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All right, at the last of the Sorry, 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,600 at the end of the last hour, I read to 11 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:40,359 you the harrowing but compelling and rich tale told by 12 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:44,719 Gary not my fault McFadden, Mecklemburg County's sheriff, who has 13 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:47,920 refused to cooperate with ICE, but tells everybody because he's 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,439 a liar, that he is cooperating with ICE. He tells 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,119 the tale that ICE had taken into custody a person 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,880 outside of the jail, I assume who had just been 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,920 released or something, and how he talked to these ICE 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,159 agents and he gave them his phone number, and he 19 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:09,120 needs to have some collaboration with them to protect everybody's safety. 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,959 He alone can do the safety protecting while not collaborating 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,480 with ICE. He's wanting, I guess ICE to call his 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,480 personal cell phone. I guess you know you know what. Ice, 23 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,840 Here you go. I'm going to give you some advice. Ice. Okay, 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,000 give McFadden's phone number to every single ICE agent involved 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,640 in any of these efforts, and they should just keep 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:43,959 calling Gary non stop. Just keep calling him every ten 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,799 minutes and asking him, are you turning anybody loose right now? Okay? Thanks? 28 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:52,840 Wait ten minutes, call him up again. Hey, are you 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,920 turning anybody loose right now? Okay? 30 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Hang up? 31 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:01,359 Speaker 1: Call back ten minutes, turning anybody loose right now? And 32 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:04,000 just keep doing that. I don't know any other way 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:09,360 around it. He refuses to call ICE to tell ICE 34 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:13,000 that they're about to release somebody who has gotten bonded 35 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,439 out or is allowed to leave the jail. ICE puts 36 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:21,039 in a detainer request on a person. That detainer request says, 37 00:02:21,319 --> 00:02:27,000 please call us at the following numbers forty eight hours 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,639 or as soon as possible before you release this person. 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,039 And McFadden's argument is that is not a requirement under 40 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,159 the law. He does not have to do that now. 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,759 His original argument was that he can't keep people for 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 the length of the detainer, the forty eight hours that 43 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:48,639 he cannot do that because he would have been sued. 44 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,960 So then the state came in and said, yes, you 45 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,080 can do that. And so now it's like, well, they 46 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,080 don't tell me, I have to call them. See, he's 47 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:03,159 constantly finding ways to no, not cooperate. It's very clear. 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,879 But he wants to now gaslight me and you and 49 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,680 everybody that the real impediment here is ICE not wanting 50 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:16,240 to work with him. It's crap, It's just garbage. But 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,639 that's our sheriff. Okay, So now that I have reset 52 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,280 the table, now we'll see if Tony is aware and 53 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 ready to talk, because I went to him earlier and 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,479 then he was not ready to chat. So Tony, are 55 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:29,840 you there? 56 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: Can you hear me? Sirt? 57 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,599 Speaker 1: I can hear you? Just fine? 58 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:33,759 Speaker 2: Now? 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,319 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I've kind of wanted to find out why 60 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,759 you're not calling out any of the surrounding county sheriffs, 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:46,439 Union County, Gason County, Cleveland County. I haven't heard anything 62 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:49,960 about them cooperating with ICE. I hadn't heard anything about 63 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,960 them not cooperating with ICE. So what is your information 64 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,960 about them? Department? 65 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: They are all cooperating with ICE. In fact, Gary McFadden 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,719 is one of only four sheriffs in the entire state 67 00:03:59,759 --> 00:04:01,280 that are not cooperating with ICE. 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,439 Speaker 3: So when you say cooperating, what are they doing? 69 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: They are alerting ICE that they've got somebody in their 70 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:13,000 jail arrested for something. And that person is okay, do 71 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:14,360 you want You don't want to hear the rest of 72 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,759 the answer there. You asked me how they're cooperating, and I. 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: Was explaining that, how do you how do you know that? 74 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: How do I know that? Well? Because ICE has said 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,720 the calling are. 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,079 Speaker 3: They calling you and saying hey man, we just I there? 77 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: Are they calling me in? 78 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: What are they call you and letting you know that 79 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,000 they're calling you Ice? How do you know that? 80 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,319 Speaker 1: They all say that, all of the sheriffs have done that. 81 00:04:37,319 --> 00:04:38,639 That's that, that's their process. 82 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:39,639 Speaker 3: You know that? 83 00:04:39,879 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: How do you how do you know? How do you know? 84 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:42,879 You're on the radio right. 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,079 Speaker 3: Now because I'm talking to an idiot. 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: No, that doesn't matter. That could be a figment of 87 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:52,199 your imagination. You don't know anything, Tony. I mean that's 88 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,360 actually more true than just this case. But like you 89 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,439 hear and this man, yes, I do absolutely I bashed 90 00:04:59,439 --> 00:05:00,360 the man solutely. 91 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:03,959 Speaker 3: That's that's not his job to call. Yes it is, 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,560 that's not in his description, is it is Graff a sheriff? 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,800 That was not in the description. 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,079 Speaker 1: No, I know he made campaign prompt No, Tony, he 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,399 made campaign promises that he would not cooperate with ICE, 96 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,519 and so me bashing him for not cooperating with Ice, Well, 97 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:20,720 it's completely it's completely logical. 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: Well no, no, no, it's not logic. 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: How is it not logical? 100 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,959 Speaker 3: Definitely not logic. 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:26,639 Speaker 1: How is that? 102 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: Well, for one, you should, for one, at least you 103 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:34,920 should give him credit. Uh no, at least keeping those words, 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,480 because all these other politicians get up there and lie. 105 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,399 But that's not his job. That is not in the 106 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:44,839 shrift the sheriff job description? 107 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: What is in what is in? What is in the 108 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,160 sheriff's job description? 109 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,639 Speaker 3: Listen, listen? Why can't Ice set up an office in 110 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,639 the sheriff department? 111 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: They did, They had something that well, they had the 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,399 next best thing to exactly what you've just described. It 113 00:05:58,439 --> 00:06:01,120 was called the two eighty seven G program and he 114 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:01,639 scraped it. 115 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: Okay, what happened with that? 116 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: He dismantled it, He scrapped it. 117 00:06:06,879 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: Okay, well Nessie, I don't see why he would do that. 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,439 Speaker 1: Because he said he would not cooperate with ICE, and 119 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,600 they had a two eighty seven g program that facilitated 120 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:18,160 this very thing. And the first thing he did when 121 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:20,560 he took over as sheriff was he scrapped it. 122 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,519 Speaker 3: I'm telling you go right ahead. 123 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: And look it up, Tony. Tony, just because you're ignorant 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,879 of something doesn't mean it's not true. 125 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,439 Speaker 3: No no, I don't believe you, not one bit. 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,519 Speaker 1: But you don't have to believe me, Tony. You go 127 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,639 do your own research. I dare you too. I dare you. 128 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I'm gonna do. Good because Jess the 129 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:42,240 only sheriff that's the only sheriff that you are no meaning. 130 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:44,759 Speaker 1: It's not oh no, no, no no. I he is 131 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:47,199 the only sheriff that I call not my fault McFadden, 132 00:06:47,399 --> 00:06:49,040 because he's the one that I have that I have 133 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:53,160 more direct knowledge of and his actions. But the other sheriffs, 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 there's one in Durham, there was one up in Asheville, 135 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,360 Quentin Miller. He got elected when I was still up 136 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:00,800 there at the time too, and they all ran because 137 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,600 this was twenty eighteen. They all ran on the same 138 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,439 promise to scrap the two eighty seven G program and 139 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:09,519 to stop cooperating with ICE. 140 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so why can't that just be legislated? 141 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:16,439 Speaker 1: Why do you think the state legislature has passed a 142 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,120 law trying to force the sheriffs to comply with the 143 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,560 ICE detainer requests, and now they're having to do another 144 00:07:23,639 --> 00:07:27,120 piece of legislation to try to stop McFadden from ignoring 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,680 the phone from not making the phone calls. 146 00:07:30,399 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: I'm not making the phone calls. 147 00:07:31,879 --> 00:07:35,079 Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to. Like, McFadden keeps finding ways 148 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,480 to not cooperate with ICE, and the state legislature has 149 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,000 now done one law. They're fixing to do a second 150 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,240 one directly aimed at McFadden and the Durham Sheriff and 151 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,680 the Astville Sheriff to try to get them to comply 152 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,959 to cooperate with ICE. 153 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,319 Speaker 3: Well, let's see how that works. Happened. Let's be obviously 154 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:01,199 obviously it's something that that's wrong about it. Uh, if 155 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,920 it's not, he's not breaking the law, because he's not. 156 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,639 Speaker 1: I did did I say he's breaking the law? Did 157 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:07,720 I say he's breaking the law? 158 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:10,399 Speaker 3: No, he's not, but you act like he is. 159 00:08:10,439 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I never said he's breaking a law. 160 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:15,879 Speaker 3: Doing his job. No, he's not. 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: What is his job again, what's his job description? 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: His job is he's the sheriff of Mecklinburg County. 163 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: That's his title. What's his job description? You keep mentioning 164 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,319 his job description. What is the job description. 165 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:31,279 Speaker 3: He's the sheriff of Mecklenburg, that's the title. 166 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: What's the job description? Last chance? 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,519 Speaker 3: You tell me? 168 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,039 Speaker 1: No, you tell me because you seem to know what 169 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,960 it is, what it is in it, and what is 170 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,559 not in it. County, you can keep Tony, Tony, you 171 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,320 can keep screaming that he is the sheriff of Mecklinburg 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,519 County and it doesn't advance the conversation at all. You Tony, Tony, 173 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:54,960 you said, you said that it is not in his 174 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,720 job description. I asked you what is his job description? 175 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,679 And you obviously do not know. That's my point. You 176 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:06,679 don't know, So you're making an argument, Tony. Once again, 177 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,120 you are making an argument berest of knowledge. 178 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: You just you just you just calling this man out 179 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:13,720 because you don't like him. 180 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:16,399 Speaker 1: No, I'm calling him out for his actions, Tony. I'm 181 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:21,240 calling him out for his Do you well, do you 182 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,720 like a sheriff that oversees a jail that has a 183 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:29,879 dozen people die in custody? Do you like that? That's okay? Yeah? 184 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,840 Do you know what he's what his record has been 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,639 running the jail? 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,399 Speaker 3: You said a dozen people have died in his custom? 187 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 188 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:40,759 Speaker 3: Well how many? How many? How many prisoners have died 189 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:42,919 in Central Prison in Raleigh, North Carolina? 190 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Not a dozen? 191 00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 192 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:49,039 Speaker 1: Not a dozen? Yeah? See Gary McFadden. Gary McFadden's jail 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,919 has been investigated by the state under the Roy Cooper 194 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:57,879 administration multiple times, cited for failures, which which which families 195 00:09:57,919 --> 00:10:00,679 are suing him and the jail and the the county 196 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:05,519 over those failures. See this isn't it, Tony, Tony, Tony, 197 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,799 I got a run. But you should just do one thing. 198 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,879 Aside from looking up the two eighty seven g program 199 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,440 and educating yourself on that, another thing you should do 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,039 is entertain the possibility that the reason why I am 201 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,639 so hard on this guy is because he is a 202 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,000 terrible sheriff. It's got nothing to do with anything other 203 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,399 than that he's not good at the gig. The Charlotte 204 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:29,200 Observer Editorial Board agrees with me on that he is 205 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:35,840 not fit for the office. Tony Call again enjoyed it all? 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Bill Malugin 227 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:43,399 at Fox News, I'm gonna get to your calls, James, 228 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,759 Chris Standlin real quick. I want to give this breaking news. 229 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,559 Federal Judge William Oric, an Obama appointee in California, has 230 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:56,840 now blocked the Trump administration from terminating federal funding for 231 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:04,919 sanctuary jurisdictions. The cities and counties, he says, have also 232 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:09,519 demonstrated a likelihood of irreparable harm. The threat to withhold 233 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:14,279 funding causes them irreparable injury in the form of budgetary uncertainty, 234 00:12:14,919 --> 00:12:19,639 deprivation of constitutional rights, and undermining trust between the cities 235 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:26,039 and counties and the communities they serve. Congress better do 236 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:32,639 something about this, all right, James, Welcome to the program. 237 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,919 Speaker 2: Hey James, how are you doing. Brother? 238 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's going on? 239 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just after that phone call, man, 240 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:40,840 I don't know if I should be the guy to 241 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:47,200 talk to No. You know, a couple of things I 242 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,879 want to like reiterate. You know, the sheriff is the 243 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,320 highest law of the land, and you know when you 244 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:56,879 have a man in that position, he's supposed to do 245 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,600 his job at the highest law of the land. And look, 246 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:07,279 if you got somebody that's deported or illegally in this country, 247 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,279 you know you're supposed to do your job. I mean, 248 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,120 and hopefully we're getting things better to where all these 249 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,720 different agencies are talking together. But the thing is there 250 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,000 illegally for some reason. And you know, yeah, maybe they 251 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,879 have some good family this and this and that or 252 00:13:27,919 --> 00:13:31,919 whatever in this country, but they're here illegally, right. 253 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: Two thing is yeah, but. 254 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, But my point is he's not doing his job. 255 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:43,360 I mean, why would you never communicate with ice, Why 256 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,000 would you never communicate with the other authorities. I mean, 257 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:52,679 if this guy's incarcerated, it's for a reason. Right. 258 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: So the thing to keep in mind here is that 259 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,720 if you are an illegal alien and you are in 260 00:13:57,759 --> 00:14:01,200 the Mecklenburg County jail, you are there because you were 261 00:14:01,279 --> 00:14:05,399 picked up and arrested for some crime, not being. 262 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: Issues then just being illegal. 263 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,039 Speaker 1: Correct, not being here illegally. That that is not the 264 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,720 That is not why you're in the jail. You're in 265 00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:15,440 the jail because you violated a law. You were picked 266 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,960 up by police and they brought you to the jail 267 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,200 so you could be held until you're bond and then 268 00:14:22,519 --> 00:14:25,360 you can bond out. But the Ice people are like, hey, 269 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,360 you're about to you got somebody he is deportable. Hold 270 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:33,639 on to them, We'll come get them. And Uh, can I. 271 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,039 Speaker 2: Ask you something? How how can it is it constitutionally 272 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:44,720 correct that you have a legal American in there and 273 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:51,080 they're prosecuted one way and then illegal is prosecuted another way. 274 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're not. I don't No, I 275 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,639 don't believe there's a difference there. I don't believe there's 276 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:57,360 a difference in the. 277 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: There is, but there is. The point is my point 278 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,080 is like, if I got incarcerated, I'm going to be 279 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,799 whatever I did. I mean, just pick whatever crime. He 280 00:15:08,399 --> 00:15:13,480 will be fully prosecuted. Well, why are they treated the same? 281 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: They are for that crime, not for the deportation exactly. 282 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,519 Speaker 2: But and I'm trying to get there, I'm trying to 283 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:25,919 get around the corner. But the thing is there, weren't 284 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,600 I mean, they came in here illegally. Why the hell 285 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,120 would our sheriff never give them to the proper authorities 286 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,919 to take care of it properly? 287 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: Because his voter base put him in that office in 288 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:45,279 twenty eighteen based on the promise that he would not 289 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:46,440 cooperate with ICE. 290 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:48,879 Speaker 2: That's what that makes no sense. 291 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: No, it does because the previous sheriff, I remember when 292 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,480 the two eighty seven G program started up here in 293 00:15:54,559 --> 00:15:58,440 Mecklimber County, Sheriff Jim Pendograph had a bunch of news conferences. 294 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:01,120 I interviewed him many many times over the years. He 295 00:16:01,159 --> 00:16:03,200 then got a job with the Bush administration where he 296 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,399 told other sheriff's offices around the nation how to do 297 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,039 this two eighty seven G program, and he helped others 298 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,799 implement it, and it started spreading all over the country, 299 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,039 and then you had a backlash against it by the time. 300 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,159 So after Pentagraph, it was Chip Bailey, and then after Bailey, 301 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,840 it was I'm drawing a blank on his name, Carmichael, 302 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,200 and they all kept yeah. So he had the two 303 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,399 eighty seven G program that that existed and was used 304 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:32,200 to identify and an alert ICE and then ICE would 305 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,399 come get them. And then when McFadden took over when 306 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,600 he won the election, he the first thing he did, 307 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,279 after he fired a bunch of Carmichael's people, he then 308 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:44,799 scrapped two eighty seven G. And that's why he and 309 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,279 he blinded himself basically to illegal aliens that are in 310 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 the jails. That was his promise, and he has said 311 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,720 in his public press statements, he has said that he 312 00:16:55,759 --> 00:17:00,320 does not believe deportation will solve the illegal immigration problem. 313 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:02,799 He's flat out said that the Holy ship. 314 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:04,559 Speaker 2: What are you going to do else with them? I 315 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:07,680 mean they're not here legally. I mean what are we 316 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,480 supposed to do? Just pay for their life forever as 317 00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:12,960 a hard paying taxpayer. 318 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, But my other point, no, he just doesn't want 319 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,640 them incarcerated. He doesn't he doesn't want them to be deported. 320 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,119 He'll incarcerate them if they commit a crime. But if 321 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,720 they are, if they bond out, he's not going to 322 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:27,759 tell Ice that they're bonding them out. James. I appreciate 323 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:30,160 the call. By the way, he said hold the ship 324 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:34,880 just in case anybody was curious. Chris, Welcome to the program. 325 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 4: Hello, Chris, Hey, bete Hey, real quick. I just wanted 326 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,640 to say that if I've never heard a better drop 327 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,839 the mic moment than you were when you wrapped up 328 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:51,480 with Tony. You handled it great, but you would think it. 329 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,480 You know, every time he calls he's get sent to school, 330 00:17:54,519 --> 00:17:57,079 you would think hopefully one day he comes back with 331 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,880 something different, but you it's always a homework he has 332 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,359 to come back and do. But he never seems to 333 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,599 change his point of view. 334 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: But that is true. Well, I appreciate that. I am 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,400 curious the next time if Tony ever does call again, 336 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,720 I have to try to remember to ask him what 337 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:19,720 he learned about the two eighty seven G program because 338 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,799 I have a suspicion. Yeah, I have a suspicion he's 339 00:18:22,839 --> 00:18:24,759 not actually going to go look that up. 340 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: No, I'll say that tongue in cheek. Yeah, he gets 341 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,079 he gets sent to school every time he calls. But 342 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,440 well you would think at some point it would, you know, 343 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,440 come back and say, oh, you were right. But that's 344 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,200 not gonna happen here. 345 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: No, yeah, because he would have to do the homework first, 346 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,279 and Tony doesn't strike me as the kind of guy 347 00:18:40,279 --> 00:18:42,640 that does that kind of homework. So yeah, Chris, I 348 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:48,960 appreciate the call. All right, thank you, I appreciate it. Man. Yeah, 349 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Twitter is blowing up here. Shannon says, bless you forever 350 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:57,240 engaging with quote unquote Tony the erm or urn Sorry 351 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:03,920 says maybe McFadden could implement like the one Mississippi two, 352 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,640 Mississippi three, Mississippi four, Mississippi five, Mississippi. Go the McFadden 353 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 way or the highway. Yeah, like give everybody as they 354 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,640 come out of the jail, you got to give them 355 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,359 five seconds. Or as another one mentioned, three steps, give 356 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:22,240 me three steps. Tony's opinion to fact ratio is horrible, 357 00:19:22,279 --> 00:19:25,960 says Jonathan. Gary says Tony is a moron, makes a 358 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,920 moronic statement, can't defend himself when challenged and called you 359 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,160 an idiot. Tony should go to Cleveland County and challenge 360 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Sheriff Allan Norman about if he enforces the law. Please 361 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,279 tell me how that goes well in the Union County 362 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:40,920 Sheriff I interviewed him a couple months back at the 363 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,720 barbecue and we talked about this and he said, yeah, 364 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:47,880 we you come into our jail, we're gonna tell ice, 365 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,559 they're gonna take you away. I'm not trying to punish 366 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,519 you with Tony. Tony seems to have two criteria dem 367 00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:01,480 party and race. It does doesn't matter how incompetent or 368 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:04,839 bad somebody is at their job. And Steve says, Tony's 369 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,400 dumbassary is always good for a laugh. Indeed, it is. 370 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:12,839 It's like a cat playing with a ball of yarn. 371 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,960 For me, you know, I just I can't help myself. 372 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,839 Here's a great idea. 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I cannot 396 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,000 decipher exactly where it occurred, but it sounds like it 397 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:48,359 kind of occurred outside the doors of the jail yesterday 398 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:56,039 at about noon, where some civilian alerted him or the 399 00:21:56,039 --> 00:21:58,799 Sheriff's office or something to the fact that there were 400 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,960 guys out front without any ice markings or law enforcement 401 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,480 markings that were handcuffing somebody and taking them into custody. 402 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,119 And this so alarmed the person that they called up 403 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,480 either Gary himself or somebody at the jail or somebody 404 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:20,799 I don't know, he doesn't say, just a member of 405 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:23,759 the public. But with this sheriff, he could be lying 406 00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:27,759 about that I don't know, and so but he witnessed. 407 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,640 He then says he witnessed it. So I'm not sure 408 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,759 how fast or how fast he was able to get 409 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:34,720 down from his office, or how close he may have been, 410 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:36,880 but he got the call and he immediately swoops on 411 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,160 over there to be able to talk to these three 412 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:47,519 ICE agents and stressing the need for collaboration. This is 413 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:52,359 the guy that refuses to call them. He refuses to 414 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:59,359 call them again. I don't know where this operation took place. 415 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480 It sounds like it took place outside the doors, which 416 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:07,920 actually makes sense because I'm not so sure the Sheriff's 417 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,039 office would allow the ICE agents in there to take 418 00:23:11,079 --> 00:23:15,440 somebody into custody. Maybe they would, I don't know. But 419 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,920 obviously ICE somehow knew that this person was about to 420 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,480 be released or something, or would be there at the time, 421 00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,039 or maybe they followed them there right because as I 422 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,720 told the story about a month ago of the ICE 423 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:35,759 operation that occurred literally in front of my door from 424 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:41,279 somebody who lived down the street, and they had vehicles 425 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:44,240 set up and when he came down the road, they 426 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,279 surrounded him. He tried to run, he crashed his car. 427 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:52,480 An ICE agent rammed him to immobilize the vehicle, and 428 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:54,680 then he got out and he started running through the neighborhood. 429 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,640 He ran down behind people's homes, scared the beageebis out 430 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,599 of some little kids that were playing in their basement. 431 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,920 And they got him and they brought him and they 432 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,119 brought him back. They threw him in the car and 433 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,480 then all the agents took off. They never searched his car, 434 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,960 That's what that was about. They never searched the car, right, 435 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:16,640 so they didn't care what was in the car. This 436 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,839 guy had some order of deportation on him, and they 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,400 they waited for him and they got him. So I 438 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,599 suspect something similar occurred yesterday at the courthouse. And Gary 439 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,400 is all upset about this. So he gives these ice 440 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,519 agents his personal cell phone number. For what purpose? For 441 00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,720 what purpose? You're not calling them? Are you gonna call them? 442 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,880 Are you gonna let them know? Hey, we've had this guy, 443 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,240 we'll call him Abrago Garcia. We've had him in the 444 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,480 UH in our jail for you know, two months, and 445 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,400 oh he just bonded out. He just finally got the 446 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,519 bond together and he's getting out. And so just a 447 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,519 heads up, if you want to take him into custody, 448 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:08,720 you can get him before he bonds out because the 449 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:17,720 safer thing to do for the community, particularly the migrant community, 450 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:23,400 is to take this person into custody at the jail 451 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:27,440 while you still have control over him. It's not to 452 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:29,920 let him walk out the door where he could then 453 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,440 get into a fight with somebody with the agents injure people, 454 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,680 he takes off running, gets hit by a car, causes 455 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,400 an accident, whatever like. Now you have increased the variabilities 456 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,440 to such a degree that you've made it dangerous. That's 457 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,119 why you do it in the court, or you do 458 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,279 it in the jailhouse. That's why ICE wants to take 459 00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:54,119 custody of these people in the jails. They've already been 460 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,160 arrested for some sort of criminal activity. This isn't getting 461 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,759 picked up for driving without a license. They've done something 462 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,279 to warrant their arrest. They are in the jail. They 463 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:09,000 are illegal aliens that committed some crime for which they 464 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,319 were arrested, and ICE would like you to hold on 465 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,119 to them and give them a heads up so they 466 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,039 can come get them in a secure environment. And McFadden 467 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,799 refuses to do it. He campaigned on a promise not 468 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,920 to cooperate. The state legislature had to pass a law 469 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,759 to try to force him to cooperate, and then he 470 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:36,279 found a way to continue not cooperating because the detainer 471 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:41,000 request from ICE to the Sheriff's office requests a phone call. 472 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,279 It doesn't mandate, see, and if it doesn't mandate the call, 473 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:45,839 then I don't have to do that and I shouldn't 474 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:46,880 have to call them. What do they want me to 475 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,519 call every time? 476 00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: No? 477 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: Just these guys, Gary, Just these ones, the ones that 478 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:57,200 have the deportation detainer requests on them, Call ICE for them. 479 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,200 But no, he doesn't want to. He's got to be 480 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:05,400 seen as fighting ICE. But he also wants you to 481 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,720 believe that he's willing to collaborate. He wants to cooperate, 482 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,440 and that's garbage. He is lying. That's what narcissistic sociopaths do. 483 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,400 Not that I am qualified to diagnose him as such. 484 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720 It just kind of seems like that. But he lies 485 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,839 and he uses language to manipulate. That's what he did 486 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,880 with this press release. There's no reason to send out 487 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,240 this press release. Why would he send out a press release? 488 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Nobody knew this happened. Look at me, everybody, I'm willing 489 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:41,240 to cooperate. Look at me, Look at me, Ugh, it's 490 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,720 just so tedious, but it's also very dangerous. He's the 491 00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:51,920 top law enforcement officer in Mecklenburg County. And again I 492 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,119 would point out local Democrat officials in the court system 493 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:02,079 can petition to remove him. There is a way to 494 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:07,960 get him removed from office for maladministration, and Democrats have 495 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:12,240 to do that. You are all complicit, all right. So 496 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,759 spring is here a time of renewal and celebrations. 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We'd 516 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,680 have a conversation, learn a little from each other's experiences, 517 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,200 and stress test preconceived notions. I've come to realize that 518 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880 you couldn't even discuss the merits of chocolate versu. Vanilla 519 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,599 ice cream because he would deny the existence of one 520 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:42,839 of those. It's probably true, Good Wahoo, says Pete McFadden 521 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,359 is a total clown, but unfortunately a dangerous one who 522 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,640 has literally made Mecklenberg County more dangerous for its residents 523 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,920 and law enforcement that must deal with his policies. But 524 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,599 what is even more disturbing is he is just a 525 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,519 reflection of far too many voters who vote for him 526 00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:01,359 over and over, knowing how ba sad he is, all 527 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,359 seemingly in some sort of cut your nose off despite 528 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:08,519 your face irrational behavior. Oh, and Tony is a prime 529 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:18,359 example of that. We have some more breaking news. A 530 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,759 judge has now blocked parts of Trump's election executive order, 531 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:33,680 including the proof of citizenship mandate for voter registration. There 532 00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:38,519 was actually another trying to find out where it is. 533 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,359 It had to do with the oh, it's a block 534 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:49,240 an order blocking his order on no teaching DEI. A 535 00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:57,119 judge just issued an injunction against that too. Here it is, well, 536 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,359 Mike Davis with the Article three project. He says, I 537 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:06,200 want to get this straight. Biden can set up DEI, 538 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,920 which is illegal racial discrimination. So he can set it up, 539 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,359 but Trump can't end it. Right. That's where we are. 540 00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:20,079 District Court enters injunction effective immediately barring Trump administration's implementation 541 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:26,440 of Department of Education efforts to combat DEI. Remember the 542 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,079 show I did on the fourth Turning. One of the 543 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:38,160 predictions that has yet to occur, that the author, the 544 00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:40,759 loan surviving author. There were two of them. One of 545 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:45,039 them passed away. But one of the predictions was that 546 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,599 in the fourth turning or season, if you will, and 547 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,839 we are in the fourth turning, he says, now, which 548 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:56,200 is the winter the winter is marked by crisis. He 549 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,759 identified he predicted back in nineteen ninety six a series 550 00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:03,759 of events, all of which came true, except for the 551 00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:10,640 final prediction, which was about a nullification crisis. That's what 552 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,480 he believed would occur. There would be a nullification crisis 553 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880 of some kind. And he has talked about and we 554 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:25,960 played clips of this. He talked about it being states 555 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:30,240 versus federal right, or a city versus federal, or a 556 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,920 city versus state, or something like that, like these governmental 557 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:37,480 units against each other, much like the Civil War. Nullification 558 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,720 at the heart of that right, and there isn't an 559 00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:45,960 off ramp for these governmental entities and the people who 560 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,480 populate the offices, there's no off ramp for them because 561 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,880 they're both asserting power against the other and then neither 562 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880 one can back away, and so it just keeps getting 563 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:09,480 ratcheted up. And I am wondering if judicial nullification counts 564 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,720 because the fourth turning is marked by crisis. And in 565 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,319 American history, the turnings are each about twenty years. They 566 00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:24,400 trace this pattern back throughout American history but also in 567 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,759 other societies as well. And after four turnings, four twenty 568 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,960 year increments, you basically have an entirely new population, almost 569 00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:36,759 an entirely new population, because everybody has died and been replaced, 570 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:41,359 and so people now do not remember the last winter, 571 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,240 the last crisis season. They're all gone. And you think 572 00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:49,599 about it, our I mean, the generation that remembers the 573 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,839 Great Depression in World War II, that generation is now 574 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,599 largely passed. And it's a very, very in depth on 575 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,759 all of the different turnings, and they're you know, what 576 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,160 they're marked by and all of this. But this fourth 577 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,359 turning is the one where you have the crisis of 578 00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:09,400 some kind. And in American history it has always been war. 579 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:16,960 Now the cause is can be internal or external or both. 580 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:21,360 And he one of his predictions in the fourth turning 581 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:27,840 would be to would be this nullification crisis. And I'm 582 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,159 looking at all of these orders from all of these judges, 583 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,480 and the center is not holding, folks, it's not holding. 584 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,360 I keep telling people, recognize where we are, you know. 585 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,159 And I'm not saying that to scare people. I'm saying 586 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,960 that to prepare people, myself included. I don't know what 587 00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,840 this is going to look like. I'm just like you, 588 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,800 I have no idea. I'm just looking at these signs 589 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,760 and I see more and more judges that are now 590 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,039 becoming more and more embolden. I'm seeing a US Supreme 591 00:34:56,039 --> 00:35:00,280 Court that's refusing to reign in their courts because those 592 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,360 federal district courts, they are there to lighten the load 593 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,079 of the US Supreme Court. They're there to dispose of 594 00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:10,880 cases that never go all the way up to the 595 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,440 US Supreme Court level. And if this is what we 596 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,159 are now seeing, this kind of behavior among these judges, 597 00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:22,400 just blocking anything that the president is doing, even when 598 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,840 he's when he's tearing up an executive order that the 599 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,039 previous guy did, Like what are we doing here, guys? 600 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,960 And where is Congress? What are you guys doing? Because 601 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,159 at some point the executive branch is going to say, 602 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,159 just like Jackson, right now, let's see him enforce it. 603 00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,079 He has his order. That's great, Now let's see him 604 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,159 enforce it. What do you think happens? 605 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: Then? 606 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. 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