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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of geek

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Speaker 2: By I'm the Big Done Kirkland.

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Speaker 1: Pat Sir, Yes, we're continuing our review of Spider Man,

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I Guess Your Friendly neighborhood Spider Man with episodes three

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thank you for everything that you do. So without further

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I do, let's get into it, just your brief non

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spoiler overalls of these episodes. This Sweet Kirkland, How did

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you feel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not really much to say non spoilers, just because

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I think there's a lot of heavy plot stuff going

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on and these these bundle of three episodes that we

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got here. But uh, the one thing I can say

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is I am continuing to absolutely adore this show. I

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think it's so amazing and uh yeah, no, it's it's

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basically everything I wanted out of a out of a

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spider Man show. Yeah, so I think they're doing such

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a great job with this and I just I feel

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like I'm just a glutton right now. I'm so happy

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that every episode has been like a solid thirty minutes

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as well, Like I feel like we get a lot

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of time, yeah, just just digesting the content and it's

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it's fantastic. The animation. I feel like I can't even

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see the studying now. It's it's weird how that happens. Uh,

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you know, I would watch The Dragon Prints on Netflix

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and it has that like three D animation, and I

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would like watch the show hate the animation because it's

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it's like kind of study like that. And then I'd

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get in, like, I don't know, a couple episodes in,

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and then I just wouldn't see like the studying of

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it at all anymore. And then but yeah, and then

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I'm getting the exact same thing with it with this one. Now,

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I feel like I'm I'm really actually enjoying the animation,

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the art designs. It's just fantastic. I think all the

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colors pop really well, some really really great character development

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stuff going on, some really juicy things that are going on,

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and uh yeah, I think they're just doing a really

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good job at making it feel like a true, you know,

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friendly neighborhood Spider Man story where he's just fighting crime

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in his neighborhood, but like really and not just have

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a fresh coat of paint on it, but like really evolve.

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I think some of the familiar stories that at least

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I'm familiar with and like really not like rewrite them,

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but like, yeah, I guess we write them to a

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certain extent, but like just add like a modern twist

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or flare on it that just makes it feel really

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original even though there's like familiar names, if that makes

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any sense. So yeah, I really really loving this show.

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I'm really liking pretty much all of our characters that

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we have, So yeah, no, I'm like this is even

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more so than last week. I feel like last week

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was just such a nice surprise on oh man, there's

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like it's really it's really awesome. You know, it met

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my expectations. Now it's like, oh man, like they're continuing

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to just exceed my expectations that they're able to do

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with the show. And yeah, I'm digging it. I'm I'm

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two thumbs all over this this one. So yeah, I'll

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pass it there because I just want to jump into

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some juicy stuff that came out of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm pretty much on the same hype train

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as you are. I think that they're they're just dishing

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out every week so far, and I really love the

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week it ended on a pretty big cliffhanger and so

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here we are and just following following off from that,

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of there's a lot of dynamics in here that I

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am really really enjoying. I don't know this Rowan normals

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gona talk about a thumbnail. We got a thumbnail on there,

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so I don't know what he's talking about. It's a

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great thumbnail too, But yeah, I think I think so

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far what's going on with these characters is great and

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just how their relationships are evolving, and I think things

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really picked up on these couple of episodes here. But yeah, overall,

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what's going on. And I'm actually really liking one dynamic

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two characters. I was thinking I wasn't gonna be very

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fond of it because I just I know what one

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character is in the I mean not from like, I'm

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sure there is a dynamic here where there this relationship

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between two characters in some comic book is much like this,

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and this is not the first time we've seen this

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kind of friendship unfold. But for me, I only have

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the one the one example of their relationship to look at,

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and it just it's not a positive relationship. So I

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don't have much of a backstory of basis on these characters.

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just to see this different spin on this, even though

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it's very similar to a story we've already seen. But again,

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I'm it's hard to really all along with what I'm

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putting down because I'm being so mysterious speak speaking of riddles. Yeah,

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so I'll just bring it up when we get into spoilers.

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But Yeather, than that, I think it's a great show,

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and I think anyone that it just if you love

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Spider Man, you've got to be watching the show. And

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if you're a big fan of Marvel, another reason, just

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get into this show because it's super frickin awesome. I

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think it's continuing off of this hot streak that we

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had with X Men ninety seven. Yeah, just coming off

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of that. So anyways, we're gonna get this some spoilers. Now,

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So where do you want to start? You want to

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go episode episode? Do you want to combine everything and

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just get into it.

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Speaker 2: Where do you feel you can go episode by episode?

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I mean, I feel like I usually bleed into you know,

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other episodes when I do it this way, but I'll

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try my best to keep it contained. But yeah, Episode three,

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Secret Identity Crisis, Peter deals with the fallout of his secret.

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Oh yeah, of his secret revealed. Meanwhile, Lone's perfect life

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falls apart. Yeah, I mean, starting basically where we uh

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left off from from last week. We start with just

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Peter interacting with Norman, and I will set like I

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feel like we were predicting what could have how that

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interaction was going to go. I feel like you mentioned

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him like being really I don't know, cordial towards him,

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and like, yeah, you say, my my son, and like,

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I'm really just a fan of what you're doing. I

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think you said that on the review if I remember

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that correctly, And that's basically exactly what he did. He's like, Yeah,

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I just want to support what you're doing and give

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you basically a blank check like the the Oscorp funds

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to do all these things and and let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's be the friends.

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Speaker 2: By the way, oh man, Yeah, like fifty bucks for.

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Speaker 1: Like chicken shank or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's all one seventy five, and one of them, Peter

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got a few, so he was his feasted. I respect it.

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I was just surprised that it was going this way

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because I I pretty much I feel like every time

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I've seen Norman it's been pretty nefarious from from the

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get go. And you know, of course, like Willem Dafoe's version,

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like he starts friendly towards Peter, but I don't know,

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I just feel like it's so hard to look past

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like the crazy goblin of what that character becomes. I

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don't I don't really ever see him as being like

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like a longer period of time working with Peter, or

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at least that he knows like the Spidy identity. I

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think just all of those factors together was really surprising,

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and I'm really digging it. I like it. I don't

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think it's gonna last forever. I definitely think something's gonna happen. Yeah,

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we'll get into that, so, but yeah, I think something

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is going to happen that turns him to maybe the

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extreme that will lead to Peter clashing with him and

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potentially Harry as well. But uh, yeah, I just think

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the initial setup of Norman being kind of the guy

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in the chair and like pretty much doing like what

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Tony does for Tom Hollands Spider Man, of having like

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the Stark tech. Now he's got the oz Corp tech

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where he can have these these fancy suits and uh, yeah,

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I wasn't this episode where they do the the suit mashups.

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and uh just kind of trial running all the suits,

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I was really good. And yeah, I think just because

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Norman is such a such an intense individual at least

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just how he's portrayed in the different iterations of of

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of I almost said Peter Pan of Peter, Peter Parker

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and Spider Man. I think I just really expected him

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to be very villainous right of the gate. And I

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I like the the nice guy Norman, I I like,

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I like the twist that it has.

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the relationship I was alluding to where I don't know

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any other relationship between Norman and Peter side of the

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Raimi films, where you just have, like he said, this

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very nefarious, nefarious and evil sinister goblin who's just like

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attack his heart kind of living his daily motto. So

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it's really nice to see this different take on him.

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Osbourne Tony Stark kind of vibe. He feels very much

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different from Tony Stark and the way he admires Peter,

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where Tony Stark was, Hey, I want you to be better. Like, yes,

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Tony gave him a suit and was letting him do

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his thing, but it's just a it's a very different

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type of support where this guy's like, hey, whatever you want,

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name it and it's yours, where Tony was like, hey, like,

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all these things you want, but you got to earn it,

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you can't just have it. So there's two different levels

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of guidance here, and I like that we're getting this

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different take on it. And again we're getting a very

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reluctant Peter when it comes to it too, which which

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I like. He's only only doing it because he sees

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all these past do bills on at May's desk and

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he wants more of those lamb shanks or chicken viewers

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wherever he's ordering. So there's some of that, but yeah,

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everything with the with the suits is that was a

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lot of fun. That was really cool. I like that,

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and I like how it's paralleling too, which we'll get

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more into a Lonnie right his kind of dynamic. It

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seems like both him and Peter are on this this

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pathway forward, but opposite ends of the of the spectrum,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a that's a big, big tragedy that's

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going to be coming to us, but we won't we

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won't talk about that yet. What else happened in this episode?

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two interesting individuals, like the couple, basically the Bonnie and

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Clyde individuals that have I don't know. I think initially

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when I saw like the electricity attached to the property,

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I'm like, oh, is this gonna be like a shocker

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or something like that twist on the character. But no,

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it just seems like they got some tech, which I

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would imagine is from mister doctor Octavius himself, who we

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I don't think it was this episode. We see him

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a little bit later on, but yeah, I know, it

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was really sweet shots like when they're popping off and

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attacking Peter. I just thought the animation design was just

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so beautiful. I thought it was like Chef's kiss, the

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way that she was just dancing around with the with

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the blades, and just the effects of him like dodging

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all their attacks. Like just yeah, I completely was eating

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my words when any criticisms that I had on the

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animation choice. I just think it fits so well in

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those actions scene and it just looks so beautiful with

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the uh yeah, just like the neon lights that they had.

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villain to have Spider Man kind of dealing with. And

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then of course out of that it was revealed that, yeah,

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maybe he's better off having someone in his ear, you know,

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like providing some support being that person in the chair.

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So yeah, I liked all of that for many different reasons.

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But yeah, I thought it was a fun you know,

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lower tier villain to clash with our Spider Man here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I thought I thought at first

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that it was it was well, I was trying to

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figure out who the bad guy was that was supplying

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them this stuff, and of course after the fact, when

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we see who's really behind it, it makes sense. But

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it was just super weird when they put the money

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in the dumpster and then this thing grows arms and

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crawls up the building and walks away. Its like, this

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seems very counterproductive. There was their case with their weapons

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in it, so that was that was that. But yeah,

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I felt like they could have been a little bit smarter.

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They felt like really dumb criminals because like Spider around

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was their cops. They're like, Oh, we're gonna go hit

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some more stores and robberies. It's like, man, you guys

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gotta like hit one and bounce and like play this

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off tactically. But that was not the case. He was

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basically like Quicksilver, and she was like I don't even

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know what you call her an equivalent of, but she

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was slashing, he was running.

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Speaker 2: Kind of her her blades kind of remind me of

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Silock from X then the purple neon blade things, and

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then yeah, I definitely like Quicksilver. My mind was going, like,

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I think it's McCary from h from Eternals, like the

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Fast Lady m Yeah, she didn't protect for that, but anyways,

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cool anything else on that, I was gonna talk about

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the Lonnie stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, that was just enclosing. I just I liked

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when Norman just chimed in there and he was like

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walking at every street Camel Spider Man, and it's like

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I tapped into your radio, my satellite, and I'm gonna

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help you do this. Spider Man like just caught me

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off guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I And like I pretty sure this is

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where he was talking about the Cecovia Chords and everything

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that was going on too with the Avengers. I thought

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that was really cool them just talking about that, even

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though this is like a like a different multiverse or whatever.

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I just think it's such a cool thing that like

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we're in this era of the MCU. That's like it's

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so established that like they could be talking about something

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like this going on, and even if it is a

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different multiverse, like we know exactly what that means. You know.

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It's it's like you're reading a comic book and they're

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addressing something that happened in like some completely different issue

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that like had a it was a big event, but like,

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well I don't know, I don't I don't know all

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those deeds. Like it's just it's just kind of fun

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when things like that get mentioned. It's like, well, I

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know exactly about the Cecovia A Chords and the way

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that they're talking about Cap, and like even Nico is like, yeah, though,

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like I like, yeah, I always liked Cap, but like

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even even what he's doing, I'm paraphrasing horribly, but just

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basically making it a little bit of a great area

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on like what a true good hero is and it's

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not just a guy in a suit that saves a day.

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if you're a super now like you have to actually

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register and that's just kind of the way that the rules,

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like how the law is played out in this universe.

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So it's it's fun that we're still even though it's

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differ multiverse, we're still staying true to like the rules

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of I don't know, rules of engagement with how we

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handle superheroes. I just thought it was a really fun

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thing and I'm curious where it's gonna go and like

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what extent of are we going to be, you know,

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like having a Cap that's like on the run right now,

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like in this timeline, Like is that the thing that

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I'm not saying it's gonna be a big main villain

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that we're interacting with. But like, is there gonna be

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some crossover because of course that's happened in the past

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and other animated shows X Men happen all the time.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, well said, uh, it is funny how

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the Secovia Accords is like that, that familiar crossover point.

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You think they would change it up the dynamic of

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a little bit, Like, I mean, the the Avengers the

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same in this universe, could be different members. The Cycovia

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Tony is the one who opposes it in caps on

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that side of it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't know all the details. Well, actually

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they did mention that like Cap did it to help

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out his buddy, so then that would be pretty much

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the same disease. I mean, everything that they're painting it

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out to be seemed to be pretty identical to uh,

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the good old six one six, Timeline and even Ultron.

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They mentioned Ultron how they built it and then they

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had to destroy it, and it was just like, yeah,

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self inflicted injury essentially, So it seems pretty true, although

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obviously there's character differences.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing when we never see Norman in

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the six one six, aside from the one pulled from

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the Raimy Verse. Yeah, so, I mean, as far as

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I know, like this whole universe could fit. Just the

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difference obviously is that this Peter Parker is not the

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same Peter Parker as the one in six one six

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based on his suit, his starter suited and then obviously

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the advanced suits that he's got now. But it I mean,

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it would otherwise track, at least in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, he was in the Multiverse movie somewhere,

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you know that, or the Spider Verse movie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, was this one in the Spider Verse movie.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just saying you could probably like stop a

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frame and there'd be like a million Spider Man on

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the screen, be like, oh, he's probably in there at

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some point.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree.

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Speaker 2: Even going forward, like beyond this, I could very much

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see some of these characters pop into the next Spider

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Verse movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or retroactively they just take the animation of

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this one and just put him in there and the

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movie is out streaming whatever. Really no, right?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah? Cool? Uh yeah, Lonnie here, you know he

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has to rush home. This poor guy man, he just

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seems like such a standout guy. He's helping out his buddy.

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He's super pumped that they're agatting a plus's they're buying.

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He's buying Peter's lunch for him, sacrificing his own nutrition

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for it, and then gets the call us to go home,

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way to the world on his shoulders. Gets home, you know,

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the police are the front doors. Younger brothers getting into

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some gang related activities and he has to go save

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his brother and basically just do a trade, sign a

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deal with the devil with his brother's you know, freedom

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for himself. He's part of the ten Street Gang or

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the one ten Gang or something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird name. I couldn't tell you. One hundred

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and tenth or something like that.

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Speaker 2: The five oh first, we'll just call it. But yeah,

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he's part of this gang now, and I don't think

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it's gonna be something that he's ever gonna get out

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of now. You know, Like at the end of the

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last episode there, they gave him his tombstone name, which

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I was curious what type of villain he was gonna

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eventually become, not that I know called it right away

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that he's going to be a villain, but just with

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how it was progressing from this episode throughout the next

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two episodes as well, I just assumed it's gonna be

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like a very tragic like villain origin story or something.

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And then yeah, I was just curious if it was

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going to be I don't know, a Prowler or like

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one of those characters. But we got Tombstone, which is

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pretty b TI your villain. In my mind, maybe I'm

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missing out on some like really deep Tombstone story, but

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this might go down is the deepest Tombstone villain arc

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of all time. So what do you think about this?

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I know it crosses over throughout the whole next episodes,

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but we're just kind of talking about him anyways, So

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whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, again, my only ties to this character is the

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brief appearance in these Spider Man across the Spider Verse.

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I guess not into the Spider Verse movie because he

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appears in there with Kingpin. That's it. I do not

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know much else about this character, but he has a

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villain in Uh Spider Man two? Is he not?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Are you talking about he's like the first the

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first one. I didn't in the first one. For the

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second one.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm getting my facts wrong. I've not played either

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of them, so I.

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Speaker 2: Can okay, he's definitely in the first one for sure.

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I just can't okay, I don't think he's in the

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second one, okay, pretty much, saying though, he's like he's

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like kind of a b villain, like he's he's not

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the main head hauncho, which he never really is.

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Speaker 1: M m. Yeah, he's just kind of second to the

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big boss, uh, which is what he is here too.

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I mean, he's not the big boss. He's seems like

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he's making his way up there.

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Speaker 2: Could go that way. They could very much go that way.

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Speaker 1: He could go that way. Yeah, I don't know. I

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don't know how exactly I feel about about him. I

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liked him being a good guy because he was having

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like a good time and he was definitely he was, yeah,

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trying to buy lunch and you know, card was being

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declined and afford it all that jazz.

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Speaker 2: Fucking lunch lady, Like, just let him take it, man,

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like Jesus, Yeah, Like, this guy's clearly down on his luck.

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Just let him take the fucking slog whatever the hell

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they're they're eating there.

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Speaker 1: I'm super pissed. At the brother though. I mean, he

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gets arrested by the cops and then Lonnie goes into

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his room and he's gone. He just goes back to

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what play cards and go Fish's fucking den Like what

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is this kid?

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Speaker 2: He'll never catch me here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. So it's just like he's right done.

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But even then, so like in the situation, he's like,

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oh yeah, he doesn't want to go, but then Lonnie

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convinces him. He's like okay, okay, fine, and then Lonnie,

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you know, he gets caught, like oh, I'll offer myself

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up instead, and then his brother's like, no, I want

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my brother, let's go. Let's go, Like oh god damn.

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Then even when the guy they say like, oh, your

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brother seeked us out, all this kind of stuff just

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mumbo jumbo. Just that bothers me. But now here Lonnie

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is Lonnie is now remember the gang.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's why it hurts so much, right,

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And I think that's why in the end, it's gonna

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be such an amazing arc that we're gonna go on

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with this character and amazing in the It's gonna be

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well written but horrible to witness and see, just because

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it seems like he really is that strong pillar of

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his family. Like he just seems like he's the he's

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the one anyone can lean on, put all the weight

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on his shoulders, and he's able to just do it.

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I mean, he's doing that in so many aspects of

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his life, whether it's a yeah, his family life, his sports,

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his athletics, he's got scholarship which is gonna go away.

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You know, He's like good old Deborah Morgan in Dexter

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Original Sin, you know, like just saying about it, like

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they got this really nice pathway to get out of

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a certain situation, but that's just not gonna be the reality.

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And then like what's if he goes full villain now?

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And like I'm not saying he's ready to go murder people,

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but like it seems like this was a big step

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in that direction of him starting to maybe see a

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seek solace or family or support or something with this gang,

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or maybe just admiration, which is I don't know now

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that I say that, Like it's nothing he didn't already have,

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whether it was at school or friends or family or

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anything like that. I don't know. So, yeah, I need

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a little bit more screen time. I guess between him

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and the gang and like what draws him away from

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like being the good guy to being the bad guy,

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Like if he's just forcing the situation, I mean, the game,

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the name Tombstone, I imagine there's gonna be more that

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00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:38,039
comes out of it from that. But yeah, I just

473
00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:42,799
think it's a really interesting start to Tombstone's career here.

474
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:45,319
And I'm very interested in what's gonna happen next because

475
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,240
if if next episode happens and he's just like a

476
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,200
dick to Pearl and he's like a dick to Peter

477
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000
and like it's so like unwarranted, then I'm gonna have

478
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:53,839
to like obviously dock up points from that way. I

479
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,160
just think what they're setting up it has potential to

480
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,720
be a really really compelling villain arc.

481
00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: I hope we don't get that scene where you know,

482
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,519
he does something to Pearl and Peter's like, Lonnie, what's

483
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:08,160
going on man? And he turns like names not Lonnie,

484
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,200
so like something super corny like that. No, I want

485
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,000
to fight you, Lannie.

486
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to fight me neither.

487
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, none of that, none of that, Yeah, none of that.

488
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,079
Speaker 2: Agreed.

489
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: Let's let's jump to a quick ad break here before

490
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,759
we carry on and we are back Where were you

491
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:30,680
sending us there? Kirk?

492
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: Next episode number four hitting the big time, we got

493
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,119
Peter and Norman work through creative differences while Lonnie undergoes

494
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,279
a loyalty test. So yeah, this is the big suit

495
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,319
mash up episode, which I just thought was lots of

496
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,480
lots of fun. I love the way that it started

497
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:54,119
with Peter just doing his like super like socially anxious

498
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,799
way of of doing his science pitch to the Good

499
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,400
Dog for Women and him just tear it apart and like,

500
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:05,559
you know, to doctor Women's like credit. Like he is

501
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,240
basically teaching Peter that, like, to be in this field,

502
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,920
like you do have to talk loud and like confident

503
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,480
your ideas because there's always going to be the loud

504
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,880
professor in the room that's just criticizing whatever you have.

505
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,400
And if you don't believe in what you have, like

506
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,079
how are you supposed to sell it to someone to

507
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119
like invest in it? So I actually really really like

508
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,680
that scene from that character's perspective. And then I mean

509
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,599
there's some good comedy in here that sprinkled out, but

510
00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:32,240
I just love the sequence when Peter leaves like, Okay,

511
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:34,799
it's kind of weird that Norman's always asked for Peter.

512
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:39,000
But whatever, he leaves and then amideas show comes up,

513
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,079
he's like, all right, Peter, get ready to take some

514
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,640
notes on your way out, and then he just has

515
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,119
like the dance music like playing, and he's just like

516
00:26:46,559 --> 00:26:50,119
doing like a super I don't know, you're seeing parks

517
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,440
and rec Do you know Tom Haverford when he does

518
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,799
this whole like like just Big Entertainment twenty seven, whatever

519
00:26:57,759 --> 00:26:59,920
the hell it's called. Yeah, uh, And just like the

520
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,240
those types of shows with just the loud music, that's

521
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,559
what it reminded me of him doing his science. He

522
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,640
pitched there and it it just made me laugh. I'm

523
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640
really loving the comp like the whole show is in

524
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,599
comedy throughout. I think the way that it's used though,

525
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,599
it's really effective. For me. I find this show really

526
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:17,160
really funny.

527
00:27:17,519 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I like that scene with the Professor

528
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,400
Whitman and him just thrilling the shit out of Peter.

529
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,920
But it's funny because Peter, while he's quiet here and

530
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,759
he's mumbling when he's his alter ego is Spider Man,

531
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960
He's the jokes are on point as puns, he's landing it,

532
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:38,039
he's loud, he's vocal, and he's he's such a different character.

533
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,640
And then yeah, he turns back into like bumbling Peter

534
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:49,200
Parker and whatnot. I think even when he's talking to Norman,

535
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,960
he has that bumbling like d D with just being

536
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,400
Peter Parker. But I think it was again last episode

537
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,880
where Norman's in his office and Peter just is hanging

538
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,240
upside down, is like.

539
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Hey Norman, and Norman's like, wow, what.

540
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 1: Do you scare the shit out of him? So stuff

541
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,920
like that. Yeah, it's that humor is very funny and

542
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,480
just those differences between the two of them. But uh, yeah,

543
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:13,039
I'm liking everything. I'm glad that we're seeing more of

544
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,640
Peter back at Ozcorp and him just kind of sticking

545
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,160
around there and it's gonna lead to some fun, fun stuff.

546
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,039
And Harry was the next episode. They brought him into

547
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:24,279
the fold or this one.

548
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: At the end of this one, the end of this one,

549
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:34,200
right right, Yeah, and then after that we get the

550
00:28:34,319 --> 00:28:37,079
suit sequence. I mean, it's a big part of this episode.

551
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,960
He's trying out and I did like that actually, like

552
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,839
he was doing certain crime fighting, like with a suit on.

553
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,240
It wasn't just like a mashup of him just trying

554
00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,119
like a shit ton of suits, like he really, you know,

555
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,720
gave it a go, and just the whole breakdown of like,

556
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,039
you know, you got great demographics with this look. It's

557
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,839
like I have demographics like this is amazing. So just

558
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,079
that side of it I thought was really fun. Very

559
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,279
I was very much thinking of The Incredibles though when

560
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:07,400
I first saw that suit. I'm like, man, capes, like

561
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,759
capes is never a good idea. And then yeah, first

562
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,000
first sequence, this is just good humor. It seems like

563
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,359
the exact same like bully robber guy from the earlier episode,

564
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:21,079
the guy with the glasses that takes the lady's purse,

565
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480
and then you know, Spider Man dealt with him pretty

566
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,519
easily first time round comes down here with the cape,

567
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:29,799
gets caught and then they just beat him like a pinota.

568
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,240
I just laugh when he's like, are those those help

569
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:35,559
me get down? Like just they're doing really good job

570
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:39,799
with all the quirks that Spider Man's delivering or equip sorry,

571
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:43,640
not quirks QUI So I thought all that was lots

572
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,599
of fun. And then yeah, you just went through the

573
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,279
different suits was there one night. He liked a lot

574
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:52,559
that you're you're bummed he's not gonna try.

575
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, like I his original jersey, look,

576
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,599
it really really grew on me. I don't like how

577
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,400
his webshooters got the cores dangling from that, but I

578
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,759
just love his his jersey a lot. But to be honest,

579
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,799
I think that his suit that he he ended up

580
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,480
going with at the end, I was driving with it. It's

581
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,799
like a reverse venom color scheme. Is that what is

582
00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:21,960
actually called the anti Venom?

583
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah? So in like Spider Man two in that game,

584
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,079
that's like the last well, I don't know if it's

585
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:29,400
the last suit that you get, but that's like a

586
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,839
big story suit that he gets, like the anti Venom suit,

587
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,759
and it looks pretty much identical to that. I think

588
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:38,960
it's like a little bit more biochemical in nature the

589
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,039
one in the game versus this one, but the color

590
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,440
schemes like identical. And there is a character called anti

591
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,920
Venom that it's the same thing. He's like all white

592
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,079
and then has like black detailing. So it's just the

593
00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:50,960
reverse of venom.

594
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,319
Speaker 1: So is this supposed is that the only reason why

595
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:55,359
it's called anti venom is because the reverse color scheme

596
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,559
or does it actually have like reverse preventative symbiote.

597
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like story reasons. I think the one in

598
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,880
the game is might be different. Sorry, it might differ

599
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,839
a little bit from the like comic book rendition of it.

600
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,400
I'm not too familiar with that version more so just

601
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160
what I played through the game. But yeah, the game

602
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,920
it's like it's made to defeat symbiote essentially, But yeah,

603
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,359
I'm not too sure. And obviously there's no mention of

604
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:21,079
that at all in this It was just just a

605
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,920
cool looking suit. And I'm such a sucker for different

606
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,839
outfits and suits. Obviously the games do that so well.

607
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,279
There's such a great variety of suits in there, So

608
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,480
I yeah, I just love seeing this little mashup and

609
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:34,720
the next spidy game, Like, man, let's get all these

610
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,240
suits in there, let's do it. The Cape one too.

611
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: The Cape one, Yeah, well, that that dusk one that

612
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:43,599
reminded me kind of like night Monkey.

613
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: A little bit, Yeah, very night Monkey.

614
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,559
Speaker 1: The one, the Hornet one, that one seemed a little

615
00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:54,079
bit it gave me ant Man vibes in a weird way.

616
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,039
But like maybe like more RoboCop vibes.

617
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: M with like the the helicopter thing that he on

618
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,319
his Yeah.

619
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: And the Prodigy one. That one just felt very I

620
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,759
mean it's very cool, but very far from Spider Man.

621
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,319
That just felt like a doctor strange.

622
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,599
Speaker 2: I love though, just like the like just the banga

623
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,440
that they had between the two of them, and it's

624
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,240
like it's like, am I even Spider Man anymore? It's like, well,

625
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:24,720
what's what's making you stay Spider Man? You know, like

626
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,160
like we can basically think about like the marketing of

627
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,480
this guy, Like you know, you got the gyro copper

628
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,400
thing that you can just fly around with, which just

629
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,599
completely defeats the idea of him being Spider Man. It's just, yeah,

630
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,559
some some good humor in there for me. Mm hmmmm hm.

631
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Cool.

632
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I already said I love the look of all

633
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480
the suits. I thought they were really fun. I love

634
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:51,960
the sequence when the little girl loses her balloon. I

635
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,400
don't even I'm assuming this is like a very iconic

636
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:58,880
Spider Man thinks to me, it's very iconic, but uh,

637
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,680
like the little there's always like a little kid losing

638
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:05,440
like a red balloon. I'm more familiar with the balloon actually,

639
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160
being like a Spider Man balloon and then and I

640
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,119
think it's iconic just because I've seen a Spider Man

641
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,880
sorry a Venom Colm book cover of him like basically

642
00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,920
preying on like a child losing a balloon like that,

643
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,519
So like just that that imagery is really iconic to me.

644
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,720
I think it appeared in the Ultimate Spider Man Game

645
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,839
two back in the day, and it was great to

646
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,480
just see because it's always attributed to me like a

647
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,839
really like monster like event that's going on. And then

648
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,559
of course it progressed into Spider Man looking like a monster.

649
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:40,920
It's like here you go a little girl, he's a

650
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,119
balloon and she's just like screaming in his face, like

651
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,079
get away from my child, you freak. Like it was

652
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,839
just again more humor that was working for me.

653
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,519
Speaker 1: I did not know there's this whole backstory of the

654
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:53,680
balloon situation.

655
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like again like maybe I'm making it into

656
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,720
a bigger thing than it is, but just to me,

657
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,039
it's just every time I see a balloon, I'm like

658
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,960
waiting for venom or something to appear. So it's, uh,

659
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,320
just just some great imagery there, but nice, Yeah, what

660
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,599
else do we have in this episode? We had Lonnie

661
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:16,880
doing his Jimmy Chonga run to Lafrescas. At first, I

662
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,360
thought this female lady was gonna be like Scorpion, like

663
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,559
this version of Scorpion that they're gonna gender bend them

664
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,000
just because she has the you know, scorpion tattoo. It's

665
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,599
revealed that that's the gang Scorpions. And we actually have

666
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,360
a Mac Gargain I think is what they called him,

667
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880
and uh, yeah, he wasn't really in this episode. Is

668
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,360
more so just pretty much just having Big Dawn get

669
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:47,320
Lonnie to go on this little just death trip essentially

670
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,480
right like it just kind of put his name in danger.

671
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,440
Really dickish moved, but that's what gang leaders usually do.

672
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:58,280
And yeah, I don't know, not much else between them

673
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,920
beyond that. Oh, we had the like the bank robbery

674
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,119
scene thing with which with a character that I'm like

675
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,280
ninety percent sure is the Rhino, like the driver character.

676
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,079
He's the exact same face that the original Rhino had

677
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,320
from like the sixties show and like the original comic books.

678
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,119
So I don't know, and I'm pretty sure the name

679
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,400
that they said is his like actual name, like the

680
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,840
character of the Rhino. I also just thought it was

681
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000
kind of funny how he's driving the van that has

682
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,480
like essentially a Rhino horn on the front of it,

683
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,639
and he's like ramming through the vehicles. So I thought

684
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,639
that was just a fun little play on that. It's

685
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:38,639
not the last time we're gonna see that character, because

686
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:41,039
he's not dead or anything. You know, he's just going

687
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:43,000
away to prison. And they made a point of emphasis

688
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,400
like him in Spider Man or even now, like next

689
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,440
time I see you, you better not be uh, you know,

690
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,360
looking for trouble. But yeah, I'm like ninety percent sure

691
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,599
that is the actual Rhino character. And even if it's not,

692
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,000
I thought it was a fun little appearance. Wow, I

693
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,760
take that back. It better be the Rhino horn. I'm

694
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,920
gonna be disappointed. But yeah, anything on that scene or

695
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,599
those characters.

696
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: Uh, I was trying to figure out the name. Uh

697
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,960
did you happen to know what the name was the character?

698
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: I'll get it.

699
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I was curious here because I was looking at Matt

700
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:19,239
Gargan and just how he's connected like to Adrian Tombs

701
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:24,000
and and whatnot. I was curious what this guy's name

702
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,559
wasn't Hopefully, if they do Rhino, they make him very

703
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,599
much more comic book accurate in comparison to Craven's.

704
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Right, these are very Russian names. So one of them

705
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,559
is Mikhael cis Sevich Sisovich.

706
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,639
Speaker 1: I like, I got that accent in there too, when

707
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:44,719
you say it.

708
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: Just comes out naturally the letters are aligned. And Dmitri

709
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:56,440
Smirdyakov Dmitri. That's that's not our boy, Craven, is it?

710
00:36:56,559 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: That sounds he looks.

711
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Like a very Craven type character the way that he's drawn. Lease,

712
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:07,960
So like either Craven or who is Dmitri Chameleon? I'm

713
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,480
thinking of that movie now, and I swear there was

714
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,480
a Dmitri mentioned unless that was Papa.

715
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,519
Speaker 1: Oh, Dmitri is the k is a chameleon?

716
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so there you go. So I'm I mean,

717
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,519
it probably doesn't say their last names on there, but

718
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,159
I'm gonna say ninety percent sure Rhino is that character.

719
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719
And then uh yeah, why not, let's get chameleon in there.

720
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,679
And we got the unicorn. Now that's not our lady. Oh,

721
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,840
and then there was another one like rock Sana or

722
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,519
something like that was the the fire Yeah, Roxana Volkov

723
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480
that was the the other female in there. That one

724
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:46,280
like the punk hair but uh yeah, a gang of

725
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,239
you know, some misfits that they're not completely dispatched, and

726
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,360
I'm sure we won't be seeing the last of them

727
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,039
here m hm, yeah's got doc ok here at the

728
00:37:56,119 --> 00:38:01,760
end too, with our one surviving character. Yeah, that's where

729
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,920
she gets the Unicorn hat thing.

730
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:05,639
Speaker 1: The helmet.

731
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah, okay, it's got everything on this episode. Yeah.

732
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:19,119
The next one is episode five Unicorn unleashed. Peter makes

733
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,679
a new friend. Meanwhile Lonnie finds himself in the sights

734
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,880
of a dangerous gang. Yes, that new friend, of course,

735
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:33,280
being Harry, mister Osborne's son that was revealed at the

736
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,199
end of episode four. We go to a nice little

737
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,079
spidy gang assembling here. Do you think we're gonna be

738
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:45,880
adding another character, like maybe a Nico Minoru in that

739
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,119
that mix. Ah, I think it's inevitable. I think it's inevitable.

740
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,039
Speaker 1: I think it's inevitable. I mean everyone else is learning

741
00:38:53,079 --> 00:38:56,360
his identity. I mean he already had that vision. Well,

742
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,119
it was more like Norman just saying like like, oh,

743
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:01,599
I know your Spider Man, and then he was like

744
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,000
with Niko and she's like, oh, I know you're Spider

745
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,760
Man him, But that was him just kind of being

746
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,719
tormented by his own imagination a little bit. He's not

747
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,000
really doing a good job at keeping this a secret

748
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,320
because yeah, he horrible, Yeah, horrible. Harry found out last episode,

749
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,440
so I think it's only a matter of time before

750
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,159
Nico finds out as well.

751
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:30,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of just hoping that happens because

752
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,280
I feel like the only relevance that that character has

753
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,480
is like anytime that Peter is like on screen with her,

754
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,719
other than like maybe she calls like, hey, why don't

755
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,480
you at this party with me?

756
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm pissed off, but not really, I'll see you tomorrow.

757
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,599
So I'm just interested in that character, so I want

758
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:49,360
to see more of her. So of course, to get

759
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000
more screen time, I would want her to be involved

760
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,679
with the day to day actions of everything that's going on.

761
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,599
I mean, Harry kind of makes sense, I guess, because

762
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:01,079
we're mentioning Norman just you know, yeah, I'm using my

763
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:04,199
satellite to track you. I'm hacking in all these cameras,

764
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:05,880
Like how the fuck does this guy have time to

765
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,920
do this? You know, if he's like probably the busiest

766
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,760
man in the world, like running like one of the

767
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,800
biggest companies. How the fun does he have time to

768
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,679
just sit in at his office and watch Spider Man

769
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,320
fight crime and support him undisturbed, you know, like no

770
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
one like being around him or anything. So it makes

771
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,719
sense Harry will be helping out a little bit more

772
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,440
with that. But I would still love to see Nico

773
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880
a part of the crew, just because she's an interesting

774
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,599
character and I'm really liking their version of her. I

775
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,079
think she's she's a fun character.

776
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Who do you think like we're gonna

777
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:41,280
get with? Well, do you think Pearl's gonna be the

778
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,239
one that's gonna be like connecting with Peter here? I

779
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,920
just I don't necessarily see it, but maybe because to

780
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,320
relationship wise, Yeah, yeah, yeah, romance wise, because like Nico

781
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,119
and Peter, they're just friends, Harry, they're just friends, so

782
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,639
that leavest Pearl. But I think, I don't know, with

783
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:03,719
Tombstone kind of like becoming Tombstone, maybe that ends their

784
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,360
relationship and Peter's left shoulder to cry on.

785
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:11,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm not really needing like a

786
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,559
love interests right now in the in the story, it's

787
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,039
always a fun dynamic I guess to have, especially with

788
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:22,400
Peter bean like fresh high school kids. He drops the

789
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,960
line to Norman with like the when he drops do

790
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:27,199
not disturb mode, you know, locks the whole room. It's like,

791
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,599
I need this for it bring ladies home. And he's like, well,

792
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,559
maybe one day when I when I actually do that.

793
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,360
But I don't know. I'm I'm like, I guess Pearl

794
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,039
could stick around. I feel like when the inevitable tragedy

795
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,199
of Tombstone happens, like she'll be really upset and then

796
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:48,079
Peter can be their kind of support her. But I

797
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:50,480
don't know, I just don't see much for like Pearl

798
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,159
going forward through throughout the show of being like an

799
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,039
interesting love interest, like especially when you're thinking of the

800
00:41:56,039 --> 00:42:00,559
Gwenn Stacy's, the Mary Jane's. I mean, I'm just saying it.

801
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,519
You know, we got I'm ninety two percent sure we

802
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,119
got Sidney Moon out there swinging around trying to figure

803
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,920
out her own spidy powers right now and maybe getting

804
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,400
that aroma. So yeah, that would be my preferred ship

805
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,119
maybe if we were to go that road.

806
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: But Norman's gonna be hooking Sydney Moon up with some

807
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,880
suits here.

808
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm nothing but time on my hands, not that

809
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,679
Harry's dealing with Spider Man. I'm just I'm hacking into

810
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:28,800
everything to find silk where the Sinney Moon character is. Yeah,

811
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,639
actually talking about Norman, I forgot to mention this. We

812
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:33,599
already talked about him, but I thought it was really

813
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:38,239
interesting him bringing the Cecovia accorded like attention to Peter

814
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,679
and just talking about like that's what Peter was thinking

815
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,599
out loud with of like well, should I like does

816
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:47,159
that involve me? Like, should I like basically declare that

817
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:49,719
I'm a superhero And it seems like Norman is very

818
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,599
much against that idea. He's like no, like, don't worry,

819
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,119
Like I got legal teams that can handle all this,

820
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,159
Like I think for now, we's just not worry about it.

821
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,559
I think that is probably like a big underlining maybe

822
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,039
you maybe like a I don't know, something that sticks

823
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:11,159
with Norman in the sense of like the Avengers initiative

824
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,639
isn't the right way to like stop crime or something,

825
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,199
and uh, maybe that would be like at an impasse

826
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,800
between the Avengers are bad, like like he's more on

827
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,679
the extreme side. Maybe Peters against that, and then maybe

828
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,599
that's what really breaks them apart. I don't know. Just

829
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:29,320
just the way that he was talking about the Avengers.

830
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,079
It just kind of planted a seed in my mind

831
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,119
of like, hm, I feel like this might be something

832
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:37,960
that he's pretty extreme on and it sticks with him.

833
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,920
But maybe I'm just reading into it. But I forgot

834
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,199
to mention that about Norman.

835
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:43,679
Speaker 1: I think you're you're onto something with that. I think

836
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,440
I think Norman probably likes the idea of having a

837
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,320
superhero under his own thumb, someone that he can, yeah,

838
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,880
not necessarily control, but someone that he can monopolize, where

839
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,559
as the government it basically has monopolized the Avengers with

840
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,320
the Cycovia Corps and other superheroes in general that have

841
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960
to come forward declare their status right as a superhero.

842
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,920
So I think it gives Norman more power. And I

843
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,000
think Norman Osborne has always been a man after power,

844
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,440
and not always in an evil sense, but just because

845
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
he's he's the leader of Oscorp. Right, so that's just

846
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:17,320
that's his m O for the most part.

847
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I was talking about Lonnie there.

848
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:28,800
We got a little bit of oh yeah, oh yeah,

849
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,719
we're starting with the Spider Man team. They're gonna be

850
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,280
working together. We got a little bit more hairy in

851
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,719
this episode. I like the sequence when Nico was like

852
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,000
interrogating Peter. It's like, how do you get how? Like

853
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:41,679
why that guy drive in your school? She's just like

854
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,679
shitting on the idea of him being like the celebrities,

855
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,519
Like why do you follow him? It's like, well, obviously

856
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:48,599
it's ironic, and I'm like, man, that is so funny.

857
00:44:48,679 --> 00:44:51,760
I feel like I, I, you know, air quote ironically

858
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
follow certain individuals. I'm like, who the fuck would follow

859
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:56,039
this person? And then I find myself following them, So

860
00:44:57,079 --> 00:45:00,360
that one struck deep Miss Nico. But it was a

861
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,559
funny scene nonetheless. And yeah, Harry's just a little bit

862
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,920
more popping around here. We learned that he's homeschooled, doesn't

863
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,360
really get much interaction sixteen years old. You're doing a

864
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,719
lot for a little sixteen year old. But yeah, he's

865
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,920
probably gonna be another one of her main cruise going forward.

866
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,480
What do you think about this version of Harry? Oh?

867
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,559
I like it.

868
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:28,599
Speaker 1: I mean he's a version that's kind of very very innocent. Again,

869
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:30,840
I like when he got saved in that first episode

870
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,239
by Peter spider Man. So I just think that this

871
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,280
is the baseline in the beginning of a good friendship.

872
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,280
And again, it's totally different from what I'm used to.

873
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,199
I'm used to Harry os when it's like I've nothing

874
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,039
left except Spider Man just just hating his guts, took

875
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:54,000
my father's love. Yeah, getting drunk and getting top. That's

876
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:55,920
the only version I know. So this is just a

877
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,719
great ulterior, ulterior alternative version. I just like seeing that.

878
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:03,519
I like knowing that Harry knows his identity and they're

879
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:07,440
they're a team. I would be totally down to see

880
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,320
Harry take up that mantle is Green Goblin Junior and

881
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,119
just get more of that Spider Man reaction where they're

882
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,880
both like teaming up against Sam Man and Venom you came.

883
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at that scene when he's all like

884
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,800
fucking beaten up and bloody. He just looks up and Harry's.

885
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: There, you can looks like just a.

886
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: Cave a little sooner.

887
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: What scene?

888
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. What else do we

889
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,440
have in here? Oh? Yeah, this is just more of

890
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:46,960
Lonnie basically making like, you know, go down this path,

891
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:50,360
stay with my football career, and like stay on that trajectory,

892
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,320
go down this path, and I'll never be able to

893
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,079
go to the NFL or anything like that, and he

894
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:58,960
chose crime and uh, I mean definitely not by his

895
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,000
choice or anything like that. But uh yeah, that was

896
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,800
a really hard scene to watch because it was just like, man, like,

897
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,880
all of this potential this guy could uh just have

898
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,880
going for him, it's just being pulled away from him.

899
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:14,480
And uh yeah, we didn't really see an interaction between

900
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,039
him or Dre, So I'm I'm really intrigued on how

901
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,440
that will go, and uh hopefully we actually get a

902
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,559
scene because that would be pretty crazy if we don't

903
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,519
get that addressed at all. Like Lonnie's just a death

904
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:26,880
sentence now he's got the Tombstone moniker and it's all

905
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,239
because of his younger brother trying to be a fucking

906
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,480
gangster or something in the streets. So yeah, yeah, I agree.

907
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,800
We had a big clash at the end gang Wars

908
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:46,480
basically Anchormen in the arm. Well it's Lonnie, right, Well

909
00:47:46,559 --> 00:47:49,920
Lonnie saves him. Yeah, didn't he take it in the

910
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:50,360
arm though?

911
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah he does. Sorry I thought I thought yeah,

912
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,559
because Big Donovan doesn't get hit at all.

913
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: I think he like, yeah, I don't know, he's just

914
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,840
beating the ship out of guys, those giant clubs that

915
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,719
he's got for hands, And it's funny because like his

916
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,280
facial structure, it's like like he's a much bigger man

917
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,119
than what Uncle Aaron was in uh Spider verse, but

918
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,079
like that version of the Prowler, but like just his

919
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,840
like his head with the beard. I'm like, man, this

920
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,119
guy's kind of given me Prowler vibes for some reason.

921
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,400
He's got like a purple hoodie with it too. That's

922
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,880
where and like before we even got like a tombstone

923
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,960
or anything like that, I'm like, man, is Lonnie gonna

924
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,440
be a Prowler?

925
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:26,599
Speaker 3: Like?

926
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,199
Speaker 2: Are we getting Prowler in here? I feel like that's

927
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,599
a very Miles Morales like centered thing. But I don't know.

928
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:36,639
I think it could very much happen have a Prowler

929
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:39,800
in here. I really like that villain. So I'm not

930
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,840
gonna I'm not gonna put like high percentage thoughts on

931
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,639
on who I think the Prowler could be or if

932
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,719
it's Big Donovan or whatnot. I kind of think the

933
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Big Donovan's just going to remain that, like he's not

934
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,360
gonna be this this villain or anything like how Kingpin

935
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,119
is or another super villain. I think it's just kinda

936
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:01,559
be Lonnie that like grows into the next tier of

937
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:04,400
a villain out of this game. Yeah, but we'll see

938
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:11,400
what happens, Yeah, I sure will. Harry commented on the

939
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suit at the end. It's very sterile, I think was

940
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the word that they use for it. And then he's like, yeah, no,

941
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like I really just want more red and blue, and

942
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they're like like Captain America. And then I just found

943
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:26,800
it so funny how in this world, like he's a big,

944
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,719
big Captain America fan, and like they're red and blue

945
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,880
as well. I guess Captain America's got some white in there,

946
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red white and blue. But I never once, like looking

947
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,480
at Spider Man, thought of like, man, it's kind of

948
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,239
like Captain America colors, Like never once until that he

949
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,880
mentioned it here, I'm like, oh wow, yeah, really red

950
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,599
and blue. But I don't know just the way that

951
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,920
it's designed. Usually I don't think of Captain America at all.

952
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,280
And I think Captain America, like Captain America without the shield.

953
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,320
Is that even Captain America just a super soldier, right

954
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,679
like unless he has the shield. I feel like that

955
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,360
is is the symbol that is Captain America. I mean

956
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,960
it is, it is his symbol. But uh yeah, anyways,

957
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,360
I'm just ranting about colors and supersuits here. But I

958
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,440
thought it was a funny scene and excited to see

959
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,599
that next version of the suit because it doesn't seem

960
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:15,039
like he's gonna be holding onto the white one for

961
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a while.

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00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: I agree. Cool.

963
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it was just the clash between the

964
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Unicorn lady and that we already talked about. Yeah, we

965
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960
kind of talked about everything, the football, the Gang Wars.

966
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:40,000
Gargin was ready to fucking murder Lonnie right the street

967
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,519
with that claw. I thought that was pretty bold, but

968
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he was gonna do it. But yeah, oh and then

969
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,480
just doc ok, we got a little bit more scenes

970
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:55,519
of him interacting with his lab rat guy, Like what's

971
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:59,079
his motivation here? He kind of talked about something, but

972
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,480
I misremember right now.

973
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: I felt like he just wanted to take over the

974
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city kind of a thing. Just the classic I think,

975
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so he's not building the power of the sun in

976
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the botmb of his hand.

977
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that they have like the original design

978
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,800
for him though, like just just the and the suit

979
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with the goggles like it's it's fantastic. I think it

980
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,000
looks so good. And again, like with the color palettes

981
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,639
that they have it it's it's like classically drawn but

982
00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:27,719
with like a modern coat of pain on it. With

983
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,679
the just just the palette that they're using, and with

984
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,800
the animation, it looks phenomenal. So I I love me

985
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,280
some good doc oc And uh yeah, I'm excited to

986
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see him get his his class.

987
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the arms come out, that'll be pretty cool.

988
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:43,239
I can't wait to see that fight scene, that fight scene. Yes,

989
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,199
it will be a lot of fun.

990
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting how we have like some villains that

991
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:50,480
are completely redesigned and then someone like that, it's like

992
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,079
just ripped right out of his original version. There's no

993
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,079
like special full like he doesn't have a different name.

994
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:59,840
He's the exact same down to the rope and goggles.

995
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,119
But I like it me too. I have nothing else

996
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:05,719
to say. I don't think I think we got it all.

997
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,719
I'm loving the show. I think it's fantastic. And yeah,

998
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
three episodes again next week. So this is kind of

999
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,119
the how they're going to end it here, because this

1000
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,159
was five, so six, seven, eight, and then there's eleven episodes.

1001
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:19,480
So yeah, it'll be two more batches, which is kind

1002
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,880
of crazy, like two only two more weeks, like only

1003
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,679
two more reviews that we'll have for the show. Next

1004
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:25,559
week is the penultimate.

1005
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a weird day. I'm to believe Travis

1006
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,239
and Dylan will be there for that. They're behind me.

1007
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:35,199
Speaker 2: Nothing five episodes back. It's just been you and me

1008
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,440
doing reviews for the last three months. That's that's. I

1009
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,880
don't know if I've been in a dream.

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,599
Speaker 1: Travis Fields, Travis comme out of retirement. What is this?

1011
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,760
He's just here. I don't know.

1012
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: No, he's too busy pushing this channel or something. The MMX.

1013
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,760
That's right, that's right.

1014
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: He'll be there for Dex's original Sin with you because

1015
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,320
I'll be nice. I'll be on hiatus then, but.

1016
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: I'll do the service of just hearing all of his

1017
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,840
ante Arabian.

1018
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna get fucking grilled like Peter and the Professor Wilcox.

1019
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:16,960
I'll I got him good last night because the newscast

1020
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went on for like almost three hours and I dropped

1021
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,079
that ye and holy shit, it scared him.

1022
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 2: He wasn't ready for it already.

1023
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Speaker 1: But yeah, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning in

1024
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,079
to this week's episode of keeyk first podcast review of

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Spider Man. We will be back, as Kirkland alluded to

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there next week to continue on with the spoilers review

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of this fantastic show. So until then, you can find

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us uh yeah, all over the interwebs, the interconnection, and

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we'll see you soon.

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Speaker 2: Have a good one bye.