WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:04.400 After the hooter from super League three sixty York thirty 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:09.080 eight to lose fourteen in round is it round nine 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:09.880 of super League. 4 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:14.359 My name is Lee Addison, My name is John Davidson. 5 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.440 Tries for York from Vaughan who scored two, Galiano scored 6 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:23.519 a hat trick and Buckingham scored goals were six by 7 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:28.440 Cody Hunter to lose Lacan Okaine and ma and Rouge 8 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:34.119 kicked a goal. York started a hell of a lot better, John, Yeah, I. 9 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:36.920 Mean I think you're pretty much dominated this game for 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:41.359 the majority. I thought they there forwards, ran ran hard 11 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:44.719 and really dominated the middle to loose, didn't offer a 12 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:48.880 lot in attack. And while they were, you know, to 13 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.719 loose were the effort was there, they just didn't really 14 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:54.240 have much to trouble York. 15 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:57.960 I thought the standard of the game was pretty average. 16 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.399 To be honest, I thought they both looked and this 17 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:03.200 is going to sound really disrespectful, but we know why, 18 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:06.159 and you've been saying this Adnas him. It looked like 19 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:11.640 a high level championship game. Quite frankly, Paul Vaughan scored 20 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:14.760 two tries and apparently it's his birthday because the commentator 21 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:21.400 didn't stop mentioning it. But he was beaten by Galliano, 22 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.760 who scored three. I think that's a sign John that 23 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.200 the York played quite a lot of football today because 24 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.480 Galliano got over the line three times. 25 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:36.920 I think I think you probably harsh but fair in 26 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.439 the sense that there was quite a few errors. It 27 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.799 wasn't a really quite quality game. I think there was 28 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:46.680 some nice bits at times. That played from Jesse d 29 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:48.519 in the second half reminded me of you know, the 30 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:52.719 back back thea reminded me of g I and Gazsnir 31 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:54.000 and that Kangaroo's game. 32 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:56.480 I think I think I was. I was at that 33 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.959 game six. It was the ninth of May two thousand 34 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:00.480 an eight. 35 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:05.760 Mate. Yeah, but yeah, look, yeah, there was a lot 36 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:09.599 of errors. There was quite a few knock ons. As 37 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:12.639 I said, I thought to loose a bit of alarm 38 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:15.879 bells there. They didn't really fire many shots. They did 39 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.000 score a couple of consolation tries, but there's six tackle options. 40 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.360 They're just they're not really getting much out of their 41 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.439 out of their spine. And I thought York's forwards we 42 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:28.919 were pretty dominant. New York's still missing, you know, their 43 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.759 fallback is really influential there's seven and picked up a 44 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.520 few more injuries so with Josh Griffin and Benison. But 45 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.000 New York just, you know, we're really up for it, 46 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:43.039 and you know, are really important two points for them, 47 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.840 because I think it's them and to lose. Are on 48 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.439 the bottom now, and obviously they'll they'll push up New 49 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:49.199 York with that win. 50 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.520 Two wins Olympiaker as I christened them when they won 51 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.680 their first two games early. They're probably the epitome of 52 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:01.759 what we've spoken about on the Super Leagues podcast an 53 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:05.080 awful lot, which is the promoted teams have to start 54 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.919 well because since then they've literally dropped right off. I 55 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.159 felt like in attack they were too lateral. I thought 56 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.680 they lacked punch. I thought that, you know, there wasn't 57 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:18.199 enough in terms of coming back in on the angle 58 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:22.159 or testing the line. The horse weren't testing the line enough. 59 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.800 I noticed they've changed their defensive system a little bit too, 60 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:29.120 to become more compressed, and that says a couple of 61 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.400 things to me. That suggests that they're obviously scratching around 62 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:39.080 looking for some answers, trying to change something strategically. But 63 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.400 the reality is it doesn't matter if your players don't 64 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.039 aim up defensively. You can have the greatest defensive system 65 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:45.919 in the world, and if your players don't aim up. 66 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.240 One fella worked awfully hard. That was hands the hooker, right. 67 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:55.639 He did sixty two tackles according to the commentators after 68 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:57.599 seventy eight minutes, and then I saw him in a 69 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:00.680 couple more. And again that looking at your that suggests 70 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.879 to me how much they dominated the middle, because the 71 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:07.080 man in the middle for to lose is the one 72 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:10.280 doing all those tackles, and York dominated the field position 73 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:12.400 a lot too. I just just felt to lose just 74 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.240 weren't in the races for the whole game. 75 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.000 Yeah, I think it was a bad sign with the 76 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.439 with the opening try, it was really soft for Paul Vaughn. 77 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.759 Was just like they didn't they didn't come off the 78 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.199 line the medium and you know, for a player of 79 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:28.319 Paul Vaughn's size and experience, that was just mate potatoes. 80 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.959 He just you know, soft try to start, which was 81 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.160 a concern. And then they got that second try. 82 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:33.839 Off a kick. 83 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.720 And I think to Luis, we're lucky to because the 84 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.319 astual bot incident. I think he had a he deserved 85 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.879 the yellow card for that. You know that was you know, 86 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:48.000 a shot to the to the head and there was 87 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:49.920 you know, I think there was a bit of there's 88 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:52.199 a bit of venue in that. I know, the the 89 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:56.519 your player was it was falling but he didn't miss him. 90 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:58.839 Uh so they got out of jail a little bit there. 91 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:03.319 But yeah, I think I think York were pretty dominant. 92 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:05.319 It was it was a fairly one sided game. 93 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:06.199 You know. 94 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.959 I think I think to lose, you can see the 95 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.759 efforts there. They're not there's no lack of effort. They're 96 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.079 not trying. No, I think they're just they're just locked. 97 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.639 They just sorry. They just lack a little bit of quality. 98 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:22.240 And I think basically, yeah, I don't think there's the 99 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.279 players out there, but but there's also the money for 100 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:27.160 for that club to go out and sign them. So 101 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:32.079 you know, when you look at the market and all 102 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:34.680 these clubs are having massive injury issues, so they're all 103 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:36.319 swimming in the same pool for players. 104 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:38.800 But also to lose, don't. 105 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:43.319 Have the you know, the catch considered, Yeah, the financial 106 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:45.120 backing to go out and you know, pull in a 107 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.519 big name something. So yeah, it's I think that is 108 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.240 a it is a worrying sign for them. So what's 109 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.120 that seven losses in a rono? 110 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.480 No, it is, oh maybe if you include they didn't 111 00:05:56.480 --> 00:05:59.000 play coup did they? So it's not seven losses a 112 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.240 role because because there's all with nine rounds. But they 113 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.480 they were. 114 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:07.079 And then they've lost the next seven. 115 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:08.680 Did they win the first two? 116 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:08.920 Yeah? 117 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.240 Well yeah, yeah seven a roll then yeah, yeah, you 118 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:16.360 are right. It was good for you there, it's it's 119 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.800 it's scary actually, and it's the fear that we all 120 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.279 that we all had on this podcast. Best players on 121 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.920 the Field for you, John Paul McShane got the official 122 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.279 man of the match. I think, yeah, I think I 123 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.720 think he was his four hundredth game. I mean, he's 124 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:36.199 had a fantastic career. He's still just got those little 125 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.000 bits of class, you know, the kick from half, the 126 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.839 little grub are just a really really smart player. 127 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:44.560 I thought he was. He was a standout. 128 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.120 I really liked the the I'm not exactly sure how 129 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.759 old he is, but the half back Cody Hunter is 130 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:56.040 another reserve grade obviously in New York team, but I 131 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:58.240 think he's only played a couple of games in Super League. 132 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.279 But he you know, lovely cut out pass in that 133 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.639 first half and you know, just he looks like he's 134 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:08.240 he's got a bit an ouse and again Jesse d 135 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:12.959 really strong boar runner, Paul Vaughan again leading from the front, 136 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.160 and you know, I thought Galiano, you know, he obviously 137 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.720 picked up what three tries, but I think he's been 138 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:22.639 good for most of York's games this season. 139 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:24.160 He's been one of the standouts. 140 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:29.079 Where's he from, Paul Gulliano, Scott Galliano? 141 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:33.240 He is from the Sunshine Coast Falcons. I believe another 142 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:38.360 was he Q Kupper. I had a look and this 143 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:43.160 is not a criticism of York because I think it's 144 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.600 more of a reflection of the talent pool in England. 145 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.959 But nine of their seventeen were well eight of the 146 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.560 seventeen were restrains and one was a key we So 147 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.240 you know, that's more than more than half. And I 148 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.439 think across the competition, with the increase in the business spots, 149 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.199 you know we're seeing a lot lot more of that 150 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.319 and that yeah, because there is you know, there's there's 151 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:13.000 murmurs about fifteen teams next year and I don't really 152 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.319 know how London would recruit a squad because there are 153 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:18.279 only allowed ten foreign players. So if you you know 154 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:23.639 if you need a squad of say thirty, Yeah, it's. 155 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:29.199 There's something to consider. Anyway, Look, lipstick on a pig. 156 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.720 I keep using that phrase, and somebody pulled me up 157 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.000 and said, you look, that's your phrase. At the moment, 158 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:40.440 it was my dad. Actually, boy, it's so true. It's 159 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:45.559 it's just window dressing. I want to go into go 160 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:48.759 into a bit more detail about this, right so people 161 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.480 people will sit listening to this and think, oh, it's 162 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:55.320 a negative. No, we're telling that. We're telling what what? 163 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.679 What are facts in terms of reserve grade players coming 164 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:02.320 into the Super League? And and I think one of 165 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:07.440 the things that that is bearing out now is the 166 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.440 results is getting a lot harder for these promoted teams. 167 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:11.840 They're the ones who are going to be on the 168 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:18.519 sharpest end of this recruitment problem. Secondly, that your crowd 169 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:21.519 tonight was nothing compared to around one. Now, I know 170 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:24.480 that's a very simple comparison, but I didn't even know 171 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.039 what color the seats were in that stadium until tonight. 172 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.080 So obviously the fans are starting to pick up on 173 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:35.240 the fact that that it's getting tough for their team 174 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.600 as well. Now I know, to lose wouldn't have brought 175 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:40.600 any fans, many fans. 176 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.159 Yeah, I think it's probably a more reflection of the 177 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.840 crowds they get from the other local teams. Like I 178 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.960 think obviously OK are first kind of season they would 179 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.519 have taken a lot of fans, you know, I think 180 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:56.879 probably three thousand or something. I think your season average 181 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.679 last year was around the two and a half three thousand. 182 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:04.960 Don't have a big fan base, but yeah, hopefully. 183 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:05.919 Yeah. 184 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.440 I think I've said this before, like York is like 185 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.080 the same as to loosen even for Bradford. Some ways 186 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.679 they are a long term particularly those other two clubs 187 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:14.399 and not Bradford. 188 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:16.600 They are more of a long term build, you. 189 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.639 Know, and they should have been given the time to 190 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:19.879 build long term. 191 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.159 Yeah, yeah, I mean that's yeah, we don't. 192 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.039 I don't want to repeat the thing that The thing 193 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:28.159 about the negativity and someone jokingly said that to me 194 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:32.480 today when I sent them my North Wales story, the 195 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:36.039 updated one that's in the ipaper it's online today, is 196 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.919 you're always say negative. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm 197 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:42.679 just reporting the massive kind of fraud that's going on. 198 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:45.120 You know, we can look the other way, but all 199 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:49.480 these things, all these things lea connected you know, the 200 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:54.120 the drop in male participation feeds into the development structures 201 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.200 or the lack of development structures and the cut of 202 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.960 development officers. And then you know in the neglect of 203 00:10:59.000 --> 00:11:01.759 the championship re le one and the fact that there's 204 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:05.000 now reserve team football then feeds into the top league 205 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.559 and the fact that there isn't enough players ready for 206 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.519 Super League means they've got to increase the visa, the 207 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.159 quator amount and then they go and get more players, 208 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.639 but they can't afford the best players from Australia or 209 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.759 better players from australiagy zone, so they get the reserve 210 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.720 grade players, which then impacts the product. 211 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.120 It is all, as you know, all into linked. 212 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.759 And in terms of negativity, John, when you and I 213 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.879 get feedback, it's about us saying the things that nobody 214 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.879 else says because we're not cheerleaders. Again, I want to 215 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.080 quantify what I mean about about standards. So I thought 216 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.080 standard wise, the game was slow, as in the players 217 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.559 tend to lack pace and lack punch, and there's not 218 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.759 an awful lot of X factor on the field. And 219 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.399 I think one of the one of the best things 220 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.240 I can I can forward to some of that up 221 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.480 right near the end there that to lose wing number 222 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.639 two sorry his name escapes me. Got the ball in 223 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:59.600 broken play and normally a wing or certainly in the 224 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:03.000 NR well anyway, you're hard pressed to catch them. I 225 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.440 think the wing had about five players around him in 226 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.399 no time, even though he'd broken through half the field. 227 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:11.879 So you know, this is just this is just the 228 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.440 reality of it, and we're trying to we're trying to 229 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:17.120 paint that picture. The other one is the injuries. And 230 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:24.080 I saw footage of Josh Griffin on the sideline injured. 231 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:27.240 I mean soon we're going to get a call up John. 232 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:29.080 Yeah. 233 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.399 It is every game now you seem to see at 234 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.720 least two or three injuries, and I think Griffin's was 235 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.639 a bicep or looks to be a boseet, which is 236 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:42.480 obviously going to be a while. I think Bennison might 237 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:47.000 have been an hio. But yeah, you're just getting you know, 238 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:50.799 squads are absolutely got, and I think was at Bradford 239 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:53.759 saying this week that I only had fifteen players to 240 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:58.840 try and then drafted in Greg Aden from the Northwest Crusaders. 241 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:00.960 But you know what I mean. 242 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.360 So you've got Super League clubs dipping in the levels below. Yeah, 243 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:12.320 we're getting down to bare bones. And we can debate 244 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.039 whether that's because of the speeding up of the rules 245 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:16.600 or shorter preseasons. 246 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:17.440 There's probably a lot. 247 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.960 Of factors for that, but the reality is it's not great. 248 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.559 It's really bad film the players, but it's also going 249 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:26.480 to affect the product on the field without doubt. 250 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.919 I've been looking online for the opposite of unleashed, and 251 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:38.879 words such as restrained, confined, bound, or leashed are the options. 252 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.120 And that's of course referring to the Huddersfield giants who 253 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.240 apparently were unleashed according to the director of Change. And 254 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:48.120 that's just an in joke between me and John and 255 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:50.440 everybody who listens to our stuff regularly or know what 256 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:56.879 we're talking about. Lee Leopard's thirty Huddersfield sixteen in the 257 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.159 other game tonight, And I've got to say, first of all, 258 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.600 what people need to understand, sorry, they don't need to understand, 259 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.399 they like them to understand, is that it was when 260 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.279 there's two games on at tenny one time, it's actually 261 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.200 a lottery as to which one I get to watch 262 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:14.360 because they only show one on Fox. So luckily we're 263 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:16.639 on the same game tonight, so neither of us have 264 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.600 seen the Lee and Huddersfield game. The tries for Lee 265 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:24.600 were two from Towels. Senior scored one, Lamb scored one 266 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:29.080 and Charlie scored two. Cook kick Cook kicked three goals 267 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:33.039 for them. For the Giant Swift Milne and Gag Guy 268 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.799 with a try scorer as Zeno and kicked two goals. 269 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:42.720 So good resultfull ye that positive win, big win. Halftime, 270 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:47.159 it was twenty ten. Let's talk about Huddersfield. First, they're 271 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:47.759 now leashed. 272 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:55.679 Yeah, I mean, Huddersfield a very poor last against Leeds. 273 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:59.360 I think they've kind of reverted back to top because 274 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:02.480 they've gone most of their I mean, I know they've 275 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:04.519 got there have got some injuries, but they've got at 276 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:09.679 least their key players back or most of them. But yeah, 277 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:11.799 I mean I think I think this it's just reverting 278 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:16.720 back to what we expect from Harnersfield from the least side. 279 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:20.000 They they've gotten their players back and trying their players 280 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.360 back the last few weeks and it's made a big difference. 281 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.519 And you know they were much improved against Warrington a 282 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:29.480 couple of weeks back and last weekend as well, so 283 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.360 you can see them, if not going on a run, 284 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.200 but definitely being a lot more competitive week to week 285 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.039 because they do have they do have a favorite quality 286 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:39.879 in that team. 287 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:40.360 Lee. 288 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:44.000 I think the difference last week I from correct was 289 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:48.960 the first came back for a Pappy. He's massive for them, 290 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:52.080 him and Lock and Lamb. So you know with those 291 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.679 two in the team, they'll give most teams a good shake. 292 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:59.360 What does it mean? What do these results tonight mean 293 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:03.159 for all four teams? John Well? 294 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.320 I think, as I said, for Lee, it's yeah, it's 295 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:09.639 they've they've been building quietly the last couple of weeks 296 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.240 in terms of performances, and I think that one will 297 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:17.679 give them a fair bit of confidence. For Huddersfield, yeah, again, 298 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.159 they're kind of in this limbo period because they're looking 299 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.159 for a head coach. There's not been a lot of 300 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.440 chat about who that could be. I know, well they 301 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.519 didn't they didn't deny the John cart right now, but 302 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.799 I think that's you know, I think he's effectively on 303 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.080 guarding leave anyway, and I don't think that's that's going 304 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.519 to happen. But yeah, you would think they need to 305 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.120 pull their finger out and do something on the coach 306 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:43.159 in front. Obviously they did have those two wins, but 307 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:45.639 they've had two wins and now two losses under lem 308 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:49.840 Finn and I think the other issue of Ardisfield is 309 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.200 they really need to, you know, look at what they're doing. 310 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.039 For next year, so they need to get their recruitment 311 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.960 in order for to lose. 312 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.639 I think, as we said, yeah, I really struggle to see. 313 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.480 I don't really know what options they have in terms 314 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:07.400 of mixing up the team of the squad. But for York, 315 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.680 as I said that, they've still got a couple of 316 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:12.759 key players yet, but that'll be a huge I think 317 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.279 it was a really important win. I know Sky tried 318 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:16.720 to build as a mass win. I don't think it 319 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:18.640 was a mass win for them, but I think it 320 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.319 was a real good chance to get two points against 321 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:25.279 another team that's struggling and move up the table. 322 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:26.720 And you know, every. 323 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.599 Result when you've been promoted is precious and they got 324 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:31.079 it tonight. 325 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:40.160 Now, one thing I want to say to all fans 326 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.799 of teams, so you know, for example, Lee seem to 327 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:47.519 have I've had a little bit of resurgence. We're going 328 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.960 to go in on a bit of a crash course 329 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:54.440 in how to lose a game at the moment, so 330 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:58.519 on so forth. I think because of all the things 331 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.680 we've spoken about teams, there's going to be three or 332 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:06.640 four seasons within the same season in both competitions in 333 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.119 the NRL and in the Super League. So for example, 334 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:12.440 Penrith came out of the blocks really fast. If you 335 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.599 look at their two last two results, they've come back 336 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.680 to the pack a little bit, beaten by the Bulldogs 337 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.559 and only just scraped home by against the Dolphins. Now, 338 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.240 yes they won, but in comparison to all of the 339 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.119 other wins they had this year, it was a one 340 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:31.519 point field goal that separated them, whereas the other wins 341 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:36.720 were twenty or thirty points. Also, the roosters are are 342 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:39.839 often aside that don't look the best when they start 343 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.079 the season. I think more and more teams in the 344 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.880 NRL are starting to pace their year out in terms 345 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:47.920 of they don't want to peak too early at the 346 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:52.160 start of the year. In the Super League, I think 347 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:56.440 a lot of this was thrown upon them, including subtle 348 00:18:56.519 --> 00:18:58.279 rule changes in and around the ruck. 349 00:18:58.480 --> 00:18:59.359 And I think. 350 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:02.759 The other factor that we've got to throw in is 351 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.160 athletic preparation and injuries. So right, now in the NRL 352 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.279 of just one quick count on the NROL website, and 353 00:19:09.400 --> 00:19:13.359 people do dispute this, particularly the NROL physio on X. 354 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.960 But the seventy six players out of the National Rugby 355 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.160 League right now and I've counted for that, are suspended. 356 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.440 So that's seventy two players. That's an awful lot of players, 357 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.519 right and look at Origin already. Origin is starting to 358 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:31.880 get decimated in terms of stars in Super League. At 359 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.400 one point the injury count was over one hundred and 360 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:42.160 York have certainly added one to their list tonight. Your team, 361 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:46.359 if you are listening now, just need to get somebody's 362 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:50.079 back and their whole season could change and you could 363 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:52.960 be playing teams who are losing their bodies at that time. 364 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:58.240 So I think either by I wouldn't say by design, 365 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:03.599 but by accident, you are actually creating is a competition that, yes, 366 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:09.319 when when a higher place team, player newly promoted team, 367 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.119 or a lowly Super League side, they're probably going to 368 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:15.559 win quite heavily. But anybody who's in the same level 369 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.319 of the game, i e. For example, Lee and Huddersfield tonight, 370 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.279 you were looking at that wondering who was going to 371 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:29.359 win and because Lee have not been themselves, but they've 372 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:31.119 got a few bodies back all of a sudden, They've 373 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:34.079 got a very much morale boosting win. And confidence is 374 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.680 a massive thing. Confidence is a massive thing and I 375 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:43.119 see that all levels of the game. So to that end, 376 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:51.599 John with nine were nine rounds in Leeds Rhinos are top, 377 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.359 but hardly the most convincing leaders of Super League that 378 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:55.480 we've ever known. 379 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.880 Too. Yeah, No, I mean they've had they've had some blips. 380 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.440 No, they had a you could say they you know, 381 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.680 they lost round one now that massive win in Vegas, 382 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:09.119 had an upset lost in the Cup at Wakefield, and 383 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:14.640 then another big upset loss to LEFC. Yeah, there've been 384 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:19.720 anything but consistent. And then obviously Okay started the season poorly, 385 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.279 had that great winning the World Cup Challenge, but then 386 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:26.720 got absolutely blasted in Vegas. But then they've hit a 387 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:39.880 bit of a run, Wigan started well and pigs and 388 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:43.920 troughs and whatever, and particularly in Super legg I think 389 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:48.319 when you include the Challenge Cup and the fact that 390 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:51.720 the season is a lot longer, there's always you know, 391 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:53.960 ups and downs. 392 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:55.599 And I think it will be unpredictable. 393 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.640 Although in saying all of that, looking at what was 394 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.599 the top six today and I can't remember off the 395 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.279 top of my head, or maybe hok I was just out, 396 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:09.400 but I don't see. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think 397 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.240 will definitely finish in the sixth, but I don't see 398 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:15.680 apart from that they're being that much change obviously in 399 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:19.119 terms of play things. But I think the other six 400 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:24.720 teams in there are what Leeds, Warrington, Wiggins, Saint Helen's, Wakefield. 401 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.279