WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:10.759 House Whisperer on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Hey follow 3 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:14.279 us on social media? Why don't you? We only do 4 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:19.480 the good kind of social media uplifting, informative, inspiring posts 5 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.480 on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook x. We're all over the place. 6 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:27.920 Home with Dean is the handle for them all, super 7 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.719 easy to find and while you're there, hit follow, hit like, 8 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:36.280 share some posts with your friends. Also, if your home 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.920 is in need of some personal house Whisper attention, you 10 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.479 listen to the show and you're like, you know what 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.880 we really need. 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Nicole, Welcome home. 24 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:29.000 Hi, good morning, Dean, thank you. So my question is. 25 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.120 Yeah, go ahead. Sorry, oh sorry. 26 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.200 I'm in the process of choosing a kitchen countertop and 27 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:40.760 I tend to use bleach based cleaning products regularly. Could 28 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:43.799 you recommend a countertop that is resistant to bleach or 29 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:47.640 that could stand a frequent cleaning with these kind of products, 30 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:51.359 I'm looking for something that's durable and affordable. 31 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:56.519 And yeah, yeah, okay. Well, as far as I mean 32 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:04.480 being resistant to bleach, about any natural stone will do that. However, 33 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.519 the bleach is going to affect the seiler that you 34 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.400 put on the stone, and that means increasing the amount 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.080 of time that you spend resealing the stone. Like on 36 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:19.800 granites and things like quartzites. There is some concern that 37 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:25.039 people have had when it comes to quartz countertops, meaning 38 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:30.199 synthetic countertops with heavy amounts of bleach as well, although 39 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:37.199 most quartz countertops, that is, man made synthetic countertops tend 40 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:41.000 to be far more resilient to that kind of harsh 41 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:46.360 chemical than the natural stones in general in general. So 42 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:48.919 I get it. More important to me, though, is what 43 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:55.000 you're using your countertops for. You cook a lot that 44 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.479 kind of thing. Give me some insight there. 45 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.680 No, not really cooking a lot. 46 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:03.439 I mean I do cook, but it's just I like 47 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:07.759 to clean. I'm a bit of a germaphoe. Okay, everything 48 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.039 just gets bleached. 49 00:03:11.439 --> 00:03:14.439 Okay. Let me ask you this. Do you have anything 50 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.360 against a dark countertop? 51 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:21.759 No other than I have dark floors. 52 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:27.439 Okay, but you could put a lighter cabinet in between 53 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:29.000 the two if you want it. The only reason I'm 54 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:33.719 asking is if you want a natural stone countertop that 55 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:38.919 is in fact the ultimate in uh in clean ability. 56 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.400 If you want something that's truly bomb proof, then you 57 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:47.800 should take a look at soapstone countertops. Okay, soapstone is 58 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.759 it is soft? Now, when I say soft, some people 59 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.800 run for the hills, like, no, can't have it. It's 60 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.479 a rock. Okay, it's a rock, all right. So it's 61 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:02.639 you know, it's it's it's soft as a relative term, 62 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:08.599 it's stone. But the thing with soapstone is that it 63 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:13.199 is the most dense natural stone that we use for 64 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:17.360 counter materials that is available to us on planet Earth. 65 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:23.040 Soapstone is so dense. It requires no ceiling, zero ceiling whatsoever. 66 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.920 You can do anything to it anything. And I speak 67 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.519 not only from design experience and builder experience, but I 68 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.600 have soapstone island in my sitting in my own kitchen 69 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.399 for this very reason, because I do cook a lot. Okay, 70 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.920 and you remember when we were in school, in chemistry class, 71 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:47.279 you were sitting behind those dark countertops and chemistry class 72 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:54.079 soapstone and the reason they're there one hundred percent heat resistant. 73 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.439 You can take. I can take a cast iron skillet 74 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.879 out of a five hundred degree oven and just set 75 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:03.680 it on my soapstone island directly. No trivet, no anything, 76 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:08.680 does zero things to the soapstone. I can pour acid, 77 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.680 wine vinegar all over my soapstone countertop will not etch. 78 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:18.720 It cannot be etched by acid, cannot be burnt by 79 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:23.959 conventional cooking methods whatsoever, does not need to be sealed. 80 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.720 And to bring its vibrants back, all we do is 81 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:31.920 we'll take a cloth and put a little bit of 82 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:36.319 mineral food grade mineral oil like the stuff that you 83 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.199 use to condition a cutting board, and give it one 84 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.079 wipe across the surface and boom, all of its vibrants 85 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:48.839 right back at you, and it will last that way forever, essentially, 86 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:52.439 so you can clean it with just about anything you 87 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:56.079 want to clean it with and have the peace of 88 00:05:56.199 --> 00:06:00.639 mind knowing that with zero porosity, there is no place, 89 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.600 no place for germs to get below the surface and 90 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.240 high and as and as a result, as a result 91 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.680 uh nicole, you don't have to clean it with as 92 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.560 caustic a material as uh you know, as as you 93 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:18.720 would be led to clean other countertops with, because there's 94 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.079 literally it's like it's like having a stainless steel surface. 95 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.959 There's literally no place for germs or bacteria to hide 96 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:30.680 down in the porosity of the stone. And so there 97 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.639 it is. It's just that easy to take care of 98 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:36.560 and it's that trouble free. So that would be a recommendation. 99 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.600 The reason I asked, though, the qualifying question, it's not 100 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.120 going to be for everybody because it's a dark material. 101 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.639 It comes in absolute black. The lightest that it gets 102 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.319 is kind of a sea foam blue or green. But 103 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.120 but it's a darker material. But it's worth checking out. 104 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:54.959 You should. You should check it out and look at 105 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.680 it and just know that, yeah, well, Dean was right, 106 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.240 that's the most bomb proof material. It can be integrated 107 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.319 beautifully into a kitchen if you're if you're down for 108 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.000 the dark countertops, that's all I'm saying. 109 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.839 Yeah, no, that's I'm not opposed to dark countertops. Like 110 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.319 you said, it just seems to go right around the cabinets. 111 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:15.160 So that's yeah. 112 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:18.120 Okay, thank you, Gosh, what to release? 113 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.959 All right, there you go. Call. It looks like it's 114 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.759 going to be a good new year for you. Thank 115 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.199 you so much for the call. Great question, great question. 116 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:33.519 There are no stupid questions everybody. There are only stupid 117 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:37.399 answers from stupid radio hosts, and I try not to 118 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.079 be either one of those, although you know, not one 119 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:44.199 hundred percent. Anyway, more of your calls when we return. 120 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.839 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 121 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.399 KFI AM six forty. 122 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.439 Thanks for joining us on the program today. We're talking 123 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.920 about trends and predictions for twenty twenty five. We'll get 124 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.199 back to that in a bit, but right now I'm 125 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.600 taking calls. I want to go back to the phones. 126 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:07.720 Let's talk to Linda. Hey, Linda, welcome home. 127 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.519 Oh Dean, so glad you took my call. 128 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.519 I have a question regarding go ahead. 129 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:21.959 Oh sorry, I have a question regarding self cleaning ovens. 130 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.959 I had an old one, like in nineteen seventy eight. 131 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:29.360 Oh keeping merit double oven and use the self cleaning 132 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.159 all the time, all the time. Then I moved here 133 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.879 and the appliances that people put in iseving new and 134 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.600 is a oh my goodness, it is a w What 135 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:45.879 is that? Anyway, it's a newer unit and I haven't 136 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:49.559 used it, and I just recently started hearing about not 137 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:53.840 using this self cleaning device because it has such high temperatures, 138 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.639 which I know it does, that it will destroy the 139 00:08:56.679 --> 00:08:58.879 heating elements. 140 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:05.320 Okay, all right, well that's yeah, Okay, So here's the thing. 141 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.080 Self cleaning ovens are a real thing, and that feature 142 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:18.840 is there and it works. However, any modern day oven 143 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.960 will oven manufacturer will tell you to not overuse the 144 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.960 self cleaning feature, and because it's true, it was even 145 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.039 true of the old ones too, But it's true in 146 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:38.600 general that the more you use the self cleaning feature, 147 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.799 the more you kind of wear out the oven. Doesn't 148 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.720 mean that it's gonna that any self cleaning cycle is 149 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.840 going to destroy the heating element. It just means that 150 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.679 the heating element is really designed on an oven to 151 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.519 go from you know, one hundred plus degrees one hundred 152 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:56.320 and fifty degrees up to five. Some go to five 153 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:00.440 point fifty, but roughly that. But when you self cleaning oven, 154 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:05.240 you're ramping that up by another two hundred degrees or so. 155 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:09.080 That's why the door locks so that nobody can accidentally 156 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.159 get access to it. The door locks off because it 157 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.600 gets above seven hundred degrees inside that oven in order 158 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:20.480 to get to carbonize essentially whatever stuff is stuck to 159 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.480 the inside of the oven. The way that a modern oven, 160 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.120 a lot of models that are coming out, like literally 161 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.879 last year, this year and so on, make up for 162 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.679 that is a lot of them will have a what 163 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.480 they call a missed cleaning feature, in which you either 164 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.360 it's either built in, you know, connected a water line 165 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:44.120 connected to the oven that steams it, or you can 166 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:47.360 actually fill up a steam reservoir, or you can just 167 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.159 simply put a pan with water in the oven and 168 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.639 allow it to steam out the oven. That's not as 169 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:57.279 intense as the self cleaning function. In fact, you don't 170 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.159 have to kick it into self cleaning mode. But what 171 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.799 it will do is if you do that more frequently, 172 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.759 then you can avoid the major you know, what we 173 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.320 call the nuclear option on cleaning the oven using the 174 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.919 self cleaning feature. So yeah, there is a there's amount 175 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.399 of truth to the fact that a self cleaning feature 176 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:20.720 will put does put a lot of stress on an oven. 177 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.559 Now have I any experience whatsoever personally with self cleaning 178 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:30.600 a newer oven messing it up zero? I have no 179 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:34.080 personal experience with that whatsoever. I do know this, though, 180 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.399 that every appliance guru I've ever talked to has said 181 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:43.080 that the older the oven gets in age, probably the 182 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.759 less you should use the self cleaning feature, because it 183 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:49.159 does put a lot of stress in strain. It's like, 184 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:50.919 you know, it's like you got a Okay, I've got 185 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.399 a fifteen year old car with three hundred thousand miles 186 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.279 on it. Maybe not the best idea to drive it 187 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.720 cross country at one hundred miles an hour because it 188 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.879 puts a lot of stress and strain on the mechanisms 189 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.720 that are aging there. So I don't see if there's 190 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:10.960 any reason to avoid self cleaning. But I would always 191 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.639 just tell people, and I try and practice this myself, 192 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.559 you know, just deal with the little spills gradually as 193 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:21.600 you go, and use the steam cleaning function if it 194 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.120 has one, or just get some internet advice as to 195 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.120 how to do that yourself if it doesn't have one, 196 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.559 and avoid the self cleaning as much as possible. I mean, 197 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.759 I've got a really good double oven. I've got a 198 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:38.840 ge profile double even that I absolutely love, and we've 199 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.440 never used the self cleaning feature on it because you know, 200 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.279 I just tend to I do my best to keep 201 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.200 up with the little spills and the issues as we 202 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.320 go so that we don't have to throw it into 203 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:50.639 nuclear mode. 204 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.679 That's what I was doing the other night. I was 205 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.440 cleaning it with spots and stuff that I had gotten 206 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.600 on the even. But you know, I thought about the 207 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.000 thing that I was reading about the self cleaning, right, Oh, 208 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.879 this is a question for Dean, and I just wanted 209 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:09.679 to make sure that I was doing the right thing 210 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:12.000 by use it or not using it. So far, in 211 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:15.080 the fouries i've lived here, I haven't used it, but 212 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.799 by Ovin is spotless at the same time, so you know, 213 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:18.799 I'm grateful for that. 214 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.320 Yeah, there you go, There you go. I mean I 215 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.559 kind of look at it. I think if you just 216 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.879 kind of keep in your mind that it's the nuclear option. 217 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:30.279 I mean, you know, Heaven forbid that we ever have 218 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.399 to use the nuclear option. That's kind of my approach 219 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.720 to it. I will, I will not the real nuclear option, 220 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:40.799 but my oven, you know, uh, you know if I 221 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:42.720 have to, you know, because I like to keep it 222 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:44.879 clean oven. So if I've gotten to the point where 223 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.559 if something has happened in there, like something exploded or 224 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.159 something something that I just literally like the normal methods 225 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:54.679 aren't cleaning it, then gosh, dang it, you know what, 226 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.120 I'm going to lock it up and use the self 227 00:13:57.159 --> 00:13:59.440 cleaning mode. But I don't I'm not going to use 228 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.360 it regularly, and I'm going to do everything I can 229 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.840 to avoid using it because I know the kind of 230 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.039 stress and strain it puts on the system itself. That's all. 231 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:10.840 It's just simply that much. It's just that everybody shouldn't 232 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:12.039 run to first. 233 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.919 I believe that. That's why my old nineteen seventy eight 234 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.559 Okeith Merritt last fits for long. I only used it 235 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:20.240 once a year. 236 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:21.639 Yeah, there you go. 237 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.159 I'm grateful for that, but I didn't know that this 238 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:29.159 was a problem possibly in the future. So anyway, regardless, 239 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:32.159 I like your answer, and I appreciate you taking the time. 240 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.440 Thanks Linda, have a great new year. Thank you for 241 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:39.039 the question. All right, y'all, when we come back more 242 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:44.120 trends end predictions for twenty twenty five. 243 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:48.559 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 244 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.039 KFI AM six forty. 245 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.440 You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. That 246 00:14:56.840 --> 00:15:01.480 is me. We are spending the final weekend of twenty 247 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:06.200 twenty four talking about trends and predictions in the world 248 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:10.440 of design, home design and decor and so on. For you. 249 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.080 I've got a big list and I'm just moving through 250 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:19.679 as we go here. So let's get back to it. Okay, 251 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:24.440 here's one that I actually am and continue to be 252 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:29.320 excited about. What is hot coming in twenty twenty five. 253 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.080 It has already been a thing in twenty four and 254 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:38.240 twenty three before it keeping rooms and public facing cooking. Okay, 255 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.360 that's two different things, but let me break it up 256 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.000 for you. Keeping room. Do you know what a keeping 257 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:48.279 room is? A keeping room is a very very old 258 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:54.279 concept that I am thrilled is making a big return 259 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.080 because the time has come for because it works with 260 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:02.919 us as a culture now. A keeping room dates back 261 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.200 all the way to a colonial America I mean a 262 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:13.240 time when the hearth, the fire that basically, you know, 263 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.879 is what is keeping us all warm and cooking our 264 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:25.320 food was the center of life and activity in a home. Okay, 265 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.639 it's literally why to this day we still use those 266 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:35.600 phrases like hearth and home, right, as as as as 267 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:40.440 examples or ways of expressing how important the centrality of 268 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:43.879 home is to us. Hearth, hearth and home. The hearth 269 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:49.879 over the and around the fire is about this era 270 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:55.159 in which you know, there's no central heating, and there's 271 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:59.039 no isolated kitchens. There's a big old fire, and there's 272 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.159 a pot of stew or meat roasting on that fire. 273 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:08.000 And also everyone else in the household is nearby, now 274 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.039 not nearby sitting at a table, but nearby, sitting near 275 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:18.680 and or around the fire, keeping warm. Right. So, as 276 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:24.440 this architectural concept continues to develop prior to central heating 277 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:28.640 and all of that kind of stuff, these areas developed 278 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:36.279 into actual rooms, keeping rooms that are directly adjacent to 279 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:39.359 the kitchen area. So what is a keeping room in 280 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:44.839 the twenty first century? Some of you might equate it 281 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:47.400 to I mean, a lot of people have the potential 282 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:49.839 of having a keeping room. Let me say this because 283 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:53.160 you have a breakfast room or a morning room and 284 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.279 it's a relatively smaller space that you've got a smaller 285 00:17:57.359 --> 00:18:02.039 table sitting in, and that is sort of the twenty 286 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:06.839 first century equivalent of the keeping room. However, a breakfast 287 00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:09.920 room or a morning room is not a keeping room 288 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.960 if there's a table sitting in it for you to 289 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:15.279 have your meals at. In fact, I would go so 290 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:17.519 far as to say, and I've seen this again and 291 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:22.440 again and again as I've walked through your home, that 292 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:28.319 the breakfast room or the morning room is an overused, small, 293 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:33.599 kind of cramped area, and the dining room is sitting 294 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.920 there completely abandoned and neglected. Part of that is because 295 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:41.799 the home itself wasn't built well for the dining room 296 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.839 to really be accessible and lovely, or we're hanging on 297 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:53.519 to some over run concept of dining rooms having to 298 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:56.480 be this formal, beautiful thing that we don't want to 299 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:02.680 use every day. I personally for most of the mainstream 300 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.880 homes that we are asked to consult on and or 301 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.920 do redesign work for, I like the idea of you 302 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.839 using every home, every room in your home, and nothing 303 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:20.400 just sitting there dead as it were, So, I like 304 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:23.440 the idea of finding a way that you can eat 305 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.640 your meals in your dining room, you know, dining in 306 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:30.680 the dining room, and that includes breakfast and lunch as well. 307 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:35.720 So whenever possible, we try and create a dining room that, 308 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.480 sure it can handle the feast and the more formal, 309 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:44.160 entertaining occasion, but is also super pleasant to actually be 310 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:52.119 in and have smaller, less formal, more intimate meals in. Right. 311 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:55.359 So setting that aside, that turns us back to this 312 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.039 space that has been allocated as the morning room. And 313 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.200 I don't get me wrong, I have no issue with 314 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.240 a morning room and a little cafe table and all 315 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:10.279 of that. But that space could be, under the skillful 316 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:15.000 hands of a remodeled designer, could be transformed into a 317 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:19.240 keeping room. Now the difference would be this. The difference 318 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:23.680 would be, instead of cafe, another dining area set there. 319 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:29.160 A chair or maybe two chairs, comfortable chairs would be 320 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:32.359 sitting there, maybe a couple of a chair or two 321 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.799 with a table a small table in between them, facing 322 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.480 and oriented towards the kitchen. Because we've come to the 323 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.640 place now with our open concept plans of kitchen and 324 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.680 family room being quite often all integrated together in this 325 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:54.119 keeping room space. It's not there to keep warm in 326 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:58.640 the traditional sense of staying near the hearth. But if 327 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:02.759 we interpret the heart as kitchen, then a keeping room 328 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.119 is literally a space for somebody who isn't in the 329 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:11.119 way of the cook. Okay, you're not in the kitchen proper, 330 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.079 you're not sitting there prepping and helping out with the meal, 331 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.759 but you are interacting with whoever is in the kitchen 332 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.839 in the most comfortable and natural way possible. That is 333 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:27.359 a keeping room, and it really is a brilliant concept 334 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.319 if you can pull it off. And it's a super 335 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.640 comfortable concept if you can pull it off, because we 336 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:38.119 all love to spend time in, you know, interacting with 337 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.680 people who are you know, sometimes working for us on 338 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.400 our behalf preparing meals in the kitchen. So what is 339 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.799 hot for twenty twenty five That is fully legit in 340 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:53.480 my opinion, the keeping room. The idea of keeping rooms 341 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:58.799 is growing in popularity once again, stretching all the way back, 342 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:03.559 finding its heritage in the early colonial days when literally 343 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.559 you'd want to be in there to stay warm. Now 344 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.559 it's an application of that connectivity and that relationship, and 345 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.920 they're very, very elegant. They can be elegant and beautiful, 346 00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:17.920 they're informal, and it's really a great way to go. 347 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.640 And this ties in with the second idea, which is 348 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:24.480 public facing cooking and what do we mean by that 349 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.160 straight And this is not about something that you buy 350 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:31.359 versus anything else. But if you're thinking about a kitchen remodel, 351 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.079 then this is a question that I ask every single 352 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:41.359 one of my clients who are pondering an island or 353 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:45.759 a peninsula, and that is it's been very popular in 354 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:48.680 the past, especially they started doing this in the eighties 355 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.519 and in the nineties that you know, we're showing off 356 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:56.039 a kitchen island by putting a kitchen sink in the island, 357 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.880 big sink in the island, and maybe that works for 358 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.400 you with your orientation of your kitchen. In some islands, 359 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:06.599 a kitchen sink will work in this sense without getting 360 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:09.839 in the way of anything else happening as far as 361 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.000 social interaction. But if you can imagine that there are 362 00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:17.200 other people with you there in the kitchen area, or 363 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.839 people in the adjoining room or maybe a keeping room, 364 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:26.000 the question becomes this, do you want to spend your 365 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:29.680 whole time cooking with your back to everybody else and 366 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:34.119 then face them when you're doing the dishes. Or would 367 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.559 you rather spend all that time cooking facing the room, 368 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.440 facing the family room, facing your guests, facing your friends, 369 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.799 interacting with them face to face as you cook, and 370 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:49.440 then spend your time with your back turn to somebody 371 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.920 while you're doing the dishes. I have found that ninety 372 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.640 percent of my clients prefer when given the option, they'd 373 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.599 rather face everybody while they're cooking and have the sink 374 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.519 back behind them. So what is a trend that has 375 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.160 been moving forward now consistently for a number of years, 376 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.240 but is very very alive and well coming into twenty 377 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.039 twenty five for a kitchen remodel, It's the idea that 378 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:19.839 we build either the peninsula or the island in such 379 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.680 a way that you can stand in the kitchen and 380 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:27.519 cook and be a part of what's happening all the 381 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:31.759 other conversations that are happening around you, instead of having 382 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.400 your back to everybody and kind of being disconnected from 383 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:39.119 that experience. So hot for twenty twenty five, keeping rooms 384 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:44.400 and public facing cooking. Think about keeping the sink on 385 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.759 the outside wall, keeping the sink back behind you, or 386 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.720 to the side of you, and if it's all possible, 387 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:54.039 maybe put that cook top, not the oven so much, 388 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:57.440 but the cook top in such a place that you 389 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:03.240 can stand and fa your friends and your family as 390 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:07.200 you prepare their food. It just enhances that experience so 391 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.119 much more. All Right, when we come back after the break, 392 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:17.720 let's talk about lamps and lighting fixtures. What's the story 393 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:19.680 with them? For twenty twenty five. 394 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:23.640 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 395 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:27.599 KFI AM six forty. 396 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:33.119 Hey. We're talking about trends and predictions for design, decore 397 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.839 and so on for twenty twenty five. I'm trying to 398 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.480 push aside the bs talk about the brilliant and cautionary 399 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:43.559 tales on some of the other things as well. So 400 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.759 stick with me as we continue on in our list. Also, though, 401 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.160