Speaker 1: The battle of capitalism versus socialism is taking to the
Speaker 1: streets and bizarre voting processes in New York City. Brandon
Speaker 1: Strock is one of the Republican Party's top organizers, and
Speaker 1: he's dispatched to the Big Apple to defeat the Zoron.
Speaker 2: His report is at the top of the show.
Speaker 1: Plus Coriy DeAngelis is here to follow how the Trump
Speaker 1: administration is using new powers unlocked by the Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: and we get perspective on the violence in Syria by
Speaker 1: a man who has spent time there.
Speaker 2: It's all next to the Matt Gates Show. Let's do
Speaker 2: this shaking up Washington, d C. We're breaking the fever.
Speaker 2: Do you haven't watch this guy on television. It's like
Speaker 2: a machine. He's great. Matt Gates. New York City.
Speaker 1: It's the global symbol of capitalism and it's about to
Speaker 1: fall to a socialist government in the form of mayoral
Speaker 1: candidate Zoron Mamdani. If you don't live in New York
Speaker 1: City and don't plan to go there, given Gotham's decline,
Speaker 1: you may be wondering why.
Speaker 2: This story matters to you. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Donnie is able to show coalition building that brings together
Speaker 1: yuppie whites and non white voters. You are going to
Speaker 1: see leftist politics in the United States look a lot
Speaker 1: less like Bill Clinton and Al Gore and a lot
Speaker 1: more like AOC and the Zorn. You'll start to see
Speaker 1: it in Democrat executive committees in your community all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, The sensible Democrats who don't want to defund
Speaker 1: the police or turn your son into a girl are
Speaker 1: going to be replaced with the likes of this.
Speaker 3: We have to continue to elect more socialists, and we
Speaker 3: have to ensure that we are unapologetic about our socialism.
Speaker 4: Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist.
Speaker 5: I don't think that we should have billionaires.
Speaker 4: Shift the tax burden from over taxed homeowners and the
Speaker 4: outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and wider neighborhoods.
Speaker 4: Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.
Speaker 5: That is just an description of what we see right now.
Speaker 3: Whether you called the abbol of private property or you
Speaker 3: call it just a state wide housing guarantee, it is
Speaker 3: preferable to what is going on right now.
Speaker 6: We're going to provide sixty five million dollars in funding
Speaker 6: their genders.
Speaker 5: For care, r'mes of Ramadhani, and as mayor, I will
Speaker 5: create a network of city owned grocery stores. It's like
Speaker 5: a public option for produce.
Speaker 3: Also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's
Speaker 3: BDS right or whether it's the end goal of season,
Speaker 3: the means of production.
Speaker 2: Bad idea is and somehow a worse sweater.
Speaker 1: New York isn't just a city, it's a loud symbol
Speaker 1: of American exceptionalism. Then all kinda knew that New York
Speaker 1: cranks out mayors like the Kardashians crank out skincare lines,
Speaker 1: and each somehow manages to be more clownish than the last.
Speaker 2: I legitimately, miss Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He wanted to take
Speaker 2: away your big gulp.
Speaker 1: But at least the trains ran on time after running
Speaker 1: New York City rather effectively. This is how Bloomberg was
Speaker 1: treated by his fellow Democrats.
Speaker 7: Billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse faced lesbians. No,
Speaker 7: I'm not talking about Donald Trump, I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg.
Speaker 7: Jena Press are not going to win if we have
Speaker 7: a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns.
Speaker 7: Of harassing women and of supporting racist policies like redlining
Speaker 7: and stop and frisk.
Speaker 1: Senator Pocahontas would like to speak to the manager enter
Speaker 1: Zoron Mamdani. Every time I see the name, it feels
Speaker 1: like I'm summoning some sort of nemesis of Batman. The
Speaker 1: scary part the gen Z crowd in New York is
Speaker 1: eating it up like it's free tofu.
Speaker 2: At a Bernie rally.
Speaker 1: Zoron is a state assemblyman from Queen's which sounds impressive
Speaker 1: and soil you realize New York has more elected officials
Speaker 1: than it has rats. Zoron is basically what would happen
Speaker 1: if AOC's tweetscrew legs put on a scarf and started
Speaker 1: yelling about housing justice while sipping a.
Speaker 2: Twelve dollars oat milk latte.
Speaker 1: He's got all the socialist swagger and probably a Spotify
Speaker 1: playlist that's about ninety percent NPR podcasts. He's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy who uses the word neo liberalism in casual conversation,
Speaker 1: saying things like this community is being oppressed by the
Speaker 1: violence of systemic zoning. Zoron's not just here to complain
Speaker 1: about capitalism. He wants to abolish it, which makes sense
Speaker 1: because if I were a socialist with a Gucci belt
Speaker 1: living in an apartment my parents paid for, I'd want
Speaker 1: to abolish capitalism too. The man tweeted that landlords should
Speaker 1: not exist. Bro, you live in a city where even
Speaker 1: the pigeons have landlords, Good luck with that. Let's not
Speaker 1: forget his grand vision a city without police, without landlords,
Speaker 1: without billionaires, also probably without electricity, plumbing, or protein. In
Speaker 1: a sane world, someone suggesting we abolish the police and
Speaker 1: all of these things would not be taken seriously. They'd
Speaker 1: be politely asked to step away from the group project
Speaker 1: of governance. But in New York City, he's cool, he's visionary,
Speaker 1: he's got a campaign logo that looks like it was
Speaker 1: designed by Banksy on a sugar high. But here's the
Speaker 1: punchline that people who vote for Zoron don't actually want
Speaker 1: to live in the world he is selling. They just
Speaker 1: want to tweet about it. They just want a virtue signal.
Speaker 1: They're keyboard revolutionaries. They want their socialist utopia with Wi Fi,
Speaker 1: Whole Foods and a four point eight uber rating.
Speaker 2: Eric Adams is the current mayor of New York.
Speaker 1: He's a part time nightclub enthusiast and has been costplaying
Speaker 1: as a centrist ever since his approval ratings started free
Speaker 1: falling like Joe Biden on a bicycle.
Speaker 2: Is Adams the best option to take on Zoron?
Speaker 1: Or? Is there a Cuomo resurgence? Like a phoenix rising
Speaker 1: from the ashes? The former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo
Speaker 1: lost the Democratic primary in New York, He's stayed in
Speaker 1: the race to run in the general election as an independent.
Speaker 1: So who comes out on top in this big Apple
Speaker 1: political hunger games? Joining us now founder of the walk
Speaker 1: Away campaign Brandon Strock.
Speaker 2: So, Brandon, give us an update from the ground.
Speaker 1: How are you organizing activists to take on Zoron Mamdani?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So, I actually have moved back to New York
Speaker 8: City and with the main purpose here of wanting to
Speaker 8: fight this guy. Because I've lived in New York City
Speaker 8: for over twenty years. I love the city. I'm very
Speaker 8: concerned about the road that we could be going down
Speaker 8: if they decide to embrace putting a mayor into office
Speaker 8: who supports democratic socialism. What I'm trying to do here
Speaker 8: in New York is gather as many people as I
Speaker 8: can on the ground and actually deploy volunteers to canvas boroughs.
Speaker 8: I'll go to all areas of New York City, and
Speaker 8: we really need to be talking to black people and
Speaker 8: Hispanic people. We need to be talking to young people
Speaker 8: gen z college kids and letting them know that the
Speaker 8: seduction of the idea of free everything from socialist policies
Speaker 8: might sound really great and might address a lot of
Speaker 8: the pain points that New Yorkers have, which by the way,
Speaker 8: are very real, and I want to make that very clear.
Speaker 8: Rents are too high in New York. Life is afford
Speaker 8: unaffordable in New York. Groceries are unaffordable. So the pain
Speaker 8: points are very real. But the solutions being proposed by
Speaker 8: Mom Donnie are not real solutions. And in fact, for
Speaker 8: a lot of the groups of people that I just named,
Speaker 8: their lives are going to become markedly worse if we
Speaker 8: actually go down this road, and the city I think
Speaker 8: really could be on the verge of collapse. So I
Speaker 8: take this very very seriously, And in addition to deploying
Speaker 8: volunteers and trying to educate people all over New York,
Speaker 8: including these different minority factions, We're also going to be
Speaker 8: doing events all over the city, including marches, rallies, debates,
Speaker 8: and tabling events right on the street, including what I'm
Speaker 8: doing on July twenty seventh, Sunday July twenty seventh and
Speaker 8: Union Square. We're going to be doing a rally and
Speaker 8: a tabling event where we're actually going to be conversing
Speaker 8: with and debating New Yorkers right and one of the
Speaker 8: busiest areas of New York, which is Union Square, to
Speaker 8: educate people on the dangers of socialism. And one more
Speaker 8: thing I'll say about that is we're inviting every mayoral
Speaker 8: candidate to come and attend this rally with us, and
Speaker 8: we've already heard from Curtis Sliwa and a couple of others,
Speaker 8: so I think it's going to be a great event.
Speaker 1: I would pose it that Mom, Donnie's connection with working
Speaker 1: class voters is probably pretty instant, and if there is
Speaker 1: a part of his coalition that is weakest, it's those
Speaker 1: New Yorkers who go to work every day and actually
Speaker 1: have that capitalist energy to make a better life for themselves.
Speaker 1: Do you see that as a vulnerable group within his coalition?
Speaker 8: I think so, But I mean I think again, if
Speaker 8: you're living in New York City. You know, like I said,
Speaker 8: as I have, for a very long time, you've seen
Speaker 8: the city become progressively more unavailable and unaffordable to everybody.
Speaker 8: So you don't even have to necessarily be a working
Speaker 8: class person anymore to find it almost impossible to get
Speaker 8: by in New York City. So again I use the
Speaker 8: word seductive because I do think that the solutions he's proposing,
Speaker 8: in the ways in which he's addressing people's pain points,
Speaker 8: it's I think he's making people feel like maybe there's
Speaker 8: a let me say, I was going to say, a
Speaker 8: path forward, but let me also say I think a
Speaker 8: lot of people too have kind of gotten to this
Speaker 8: point where they're almost like, screw the government and let's
Speaker 8: break the system, because people are feeling like they just
Speaker 8: can't get ahead and they're being held down. And I
Speaker 8: can understand why a person would feel that way if
Speaker 8: they're out there working two or three jobs and still
Speaker 8: struggling to just get by and saying, well, why am
Speaker 8: I trying? So I'm trying to do everything right and
Speaker 8: I can't make it. The problem, I say again, is
Speaker 8: that the policies that he's putting forward are not going
Speaker 8: to improve people's lives.
Speaker 9: They're going to make things much much worse.
Speaker 8: And this is I think one of the most egregious examples.
Speaker 8: People ask me all the time, Well, you know, we
Speaker 8: have Alexandro Casio Cortes, we have the Squad in DC,
Speaker 8: so you know, how is this different. I actually think
Speaker 8: he's more radical than the squad, and I think that
Speaker 8: the policies he's pushing for are more radical, including the
Speaker 8: fact that you know, he's not just part of Congress.
Speaker 8: He's talking about running the economic capital of i'd say
Speaker 8: the world, certainly the United States of America. You know,
Speaker 8: he wants the government to control power, he wants the
Speaker 8: government to control housing, he wants the government to control grocery,
Speaker 8: and there's really no limit to what he wants the
Speaker 8: government to not be in control of in New Yorker's lives.
Speaker 8: And I have no idea who he thinks is going
Speaker 8: to pay for all of this, especially when you know
Speaker 8: his whole thing is, well, we're just going to overtax
Speaker 8: the rich. We're going to continue to tax wealthy people.
Speaker 8: What he's calling a wealthy person as a person making
Speaker 8: a million dollars or more a year in New York City,
Speaker 8: that's not that much money in New York. I mean,
Speaker 8: it might sound like a lot of money to a
Speaker 8: lot of people. It's a lot of money to me,
Speaker 8: but it's a million dollars a year. I don't think
Speaker 8: it creates a wealthy person in New York City. It's
Speaker 8: a very unaffordable city. So I think we're going to
Speaker 8: see a mass exodus from New York when he wants
Speaker 8: the government to be in controlled paying for everything, and
Speaker 8: the people who are gonna have to pay for this
Speaker 8: are people that are really not even that wealthy.
Speaker 1: Imagine people fleeing New York to New Jersey for better governance.
Speaker 1: I would have never imagined, but may actually be on
Speaker 1: the horizon. So, Brandon, you're an experienced political operative. How
Speaker 1: do we avoid winning the argument and losing the lie?
Speaker 1: And I ask that because I see Eric Adams has
Speaker 1: a small cohortive voters, Andrew Cuomo seems to be in
Speaker 1: the swan song of his career but still nonetheless running.
Speaker 1: Curtis Sliwa has a batch of voters who've been voting
Speaker 1: for him to no avail for some time.
Speaker 2: Is there any chance that that.
Speaker 1: Will divide the majority, that you will persuade to vote
Speaker 1: against Zoran.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it definitely will.
Speaker 8: And I mean there's going to have to come a
Speaker 8: reckoning and very very soon where these gentlemen take a
Speaker 8: hard look at what the true viability is of their
Speaker 8: ability to be successful and that we're going to have
Speaker 8: to rally behind one person. I mean, that's going to
Speaker 8: have to happen, and it's going to have to happen
Speaker 8: very very soon. But in regards also to your question
Speaker 8: about winning the argument, you know, one thing that I
Speaker 8: hear we have an uphill battle as conservatives in New
Speaker 8: York City. You know, it's been a very long time
Speaker 8: since conservatives have gotten behind Republican candidates. And one thing
Speaker 8: that is not going to help us, I think, is
Speaker 8: attacking this guy in this sort of alarmist state. I
Speaker 8: hear a lot of conservatives saying, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 8: he's a Muslim, he's an Islamist, he's you know, all
Speaker 8: these different things, and okay, that's fine. But the thing
Speaker 8: is we have to also recognize the fact that record
Speaker 8: numbers of gen Z people came out to vote for
Speaker 8: the very first time in this primary to support him.
Speaker 8: They don't care, you know, So things like that are
Speaker 8: not going to win these people over. And I also think,
Speaker 8: you know, he's he's got a lot of support among
Speaker 8: racial minorities, of course, and of course white liberals, you know.
Speaker 8: So I think what we have to do is not
Speaker 8: focus on these sort of alarmist talking points that get
Speaker 8: conservatives sort of up in arms. But I want to recognize, Look,
Speaker 8: I look at this guy. I've said this many times
Speaker 8: and I'll say it again. He's a charming guy. He's charismatic.
Speaker 8: You know, I get the appeal, you know. I watch
Speaker 8: him doing his videos and out they're interacting with people,
Speaker 8: and I think, you know, if I didn't think that
Speaker 8: his policy prescription was horrifying and his plans for New
Speaker 8: York City were catastrophic, I would think that this guy
Speaker 8: was If I met him at a party, I would say, hey,
Speaker 8: this is a pretty cool guy. Maybe we could hang
Speaker 8: out some time, maybe we could be friends. But unfortunately,
Speaker 8: this is a much more dire situation than that. So
Speaker 8: I think what we have to do is not try
Speaker 8: to convince people that he's a terrible person. We have
Speaker 8: to try to convince people that he has terrible policy ideas,
Speaker 8: and while also recognizing that the issues that he's addressing,
Speaker 8: like the unaffordability of New York and safety issues and
Speaker 8: things like that. What he's trying to put forward as
Speaker 8: policy ideas are absolutely terrible and are not going to
Speaker 8: make people's lives any better, you know. I mean, this
Speaker 8: guy wants to abolish ice, he wants to defund the police,
Speaker 8: he wants the government to control everything in people's lives.
Speaker 9: It's not good.
Speaker 8: He wants to provide free public transportation for people. I mean,
Speaker 8: we already have a subway system that's subsidized by the
Speaker 8: government and also paid for by New Yorkers and taxpayers.
Speaker 8: But it's a terrible It's the most unreliable public transportation system.
Speaker 8: And I can only imagine you put the government in
Speaker 8: charge completely of public transportation.
Speaker 9: It's not gonna get better. It's gonna get much much worse.
Speaker 1: And we wonder, in that need to avoid the splintering dynamic,
Speaker 1: how do you do it? I mean, you've got the
Speaker 1: polling showing Cuomo among the non Mamdani candidates leading, but
Speaker 1: he's already lost to Mamdani, and so the other folks
Speaker 1: would say, well, why would we concede to someone who's
Speaker 1: already lost to this person? Sliwa is in second place.
Speaker 1: The other two would say, well, gosh, Sleiwa has lost repeatedly,
Speaker 1: he's not someone who really is campaigning to win the election.
Speaker 1: And Eric Adams is the incumbent, but he's the one
Speaker 1: polling the lowest of the three, and why would two
Speaker 1: people pulling higher than Eric Adams fold in behind him?
Speaker 1: So with that being like the normative construct overall this,
Speaker 1: what do you think the odds are that you can
Speaker 1: have a unified force to rally these people too? Because Brandon,
Speaker 1: if you go out and have these rallies, organize these
Speaker 1: folks tables, sign people up, you have to push them
Speaker 1: to something, not just away from Mamdani.
Speaker 8: Right, Well, yes and no, But I think we have
Speaker 8: to do two things at the same time. I think
Speaker 8: we have to push them away from the magic wand
Speaker 8: hypnot hypnosis that I think that they're under believing that
Speaker 8: democratic socialism is going to fix their problems. But then yes,
Speaker 8: I think that we have to somehow find a candidate
Speaker 8: that we can all get behind. And again, it's going
Speaker 8: to require some teamwork, it's going to require people putting
Speaker 8: their egos aside, and I think doing what's best for
Speaker 8: New York City.
Speaker 9: I don't think we're there.
Speaker 1: It's a city of egos, isn't New York like the
Speaker 1: place nobody puts their ego aside?
Speaker 8: Well, our president I think hails from New York City,
Speaker 8: and he's certainly got a big personality to be mayor.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to be able to talk
Speaker 1: him into the mayoral race. I don't think does Adams
Speaker 1: have a prayer in this thing?
Speaker 2: Brandon?
Speaker 1: Are you do you really look at I mean, Eric
Speaker 1: Adams is down in single digits. Every one of his
Speaker 1: political events looks like one of the scenes from the
Speaker 1: movie Coming to America? Is this guy actually running a
Speaker 1: credible campaign?
Speaker 9: I think there's a lot of work to be done.
Speaker 8: But I look, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing
Speaker 8: right now if I didn't think that there was a
Speaker 8: solid chance that we can overtake this mom Donnie guy.
Speaker 8: I don't know at this point who is going to
Speaker 8: drop out of the race so that we can sort
Speaker 8: of coalesce and I'll get behind somebody with a solid
Speaker 8: chance and try to create a united force.
Speaker 2: But I know, showing up at your events, do you
Speaker 2: what do they want?
Speaker 1: Like the people who are showing up not to argue
Speaker 1: with you, but because they're waking up. They're hearing your
Speaker 1: call to get involved in save Gotham from the socialist villain.
Speaker 1: Do you you know, are they coming with that singular
Speaker 1: focus or do you have some sleeve.
Speaker 2: What people come? Some Cuomo people come, and some Adams
Speaker 2: people come.
Speaker 8: Well, there's people from all over the political spectrum. And
Speaker 8: that's what I'm actually telling people too. Look, I don't
Speaker 8: even care if you're a current Democrat, if you're a
Speaker 8: registered Democrat who loves the Democratic Party. All I'm asking
Speaker 8: for is for people to recognize that opening the door
Speaker 8: to socialism in New York City, that's a door we
Speaker 8: haven't really opened before. And once, I think, once we
Speaker 8: take the lid off that box, we can't put it
Speaker 8: back on. So I'm asking people, Look, you don't have
Speaker 8: to abandon your party, you don't have to abandon your principles,
Speaker 8: but you have to take a hard look at what
Speaker 8: we're talking about doing here and recognizing that this is
Speaker 8: a step farther than we've ever gone before. And I
Speaker 8: think it's a very catastrophic step. Who shows up at
Speaker 8: these events, it's all kinds of people. I mean, we have,
Speaker 8: you know, former Bernie Sanders supporters, we have former AOC supporters,
Speaker 8: and then of course we have everyone in between, centrist people,
Speaker 8: moderate Democrats, former Democrats, and then.
Speaker 9: Of course there are people on the right.
Speaker 8: Some people you know, love Trump, some people are more
Speaker 8: traditional Republicans who maybe aren't totally behind the Magamus movement.
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to push any particular policy idea or
Speaker 8: political party. What I'm trying to do is bring people
Speaker 8: together across the spectrum to say, let's all rally together
Speaker 8: to not open the door to democratic socialism in New York, say.
Speaker 1: Gotham, like say superhero Brandon Strock has gone to Gotham
Speaker 1: to save the city, and we wish you well on
Speaker 1: that mission. Safe, stay safe when you're out there in
Speaker 1: Union Park. You can get a little dicey sometimes.
Speaker 8: Thanks Matt, I appreciate that. I just want to tell
Speaker 8: everyone quickly. July twenty seventh, one pm, Union Square, Please
Speaker 8: be there. You can get more information at Walkaway campaign
Speaker 8: dot com, slash events.
Speaker 9: Please come out and support.
Speaker 1: All right, stay safe, Thanks for being here, Thanks Matt,
Speaker 1: And coming up. The Supreme Court has issued a ruling
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Speaker 1: break down what that means for the future of the
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe it with the media obsession over the
Speaker 1: Epstein files, but the Trump administration is having a banger week.
Speaker 1: Let's start on Capitol Hill, where the Senate is just
Speaker 1: passed Trump's spending reduction legislation. It cuts about nine billion
Speaker 1: dollars in foreign aid, PBS, NPR. The bill goes back
Speaker 1: to the House for some final approval of amendments, but
Speaker 1: that shouldn't have any drama. Score a win for the
Speaker 1: costs cutters and for the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't just in.
Speaker 1: The legislative halls that Trump saw his agenda advancing. This week,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court issued a six y three ruling that
Speaker 1: dramatically increased the power of the president to say his
Speaker 1: two favorite words, you fight. The Supreme Court lifted a
Speaker 1: lower court injunction that had blocked the Trump administration from
Speaker 1: carrying out mass layoffs of nearly fourteen hundred.
Speaker 2: Department of Education staff.
Speaker 1: This effectively allowed the firings and the dismantling effort to proceed,
Speaker 1: at least for now. The three liberal justices so Demayora, Kagan,
Speaker 1: and Jackson issued a nineteen page descent, calling the ruling indefensible.
Speaker 2: They warned it.
Speaker 1: Violated separation of powers by enabling the president to dismantle
Speaker 1: statutory agencies through firings alone, and that is exactly what
Speaker 1: I voted for. Following the Court's decision, the Trump administration
Speaker 1: stated it will proceed with the planned reductions in force
Speaker 1: and transfer key programs such as student loans and special
Speaker 1: education to other federal agencies. Education Secretary Linda McMahon and
Speaker 1: Trump framed the move as a shift towards state control,
Speaker 1: efficiency and accountability. There's some squawking from lawmakers about Trump's
Speaker 1: penny pinching. Ten Republican senators have asked the administration to
Speaker 1: put a hold on impoundment of funds to the Department
Speaker 1: of Education. So will the Trump attack on the bureaucratic
Speaker 1: state continue like a bulldozer, or will some Republicans wringing
Speaker 1: their hands and wetting the bed over a government actually
Speaker 1: getting smaller prevail Joining us now, Executive director of the
Speaker 1: Education Freedom Institute and Senior fellow at the American Culture Project,
Speaker 1: Corey DeAngelis, So, Corey, what does the recent Supreme Court
Speaker 1: ruling mean for the future of the Department of Education?
Speaker 2: All it means we can dwindle it down a little bit.
Speaker 11: Further, it does require an Act of Congress still to
Speaker 11: totally dismantle the Department of Education. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 11: Linda McMahon can't get in there and body slam it
Speaker 11: from the inside and kill it from the inside by
Speaker 11: giving it a death by a thousand cuts. So this
Speaker 11: all started because the Trump administration wanted to fire about
Speaker 11: fourteen hundred employees. That's nearly half of their their staffing,
Speaker 11: which is a it's a good start. That's we want
Speaker 11: to get all the way there. But basically this should
Speaker 11: have never needed to go to the Supreme Court. There
Speaker 11: was a lower court ruling out of communist Massachusetts where
Speaker 11: you had an activist judge side with the teachers union, and.
Speaker 2: If this should have been.
Speaker 11: Unanimous at the Supreme Court. This is the chief executive
Speaker 11: being able to manage the executive branch. I mean, this
Speaker 11: isn't really rocket science here. But you had the three
Speaker 11: liberal justices thescent on this decision. Obviously it's ridiculous that
Speaker 11: they're so partisan, but you have one of the three
Speaker 11: liberal justices who doesn't even know what a woman is,
Speaker 11: so it doesn't surprise me that they got this decision
Speaker 11: wrong as well. But this allows the Trump administration to
Speaker 11: continue mass firings at the Department of Education. So we
Speaker 11: got the green light to move full speed ahead on
Speaker 11: Trump's mission to make the Department of Education more efficient.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's really the question.
Speaker 1: The ruling relates to an injunction over a group of
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred people who were fired. I sense that you
Speaker 1: don't get You don't get the vibe that the lack
Speaker 1: of those fourteen hundred people being at the DOE has
Speaker 1: negatively impacted the education of children. But you wonder what
Speaker 1: the next layer of that is. Are there other programs
Speaker 1: other people beyond this fourteen hundred that you th should
Speaker 1: specifically be targeted at the DOE.
Speaker 2: And if so, who are what?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I don't think the federal government should be involved in
Speaker 11: education at all, Matt the word but who after next?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, you would throw the whole agency
Speaker 1: into a winship. Yeah, but but but but like, we're
Speaker 1: doing this in layers, So I'm trying to I'm trying
Speaker 1: to game plan the strategy with you.
Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, A lot of things haven't really changed since
Speaker 11: those layoffs were announced, So I don't think they were
Speaker 11: doing much of anything to begin with. That department doesn't
Speaker 11: educate a single child, it doesn't employ a single teacher.
Speaker 11: So I'm not sure on the margins of where they're
Speaker 11: going to kind of fine tune and tweak the staffing
Speaker 11: going forward.
Speaker 12: But you're you're right.
Speaker 11: I do wish they would just bulldoze the entire building
Speaker 11: and replace it with I don't know, a statue or
Speaker 11: something something that does actually more more, more good than
Speaker 11: the harm that the Department of Education is doing. Uh,
Speaker 11: right now, and since its inception, the proof is in
Speaker 11: the pudding. The outcomes haven't gotten any better, They've gotten worse.
Speaker 11: It's spent nearly three trillion dollars since it has started.
Speaker 11: And look, if you're concerned about things like student loans,
Speaker 11: Trump has already announced that moves over to the Small
Speaker 11: Business Administration. The bill in Congress to totally dismantle it.
Speaker 11: Even if we got that far, things like headstart would
Speaker 11: move under the Health and Human Services Department. So any
Speaker 11: vital functions like civil rights protections would over under the
Speaker 11: Department of Justice. So you don't need this additional layer
Speaker 11: of bureaucracy, right, and so many of those things like
Speaker 11: getting people healthy, making sure people's rights are protected, that's
Speaker 11: not stuff that lends itself to an education bureaucrat anyway.
Speaker 1: And so that type of reorganization just makes good business sense.
Speaker 1: And if they are going to build a statue where
Speaker 1: the Department of Education building is, I would suggest they
Speaker 1: build it. Of Linda McMahon, she has really exceeded expectations.
Speaker 2: Were expectation of style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she has really gone over there with an effective approach.
Speaker 1: She laid the necessary groundwork for the decision to be
Speaker 1: upheld your take on Linda McMahon so far as the secretary.
Speaker 11: Oh, she's doing a fantastic job. And I was just
Speaker 11: talking to someone in Washington, d C. About this a
Speaker 11: couple hours ago that she is the perfect person for
Speaker 11: the job because.
Speaker 2: No one messes with her. I mean, look, she has
Speaker 2: a lot of.
Speaker 11: Enemies because she's dealing with this behemoth, the Department of Education.
Speaker 11: A lot of people are having layoffs, and you had
Speaker 11: the teachers Unions, one of the most influential political forces
Speaker 11: in this country, which, by the way, we need to
Speaker 11: revoke the NEA's federal charter. But Lynda McMahon can just
Speaker 11: you know, she has that poker face. The media can't
Speaker 11: get to her, the teachers unions can't get to her.
Speaker 11: And that's what we needed. We needed someone who could
Speaker 11: stand strong and fight for what's right and to fulfill
Speaker 11: Trump's campaign promise to take steps to dismantle the department.
Speaker 1: She's tough as nails, and so is Corey DeAngelis. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for coming on in the program and keeping
Speaker 1: us all today.
Speaker 11: Yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Matting up in Syria, there is currently rising violence. Israel
Speaker 1: is attacking Damascus. Drew's are fleeing, and Pearson Sharp is
Speaker 1: here next to tell us what it all means for
Speaker 1: the United States, Europe and security in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Violence is rising in Syria. I know you're shocked.
Speaker 1: Sectarian fighting erupted in southern syrias Drew's majority Swei region
Speaker 1: between Drew's militias and Sunni Bedouin tribes. Syrian government forces intervened,
Speaker 1: but the situation spiraled into heavy combat. This conflict very
Speaker 1: quickly became one of the most fierce challenges to the
Speaker 1: new Damascus government since the fall of Asad. In this
Speaker 1: particular battle, three to four hundred people were confirmed dead
Speaker 1: and included combatants and civilians. A ceasefire was brokeren involving
Speaker 1: the Drews, the Syrian government, and international mediators. The Syrian
Speaker 1: President Ahadshaarra announced that government forces began withdrawing from Sweda,
Speaker 1: handing security control to Drews leaders and local militias under
Speaker 1: the agreement. The Israeli military conducted airstrikes in Damascus, targeting
Speaker 1: the Defense Ministry and the presidential Palace. The support that
Speaker 1: they've given the Drews groups has been very significant, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to deter Syrian government forces. These strikes killed
Speaker 1: at least five Syrian security personnel. They wounded others, but
Speaker 1: it's clearly heightening tensions when you're landing weaponry near the
Speaker 1: presidential palace. Syria's transitional government is struggling to assert any
Speaker 1: authority outside of Damascus. Israel's strikes, though aimed at protecting
Speaker 1: Drews communities, risk a broader escalating conflict. Israel also facilitated
Speaker 1: the fleeing of the Drews into their territory. I've long
Speaker 1: argued that the United States has no business with troops
Speaker 1: in Syria. I lost the vote on this key legislation
Speaker 1: to remove troops from the country.
Speaker 2: But I do think we won the evade.
Speaker 1: Most Americans don't know a single Syrian, and so people
Speaker 1: watching this debate might wonder, how has it come to
Speaker 1: be that Syria has become the.
Speaker 2: Great platform of great power?
Speaker 1: Competition in the world begins in twenty eleven during the
Speaker 1: Arab Spring, when Assad, who is undeniably a madman and
Speaker 1: a despot, opens fire on his own people protesting. Then
Speaker 1: part of the Syrian army defects. They engage in warfare
Speaker 1: against Assad, and all of a sudden, they got a
Speaker 1: whole lot of weapons and money being sent from the
Speaker 1: rich golf monarchies through Jordan into Syria. So Iran's not
Speaker 1: just going to watch this. Assad's their ally. They activate Hezbolah.
Speaker 1: They then invade Syria. So now you've got Jordan, the
Speaker 1: golf monarchies, Iran. But wait, Russia is pitching their vision
Speaker 1: of the world as a regime preservation force, whether you're
Speaker 1: Maduro or Assad, so they get involved in what they
Speaker 1: get for their time, a warm water port in the
Speaker 1: eastern Mediterranean.
Speaker 2: So we've got Russia, the Gulf monarchies.
Speaker 1: Israel starts to get worried about Hesbala and Iran. So
Speaker 1: Israel cuts a deal with Russia to keep Iran out
Speaker 1: of southern Syria. And if it doesn't get any worse
Speaker 1: than that, now, all of a sudden, you've got the
Speaker 1: Kurds who declare war on Syria.
Speaker 2: And it makes it a little messy that the Kurds.
Speaker 1: Are also in conflict with Turkey, which is a NATO ally.
Speaker 1: And then somehow the United States in twenty fifteen says,
Speaker 1: you know what, we need to get involved in this
Speaker 1: mess in Syria. And since we have been there, we
Speaker 1: have seen Americans die, we have seen tens of billions
Speaker 1: of dollars wasted. And what is hilarious about the two
Speaker 1: thousand and one AUMF that the neo conservatives wave around
Speaker 1: like some permission slip for every neo conservative fantasy of
Speaker 1: turning an Arabian desert into a Jeffersonian democracy, is that
Speaker 1: that very two thousand and one AUMF would justify attacking
Speaker 1: the people that we're fighting against and the people were funding,
Speaker 1: because both have ties to Al Keena, And of course
Speaker 1: the two thousand and one AOMF dealt with al Qaida.
Speaker 1: All this talk about a re emergency of ISIS. I
Speaker 1: would encourage my colleagues to go read the Inspector General's
Speaker 1: report of the last quarter that indicates that ISIS is
Speaker 1: not a threat to the homeland. And with the Turks
Speaker 1: conducting operations in Syria against ISIS, with Assad and Russia
Speaker 1: having every incentive to create pressure on ISIS, I do
Speaker 1: not believe that what stands between a caliphate and not
Speaker 1: a caliphate are the nine hundred Americans who have been
Speaker 1: sent to this health escape with no definition of victory,
Speaker 1: with no clear objective, and purely existing as a vestige
Speaker 1: to the regime change, failed foreign policies of multiple former presidents.
Speaker 1: So is Syria about to enter another civil war driven
Speaker 1: by sectarian violence? What would that mean for migrants throughout Europe,
Speaker 1: for Israel, and.
Speaker 2: Even for the United States?
Speaker 1: Joining me now in studio is host of Oen's the
Speaker 1: Sharp reportes terrific investigative reporter and knows a lot about
Speaker 1: having been there. So as I was seeing the Israeli attacks,
Speaker 1: as I was seeing the government in Syria barely hold
Speaker 1: together in this conflict with the Drews and others, I
Speaker 1: was wondering your perspective. You've spent time in the country.
Speaker 1: What chapter of the book are we in in Syria
Speaker 1: right now?
Speaker 2: Pearson Charleppe.
Speaker 10: It's not a good one.
Speaker 12: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 13: Cliff Notes, it's not a good one. This is nothing new.
Speaker 13: The president al Jelani, that's his jihadis name. I'm gonna
Speaker 13: stick with that because he is a terrorist. He's been
Speaker 13: ethnic cleansing people since he took office. They've killed tens
Speaker 13: of thousands of ethnic minorities so far, the drus, the Alawhites,
Speaker 13: Christians brutally slaughtered. Maybe I can give your team some
Speaker 13: video to put up because this is absolutely horrendous and
Speaker 13: it's NonStop. This isn't some misunderstood freedom fighter. He's a terrorist.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 13: He started out in al Qaida, he helped found Alnos
Speaker 13: for affront in Syria. You'll remember back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 13: Trump's first administration put him on a terrorist watch list
Speaker 13: and put a ten million dollar bounty on his head.
Speaker 2: Did or alive or did he have to be returned
Speaker 2: in any particular condition?
Speaker 13: I think as long as he was gone, that was
Speaker 13: what was satisfying the cause.
Speaker 2: Well, what do we make of that assent?
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 2: Here's my perception.
Speaker 1: I'll allow you to disagree if like Iran had so
Speaker 1: much going on with their support of the.
Speaker 2: Huthis and with what they were doing.
Speaker 1: With Hesbolah and Hamas, that they weren't there to fight
Speaker 1: every battle anymore for the Assad regime. And Russia had
Speaker 1: provided a lot of muscle for the Assad regime, They're
Speaker 1: bogged down in Ukraine and thus there wasn't really anyone
Speaker 1: to protect Assad from his own people. Is that how
Speaker 1: you see that transition of power occurring?
Speaker 13: Not necessarily, I mean, I definitely played a role in it.
Speaker 13: But Asad had a lot more support with the people
Speaker 13: than al Jilani does. Asad was kind of known as
Speaker 13: the protector of the Christians. He was allo white, he
Speaker 13: was a minority. He wasn't great. He was definitely not
Speaker 13: a good guy. He put a lot of people in prison,
Speaker 13: did a lot of torturing. Not a good guy, but
Speaker 13: way better that are way more stable than the current
Speaker 13: terrorist regime, which by the way, we helped set up.
Speaker 13: I mean, this dates back to Obama's regime. Like this
Speaker 13: was a guy who was installed by the CIA, by
Speaker 13: the Pentagon. His group was organized, you know, his isis
Speaker 13: we put this together timber Sycamore the operation from the
Speaker 13: CIA where we funded billions of dollars these terrorist groups.
Speaker 2: You look at.
Speaker 13: Maps, satellite maps from the time period, it just a
Speaker 13: couple of years ago, and you have US Special Forces
Speaker 13: camps right next to terrorist training centers. Isis this is
Speaker 13: happening in Syria, So we facilitated this. Now, what's been
Speaker 13: going on right now with the DRUS goes back a
Speaker 13: couple of months. It started with some leaked audio This
Speaker 13: is back in May, where someone was cursing Muhammad and
Speaker 13: the Sun he's there.
Speaker 2: The terrorists in charge decided that it.
Speaker 13: Was the Drews who were doing that, and so they
Speaker 13: went after a bunch of university students started attacking them.
Speaker 13: These universities students fled down to Sweda and they thought
Speaker 13: they were safe there, but the government started sending troops
Speaker 13: down there to fight them, and they came to kind
Speaker 13: of an agreement where the security forces down in Sweda,
Speaker 13: the police and the security they would be run by
Speaker 13: the local people in Sueda. Al Jilani said, no deal.
Speaker 13: I want to be running this entire country. I want
Speaker 13: the entire area should be run by the Sunnies. So
Speaker 13: he sent the government forces down there and started slaughtering people.
Speaker 13: That's kind of where we're at today, and Israel has
Speaker 13: a problem with that because there's a lot of drus
Speaker 13: in Israel, especially in the IDF.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of pilots who were drews, and
Speaker 2: so they said no dice.
Speaker 13: Of course, Sweda is also strategically right next to Israel
Speaker 13: and the goal on heights and stuff, so that kind
Speaker 13: of makes them nervous when you have a bunch of
Speaker 13: big military forces rolling down there.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to put the kibosh on that.
Speaker 13: They told the Syrian government the terrorists to knock it off,
Speaker 13: and Syria basically said, come at me bro So Israel did.
Speaker 1: Do you think We're in an escalatory period right now?
Speaker 1: War between Israel and Syria might be getting more and.
Speaker 2: More likely by the moment. I don't know by the moment,
Speaker 2: but it's definitely escalating the Syrian regime right now.
Speaker 13: The terrorists in charge they want a unified Syrian state
Speaker 13: where it's all run by the Sunnis. Israel obviously does
Speaker 13: not want that. That would be bad for everybody in
Speaker 13: the region, and so they've got to do what they
Speaker 13: can to stop that. Protecting the Druids in this case,
Speaker 13: is you know, a benefit of that.
Speaker 1: What does it say to you that the current government
Speaker 1: of Syria is contracting in the area that they're controlling.
Speaker 1: Does it suggest that this really isn't a country, that
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of tribes, and that unifying it under well,
Speaker 1: now certainly not asad but even under the current leader
Speaker 1: is impractical.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I would agree with that Al Jilani fails to
Speaker 13: grasp what Bashar al Assad did that Syria has just
Speaker 13: this amazing mix of different culture and religions and beliefs
Speaker 13: and peoples that go back thousands of years and for
Speaker 13: the most part they've been coexisting fairly, okay up until
Speaker 13: recently the last twenty years, fifteen twenty years, and he
Speaker 13: was managing that the friend of the Christians, This guy
Speaker 13: al Jilani, one doesn't get that as a leader, and
Speaker 13: two he doesn't care.
Speaker 2: He's a terrorist. He wants the Sonis to take over.
Speaker 13: So his primary objective right now is to eliminate all
Speaker 13: opposition and that's what he's doing. So, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 13: have a lot of chaos until he's out of the picture.
Speaker 1: I think that Saudi Arabia plays a role here as well,
Speaker 1: you saw a crown Prince Muhammad bin Solman really work
Speaker 1: the Trump administration to get sanctions relief for his fellow
Speaker 1: Sunni who is in charge of Syria right now. I
Speaker 1: think they view it as a big coup that Damascus
Speaker 1: faces more toward Riod today. It faced more toward Tehran
Speaker 1: under Assad, and they better understand that this type of
Speaker 1: violence is bad for business. That if Saudi Arabia is
Speaker 1: really providing the political support, the economic support, the trading
Speaker 1: support for this regime, that they can't just be global
Speaker 1: players in the West while hundreds of folks are getting killed.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I would agree with that. And Saudi Arabia is
Speaker 13: a major exporter of terrorism around the world. They're setting
Speaker 13: up these Sunni schools all over Europe, over the Middle
Speaker 13: East like they are trying to export this as fast
Speaker 13: as they can. I think what we can see in
Speaker 13: Syria going forward is the Bedouins, who are Sunni by
Speaker 13: the way, are going to be running down into Suweeda
Speaker 13: to try and help consolidate that area. And I think
Speaker 13: they hope that they can give it back to HTS,
Speaker 13: they can give it back to Hyatta Alatara Sharram. But
Speaker 13: I don't think that's going to happen with Israel intervening,
Speaker 13: and if that escalates to a ground war, that's a possibility.
Speaker 2: And it sounds like you think Israel's justified in their
Speaker 2: actions at this point.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well.
Speaker 13: It's a tough it's a double edged sword. I don't
Speaker 13: think there should be intervention there. But Syria is not
Speaker 13: a real country right now. I mean, they're being run
Speaker 13: by terrorists. Something has to break that up.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but what that looks like,
Speaker 1: it just sounds like right now, what's breaking that up
Speaker 1: is the natural sectarian the h of all these different
Speaker 1: Syria and everyone who goes to Syria loses.
Speaker 2: As you pointed out.
Speaker 1: When we went there, we had CIA funded forces against
Speaker 1: Pentagon funded forces. When Russia went to Syria, they ultimately
Speaker 1: had to abandon their investment there.
Speaker 2: When Iran went there, their proxies became you can't you
Speaker 2: can't manage it.
Speaker 13: So, I mean that was incredibly short sighted for us
Speaker 13: to help overthrow Asad.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anyone would suggest that Syria
Speaker 1: is a markedly better place today.
Speaker 13: No, absolutely not, especially not the thousands of Christians and
Speaker 13: others who have been slaughtered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pierson Sharp, host of Owen's The Sharp Report. Thanks
Speaker 1: is always for.
Speaker 2: Coming on and sharing your expertise. I love talking about
Speaker 2: the Middle East with you and Global Fair always interested.
Speaker 2: You are a man of the world.
Speaker 1: And coming up, we've got important perspective from Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: where there's a movement to suggest that they don't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the United States anymore.
Speaker 2: How would that work? Javier Hernandez is here to explain.
Speaker 12: Next.
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Speaker 2: What's going on in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: If you're familiar with Puerto Rico, you probably know it
Speaker 1: as a safe haven for billionaires who want to avoid
Speaker 1: taxes or you've seen it on TV following disasters created
Speaker 1: by both God and man. Maybe you remember that before
Speaker 1: Ashley Babbitt, the last time a gun was fired in
Speaker 1: the US Capitol, it was back in nineteen fifty four
Speaker 1: when Puerto Rican separatists shot into the well.
Speaker 2: Of the floor of Congress. There's a bullet hole.
Speaker 1: Still in the Republican leader's desk today, I always show
Speaker 1: it to be Blonde tours. So is there still a
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican separatist movement? Actually, there is a majority of
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican's per first statehood, roughly sixty percent, while about
Speaker 1: twelve percent support total independence, according to a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four poll. Despite this disparity, one man, Javier Hernandez, is
Speaker 1: leading a movement called Prexit, which would give Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: the autonomy of an independent nation. Hernandez cites the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen protests that saw roughly a third of the territory's
Speaker 1: population forcing out the governor, Ricardo Rossello after leaked telegram
Speaker 1: chats exposed his administration's extensive corruption. Protests erupted in July,
Speaker 1: lasting about two straight weeks, which in the heat of
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico is a lot over eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: nine pages of texts showed Governor Rossello and his cronies
Speaker 1: mocking Hurricane Maria victims and awarding shady contracts. The chats
Speaker 1: led to multiple indictments of Puerto Rican officials. They let
Speaker 1: a fuse, uniting everyone from Reggaeton, Star Bad Bunny to
Speaker 1: working class bikers in certain political show of force. Rossello
Speaker 1: resigned on July twenty fourth, the first Puerto Rican governor
Speaker 1: ousted by protest Wanda Vasquez replaced him. She later faced
Speaker 1: bribery charges of her own. Javier Hernandez is the author
Speaker 1: of Prexit. He argues that Puerto Rico's hunger for self
Speaker 1: rule is unsatiated.
Speaker 2: We aren't so sure that that's what the facts really illuminate.
Speaker 1: Javier Hernandez is the author of PREXIT, forging Puerto Rico's
Speaker 1: path to sovereignty. So Xavier explain to us, why is
Speaker 1: sovereignty the preferred the preferred path from your perspective.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you for inviting me to the show. Well,
Speaker 12: sovereignty is gaining more ground. It used to be a
Speaker 12: very minority position, but now we have up to forty
Speaker 12: three percent from the last plebiscite, and it's been a
Speaker 12: lot of suffering, a lot of economic collapse, suffering, losing jobs,
Speaker 12: no economic prosperity at all, and more people, especially younger
Speaker 12: and more professional Puerto Ricans, are opting to try and
Speaker 12: support sovereignty because sighood and commonwealth have not worked at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe that's just because you keep electing bad people.
Speaker 1: How does sovereignty help you with that?
Speaker 12: That's a very very very good situation. Yeah, I believe
Speaker 12: that there is a lot of Alex Rold fraud in
Speaker 12: Puerto Rico, and that's a whole other segment that could
Speaker 12: be done on that. So even though they win, we
Speaker 12: have showing, you know, data that we could have won
Speaker 12: if dead people and prisoners weren't allowed to vote.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, now you got to carry the cemetery precincts
Speaker 1: and yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: But but like, how does sovereignty liberate you from that?
Speaker 1: How would you be worried that a sovereign country might
Speaker 1: fall victim to some of the same things that have
Speaker 1: crippled Puerto Rico's success recently?
Speaker 12: Well, right now, for example, let's just take corruption, the
Speaker 12: prone dependence parties and other parties have you know, gone
Speaker 12: to our legislature and proposed so many anti corruption measures,
Speaker 12: but the pro Statehood Party and the Commonwealth already always
Speaker 12: you know, don't support them, and they never catch on
Speaker 12: or they're never approved. So there are things we can
Speaker 12: do to stop corruption, it's just the parties that are
Speaker 12: corrupt don't want that to happen.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the resources in Puerto Rico are
Speaker 1: there because highly rich people go to Puerto Rico to
Speaker 1: avoid paying federal income taxes. Would there be an income
Speaker 1: tax in the sovereign Puerto Rico you envision?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we would have a totally new national
Speaker 12: tax system, fair, you know, one that isn't like biased
Speaker 12: on foreigners coming in. You know, it'd be fair for everyone.
Speaker 12: But that that's something that the sovereign Republic would have
Speaker 12: to deal with.
Speaker 2: And would the sovereign Republic join NATO.
Speaker 12: That's a good question. I think if that's the path
Speaker 12: the Sovereign Republic of Putico would like, they would first
Speaker 12: have to become I think some kind of I think
Speaker 12: there's a position or some kind of a name there,
Speaker 12: like a non NATO ally or something like that that
Speaker 12: in order to do that.
Speaker 1: What a shame liberate yourself from colonial rule by the
Speaker 1: United States and then sign up for global rule from NATO.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be something.
Speaker 12: That's why I'm saying that's how we could happen. I
Speaker 12: don't think it would happen, so I wouldn't support that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a children's book out that also seeks
Speaker 1: to engage young people on this question. I'm interested mostly
Speaker 1: about how you view young people as a vector into
Speaker 1: these type of political questions.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you, that's a really thank you for starting
Speaker 12: the book. Yeah, the future generations of Puerto Rico, I mean,
Speaker 12: they're the ones who are really waking up and aren't
Speaker 12: falling victim to the old narratives, colonial narratives that you know,
Speaker 12: we can't survive without the US, we would dive hunger,
Speaker 12: those type of narratives that usually affects older people. Younger
Speaker 12: people aren't falling for that anymore. And this book shows,
Speaker 12: you know, basically Puerto Rico's history. It's really aimed for
Speaker 12: like middle school to high school students, but literally anyone
Speaker 12: could learn from this book. It shows parts of history
Speaker 12: in Puerto Rico that the colonial school system do not show.
Speaker 12: They don't mention, they don't talk about it because it's embarrassing.
Speaker 12: They don't want to talk about, you know, massacres and
Speaker 12: people disappearing and stuff things like that.
Speaker 2: So massacres of.
Speaker 1: People's disappearing sound like great subjects for a children's book.
Speaker 12: Hey, if it's part of your history, children should know
Speaker 12: about that.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm here for the truth, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: not entirely sure that sovereignty leads to better outcomes and
Speaker 1: better quality of life. I think ultimately you need better leaders,
Speaker 1: and I think that your efforts around election integrity would
Speaker 1: probably do a lot to give the island the type
Speaker 1: of political structure that the wonderful people there so richly deserve.
Speaker 1: Javier Hernandez, thank you for your contribution to the discussion
Speaker 1: and hope to chat with you again soon.
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Con thank you, And coming up.
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Speaker 15: So, mister Howell, I have a couple of questions for you,
Speaker 15: very straightforward, Yes or no? Do you support this type
Speaker 15: of treatment of human beings?
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, I wasn't listening. All the other Democrats haven't
Speaker 14: asked a question, so I kind of wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 14: Can you restate it?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 15: The detention center facility conditions in this country are atrocious.
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Speaker 15: acceptable treatment of human beings by the United States of
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Speaker 14: Legal alience to be detained throughout their immigration proceedings.
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Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 15: On top that seventeen million Americans were just cut off
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Speaker 14: As we've written extensively the Oversight Project, because we're trying
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Speaker 6: It is.
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Speaker 14: Site to end up with more Democrats clogging or jail.
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Speaker 9: Jail claiming my time.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 15: It is actually legal for members of Congress to go
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Speaker 15: and to conduct oversight that actually is legally allowed.
Speaker 10: That is incorrect.
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