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<v Speaker 1>It's somewhat amazing to behold, but so much of the

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<v Speaker 1>election is actually hinging not on how you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>the ten thousand stupidest people in Pennsylvania are going to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually looking at this the other day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna come down to Pennsylvania. I'm now more and

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<v Speaker 1>more convinced whoever wins Pennsylvania is winning this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's like the long and short of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it looks like Trump's gonna win a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>states that he's winning, and the one state that's still

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<v Speaker 1>standing on a knife is Pennsylvania. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>American way. The fate of the entire world, the fate

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<v Speaker 1>of the free world, rests in the hands of the

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand stupidest people in Pennsylvania who still have not

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<v Speaker 1>made up their minds about whether they like Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Now regardless, there's another place that is basically

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<v Speaker 1>the battleground for the country, and that is right here

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<v Speaker 1>in California. I don't know how many of you, within

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<v Speaker 1>the sound of my voice have turned on a television

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<v Speaker 1>in the last month and a half, but you have

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<v Speaker 1>been bombarded by non stop ads for or against two

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<v Speaker 1>different people, John Duarte and David Valadeo. So, John Duarte

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<v Speaker 1>is running for congress. He is up north, David Valadeo's

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<v Speaker 1>down south. Duarte. His congressional seat involves a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much all of them are Said County, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Madera County, Santosous County, San Joaquin County up north.

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo has King's County, parts of Toularry County. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he goes into current county, et cetera. So David

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<v Speaker 1>Valadeo South, John Darte North. Duarte is running against Adam Gray,

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<v Speaker 1>a former member of the California State Legislature, as is

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<v Speaker 1>David Valdeo running against Rudy Sallas, a longtime member of

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<v Speaker 1>the California State Assembly. And you are seeing NonStop constant

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<v Speaker 1>ads for or against these two people.

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<v Speaker 2>Why well, the whole fate of much of.

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<v Speaker 1>What could happen over the next four years is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be determined by who wins those two races. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain the ways. Right now, Republicans control the House

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<v Speaker 1>Representatives by an incredibly narrow margin. It is with well

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<v Speaker 1>within the realm of possibility that Democrats could take the House.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are so many different outcomes that one side

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<v Speaker 1>or the other controlling the House could alter. Allow me

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<v Speaker 1>to relate all the ways. Let's suppose Donald Trump wins,

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<v Speaker 1>but Democrats take the House. Trump will be impeached at

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<v Speaker 1>least one more time, at least one more time, possibly

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<v Speaker 1>two times.

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<v Speaker 2>God knows.

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<v Speaker 1>God knows how many times are they going to impeach him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but that's on the table. They could

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<v Speaker 1>have non stop impeachment inquiries because when you control one,

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<v Speaker 1>when you control the House, you can start impeachment hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you control one house or the other, you

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<v Speaker 1>have subpoena power. You can investigate things for the sake

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<v Speaker 1>of legislation, you can interview witnesses, et cetera. So they

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<v Speaker 1>could have January sixth Committee style hearings for all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things. Plus with the January sixth Committee, they've now

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<v Speaker 1>established this precedent that you know, if Democrats have a majority,

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to they will, for some politically charged cause,

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<v Speaker 1>they will set up committees where they will not allow

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans to pick the people that they necessarily want to

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<v Speaker 1>pick to be the minority on the committee. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can have incredibly biased presentations of facts et cetera. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if Democrats take control of the House and Trump wins,

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<v Speaker 1>that could happen. But here's the other big thing. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>suppose Democrats get the trifecta. I think it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely scenario is the idea of Democrats taking the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>or retaining the Senate. I think pretty much universally people

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<v Speaker 1>think Republicans are going to take and whole are going

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<v Speaker 1>to take back the Senate. Democrats are certainly going to

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<v Speaker 1>lose the race in West Virginia where Joe Manchin is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be replaced by a Republican. That will be

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<v Speaker 1>one guaranteed Republican pickup. It looks like Democrats are certainly

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose in Montana where John Tester is going

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<v Speaker 1>to lose. So right there, that's a switch that gives

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans the majority from forty. Republicans right now have

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine Senate seats, and that would flip them to

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one. It's a pretty favorable year for Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. Democrats are defending more, far more seats than

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are. Maybe there's some scenario where also who is

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<v Speaker 1>president plays into this. If Trump wins Republicans only need

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<v Speaker 1>to get fifty votes to technically get the majority in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, fifty votes plus Jade Vance as the tiebreaker.

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<v Speaker 1>On the flip side, if Kamala Harris wins, Democrats only

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<v Speaker 1>need fifty votes plus Tim Walls as the tiebreaker. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's suppose Democrats get the majority in the Senate. They

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<v Speaker 1>get at least they hold on to at least fifty seats,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris wins, and Democrats win the House. What happens then, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, all hell is going to break loose

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<v Speaker 1>because the Democrats will get rid of the filibuster rule

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that mean.

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<v Speaker 1>The filibuster rule in the Senate is the rule that says,

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate you actually need sixty votes, not just

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<v Speaker 1>fifty plus a tiebreaker to advance most pieces of legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a long standing Senate rule. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of requires more consensus. It makes it harder pass legislation

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. You need actually sixty votes rather than

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<v Speaker 1>just a simple fifty vote majority. The Democrats in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate have all pledged they will get rid of well

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least forty nine of the fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat senators right now have all said we will get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the filibuster rule for certain things. The only

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<v Speaker 1>two Democrat senators who don't want to do that are

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Manchin who's leaving, and Kirsten Cinema who's leaving. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are like all in on this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of the philibuster rule in the Senate so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can pass, for example, universal nationwide abortion. You

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<v Speaker 1>know under what circumstance They won't do that though in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. If Republicans have the House. That's the situation

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Democrats have fifty one votes in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>They could get rid of the philibuster rule in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate to pass things they want. Why aren't they doing it, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing it because it makes no sense right

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<v Speaker 1>now to do that kind of enormous precedent breaking move

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<v Speaker 1>when the House is not going to pass legislation they want.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense. So basically, Republicans retaining control

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<v Speaker 1>of the House, at least retaining control of the House,

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<v Speaker 1>provides this break against Democrats doing the absolute worst things

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<v Speaker 1>they can do. That's the only reason why Biden hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been able over the last two years to accomplish the

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<v Speaker 1>worst things he wants to do. I think the first

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<v Speaker 1>two years of the Biden administration he sort of was softly.

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<v Speaker 1>He was okay with breaking the filibus but thank god

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats didn't quite have the fifty didn't quite have the

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<v Speaker 1>votes necessary to get rid of the philibuster. Kirston Cinema

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Manson basically saved the Republic and said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to abolish the filibuster rule just for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of accomplishing something in the short term. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to do that with They were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that with their voting rights bill, so called

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<v Speaker 1>voting rights bill that they wanted past, which would basically

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<v Speaker 1>just export all of California's voting rules to the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the country. They were rattling their sabers to do

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<v Speaker 1>that after roev Wade was overturned. After Rovy Wade was overturned,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted basically just to pass a new nationwide law

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<v Speaker 1>to make abortion legal in all fifty states, override all

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<v Speaker 1>the laws of all the fifty states regulating abortion. But

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<v Speaker 1>again Kirston Cinema and Joe Manchin didn't want to break

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<v Speaker 1>the filibuster in order.

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<v Speaker 2>To do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Harris is so oh behold into abortion, so committed

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<v Speaker 1>to it that she wants to do that. There won't

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<v Speaker 1>be any of the ambivalents that Biden showed on the question.

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<v Speaker 1>She desperately wants to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's now open about wanting to do her

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<v Speaker 1>scheme to pack the Supreme Court, like she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do all these insane things. To do these insane things,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to control both the House and the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs to break the philibuster rule in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna bother breaking the filibuster rule in the Senate. If,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, John Duarte and David Valadei hold onto their seats.

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<v Speaker 1>If John Duarte and David Valadeill hold onto their seats,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably means Republicans are going to hold on to

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<v Speaker 1>con I'll hold on to the House of Representatives. These are,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly two of the top ten most hotly contested, most

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<v Speaker 1>expensive races in the country are John Duarte and David

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<v Speaker 1>Valdeo's races. Now, when we return, we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with We will be speaking with John Duarte We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk with him about an sort of an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting topic, a little bit of a side the importance

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<v Speaker 1>the ongoing importance of AM radio Duarte's efforts to retain it,

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<v Speaker 1>and will get an update from him on his race

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<v Speaker 1>against Adam Gray. This is the John Girardi Show right

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<v Speaker 1>here on Power Talk. A topic of kind of selfish

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<v Speaker 1>interest for me, but non selfish interest for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of farmers out there, a lot of people dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>emergency response is the ongoing existence of AM radio. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of you listening to this, I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you are listening to this on Power Talk ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six seven in Fresno. They're probably also though, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you listening to this on AM thirteen sixty in

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<v Speaker 1>Modesto and AM fourteen hundred in the South Valley. Here

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with me about the effort to preserve AM

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<v Speaker 1>radio in cars is still at least a third or

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<v Speaker 1>more of the radio stations in the country or AM radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Here to talk with me about it is Congressman John

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<v Speaker 1>Duarte from the thirteenth District of California. Congressman, thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being on the John Girardi Show. I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>The John Girardi Show and Congressman John Duarte. We got

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<v Speaker 3>to keep that extra straight today, don't There we go?

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<v Speaker 2>John? And John, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Congressman, Uh, tell me a little bit about this

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<v Speaker 1>effort that I know you're signed on as a co

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor to this legislation. Your district obviously comprises the very

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<v Speaker 1>ag heavy I was pretty much everything between the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine and the five from Fresno, almost almost reaching up

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<v Speaker 1>to Stockton, so Olmer said, County Madera, County at Stanislaus County,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Tell me a little bit about why you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're signed on to this effort to kind of keep

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<v Speaker 1>AM radio preserved.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you touched on the most important part of it, John,

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<v Speaker 3>This is a bypart is an effort to recognize that

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<v Speaker 3>AM radio is the most reliable, flexible, already established system

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<v Speaker 3>for people to get communications during emergencies and when you're

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<v Speaker 3>up in Tahoe in the whole mountain snowed in and

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's stuck in traffic, it's the AM radio stations that

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<v Speaker 3>the caltrams direct you to listen to to find out

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<v Speaker 3>what road conditions are and get emergency updates. This is

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<v Speaker 3>true during fires, floods, everyone's got an AM radio and

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<v Speaker 3>the emergency response folks can rely on radio AM radio.

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<v Speaker 3>One AM radio tower can broadcast over and around mountains,

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<v Speaker 3>that can broadcast hundreds of miles, that can cover many

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<v Speaker 3>cities with a single radio station. So a generator in

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<v Speaker 3>a radio broadcast station with AM radio can provide emergency

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<v Speaker 3>information to hundreds and hundreds of thousd and if not

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<v Speaker 3>millions of people. And that's why when you're when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in your car and you're in an emergency or there's

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<v Speaker 1>Go to, right, and the other, the big the other

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<v Speaker 1>sort of big push for this. It seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Yeah, AM radio is a very popular rural communications channel.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the side benefits to keep an aim

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<v Speaker 3>or some some crazy thing like that. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>where you can find a very democratized communication medium that

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<v Speaker 3>much of that lately. AM radio has a long history

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think this is a legitimate role

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<v Speaker 1>This is the airwaves that you know don't necessarily radio

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<v Speaker 2>This is interstate commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>This is huge multi state you know businesses, car manufacturers,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having to deal with questions of you know, nationwide

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<v Speaker 3>As we talked about, John, I think that the public

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<v Speaker 3>safety and public information system that FM radio uniquely plays

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<v Speaker 3>is the most compelling argument in this bill. Right, we

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<v Speaker 3>all want to be careful when we start to use

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<v Speaker 3>to let that kind of flows. That flows. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>Am Rady's still got a very strong role to play

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<v Speaker 3>listeners who want to access the information of the entertainment

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<v Speaker 3>that groups like yours provides. The biggest, most compelling part

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<v Speaker 3>of this bill, though, truly, is the emergency communication system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, well, Congressman, I appreciate all the insight on

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<v Speaker 1>this Bill in particular. I think I'd be remiss though,

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about your campaign right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of the big most hotly contested races

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<v Speaker 1>for the House of Representatives in the whole country, your

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<v Speaker 1>race against Adam Gray. I just thought i'd ask how

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the choice for voters in.

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<v Speaker 2>Within the thirteenth district.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the choice is clear. We can stay on the

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<v Speaker 3>path of high taxes, high inflation, high gas prices, high

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<v Speaker 3>grocery prices, and fleeing companies from California as well as

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<v Speaker 3>the United States. Or we can go back to the

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<v Speaker 3>policies of affordability, opportunity, bring the gas price of gas

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<v Speaker 3>and groceries down, drill American oil, repatriot of manufacturing, because

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<v Speaker 3>at look at our nation differently when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>where they manufacture. Right now, in the thirteenth district, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got families paying forty seven cents a kilowatt hour to

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<v Speaker 3>and the energy intensive factory in a location that's got

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it's our Gavin Newsom fiber ten years them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Gavin Newsom is going to have that handled.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll make sure that there's enough oil in all those

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<v Speaker 3>So that's great. Do some ANPTI the checking account so

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<v Speaker 3>he bought more checks?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how that works. You screw up the

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<v Speaker 3>It makes no sense. But we don't expect much out

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<v Speaker 1>I love how the you know, the gas companies are

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<v Speaker 2>We will not keep investing here. That will increase all

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm going to do this. Okay, good sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks thanks a lot for engaging honestly with us. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>at any rate, Congressman Duarte, we appreciate having you on.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll probably I assume Trevor and I will be checking

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<v Speaker 1>in with you guys on election night.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the how these California races you and

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<v Speaker 1>David Valadeo goo that could determine the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're we're going to be watching with great interest.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm available over the weekend. Keep in touch, glad to

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, it sounds good, and we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>with more right here on the John Girardi Show. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some more local elections stuff. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about. I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bond measures, specifically the Clovis Unified and.

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<v Speaker 2>The President Unified bond measures.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, my wife got in the mail because we live

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<v Speaker 1>in kind of the Clovis Unified area. Yes, on measure

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<v Speaker 1>A five proofs of a great bond. Now, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was funny phrasing because five proofs is commonly used

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<v Speaker 2>History of philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>That relates to the five proofs of the existence of

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh, five proofs.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you've heard of Aristotle and Saint Thomas giving five proofs.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's five proofs on what a great bond measure A. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are not aware If you live in

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<v Speaker 1>Measure A is a four hundred million dollar bond measure

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<v Speaker 1>for construction projects. Measure H is a five hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>bond for construction projects. Both of these bond measures are

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<v Speaker 1>emanating from Proposition two. Proposition two is a statewide ten

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<v Speaker 1>that is maybe the chief reason why I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to vote yes on any of these local, individual school

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<v Speaker 1>district bond measures. They're not Actually what they're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>basically they know that Proposition two is on the table statewide.

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<v Speaker 1>If Proposition two passes, they can get more money from

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<v Speaker 1>the state, like matching money from the state, if they

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<v Speaker 1>also raise money through a local bond measure. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>every single school district in the region is issuing a

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<v Speaker 1>bond measure right now. It's to capture the proposition to money.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess this just makes me skeptical and not

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<v Speaker 1>really believe all these school districts when they say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we need the oh, all of a sudden we need

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<v Speaker 1>the sort even though we just passed, you know, several

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollar bond measures just four years ago and got.

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<v Speaker 2>State funding for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though we already got a bond measure and a

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, no, we need it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have anything to do with the Oh just

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<v Speaker 1>klinky dink that the state bond measure is here. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure people would like all the money all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And there's always things that school districts

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<v Speaker 1>measure finish Clovis South. Why do you need it to

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<v Speaker 1>finish Close South? Why did you start Clovis South without

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<v Speaker 2>To finish it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, prices increased for everything during COVID, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>we couldn't have anticipated that, so we we really need

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<v Speaker 1>this money. Well, you know what, maybe make Clovi South

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<v Speaker 1>a little less grandiose. I don't know, one less Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>Close East for the swimming. I don't know, like tighten

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<v Speaker 1>your belt. Why is it that school districts are the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones who don't ever have to tighten their belts?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm spending a lot more money on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should I have to continue spending a lot on

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<v Speaker 1>my property taxes just so that your grandiose designed for

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no fat you can cut out of Clovis South.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of a shortfall are we at here? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what the Measure A supporters say about Measure A,

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<v Speaker 1>the five proofs of the existence of God. Note the

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<v Speaker 1>five proofs of why it's a great bond measure. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts out with a flat out deception. Maybe not a

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<v Speaker 1>flat out lie, but it's certainly deceptive. Number one doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sick of this messaging from the Clovis Unified

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<v Speaker 1>crowd about how Measure A isn't going to cost you

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<v Speaker 1>an extra penny. How the last bond measure they passed

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't cost you an extra penny. It won't increase your

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<v Speaker 1>taxes at all. Let me just explain what bond measures are,

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<v Speaker 1>just to get rid of any illusions you guys might

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<v Speaker 1>have about what bond measures are and how that work.

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<v Speaker 2>A bond is a loan.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a loan to a municipal entity, like in

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<v Speaker 1>this case a school district could go to a state.

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<v Speaker 2>Could go to a city, could go to a county.

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<v Speaker 1>But a bond is a loan. That's what a bond is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of I actually spoke for a

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<v Speaker 1>Keller speak about all the different ballot initiatives and I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about proposition too, And I asked them and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, no shame in this, but let

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<v Speaker 1>me just go around the room and ask you. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you, guys if I stuck this microphone in

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<v Speaker 1>your face and put you on the spot and said,

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<v Speaker 1>could you define for me succinctly what a bond is?

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<v Speaker 1>And most of those get There were a few who

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't really know what a bond is. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>of most people. I think most people see the word bond,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't exactly understand what it means. They know it

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<v Speaker 1>has something to do with taxes. They know it means

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<v Speaker 1>somehow money goes to the school district, but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>really understand it. A bond is just a loan. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a loan to a school district.

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<v Speaker 2>Like most loans. What do you have to pay back?

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<v Speaker 2>You got to pay back.

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<v Speaker 1>The principle, which for measure A is four hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to pay back the interest, which for

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<v Speaker 1>Measure A could be as much as another four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. Who's paying that back and win? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I not the school district paying it back, it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the taxpayers. You pay it back in taxes. You

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<v Speaker 1>pay it back in property taxes. So for the measure

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<v Speaker 1>A folks to say, Measure A, this four hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars bond that's gonna cost the taxpayers approximately eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. It doesn't cost you an extra penny. How

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<v Speaker 1>are they able to say that, Well, it's because on

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<v Speaker 1>your property tax statement.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who live within the close unified area.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got old bonds, old close unified bond measures that

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<v Speaker 1>you're still paying for from the year two thousand. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's two thousand, two thousand and eight, twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, and now we're gonna get twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's the case. I might be off in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those dates, but you've got multiple old bond

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<v Speaker 1>measures that you're still paying over the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>life of these bonds. I think it could vary, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's usually it's a thirty year long repayment. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the measure A folks tried to structure

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<v Speaker 1>this is such that, well, this won't make your property

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<v Speaker 1>taxes increase, They're just not gonna naturally decrease once we've

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<v Speaker 1>paid off old bond measures. So that's how they're able

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with saying Oh, it doesn't increase your taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't cost you an extra penny. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 1>costs you an a quote extra penny. If you pay

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes, you will be paying for this. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna cost you. You would if they just paid

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<v Speaker 1>let existing bonds get paid off, you would begin to

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<v Speaker 1>see a drop in your property tax right once, finally

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<v Speaker 1>these flipping bonds are paid off. But no, no, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get paid off. Next, build on past successes,

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<v Speaker 1>a history of excellence in the classroom and on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>leading the next generation even greater heights. All right, sure

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<v Speaker 1>sounds good. Independent Oversight has a forty members Citizens Oversight

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<v Speaker 1>Committee that monitors accountability and stewardship over your money. You

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<v Speaker 1>know someone made that this arguments, Well, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>the money is monitored very carefully to make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>used the right way. Okay, bully for you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't really trust. I mean, I'm not accusing Clovis Unified

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<v Speaker 1>of laundering money or financial shenanigans. I'm just saying I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to pay for this stuff. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for a huge eight hundred million bond measure

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<v Speaker 1>with four hundred million, spending eight hundred million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>get four hundred million dollars worth of benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do that every four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's silly. Number four Clear Benefits Measure

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<v Speaker 1>A has a solid plan line out of my line

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<v Speaker 1>on them of how to improve facilities, increase campus safety,

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<v Speaker 1>and monetize our schools. We give this plan an A plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, you're the sponsors of the bill. Community trust

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<v Speaker 1>you trusted us, and we built fabulous facilities, phenomenal pools,

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<v Speaker 1>spectacular stadiums, and transformational technology. That's the other thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of this stuff necessarily correlates with

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<v Speaker 1>students actually learning more necessarily. I mean, I remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife and I were thinking about this one private.

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<v Speaker 2>School a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago, and they're selling point.

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<v Speaker 2>They were trying to sell, Oh, every student has an iPad. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I that's the absolute opposite of what I want. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want kids all having iPads.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly, I don't know that you need much more other

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<v Speaker 1>than an overhead projector jesuis like the idea that all

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<v Speaker 1>of that an iPad for every kid, as if that's

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<v Speaker 1>a selling point as if that's something that's gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>kids learn better. Like, No, the iPad's literally the most

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<v Speaker 1>intuitive piece of technology known to man. No, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily trust that all this money we're pouring in

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<v Speaker 1>is necessarily correlated with student success. It certainly isn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the context of Presdent Unified.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, if I get that the Clovis Unified areas population

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<v Speaker 1>is growing, they're trying to build a new high school,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Again every four years, we have to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Every four years, we have to put in a new

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<v Speaker 1>bond measure to get more money. And again the timing

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<v Speaker 1>of it, it's it's you're only doing this because of

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<v Speaker 1>the state wide bond measure. If the state wide bond

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<v Speaker 1>measure weren't on the table, I don't think this bond

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<v Speaker 1>measure would be on the table for us locally.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, shifting gears away from clothes Unified.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, by the way, just I hate the entire

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<v Speaker 1>California public school system. I think the whole focus, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thrust of it is premised wrong. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thrust of American public high schools towards preparing kids

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<v Speaker 1>for college. We ignore the fact that huge percentages of

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<v Speaker 1>people will not actually graduate from college, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>pour the necessary investment into skilled labor, non college graduate

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of work that could actually make eighteen year olds employable. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing is we're preparing some kids that some

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<v Speaker 1>of these kids can go to college, of which a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of them will get some flimflam useless degree and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of student loan debt.

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<v Speaker 2>Some kids will go to college but not graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of kids will graduate high school and have

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of flim flam existence of bopping around between

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<v Speaker 1>kind of community college and maybe some classes at state

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<v Speaker 1>and then wind up not graduating but having a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of student loan debt, and we're not serving those people. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's an epidemic in this country of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty three year olds living. As I say, I

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<v Speaker 1>keep using this adjective, this flim flam existence of not

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<v Speaker 1>really having much direction because high school prepared them for nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>High school prepared them for college graduation, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>baby boomer model of just this is what success in

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<v Speaker 1>America is. You go to high school, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>college degree, you advance and that was very true for many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many families throughout the United States of America. Certainly was

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<v Speaker 1>true for the Girardes that my great grandfather came here

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<v Speaker 1>on a boat to Ellis Island as a shoemaker and

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<v Speaker 1>a grocer, and his son went to college and became

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<v Speaker 1>a CPA, and his son went to college and med

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<v Speaker 1>school and became a doctor, and his son went to

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<v Speaker 1>college in law school and now yaps on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>College higher education was the pathway to success in this

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<v Speaker 1>current time, with it with college education being so watered

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<v Speaker 1>down as far as its value, the degree inflation, great

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<v Speaker 1>inflation and degree inflation of you know, the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>jobs that needed just a bachelor's degree thirty years ago

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<v Speaker 1>now need a master's degree, that needed a high school

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<v Speaker 1>diploma thirty years ago now.

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<v Speaker 2>Need a bachelor's degree.

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<v Speaker 1>The extravagant cost and debt load that college weighs on people.

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<v Speaker 1>We need different priorities for public education, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the American model is just not a great model. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to keep pouring money into public schools who

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<v Speaker 1>are mandated. Also, just this other thing, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep pouring money into public schools that are mandated

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<v Speaker 1>by the state to teach things that are fundamentally contrary

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<v Speaker 1>to Christianity, which is what the public schools do when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to anything relating to sexuality, sexual ethics, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>They are mandated to teach things that are fundamentally contradictory

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<v Speaker 1>to what I believe. Now, let's talk about Measure H

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<v Speaker 1>real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. Actually, we'll save it for the last segment.

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<v Speaker 1>The no on Measure H and even more decisive no

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<v Speaker 1>than the no on Close Unified Measure A that is

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<v Speaker 1>next on the John Girardi Show. There's an editorial in

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<v Speaker 1>gv wire written by Bill McEwen, who sort of directs

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<v Speaker 1>news for GV wire. McEwan had been long time editor

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<v Speaker 1>for the Fresno b NO on Measure H, and he

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<v Speaker 1>lays out some of the big highlights for it. Measure

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<v Speaker 1>H is the Fresno Unified Area five hundred million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bond measure that you know, with interest, is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to cost taxpayers in Fresne Unified about a billion a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars principal plus interest. By the way, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a renter in president Unified rather than a homeowner, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, property tax increase, So that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to impact me. Now, who do you think pays for

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes. It's not your landlord. He's passing the cost

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<v Speaker 1>on to you in rent. He increases he or she

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<v Speaker 1>increases your rent for his property tax burden. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're not escaping the burden of higher property taxes just

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<v Speaker 1>because you rent versus own a house. That is reflective

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<v Speaker 1>in your rent.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>McEwan rights voters have backed more than one billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in President Unified construction bonds since nineteen ninety five in

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<v Speaker 1>the belief that new and updated facilities would enhance student learning. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the record shows this investment has not significantly improved student

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<v Speaker 1>achievement or fulfilled the district's goals of graduating high percentages

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<v Speaker 1>of young men and women ready to succeed in.

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<v Speaker 2>College or the workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact is President Unified remains one of the lowest

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<v Speaker 1>performing school districts in the nation. The reasons for this

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<v Speaker 1>startling lack of success are complex and many. The extreme

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<v Speaker 1>poverty in some President neighborhoods creates big barriers to learning.

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<v Speaker 1>A union contract that rewards veteran teachers with the perk

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<v Speaker 1>of picking their assignments, robs students from impoverished homes of

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to be taught by many of the best instructors. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the overarching reason for Fresny Unified's long struggles, a

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<v Speaker 1>complete failure by the school board to put students first

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<v Speaker 1>by holding superintendents, other top administrators and teachers accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>For educational achievement.

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<v Speaker 1>The community has sent loud messages to district leaders of

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<v Speaker 1>the past twenty five years the status quo is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>They go on on and on that Fresney Unified has

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<v Speaker 1>had as basically its number one goal of preserving the

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy at all costs. This op ed by McEwan, who

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<v Speaker 1>I think has been a very close observer of Fresney

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<v Speaker 1>Unified for the last thirty years. It's pretty devastating and

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<v Speaker 1>he absolutely tears them apart and says, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>we should be spending this much money with such poor

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<v Speaker 1>leadership in Fresdent Unified. No guarantee that it will actually

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<v Speaker 1>help student success. So no unmeasured rates, no unmeasured rate,

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<v Speaker 1>no one prop to that'll do it. John Girardy show

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time on Power Talk
