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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, aj Benzi here with Same as a Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's September eleventh, and while I should be talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that awful day twenty three years ago, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you something else today for free on the arm on

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<v Speaker 1>the Blotch. I know it's been a while since I

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<v Speaker 1>gave you guys a free show, but I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>introducing a free show every week from here on in,

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<v Speaker 1>and depending upon the participation and the comments and the

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm might get from you folks. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can all email me at Popebenza at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>All you can go through Facebook if you're a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Facebook Podcast Obsess page. You can get me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram right now I can't pull up Twitter for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, but either way I'm easy to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>So a free show every week, which also goes along

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<v Speaker 1>with the weekly free show Everything is a Bitch and

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<v Speaker 1>the Patreon shows of Politics is a Bitch once a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and Fame is a Bitch every single day for

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<v Speaker 1>seven years in counting. But what I'm gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>these free shows, at least in the first few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and months, I'm gonna focus on some of the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>cases of things, murders, all sorts of stuff that either

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<v Speaker 1>I was a part of while I was a reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>an active daily journalist for the New York Daily News,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe living in Los Angeles or New York at

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<v Speaker 1>the time of these particular circumstances, be it Amy Fisher

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<v Speaker 1>and Joey Buttafuco or the men Andez Brothers, or Tanya Harding,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson, O J. Simpson. The big issue is that

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<v Speaker 1>hit us in the eighties and nineties and two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be in today or this week's free show

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<v Speaker 1>with something I touched on in the Patreon behind the

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<v Speaker 1>paywall about whether or not Kurt Cobain was murdered or

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<v Speaker 1>did in fact, as they say, commit suicide. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>somebody on my side, a great source, a private eye,

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<v Speaker 1>who says otherwise, and I'm gonna go from that. Next week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably do an exclusive on Sean Puffy Combs and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole situation where he's being sued up the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's one hundred million dollar judgment against him

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<v Speaker 1>that a judge just said it's fine. This particular guy

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<v Speaker 1>is in jail and is supposedly allowed to get ten

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars a month from Puffy. Puffy's selling his mansions

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<v Speaker 1>in New York Miami. He just getting rid of all

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<v Speaker 1>his property and god knows where he's gonna go. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why they don't consider him a flight risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I do know why, because he's been cooperating with

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<v Speaker 1>ADS for years. That's the inside story on Sean Puffy Combs,

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<v Speaker 1>except now he's on really thin ice. And some say,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're on today, you might as well tap dance.

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<v Speaker 1>If Puffy decides to tap dance like he used to

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<v Speaker 1>do with those videos, he's gonna plunge into freezing water

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<v Speaker 1>and die. So next week I'll probably do Puffy. Not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention weeks ago, I gave you excerpts from the

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<v Speaker 1>mouth of kim Porter, the mother of Puffy's children, and

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<v Speaker 1>now her book sixty pages. It's only sixty pages because

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<v Speaker 1>it's what kim Porter was writing before she was found

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<v Speaker 1>dead from pneumonia, even though there were no medicines on

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<v Speaker 1>her night table or prescriptions for a cough for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how she died daemonia. And I'll be sure

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<v Speaker 1>are just happened to go into a comment almost die

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<v Speaker 1>and Heavy Deed did die and now Andrearell did die.

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<v Speaker 1>Puffy is surrounded by people who ended up dying before

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<v Speaker 1>their time or got very ill. Either way, That'll be

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<v Speaker 1>probably next week's show because I was the first to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you excerpts of Kim's book, and now that it's

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<v Speaker 1>out on Amazon called Kim's Lost Words, you can read

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<v Speaker 1>all about this stuff I told you about weeks and

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. And maybe the third show will be John

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<v Speaker 1>Beney Ramsey's Killer. I Got It Decide didn't follow that too,

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<v Speaker 1>But let's begin with the Kurt Cobain story. Was Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Colbain murder? Ever since this iconic frontman for Nevana was

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<v Speaker 1>found dead in his home in Seattle in April nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four, thirty years ago, there'll be conspiracy theories all

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<v Speaker 1>around about his short life and tragic death. His death,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know then and now, has been ruled a suicide.

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<v Speaker 1>But a private investigator named Tom Grant took a close

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<v Speaker 1>look at the case while it was unfolding. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>not my source, but another private eye is my source.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tom Grant, who took a close look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>he believed that Kurt Cobain was murdered. Specifically, he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that Cobain's wife, Courtney Love, was involved in a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>that resulted in the murder of the grunge Star. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>while Tom Grant has been the most vocal believer of

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<v Speaker 1>this theory over the years, there are a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>investigative journalists I have a lot of respect for Ian

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<v Speaker 1>Halpern and Max Wallace. Both of them have publicly supported

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<v Speaker 1>this point of view. In fact, Helprint and Wallace even

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<v Speaker 1>published books that make the case that Kurt Cobain was murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>And I begin to tell you this story, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see it my way as well. Most shot, Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Cobain's own grandfather has raised questions about his death, and

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<v Speaker 1>at one point he was even quarterly saying that he

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<v Speaker 1>believed Kurt was murdered and didn't commit suicide. Whenever a

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<v Speaker 1>family member makes those kind of statements, I pricked my

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<v Speaker 1>ears up because family knows. But let's now enter my source.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a private I have known for several years now

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<v Speaker 1>who's brought me some different angles on some sensational deaths

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<v Speaker 1>across the last twenty five years or so, including the

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<v Speaker 1>murders of the Cole Brown and Ronald Goldban and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more information about the John Boney Ramsey case according

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<v Speaker 1>to him as well. But in addition to this Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Cobain was he murdered or would commit suicide story? There's

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<v Speaker 1>also the theory or the story that I can't talk

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<v Speaker 1>too much about, but there is the idea that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a love child fathered by Kurt and she is

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<v Speaker 1>alive today and it is about two well, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>she's been been taken care of. She's in hiding, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, and people are being very delicate about how

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<v Speaker 1>she's perceived and who she talks to and whether they

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<v Speaker 1>even want to go forward with this. But she's made

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<v Speaker 1>some she's made some mentions of the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 1>a love child Kurt Cobain, the woman and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>involved I don't know, but this particular girl says she is.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's hold off on that for a second. What

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<v Speaker 1>you need to know about this story before we go

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<v Speaker 1>forward is Kurt Cobain at the time of his death

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<v Speaker 1>was not happy in his marriage. He told friends he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to divorce Courtney love and he was even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>write her out of his will. People who are close

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<v Speaker 1>to the story. Know that back then he turned down

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<v Speaker 1>The Life palozatur which was a I think a nine

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar deal. He'd written, ah, he'd written to Geffen

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<v Speaker 1>Records about going solo. And that's an interesting factor because

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain loved the Beatles, and what he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>in that letter to Geffen Records kind of mirrors what

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<v Speaker 1>John Lennon was doing years early with the Beatles. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt in my mind, in other people's minds

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<v Speaker 1>who are very closed to Kurt or work close to him,

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<v Speaker 1>that he was accelerating toward breaking up the band. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>asked Dave Grohl's opinion. But he's a fucking liar. He

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<v Speaker 1>just got caught cheating on his wife again. This time

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<v Speaker 1>he fathered a daughter. I was the guy who told

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<v Speaker 1>you several years ago that he really wounded his marriage

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<v Speaker 1>by banging or having an affair with his Wife's a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend, destroying that marriage and really putting a big

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<v Speaker 1>damper on his Look at pictures, his daughters can't stand him,

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<v Speaker 1>No one smiles. This particular person doesn't believe that his

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<v Speaker 1>heroin use, Kurt Kirbran's heroin use was the cause of

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<v Speaker 1>his death. My source doesn't believe that. He doesn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt was as much of an attic as he's been painted,

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<v Speaker 1>because he played too wonderfully while they performed live for

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<v Speaker 1>him to be that blasted out of his mind on heroin. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>was he surrounded by heroin. Of course, Courtney Love probably

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest influence. But my source doesn't believe Kurt was

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<v Speaker 1>that into it. He feels that heroin and the overdose

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<v Speaker 1>was blown out of proportion to support their suicide claim,

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<v Speaker 1>and the circle around him didn't have his best interest

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. In fact, his bandmates wanted Kurt to get clean.

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<v Speaker 1>They were pissed off, he was tired. Courtney Love and

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<v Speaker 1>others had motives in mind, and not so much to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he got clean. Let's not forget that very important,

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<v Speaker 1>but they raised enough of a stink that he did

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<v Speaker 1>head to Los Angeles to go to rehab, and he

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<v Speaker 1>knew his bandmates felt things were going downhill by turning

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<v Speaker 1>down the European Tour and Lollapalooza. They were concerned. Intervention

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<v Speaker 1>interventions occurred. In one of those interventions, he punched his

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<v Speaker 1>friend in the limousine and route to the airport wanted

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<v Speaker 1>no part of an intervention, but he still agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Los Angeles to get clean and I believe Exodus,

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<v Speaker 1>but he only spent one day in that rehab. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he bolted and hopped the plane back to Seattle on

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<v Speaker 1>April first, or the early morning. Every per second, some

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<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, no, I've seen an autograph he signed

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<v Speaker 1>April fourth. He was dead as a doorknob by April fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>There are people who have come forward with phony autographs.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain was not alive past April fourth. That's a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>So he spends one day in rehab, bolts, hoops a

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<v Speaker 1>plane back to Seattle. The legend goes on that plane,

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<v Speaker 1>he sat next to Duff mccagan from Guns n' Roses

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<v Speaker 1>and they started talking to Kurt told him he just

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<v Speaker 1>left Exodus, and Duff mccagan is on record saying they

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<v Speaker 1>both drank a lot on the plane, which is weird

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<v Speaker 1>because Kurt really wasn't a big drinker. Heroin was his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't his only thing, but he preferred that over drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did tell Duff he was down, not feeling well,

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<v Speaker 1>and at baggage claim Kurt Cobain went outside to grab

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<v Speaker 1>a smoke with this guy named Eddie who was going

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<v Speaker 1>to drive Duff back to his house, but Eddie lost that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt came back inside the airport and said, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt's gone. I can't find him anywhere. Because of his mood,

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Love decided to report him missing. Now. She was

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<v Speaker 1>in La at the Peninsula Hotel. She was there to

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<v Speaker 1>support him, but when she doesn't hear from him, she

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<v Speaker 1>to find him. That's Tom Grant. Tom Grant believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a former La County sheriff Courtey was concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt's wellbeing. But this is where the Pandora's box begins

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<v Speaker 1>to open. On April third, Courtney Love calls Tom Grant

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<v Speaker 1>and says somebody is using her husband's credit cards, and

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<v Speaker 1>this begins Tom Grant's journey. He ended up playing a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent role in at death that shook the world of

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll, and let's face it, to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>has generated a cult following that still exists. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago. God that flew as we remember. He

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<v Speaker 1>was found dead in his home on April eighth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four. Seattle police quickly ruled his death a suicide,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tom Grant wasn't wasn't short. He blamed negligence on

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the cops. Grant never said Courtney Love

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<v Speaker 1>pull a trigger, but he always held the belief that

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<v Speaker 1>there were other people involved in this conspiracy that resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in Kurt's death. Now, police developed four rolls of film

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<v Speaker 1>from the death scene, and Tom Grant believed the police

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<v Speaker 1>knew what was coming down the pike. They were feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure of a dead superstar, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like. They had to respond to the public, who

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<v Speaker 1>was angry and confused, where is our music legend? What

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Kurt Kilban? Sometimes cops get ahead of themselves

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy and make a decision, but those decisions aren't always accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Grant was the first person to say he felt

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<v Speaker 1>So he began to heavily record conversations and started to

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<v Speaker 1>he was being used as a pawn. At any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Grant hooks up with Dylan Carlson and arrives in

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle April seventh, around two am. Actually, Carlson founded the

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<v Speaker 1>group Earth. He was one of Kurt's best friends. He

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<v Speaker 1>according to my source, possibly this person had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the death of Kurt Kobank. The first thought,

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<v Speaker 1>we go to his Kurt's house, but they don't find him.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't find him there, but they don't even look

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<v Speaker 1>in plane view of everyone. It sat right on top

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<v Speaker 1>to say he didn't know it existed is crazy. Any

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<v Speaker 1>to the house at ten PM and again doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>in the greenhouse. It really stinks that a private eye

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<v Speaker 1>and a best friend of Kurt's would look in every

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<v Speaker 1>room in the house, but not inside the greenhouse, which

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<v Speaker 1>sat right there, impossible to ignore, but Here's where things

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<v Speaker 1>get even weirder. The first night they searched, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>uncover a letter or a suicide note. But the next

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<v Speaker 1>night they go there, there it is. The letter looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a woman's handwriting. All right, it's even been set.

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<v Speaker 1>Another friend wrote the letter. Some guy named Callie de Witt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now de Witt lived briefly in Seattle while working as

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Bean's nanny, their little baby's nanny. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>de Witt if you look. He's appearing in Drag on

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<v Speaker 1>the actual CD of Nirvana's in Utero. In another weird twist,

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Bean only had male nanny's. I mean, there was

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<v Speaker 1>some females there, but the males tended to her, and

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<v Speaker 1>both of those men were junkies. The other guy was

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<v Speaker 1>named Renee Navarett. It's amazing this kid, Francis Bean is

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<v Speaker 1>alive and now I guess she's with the skateboarder's son Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless. She ended up being a pretty decent looking kid.

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<v Speaker 1>She looks and appears level headed. Who knows, but she

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<v Speaker 1>came out of a war zone. But actually that's why

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<v Speaker 1>Courtney Love didn't trust me when we first met. She

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<v Speaker 1>hated me because I wrote in my column that she

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<v Speaker 1>was shooting Heroin while pregnant, and she threatened to sue,

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<v Speaker 1>but she backed off. And then all things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of all things, we end up living not only in

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<v Speaker 1>the same building in New York City's West Village neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>but on the same floor. And she used to see

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<v Speaker 1>me and put her fingers up as if to make

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<v Speaker 1>the sign of a cross to keep me away, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd shout to her, I know you'd like me

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<v Speaker 1>if you just talked to me, Cortney, just talk to me, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just real, like loud, and she'd run away

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<v Speaker 1>with the fingers crossed. But eventually we met in the

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<v Speaker 1>laundry room by accident. She must have been high, because

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<v Speaker 1>we got along fine folding clothes. She even hugged me

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<v Speaker 1>and said we're cool, no worries. She even liked the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there were a Calvin fine breefs that were

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<v Speaker 1>tight that went to my thigh. She thought those were hot.

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<v Speaker 1>If Courtney Love wrote this suicide note, she had to

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<v Speaker 1>have done it earlier because she was in la so

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<v Speaker 1>there would have been some premeditation. And it's believed by

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<v Speaker 1>many that she wrote it days ahead of time, then

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<v Speaker 1>flew to La as an alibi, and then had DeWitt

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<v Speaker 1>placed the letter on the stairs when it was finally discovered.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing you have to think about when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to attics, especially heroin addicts, they stick together because

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<v Speaker 1>they need each other. They got secrets, they share more

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<v Speaker 1>than needles. Put it that way, they have a vested

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<v Speaker 1>interest in getting more heroin. Protecting Francis Bean from heroin

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<v Speaker 1>was a big thing as well, and they acted as

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<v Speaker 1>a team. And by the way, Courtney and Kurt did

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<v Speaker 1>have female nannies too, because if it were just guys

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<v Speaker 1>on junk, child Protective Services would have taken France as

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<v Speaker 1>being away. So they went about taking care of that

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<v Speaker 1>baby in a very intricate way with multiple people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the person who eventually finds Kurt's body was the

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<v Speaker 1>electrician who was hired by Courtney and gave him instructions

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the lighting in the greenhouse. Interesting those instructions

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<v Speaker 1>given to him from Courtney in Los Angeles, but he

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<v Speaker 1>went Nobody else saw the body, not Tom Grant, not

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<v Speaker 1>any other investigator hired, not any of the nanny friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember at this point there are seven or eighty people

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<v Speaker 1>in this house, and nobody goes to the greenhouse to

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<v Speaker 1>look for Kurt. And when I lose my keys, I

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<v Speaker 1>look in the oven of the bathtub. If you're missing

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<v Speaker 1>the lead singer of Nirvana and a rock superstar, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you check every goddamn room, wouldn't you look everywhere? Sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a cover up. So this dope e electrician walks

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<v Speaker 1>through the French doors to the greenhouse and he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>he sees a mannequin, but then he notices blood leaking

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<v Speaker 1>out of the person's ear. Does he call the cops? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also calls a radio station as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>police and firement and paramedics arrive at the house and

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<v Speaker 1>a Detective Terry was there and a Detective Cameron, who

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<v Speaker 1>happened to be murdered about a month later in a

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<v Speaker 1>very weird circumstance. But let's not get into that conspiracy today.

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<v Speaker 1>But they believe Kurt locked the door behind him, slams

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<v Speaker 1>some heroin. He also had his favorite can of Bark's

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<v Speaker 1>root beer next to him. Then he shot himself with

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<v Speaker 1>his own Remington shotgun. Interesting tidbit here is that the

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<v Speaker 1>dope in his blood was said to be enough to

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<v Speaker 1>kill a rhinoceros. Okay, time for drug school. There are

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<v Speaker 1>people who overdose at point four milligrams per leader of blood,

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<v Speaker 1>So four milligrams of heroin per leader of blood is

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<v Speaker 1>an overdose. Kurt Cobaine had one point five to two

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<v Speaker 1>milligrams milligrams in him. That's five times the amount needed

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<v Speaker 1>to overdose. So if you're a good cop, there's evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of murder already. If esk me, how many guys can

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<v Speaker 1>handle a shotgun with five times a lethal dose of

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<v Speaker 1>heroin pulsing through their blood, chunkies just want to lean

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<v Speaker 1>back a lot of cigarette and wait for the warm

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<v Speaker 1>fade away. I can't even say that without thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>being in the hospital waiting for the morphine shot. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to the hospital, you know, for my pneumonia and

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<v Speaker 1>lung surgery, and I'm sorry, man, we can all admit

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<v Speaker 1>certainly feels good when we hear that nurse's footstep come

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<v Speaker 1>down all and we get that plunge, and man, the cold,

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<v Speaker 1>comfortably numb feeling begins. By the way, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, the last few years that I've been hospitalized

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<v Speaker 1>for different kind of ailments, I don't like this new

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<v Speaker 1>thing where the nurses write their cell phones on the

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<v Speaker 1>board and you're supposed to remember to call them every

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<v Speaker 1>four hours. It ain't like the old days when you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear those shoes squeaking down the hallway at three

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning because you know you're getting the shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got to stay awake and call them. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that. It's bullshit, all right. Back to the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene. Very important to remember, gang, there are no

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<v Speaker 1>prints on the gun, or on the gun's case, or

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<v Speaker 1>on the shells, or on the pen written used for

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<v Speaker 1>this suicide letter. Everything's wiped. So there's evidence of a murder, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think so. So the police immediately follow this

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<v Speaker 1>up as a suicide. But there are so many people

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<v Speaker 1>who believe that a the heroine alone in Kurt's body

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<v Speaker 1>was enough to kill him. He wouldn't have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to hold that shotmun to his face in the state

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<v Speaker 1>he was in. The key question is does anybody really

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<v Speaker 1>know that he's already dead when the gun is stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in his mouth and the trigger pulled. That's a big question.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that true? Was that the way it was? So

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<v Speaker 1>the autopsy was leaked to me and there's no real

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<v Speaker 1>proof that the heroine killed him. The autopsy says there's

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<v Speaker 1>fluid in his trachea and that could be cause for

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of internal damage. But my source says he

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<v Speaker 1>believes Kurt was killed in the basement, ejected with the

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<v Speaker 1>heroine in the basement, and he's moved to the greenhouse

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<v Speaker 1>by two men and they staged the room over a

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<v Speaker 1>forty minute period before a witness hears a gun shot

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<v Speaker 1>go off. Now the point is, we don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt is alive or dead when he's shot. But the

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<v Speaker 1>blast went through his upper palate and there was blood

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of his ear. It didn't blow his head off,

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<v Speaker 1>as people have said, like the big Jane Mannsteel lie

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<v Speaker 1>that she was decapidated. No, she wasn't her wig flew off.

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<v Speaker 1>She was in the back seat. It wasn't her ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>it was her wig. A lot of these things happened

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<v Speaker 1>with the death of Superstars, and Seattle police said that

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt was indescribable when they found him, not recognizable. My

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<v Speaker 1>source says that's bullshit because he has a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain dead. I've seen it. He's definitely identifiable. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you rifle officionados would know that this shotgun he used

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<v Speaker 1>or was used, is it Remington Model eleven with a

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<v Speaker 1>five inch choked on it. It's a long nune so

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<v Speaker 1>most likely he'd have to use his toe to press

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger. Problem is he has his sneakers on tied tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt was five to eight. They know how long. His

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<v Speaker 1>arms were almost impossible to have used his own hand

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<v Speaker 1>on that trigger. Not impossible, but he would have busted

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<v Speaker 1>some teeth in attempting to do that. Another thing is

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<v Speaker 1>the heroin he had in his cigar box next to

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<v Speaker 1>his body. The needles in that box were all capped,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you push that much heroin into your veins,

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<v Speaker 1>a junkie would typically nod out with the needles still

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<v Speaker 1>in his arm, as many people do. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go to New York City when I was doing my

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<v Speaker 1>photography class and I was taking photos up close of

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<v Speaker 1>junkies in New York City in nineteen eighty three, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was intimidating to get close to them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did it first from thirty yards away, then ten, then

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<v Speaker 1>finally I got right up to their face. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have great pictures of these chunkies with needles in there arms,

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<v Speaker 1>nodding off or possibly dying. That's what junkies do, but

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<v Speaker 1>think of it slamming the junk into his arm, then

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<v Speaker 1>capping the needle and placing it back in the box,

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<v Speaker 1>then grabbing a gun, perhaps loading it, cocking it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not impossible, but he'd have to have superpowers to do

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<v Speaker 1>all that after the amount of heroing heroin pulsing in

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<v Speaker 1>his ains. My source says it's possible, but we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a man's life, reputation, and legacy. So my source

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<v Speaker 1>has gone to SEATTLEPD and spoken to a detective and

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<v Speaker 1>presented his case. The detective pretty much acted like there

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing. He acted like he didn't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>bothered by another dead junkie. He was lazy about even

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<v Speaker 1>listening to an alternative idea. But my sources dog he's

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<v Speaker 1>made a career out of looking at the true crime cases.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same person who gave me the OJ

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson had an accomplice theory. And it's so funny that

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<v Speaker 1>that accomplice who he named was actually on CNN's Caitlin

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<v Speaker 1>Collins Show when OJ Simpson died. Fucking CNN had the

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<v Speaker 1>alleged accomplice on the air and didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that school assholes to the end. Anyhow, my

413
00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>source says this is the case that bothers him the

414
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 1>most because he really feels, undoubtedly that Kurt Cobain was murdered.

415
00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 1>He calls her the worst investigation ever. Let's now enter

416
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a man named Matthew Ricker. Matthew Ricker has written about

417
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the death of Kurt Cobain on law for about twenty years.

418
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, he wrote a book when Amazon Kindall

419
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 1>called The Mysterious Death of Kurt Cobain, And in writing

420
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that book, he came to the conclusion that no one

421
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 1>had really done enough with the investigation into his death.

422
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>It was talked about, it was discussed, it was argued over.

423
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 1>But he realized that the Seattle Police Department never really

424
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>did a fall on investigation in ninety four or even

425
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>since then, and that really no one else has either.

426
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things he realized in recent years

427
00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 1>is that there were witnesses from that day April nineteen

428
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 1>ninety four, and that no one had sought to question

429
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>them ever. Even still, so, he rounded up a couple

430
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of witnesses who saw Kurt Cobain on the night he died,

431
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and he recorded some of that testimony, and he set

432
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 1>to release a portion of those interviews in the coming

433
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.319
<v Speaker 1>months to finally try and find that exactly what happened.

434
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure I'll get those ahead of time. So basically,

435
00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>with these interviews conducted and soon to be released, is

436
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 1>in essence giving this writer his flowers and allowing him

437
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 1>to push the facts that he's uncovered. My source is

438
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 1>not sitting home and saying I figured out the whole

439
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Kirk theband case. No, it's not what it is. He

440
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 1>was always doubtful, and when he met the writer, it

441
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 1>was like a domino fell on to him and now

442
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 1>he was ready to really present the truth to all

443
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 1>of us. So that's typically the way he's always worked,

444
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>this PI source of mind. Somebody comes forward with a clue,

445
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>then he goes off and does his own groundwork. And

446
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I first met and met him when

447
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 1>he presented me with the OJ had an accomplice theory,

448
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and I bit because it wasn't the old tired trope

449
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.039
<v Speaker 1>that OJ's son helped him. I never believed that for

450
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a second, but I could believe that something else happened

451
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 1>that night in Brentwood outside Nicole Brown door. Because I

452
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>covered this case as a journalist and I saw the

453
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 1>color photos many months before anybody else could have a

454
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 1>chance to see them. They were very highly guarded back then.

455
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>And one day my editor in chief, Martin Dunn, said,

456
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 1>you won't see the pictures of Ojay's victims. I'm like, yeah,

457
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and I tell you Nicole Brown. She looked like a

458
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>pez dispenser. Her head was peeled back, barely connected to

459
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 1>her spine. And Ronald Goldman looked like he put up

460
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 1>a hell of a fight. He wasn't a small guy. Probably,

461
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 1>if we are to believe what Ronald Goldman was like

462
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>back then, he probably had some cocaine pulsing through his blood,

463
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>although I never heard that theory. But you know, he

464
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't only their waiter at their favorite restaurant, met Salona.

465
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 1>He was also the guy a lot of women in

466
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>back then went to for their coke. Call Fay Resnick

467
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenner two and many years ago, like I guess

468
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, I went out with fair Resnick a

469
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:13.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, and you know, we had some fun

470
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and I got her comfortable enough to talk Turkey with

471
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>me and even she can fight it at OJ that

472
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 1>she didn't think OJ did all that by himself, and

473
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>she hinted that Nicole had big problems and issues with

474
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 1>drug dealers of the Columbian kind. And my sources kind

475
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of always delve into this theory that the accomplice, alleged

476
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>accomplice of OJ, there was something going on with drug dealers,

477
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Colombian cartel, blah blah blah. Very messy. But this writer

478
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 1>has spent over twenty years with this story. He was

479
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>even paired with the privadi Tom Grant for a time.

480
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 1>He wrote the book that anyone can read if you

481
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>want to, So the credit should go to him for

482
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the legwork. But let me finish up by talking about

483
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>some of the evidence again. As we said, a ton

484
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of heroin in his system. Was he killed in another

485
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 1>room with that heroin pushed and moved to the greenhouse.

486
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Police didn't even look to check if there was any

487
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>evidence of him being in any other room but the greenhouse,

488
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and there were people in the house. Did police interview them. No,

489
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 1>So they're flying blind at this point. They're flying blind.

490
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.799
<v Speaker 1>From the start. We've seen a lot of crime cases

491
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 1>bungled and This could easily be another one of those.

492
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Why aren't any of Kurt Cobain's prints on the gun,

493
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 1>on the hand, on the case, on the trigger, etc.

494
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Why are there no prince? And why isn't Kurt's prince

495
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>on the red pen that was used to write this

496
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 1>suicide note? And that red pen was stabbed through the

497
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 1>note into a pot of dirt. No prints on the

498
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 1>pen because all the objects were wiped down. Why is

499
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the twenty gage shell of bird shot on the wrong

500
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 1>side of the ejection chamber? And in addition, the last

501
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 1>four lines of that note are in a different font

502
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people who looked at it say

503
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not Kurt's handwriting. My source says, there's no way

504
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's Kurt's handwriting. He even had handwriting experts look at

505
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 1>it and they agree it's not kurtz which could basically

506
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>mean this note was written days before he was killed.

507
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is where my source says things decidedly point

508
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to Courtney Love. An interesting thing to note is that

509
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>when Tom Grant met with Courtney, he said she had

510
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>a sample of Kurt's handwriting and her backpack. Apparently he

511
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>wrote something down on the back of an I hop

512
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>menu and she kept it. And they also say she

513
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>made attempts on that menu to trace letters in Kurt's

514
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>style of writing. Why would anybody do that? She even

515
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>wrote down that paper the words quote get arrested. In

516
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the last four lines of that letter, it should be

517
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>noted were I love you, I love you. You'll all

518
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>be happy without me? And my source says those were

519
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 1>not written by Kurt. If he's divorcing Courtney Love and

520
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 1>writing her out of his will, and she tells her

521
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 1>friend Rosemary Carroll, find me the nastiest divorce attorney in

522
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 1>the world. Then she and Kurt already at odds he's

523
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>breaking up Nirvana. There goes that money, there goes her marriage,

524
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 1>there goes her rights to the music. But what happens

525
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 1>if he dies? Who would Herod's all the money? Who

526
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>would Herod's all the music, writes Courtney Love. Wouldn't you

527
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>consider that a motive? Here's her second motive, the people

528
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>who were at the house, because he says there were

529
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>multiple killers who took part in this, all multiple accessories.

530
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Did Courtney maybe whisper in their ears. Look, if you

531
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>do this, I'll take care of you. You'll get a house.

532
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>You'll get heroin the rest of your life, free drugs,

533
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 1>free money. Just get rid of them. And my source

534
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.719
<v Speaker 1>also has proof that Courtney bought a house for one

535
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of those people in Los Angeles. Now you can play

536
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Devil's advocates say, well, she had money, so she bought

537
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.599
<v Speaker 1>a house for a friend. Yeah, okay, but come on,

538
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>she also gave money right away to a few of

539
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>them to go to rehab. Just flast them thirty grand

540
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>right away, no questions asked. Take your girlfriend too, both,

541
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you get healthy on me. Now. He's very careful to

542
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>say he's not implicating her in the murder, but that's

543
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a conspiracy, to be sure. And then

544
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that final night, Kurt arrives at the airport and Courtney

545
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>arranges for him to be picked up. They get it

546
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>right home from a female friend. It's very, very late

547
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>the night of April first. By the time he gets home,

548
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:18.159
<v Speaker 1>it's the early morning als of April second. So everyone

549
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>at the house knows Kurt's coming home shortly, and Courtney

550
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>tells them, look, he left rehab, he's on his way back.

551
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 1>He'll be there momentarily. At that time, there are eight

552
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>people in the house, Kurk gets home, has a meal

553
00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because when he was dead, they found food in his

554
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>stomach not fully digested, so he ate the meal when

555
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he got home. He's still wearing the medical bracelet from

556
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the rehab even when they find his body. There's still

557
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a plane ticket in his pocket. There's money in his pocket.

558
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>He just got home from the airport. So why does

559
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>he still have that stuff in his pocket when they

560
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>find him dead. Why is he's still winning the bracelet

561
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 1>from rehab? He would keep them on for six days. No.

562
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 1>From my pi's investigation, Having spoken to the witness that

563
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>came forward from the informant, from multiple people who've known

564
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 1>these people for years, he says Kurt wanted these people

565
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 1>to leave the house. You know, hey, guys, you gotta go.

566
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 1>You're shooting up, you're smoking, you're nodding off. It's getting late.

567
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go. They don't want to hear it. They're

568
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>not going anywhere. He believed things may have heightened between

569
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.800
<v Speaker 1>them and the voices that were raised, and maybe some

570
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>pushing and shoving and maybe some threats between friends what

571
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>have you, between druggie friends. He thinks he was assaulted

572
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and knocked down, knocked out by two men in front

573
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of women, and then they begin to shoot them up

574
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>with heroin that's already preloaded, so they know they're doing this.

575
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>This was a setup. And you should also know when

576
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the gun is purchased by Dylan Carlson, it's not in

577
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain's name, and my PI has the receipt. Dylan

578
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Carlson bought the gun, not Kurt. He made up a

579
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 1>story that Kurt wanted a gun. But let me ask you,

580
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 1>when Kurt Cobain want to buy a gun today? He

581
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>was gonna fly out to rehab, like on March thirtieth

582
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or something. That doesn't make much sense. So the upshoot,

583
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>according to my guy, is Kurt is assaulted, shot out

584
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 1>with junk in front of people. He's then carried to

585
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the greenhouse. Is he alive at this point we don't

586
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 1>exactly know. But about thirty to forty minutes later a

587
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>gun shot is heard. That's the shot in the mouth.

588
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>After that, these people stay in the house. So my

589
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>guy says, the killers are the killers of Kurt Cobain

590
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:53.360
<v Speaker 1>are Dylan Carlson and Daniel clint Rich. Now everybody who

591
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 1>knows this case knows who Dylan Carlson is, but only

592
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>my guy as id'd who Danny rich is. Nobody knows

593
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that name with regard to this case, and now you do.

594
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 1>The accessories or witnesses are Michael Kelly de Witt, Renee Navarett,

595
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Jessica Hopper, Jennifer Adamson, and Bonnie Dillard. These people have

596
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>been caught talking about this before. And even though we

597
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 1>still might have people saying, oh everything is here, say well,

598
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>my guy isn't a cop. He's a storyteller. He's solved

599
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.679
<v Speaker 1>murders in the past, He's identified killers in the past.

600
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.760
<v Speaker 1>That's what he does best. But the question that bothers

601
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 1>my mind though, if this was a murder, why the shotgun?

602
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>They could have just shot all that dope into him,

603
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>as they possibly did, and let that take its natural course.

604
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>The thing is all these people obviously have the right

605
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 1>to remain silent and never talk about his case, and

606
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in doing so they're standing behind the us CA institution.

607
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.679
<v Speaker 1>But if they were interrogated as they should have been

608
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and then decided not to talk, now you're looking at

609
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>obstructing justice. But until the detective with balls does just that,

610
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>this will always be seen as a Kirk Cobain suicide.

611
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>What else should people think when police never even interviewed

612
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>them or got statements from these people? See, that's what

613
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 1>it all goes downhill very fast. According to my source

614
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.679
<v Speaker 1>and myself, we've seen many cases of terrible police work,

615
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's where my sources specialty really is. And when

616
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you lay out the facts as we've just done, I

617
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:48.199
<v Speaker 1>for one, honestly believe Kirk Cobain was murdered. Now, with

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<v Speaker 1>respect to this rumor that there is a love child,

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<v Speaker 1>all I can tell you about that is I've seen pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen comments where this particular love child is next

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Bean. I don't know her name. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>things are very tight and dangerous and it's a subject

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<v Speaker 1>that's not to be dilly dallied with. So right now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have much more than just telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>you might be hearing about a love child down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you do, you know you got that from first.

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<v Speaker 1>But until I can confirm it, it's just that a rumor.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do have the pictures that say otherwise. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, when we start first out of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a free show every week that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna detail some of the most fantastic and outrageous murders,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy stories from the last two or three decades, even

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<v Speaker 1>further back. It won't be so much me hearkening back

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<v Speaker 1>to my days as a columnist, et cetera, but more

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<v Speaker 1>about the the blood and guts of murder cases that

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<v Speaker 1>just seem off. Maybe there's a different angle on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these cases we've all kind of gone to bed

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<v Speaker 1>with and accepted. We'll see in the meantime. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>for today. I met A J. Benzon. That was your

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<v Speaker 1>free show September eleventh, twenty twenty three. We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us next week.
