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Speaker 1: It's time to talk some college basketball on Cougar Sports

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It is time for little college basketball Cougar Sports byu

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heading to the NCAA Tournament March. Matt news is upon

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as they got that last six seed. They're gonna be

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taking on NC State Andwver Texas and then hopefully fingers

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crossed Kenzaga. That's what we'd love to see. They're out

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in Portland. They're gonna be on Portland. They got what

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seven days of rest prior to tip off there and

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they're playing their some of their best ball that we've

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seen in a while. Hopefully they survive. In advance, I

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put out a pole Cougar Nation chime in ono. How

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far do you think this Cougar basketball team can go?

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Is it a one and done season? Is it a

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Round a thirty two type of team? Is it a

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Sweet sixteen or an Elite eight or better type of season?

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Speaker 3: For you? Where are your expectations and why?

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on down to rubys In and Bryce Canyon National Park.

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Let's talk some hoop. Let's talk some Cougar basketball with

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the One, the Only, Jonathan Devenard, the Brazilian bomber.

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Speaker 3: He's on the line right now. What's up? JT?

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Speaker 2: And I'm a fanchise.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually too far away from Bryce Canyon right now.

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I'm driving back from California from a weekend tournament and

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I'm literally probably about an hour away from from rubys

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Speaker 3: Are you saying, hey, well, how did the tournament go?

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How did that? Does hand or play?

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Speaker 2: Well? Well, we won and we we we won, and

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this was a.

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Speaker 4: Super regional between the Mountain Region and the West Region.

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And so we are twenty and one in the Adida

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Circuit and we are the number one seventh grade team

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in the country in the Adida Circuit.

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Speaker 3: Just killing it ball and shot Colin.

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Speaker 4: That's right, just you know, trying to make sure that

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all the money that I didn't win and that I

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didn't make with nil is recouped by my son.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good goal to have it. Like it's funny,

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like I remember a deck to go talking with Reno

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skill development, on practices, on teams, on travel ball and

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all that stuff just to get a scholarship, right, just

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to get a scholarship, and and and when you look

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at the return on investment depending on where you went

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to school, it didn't really math out all that well, right,

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It's just it's like, oh man, I mean, yeah, it's

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it's it's good. But like when you're spending one hundreds

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of thousands of dollars over you know, the the the

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the young youth, you know, movements and these leagues and

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travel ball all that stuff, like it doesn't always math out.

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Speaker 3: Now now it kind of maths out a little bit, right.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: And and here's the thing, Ben, I'm not doing all

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of this so my son ageennas scholarship, right. I mean

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and basketball, you know, is the biggest part of my

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life and it's what I know. And you know, my

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raise them to understand the team work, to understand sacrifice,

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to entertain giving up something good for something great and

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you know, hard work pave off and and so you know,

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do I spend a lot of money on you sports?

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to help my son, but I also help a lot

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of other kids that are under privilege. You know at

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risk you and and so, and I do it because

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then people did it for me, because if it wasn't

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for basketball, I wouldn't have had a chance to come

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not oblivious to that. And so you know, it's

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it's now my turn to be able to give it back.

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Speaker 1: No, there are many lessons learned in the games that

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we play, the teams that were a part of and

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it's u it's fun to watch the development learning how

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to compete, learning how to grind, learning how to persevere

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through redversity. All of that is our lessons learned. Now

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this Boa basketball team, they've learned how to grind, They've

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learned how to persevere. They've had their ups and downs,

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their their undulations this year that we've looked like jackals.

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a lot better right now, JT. The trajectory looks good,

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the seating looks good. The location for the tournament right

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now in the West is good. It seems like b

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successful NC double A tournament run what do you see?

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I I hope that they

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can get out of the first round. You know, Texas

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tough conference, and so it's gonna be a good game, right,

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programs that are not having a good year, and uh

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plays the way that they've played, even the even a

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game against Houston, right, I think, you know, the game

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against Houston has shown one thing is that if Richie

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chance of being a final fourteen. And uh you know,

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they're gonna have to dig deep. And so I think

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the first round matchup against uh, you know, the winner

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of Texas Tech can excuse me, Texas and NC State,

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I think it's going to be a great challenge for BUYU,

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two different styles that they may face, and uh, you know.

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I don't want to look ahead because the most important

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game is the next one. But how sweet would it

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be to just have a J drop a forty you know,

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a forty nugget on the Zachs to.

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Speaker 2: Go to the Sweet sixteen, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, and just completely step on the WCC from all

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of the crappy years we had endoor of being in

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 4: It's I think it's a it's a great to your point,

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is a great path, you know to just to put

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it mildly, BUYU would have to eventually have to go

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through Texas or NC State and then an eventual game

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against Gonzaga, and then an eventual game against Purdue and

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then an eventual game against Arizona just to get to

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the final four.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, gee talking.

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Speaker 4: About a generational run that a Jane crew are going

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to have to go on. But again, right to be

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the best, you know, to be the best, you have

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to be the best.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's where b YU is right now.

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Speaker 3: They're in a good spot.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're concerned about that that first first

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round game versus one of these playing teams. Would you

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rather have Texas or NC State in that first playing

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game in that first round sixty four games?

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Speaker 4: So I will say this, Ben, when the hardest game

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to play in a tournament is the first one, and

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n C State, uh, you know, has had an up.

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Speaker 2: And down a year, more down than up.

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Speaker 4: But what I will say is that you know, they

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have the privilege and I do say privilege because well,

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they have the benefit.

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Speaker 2: Let's put it that way.

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Speaker 4: They have the benefit of playing a game before the

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first round. Don't just spread it that bend where you

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can go and you can play a game and you

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can win, and you already have momentum going into that

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Thursday game.

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Speaker 2: And so that's something that b Iu doesn't have.

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Speaker 4: And so to me, that was the biggest differentiator, you know,

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on the on the West Virginia game, where where West

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Virginia was kind of cold, had him play for you know,

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five days, and by us coming from a fresh win

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with yeah, you know, maybe they were a little bit tired,

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but still you were in West Virginia off the court,

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and to me, that's because they they weren't ridm and

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you know, and now I'm not saying that, you know,

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the winner of that game is going to run vi

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their sea leg you know, their sea legs under them anymore.

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jitter that that, hey, we're in the NCAA tournament game.

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Speaker 2: They already have a game under their belt.

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Speaker 4: And so that's always a little tricky with playing someone

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that came from the playing in game. Obviously, injuries can

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happen and such, but you know, to me, it's one

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of those situations where you know it's an extra day

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of rest and uh. And as of laid Ben, you know,

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to your point of an earlier comment in question, you know,

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he's playing great.

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Speaker 2: And and credit to Kevin Young. You know, I feel

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like Kevin Young challenged his manhood a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He did it himself where he was like, I'm over

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complicating everything. I just want to simplify this. And as

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soon as he did it that, you know, the team

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kind of, you know, was was let loose a little bit.

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for making the decision because I'll say that against you know,

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against Texas Stack the last game of the season, and

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Speaker 2: You know, the game against Cancel State, the game.

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Speaker 4: Against West Virginia, even a game against Houston, those boys competed,

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they played hard, you know, they challenged their opponent and

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that's everything you could ask for me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed. The It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I had Chris Collinsworth on the show leading up to

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the Big twelve tournament, and I asked him, Hey, like,

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what do you do defensively to like change things up?

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Do you do? You do you go zone and conserve energy?

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Do you play more man?

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Speaker 3: Do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know, give me some ideas on how YU can

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find some success defensively. And you know, I said, he said,

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go back to the basics, simplify and and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, limit like you don't have to have it.

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Speaker 1: You've got to communicate obviously, but like you just want

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to limit the complexity. And I was like, it was

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a home run comment that he made, and they did it.

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And I'm not saying that they followed Chris's recommendation. I

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think the coaching staff, you know, did their own self

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scout and figured out, hey, we just got to simplify things.

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Speaker 3: But it's been awesome to watch the effort elevate.

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Speaker 1: You do you think the simplification allows for effort to

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be maximized or is it just kind of that time

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of the year when there's a sense of urgency JT

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and guys are just more willing to put it all

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out on the line, uh and ball out for the

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team because it's survive in advance mode.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that is two times state champion

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Speaker 2: Chris let's go, you know, with all due respect and.

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Speaker 4: You know, but what I was saying is prize is

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spot on, you know, you know, and there's a saying

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which is simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, right and and

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making things simple. You know, Devin said about dummy down

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this enough, and to me, it's not really dummy down

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because that's you know, maybe has a negative connotation at

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least you know my language as it does. But to me,

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the basics, like you know, like sea Worth said it,

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how can you make sure that you're your you have

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your you know, handful of foundational principles on defense and

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you're sticking to them. And so you know, it's great

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to see by you do this. What I could I

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should have? I think to your point been I think

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both things can be true at the same time, which

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is one, do I use a little bit more locked

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in now because it is the most wonderful time of

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the year for basketball, you know, for basketball junkies.

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Speaker 2: And two is also the fact that.

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Speaker 4: They have simplified things to make things more basic for

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the players.

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Speaker 2: And so it's March. You know that they have you know,

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you have to lock in.

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Speaker 4: The sense of urgency has to be heightened, and so

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it's a great situation.

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Speaker 1: Well, JT, you went off, I believe on the tainted

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on social media recently by you to the Sweet sixteen

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by beating Gonzaga to make up for all the crappy

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West Coast Conference years will be epic. We were wandering

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through the wilderness of the West Coast for too long.

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It'd be great to send a Gonzaga home with a big,

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fat L and move onward and upward through the NCAA

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tournament bracket.

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Speaker 4: You I could not have said better myself, you know,

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no matter how people try to to spend it, the

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WCC years were awful, and they were awful because we

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played at high school at high school size arenas. My

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own high school had a bigger gym than most of

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these places, and it was just a crappy situation. By

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you couldn't get out of his own way, and you know,

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players just weren't all day. It was tough, man, I mean,

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losing to Pacific, losing to Pepperdine, like, what are we

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even talking about?

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Speaker 2: And so it's just one.

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Speaker 4: Of those things that you know, it's it's, it happened,

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and it was there.

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Speaker 2: It kind of like the Jazz black and yellow jerseys.

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You know, we acknowledge it when we move on, and uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's the crown jewel of the WCC is Gonzaga.

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Speaker 2: And rightfully, so this is no.

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Speaker 4: Discredit whatsoever to Gonzaga. You know that I've never minimized

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an opponent. I'll left them talking about the units, and

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but the one thing that I'll say is though Gonzaga

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has earned every single massive prop and compliment.

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Speaker 2: And success that they've had.

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Speaker 4: Nevertheless, it would be incredible for YU too, kind of

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you know, move on from the w CC by you know,

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just beating Gonzaga to the Sweet sixteen, says like Jim

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Or did the year, you know, the year before the

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YU joined the WCC conference by beating them.

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Speaker 2: In the in the second round to go to the.

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Speaker 4: Sweet sixteen, and so history repeats itself.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Jonathan Depth and Ai former b

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A rate the Brazilian bomber. Last thing before we let

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you go, JT, because we got to get out to

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break because you've used.

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Speaker 3: Taken over our airwaves.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like byus trending towards at least a

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six sweet sixteen run, is that meeting quota if they

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if they get to the sweet sixteen, all of Kuger

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Nation's gonna be happy with that right.

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Speaker 4: One bazillion percent if they get to the NCAA tournament.

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I guarantee the collectives and the boosters investments and the

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basketball team next year will be bigger than it was

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this year. I guarantee you that because at that point.

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Speaker 2: You were able to.

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Speaker 4: Make you know, a goour mate chicken neo out of

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chicken crap with all.

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Speaker 2: Of the injuries that happened.

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Speaker 4: And so if you can get to a sweet sixteen,

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my goodnessigrations, you know next year will be even bigger

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than this year was.

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Speaker 1: Boom Soocker Locke and Jonathan deven Hour, Ladies and gentlemen,

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j T. We'll catch up with again. I was a pleasure,

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always a blessing talking ball with you. Thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 4: And that is four time NCAA tournament participant.

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Speaker 1: You've Jonathan you my friend, it's crazy, like I mean,

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you think about that like and obviously it people do

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we take for granted getting to the NCAA Tournament. I

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think sometimes as BWI fans, there was a time that

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we didn't go a few times, like four times in

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a row.

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Speaker 3: It's a tremendous feed. You should celebrate it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a massive uh, like just a massive goal

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accomplished in that era, one of the best eras in

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b y U basketball history outside of maybe the glory

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days of the eighties.

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Speaker 4: My friend, I disagree. We were to going in years.

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The eighties were the super year. But we'll we'll discuss

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more of this when you and I go to rubys In. Yeah,

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Bryce canyons together, my.

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Speaker 3: Man, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's have an awesome time down there at rubies In

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and Bryce Cannon.

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