okay, they talk about the calculator here.

1262
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,520
Speaker 10: And probably using some technology that they thought up as

1263
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,439
a result of what they learned about the craft.

1264
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: See, here's the thing is that who gets to who

1265
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,640
gets access to alien technology? You know what I mean,

1266
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,560
what do you have to do? What does Texas Instruments

1267
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,000
have to do? You know, to go and you'll get

1268
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:28,680
in on this stuff, right, you know, you know what

1269
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,439
I mean. Club, You look like you have an answer.

1270
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,399
Speaker 5: Well, I'm thinking well, I mentioned that, do you remember

1271
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:39,159
the he worked for the military. He was a lieutenant

1272
01:13:39,399 --> 01:13:43,960
or he was some officer who wrote a book just

1273
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:48,279
before he died. But about all this stuff they got

1274
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,279
and how it was re engineered re engineered, Yeah, and

1275
01:13:51,399 --> 01:13:56,000
that a lot of they brought in different companies, like

1276
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:00,479
you know, say a Texas Instruments, who are with it.

1277
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,800
They didn't the Army of Military didn't know what to

1278
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,199
do with any of this stuff.

1279
01:14:04,039 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: So they helped them kind of decipher it or whatever.

1280
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 5: Well, what they did is they gave them some of

1281
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,520
that material. And that's how different things we have today.

1282
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: Like I said, the microwave, Yeah supposed what's the stuff

1283
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,199
that sticks there? Velcrow?

1284
01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:24,520
Speaker 8: But I'm not sure. And I'm sorry we did not

1285
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,600
understand anything.

1286
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, go ahead, but but I think, you know,

1287
01:14:30,319 --> 01:14:31,720
I think you have to be at the cream of

1288
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,239
the crop of the military industrial complex to get in

1289
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:40,079
on the uh you know, on the alien technology. There'd

1290
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:43,159
be a lot to keep secret unless they don't tell

1291
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:44,039
them where it came from.

1292
01:14:47,079 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 5: There was a lot of competition at that time. If

1293
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,880
I can recall when they're reading this, that they wanted

1294
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:58,840
to keep everything secret and they signed contracts with the government.

1295
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:02,119
Speaker 2: And nondisclosure agreements and exactly.

1296
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,239
Speaker 5: That's so if you know, that's what we were led

1297
01:15:05,319 --> 01:15:09,279
to believe from these military folks who were involved in

1298
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:13,880
you know, the materials that were found in different crashes.

1299
01:15:14,039 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 2: Well, it is a great, yeah, a very interesting case.

1300
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,319
It's it's like better than Roswell. I've read the books

1301
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:22,800
and uh it's a lot more in depth than Roosewelt,

1302
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,600
a lot more uh evidence, a lot more you know,

1303
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,880
personal testimony and so on and so on. So when's

1304
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,319
your next book coming out? Kids?

1305
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 7: We're hoping this fall.

1306
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:35,359
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the name of it?

1307
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 8: We're pretty close.

1308
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: Okay, what what's the name of it?

1309
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 8: It came the other one because it's different than the

1310
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:49,600
other ones, Okay, came that Aztec, New Mexico. And then

1311
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,000
the subtitle is revealed, the Recovery of a UFO. So

1312
01:15:55,039 --> 01:15:56,319
people don't know if you can see this.

1313
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is any Oh yeah, yeah,

1314
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:06,520
that freaking thing. What it looked like yep, wow, yeah,

1315
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,479
it looks like a huge flying saucer. I mean that's

1316
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,239
what it. Yeah. So I was eighteen feet tall, eighteen

1317
01:16:15,359 --> 01:16:18,920
feet thick, and ninety nine feet long. Right, it's like

1318
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,000
a destroyer. Yeah, that's a big you know what I mean.

1319
01:16:22,039 --> 01:16:24,520
It's like a frigate almost nine feet.

1320
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like about the distance from home plate to

1321
01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:28,880
second base.

1322
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,039
Speaker 2: Oh there you are a small a small destroyer.

1323
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1324
01:16:33,279 --> 01:16:35,239
Speaker 2: Well, listen to thank you kids. We're going to clap

1325
01:16:35,319 --> 01:16:41,279
for you. Oh, probably you're working also. This interesting.

1326
01:16:41,279 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 8: I have enjoyed you so much, and our time with

1327
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,119
you in Baltimore was very special.

1328
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a lot of fun there.

1329
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 8: When you reached out to me about this show, I

1330
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,000
was looking to see where we could get the music

1331
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:57,279
so that we could include that in the book.

1332
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, people listen to it.

1333
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 8: Is there a way that that's possible?

1334
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: Well, the album is coming out very soon, within the

1335
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,359
next two or three months on Spotify. And but I

1336
01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:11,920
will send you a copy of the song and you

1337
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,840
can do with it what you want. How was that?

1338
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 8: Okay, thank you so much.

1339
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,279
Speaker 7: That is so nice.

1340
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,399
Speaker 8: And again, thank you for honoring us. Really thats a lot,

1341
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:21,840
you know.

1342
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:26,359
Speaker 2: I think you have a really fun kind of romantic meeting.

1343
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:32,119
Always good to meet cute, right, we love romance, romance,

1344
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:36,000
We have every romantic here. So we love love, We

1345
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:39,880
love love, so Thank you Scott and Suzanne. We appreciate it.

1346
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,720
And so we're going to end the show. So hang around.

1347
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:47,039
We're going to end the show tonight, right uh well right, yeah, yeah,

1348
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:49,760
time is good. Yeah, we'll fill in with music. Okay,

1349
01:17:50,359 --> 01:17:52,960
all right, So I want to I want to thank

1350
01:17:53,039 --> 01:17:57,359
everyone for joining us tonight. Let me thank once again

1351
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:03,720
Scott and Suzanne A. Ramsey for joining us. Thank you.

1352
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,840
We appreciate that the az tech crash. Just go just

1353
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,439
a google as techfo crash and you'll see their books

1354
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,640
and so on. Also, thank you Brandy who had to

1355
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,760
drop out halfway through the show. Thank you club for

1356
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:19,760
joining us. Wow.

1357
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 5: Club, Well, I'll tell you this is quite an experience

1358
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,960
to be here on the ground. Yeah yeah, lot of fun.

1359
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:27,960
Too bad we had to run into some gremlins.

1360
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,159
Speaker 2: I guess that's okay, that's the double. I look out

1361
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:32,560
over at him and he's like the Pope. Right, he's

1362
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,560
like something around his neck, and yeah, he looked like

1363
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,399
the Pope. I'm glad you see a religious pot. Yeah

1364
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,720
we do, me too.

1365
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 3: We see the goodness of everybody.

1366
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 4: Real quick. You were talking about the Pope. I was

1367
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,159
reading a thing the other day. Well, I guess he's

1368
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:49,720
a big mess. I'm not a Mets fan.

1369
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: What is he?

1370
01:18:50,079 --> 01:18:50,119
Speaker 8: No?

1371
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,039
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs? Cubs. So he was doing his weekly drive

1372
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:55,920
through the square.

1373
01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah and the popemobile and some guy yelled

1374
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,439
out at him about the Mets, Mets, and he turned

1375
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,800
to the guy. I broke character, and he went but

1376
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:10,439
they lost, right, So they said that that by itself

1377
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,319
an American pope, Yes, and who knows who? They said,

1378
01:19:14,359 --> 01:19:18,680
he's been a World Series game when Chicago was in

1379
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,800
the world. He said, he's the first pope that has

1380
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:27,840
ever been to a Walmart. Really wow, And they said,

1381
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,640
they said they can basically guarantee that he personally has

1382
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:36,279
eaten more hot dogs than every pope before him. You're

1383
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:39,039
bind okay, because he ate he ate one at the

1384
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:42,359
ball game. So they said, it's like one for one.

1385
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,840
You take the storied presence of the pope and you

1386
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:46,760
make an American.

1387
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,319
Speaker 2: This is what you get. Well, yeah, which is kind

1388
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:54,880
of it makes some human you know. Yeah, it's funny

1389
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,800
that the pope would actually know who the Mets were exactly.

1390
01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 4: And he breaks out of blessing people to turn to

1391
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,640
the guy and yell at him. But the Mets lost.

1392
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,319
You know they lost, didn't they you know, and lose. Yeah,

1393
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,760
imagine being told that you're a loser by the Hope

1394
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,039
your team is how men?

1395
01:20:13,159 --> 01:20:13,520
Speaker 7: You go on?

1396
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 4: The Mets must now be like shamed with the whole

1397
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:25,399
Catholic paints us off the Hope against us now. So anyway, wow, okay,

1398
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,840
so well, thank you, thank you Pope. Club what would

1399
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:34,800
they call him, club the third or something? Club the

1400
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,359
fifteenth left the fifteenth?

1401
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, thank you club, Thank you al

1402
01:20:41,079 --> 01:20:43,960
for joining us now and figuring out all the problems.

1403
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,920
Thank you one one for joining us one. You're welcome,

1404
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,800
glad to be here. Of course, out there they have

1405
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,239
quite party outside They have a twin lobster tonight here

1406
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,760
lobsters for twenty five bucks, which is not bad. I

1407
01:20:57,079 --> 01:20:58,560
can't even but that's pretty good.

1408
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Speaker 6: Right.

1409
01:20:59,279 --> 01:21:01,520
Speaker 3: That'll make any buddy holler, which is what they're doing

1410
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,199
those birthday parties and everything. So we should go join them.

1411
01:21:05,279 --> 01:21:08,840
So in the birthday party, the plugs would be this.

1412
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,680
Homestrut Troops. Homestock Troops is organization that raises money for

1413
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:19,359
our veterans who were wounded after nine to eleven that

1414
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,560
would be the Afghan War and the Iraqi War. These

1415
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,159
are people who came home missing a lemon and so on.

1416
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,920
Homestrut troops builds them homes adaptable to their needs. You've

1417
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,640
heard us talk about them now for ten years. So

1418
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,119
they will build a home adaptable to a certain veterans needs,

1419
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:39,720
low kime of space, not a lot of stairs, things

1420
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,640
like that, and their beautiful homes. And when they completed,

1421
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:45,600
they rip up the mortgage. They give them the keys.

1422
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:51,479
It's their house forever. Don't have to pay the mortgage,

1423
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,880
don't have to have that thing hang over your head

1424
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,560
every month. These are people who gave a lot to us.

1425
01:21:57,159 --> 01:21:59,680
We should give a lot to them. Homestrut troops. Please

1426
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,279
google gleim see what they're about. Ninety cents on your

1427
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,279
charity dollar. Those right to our veterans very important these

1428
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:10,159
days because our veterans are not doing too good these days,

1429
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,840
if you're just kind of follow the news. They're losing

1430
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,000
a lot of their benefits. They're losing a lot of

1431
01:22:16,119 --> 01:22:20,000
the clinics and hospitals that they were able to go

1432
01:22:20,319 --> 01:22:24,960
to before. They've laid off eighty thousand people who work

1433
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,520
for the Veterans Administration. And you know that there's no

1434
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,520
way that they can get the care that they need

1435
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:33,479
if they're missing almost like one third of the people

1436
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,479
who used to work for them.

1437
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:39,399
Speaker 2: So please just kind of be aware of what's happening

1438
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,760
to our veterans. These are people that we should honor.

1439
01:22:43,159 --> 01:22:46,319
We said many, many times, John McCain was not a loser.

1440
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,720
He was a veteran. He's a wa hero. You don't

1441
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,920
make fun of people like that, you look up to them.

1442
01:22:52,319 --> 01:22:55,439
It's very important that we do that these days, because

1443
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,039
you have that fion that stuff is slipping away from

1444
01:22:58,119 --> 01:23:02,319
us and that's not good. So but on that note

1445
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,319
to hear us next time. This is Mac from the

1446
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,159
entire crew saying be safe, be happy, and bye bye.