Speaker 1: Adventist Radio London inspiration for the song.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm down at frog More Care and Wellbeing Center.
Speaker 2: This is the day center that my mum actually goes to.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of sitting here with the manager.
Speaker 1: He has kind of given up their.
Speaker 2: Time away from the activities for today just to tell
Speaker 2: us a little bit about what she does and the
Speaker 2: center that has been a real support to me and
Speaker 2: my mum.
Speaker 1: So Hi, Karen.
Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Karen Jackson.
Speaker 4: I'm the center manager at Frogmore. We are a day
Speaker 4: center mainly for dementia clients. I would say probably about
Speaker 4: ninety five percent, and our aim is to just give
Speaker 4: our clients a lovely day in a safe environment, lots
Speaker 4: of fun, lots of laughter, a lovely meal, and give
Speaker 4: the cars families some respite.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: And how long has the sense have been open?
Speaker 4: We will have been open two years in November.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, because I kind of remember when, because I
Speaker 2: know my mum had her diagnosis just before COVID hit,
Speaker 2: so a lot of things had kind of shut down
Speaker 2: and there wasn't much available for things to do at
Speaker 2: but then things opened back up again. This was one
Speaker 2: of the first places that I was like, oh, there
Speaker 2: is this center reopening, and I thought, oh, this looks
Speaker 2: really cool. And I remember coming down here and kind
Speaker 2: of having a look around and thinking, oh, this looks
Speaker 2: like a quine, a cool place. Yeah, and my mum's
Speaker 2: been coming here ever since, which actually is quite a
Speaker 2: long time. So tell a little bit about yourself and
Speaker 2: your background and how you got into this kind of work.
Speaker 4: I started about seventeen years ago. I decided to have
Speaker 4: a career change. Started as a support worker, enjoyed it
Speaker 4: so much that I decided to go up the ladder,
Speaker 4: if you want to call it that, and obviously now
Speaker 4: the manager. It's the best job I can honestly say
Speaker 4: that I've ever had. It's so fulfilling and rewarding, and
Speaker 4: our aim is just to really make their lives lovely.
Speaker 1: And he said he had a career change.
Speaker 2: What kind of drew you to support work in terms
Speaker 2: of working, you know, in a caring environment.
Speaker 3: I think it was because I've.
Speaker 4: Always looked after my sisters, and I've always looked after
Speaker 4: my nan and granddad, so I was always caring. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was just I saw the advert and just
Speaker 4: so I don't know why, but I've really got to
Speaker 4: go for that, okay, And I don't know, it's just like.
Speaker 5: A sign.
Speaker 1: And had you had in.
Speaker 2: Much experience or connections with dementia previous to that?
Speaker 3: Not one bit, okay, No, not one bit at all.
Speaker 4: But the training that we received is next to none
Speaker 4: and it gives you so much confidence to deal with
Speaker 4: any situation, which is valuable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say it takes a real special
Speaker 2: person to work with a dementia client. I would say,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying that for my own experience, the
Speaker 2: town of challenges that I've found not knowing, you know,
Speaker 2: you come across something and they're not know ever, So
Speaker 2: what would you say would be the qualities to kind
Speaker 2: of do the job that you do.
Speaker 4: I think you've got to have a care in nature.
Speaker 4: You've got to be very patient and just want to
Speaker 4: enrich the lives of our clients. And I can honestly
Speaker 4: say that all my staff do that. Yeah, we are here.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent of the clients. We ask them what
Speaker 4: they would like to do. If somebody might want to
Speaker 4: do a particular activity, if we would do that, and
Speaker 4: then we would work on from there. We've got different
Speaker 4: activities that people like, so we might split the group
Speaker 4: and do different things.
Speaker 3: So we are catering always for everyone.
Speaker 4: We've got people that don't like to join in but
Speaker 4: like to watch other people joining in, and that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like our clients have made friends, which is
Speaker 4: really lovely. Yeah, and I think we do provide a
Speaker 4: need in the community.
Speaker 2: Okay, so tell me a little bit about Tell me
Speaker 2: what a day at a center looks like.
Speaker 1: Now, I say that I bring my mum.
Speaker 2: My mum comes here at least two or three days
Speaker 2: a week, so and I know you obviously the center
Speaker 2: as full in terms of how many service users you have.
Speaker 2: So tell me what an average day kind of looks like.
Speaker 2: I mean, you've sort of said you want to provide activities,
Speaker 2: have fun, you know, provide the clients with a good day.
Speaker 1: So what does that look like?
Speaker 3: Well, starts off in the mornings.
Speaker 4: We have some people coming in by families, some people
Speaker 4: come in by taxi, and some people arrive on the bus.
Speaker 4: So as people come in, we sit in chat with them,
Speaker 4: We make them tea, kate, coffee, whatever they would like.
Speaker 4: Hot chocolate is a firm favorite. Even your mum likes
Speaker 4: a hot chocolate. And we start the day sort of
Speaker 4: quite low key until everybody gets in. Then we ask
Speaker 4: them what activities they would like to do, as I said.
Speaker 3: And we go from there. They are.
Speaker 4: Just completely able to do what they want to do.
Speaker 3: There's no.
Speaker 4: Nothing that they can't do right. Yeah, they're in a
Speaker 4: safe environment. They can just do whatever makes them happy.
Speaker 4: Then lunchtime, obviously they have a home cooked meal by
Speaker 4: a lovely cook Marilyn and them. Afterwards they have teas,
Speaker 4: coffees and sometimes I like to play bingo, sometimes croocket.
Speaker 4: We've got lots of different activities and they can choose
Speaker 4: and we usually go with them. Majority Then it's home
Speaker 4: time and we get them ready for going home and
Speaker 4: they've had a good day and where you look forward
Speaker 4: to seeing them again.
Speaker 3: And it's become like a family.
Speaker 4: Definitely to the staff, they feel like our family, and
Speaker 4: that's how we treat them. We just actually, you just
Speaker 4: get to love everyone. It's so love. It's such a love.
Speaker 4: It's the best job I've ever had in my love.
Speaker 4: It's not a job. It's not a job, it's a vocatient.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The Sexy says, you kind of got a mixture of
Speaker 2: men women and how does that what does that kind
Speaker 2: of look like.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it mainly women, mainly men half and half.
Speaker 4: Or it used to be I'd say about fifteen years
Speaker 4: ago mainly women to quite a high degree, like there'd
Speaker 4: be one man. Now it's a good half and half.
Speaker 4: We've got a lot of men. And we do find
Speaker 4: that they can and become quite competitive on certain days
Speaker 4: with the games, and they will request to do boys
Speaker 4: against girls and they make up their own team names,
Speaker 4: which is fantastic, and we all do have a good
Speaker 4: laugh about that. It's lovely. It's just lovely to see
Speaker 4: them interacting with each other.
Speaker 3: It's wonderful.
Speaker 2: What are some of the sort of like the highlights
Speaker 2: that you've had working I guess in the care industry,
Speaker 2: but also here at the center and then sort of
Speaker 2: on the flip side. What have been some of the
Speaker 2: challenges because I can imagine, I mean, you said it's
Speaker 2: a vacation, it's not the job.
Speaker 1: Recording. You know, what's the highlights for you?
Speaker 4: I think the highlights are sometimes when the clients first
Speaker 4: start to come, they might not the men. Weirdly enough,
Speaker 4: the men are more likely to resist attending than the
Speaker 4: women because I think the women in general are they've
Speaker 4: been more social throughout their lives with going to the
Speaker 4: school with the kids, and we chat more, don't we
Speaker 4: We're more sort of interactive with each other, whereas the
Speaker 4: men mainly have worked all their lives and they've got
Speaker 4: that sort of interaction. But to come into a center
Speaker 4: not as forward as the women. But when they come
Speaker 4: in and they say, oh hi, I'm here again, and
Speaker 4: when they go home and they said I've had a
Speaker 4: fantastic day, that's heart melting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lovely, and I know sometimes you do. I
Speaker 2: get here to up Mum, and you know, Mum's generally
Speaker 2: in a good mood. She's often been singing, dancing, and
Speaker 2: whilst obviously from a dementia perspective, sometimes the memories aren't there,
Speaker 2: I still know that she's had a good day. She
Speaker 2: might not be able to tell me exactly what she
Speaker 2: did all day because she can't really recall, but I
Speaker 2: know because she's in a good mood that she's generally
Speaker 2: had a good day. And I see the way she
Speaker 2: interacts with the team and everything else, so you know,
Speaker 2: and that's definitely heartwarming for me because I know whatever's
Speaker 2: happened that's been a good day for her and definitely,
Speaker 2: so what are some of the challenges on the flip side.
Speaker 4: I think some times we have challenges that might be
Speaker 4: missing the partner. And again this is usually the gentleman.
Speaker 4: They are conscious of time, worrying if they're ever going
Speaker 4: to be picked up, thinking that they might be staying
Speaker 4: overnight because they may think that they are in a
Speaker 4: home rather than a day center. But with lots of
Speaker 4: TLC and reassurance, we get through that to the stage
Speaker 4: where I have one gentleman that I have requested his
Speaker 4: wife to get a medication check for his anxiety, and
Speaker 4: he will about half two we close it three half
Speaker 4: two will come in and sit in the office with
Speaker 4: May and he will watch the cars go by because
Speaker 4: he knows she's coming soon. And that's absolutely fine, and
Speaker 4: that's a routine that he's got into.
Speaker 3: But up to that point he's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not letting go of that little last bit.
Speaker 3: But you know, you do get there in the end.
Speaker 2: So I guess with that you're kind of adapting to
Speaker 2: the needs. You adapted to every individual. We treat everybody
Speaker 2: as an individual. Yeah, so today is World Alzeimer's Day,
Speaker 2: and obviously September is World azim Month, and obviously dementia.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of kind of talk around dementia and
Speaker 2: which obviously we're doing this show, we obviously previously have
Speaker 2: this platform to be able to highlight it. The thing
Speaker 2: this year which what was an interesting one was time
Speaker 2: to Act on Dementia, Time to Act on Alzheimer's How
Speaker 2: would you interpret that, FEME and what would it mean
Speaker 2: to you and why do you think it's important?
Speaker 4: I think that a lot of time, people that are
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the dementia journey are missed and
Speaker 4: it progresses quite a lot, and then you're a crisis
Speaker 4: by the time you get any help. And I do
Speaker 4: think time is the most important thing once you start
Speaker 4: realizing there's little things that are going on to get
Speaker 4: a diagnosis, because obviously medication is an important part of
Speaker 4: we're not controlling it, but slowing it down a little,
Speaker 4: so give a the client person extra sort of quality time.
Speaker 4: So that is we find that we don't get people
Speaker 4: until there's been a breakdown, perhaps in the family, which
Speaker 4: is so sad because then everybody is affected and.
Speaker 3: You know families do break down because of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think then there's a kind of a
Speaker 2: lot of kind of misconceptions and myths around dementias. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've sort of read that sometimes people think, you know,
Speaker 2: memory loss or some of the sort of unusual behaviors
Speaker 2: that you might start to see or present itself or
Speaker 2: just part of the aging process, which actually and that
Speaker 2: seems to kind of normalize it. But then as you said,
Speaker 2: they're probably the signs that something is going on.
Speaker 1: And I know from my own personal experience.
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think I considered dementia at all,
Speaker 2: even though interesting enough, it kind of is in my
Speaker 2: mum's family and you know, of her sisters have sadly
Speaker 2: passed away from that, but I'd never really given any thought.
Speaker 2: I noticed there were some strange things going on, but
Speaker 2: it just didn't just didn't think. So it's interesting that
Speaker 2: you're saying that, actually people come to you quite late
Speaker 2: in the process maybe or in their journey. Is there
Speaker 2: anything when you think actually for you to say the
Speaker 2: things that we should be and if people could be
Speaker 2: looking out for to sort of say, okay, that's unusual
Speaker 2: or different.
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of things should people be looking
Speaker 1: out for?
Speaker 4: Would you say I think that obviously as you get older,
Speaker 4: well you all will have a bit of memory loss.
Speaker 4: Well I hope that's okase anyway, So that's quite normal
Speaker 4: to get upstairs and forget what you've gone for and
Speaker 4: you know, put the kettle on, but forget to make
Speaker 4: the tea.
Speaker 3: That's all sort of getting older in general.
Speaker 4: But I think when you're in a situation where things
Speaker 4: might be getting to the point where they might be
Speaker 4: cooking and forget they've got a pot on the stove,
Speaker 4: or they might go out and not remember, get a
Speaker 4: little bit lost and you panic because they can't find
Speaker 4: their way home, that's when you need to start thinking, well,
Speaker 4: this isn't just a little bit of forgetfulness.
Speaker 3: This is becoming more regular.
Speaker 4: Also, even though they might forget things, they might start
Speaker 4: forgetting like people's names, who people are, or what it
Speaker 4: might have happened when you're talking about a situation, but
Speaker 4: probably remember what might have happened ten years ago or something.
Speaker 4: I think that's more of the science. Also, when they
Speaker 4: can sometimes present as getting agitated because they're not fully
Speaker 4: understanding what might be going on or said so overwhelming feeling.
Speaker 4: When a lot if they go to a party, they
Speaker 4: wouldn't be able to handle everything going on, because we
Speaker 4: do find here that Christmas. When we come back after Christmas,
Speaker 4: a lot of the clients are totally overwhelmed because they've
Speaker 4: been they've seen a lot of people, they've been to
Speaker 4: different places than they would normal normally.
Speaker 3: See that happened actually at Easter.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Father's Day, Mother's Day, because they've got everyone
Speaker 4: coming around perhaps together, and that's a big sign.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, I guess it's you know, that's the way
Speaker 2: we do shows like this because things like that, it's
Speaker 2: really important to talk about stuff because I guess in
Speaker 2: some ways, I mean, I mean, for my mom, I
Speaker 2: think there were things going on, and I think my
Speaker 2: mom was probably aware of what was going on. She
Speaker 2: has WISIDS. He worked as a nurse, so she's got
Speaker 2: a medical background. But I don't think she really said.
Speaker 2: She didn't say anything to us, and I think other
Speaker 2: people may have noticed. But because I wasn't living with
Speaker 2: her and I don't see her all the time, you.
Speaker 1: Notice little things.
Speaker 2: We don't put two in two together, and I don't
Speaker 2: think she said, but I think she was probably aware.
Speaker 2: And actually, when I reflect back, actually the signs were
Speaker 2: completely there, and I think, you know, how could I've
Speaker 2: missed them?
Speaker 1: But I had no awareness.
Speaker 2: So again it's really important to kind of, I suppose,
Speaker 2: educate yourself, which is why we're doing shows like this
Speaker 2: to kind of raise awareness and then to say, actually
Speaker 2: notice these things, you know, and kind of be aware
Speaker 2: of what's going on and actually just go and get
Speaker 2: things checked out. I think generally, sometimes people in their health,
Speaker 2: you recognize things are happening, and I get it, people
Speaker 2: are scared of going to the doctor and what have you.
Speaker 2: But as you said, early diagnosis is really important because
Speaker 2: things can be done, support can be put in place,
Speaker 2: because I know, I know sometimes I feel I might
Speaker 2: I've missed the boat on some things just to kind
Speaker 2: of get things done. But you know, here we are,
Speaker 2: and you know, days like today is important to say, actually,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a very sad disease that actually we're
Speaker 2: raising awareness to sort of say, actually, more work can
Speaker 2: be done, more.
Speaker 1: Support can be given, et cetera.
Speaker 2: So I mean, obviously you're supporting the service users that
Speaker 2: come here, how does the center also help the families?
Speaker 2: And I'm asking that question, and I'm going to speak
Speaker 2: for myself. I know how it helps the family. I've
Speaker 2: got an idea how it might help the families, But
Speaker 2: how do you think it helps? You know, the families
Speaker 2: manage and the challenges of caring with somebody with dementia.
Speaker 1: You know why is this essential?
Speaker 4: When we have new clients, we always talk to the
Speaker 4: families and.
Speaker 3: Explain that we are.
Speaker 4: Here for them at any point, for their for the partners,
Speaker 4: and for the family members, daughters, whoever cares, because we
Speaker 4: see a different side usually to the clients than they
Speaker 4: would at home. They have the dementia diagnosis twenty four
Speaker 4: to seven. We have it for a few hours a day.
Speaker 4: The break that they have is the only time that
Speaker 4: they can do shopping without worrying or going to appointments
Speaker 4: for their own health, because a lot of the time
Speaker 4: they are actually worn out and they can't even go
Speaker 4: to the doctors or appointments, So that obviously helps. We
Speaker 4: often have people in that get quite emotional and we
Speaker 4: get them in the office, give them a cuppa and
Speaker 4: say yeah, and you just say, come on, spill it
Speaker 4: all out, get it all out, get it all out,
Speaker 4: and let's talk through. And I had a lady a
Speaker 4: few weeks ago, and it was heartbreaking. She was so
Speaker 4: upset and when she and I gave her lots of
Speaker 4: different numbers and told her about respite because people think.
Speaker 3: Respite is getting rid of your loved ones, it is not.
Speaker 4: It is a chance for the care family member to
Speaker 4: have a break and it's essential for their well being
Speaker 4: because no.
Speaker 3: One thinks about the care and that is terrible.
Speaker 4: It's just terrible because you can't you burn out because
Speaker 4: you've got it constantly. So we explain that and often
Speaker 4: people will say, oh, no, I couldn't possibly do that,
Speaker 4: but they really do have to.
Speaker 3: They need that break, and.
Speaker 4: When they finally do do it, I do feel like
Speaker 4: they feel more refreshed and able to manage for the
Speaker 4: next couple of months.
Speaker 3: To get through because it a hard disease to live.
Speaker 4: With, for the care as family members as well as
Speaker 4: the actual person who's got it. And I was very
Speaker 4: happy because the lady that I spoke to a few
Speaker 4: weeks ago, she was so upset, and I spoke with
Speaker 4: her for about fifty minutes actually, and when she went
Speaker 4: home she was armed with everything that I'd given her,
Speaker 4: all the numbers, help lines, social services numbers and everything
Speaker 4: to ring and she came back and she had a
Speaker 4: big smile on her face and she said, thank you
Speaker 4: so much. I'm so happy. And I was just so
Speaker 4: happy because she'd come in thinking that her life was
Speaker 4: just in tatters and she turns it all round in
Speaker 4: a few phone calls and that just makes the difference.
Speaker 3: And we are here for everyone.
Speaker 4: I had a lady ring up on the land just
Speaker 4: saying would I be able to come. This lady had cancer,
Speaker 4: but she wanted her husband to have some respite. When
Speaker 4: I explained to her that it was obviously a dementia,
Speaker 4: she was very young, unfortunately very young, she didn't feel
Speaker 4: like it was for her, and I don't think it
Speaker 4: was for her either. But I spoke with her for
Speaker 4: a long time and afterwards I said to her, ring,
Speaker 4: if you want to chat, just ring May, and she goes, well,
Speaker 4: but I'm not going to come. I said, I don't care.
Speaker 4: You're in the community. If you want to chat, ring May,
Speaker 4: I'll have time for you, because it doesn't matter who's
Speaker 4: got what. We're all together, aren't we We're a community,
Speaker 4: so we should help each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's really that's really, that is really key,
Speaker 2: because I guess you know, sometimes you know somebody has
Speaker 2: gets a diagnosis, and whether that's a partner or for
Speaker 2: me it was my mum, it's a very it's quite
Speaker 2: a lonely road because you're suddenly faced with you know,
Speaker 2: you see it from a sort of the medical perspective,
Speaker 2: and then and once they kind of give you all
Speaker 2: of these bits and pieces, you're kind of on your own.
Speaker 2: I know I've been quite fortunate to be able to
Speaker 2: access different support things. I know I was supported by
Speaker 2: and over mind. I think that's how I heard about
Speaker 2: this center. But for many people, I know that doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily happen. And I think you have to be quite
Speaker 2: very proactive to really go out there and find things.
Speaker 1: And I know I did a lot of research and
Speaker 1: what have you.
Speaker 2: But actually having someone to speak to who's got the
Speaker 2: experience the knowledge makes everything feel a little bit more manageable.
Speaker 2: So it's fantastic that you know your team is able
Speaker 2: to you know, able and willing to do that as well,
Speaker 2: because you know, sometimes you can call up people or
Speaker 2: call something and it feels very impersonal, it's very factual.
Speaker 3: We get cuddles and.
Speaker 1: They really do, they really do. I know there's been
Speaker 1: a few times i've come.
Speaker 2: Here, and I've clearly and it shows on my face
Speaker 2: that I've had a really stressful morning with my mum,
Speaker 2: and it's just like it's okay, Angela, leave her go home.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, even the first time I came here just
Speaker 2: as a kind of taste to day with my mum.
Speaker 2: You know, I remember the previous man she was here,
Speaker 2: she was just like, okay, she's here, now, I should
Speaker 2: be fine, go and do what you need to do.
Speaker 2: And again, you know that in itself is daunting because
Speaker 2: you're putting your loved one in the care of somewhere else,
Speaker 2: you don't know people, and you know, you know, coming
Speaker 2: from a faith background, you know, I pray. I pray
Speaker 2: for services. I pray for people that are going to
Speaker 2: be helpful for me and my mum. And I know
Speaker 2: I've been blessed by that, you know. So again, it's
Speaker 2: really reassuring to know that, yes, there are services who
Speaker 2: it feels like her home from home and lots of respects.
Speaker 1: So that's really fantastic to hear.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting you're saying, because you're saying about it
Speaker 2: being you know, part of the community. How important is
Speaker 2: it for community based support services to be there, and
Speaker 2: you've sort of said that there aren't many around, and
Speaker 2: I know I'm fortunate to be living in an area
Speaker 2: where there are some services, But why is that so important?
Speaker 4: I think the thing is, it's just we're a day center,
Speaker 4: so people will need other assistance, whether that be you know,
Speaker 4: like help at home or take a break when people
Speaker 4: come to your house and sit with them so you
Speaker 4: can do whatever you want. And I in this area,
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure there's a lot of
Speaker 4: that around, which is.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, we do get support from the community in
Speaker 4: other ways, like help with the center.
Speaker 3: We're very fortunate about that.
Speaker 4: We get companies that give up the staff for a
Speaker 4: day okay, yeah, to come and help us, like do
Speaker 4: it with the gardening or any mat which is lovely.
Speaker 4: But when it comes to the care inside, I just
Speaker 4: feel like there could be more.
Speaker 3: We are thinking of doing a evening when we can.
Speaker 4: Talk about dementia and make a bit of food and
Speaker 4: sit around informally have a little chat, and I think
Speaker 4: that will help quite a lot of people in the area.
Speaker 3: Also, we're thinking of having.
Speaker 4: A coffee morning where people can come in and just
Speaker 4: have a chat with staff just to see.
Speaker 3: How they are, how they're getting on, if.
Speaker 4: They need any assistance with anything, because it is alone,
Speaker 4: As you said, it is lonely, and if you've never
Speaker 4: dealt with anything like this before, you don't know where
Speaker 4: to start. It's quite a scary thing because you've already
Speaker 4: got somebody that you love that's got this horrible disease,
Speaker 4: and then on you're trying to find.
Speaker 3: The best support you can. Yeah, but it's really difficult.
Speaker 2: And often you feel like you're quite on your own
Speaker 2: as well. And I know I've joined, you know, I've
Speaker 2: managed to access support groups, you know, if there's a
Speaker 2: good one at my workplace, and a few others as well.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't always make them due to the
Speaker 2: times and stuff, but it's there's quite it's quite comforting
Speaker 2: to kind of sit around with people in some ways
Speaker 2: and share experiences. I just know that you're not alone
Speaker 2: and other people are having a really similar experience because
Speaker 2: as whilst everybody is very unique, there are so many similarities,
Speaker 2: which is just I mean that blows my mind a
Speaker 2: lot of the time because I think, wow, you know,
Speaker 2: mum has an obsession with folding tissues for instance, and
Speaker 2: tissues are a thing, you know, and just all these
Speaker 2: things and you realize you speak to people, but you.
Speaker 3: Also share twenty people that do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it used to be oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I think I've come to accept it is just part
Speaker 1: of what it now.
Speaker 2: But you know, to recognize that, yeah, you're not the
Speaker 2: only person that's going through this, and then equally to
Speaker 2: be able to share the frustrations and the challenges and
Speaker 2: that can be you know, it's heartbreaking because you can
Speaker 2: completely relate, you know, in that level. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: I guess having something quite local to you as well,
Speaker 2: but you're not having to travel too far, you know,
Speaker 2: and it becomes familiar.
Speaker 1: It's local. What kind of things?
Speaker 2: So, I mean, have you seen the need for and
Speaker 2: I'm asking this question, I think I know the answer
Speaker 2: to this, the demand for support. Have you seen that increase?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think dementia is not a new thing?
Speaker 2: But it seems to be. It appears to be on
Speaker 2: the rise, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's because it's an aging
Speaker 1: nation or.
Speaker 4: I think the thing is that I would say twenty
Speaker 4: thirty years ago it would be nan sitting in the corner.
Speaker 4: She's funny sometimes, you know, she's a bit And it
Speaker 4: was never diagnosed.
Speaker 3: Nothing was ever diagnosed, and.
Speaker 4: Now we've got a dementia sort of took off, didn't it,
Speaker 4: And we've got more information. They've done a lot of
Speaker 4: research into dementia, so there's a lot more sort of
Speaker 4: out there. And also with people working full time or
Speaker 4: part time. You know, when I was a kid, all
Speaker 4: families were together and you now you would look after
Speaker 4: you they went to work and this sort of thing.
Speaker 4: There was always a family member to help out. But
Speaker 4: now mainly we're all working longer, aren't they, because of
Speaker 4: you know, society in general. We're all all government, I'd
Speaker 4: like to say, so we're all working because we're living longer.
Speaker 3: So there's not that help at home. So you need
Speaker 3: the help from the community.
Speaker 1: So what kind of help do you think is then needed?
Speaker 1: Is said to you?
Speaker 2: What need to help from the communities, but from local
Speaker 2: communities or the governments or local councils, you know that
Speaker 2: can kind of improve the dementia care and also raising awareness.
Speaker 2: What do you think they could be doing more of?
Speaker 4: Well, I do think that we work with Hampshire County
Speaker 4: Council obviously, and they are really fantastic.
Speaker 3: We've got a good rapport with them.
Speaker 4: We help a lot of people and we are able
Speaker 4: to bring them anytime if we've got something that we
Speaker 4: need that might crop up, that we might need to
Speaker 4: get answers for, whether it be financial, all the different
Speaker 4: things that might pop up, and so that from that
Speaker 4: point of view we're blessed with that. I think there
Speaker 4: would it would be lovely. We have got in the
Speaker 4: area little groups around that are they do the singing
Speaker 4: dementia that is fantastic and a lot of our clients
Speaker 4: doill go there and singing seems to be a big
Speaker 4: thing in dementia, which is lovely. When you hear someone
Speaker 4: sing a whole song and they remember every single word,
Speaker 4: that is lovely. But there isn't little drop in places
Speaker 4: that would be quite nice perhaps for the actual carers
Speaker 4: to go to and perhaps with a little bit of
Speaker 4: assistance for the person with dementia so they can actually
Speaker 4: have a chat without worrying about the client.
Speaker 2: So definitely more kind of like you said, different centers,
Speaker 2: different activities than.
Speaker 1: What have you.
Speaker 4: But of course that's when the government comes into it,
Speaker 4: and that costs money, and I.
Speaker 3: Feel that the government puts the elderly last on the list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: I mean that's only my personal yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: mean care is not cheap just across the board. So
Speaker 2: you know, definitely, Actually, the funding aspect of it is
Speaker 2: definitely going to be a challenge because, as you said,
Speaker 2: it seems to be I mean, everything seems to be
Speaker 2: last on the list, but care in general, or support
Speaker 2: in general, seems to kind of not It appears not
Speaker 2: to be as important as it should be, you know,
Speaker 2: especially when you realize that people are getting older, and
Speaker 2: I think statistics will show that it's like wanting three
Speaker 2: people wanting three people may develop some sort of dementia.
Speaker 1: Or you know, living it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, and if this support isn't there,
Speaker 2: you kind of just because you kind of wonder what
Speaker 2: the future will be like if you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of support functions appear to be shutting
Speaker 2: down as well. You know, if you can't get the money,
Speaker 2: you can't afford to keep it running.
Speaker 1: So then what will happen? I have to wonder?
Speaker 2: So, I mean, how can people get involved with you know,
Speaker 2: involved with supporting dementia charities?
Speaker 1: Or organizations.
Speaker 4: Well, we are always happy to have a lovely person
Speaker 4: come in as a volunteer that is lovely to be
Speaker 4: able to give more one to ones with people. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if someone's got a particular hobby that they want to
Speaker 4: continue on a one to one basis, that we would
Speaker 4: love that. So we are looking for volunteers at the
Speaker 4: moment actually, but they are hard to come by because
Speaker 4: I don't know if people worry about coming in, but
Speaker 4: it would literally just be come in, have a nice
Speaker 4: day with the clients, do whatever they would like to do,
Speaker 4: and then they get friendly with them. The clients will
Speaker 4: be into trust them and yeah, it's it's difficult.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 4: You can't really advertise, but we have got in age
Speaker 4: in sent Hampshire, we have got staff that do deal
Speaker 4: with that and at the moment actually we are dealing
Speaker 4: with Fleet Volunteer Services and we're hoping to go forward
Speaker 4: with that because that is invaluable help.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we have staff.
Speaker 4: For the as many people as we have in but
Speaker 4: to have extra people that can just add that little
Speaker 4: bit of sort of support for certain people that aren't
Speaker 4: perhaps interested in you know, the people that like to
Speaker 4: watch I might want to do something different, so that yeah,
Speaker 4: that is invaluable.
Speaker 2: Mm So sort of summing up and I appreciate because
Speaker 2: you've taken time out today, so maybe let you get
Speaker 2: back to joining the doing the crew out there. What
Speaker 2: kind of what would you say to somebody who is
Speaker 2: either living with dementia themselves, possibly we may have somebody
Speaker 2: listening there, or you know someone who's caring for somebody.
Speaker 2: What would your kind of advice be to them with
Speaker 2: terms of support or engaging or getting involved in something,
Speaker 2: Because again I guess it depends on where people are
Speaker 2: on their journeys that may determine possibly what's available to them,
Speaker 2: what they could access, etc. But what would you kind
Speaker 2: of say to them to try and do if they can.
Speaker 4: I think if you think you've got the beginnings of dementia,
Speaker 4: definitely perhaps if possible, just write down a few little
Speaker 4: things that you might think is the beginning of it
Speaker 4: and get help. Go to the GP. If you're living
Speaker 4: with someone in the same instant, do the same. Get
Speaker 4: the help from the GP because they refer you to
Speaker 4: a specialist that will do tests and then obviously medication.
Speaker 3: Can prolong the dementia improve it. But I would also.
Speaker 4: If someone's got dementia, don't take away their skills because
Speaker 4: I do hear. No, you can't do that, because you've
Speaker 4: got demensions that you can't do that. So there's always
Speaker 4: something that everyone can do, because taking away skills is,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, a slippery slope. So all right, they
Speaker 4: might not be able to cook, but they can wash up,
Speaker 4: they can dry up, they can hoover. We've got a
Speaker 4: lady here that insists of sweeping because that's what she
Speaker 4: used to do, so she wants to do it. We've
Speaker 4: got people, as you say about the tissue situation, where
Speaker 4: you have quite a lot of ladies that like to
Speaker 4: fold and one man that likes to fold the serviettes. Right, Yes,
Speaker 4: and this has become a morning job. Some people like
Speaker 4: to lay the tables. They're not unable to do anything,
Speaker 4: but a lot of people think, oh, they can't do
Speaker 4: anything now, Yes, it's just the more dangerous things they
Speaker 4: can't do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's actually kind of an interesting balance to
Speaker 2: get because I think, I know I've probably been guilty
Speaker 2: of I think I've been guilty of kind of maybe
Speaker 2: jumping in to do things that maybe my mom's not
Speaker 2: able to do as well.
Speaker 1: As she could do it, because sometimes it's not in
Speaker 1: the case if she can't do it.
Speaker 2: But sometimes you don't really think, oh, something should be
Speaker 2: done in a certain way. And I think getting that
Speaker 2: balance where you can just accept things as they are
Speaker 2: or how they're doing it, you might have to kind
Speaker 2: of go back in and sort something else that afterwards,
Speaker 2: but allowing them to still retain a level of independence
Speaker 2: and purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the word purpose, because everybody needs purpose.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very true because I think actually that's so true.
Speaker 1: I mean they're already.
Speaker 3: Human beings and we're all worthy of a life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I feel like, give them a job. Yeah, if
Speaker 3: they want to do it, they can.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's really that's really key, and I think
Speaker 2: that's probably that's one thing I've probably really learned to
Speaker 2: sort of say, I've got to be able to let
Speaker 2: some of that go and just be okay with it's
Speaker 2: not done perfectly.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 2: So but you know, sometimes you realize, you know, and
Speaker 2: for me, I know, it feels like roles are reversed.
Speaker 2: So the things that maybe my mum used to do
Speaker 2: and would tell me about, I'm not doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: But actually it's about having the happy medium because she
Speaker 2: doesn't want to lose.
Speaker 1: A lot of that.
Speaker 2: And I know my mom kind of fight some of that.
Speaker 2: She wants to she wants to be independent. Of course
Speaker 2: she does. Everybody does. She's an adult, you know, but
Speaker 2: your mum does work here. You know that, don't you.
Speaker 1: She's good, I know, and.
Speaker 3: She's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If someone is upset, her nursing experience jumps out and
Speaker 4: she's so loving talking to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we just sort of watch something. Oh that
Speaker 3: is so sweet. Yeah, she's so caring. Yeah, she is
Speaker 3: absolutely lovely.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And as she say, you know, it's interesting, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's good for me to hear that because sometimes,
Speaker 2: as you say, you see a different side to the
Speaker 2: person that maybe family members or careers or care givers
Speaker 2: are not well.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily see all of that.
Speaker 2: So it's good to kind of hear because I mean,
Speaker 2: sometimes there are days when I think, you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm public enemy number one, and you know,
Speaker 2: there's obviously something else going on which may cause and
Speaker 2: there's obviously symptoms that present itself, but to kind of
Speaker 2: know that actually somebody is still seeing the person that
Speaker 2: I want to knew. Yeah, and those aspects of what
Speaker 2: somebody was like. So that's really encouraging to hear that
Speaker 2: it's not completely gone because you kind of you know,
Speaker 2: you know, at some point things will really change and yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe very different.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, this has been a fantastic conversation.
Speaker 2: I think you really appreciate your time today, and I
Speaker 2: really appreciate and I know I say this, I really
Speaker 2: appreciate the support that you know, the center has given
Speaker 2: my mom. I think the team is amazing, and not
Speaker 2: only for my mom, for me as well, because you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, I've come here a few times where
Speaker 2: clearly stressed, clearly had a really bad morning, but no,
Speaker 2: I can know that I can safely drop off Mum and.
Speaker 1: You know, turn around the day.
Speaker 2: And I think there's probably only been one instance where
Speaker 2: Mom she didn't feel like coming here today, which is
Speaker 2: very unusual because she might protest and she'll get here
Speaker 2: and she'll be fine, but you know, some days you
Speaker 2: don't want to do something. So so yeah, so if
Speaker 2: you've got any other final things to kind of share
Speaker 2: with our listeners, I would just like.
Speaker 6: To say it's all doable with respite and space to
Speaker 6: be yourself as a carer as well as being a
Speaker 6: care for the person in dementia. You need the break
Speaker 6: to continue to look after your loved ones and we
Speaker 6: and I'm sure all other centers around the country are
Speaker 6: here to help.
Speaker 3: So we are ready with any questions you might have.
Speaker 2: Cool Cool and what we'll do. We'll share some details
Speaker 2: of the center. Have you been getting contact and then
Speaker 2: she said you were looking for volunteers, so if you
Speaker 2: happen to be in the Hampshire area and it'll be
Speaker 2: interested in giving your time, we'll share details of that. So, Karen,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. It's been wonderful
Speaker 2: talking to you like it is every time I pop in,
Speaker 2: and yes, thank.
Speaker 1: You for your time.
Speaker 2: And obviously we're you know, raising awareness for the world
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's Day. Thank you so much for the work that
Speaker 2: you do and for leading your team so fantastically to
Speaker 2: support your service users.
Speaker 1: So thank you again. Thank you. Pably Cool.
Speaker 2: Just going to segue around a little bit and sometimes
Speaker 2: you said before, is there anything that we can do
Speaker 2: to kind of support our own brain health as it were,
Speaker 2: may not be able to necessarily prevent dementias you know,
Speaker 2: if it could be genetic, it could be as you
Speaker 2: mentioned about live style trans But there anything that we
Speaker 2: can do to kind of you know, we're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the importance of looking after ourselves self care,
Speaker 2: wellness and mental health. Are there any kind of other
Speaker 2: tips that you think actually can with you know, boosing,
Speaker 2: but maybe kind of thinking about our cognitive function and
Speaker 2: actually what we can do better. And I guess, you know,
Speaker 2: as usual, we're kind of coming to the end of
Speaker 2: USh can be, coming to the end of our time
Speaker 2: and kind of thinking about what we can do. And
Speaker 2: as you know, as often, you probably can do part
Speaker 2: two and part three of our show on this and
Speaker 2: it will definitely be a topic that we will you
Speaker 2: return to. But is there anything that you know we
Speaker 2: can do that you can sort of advise our listeners
Speaker 2: to sort of say, actually and pnemonia. You mentioned about
Speaker 2: knowing your numbers, and I think that's a message that
Speaker 2: you know, knowing your body, knowing yourself is for any
Speaker 2: kind of illness or anything you know that comes up
Speaker 2: or conditions that you're trying to avoid. There's anything specifically
Speaker 2: we could do to boost that.
Speaker 7: You mentioned sleep as well. Sleep I think it's keep parent.
Speaker 7: There's so many things than selling the brain an exercise.
Speaker 7: I'm glad and we'll be one too. But again it's
Speaker 7: those habits that you know you must do one just
Speaker 7: some sisters, as you should be.
Speaker 5: I think love style is a big, big thing. And
Speaker 5: I think that by time symptoms start showing that illness
Speaker 5: has been there at least twenty years prior. It's not
Speaker 5: a going to the shops and buying all the multi
Speaker 5: vitamins on the counter here and now. It's starting from
Speaker 5: the beginning. It's all about balance. And you know, some
Speaker 5: people love their work and they work and work and
Speaker 5: work and work and work. But it will catch up
Speaker 5: with you at some point. Do any exercise and then
Speaker 5: suddenly when you're fifteen you decide to join the gym,
Speaker 5: which is.
Speaker 7: Great, asking you to repeat that work point again.
Speaker 5: To be honest, we need to work, we need to live,
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the balance, the ballance.
Speaker 5: You know, everybody's circumstance is different, but you know, whatever
Speaker 5: circumstance you find yourself in, always think balance, balance, balance.
Speaker 5: There's twenty four hours in the day, doesn't mean you
Speaker 5: have to work for twenty four hours. Speak some of
Speaker 5: it is for unwinding and just relaxing. Some of it
Speaker 5: for socializing, but what we tend to do is work, work, work, work, work, work, work,
Speaker 5: and then party, party, party, party, party, where you know,
Speaker 5: we're like yo yo is going back and forth in
Speaker 5: doing different things where we're supposed to do a little
Speaker 5: bit of everything every day. But another very very big
Speaker 5: thing which is very prevalent in the UK's loneliness, extremely lonely.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if technology has made it
Speaker 5: better or worse, because you know, there's less of the
Speaker 5: physical interaction. But we're social beings. We thrive on community,
Speaker 5: We thrive on meeting people. A hug keeps the doctor away.
Speaker 5: We don't even talk to each other anymore.
Speaker 1: We're on our gadgets.
Speaker 5: When we come down to the nitty gritty. You know,
Speaker 5: you might have so many ticks and likes, but how
Speaker 5: many people are you actually connecting with?
Speaker 1: Yeah, level one to one. I think there's another show
Speaker 1: right there.
Speaker 2: I think The Boy definitely a topic to because and
Speaker 2: I know that was a big thing that came out
Speaker 2: from COVID, you know, the fact where we were locked down,
Speaker 2: the reality of suddenly you're actually on your own, you know,
Speaker 2: and you can't go out.
Speaker 5: Or you can't go to the pub, or you can't
Speaker 5: or conversations are not happening, or they're all very superficial
Speaker 5: relationships and neurons are dying one cell at a time.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just keeps you going.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Is there some myth or is it truth in terms
Speaker 7: of keeping your brain active with puzzles and other things
Speaker 7: like that? Put that help or are we clasping at
Speaker 7: straws on that front?
Speaker 2: Then you use it or you lose it?
Speaker 1: Well said, so.
Speaker 5: We might have won key genes, but it's our environment
Speaker 5: that pulls the trigger.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, So it's kind of never too late then
Speaker 2: in that respect. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Cool.
Speaker 2: And Michelle, do you have anything else to add on
Speaker 2: that as well?
Speaker 8: No, I'm just seeing it thinking. You know, really, no
Speaker 8: man is an island. You just can't do it alone,
Speaker 8: and you actually need to seek help. We actually rise
Speaker 8: by lifting others, and I think we need to reach
Speaker 8: out and support each other as much as we can,
Speaker 8: particularly in our community. And you know, for anyone listening
Speaker 8: on on this show, if you know anyone any black
Speaker 8: African Caribbean careers that would like to join my dementia
Speaker 8: support group, by all means i'd happily welcome you to
Speaker 8: the group, and if you feel that you'd like someone
Speaker 8: to want counseling with me, I'm happy to organize that
Speaker 8: and we can do that online. Most of my work
Speaker 8: is online, so if it's okay with you, I'd like
Speaker 8: to leave you my contact number please, and then anyone
Speaker 8: listening feel free to get in touch with me. So
Speaker 8: my number is zero seven nine six five zero seven
Speaker 8: zero zero three. So that's zero seven nine three six
Speaker 8: five zero seven zero zero three.
Speaker 2: Thank you, and reminds you the name of the group again.
Speaker 8: It's NYA, a coma Dementia support group.
Speaker 2: And I love the meaning behind that as well, and
Speaker 2: you're thinking behind that and ammonia. Is there any where
Speaker 2: we can find out a bit more about the work
Speaker 2: that you do as well.
Speaker 1: On hs.
Speaker 5: I work in Northwest London, But like Michelle, I'm really
Speaker 5: keen on supporting as many people as possible and I
Speaker 5: always say what we're all doing for our mums and
Speaker 5: for those caring for spouses. In a few years time
Speaker 5: it might be us in that position. So this is
Speaker 5: not something to shy away from or run away from,
Speaker 5: because you know what you don't deal with you today
Speaker 5: is waiting tomorrow. And the more voices then, the more
Speaker 5: we get heard on policy levels, you know, Westminster, and
Speaker 5: until we get to that point where my dream or
Speaker 5: my ideal would be to bring dementia screening as part
Speaker 5: of the forty plus screening. When your forty plus screen
Speaker 5: like you have breast screening, like you have bowel screening.
Speaker 2: I think we will.
Speaker 5: Get there eventually, but I think that we need to
Speaker 5: be getting there like yesterday.
Speaker 7: Well, it's the theme for the for the awareness days.
Speaker 1: We need to act.
Speaker 7: Now is the time, even if there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 5: If you hear it when you're forty, when you're you
Speaker 5: start thinking I've heard that somewhere, But when you're hearing
Speaker 5: it for the first time in these or seventies, then
Speaker 5: we've kind of missed the boat at that stage.
Speaker 7: Fourteen and at these tender ages where we think we're invincible,
Speaker 7: it's time to put those practices and those lifestyle changes
Speaker 7: in place so that we're not, you know, far along
Speaker 7: than we need to be at sixteen seventy. I say
Speaker 7: that to all my twenty old friends and so forth.
Speaker 7: You know what, Yeah, there's the story about we live
Speaker 7: for our wealth now and then we our health suffers
Speaker 7: later and you know, our social life or whatever else
Speaker 7: it might be that seems priority at that age. But yeah,
Speaker 7: it's these years that we need to start putting in
Speaker 7: place those habits that will take us through.
Speaker 5: And we need to act. Now. That's the message for
Speaker 5: this year's World Alzheimer's Day. And think of alzheimer as
Speaker 5: all the dementias. So it's Alzheimer's disease and related dementias.
Speaker 5: So there's lots of different kinds of dementia. So don't
Speaker 5: think of it as eighty year old. Think of it
Speaker 5: as anybody you know all the time. This was the
Speaker 5: same way we were scared about cancer. Now everybody says,
Speaker 5: oh I've got this cat, Oh I'm in remission, you know,
Speaker 5: which is great, and we'd like dementia to be that
Speaker 5: way someday soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah. And just to kind of add on
Speaker 2: to in terms of you know, there's lots of there
Speaker 2: are lots of resources out there Dementia UK. You can
Speaker 2: go to their website DEMENTIAUK dot org. There's Alzheimer's Society,
Speaker 2: so that's Alzheimer's Org dot UK, and there's also the
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's Research as well, and a lot of huk Age concern.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of information out there, so
Speaker 2: you know we're highlighting that, but you know there's the
Speaker 2: opportunity to educate yourself and find out more information there
Speaker 2: as well. It's been another great conversation and you know,
Speaker 2: as we're kind of going to be wrapping up so
Speaker 2: much more, I'm sure we've gould have talked about, so
Speaker 2: we definitely will love to have you both back on
Speaker 2: the show with us. And yeah, it's been, yeah, really interesting.
Speaker 2: I've definitely as much as the research that I've done,
Speaker 2: definitely have learned something from today's show this because so
Speaker 2: many things that I've just wasn't necessarily aware of thought about,
Speaker 2: and you've let us with some kind of you know,
Speaker 2: great gems there in terms of things to consider going forward.
Speaker 2: So I want to thank you both for coming on
Speaker 2: today and joining us for our show, and I thank
Speaker 2: you for the work that you're doing within this field.
Speaker 2: And you know, like I said, we'll definitely try and
Speaker 2: get you back on again to you know, continue the conversation,
Speaker 2: and you said keep talking about it and definitely, you know,
Speaker 2: keep educating us and khukating you know, each other as well.
Speaker 2: So we're going to finish today. I thank you all
Speaker 2: for joining us on talking points, and again, you know,
Speaker 2: we are back from our break, so we've got some
Speaker 2: great shows lined up, so we're if you again, and
Speaker 2: if you want to join in the conversation, do you
Speaker 2: get in contact with us if you'd like to be
Speaker 2: a guest on our show. We was looking for guests,
Speaker 2: were looking for stories, so do contact us as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to hand over to Pedro to pray
Speaker 2: for us, and then we will close, and I thank
Speaker 2: you all. I hope you enjoy the rest of your
Speaker 2: evening and we'll see you again next week.
Speaker 9: I just want to say real quick, I really do
Speaker 9: hope that we do do another show soon, because I
Speaker 9: just feel like we just crashed the surface a little bit.
Speaker 9: We didn't really get to the meatia potatoes. There's so
Speaker 9: much underlying stuff that we can get to. So I
Speaker 9: see you're smiling because you probably was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 9: I'm using your term meating potatoes, you know, And I
Speaker 9: just think that it's just so much more that we
Speaker 9: could dove into that, can you know, educators, because it's
Speaker 9: definitely I learned a lot today just listening that I
Speaker 9: didn't even know or didn't understand that. I think now
Speaker 9: I have a better understanding of the difference of dementia
Speaker 9: and Alzheimer's and just the different types that there is.
Speaker 9: So definitely I think we definitely need to do soon
Speaker 9: just my opinion agreed.
Speaker 7: Now what it's always good to talk this is this
Speaker 7: is the basis of talking.
Speaker 9: Point that definitely, Yes, today.
Speaker 7: We talk about it, then we raise awareness and people can.
Speaker 9: Act ourselves and for other people too. That's the point.
Speaker 7: And for the longest way, I was really quiet at
Speaker 7: the beginning because I was just taking it all in there.
Speaker 1: Just I thought I.
Speaker 7: Knew something, but I didn't know as much as I
Speaker 7: thought I didnnew, And there's always more to learn, So
Speaker 7: to keep talking.
Speaker 9: Oh, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 7: Before you pray, interject a scripture that I thought that
Speaker 7: might might apply, and it's Second Corinthians twelve nine, and
Speaker 7: it says, and he said to me, my grace is
Speaker 7: sufficient for the My strength is made perfect in weakness.
Speaker 7: Most gladly. Therefore, will I rather glory in my infirmities,
Speaker 7: that the power of Christ may rest on me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's great. Want to end on Simon nice
Speaker 2: into our prayer. Thank you for that, Sonya, thank you.
Speaker 9: Than you let us pray any by his heave any Father,
Speaker 9: we thank you for this. Another talking point did you
Speaker 9: have allowed us to have as we are learning about
Speaker 9: different different things going on in the world and different
Speaker 9: things going on in our bodies. We asked lok Lod
Speaker 9: that you will be of us as we go forward
Speaker 9: this week. Let us have a good week, enjoy the
Speaker 9: rest of our weekend. We also ask Lord that those
Speaker 9: who may be dealing with these situations with Alzheimer's, are dementia,
Speaker 9: maybe a care or maybe helping somebody deal with it,
Speaker 9: that you'll give them the strength and the patience and
Speaker 9: the understanding that they may need to make it through
Speaker 9: this time. As there as we understand it, it's not
Speaker 9: an easy thing to deal with. So we ask Lord
Speaker 9: that you will be with those folks, watch over them,
Speaker 9: protect them, just give them the knowledge that they may need,
Speaker 9: give them the help that they may be seeking. That
Speaker 9: they may be some may be too proud to ask for.
Speaker 9: We ask Lord that you'll find that you will send
Speaker 9: somebody that would well be able to help them, that
Speaker 9: they may not be so stressed or so anxious We
Speaker 9: love you, Lord, We thank you for the rest of
Speaker 9: the life that you give us on a daily basis,
Speaker 9: and we ask that you continue to watch over us
Speaker 9: until you come for this operennial Holy name. Amen.
Speaker 2: And once again, thank you so much Michelle and Pneumonia
Speaker 2: for joining us. And yes, we definitely would love to
Speaker 2: have you back on again to share your insights and
Speaker 2: dementia could be on any other topics that we have
Speaker 2: as well, so you know.
Speaker 7: Nice, nice santic I like that, already putting in the request.
Speaker 9: Yes, o, p cool.
Speaker 7: Thank you very very much the thing you do.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for joining and again thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us on Talking Point and yeah, good night
Speaker 2: from us.
Speaker 1: And we'll see Adventist Radio London. Inspiration for the song