Speaker 1: After the hooter from super League three sixty York thirty
Speaker 1: eight to lose fourteen in round is it round nine
Speaker 1: of super League.
Speaker 2: My name is Lee Addison, My name is John Davidson.
Speaker 1: Tries for York from Vaughan who scored two, Galiano scored
Speaker 1: a hat trick and Buckingham scored goals were six by
Speaker 1: Cody Hunter to lose Lacan Okaine and ma and Rouge
Speaker 1: kicked a goal. York started a hell of a lot better, John, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean I think you're pretty much dominated this game for
Speaker 3: the majority. I thought they there forwards, ran ran hard
Speaker 3: and really dominated the middle to loose, didn't offer a
Speaker 3: lot in attack. And while they were, you know, to
Speaker 3: loose were the effort was there, they just didn't really
Speaker 3: have much to trouble York.
Speaker 1: I thought the standard of the game was pretty average.
Speaker 1: To be honest, I thought they both looked and this
Speaker 1: is going to sound really disrespectful, but we know why,
Speaker 1: and you've been saying this Adnas him. It looked like
Speaker 1: a high level championship game. Quite frankly, Paul Vaughan scored
Speaker 1: two tries and apparently it's his birthday because the commentator
Speaker 1: didn't stop mentioning it. But he was beaten by Galliano,
Speaker 1: who scored three. I think that's a sign John that
Speaker 1: the York played quite a lot of football today because
Speaker 1: Galliano got over the line three times.
Speaker 3: I think I think you probably harsh but fair in
Speaker 3: the sense that there was quite a few errors. It
Speaker 3: wasn't a really quite quality game. I think there was
Speaker 3: some nice bits at times. That played from Jesse d
Speaker 3: in the second half reminded me of you know, the
Speaker 3: back back thea reminded me of g I and Gazsnir
Speaker 3: and that Kangaroo's game.
Speaker 1: I think I think I was. I was at that
Speaker 1: game six. It was the ninth of May two thousand
Speaker 1: an eight.
Speaker 3: Mate. Yeah, but yeah, look, yeah, there was a lot
Speaker 3: of errors. There was quite a few knock ons. As
Speaker 3: I said, I thought to loose a bit of alarm
Speaker 3: bells there. They didn't really fire many shots. They did
Speaker 3: score a couple of consolation tries, but there's six tackle options.
Speaker 3: They're just they're not really getting much out of their
Speaker 3: out of their spine. And I thought York's forwards we
Speaker 3: were pretty dominant. New York's still missing, you know, their
Speaker 3: fallback is really influential there's seven and picked up a
Speaker 3: few more injuries so with Josh Griffin and Benison. But
Speaker 3: New York just, you know, we're really up for it,
Speaker 3: and you know, are really important two points for them,
Speaker 3: because I think it's them and to lose. Are on
Speaker 3: the bottom now, and obviously they'll they'll push up New
Speaker 3: York with that win.
Speaker 1: Two wins Olympiaker as I christened them when they won
Speaker 1: their first two games early. They're probably the epitome of
Speaker 1: what we've spoken about on the Super Leagues podcast an
Speaker 1: awful lot, which is the promoted teams have to start
Speaker 1: well because since then they've literally dropped right off. I
Speaker 1: felt like in attack they were too lateral. I thought
Speaker 1: they lacked punch. I thought that, you know, there wasn't
Speaker 1: enough in terms of coming back in on the angle
Speaker 1: or testing the line. The horse weren't testing the line enough.
Speaker 1: I noticed they've changed their defensive system a little bit too,
Speaker 1: to become more compressed, and that says a couple of
Speaker 1: things to me. That suggests that they're obviously scratching around
Speaker 1: looking for some answers, trying to change something strategically. But
Speaker 1: the reality is it doesn't matter if your players don't
Speaker 1: aim up defensively. You can have the greatest defensive system
Speaker 1: in the world, and if your players don't aim up.
Speaker 1: One fella worked awfully hard. That was hands the hooker, right.
Speaker 1: He did sixty two tackles according to the commentators after
Speaker 1: seventy eight minutes, and then I saw him in a
Speaker 1: couple more. And again that looking at your that suggests
Speaker 1: to me how much they dominated the middle, because the
Speaker 1: man in the middle for to lose is the one
Speaker 1: doing all those tackles, and York dominated the field position
Speaker 1: a lot too. I just just felt to lose just
Speaker 1: weren't in the races for the whole game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was a bad sign with the
Speaker 3: with the opening try, it was really soft for Paul Vaughn.
Speaker 3: Was just like they didn't they didn't come off the
Speaker 3: line the medium and you know, for a player of
Speaker 3: Paul Vaughn's size and experience, that was just mate potatoes.
Speaker 3: He just you know, soft try to start, which was
Speaker 3: a concern. And then they got that second try.
Speaker 2: Off a kick.
Speaker 3: And I think to Luis, we're lucky to because the
Speaker 3: astual bot incident. I think he had a he deserved
Speaker 3: the yellow card for that. You know that was you know,
Speaker 3: a shot to the to the head and there was
Speaker 3: you know, I think there was a bit of there's
Speaker 3: a bit of venue in that. I know, the the
Speaker 3: your player was it was falling but he didn't miss him.
Speaker 3: Uh so they got out of jail a little bit there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I think York were pretty dominant.
Speaker 3: It was it was a fairly one sided game.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I think I think to lose, you can see the
Speaker 3: efforts there. They're not there's no lack of effort. They're
Speaker 3: not trying. No, I think they're just they're just locked.
Speaker 3: They just sorry. They just lack a little bit of quality.
Speaker 3: And I think basically, yeah, I don't think there's the
Speaker 3: players out there, but but there's also the money for
Speaker 3: for that club to go out and sign them. So
Speaker 3: you know, when you look at the market and all
Speaker 3: these clubs are having massive injury issues, so they're all
Speaker 3: swimming in the same pool for players.
Speaker 2: But also to lose, don't.
Speaker 3: Have the you know, the catch considered, Yeah, the financial
Speaker 3: backing to go out and you know, pull in a
Speaker 3: big name something. So yeah, it's I think that is
Speaker 3: a it is a worrying sign for them. So what's
Speaker 3: that seven losses in a rono?
Speaker 1: No, it is, oh maybe if you include they didn't
Speaker 1: play coup did they? So it's not seven losses a
Speaker 1: role because because there's all with nine rounds. But they
Speaker 1: they were.
Speaker 2: And then they've lost the next seven.
Speaker 1: Did they win the first two?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah seven a roll then yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: are right. It was good for you there, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's scary actually, and it's the fear that we all
Speaker 1: that we all had on this podcast. Best players on
Speaker 1: the Field for you, John Paul McShane got the official
Speaker 1: man of the match. I think, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think he was his four hundredth game. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: had a fantastic career. He's still just got those little
Speaker 1: bits of class, you know, the kick from half, the
Speaker 1: little grub are just a really really smart player.
Speaker 2: I thought he was. He was a standout.
Speaker 3: I really liked the the I'm not exactly sure how
Speaker 3: old he is, but the half back Cody Hunter is
Speaker 3: another reserve grade obviously in New York team, but I
Speaker 3: think he's only played a couple of games in Super League.
Speaker 3: But he you know, lovely cut out pass in that
Speaker 3: first half and you know, just he looks like he's
Speaker 3: he's got a bit an ouse and again Jesse d
Speaker 3: really strong boar runner, Paul Vaughan again leading from the front,
Speaker 3: and you know, I thought Galiano, you know, he obviously
Speaker 3: picked up what three tries, but I think he's been
Speaker 3: good for most of York's games this season.
Speaker 2: He's been one of the standouts.
Speaker 1: Where's he from, Paul Gulliano, Scott Galliano?
Speaker 3: He is from the Sunshine Coast Falcons. I believe another
Speaker 3: was he Q Kupper. I had a look and this
Speaker 3: is not a criticism of York because I think it's
Speaker 3: more of a reflection of the talent pool in England.
Speaker 3: But nine of their seventeen were well eight of the
Speaker 3: seventeen were restrains and one was a key we So
Speaker 3: you know, that's more than more than half. And I
Speaker 3: think across the competition, with the increase in the business spots,
Speaker 3: you know we're seeing a lot lot more of that
Speaker 3: and that yeah, because there is you know, there's there's
Speaker 3: murmurs about fifteen teams next year and I don't really
Speaker 3: know how London would recruit a squad because there are
Speaker 3: only allowed ten foreign players. So if you you know
Speaker 3: if you need a squad of say thirty, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: There's something to consider. Anyway, Look, lipstick on a pig.
Speaker 1: I keep using that phrase, and somebody pulled me up
Speaker 1: and said, you look, that's your phrase. At the moment,
Speaker 1: it was my dad. Actually, boy, it's so true. It's
Speaker 1: it's just window dressing. I want to go into go
Speaker 1: into a bit more detail about this, right so people
Speaker 1: people will sit listening to this and think, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a negative. No, we're telling that. We're telling what what?
Speaker 1: What are facts in terms of reserve grade players coming
Speaker 1: into the Super League? And and I think one of
Speaker 1: the things that that is bearing out now is the
Speaker 1: results is getting a lot harder for these promoted teams.
Speaker 1: They're the ones who are going to be on the
Speaker 1: sharpest end of this recruitment problem. Secondly, that your crowd
Speaker 1: tonight was nothing compared to around one. Now, I know
Speaker 1: that's a very simple comparison, but I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what color the seats were in that stadium until tonight.
Speaker 1: So obviously the fans are starting to pick up on
Speaker 1: the fact that that it's getting tough for their team
Speaker 1: as well. Now I know, to lose wouldn't have brought
Speaker 1: any fans, many fans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's probably a more reflection of the
Speaker 3: crowds they get from the other local teams. Like I
Speaker 3: think obviously OK are first kind of season they would
Speaker 3: have taken a lot of fans, you know, I think
Speaker 3: probably three thousand or something. I think your season average
Speaker 3: last year was around the two and a half three thousand.
Speaker 3: Don't have a big fan base, but yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I've said this before, like York is like
Speaker 3: the same as to loosen even for Bradford. Some ways
Speaker 3: they are a long term particularly those other two clubs
Speaker 3: and not Bradford.
Speaker 2: They are more of a long term build, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and they should have been given the time to
Speaker 1: build long term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's yeah, we don't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to repeat the thing that The thing
Speaker 3: about the negativity and someone jokingly said that to me
Speaker 3: today when I sent them my North Wales story, the
Speaker 3: updated one that's in the ipaper it's online today, is
Speaker 3: you're always say negative. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: just reporting the massive kind of fraud that's going on.
Speaker 3: You know, we can look the other way, but all
Speaker 3: these things, all these things lea connected you know, the
Speaker 3: the drop in male participation feeds into the development structures
Speaker 3: or the lack of development structures and the cut of
Speaker 3: development officers. And then you know in the neglect of
Speaker 3: the championship re le one and the fact that there's
Speaker 3: now reserve team football then feeds into the top league
Speaker 3: and the fact that there isn't enough players ready for
Speaker 3: Super League means they've got to increase the visa, the
Speaker 3: quator amount and then they go and get more players,
Speaker 3: but they can't afford the best players from Australia or
Speaker 3: better players from australiagy zone, so they get the reserve
Speaker 3: grade players, which then impacts the product.
Speaker 2: It is all, as you know, all into linked.
Speaker 1: And in terms of negativity, John, when you and I
Speaker 1: get feedback, it's about us saying the things that nobody
Speaker 1: else says because we're not cheerleaders. Again, I want to
Speaker 1: quantify what I mean about about standards. So I thought
Speaker 1: standard wise, the game was slow, as in the players
Speaker 1: tend to lack pace and lack punch, and there's not
Speaker 1: an awful lot of X factor on the field. And
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the best things
Speaker 1: I can I can forward to some of that up
Speaker 1: right near the end there that to lose wing number
Speaker 1: two sorry his name escapes me. Got the ball in
Speaker 1: broken play and normally a wing or certainly in the
Speaker 1: NR well anyway, you're hard pressed to catch them. I
Speaker 1: think the wing had about five players around him in
Speaker 1: no time, even though he'd broken through half the field.
Speaker 1: So you know, this is just this is just the
Speaker 1: reality of it, and we're trying to we're trying to
Speaker 1: paint that picture. The other one is the injuries. And
Speaker 1: I saw footage of Josh Griffin on the sideline injured.
Speaker 1: I mean soon we're going to get a call up John.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It is every game now you seem to see at
Speaker 3: least two or three injuries, and I think Griffin's was
Speaker 3: a bicep or looks to be a boseet, which is
Speaker 3: obviously going to be a while. I think Bennison might
Speaker 3: have been an hio. But yeah, you're just getting you know,
Speaker 3: squads are absolutely got, and I think was at Bradford
Speaker 3: saying this week that I only had fifteen players to
Speaker 3: try and then drafted in Greg Aden from the Northwest Crusaders.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So you've got Super League clubs dipping in the levels below. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're getting down to bare bones. And we can debate
Speaker 3: whether that's because of the speeding up of the rules
Speaker 3: or shorter preseasons.
Speaker 2: There's probably a lot.
Speaker 3: Of factors for that, but the reality is it's not great.
Speaker 3: It's really bad film the players, but it's also going
Speaker 3: to affect the product on the field without doubt.
Speaker 1: I've been looking online for the opposite of unleashed, and
Speaker 1: words such as restrained, confined, bound, or leashed are the options.
Speaker 1: And that's of course referring to the Huddersfield giants who
Speaker 1: apparently were unleashed according to the director of Change. And
Speaker 1: that's just an in joke between me and John and
Speaker 1: everybody who listens to our stuff regularly or know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Lee Leopard's thirty Huddersfield sixteen in the
Speaker 1: other game tonight, And I've got to say, first of all,
Speaker 1: what people need to understand, sorry, they don't need to understand,
Speaker 1: they like them to understand, is that it was when
Speaker 1: there's two games on at tenny one time, it's actually
Speaker 1: a lottery as to which one I get to watch
Speaker 1: because they only show one on Fox. So luckily we're
Speaker 1: on the same game tonight, so neither of us have
Speaker 1: seen the Lee and Huddersfield game. The tries for Lee
Speaker 1: were two from Towels. Senior scored one, Lamb scored one
Speaker 1: and Charlie scored two. Cook kick Cook kicked three goals
Speaker 1: for them. For the Giant Swift Milne and Gag Guy
Speaker 1: with a try scorer as Zeno and kicked two goals.
Speaker 1: So good resultfull ye that positive win, big win. Halftime,
Speaker 1: it was twenty ten. Let's talk about Huddersfield. First, they're
Speaker 1: now leashed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Huddersfield a very poor last against Leeds.
Speaker 3: I think they've kind of reverted back to top because
Speaker 3: they've gone most of their I mean, I know they've
Speaker 3: got there have got some injuries, but they've got at
Speaker 3: least their key players back or most of them. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think I think this it's just reverting
Speaker 3: back to what we expect from Harnersfield from the least side.
Speaker 3: They they've gotten their players back and trying their players
Speaker 3: back the last few weeks and it's made a big difference.
Speaker 3: And you know they were much improved against Warrington a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks back and last weekend as well, so
Speaker 3: you can see them, if not going on a run,
Speaker 3: but definitely being a lot more competitive week to week
Speaker 3: because they do have they do have a favorite quality
Speaker 3: in that team.
Speaker 2: Lee.
Speaker 3: I think the difference last week I from correct was
Speaker 3: the first came back for a Pappy. He's massive for them,
Speaker 3: him and Lock and Lamb. So you know with those
Speaker 3: two in the team, they'll give most teams a good shake.
Speaker 1: What does it mean? What do these results tonight mean
Speaker 1: for all four teams? John Well?
Speaker 3: I think, as I said, for Lee, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 3: they've they've been building quietly the last couple of weeks
Speaker 3: in terms of performances, and I think that one will
Speaker 3: give them a fair bit of confidence. For Huddersfield, yeah, again,
Speaker 3: they're kind of in this limbo period because they're looking
Speaker 3: for a head coach. There's not been a lot of
Speaker 3: chat about who that could be. I know, well they
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't deny the John cart right now, but
Speaker 3: I think that's you know, I think he's effectively on
Speaker 3: guarding leave anyway, and I don't think that's that's going
Speaker 3: to happen. But yeah, you would think they need to
Speaker 3: pull their finger out and do something on the coach
Speaker 3: in front. Obviously they did have those two wins, but
Speaker 3: they've had two wins and now two losses under lem
Speaker 3: Finn and I think the other issue of Ardisfield is
Speaker 3: they really need to, you know, look at what they're doing.
Speaker 2: For next year, so they need to get their recruitment
Speaker 2: in order for to lose.
Speaker 3: I think, as we said, yeah, I really struggle to see.
Speaker 3: I don't really know what options they have in terms
Speaker 3: of mixing up the team of the squad. But for York,
Speaker 3: as I said that, they've still got a couple of
Speaker 3: key players yet, but that'll be a huge I think
Speaker 3: it was a really important win. I know Sky tried
Speaker 3: to build as a mass win. I don't think it
Speaker 3: was a mass win for them, but I think it
Speaker 3: was a real good chance to get two points against
Speaker 3: another team that's struggling and move up the table.
Speaker 2: And you know, every.
Speaker 3: Result when you've been promoted is precious and they got
Speaker 3: it tonight.
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I want to say to all fans
Speaker 1: of teams, so you know, for example, Lee seem to
Speaker 1: have I've had a little bit of resurgence. We're going
Speaker 1: to go in on a bit of a crash course
Speaker 1: in how to lose a game at the moment, so
Speaker 1: on so forth. I think because of all the things
Speaker 1: we've spoken about teams, there's going to be three or
Speaker 1: four seasons within the same season in both competitions in
Speaker 1: the NRL and in the Super League. So for example,
Speaker 1: Penrith came out of the blocks really fast. If you
Speaker 1: look at their two last two results, they've come back
Speaker 1: to the pack a little bit, beaten by the Bulldogs
Speaker 1: and only just scraped home by against the Dolphins. Now,
Speaker 1: yes they won, but in comparison to all of the
Speaker 1: other wins they had this year, it was a one
Speaker 1: point field goal that separated them, whereas the other wins
Speaker 1: were twenty or thirty points. Also, the roosters are are
Speaker 1: often aside that don't look the best when they start
Speaker 1: the season. I think more and more teams in the
Speaker 1: NRL are starting to pace their year out in terms
Speaker 1: of they don't want to peak too early at the
Speaker 1: start of the year. In the Super League, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of this was thrown upon them, including subtle
Speaker 1: rule changes in and around the ruck.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 1: The other factor that we've got to throw in is
Speaker 1: athletic preparation and injuries. So right, now in the NRL
Speaker 1: of just one quick count on the NROL website, and
Speaker 1: people do dispute this, particularly the NROL physio on X.
Speaker 1: But the seventy six players out of the National Rugby
Speaker 1: League right now and I've counted for that, are suspended.
Speaker 1: So that's seventy two players. That's an awful lot of players,
Speaker 1: right and look at Origin already. Origin is starting to
Speaker 1: get decimated in terms of stars in Super League. At
Speaker 1: one point the injury count was over one hundred and
Speaker 1: York have certainly added one to their list tonight. Your team,
Speaker 1: if you are listening now, just need to get somebody's
Speaker 1: back and their whole season could change and you could
Speaker 1: be playing teams who are losing their bodies at that time.
Speaker 1: So I think either by I wouldn't say by design,
Speaker 1: but by accident, you are actually creating is a competition that, yes,
Speaker 1: when when a higher place team, player newly promoted team,
Speaker 1: or a lowly Super League side, they're probably going to
Speaker 1: win quite heavily. But anybody who's in the same level
Speaker 1: of the game, i e. For example, Lee and Huddersfield tonight,
Speaker 1: you were looking at that wondering who was going to
Speaker 1: win and because Lee have not been themselves, but they've
Speaker 1: got a few bodies back all of a sudden, They've
Speaker 1: got a very much morale boosting win. And confidence is
Speaker 1: a massive thing. Confidence is a massive thing and I
Speaker 1: see that all levels of the game. So to that end,
Speaker 1: John with nine were nine rounds in Leeds Rhinos are top,
Speaker 1: but hardly the most convincing leaders of Super League that
Speaker 1: we've ever known.
Speaker 2: Too. Yeah, No, I mean they've had they've had some blips.
Speaker 3: No, they had a you could say they you know,
Speaker 3: they lost round one now that massive win in Vegas,
Speaker 3: had an upset lost in the Cup at Wakefield, and
Speaker 3: then another big upset loss to LEFC. Yeah, there've been
Speaker 3: anything but consistent. And then obviously Okay started the season poorly,
Speaker 3: had that great winning the World Cup Challenge, but then
Speaker 3: got absolutely blasted in Vegas. But then they've hit a
Speaker 3: bit of a run, Wigan started well and pigs and
Speaker 3: troughs and whatever, and particularly in Super legg I think
Speaker 3: when you include the Challenge Cup and the fact that
Speaker 3: the season is a lot longer, there's always you know,
Speaker 3: ups and downs.
Speaker 2: And I think it will be unpredictable.
Speaker 3: Although in saying all of that, looking at what was
Speaker 3: the top six today and I can't remember off the
Speaker 3: top of my head, or maybe hok I was just out,
Speaker 3: but I don't see. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 3: will definitely finish in the sixth, but I don't see
Speaker 3: apart from that they're being that much change obviously in
Speaker 3: terms of play things. But I think the other six
Speaker 3: teams in there are what Leeds, Warrington, Wiggins, Saint Helen's, Wakefield.
Speaker 1: I'll go through the table now because don't forget as well,
Speaker 1: Warrington and k Are have played one less game. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I pose too. Leeds are top, Wakefield, second, St Helen's third,
Speaker 1: Warrington fourth. Warrington are the first team on ten points.
Speaker 1: Everybody above them is on twelve. Wigan and Catalans are
Speaker 1: the other two teams on ten points.
Speaker 2: Bloody hell.
Speaker 1: Catalan's going all right in that context on eight points,
Speaker 1: seventh and eighth whole k Are and Lee. But like
Speaker 1: I said, ok, I have played one less game. Bradford
Speaker 1: Bulls are in ninth on sixth, all Left Ce are
Speaker 1: in tenth on and York Nights are now in eleventh
Speaker 1: on sixth. But there are teams around them that need
Speaker 1: to play this weekend Castleford twelfth on six, Huddersfield Giants
Speaker 1: have dropped to thirteenth on four and two wins. Olympeak
Speaker 1: are still on four at the bottom. So the table's
Speaker 1: been updated and that's where we're at. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you, John, the top six is and sorry, Hooky,
Speaker 1: I will get in there and then it's just a
Speaker 1: case of jockeying for position. But honestly, I must say
Speaker 1: to all fans of all teams, keep the face because
Speaker 1: again this is maybe to balance out the negativity. Okay,
Speaker 1: that a symptom of all this that's happening is some
Speaker 1: of your teams will get better one week because some
Speaker 1: players are there, and then other weeks they won't. And
Speaker 1: one thing about York tonight, they always aim up and
Speaker 1: that's a credit to their coach. Big fixture this weekend
Speaker 1: Wigan and Warrington, and then we're going to record Sunday
Speaker 1: because there's no rugby league on Sunday. And there's quite
Speaker 1: a few topics to talk about, John, including a new
Speaker 1: England coach that I think you and I championed or
Speaker 1: I did, anyway.
Speaker 2: He did definitely.
Speaker 3: Look, I think I think Brian mcdermot's got a great
Speaker 3: record particularly at Leeds. I think he is a good coach.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably interesting where his career has gone
Speaker 3: more recently after what happened at Toronto and then he
Speaker 3: went at Featherston and then he kind of fell off
Speaker 3: the map a bit and he's been down in the
Speaker 3: NFL as an assistant coach at Newcastle and then Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was obviously officially unveiled today on Saint
Speaker 3: George's Day with some video of him look like on
Speaker 3: the beach at surface or one of.
Speaker 2: The Blackpool wasn't Blackpool, It wasn't Blackpool.
Speaker 3: No, So yeah, you know, I think I think his
Speaker 3: quotes were there was a bit of a there was
Speaker 3: a bit of a point to dig at patriotism for
Speaker 3: optics sake, which I which I found quite funny. And
Speaker 3: there was obviously we can win it, which you could
Speaker 3: say was funny or you could say he's you know.
Speaker 1: He's that's his job. I think, yeah, exactly, he had
Speaker 1: a he had a veiled dig at Sean Wayne too
Speaker 1: in terms of Jake.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean he's got he's got to install
Speaker 3: a bit of confidence and a bit of positivity, hasn't he.
Speaker 3: So yeah, It's going to be an interesting right. He
Speaker 3: probably won't have any training sessions I imagined till a
Speaker 3: week or two before the World Cup, lots of Zoom
Speaker 3: meetings and online things, and you know, he said he's
Speaker 3: open to heritage players, so maybe we'll see Ben ben
Speaker 3: Tolti in the England team.
Speaker 1: They made a good point, even if he was even
Speaker 1: if he even if he was in England did have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of Zoom meetings for one reason
Speaker 1: or another, so he made him made a really good
Speaker 1: point about that. Look, whoever got the job is on
Speaker 1: something of a hiding to nothing, and therefore all we
Speaker 1: can all we can do as a nation, as a
Speaker 1: rugby league nation is is what you can do. And
Speaker 1: they didn't do what they could do, which was a
Speaker 1: point in a coach early. But now we are where
Speaker 1: we are and I think they've got the best person
Speaker 1: for the job. The only the only change I would
Speaker 1: have made is that I've probably gone Wayne Bennett for
Speaker 1: this tournament with Brian Macus's assystem, but maybe Wayne Bennett
Speaker 1: didn't want it. So look, I'm happy with a choice,
Speaker 1: and hopefully he's he does okay in the World Cup
Speaker 1: and he's given chance to rebuild what has been a
Speaker 1: really demoralizing England performance in the last Ashes series. But
Speaker 1: we're going into territory, are John, where we're doing a
Speaker 1: Someday's episode already, so we should probably.
Speaker 2: Leave it for that. We should.
Speaker 3: But if you've got any questions or topics for Sunday's recording,
Speaker 3: what are we were on Thursday night? So yes, send
Speaker 3: us in on Facebook chorus or I.
Speaker 1: Like this idea of recording on Sundays, John, because I
Speaker 1: don't have to get up early, so don't start organizing
Speaker 1: all these things with your kids on a Sunday morning.
Speaker 2: Now, Well, I.
Speaker 3: Will actually be in in Paris next Sunday, so we
Speaker 3: won't be recording the following after. Oh are you back
Speaker 3: Monday though? I am back Monday to a public holiday. Yes,
Speaker 3: so I will be back yeah on Monday.
Speaker 2: Lovely?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll worry about that next week.
Speaker 2: Take care,