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Speaker 2: So we talked to you what two months ago? Maybe
Speaker 2: months ago? Anything changed?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's a big game for both teams.
Speaker 4: What are the concerns about Kansas City from your or
Speaker 4: just thoughts and impressions?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think that.
Speaker 5: I think that after the Tilanan game last week, Chris
Speaker 5: Clemban brought something up that I think is kind of
Speaker 5: gets kind of the core of of maybe where KSE
Speaker 5: State fans are right now is that they're still trying
Speaker 5: to find an identity for this team. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 5: Avery Johnson got some some run last year. He obviously
Speaker 5: won the Bowl Game, but it's still is you know,
Speaker 5: he's still kind of working to kind of find what
Speaker 5: his identity is as the guy for k State. And
Speaker 5: so while you know, the run game has been there
Speaker 5: for KSE State and it's been, you know, very steady.
Speaker 2: DJ Giddens has been.
Speaker 5: Exactly what what we thought he would be, just an
Speaker 5: absolute stud, and Dylan Edwards in his spots has been good.
Speaker 5: The passing game is still taking a little while to
Speaker 5: kind of get up and running. The offensive line is
Speaker 5: still kind of working to kind of gel with with
Speaker 5: some newer pieces and everything after losing quite a few
Speaker 5: seniors last year. Defensively, the pass rush has been phenomenal.
Speaker 5: I think that for the most part, linebacker play has
Speaker 5: been good. I think that people felt a lot better
Speaker 5: about the secondary before the Tulane game. I think that
Speaker 5: kind of made people a little nervous heading into especially
Speaker 5: heading into Friday's game, with with the combo that that
Speaker 5: Arizona brings in. But overall, I think it's still very
Speaker 5: much in kind of a wait and see kind of
Speaker 5: kind of see, we'll see what happens here over the
Speaker 5: next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: We know, I mean, Tulane is a good is a
Speaker 3: good program. The group of five, so they're automatically.
Speaker 6: You know, they're they're they're what's the right word, they're
Speaker 6: categorized or classified the Okay, your group of five, you
Speaker 6: shouldn't be able to be be eating us by ten
Speaker 6: points in the you know, in the game, and then
Speaker 6: they were.
Speaker 3: Kansas State comes back wins the game. Were people unhappy
Speaker 3: with the win because I know that fans here in
Speaker 3: Tucson were very unhappy with the win over ANAU because
Speaker 3: they felt they should have blown an Au out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 5: I think it's just kind of the things that they
Speaker 5: saw in the win that have people a little nervous
Speaker 5: because I think that everyone you know, you said a
Speaker 5: case they fan down, they'll agree with you that, you know,
Speaker 5: Tillian's a good team, that they're probably one of the
Speaker 5: leaders to kind of compete for that that group of
Speaker 5: five playoff spot for sure, right, But there were just
Speaker 5: you know, the secondary playing as poorly as they did
Speaker 5: was kind of a red flag. You know, the pass
Speaker 5: game a kind of taking an entire half to get
Speaker 5: going and still not kind of getting to the level
Speaker 5: that maybe people thought. You know, there were some play
Speaker 5: calling they you know, Case State's working in a new
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, it's only he's only three games in so
Speaker 5: far as far as playing games game, so it's just
Speaker 5: you know, you're you're happy to get to win, especially
Speaker 5: on the road. There were some circumstances with officiating that
Speaker 5: I think if you'd have some Tulane fans, they feel
Speaker 5: like maybe the game was handed to Kay State. I
Speaker 5: believe that that was an offensive death interference. I just
Speaker 5: don't believe that it. It's called nearly enough for the
Speaker 5: average fan to uh, you know, to recognize it, right,
Speaker 5: But I just think that maybe even though Tulane is
Speaker 5: a good team, people thought that maybe a case State
Speaker 5: would be starting off at a higher level, and it's
Speaker 5: maybe taking a little while to get to where fans
Speaker 5: thought that they would be to start the season. Whether
Speaker 5: that's fair or not.
Speaker 4: So I read somewhere maybe even on your in your
Speaker 4: column earlier this week, the front, uh the offensive line,
Speaker 4: are they banged up like Arizona's.
Speaker 2: What's the situation there? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we we got to talk to him
Speaker 5: coordinators because of kind of a speed sped up week.
Speaker 5: We got to talk to coordinators yesterday. Normally we talked
Speaker 5: him on Thursday.
Speaker 2: Or two of them.
Speaker 5: The more veteran offensive lineman or the right tackle Carver Willis,
Speaker 5: and then the left guard Hapley Panser, both left early
Speaker 5: from the two lang game. The right tackle, Carver Willis,
Speaker 5: came back, Panzer did not return. He's kind of if
Speaker 5: you were to kind of pick who, well, who's your
Speaker 5: best offensive lineman, it did probably would be him. But
Speaker 5: when we talked to offensive coordinator Hunter Riiley yesterday, he
Speaker 5: said that that that willis for the most part, it's
Speaker 5: fully back in practice, but but Panser is not. They
Speaker 5: have some depth there that they like. They had the
Speaker 5: guys that came in, Andrew lin Ging and John past
Speaker 5: Story did well and then the coaches were kind of pleased.
Speaker 5: But it's just kind of one of those things where
Speaker 5: you know, when you're trying to gel with a new
Speaker 5: group and then you start losing guys, it's not exactly
Speaker 5: what you want.
Speaker 2: But this is not the first time that.
Speaker 5: Since Chris Climb has been in a case state of
Speaker 5: the offensive line has started maybe a little slower than
Speaker 5: fans would life or than coaches with life. But Connor
Speaker 5: Riley's a great offensive line coach and he always seems
Speaker 5: to kind of get them up to the level that
Speaker 5: they need to be by by mid season. So I
Speaker 5: think it's more of a wait and see thing. I
Speaker 5: expect Carver Willis to be back. Hadley Panzer, we do
Speaker 5: not know if he will be back out there.
Speaker 3: Tell us about Chris Climbing what what you know? We
Speaker 3: don't know about him here in Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 2: You know what is he? Who is he? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: mean he.
Speaker 5: It's I I've heard it said by by some other people,
Speaker 5: just kind of national people away from the program that
Speaker 5: he is what what kind of Bill Snyder left and
Speaker 5: kind of the way that he handled things can very
Speaker 5: even peel, very you know, not flashy, you know, very
Speaker 5: blue collar. He kind of brought that from from Fargo,
Speaker 5: from his days in North Dakota State, but updated in
Speaker 5: some ways that I especially in in UH coach Snyder's
Speaker 5: later years, he kind of was was kind of more
Speaker 5: stubborn and and kind of refused to kind of accept
Speaker 5: some of the newer things, some of the more player
Speaker 5: empowerment type things, other other stuff. But very calm guy,
Speaker 5: very process oriented. Uh you know, he's very well. One
Speaker 5: of the first videos that they have led the department
Speaker 5: put out whenever he was hired six years ago. Now,
Speaker 5: Noll was just talking about winning, winning the dang day.
Speaker 5: I mean, that was that was the thing for a while.
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of died down now, but very much
Speaker 5: just like do your job and everything else will follow.
Speaker 5: And then that's what Case State fans were used to from,
Speaker 5: you know, from Bill Snyder. They didn't want to a
Speaker 5: Dion Sanders type. They didn't want someone to come in
Speaker 5: and completely flip the script of what Case State football was.
Speaker 5: They had that briefly when Bill Snyder first retired and
Speaker 5: Ron Prince took over, and that did not go work
Speaker 5: well at all. He was out after three years. So
Speaker 5: someone who was able to kind of carry on that
Speaker 5: legacy in that foundation that was set, but be able
Speaker 5: to kind of iterate on it a little bit and
Speaker 5: modernize it without losing what what kind of made it special.
Speaker 4: I'm sure without going into coach speak or whatever they'll
Speaker 4: be doing, because both sides do it right. What are
Speaker 4: their thoughts on Arizona? Because Jay, it was Jay We've
Speaker 4: been talking on the show for the last couple of days.
Speaker 4: Arizona has looked unimpressive. But the probably maybe the Heald
Speaker 4: stuff back of what's to talk over there about Arizona.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that coaches, you know, they I think
Speaker 5: they understand that they you know, what what they have,
Speaker 5: what what Arizona is able to do offensively if they
Speaker 5: let them, is they you know, they if you let them,
Speaker 5: they can be the most dangerous offense in the country
Speaker 5: with with with with with teammage and frafita.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's been very very respectful.
Speaker 5: I mean it's just been this is, Hey, this is
Speaker 5: going to be one of the best teams we play
Speaker 5: all year, and we're going to you know, they're they're
Speaker 5: I don't think much stock was taken into, you know,
Speaker 5: the defensive struggles against New Mexico or the all struggles
Speaker 5: versus a A. I think that it's just very much
Speaker 5: uh see that like they're going to come in at
Speaker 5: their best. You know, this is the first even though
Speaker 5: it's not a conference game, it's the first Big Twelve
Speaker 5: game for for Arizona. They're going to be jack to
Speaker 5: be there. There's just and I think they're just there's
Speaker 5: just no reason not to expect them to be top
Speaker 5: top level in the Big Twelve. And so I think
Speaker 5: that's been that that's been what coaches have been hammering about.
Speaker 5: It's like this is this is We're about to get
Speaker 5: one of the best.
Speaker 4: We're talking to Tim Everson from the Manhattan Mercury Jay Jay.
Speaker 4: Tim just said something that they feel that this is
Speaker 4: going to be one of their bigger Big twelve teams.
Speaker 4: We said the same thing this week and two weeks
Speaker 4: from now with Utah, and then it seems like it'll
Speaker 4: get easier.
Speaker 2: Well it the schedule, Yes, it up.
Speaker 3: It feels like it eases up because there's no Oklahoma State,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it, but and okay, recognizing this
Speaker 3: is a non conference game, but it's still a game
Speaker 3: where we hear in Tucson. I feel like this is
Speaker 3: going to be a big gauge of what this team
Speaker 3: really is because we don't think we've seen it really
Speaker 3: in the first two games. I like the fact that
Speaker 3: you know, over there, you feel like they're discounting the
Speaker 3: fact that Arizona only beat an Au twenty two to
Speaker 3: ten and still are expecting a really good team to
Speaker 3: show up on the field. I think Arizona fans are
Speaker 3: expecting a really crappy team to show up on the
Speaker 3: field in a lot of ways because that game didn't
Speaker 3: go the way they wanted it to go, even though
Speaker 3: it was a win.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I think K State Vans are in a very
Speaker 5: similar about where they're just you know, they see a
Speaker 5: red shirt freshman Tulane quarterback and Darian Mensa, who's what
Speaker 5: we with a study's going to be. I mean, he's
Speaker 5: been a revelation right for them, and I'll be shocked
Speaker 5: if he is it may still be in Louisiana next year,
Speaker 5: but I'll be shocked if he's still in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: You know, they see him just absolutely torch what we
Speaker 5: had been told and what we kind of expected to
Speaker 5: be a strength for for case stated. And then their
Speaker 5: secondary of you know, very deep uh safety room, and
Speaker 5: then very veteran corners, guys that have been starting for
Speaker 5: multiple years, and uh you know see that. And then
Speaker 5: obviously the spotlight was on you guys when when mc
Speaker 5: millan had his you know what, I don't know, four touchdowns, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean you know, the story rights itself and in
Speaker 5: your head of what kind of a nightmare, uh it
Speaker 5: could be if things do not improve in some way.
Speaker 5: Now obviously you know fans will overreact or whatever, but
Speaker 5: I mean it's still an easy an easy bad picture
Speaker 5: to draw yourself if if you, uh, if you, if
Speaker 5: you let it.
Speaker 4: So, So, what can this team expect from the home crowd,
Speaker 4: because we hear big twelve football is legit.
Speaker 2: It's different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different than the past twelve. They're not by
Speaker 4: the beach and a, I mean the tailgate. What's the
Speaker 4: what are they gonna see over there?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean I hope that we get a strong contingent
Speaker 5: from Arizona just because it's fun. Uh, it's fun when
Speaker 5: other people get to come and see what the scene
Speaker 5: is around. Bill Schnyder filmily stating because it's big tailgating,
Speaker 5: I mean there's big, two huge lots on both sides
Speaker 5: of the stadium that's gonna be packed.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be people.
Speaker 5: People will be getting here, you know, if not tonight,
Speaker 5: they've gotten here earlier today already to prepare for tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, it's gonna be sold out,
Speaker 5: it's gonna be loud, it's uh, you know it is.
Speaker 5: It is sneakily and I you know, it's doesn't mean
Speaker 5: a lot coming from me because I'm someone who went
Speaker 5: to K State and I cover a state. But I mean,
Speaker 5: I've been around a little bit. It's is sneakily one
Speaker 5: of the better environments that you'll see. I know that.
Speaker 2: About a decade ago. And this is actually the last
Speaker 2: Top twenty.
Speaker 5: Matchup at Bill Snyder Family Stadium. Weirdly, in no case,
Speaker 5: they've had some good teams and there have been good
Speaker 5: teams in in the Big twelve. Auburn came to Manhattan
Speaker 5: and their fans were very complimentary of the atmosphere, and obviously,
Speaker 5: you know, they see some of the best atmospheres in
Speaker 5: the country weekend and week out. So it's it's fun
Speaker 5: at the same time, while it is kind of a
Speaker 5: threatening atmosphere, it's not. It's very friendly. People will be
Speaker 5: very nice to you individually. It's not like, I don't know,
Speaker 5: it's not like going to Boulder or wherever, or things
Speaker 5: are maybe a.
Speaker 2: Little a little spice here. It's not the nicest reception.
Speaker 3: Does the Friday night add to the atmosphere, you know
Speaker 3: it it's kind of been the times that Arizona's had
Speaker 3: a home game on a weeknight. Some have been great
Speaker 3: that you know, Oregon came into town, you know, number
Speaker 3: ranked number two on a Thursday night on ESPN, the
Speaker 3: crowd was went crazy and airs on An upset them.
Speaker 3: But there have been some other ones where it's kind
Speaker 3: of like it kind of falls flat. What do you
Speaker 3: expect for a Friday night game there in Manhattan.
Speaker 5: I think that it'll it should be electric. It should
Speaker 5: be I think that while I don't think it's anyone's
Speaker 5: preference that uh, that it's on a Friday, especially with
Speaker 5: you know, high school football and the state of Kansas.
Speaker 5: It's not you know, it's not one of the big states.
Speaker 5: But it's still a big deal here. I know that.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm once I get off some of you guys,
Speaker 5: I'm going to head end to go help with our
Speaker 5: coverage of Manhattani football because they move They're game back
Speaker 5: a day because of this game.
Speaker 2: But it's it's gonna be big.
Speaker 5: I mean people, you know, it's it's it's a deal
Speaker 5: where people have known about it for a while. People
Speaker 5: have I'm sure, called off work to make the trip.
Speaker 5: If they're coming from far over in in western Kansas,
Speaker 5: or you know, they're they're calling it a day at noon,
Speaker 5: if they're driving in from from which Chi or Kansas City,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's gonna be it's gonna be let I
Speaker 5: think that people know, you know, Case State doesn't get
Speaker 5: the national spotlight, you know, game on Fox very often,
Speaker 5: So I think that people people understand this is kind
Speaker 5: of a special a special circumstance and a special game.
Speaker 4: So real quick, we got about thirty seconds, Tim, do
Speaker 4: you make predictions for the game, and if you don't,
Speaker 4: we want you to. And just just because we got
Speaker 4: about just a few moments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's going to be good. I think
Speaker 5: it's going to be close early. I like I like
Speaker 5: KSE States advantage in the trenches especially. I think that
Speaker 5: the secondary is going to improve. I like KSE State
Speaker 5: thirty five.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, great, that's legit covering the seven. Thank you, Tim,
Speaker 2: appreciate you, Thank you, guys, appreciate it. We'll talk about it,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 4: Tim Everson from the Manhattan Mercury, if you want to
Speaker 4: get any updates on them on that team, go ahead
Speaker 4: and read him there.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, good stuff, he's already a friend of the show.
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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome to joining them ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 4: fourteen fifty times. Steve Rivera and Jagan's awesome rying with
Speaker 4: us today, maybe about thirteen minutes, maybe for the next
Speaker 4: seven show. If younger you were off the air, Jake,
Speaker 4: let's go back and maybe revisit a few things with
Speaker 4: the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: Sure, and just not a surprise, right.
Speaker 3: Well, I think all along we thought these were the teams.
Speaker 3: That's that, that Oregon State and Washington State we're gonna
Speaker 3: go after.
Speaker 2: I guess I did.
Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised that there aren't more, right that,
Speaker 3: because they have to get to eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they got and they're now at six. Right.
Speaker 4: I think in time, obviously that will happen. But the
Speaker 4: question is which who or the other two? Yeah, we
Speaker 4: said we threw out in Nevada, we threw out Vegas, right,
Speaker 4: and you're thinking, what.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the un l V is a state
Speaker 3: school and as is Nevada. Now, for the longest time,
Speaker 3: the two of them were not in the same league, right.
Speaker 3: Nevada joined the Mountain West later when the Mountain West expanded.
Speaker 3: But you wonder, is the Nevada legislature saying UNLV can't
Speaker 3: leave Nevada behind? So I don't know if that there's
Speaker 3: speculation that that might have happened, because the obvious one
Speaker 3: that should have been part of this.
Speaker 2: Group is u n l V.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the PAC twelfth thought about taking UNLV, right,
Speaker 3: So back when you know there was a you know,
Speaker 3: at that time, So it's a little surprising that UNLV
Speaker 3: isn't among this group or a less. The Pac twelve
Speaker 3: is saying, let's keep it an even number. So maybe
Speaker 3: UNLV's in the next round.
Speaker 2: If there's you know, they got to bring in at
Speaker 2: least two more preferably four.
Speaker 4: I think yeah, so the other ones that we talked about,
Speaker 4: because there are very few slim pickings in New Mexico, right, uh?
Speaker 4: And then you had who was the other one that
Speaker 4: you mentioned?
Speaker 2: I thought Utah State?
Speaker 3: Utah because they you know, they've been decent in football,
Speaker 3: they've been really good in basketball. You know, maybe that's
Speaker 3: a program that comes with from Utah has already gone. Right,
Speaker 3: Utah has already in the Big twelve, so uh, you know,
Speaker 3: there's nothing to hold to hold them back. But then
Speaker 3: a lot of discussion has been that they'll head they'll
Speaker 3: head east from here, maybe get a Texas school or
Speaker 3: two right a utsa, Uh, I don't know Texas State.
Speaker 3: Who's playing ASU tonight? Where's Texas?
Speaker 5: Ol?
Speaker 2: Pass was in the Mountain West already?
Speaker 3: Again, that uten football program hasn't very good and the
Speaker 3: basketball hasn't been very good either.
Speaker 2: For a while, that league is just watered down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, do you go do you head east
Speaker 3: to Tulane?
Speaker 2: Right? Do you go to South Florida?
Speaker 3: You know, somewhere in between one of the you know,
Speaker 3: Anappalachian state or you know who the hell knows? Right,
Speaker 3: you know, to go get I mean, look, we all
Speaker 3: know that geography doesn't even matter anymore, right, callan Stafford
Speaker 3: and the ACC.
Speaker 2: It's all you need to know. Yeah, no, it's it's
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4: I feel sorry for those who follow the Mountain West
Speaker 4: because now it's gonna be really watered down west.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't know. Did you ever meet
Speaker 3: Glorian Navarres when she was at the PAC twelve? No,
Speaker 3: she's she's the Mountain West commissioner.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: Really nice person.
Speaker 3: I met her and worked with her a bit when
Speaker 3: I was working those basketball China basketball games in China.
Speaker 3: Really nice person, you know, a person that you know
Speaker 3: she's making. She's a good commissioner. You know, I think
Speaker 3: she's a good but I know also that she was
Speaker 3: trying to put things in place to keep this from happening.
Speaker 2: They wanted to hold them mountain together. There's nothing that.
Speaker 3: They can do exactly right, and so now her league
Speaker 3: is being poached after you know, the Big twelve got poached,
Speaker 3: and now it's kind of like, what do you do now?
Speaker 3: So I you know, look, they'll they'll probably remain like
Speaker 3: a group of five league. They're just gonna lose, you know,
Speaker 3: some of their best teams. And that's just the way,
Speaker 3: that's just the way life is in the NCY Double A.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, no question, the giant eats the smaller, smaller
Speaker 4: teams and.
Speaker 2: They keep they keep gobbling them up like pac Man.
Speaker 4: Sure, and at the end of the day, in whatever
Speaker 4: years that we're gonna say, five, ten, whatever, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a big four for four conference division type of thing,
Speaker 4: right geographically, right at the end of the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, at some point, at some point, there's gonna
Speaker 3: be you know, four yeah, whether it's by geography or what,
Speaker 3: but it's gonna be four leagues all with about the
Speaker 3: same number of teams, and I'm all kind of on
Speaker 3: the same level, is what you would hope. Whether or
Speaker 3: not the Big ten and the SEC allowed that to
Speaker 3: happen remains to be said.
Speaker 4: Did you see there was a buy out seventeen million
Speaker 4: whatever it was.
Speaker 2: The Pac twelve has a ton of money.
Speaker 3: They got a ton of money because of what happened, Right,
Speaker 3: they got to keep all of the TV.
Speaker 2: Money for all the schools that left.
Speaker 3: Well, you see you by, they've got a mountain of money.
Speaker 2: They've got to help pay V facilities, help pay that
Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. Right.
Speaker 3: So I heard that the estimates are between one hundred
Speaker 3: million and two hundred million dollars in assets.
Speaker 2: You know that that that these two schools, two schools
Speaker 2: are in control of. Yeah, you know, so there's money
Speaker 2: to go around.
Speaker 3: They you know, that's why this is happening, because I
Speaker 3: think the Mountain West put a bunch of stuff in place,
Speaker 3: penalties in place for schools to leave, and they're just
Speaker 3: kind of saying, I got your penalties right here, we're.
Speaker 2: Out of here. We need money, but you need money,
Speaker 2: we'll just pay.
Speaker 3: We can get some money from those guys over there.
Speaker 3: And they're a lot prettier than you are. Remember Arizona left.
Speaker 3: We got their money, money exactly, we got we got
Speaker 3: everybody's money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I think that, you know, it's the
Speaker 3: thing a situation where you know, Bob's got all the
Speaker 3: money to go.
Speaker 4: Around thinking about it, Jay, when Arizona faces a PAC
Speaker 4: twelve team in two years, you're going to say, well,
Speaker 4: they put them out West.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, because whatever you whatever, you say,
Speaker 3: whatever you want to say.
Speaker 2: Exactly, they're not there.
Speaker 3: The PAC twelve is no longer a power five conference
Speaker 3: or a power conference. It's it's a group of five
Speaker 3: now coming out of the box. Will it be one
Speaker 3: of the better group of fives? You can argue because
Speaker 3: the Mountain West was right, yeah, you know, not West
Speaker 3: up there with uh yeah, so yeah, I think that, uh,
Speaker 3: that's how it'll be seen.
Speaker 2: But it's going to be a group of five. School Well,
Speaker 2: I guess they'll be a group of group a group
Speaker 2: of six.
Speaker 3: I guess right, there's a group of six and a
Speaker 3: power four now instead of a group of five and
Speaker 3: a power five.
Speaker 2: I can do that math, Steve good six minus one
Speaker 2: equals five six. You're right, new math or otherwise? Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, we didn't say who we have in the
Speaker 4: next hour. We'd have Jake, Yeah, the didn't have them
Speaker 4: last week. We will talked about his if he has.
Speaker 2: His impressions, those impressions, right, yeah, he's always he's always.
Speaker 3: You You need to you need to frame that question
Speaker 3: even handed, like this is a presidential debate. Okay, don't
Speaker 3: say what are your concerns? Say what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts? He may not stop me.
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't have concerns, and maybe he does.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah he's got Yeah, he's not going. He's always
Speaker 4: kind of like pro pro on the side of Arizona.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got concerns. I'm sure he does, as we
Speaker 2: all do. But the concerns to.
Speaker 3: Me, Steve, are it's more about their depth and their
Speaker 3: injuries and do they have do they have are they
Speaker 3: going to be able to put people in the right
Speaker 3: places to be successful offensively?
Speaker 4: So here's the here's the problem that just came up
Speaker 4: to me in my head. So they have the injuries
Speaker 4: you just talked about depth. We're two games in the
Speaker 4: survivor not survived this game physically. They take a week
Speaker 4: off and then they come back play Utah. A physical
Speaker 4: Utah team. Survive, have to survive physically, so every game,
Speaker 4: guess what they have to do. Survive physically? Yeah, and
Speaker 4: guess guess what happens in football? You rarely survived physically well.
Speaker 2: And and then again, though, Steve, how is that different
Speaker 2: from any other year. No, no, you're you're right right.
Speaker 4: But in some years, like last year, Arizona was able
Speaker 4: to because they were good.
Speaker 2: This year, we don't know.
Speaker 4: So if you're kind of even, like you said, depth
Speaker 4: and whatever, Yeah, if you don't have it and you
Speaker 4: get injured, what do you do.
Speaker 3: But even last year they had nine wins under their
Speaker 3: belt going into the Alemable they were nine and three,
Speaker 3: and they go into the Alamo Bowl and they're they're
Speaker 3: banged up on the offensive line, put guys in all
Speaker 3: these in different positions and they were getting shoved around,
Speaker 3: and then they figured it out in the middle of
Speaker 3: the game, right right in the middle of the game,
Speaker 3: they figured it out and then they and then they
Speaker 3: win the game. That's just what it what it's like
Speaker 3: at Arizona. You're not Georgia where your five star line
Speaker 3: uh left tackle goes out and you've got another five
Speaker 3: star left tackle to stick right in there. Arizona will
Speaker 3: never be that. So you you you've got to figure
Speaker 3: things out. And that's where you know your your your
Speaker 3: coaches come in in terms of evaluating talent, making sure
Speaker 3: that the guys that you do have on the bench
Speaker 3: can play and it's harder and harder all the time
Speaker 3: with these guys. So I don't know, you know, we're
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out, you know, if this line is
Speaker 3: banged up, do they have guys that can fill fill
Speaker 3: the gap.
Speaker 4: This is this is one of those games where the
Speaker 4: season obviously for Polito to be there.
Speaker 2: Why no one's no one whatever? That was again.
Speaker 4: I was talking to the guy at an event that
Speaker 4: was at today and he's a former players.
Speaker 2: What happened to him? And no one's talking and his
Speaker 2: dad was.
Speaker 4: Talking all the time, Yeah, until they all went quiet, right,
Speaker 4: So you know, whether it's whatever, I don't want to
Speaker 4: say anything publicly.
Speaker 2: He could have been used.
Speaker 3: Obviously they need They definitely needed him now, No, that
Speaker 3: definitely him, uh or even Polato not being there is hurts.
Speaker 2: It's that's a factor.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's another that's a capable body that
Speaker 3: they had that they were counting on that's not there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and we'll see.
Speaker 4: And we don't know about running back from Albuquerque of course,
Speaker 4: well no more. If he doesn't play Saturday, it's over.
Speaker 3: Well we haven't heard that he's back, No, no, you know, no.
Speaker 4: There hasn't been a press Well, there were press conferences, yeah,
Speaker 4: Saturday or Friday when they.
Speaker 2: When they roll out on the field. Was he dressed?
Speaker 3: No, so I think I Well, remember Craig Sylvester said
Speaker 3: he saw a number one on the sideline and he
Speaker 3: thought it was Tacario Davis and then he realized it
Speaker 3: was because that's his number on the defense. And then
Speaker 3: he realized it was a Jacory crossby Merit and that
Speaker 3: he wasn't playing. So I think he was on the sideline.
Speaker 3: He just wasn't playing. So you know, they were their
Speaker 3: jerseys on the sideline and stuff. But so I don't know.
Speaker 3: But again, you know, it's the second game of the year.
Speaker 2: This is a but this is your long thing.
Speaker 3: The teams that the teams that U manage are the
Speaker 3: teams that make it through injuries and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I'll go back to that must I hate to that
Speaker 3: eighty six as U rose ball team. Okay, they said
Speaker 3: the key to that season, the key to that team
Speaker 3: was that the five starters on the offensive line didn't
Speaker 3: miss a game, They didn't miss a snap, that they
Speaker 3: none of them even got hurt for a play. And
Speaker 3: that was the key to that to that team, and
Speaker 3: that's what you need to have.
Speaker 2: And there was one of successful years, the four or
Speaker 2: five yeah exactly, that ninety eight offensive line with that
Speaker 2: one big dude.
Speaker 3: He had a strange name, Scott I think really left tackle, right,
Speaker 3: he anchored that line. I mean, there are so many
Speaker 3: highlights from that season of him pancaking guys and that,
Speaker 3: you know, that was a key to that team. Trunk
Speaker 3: candidate didn't get hurt, the quarterbacks didn't get hurt, the
Speaker 3: receivers didn't get hurt. The players defense did you know,
Speaker 3: they stayed healthy and that you know, you know, Arizona's
Speaker 3: front line players are really good and they can compete
Speaker 3: against anybody. But it's when you got to put in
Speaker 3: the second or third string guy at a safety position,
Speaker 3: or on the offensive line, or at a receiver or
Speaker 3: at a quarterback that I mean, Arizona got lucky last year.
Speaker 3: The quarterback got hurt and guess what, they had a
Speaker 3: better quarterback on the sideline and didn't even realize it,
Speaker 3: or maybe they realized it and just didn't act on
Speaker 3: it at the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has passed. Yeah, that's too bad. So that's
Speaker 2: a key.
Speaker 3: And right now Arizona's already dealing with injuries, ineligibility, all
Speaker 3: these things. You kind of try and hold it together.
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's held together with like you know, clothes
Speaker 3: pins and bubble gum and bubble gum and and you know,
Speaker 3: and those kinds of the hope and a lot of
Speaker 3: hope that that something doesn't happen in the course of
Speaker 3: a in the course of a game.
Speaker 2: So Captain, what do we got there? We got about
Speaker 2: forty five seconds about okay? Cool? Yeah, so, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: we start to find out tomorrow. I'm axious for this game.
Speaker 2: I really want to really it should be fun.
Speaker 3: I went aside though, tonight, if I want to watch
Speaker 3: see what happens with a s U, if I'm gonna
Speaker 3: watch that Bill's those Dolphins game, I don't know which
Speaker 3: way I'd go with it, but Bill's Dolphins play tonight.
Speaker 3: Bill's disappointed me last week. Dolphins. You know, I let me,
Speaker 3: let me shout out this real quick. We gotta get
Speaker 3: out of here to Howard, because I don't think we
Speaker 3: got this on the air. Howard, I took I took
Speaker 3: the over in the Dodger game last night, and I
Speaker 3: hit it in the third inning.
Speaker 2: I was very happy. Only ten Bucks. But it was nice.
Speaker 3: All right, We gotta get out of here. We're gonna
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