WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:48.079 Oh bed of bar, Hello and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.000 This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is 3 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:56.439 Jacob and today we have a very special guest. 4 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:02.320 Hold on, no, this is actually the Paranoid America in podcast. 5 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:05.760 You guys, you're on my You're on my show, and 6 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:07.599 I can't be showed up. You've got you've got a 7 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:09.959 better intro that I do. You've got the better like 8 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:13.920 radio voice and the charisma. So you gotta least give 9 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:15.799 me throw me a bone here, let me get started 10 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:17.879 without taking over the show completely. 11 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.560 Oh yeah, welcome Cole Conspiracy. Welcome aboard. Man. 12 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.719 I've been on your show a couple of times. We've 13 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.640 chilled that number of different Bohemian groves. You guys are 14 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:29.560 kind of like the best in the biz. You're like, 15 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.079 you go to Rumble, You're on the top. There you 16 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.959 go anywhere, You're in like the top zero point whatever 17 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:36.799 percent of conspiracy podcast. 18 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.879 How do you do it? Who's your funder? How did 19 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.159 you get Israel to back you? Dude? 20 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:45.359 If you read the Spotify comments, on some very real levels, 21 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.840 people think that I'm bought by Israel And the only 22 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.519 reason is because I just don't inherently blame the Jews 23 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.359 for everything. Like I understand that the Jews in Israel 24 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:55.560 have a very solid hand in our government. 25 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:56.599 I'm not gonna deny that. 26 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:59.760 But when something goes wrong, I'm not to me like 27 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:04.280 it was clearly moves sad. So obviously I'm an israel plant, clearly, 28 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:04.640 and it. 29 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:07.120 Will asks you, what do you blame the Jews for? 30 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:10.639 If it's not for everything, there's got to be at 31 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:11.560 least one thing. 32 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:15.039 The air National banking conglomerate. I think there's a pretty 33 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.159 solid stance to take on that point. And if we're 34 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.319 going to go that route, the funding of both sides 35 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:23.479 of every war from Napoleon to now, Okay, I got 36 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:27.280 no problem with that. But like every single thing, does 37 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.360 not inherently lead to the Jews. As a matter of fact, 38 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.960 more often than not, I finally lead to the Gypsies. 39 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.199 But I'm just a crazy conspiracy theory. 40 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.800 Throw that one out, Like the Romani people, gypsy dude, 41 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.560 like the fucking travelers. 42 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:43.919 So tell me more, how how are the Romanis ruling 43 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:45.639 the world? This is a new one for me. 44 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.960 So all right, and that's the deal, right, It's it's 45 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.159 all about the optics. They want you to think that 46 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.759 they're like white trash that just lives in houses that 47 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:58.599 are super nice but super empty, right, and they drive 48 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.639 nice trucks, but they beat the shallow because they want 49 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:03.199 you to think that they're just the scum of the earth. 50 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:06.120 In reality, they're pulling the strings. Brother, they're out there 51 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.240 and doing the most this and even further back, Oh, 52 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.240 Hollywood's controlled by the Jews. But baba, Okay, that's a 53 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.919 cute point. And I'm not gonna deny that a lot 54 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:19.199 of very large companies within Hollywood are owned by Jewish people. 55 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.000 That's a fact. But let's go even further back from 56 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:24.400 when Hollywood. 57 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:26.960 Wasn't even the golden standard that it is, or at 58 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:28.879 least was it's not today. But you know what I'm saying, 59 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.439 let's go back to the silent films. You ever heard 60 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.280 of a guy named Charlie Chaplin. 61 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:38.240 No, I did not know. 62 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.759 He was just like a Romani gypsy. 63 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:42.919 Like an actual romani gypsy by blood. 64 00:03:42.960 --> 00:03:46.199 Yes, the actual A List celebrity to end all, be 65 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.879 all all A List celebrities was an actual gypsy. And 66 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.319 then to sidestep that, they fucking branded him as a 67 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:55.240 kami to get him off the radar. Because it's all 68 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:57.360 about the Jews, and it's like, I feel like y'all 69 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.240 are missing the obvious markers here. But yeah, clearly it's 70 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.120 about the the Israel people. 71 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:03.039 I don't know. I don't know. 72 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:06.560 I like we're off to a great star already. In fact, 73 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:07.919 I got a. 74 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.520 Little thing that I usually leave for the very end 75 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:13.080 of the show, but whenever I've got more than one 76 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:14.879 person at a time, I find it it's better to 77 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.040 start with it. So let me just let me just 78 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:18.680 kick directly into and I'll explain what's happened. 79 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.600 He conspiracy abouts, I double dare you to take some 80 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:25.879 PCP the Paranormal Conspiracy Probe on your marks, get set 81 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:27.040 and go. 82 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.279 I were front and load in this one. The rules 83 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.560 are pretty simple. I'm just gonna mention a topic and 84 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.319 I want both of you, Jacob and Raven Lee to 85 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.319 both rate it on a scale from one to ten 86 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.040 on how much you believe in this thing. 87 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.800 So you don't have I want to. 88 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:45.680 I want to hear you both answer and then you 89 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.399 can kind of duke it out maybe. So let me 90 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:50.519 just start with dinosaurs. 91 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.079 Mm, so how would you. 92 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:57.279 Zero? 93 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.480 Zero A? They're all made up? 94 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.360 And then ten is like the one hundred percent the 95 00:05:03.480 --> 00:05:05.360 real and it's silly to even question it. 96 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.319 Hmm, Oh, you want to go first to me, you 97 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:09.839 go first. 98 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.480 I'm putting it at a solid eight point five and 99 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.680 there's some caveats here, right. So I believe that certain 100 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.959 dinosaurs did exist, yes, but there's been so many things 101 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:23.279 that have come to lightly. For instance, the long neck. 102 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:26.399 We've all seen the lamb before time, little foot dude. 103 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:29.000 That was a whole part of pose traumatic, so traumatic. 104 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.879 Come to find out that type of dinosaur it never existed. 105 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.040 The person that found quote unquote discovered the long neck 106 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:38.319 or the Bronosaurus, if I'm not mistaken, basically super glued 107 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.879 the skull of one dinosaur, the neck of another dinosaur, 108 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:43.000 and the body of another dinosaur and said they found 109 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.879 a new species. So like, there's absolutely some chicnians, some 110 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.240 fuckery afoot, and I'm willing to acknowledge that. But I 111 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.439 also do believe that there is prehistoric animals that we 112 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.240 have found fossil records of, and some of their ancestors 113 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:57.480 still exist today, i e. 114 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.079 The alligators and the sharks and things like that. 115 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.000 Horseshoe crab absolutely which we use their blood in a 116 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.959 lot of our medical industry today, but that you know. 117 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.000 So I'm not saying that every single dinosaur that we've 118 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.040 ever thought of actually existed, but I'm saying the vast 119 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:14.920 majority of them did. 120 00:06:14.920 --> 00:06:16.600 I'm putting it out a solid eight point five. 121 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:19.279 I think I would go seven point five. 122 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.639 Okay, you did, you did? Archaeological I know. 123 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:24.319 That's what I'm like. 124 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:28.800 Oh, okay, So I do agree that we have obviously 125 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:34.120 fossils that are still that are actual prehistoric fossils. We 126 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.680 also have creatures that are still around today that are 127 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:41.439 from that era, but there is a lot of things 128 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:46.120 that they've misled, they've carbondated wrong. They've also you know, 129 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:50.120 spliced different bones together to create these you know, animals 130 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.160 or creatures or whatever they want to call them. So 131 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.079 I don't know, I'm kind of teetering on the seven 132 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.639 point five to eat scale. But I do believe there 133 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.240 is at least some residents for dinosaurs, and that there 134 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.560 was different types of dinosaurs, just not as what we say, 135 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.199 like what you know Jurassic World is now. 136 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:12.680 Also, I do believe in dragons, but I also believe 137 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:17.480 that we might be calling those dinosaurs too far ahead. 138 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:18.360 Hold on, hold, on. 139 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.680 The next one is going to be dragons. So I 140 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.439 wanted to dragons, and let me put some caveats in here. 141 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.040 You can't construe it to me, like that's what old 142 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:34.360 ancestors used to call dinosaurs. We're talking flying and or 143 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.319 fire breathing like the things. 144 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:39.199 Ven. 145 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:42.199 So it also, like you said, it depends on the culture. 146 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:46.560 Right in Southeast Asia, these were furry snakes that ran 147 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.639 across the rain drops, and like Rya exactly, those were 148 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:55.560 dragons per that culture. European puts these to be the winged, 149 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.720 fire breathing, scaly dragons that we see in like bale wolf. 150 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:01.360 The Native American had their own version of it. 151 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.839 The South American natives had their own version of So 152 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.319 like when we say dragons, quote unquote, that's there's a 153 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.319 wide berth that goes into this. 154 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:12.759 You pick out of all those different versions of a dragon, 155 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.000 you pick your favorite region that you think is closest 156 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.240 to being true, and just give me, like, what what 157 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:20.639 number that would fall in. 158 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:22.639 I gotta be honest with you, brother, I'm putting out 159 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.680 of solid ten sold ten. Reason being, there's a few 160 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.720 examples of let's call them tropes for lack of better 161 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.840 words that no matter what culture you're talking about, these 162 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:37.159 these civilizations that never had contact with each other, they 163 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.840 all had very similar stories. A few of these would 164 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:46.519 be vampires, zombies, shape shifters, giants, dragons. That doesn't mean 165 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.559 one hundred percent that they're all saying that this exact 166 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.960 thing took place across the world. What I'm saying is 167 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.639 there is at least that kernel of truth that all 168 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.000 of these cultures and all of these civilizations started those 169 00:08:58.039 --> 00:08:58.919 stories off of. 170 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.600 So did the actual dragons. 171 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.159 Of old look like, sound like, breathe fire, whatever, like 172 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.399 we might think maybe yes, maybe no, But did dragons exist? 173 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:13.360 There's no way that the Aztecs and the French and 174 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:17.320 the Southeast Asians and the Australians all acknowledged dragons existed 175 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.000 when these people never talk to each other unless there 176 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.519 was that kernel of truth that connected it all. 177 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:23.960 So I'm putting out of solid. 178 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:28.840 Ten right right related, I'm pretty much like nine point 179 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.799 five ten. Dragons is one of my favorites. So that's 180 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:36.080 definitely something that I'm like, please be real, I love 181 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:37.360 the theories. 182 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:42.399 So how about ghosts? And we can qualify however you want, 183 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.120 But I'm just gonna say ghosts and then let you define. 184 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:50.919 That ten mm zero what. I don't believe in ghosties 185 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:56.360 at all, really, not even a little bit. Now, Oh, 186 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.120 you are very different religious backgrounds, and that's very fair. Yes, 187 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.480 so per my religious beliefs, I don't believe that a 188 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.519 spirit or a soul is going to get caught between 189 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:10.240 the ether and start fucking with people on earth. If anything, 190 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.039 I believe that it might be a demonic force that 191 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.519 is projecting itself as a deceased loved one or something 192 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.000 that is trying to make itself known to you. 193 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:19.480 And that also goes to my background. 194 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:21.960 I had a demon connected and attached to me until 195 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.480 I was like twenty five, and in the very earliest 196 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.600 stages of that, it presented itself as my grandmother who 197 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:34.399 had recently died. Now that being said, I'm not saying 198 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:38.120 that uh like weed gi boards are communicating with the dead. 199 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:40.759 I believe that that is absolutely real as well. But 200 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:44.240 the apparitions or the ghosties of it, yeah, I don't 201 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:45.519 actually believe in those. 202 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.440 So wow, I really thought that you'd at least have 203 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.559 some kernel like maybe I was thinking he'd probably honestly 204 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.240 be like maybe a two point five to three I 205 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:56.639 didn't think you would go straight zero. 206 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:59.399 Yeah, there's no there's no real room for discussions with 207 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:03.919 a zero, right, I know, he's just like you're at 208 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.919 the other end of that extreme. 209 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.200 At the extream of it. 210 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:07.600 Yeah. 211 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.039 No, I I completely believe that there is ghosts and 212 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:15.039 that there is an in between, and there are things 213 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:19.480 that we just don't quite understand fully, because I believe 214 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.039 that a lot of people have seen, for example, the 215 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:24.639 I don't know what they're actually called, but they're like 216 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:27.840 for me personally, I call them like the dark the 217 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:31.039 dark man, grayman. They're like dark shadows, but you see 218 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.279 them like all the time, and like they consistently move around. 219 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:37.919 They're with you like all the time, honestly, And I've 220 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:39.759 talked to a lot of other people that have had 221 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.399 those experiences where like you kind of you see them 222 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:44.480 out of your peripheral and like you know that there's 223 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.840 something else there, there's a presence with you, you just 224 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:51.279 aren't sure exactly what it is. Me personally, I've had 225 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.759 like weird experiences for a long time, like my whole 226 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:55.440 life pretty much, and I just kind of ignored at 227 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:55.759 this point. 228 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:57.360 I'm just like whatever, go away. 229 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.159 But I know a lot of people that have had 230 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.720 different kind of experiences with ghosts, and I actually really 231 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:06.799 believe that there is an in between and that there 232 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.320 are spirits of some type that are trapped or maybe 233 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.519 it's like another dimension that's kind of linked to us 234 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.639 and that we're seeing, like the feeds of souls that 235 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.919 we aren't quite sure from another dimension. I'm not one 236 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.000 hundred percent certain what it is, but I think there's 237 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.879 way too much evidence in so many people that have 238 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.039 said throughout, you know, the last couple of centuries, that 239 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:30.879 there is a ghost to just be like, nah, there's nothing. 240 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.000 So I believe in the shadow man like you're talking 241 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.200 about what. I don't believe that those are souls that 242 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:35.799 are caught. 243 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:36.039 In the ether. 244 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:37.480 You believe they're demonic? 245 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:42.120 Yes, almost one, because every time that because it's like 246 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.600 to say, of the spiritual realm, there has to be 247 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:46.559 a positive and a negative. 248 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:48.480 Right, they live in a binary world. 249 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.879 So then why is it that? So what's the positive 250 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:51.960 caveat to that? 251 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.759 Because if everything is demnic, then what is a positive 252 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.559 in the form of a ghost or a spirit. 253 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.759 So I've also witnessed than angel and I have witnessed 254 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:05.039 a demon both with my own eyes right, that demonic 255 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.360 story and Angel had to come in and save me twice. 256 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:09.759 And so I've seen him with my eyes. I know 257 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:12.320 his name, i know what he looks like, all the things. 258 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.320 So when we look at the world, there's very few 259 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.919 areas of gray. There's a very black and white world 260 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.960 that we live in. There are a few caveats. I'm 261 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:21.639 not going to side. 262 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.559 Step in actect there is nothing but grays. 263 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:28.320 Oh, there's no way of you right, well, I mean 264 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:32.039 it's the fact it's like a binary cow. 265 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:33.000 I don't know. 266 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.840 I feel like there's so much that overlaps and blends together, 267 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:38.639 that black and white is so clear cut when there's 268 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.279 so many things that are so unknown to us at 269 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.600 this time that there is just to me personally, there's 270 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.720 so many areas of gray that can be up for interpretation, 271 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:52.759 that can be discussed that it's subjective to each person's experience, 272 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.519 their background, what they're open to, you know, are they 273 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.240 more sensitive to kind of you know, any kind of 274 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.960 spiritual activity. You know, are you completely closed off? Like 275 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.600 it just depends. I don't think there is just a 276 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.279 black and white code that's happening. I think there is that, 277 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.159 But on top of that, there's gray in between. 278 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.840 I think that a lot of our gray area is 279 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.720 human misunderstanding. And I'm not saying that to where it's 280 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.240 one person versus another. I think it's things that we 281 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.919 cannot neatly explain one way or another at this time, 282 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.000 so we throw it into the gray. But it's like 283 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:26.519 the binary code is ones and zeros. Right, basketball is 284 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.440 either in the hoop or out of the hoop. And 285 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.320 I'm not saying that one side is more or less 286 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:31.960 better or worse than the other. It just kind of 287 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:32.720 is what it is. 288 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:33.279 Right. 289 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:36.159 Not a big believer in say, like quantum physics, where 290 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.039 there could be a third state or a fourth state. 291 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:40.919 No, Well, but look into those third and fourth states. 292 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.799 It's not that it's a yes and a no. It's 293 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.039 both at the same time. But that doesn't negate that 294 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.440 it was a yes and a no happening. 295 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:49.480 Sounds like a gray to me. If it's yes and no, 296 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:50.919 that sounds like gray. 297 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:54.080 But it doesn't make it an in between. It shows 298 00:14:54.120 --> 00:14:57.639 both possibilities, but it doesn't decide that it's not choosing. 299 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:03.279 Okay, we'll get in there what we're gonna get I'm 300 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.200 really curious too, though, on Raven Lee. If you're believe 301 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.200 in ghosts, do you think ghosts could be put to work? 302 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:11.799 And I know, and we're not talking about demons or 303 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.960 like gamons or angels, but if there were a ghost, 304 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.840 which I kind of would assume is sort of a 305 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.720 neutral entity, you don't go to Hell for dealing with 306 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.120 the ghosts, right, and you're not necessarily like dealing with 307 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:23.639 an angel. 308 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.480 Could you put one to work, like. 309 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:29.360 Use it for your own means or yeah, like a couple. 310 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.720 I'll give you two examples. Okay, there's versions where people 311 00:15:32.759 --> 00:15:36.080 explain ghosts or knocking things off of shelves or knocking 312 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.799 things out of cabinets. Let's say you're short and you 313 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.679 needed like a thing off the top shelf. You could 314 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.799 be like, hey, go, they are capable of knocking things 315 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.279 off shelves, right, so technically they can knock it off 316 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.080 the shelf. And then likewise, if they can open and 317 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.080 close doors, you could technically harness that kinetic energy and 318 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:56.759 use it to like power your PlayStation or something. 319 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:00.679 Hmm, I've actually not really thought of it like that. 320 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:05.000 I feel like there is maybe a potential to I 321 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.480 don't know, maybe work with them to be able to see, 322 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.159 you know, from the other side, kind of see what's 323 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.799 going on and like maybe there, I don't know, maybe 324 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.519 be more enlightened. I've never really thought about actually using 325 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:18.720 them to be like, hey, can you can you shut 326 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:19.120 that for me? 327 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:20.120 Can you hand that to me? 328 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:25.039 I mean maybe I've never really looked into it, but 329 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.519 I mean everything has energy, and if maybe somebody is 330 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.360 open to the possibility and there's like enough you know, 331 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.360 energy passing between two people or you know, spirit in 332 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:37.440 that person, potentially I don't know, trying to figure. 333 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:39.360 Out a way we can move off fossil fuels. 334 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.840 Well, now now I have to change my answer from 335 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.120 zero to one. Oh okay, there's some caveats to that, like, 336 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:51.600 for example, when you go to Gettysburg or when you 337 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:54.039 go to the hot Gates where the Spartans at there 338 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:55.919 the last end of the three hundred or something where 339 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.919 there is a battleground where there was mass death. There 340 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.440 was a lot of death in this one, even if 341 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:06.200 you recall like a five square acre plot of land 342 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.160 and there were thousands of lives lost there, So. 343 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:11.720 Like a like a planned parenthood in a metropolitan area 344 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:12.599 one percent. 345 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.400 Now you're with me, right, obviously, So I feel like 346 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.480 for that to happen, that much energy exchanged to be 347 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.599 happening in that point in time, there's no way that 348 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.079 the earth itself is not going to have some sort 349 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:27.799 of resonance energy with that, and so, and I'm not 350 00:17:27.799 --> 00:17:31.279 gonna say necessarily ghosties, but I feel like that's a 351 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:33.720 good enough as term as any to put to that. 352 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.400 The Native Americans believe that when so much blood was 353 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.519 spilled on a certain plot of land, the earth would 354 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:43.000 gain a thirst for it and there would be some 355 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:46.359 negative entities attached to it, not necessarily demons, but it 356 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.160 was like the soul exchange that took place at this 357 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:54.119 plot on that specific day changed the earth itself. 358 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:54.440 At that point. 359 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.240 Well, I mean, water has memory, and our body and 360 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:59.799 our blood has made so much of water, so I 361 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.559 mean and essentially the water aka the blood is seeping 362 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.640 into the land, so it should, by all accounts, have 363 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:10.079 a memory of what happened, plus have the energy harnessed 364 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.400 that is leaving the You know, it's such an intense 365 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:16.920 battle or violent desks and stuff that normally associates with 366 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:20.000 intense energy. So yeah, it would make sense to have 367 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:22.039 that much energy located in one position. 368 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:25.599 But it Also, there's so much Hollywood bullshit that has 369 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.640 been associated with this over the past few years, like, 370 00:18:27.640 --> 00:18:29.119 for instance, the Myrtle's Plantation. 371 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:31.119 You've heard of it, go on. 372 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:35.880 It's of the top five most haunted places in America. Right, 373 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:38.359 it's old plantation home in Louisiana, and it is a 374 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:39.079 gorgeous location. 375 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.920 They'll get me ready, but it's so haunted. Here's the 376 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:43.480 bitch of it. 377 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.359 My aunt, like my actual aunt, my godmother as a 378 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.640 matter of fact, grew up there for the vast majority 379 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:54.119 of her childhood and teenage years. But they sold it 380 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:55.759 because it's a bitch and a half to try to 381 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:59.720 upkeep an antebellum plantation home. Any repair you have to 382 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.039 make has to go through like three levels of approval, 383 00:19:02.119 --> 00:19:04.200 and then you start the process of paying for it. 384 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:06.640 So they sold it to some people, who sold it 385 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:08.880 to some people who sold it to some Hollywood people, 386 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.880 and then somewhere around the early nineties, the Myrtle's Plantation 387 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:14.839 is the most haunted in America. 388 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.960 It's not. It's fucking not. Like she never even had 389 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.480 a nightmare the entire time she lived there. Not one 390 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.920 ghost story, not well, you know, the spirits. 391 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.839 Of the slaves. They just come after the people. Now 392 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:27.000 they don't, They fucking don't. 393 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:28.559 So I'm not. 394 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.319 Saying there is a absolute zero. I'm saying there's at 395 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:34.799 least that crumb of possibility for the ghosties, but so 396 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:39.000 much of it has been mythologized and put into lore 397 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:43.519 that honestly, at this point it's practically zero. But I 398 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.359 will at least give the caveat that maybe there is 399 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.000 something that we can't easily explain when it comes to 400 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:50.240 that intermediate space. 401 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.119 Well, we were able to get Jacob to go from 402 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:55.640 a zero to one with five minutes, so I feel 403 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.799 like if we kept this topic we could get it too. 404 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:01.039 We could get it too. We'll leave it for later. 405 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.039 Yeah, we can give it maybe two out of him. 406 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:04.759 I know what. 407 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:06.960 I'll take the wind for the one. Okay, I'll take 408 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.039 the wind. 409 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:11.119 I got it. 410 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.559 And can you rate holy water? Just the concept of 411 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:16.240 holy water? 412 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.319 You almost you did. 413 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.240 Drink come out of my nose? Brother, holy shit? 414 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:27.039 Okay, raven le you first me being a you know, 415 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.799 I was raised Catholic for a while, I got my 416 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:30.440 own opinions. 417 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.079 But please, if you go first. 418 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.759 Rate holy water, do I believe that it's real? Well? 419 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:39.920 I'm gonna go with, like. 420 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:43.880 M maybe like a four point five. 421 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:49.079 Really maybe five, that's way higher than I thought you. 422 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:49.960 I was gonna go. 423 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:52.599 Maybe like a three point seventy five. I was like, no, 424 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:56.440 I mean, you can't. I can't justify saying that it's 425 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.720 not real when I do believe in exorcism. So I'm like, Nope, 426 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.079 I have to still agree that there is some merits. 427 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:06.359 Believe in exorcisms. I didn't know that. 428 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.880 I honestly expected Raven Lee to say that it was 429 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:11.079 a zero point three five. 430 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:11.400 Out of ten. 431 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:13.799 Well, I mean, but that's like saying, Okay, so on 432 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:15.720 one hand, I wholly believe in ghosts, but. 433 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.319 I don't believe in exorcisms. 434 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:20.240 To me, that doesn't make any sense, Like if I'm 435 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:24.720 going to be open to all spiritual entities, then I shouldn't, 436 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:27.680 in fact include I do believe that there is demons 437 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.880 in demonic possessions, and I one hundred percent believe that, 438 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.079 like there there should. 439 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:35.519 Be maybe some I mean, I don't know. 440 00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:37.960 I just believe that there's some type of power in 441 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.079 at least uh trying to get demonic possessions. 442 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:44.440 But ghosts and demons aren't the same thing. Or do 443 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:47.519 you acknowledge them to be kind of close? Uh? 444 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:49.559 No, I believe that they could be different things. I 445 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:52.960 just like, to me, there should be if you're harnessing 446 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:57.519 energy by using for example, like you know, using different 447 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:01.000 relics or doing a ritual or some kind, why wouldn't 448 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:03.799 you Why wouldn't I still agree with doing a ritual 449 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:08.079 practice of blessing water and using that to you know, 450 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.519 use it as a for demon in possessions. So if 451 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.279 I'm if some of you's doing a normal ritual, then 452 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:18.559 you know it's one and the same, so it's a ritual. 453 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:21.200 Nevertheless, I'm going to round you to a five. It 454 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.000 sounded like you were close enough to a five. We 455 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:23.720 can just call it that. 456 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:25.559 I guess we'll go to a five. 457 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.319 So my background with it, I was raised Roman Catholic 458 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.160 up until I was about twelve years old. My mother 459 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.319 is a non denominational Christian. My father is a Catholic. 460 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.720 So I've seen both sides of the coin as far 461 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.319 as the Protestant movement goes and the Catholic movement goes. 462 00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:45.920 So I am not going to sit here and say 463 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:49.960 that I don't believe that things can be blessed I 464 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:51.359 absolutely do believe that. 465 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:55.039 However, when it comes to holy water. 466 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:58.000 When I was in catechism at the Roman Catholic Church, 467 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:00.599 they were telling us about holy water and actually brought 468 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.799 us back behind the little behind the little stage or 469 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.519 the altar or wherever the priest does his things, and 470 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:10.400 they showed us a fawcet where only holy water comes 471 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.799 out of. For the record, it's hooked up to city water. 472 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:14.960 Just so everyone's clear. It's not like a tank of 473 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:16.920 holy water that this is being fed off of. It's 474 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:20.240 city water. But he blessed the faucet, and therefore all 475 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:21.880 the water that comes out of that is blessed. 476 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:25.799 Oh oh, just wait, oh, it's about to get better. 477 00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:28.039 And I was like, wait, you don't believe in holy 478 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:29.799 water and I believe more than holy water. 479 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:31.599 Wait wait wait, wait wait wait, I haven't given my 480 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:34.799 number yet. Okay, number yet, so hold on. So and 481 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:36.440 I'm watching this and I'm like, all right, And for 482 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:39.319 the record, this faucet wasn't like gilded in gold. 483 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:42.519 It was a regular fawcet, right, But I let it go. 484 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:46.359 I'm thinking, like, okay, blessings can maybe work third party 485 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:49.119 like that. I'm eleven years old. At this point, I 486 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.279 don't know any different. I'm listening and I'm like so 487 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:54.599 real quick. And I was the only one to ask 488 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.119 this question. And I felt like such an asshole after 489 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.200 asking because of the look that all the other kids 490 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.319 in the catechism gave me. But whatever, it was a 491 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:05.160 solid question. I was like, so, the holy water that 492 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:07.799 goes down the drain, what happens to that? Does it 493 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:10.160 just like go to the sewer and it blesses all 494 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.440 of the sewer water? Like do we have holy sewer 495 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.720 water out here that we're just like unaware of? Like 496 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.640 the modad is a holy modad and shit, like it's 497 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:19.640 a holy septic tank. 498 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:20.200 I didn't know. 499 00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.799 And so he's like, actually, no, the way this was piped, 500 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:26.640 it goes out to the ground outside, because holy water 501 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:27.559 must go back. 502 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:27.839 To the earth. 503 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.480 And I'm like, so you're just letting this holy water 504 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.240 get ran outside, Like there's a massive mudpile out behind 505 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:35.640 the church where all this holy. 506 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.480 Water is just getting dumped and we're just like letting 507 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:38.480 that shit go to waste. 508 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.400 I what if you plane it, do you get eaten 509 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:42.599 like more blessed? 510 00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:43.759 You know? 511 00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:46.880 If I was to plant a tomato plant at the base. 512 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.279 Of holy holy water, blessed tomatoes. 513 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:50.400 Holy tomatoes. 514 00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:53.759 Yo, you could sell them at a market, see like, 515 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.799 look they were blessed this and they were grown on 516 00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:58.759 with using holy water. 517 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:01.319 This is where my eleven year old add brain went. 518 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:05.000 And the people that were teaching the catechism class got 519 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:06.680 quite annoyed with me. 520 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.400 Gonna be honest, there's the reason why I left the 521 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.079 church when I was a teenagers. 522 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:12.839 We went back to a Catholic church. 523 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.880 I have, oh my God, about to. 524 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.680 Say, you were raised in a evangelical church, so you 525 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:19.920 went to a Catholic church before. 526 00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:22.960 I only went there for two things. I've only been 527 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:26.519 twice in a wedding and a funeral. It was both 528 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.119 a funeral and then I actually got drugged to a 529 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.240 sermon or whatever and it was like a mass. 530 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:33.759 Yeah, and it was so long. 531 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:34.920 It's an hour. 532 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:37.400 No, we were there for three and a half hours. 533 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.599 I don't know why I was there for three and 534 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.640 a half hours. It was god awful. 535 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:43.359 Oh you've got one of them priests that were like 536 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.720 gonna go through every line liturgy. 537 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:48.559 It was so much and we were up and down 538 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:50.279 so much. I was like, I'm gonna break a sweat 539 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.240 just doing this, like what are we here for? And 540 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.240 so many Hail Mary's and I was like, why are 541 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:56.319 we hail marrying? 542 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:58.759 Like I am so fucking confused. 543 00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.519 Like that's crazy because the Catholic Mass is not supposed 544 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:01.960 to have a Hail Mary in it, So you were 545 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:03.119 there for like something special. 546 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:04.279 I don't look. 547 00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.720 My girlfriend was like, hey, I don't want to go 548 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.480 to church by myself, and I was like I don't 549 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:10.680 want to go to church either, but she's like, you 550 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.519 know what, We'll just go. It'll be super short and 551 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.319 we'll go to the movies afterwards. She's like, bade me 552 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.119 to go, and I'm like, okay. Three and a half 553 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.200 hours later, I'm like, are we dying? Are we gonna 554 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.279 die in this church? Like I felt like we were 555 00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.240 like blessed, re blessed, and I was like, are they 556 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:27.119 gonna sacrifice? 557 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:27.920 At this point? 558 00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:31.680 Like dude, God, it was so many different things happening, 559 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.519 and I was like, what is going on right now? 560 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:36.920 So I just wanted to go watch Blade, Like that's 561 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:37.480 all I wanted. 562 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:39.319 You got to go to. 563 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.960 Mass before you go see Wesley Snipe slays some vampire. 564 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.480 You know what. One of the greatest cinematic movies ever made. 565 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.680 Oh, I'm not denying that calms. 566 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.279 Down like the best opening scene of every like any 567 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:51.559 movie period. 568 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.279 All right, So when it comes to with me personally, 569 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:57.359 I'm gonna put it also at five out of ten. 570 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.240 Do I believe that things can be bla including water? 571 00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:01.839 Yes? 572 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:07.400 Absolutely, With the caveat the majority of the I've seen 573 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.839 these people with these little plastic bottles of Oh that's. 574 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:10.599 Real holy water. 575 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:14.440 You mean a dude waved his human hands over it 576 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.319 and said that it's blessed. When the Bible says that 577 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.240 if you are following the word of God, then you 578 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:23.440 are a saint by definition. So like you, if you 579 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.720 are walking in the righteousness in the way, you can 580 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.640 bless shit. You don't have to get approval from another 581 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.359 man to make yourself more or less valid than any 582 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.880 other man. But that also comes with some responsibilities, and 583 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:38.400 that comes with some skin in the game. 584 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.039 But that's a talk for another day. So yes, do 585 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.599 I believe that holy water can be a thing. Yes. 586 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.200 The vast majority of shit that is claiming to be 587 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.519 holy water, uh, you know, it's very similar to those 588 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:53.160 relics that like this is the bone of saint ignacious. 589 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:55.720 In reality, that's a fucking chicken bone somebody broke off 590 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.720 into a piece and put in a little glass case, 591 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.119 like you know. Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm apt. 592 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:05.279 I feel that this is close enough related, and I 593 00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.200 got to ask about transubstantiation in general. 594 00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:09.240 Let's do that. 595 00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:14.200 So turning wine into blood, right, which I think is 596 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:16.559 is almost specifically a Catholic practice. 597 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:18.480 Yeah, yeah, So let's just. 598 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:22.880 Let's just assume that you give into whatever Catholic predisposition 599 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.079 you had, like how how legitimate is transubstantiation? 600 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:32.880 So all right, when it comes to something biblical, I say, 601 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.039 is it a salvation issue or not? 602 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:40.720 Give an example of this. Noah in his flood? 603 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:43.599 Was it a myth in a story that got told 604 00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.599 so many times they finally wrote it into the Bible? Okay, 605 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:48.720 and I don't believe that's true, But let's say it 606 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.200 is true. Is that a salvation issue? Can you get 607 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:54.480 to Heaven without believing in Noah in the arc? 608 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:55.039 Yes? 609 00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.079 Does it give you more of a backdrop to the 610 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:00.039 story of the entire. 611 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:02.000 To why we needed Jesus? 612 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.440 Yes, it's not a salvation issue, So I don't give 613 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.559 it that much credence, saying that Mary is the Mother 614 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.799 of God. I might find that a bit blasphemous, but 615 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.839 I also feel like Protestants do not give Mary enough 616 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.880 recognition for being the literal carrier of the new arc 617 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.680 of the New Covenant. We should be putting some respect 618 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.319 on her name, for sure, but not believing that Mary 619 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:26.079 is the Mother of God. 620 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.279 That's not a salvation issue. Transubstantiation. 621 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.680 Do I believe that when you go and take Holy 622 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:36.240 Communion that the little fucking styrofoam wafer allegedly unlever bread, 623 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:37.200 It's styrofoam. 624 00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:38.279 It's styrofoam. 625 00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:40.720 And do I believe that that going into your body 626 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:44.119 is turning into Jesus Christ's actual flesh. 627 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:45.240 No, No, I do not. 628 00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.880 And believing that, again, I do not believe is a 629 00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.519 salvation issue. It might be a faith issue, and that's fine, 630 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:55.440 and we could have these debates. People have been doing 631 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.759 that for the last two thousand years. 632 00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:02.839 But I don't believe that yes or no to the 633 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.680 Holy Communion is going to be the thing that makes 634 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:07.839 or breaks you getting your name written. 635 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.359 Into the Book of life, so to speak. So I 636 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.880 don't believe that trans of satiation is real. Also, if 637 00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:16.079 you take Holy communion and then in the next forty 638 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.119 eight hours they take a stool sample. They're not gonna 639 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:22.640 find DNA of another human being that's not you. That 640 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:24.920 test has been done multiple times, and they're like, well, 641 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:27.880 they found humans, know for sure, they have done the 642 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:31.640 studies on it, and the DNA that they have found 643 00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:37.759 quote unquote is uh. It's inconclusive, meaning it could be 644 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:42.559 that own person's DNA, like maybe they ate their fingernail 645 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.480 that day or something like that and they got some 646 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.240 sort of human DNA in their stomach and they just 647 00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:49.960 kind of roll with it. It's not enough, it's not 648 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:54.160 a conclusive enough statement or investigation to say that, yep, 649 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.680 that's clearly the blood of Jesus Christ. Not to mention 650 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.759 they believe that Jesus Christ was ab blood type. And 651 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.319 if you take a piss sample of somebody forty eight 652 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.160 hours after and they're oh positive, I promise you're not 653 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.799 going to find remnants of a by blood in their piss. 654 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:10.640 It's it's it's one of these things that it's a 655 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:13.440 faith issue, and I'm not gonna shit on Catholics for 656 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.799 having their faith in this regard and mad respect for 657 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.480 the amount of faith that it requires, but I think 658 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.400 we can all agree that transubstantiation is not going to 659 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.039 keep you from heaven or send you to hell. So 660 00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.119 I don't really put a lot of weight behind it. 661 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:31.599 So what you're reading, Obbs, you're out of ten? Yeah, 662 00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:36.240 I don't believe it either, so I'm zero ten. 663 00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:39.799 How about that Lee Harvey Oswald had anything to do 664 00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:45.440 with JFK's assassination beyond just being the patsy? But like, 665 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.599 do you think that he was in on it, like 666 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.000 he pointed a gun, or that he knew something was 667 00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:50.640 going to happen? 668 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.359 I feel like you have so much more historical background 669 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:56.359 on this than I do. 670 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.880 So was he in the click that something was gonna 671 00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.039 go down? I believe probably? 672 00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.680 Yes? Was he the trigger puller? No? No, I don't believe. 673 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.680 So I'll put that at a one out of ten, 674 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.799 And I'm being very generous with that one out of ten. 675 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:19.319 Honestly, I guess maybe like one too. 676 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.440 I feel like he actually knew at least to something, 677 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.359 like he agreed to take the fall, so he knew 678 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.759 something what's gonna happen, But I don't know about how 679 00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.559 much there you go? 680 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:31.799 Help? 681 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.599 How about Bigfoot go ahead? 682 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.400 Or ten? 683 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.119 Out of ten. 684 00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.960 I'm I'm a seam scranch believer. I have always been 685 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.240 and I probably always will be. It's like one of 686 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.359 my first things. I well, that's because there's like literally 687 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.440 a Bigfoot placed down the street like. 688 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.880 A whole museum from where I grew up. 689 00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.039 So I have always believed, without a shadow of doubt 690 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.319 that this is something that's. 691 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:04.640 Do I believe the sam Squinch existed ever throughout the 692 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:09.240 course of history exists? Yeah? Sure, No, Do I believe 693 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:11.960 that it exists today in the realm that the cultural 694 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.839 zeite guy says, not even a little bit. I'm putting 695 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:18.319 this in set of solid like two out of ten. Yeah, 696 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.720 I'm sorry to say that there's an air dimensional, half 697 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.200 ape giant prehistoric that's super sentient and can communicate through 698 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.000 telepathy and all these things and all these but to 699 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.519 the point, all these Native American tribes have a story 700 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.880 about it. All these ancient stories have a story about 701 00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.680 the Bigfoot. So I believe that there's that kernel of 702 00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:39.599 truth for sure. 703 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.000 What about the Yetti that's his cousin, the. 704 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.519 Same thing, the same thing. 705 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.759 There's that kernel of truth that I'm not going to 706 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:48.359 deny to say that it exists to the realm that 707 00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.319 people put it to today, not even fucking close. 708 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:54.440 So I'm putting out a solid two out of ten. 709 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:02.160 Okay, how about HARP, And I don't mean being a thing, 710 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:04.319 because it is a real thing, right yeah, But I 711 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.000 mean that that it has the capabilities that usually get 712 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:08.639 espoused to it. 713 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:10.039 Let's just list a couple of them. 714 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.239 Mind control would be one, creating tornadoes or hurricanes. Weather 715 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.760 manipulation would be another one. There's some stated uses for it, 716 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:21.559 but I'm curious how much credit do you give that 717 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:26.000 HARP is actively being used in some sort of global 718 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.440 plays like you would see on conspiracy channels. 719 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.400 So I will talk. 720 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.199 I will speak just strictly on the weather manipulation aspect 721 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:38.280 of it. There is quite a few patterns that they 722 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.199 have created in the last few I don't know, probably 723 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:46.000 about eight nine years that are associated with HARP that 724 00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:50.719 are about like cloud seating, different types of planes that 725 00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.719 they've used over California. The patent like four different plane 726 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:57.639 models that pretty much manipulate whether. There's quite a few 727 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:01.000 things that they have created that can in fact manipulate 728 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.679 what weather, including like tornadoes, increasing them, changing the directions 729 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:09.000 and strength of hurricanes, those kind of things. 730 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.880 So I just in that regard, I. 731 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.000 Do believe like eight out I don't know, eight out 732 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.760 of ten, I would say for sure. 733 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:17.599 I'm putting in a solid ten at ten. 734 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.159 Yeah, I mean, and then plus they have the cloud dating, 735 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.519 not just the cloud seating, the giant cloud making machines 736 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.719 up in Alaska that they make clouds off of, and 737 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.719 so I mean they're completely able to control the weather 738 00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:33.679 and manipulate. 739 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.519 Plus you're talking about seismic activity. 740 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.159 You have the rods in the ground that you can 741 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:41.159 actually change the they're tracking the seismic activity of things. 742 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.599 But there's also there was this story in patent that 743 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.639 was talking about being able to shift kind of like 744 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:49.800 the strength in which they were able to make it 745 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.360 happen and potentially make a volcano erupt, and they didn't 746 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:55.920 do it, but they were like, well we could have. 747 00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:57.960 We kind of have the capability of doing this. 748 00:35:58.800 --> 00:35:59.039 Yeah. 749 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:02.679 I believe what really sold me on Harp aside from 750 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.119 the clouds heating, aside from the hurricanes that they just 751 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.280 seem to send right down the pipe of a place 752 00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.559 that just needs a little cataclysm, and all of that. 753 00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:14.519 I could sidestep that and put it towards random natural 754 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.599 disasters to a point. So when I was working in 755 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.000 the oil refiners and chemical plants in Louisiana, you would 756 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:24.119 see this big band of rain about to come through, 757 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:26.599 and if it starts raining, work has to stop. 758 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:27.280 Right. 759 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.840 You would see these plants fire up all their furnaces, 760 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.960 all their boilers and send heat up into the sky, 761 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.400 and you would literally watch a storm cloud just wave 762 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:41.760 come through, split around the plant, and then reconnect and 763 00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.440 then continue once it got to the other side. The 764 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.760 only dry spot in the city would be at that facility. 765 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.000 And that's a very small that's a micro as far 766 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.960 as weather manipulation goes. So if they could do that 767 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.480 at the small scale with these industrial plants just to 768 00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:00.840 keep workers working, I know for a act, they could 769 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.159 do it at the macro to send massive blizzards or 770 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.639 massive tornadoes or hurricanes or earthquakes anywhere else. And that 771 00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.119 was like, you know what, they absolutely are controlling the 772 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:10.639 fucking weather. 773 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.320 There's no way they're not, honestly. 774 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.199 Next up is the theory of evolution. How close do 775 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:18.320 you think that is to the truth? 776 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:19.559 Braving? 777 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.760 You want to take this? This is something we've talked 778 00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.079 to a good bit about. I actually did a presentation 779 00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:28.440 my first Cult episode I ever was featured on. 780 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.320 It was about evolution and the evolutionary theory. 781 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:36.880 So I have different thoughts about this in particular thing 782 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.000 I've done tons of research into it. 783 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.599 I believe that there is at least there is truth 784 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:45.639 to some of it. 785 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.199 I think that we are at least connected, that there 786 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:50.760 are Neanderthals. 787 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.880 I think there is different types. 788 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.440 That we at least have some mutation, you know, we 789 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.800 evolved in some way. Some of it doesn't link up 790 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.840 for me personally because it just kind of doesn't make 791 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.960 one hundred percent since, but there is a lot of 792 00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.920 it that I've read that does make sense as in 793 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.000 an evolutionary aspect. So I would say at least at 794 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.840 least honestly like a seven seven out of ten. 795 00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.880 So for me, evolution as far as we all came 796 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.119 from monkeys zero out of ten. Evolution in the sense 797 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.719 of a species adapting to their environment over the course 798 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.679 of thousands of years and changing as a result of it, 799 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.159 or genetic mutations or whatever else. Sure absolutely like to 800 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.639 say that all dogs came from the dire wolf, or 801 00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:41.800 all cats came from the saber tooth tiger, or all 802 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:45.440 elephants came from the wooly mammoth. Okay, that, but that's 803 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.119 not an entire species change. That's adaptations for their environment 804 00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:49.840 over time. 805 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:51.880 And what if we skip species. 806 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.000 What if we don't say monkeys, What if we said 807 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:55.800 humans came from Amiba's. 808 00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.519 Yeah, that's that's preposterous to me to say that a 809 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:04.119 single cell organism somehow mutated enough to become a multi 810 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:08.800 cell organism, then somehow mutated to become a fish that 811 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.920 somehow mutated to become a reptile, that's somehow mutated to 812 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.480 become a mammal that somehow mutated to become what we 813 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.559 have as human beings, or at least Homo sapiens that 814 00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:22.039 then mutated to be Homo sapien sapiens like we are today. 815 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.079 That is so many the. 816 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.039 Ratios the statistics to make that happen isn't even like 817 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.480 one in a million. We're talking like one in a 818 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:36.360 quatrillion shot of all things lining up oh so perfectly 819 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.320 for that to make sense. And if I was to 820 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.400 hand you a pistol and I told you you have 821 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.599 a one in quatrillion shot of this pistol going off 822 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.599 would you say that you have a chance, or would 823 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.400 you say that's a malfunctioning weapon. 824 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.360 I mean I would dodge the question a little bit 825 00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.960 and point out the statistics of having a planet that 826 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.880 we live on that's capable of sustaining life is. 827 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.079 Also one of those like one in a qui drillion, right. 828 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.840 Exactly, which tells me that that's not by accident, that's 829 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.000 by intelligent design. 830 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.400 Do you think that we ever had that we ever 831 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.639 had Neanderthals, and that humans actually intermxan bread with them, 832 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.559 and so that we created an entire new species of 833 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:18.800 quote unquote humans. 834 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.000 I believe Neanderthals existed as well as Australia, Pithecusts and 835 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:29.360 all the other pre human humanoid existences. Yes, but to 836 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:30.960 that point, and then you. 837 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:33.559 Believe that just everybody came from Adam and Eve. 838 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.920 Per our genetic code. Now, yes, that's not even a 839 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.679 questionable thing. Even the most atheistic and secular sources have 840 00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.599 to acknowledge that all humans stem from a mono pair 841 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.239 at one point in time. If they didn't, there's no 842 00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:53.440 way that a black woman from Sub Saharan Africa would 843 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.480 have every single sequence of a genetic code within her DNA. 844 00:40:56.920 --> 00:40:59.920 It's about the mitochondrial eve the theoretical might have. 845 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:02.039 That's not a theory. 846 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.519 That's not a theory though, that's a that's a confirmed 847 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:06.599 scientific fact. So at least we know that we are 848 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.840 all connected. We're talking thousands of years back. At least 849 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.440 all humans on Earth had to come from an original source. Now, 850 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.199 for my religious beliefs, I can believe it's one thing. 851 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.719 For a scientific belief, we could believe another. But we 852 00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:21.320 can't deny the fact that all human beings stem from 853 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.480 a male female pair at one point in time. Now, 854 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.800 was there multiple sets at one point in the ice 855 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.320 age all wipe them out? Was a younger, driest type 856 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.239 of flood situation? Was it a Noah's flood syite situation? 857 00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.519 We could hypotheticalize all these things till the cows come home. 858 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.880 But to say that all humans are connected by genetic code, 859 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.800 that's not a theory to me personally. 860 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.519 That's scientific fact. 861 00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.079 But that doesn't mean that we are all related to 862 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.599 the Neanderthal. That's not to say that we are all 863 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:55.199 related to Australiapithecus. These also are like subsets that we 864 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.679 only recently found evidence to suggest that they even existed 865 00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.280 beyond theories only in the last one hundred and fifty years, give. 866 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.159 Or take all, right, rate flat Earth zero out of ten? 867 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:10.480 Uh hmm. 868 00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:15.159 I actually I wouldn't say that. I would at least 869 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.800 give it. I'm gonna give the argument at least a 870 00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.199 two out of ten. Really, I'm gonna I would rather 871 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.599 stay open to I let me I guess preferences, because 872 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.400 I've never actually said in my where I'm at with it. 873 00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:31.679 I do believe that the Earth is in a circle, 874 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:35.559 but I will say that I am open to having 875 00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:38.360 the conversation and listening to other people there, just like 876 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.119 I am with hollow Earth and different theories. 877 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:42.280 I think it's fascinating. 878 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.880 I think maybe there is a potential argument to be 879 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.039 had on all sides, and so I'm down to hear 880 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:50.320 every side of it. So I at least will give 881 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.159 it the openness to have Alisa too, so that way 882 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.639 I can listen to other people's theories on it and 883 00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:59.440 keep an open mind all right within that too. 884 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.760 What about the concept of infinite land? 885 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.519 Oh, land beyond the ice wall? 886 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.360 Yeah, well, not just land beyond the ice wall, but 887 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.119 infinite land that goes forever, right, because that is one 888 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:16.840 of the many different of the flatter theories that what 889 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.840 happens beyond the ice wall. I mean, there are some 890 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.239 examples where the theory is that it's. 891 00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.920 Infinite land and it's hidden because of real estate prices. 892 00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.199 Right, Yeah, I'm not gonna believe that one. I'm sorry, 893 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:34.920 I'm not zero zero one. 894 00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:36.840 I'm gonna i'm that one. 895 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.239 I'm gonna have to honestly be at a zero because 896 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.480 I do believe in like our solar systems, so we 897 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.280 can't have infinite if we are in a solar system 898 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:50.159 in and of itself, infinite space, I do believe in. 899 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:51.400 It's wild. 900 00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.760 I mean, I know NASA everyone feels, you know, NASA's 901 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.719 faking gay. But I will say if you look at 902 00:43:57.719 --> 00:43:59.800 some of the photos that they've been pumping out, and 903 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.159 I don't know obviously if they're real or not, but 904 00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:04.440 if you're looking at the space photos that they've been 905 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.360 allowing us quote unquote to see that they're getting back 906 00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.679 from the the little robots they sent out like ten 907 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.320 years ago, it looks like it's just infinite. 908 00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.039 To be honest, it's just never ending. 909 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:18.280 The black holes in and of itself, the different own 910 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.280 little universes, that we can kind of see on the 911 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.719 outer edges of the picture, like those are universes within 912 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:25.760 universes and with more universes, and. 913 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.599 It's like it just seems like it's never ending. 914 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:28.519 Yeah. 915 00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.199 Now, with that being said, also, we've had Sean Hibbler 916 00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:33.880 on the show and shout out to him. I love 917 00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.199 him to death, and he was bringing up the fact 918 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.320 that they keep discovering new land on Earth, and I 919 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:41.280 was like, well, what do you mean. They just discovered 920 00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:43.800 like two thousand islands off the coast of China that 921 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.360 weren't on the map ten years ago. 922 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:46.119 What do you make of that? 923 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:48.880 Well, a little bit of research would tell you that 924 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.800 China started dredging the ocean floor and bringing sand to 925 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.599 the service to make sand bars so that they could 926 00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:00.880 claim that they're sea lanes, and therefore their political reach 927 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.280 was further out than it actually was, and they showed 928 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.719 it on the map, and all the two thousand small 929 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.559 little pockets of sand that is technically land that is 930 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.679 technically owned by China, which pushes their economic boundary another 931 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.519 so many nautical miles, except for the fact that that's 932 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.480 not how the nature actually works, and all of those 933 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:23.519 two thousand islands that they just discovered are now back 934 00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:26.280 at the bottom of the ocean, because the ocean's gonna ocean, 935 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.000 and you're not gonna create new land like that without 936 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.880 a fucking up. They did the same thing with Katar. 937 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:35.679 They started dredging the ocean to make these islands that 938 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.800 they could build hotels and casinos on, and they've all 939 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.800 gone to ruin because the upkeep on those do not 940 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.320 justify the amount of costs that it takes to build 941 00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:48.239 them in the first place. So yeah, I don't believe 942 00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:50.360 in infinite land by any means, and I am the 943 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.639 resonant globe tart of the cultic conspiracy. 944 00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:55.400 I have looked very deeply into flat Earth. 945 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.840 We've had so many guests David Weiss more specifically, we 946 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.960 still have a standing bed. If I could prove to 947 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:02.599 him the Earth is round, then he gives me his 948 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.239 three bitcoins. If he proves me the Earth is flat, 949 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.000 I have to get a tramp stamp of his face. 950 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.159 But that's fine. But I've done all this research into it, 951 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.079 and the problem is that with the flat earth community 952 00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:18.039 it falls into two camps. There's some nuances, yes, but 953 00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.719 more often than not, it falls into two camps. Either 954 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.480 A you believe it's flat because of religious dogma and 955 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:25.440 some sort of a scripture that tells you so that 956 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:29.440 you're mistranslating, misquoting, or B you believe it's flat and 957 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.280 you're like three questions away from acknowledging that Hitler was 958 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.400 actually the good guy of World War two. And there's 959 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.760 very free you gray areas between the two on this one. 960 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.960 There is an odd cross over there. We'll have to 961 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.440 explore that on a different episode, but there is some 962 00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:44.679 interesting crossover. 963 00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.159 How about crazy? 964 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:50.480 How about celebrity clones? And let me be clear, I 965 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.920 don't mean that you could clone a celebrity. I mean 966 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.840 that there's like two Jamie Fox's, or there's two fill 967 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.800 in the blank, right, pick your favorite one. 968 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:00.719 There's two Michael Jackson to any. 969 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.880 Of them, and not just that they clone them, and 970 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.199 there's like a baby version, but there's like an adult celebrity. 971 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:11.679 Believe it, yeah, believe it ten out ten? 972 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.159 Yeah, So let me let me ask a little bit 973 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:14.480 about this. 974 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:16.400 Since you're both so convinced that a ten out of 975 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.880 ten on this one, how do you know that you're 976 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.519 going to need a clone of a celebrity before they 977 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.559 turn into a celebrity. What if they're twenty thirty years 978 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.400 away from becoming a celebrity, wouldn't you just have to 979 00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:31.079 be cloning like all these kids? And then once they 980 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.599 don't make it what you just like nix their clone. 981 00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.880 I think cloning technology is not what they tell us, 982 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:41.239 uh Like for instance, the with Dolly the sheep, it 983 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.000 took them years to figure out how to clone a sheep, 984 00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:46.280 but then the it had, they had to age it properly, 985 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.639 and then it died shortly thereafter. They acknowledged that they 986 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.480 were able to successfully clone a sheep in the seventies, 987 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.000 and then they just claimed that, oh, well, that was 988 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.079 a fun experiment. We're not doing anything else with that anymore. 989 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.000 That's that's fucking bullshit. 990 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:00.199 It. 991 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.960 I believe that they could probably clone a human being 992 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:09.519 to be exactly the correct day, age, memory, banks, all 993 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.119 the things of the original. And I also think that 994 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.360 they are fucking it up a lot more often than 995 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:18.280 they're getting it right. I eed Joe Biden. So I 996 00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:21.360 was stationed in DC when Obama was in office. I 997 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:24.960 was within five feet of Joe Biden multiple times, the 998 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.119 fucking guy that was allegedly the president before Trump. This 999 00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.760 last term that was not the same Joe Biden that 1000 00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.440 I served under. I'm gonna be very honest with you, 1001 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.760 and I'm not saying that because he was shorter and 1002 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:38.760 he had a facelift. 1003 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.800 I mean physically, that was not the same human being. 1004 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.280 Dude. 1005 00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.119 I think they absolutely cloned Joe Biden, but they fucked 1006 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:47.320 it up so bad. It's like a printer. 1007 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.480 Think about you printing something but your printer's running out 1008 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:52.880 of toner. I think that's about what happened with the 1009 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.119 latest iteration of Joe Biden. And that's just one example. 1010 00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.599 But I mean, why why would they not give like 1011 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.000 the best version. But like Katie Pierry is a good 1012 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:02.400 one too. 1013 00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:03.880 We've all seen the video. 1014 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:05.840 Where her eye is like sticking and all that, but 1015 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:10.679 people say she's potentially a robot instead. And Avril Levine 1016 00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.920 is a good one as well, where they've said, like, 1017 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.559 you know, they like, look at her face, its slightly changed. 1018 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.400 You know, this isn't the same person. There's quite a 1019 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.000 few of them that they kind of question that are 1020 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.519 they clone or not. I do believe that it's kind 1021 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:25.880 of like the Island of the movie where they're cloning 1022 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.639 people exactly to the time and date they need. You know, 1023 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.119 what happens if one person gets you know what happens 1024 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.719 if they get sick, or they. 1025 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.199 They need parts from something. 1026 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.960 You know, they just have a clone on standby, or 1027 00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.320 they're just interchanging them and they're just like, you know, 1028 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.239 cycling through. 1029 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.480 Yeah, how about that Stanley Kubrick was involved in the 1030 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.880 moon landing in any capacity. 1031 00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:50.639 I'm putting it out a five. 1032 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.159 I do believe that the footage of the first moon 1033 00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:58.480 landing was fake as fuck to say specifically Stanley Kubrick 1034 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:02.320 that was a part of it, possibly, possibly not. I 1035 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.480 you know, he he also was a very prolific director 1036 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.280 during that timeframe, So like, what's to say that he 1037 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.800 was involved as opposed to Scorsese. You, I don't know, 1038 00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:14.840 So I'm not saying that there's no chance. I'm also 1039 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.480 not completely convinced that he was the director. 1040 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.559 But the overarching theme. 1041 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.239 Of if the moon landing footage was fake, yeah, that 1042 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.559 was that was embarrassingly fake. 1043 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:26.639 In my opinion, I believe it's fate too. 1044 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.239 Yeah. 1045 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.320 Now, I do believe we've been to the moon since then. 1046 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:31.920 I don't believe that we made it there in sixty nine. 1047 00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.280 You don't believe Katy Perry went up in space. 1048 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.320 I did. I did for a moment, Is he really? 1049 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:40.039 I did? 1050 00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.039 Because I do believe that rockets are real. 1051 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.199 I believe that going to low Earth orbit is a 1052 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.519 thing that can happen held China. 1053 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:47.480 Oh No, I mean, I mean I believe that we 1054 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:49.840 were going up into I just didn't believe that she 1055 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:50.559 honestly went. 1056 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:53.000 The whole production looked fake as all hell. 1057 00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.320 So before I looked at the footage, I did believe 1058 00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.159 it was probably real. You know, Bezos with all his 1059 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.800 money fund some sort of a dick shaped rocket to 1060 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:03.519 go to space for the fuck of it, just to 1061 00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:07.760 like flex for his fiance. Okay, rich people be doing 1062 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.559 wild shit, Okay, whatever. 1063 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.000 Then I saw the footage. 1064 00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.559 And I'm like, ooh, big big oof on that one. 1065 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:17.719 Uh, it looks very very fake. 1066 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:20.159 And then whenever he runs up to the capsule and 1067 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.360 tries to open it but the door's it's like, all right, yeah, 1068 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:25.719 you could have had me sold until I watched this 1069 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.039 fucker try to open that door and it's like that 1070 00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.960 there's no way, there's no way that that made its 1071 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.760 way back to Earth orbit and it experienced the heat 1072 00:51:33.800 --> 00:51:35.400 and all these things it's been on the ground for 1073 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.559 ten minutes and he's gonna run up bare handed and 1074 00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:38.440 grab that bitch. 1075 00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:40.239 I'm sorry, what are we talking about here? 1076 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:44.039 But to that point, China, just so, they had three 1077 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:48.320 astronauts that were stranded in space right this last week 1078 00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:53.079 this happened. They sent up three astronauts to come grab them, 1079 00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:56.159 and instead they just replace them. So they still have 1080 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.679 three Chinese astronauts that are stranded in space, but they 1081 00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:02.800 just swap them out, so it's new stranded astronauts. It's like, 1082 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.360 my brother in Christ, why didn't you just get a 1083 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.280 spacecraft with six seats and go get these bitches? 1084 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.000 Like why did we have to do this? 1085 00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.679 And so it's like all right, yeah, sure, trying to 1086 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:17.239 be China and as they say, uh, but yeah, I 1087 00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:18.039 don't believe that. 1088 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:19.800 I believe we have been to the Moon at some 1089 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:20.480 point in time. 1090 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.440 Yes, I would be lying if I gave you even 1091 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.280 an estimate of what year that was. But the original 1092 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.840 nineteen sixty nine landing with Buzz Audron and Neil Armstrong 1093 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:31.280 and all. 1094 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:34.760 That, Yeah, I'm sorry, that's was it. Lance Armstrong. 1095 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.960 One of the arm Strongs and Armstrong white boy. 1096 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.559 Yeah, yeah, right where were you on Kubrick being involved 1097 00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:47.519 in the moon landings rale. 1098 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.039 Maybe like four or five out of ten. 1099 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:56.119 I don't Actually, I don't know enough about it to 1100 00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.480 say if he was actually involved or not. I mean 1101 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.960 I assume that he potentially could have been because he was, 1102 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.920 you know, at the time, such a. 1103 00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:07.159 Big director and stuff. 1104 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.239 So, I mean, it was definitely a huge production that 1105 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.840 they created to quote unquote convince everybody that they went 1106 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:16.280 to the moon landing. But it's I don't believe that 1107 00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.559 the actual footage is real, but I do believe that 1108 00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:22.599 we've gone up into space. Now. I am curious about 1109 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.800 the dark side of the moon and what's going on 1110 00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.360 that side. 1111 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.880 But speaking about dark sides, great frazzle drip. 1112 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.760 Ten out of ten, I believe right, no room for there. 1113 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.159 If you look at an EpiPen, they have a warning 1114 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:42.320 label on the side that says, do not use past 1115 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.440 expiration date because it will turn into adrenochrome. 1116 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.480 Have you seen the videos, Oh, I've seen many. 1117 00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.480 I've seen the one with Hillary Clinton cutting that girl's 1118 00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:55.159 face off. Like it's to say that adrenochrome as a 1119 00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:01.400 chemical compound is it doesn't exist. That's completely signed. Typically inaccurate. Again, 1120 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.960 look at an epipin the warning label says it is 1121 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.119 it in Jacob's hot tape. 1122 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:06.719 That's the way science works. 1123 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:08.800 I saw a lot of the videos. I saw a 1124 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:10.679 lot of the dark Web stuff. I had a friend 1125 00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.679 that was able to be on the dark Web and 1126 00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:16.000 like found all this crap and then like sent it 1127 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.039 to all of us. Actually that was pretty much my 1128 00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.760 I wouldn't say my introduction into everything, but that was like, 1129 00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.320 while I was like being red pilled, but I pretty 1130 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:26.880 much just got like, you know, throat fucked with black 1131 00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:27.639 pill instead. 1132 00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:29.639 So wow, I was like, whoa. 1133 00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:31.719 It was a lot all at once. 1134 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:38.519 I was like, man, you go right to frazzle drip. 1135 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.239 It's kind of like jumping right to the deep end 1136 00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.559 when you're learning how to I mean, it was. 1137 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.760 Like, hey, by the way, there's some shit that I 1138 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.920 think because you know, I've always questioned stuff. 1139 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:49.280 But I was just living my peaceful life. And then 1140 00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:50.039 my girlfriend was. 1141 00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:51.679 Like, Hey, I have some shit I need to talk 1142 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.599 to you about, and like came over and dropped I'm 1143 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.239 not even exaggerating, like one hundred and fifty files like 1144 00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.000 uploaded them to my phone and like I need you 1145 00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:02.199 to just start right here. 1146 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:04.280 It happened to start right with. 1147 00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:07.000 That, and I was like, yeah, oh okay, so we're 1148 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.880 just going into this and then like I saw tons 1149 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.519 of different footage and videos and then like all the 1150 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.239 Epstein videos. 1151 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.159 I don't know, I don't know a lot of people. 1152 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:18.599 I've asked other people, have you actually seen like the 1153 00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:22.280 fit the camera of the security and like you actually 1154 00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.639 scrolled in on it and looked at the actual Like 1155 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.000 as it was rolling, you saw the different sections of 1156 00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.440 the monitors and stuff, and you could see different things 1157 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.719 that were going on in each one. And like we 1158 00:55:33.159 --> 00:55:34.840 there was a whole bunch of different stuff that we 1159 00:55:34.960 --> 00:55:37.440 watched that now just doesn't exist. 1160 00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:40.000 It's just gone. And people like I didn't what are 1161 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:40.440 you talking about. 1162 00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:41.880 I didn't see that, And I was like I watched 1163 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.079 it with my own abbolls, like I saw this. 1164 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.480 But and this is before AI was as hot and 1165 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:47.480 popular as it was. 1166 00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.239 This is like real, this is like twenty nineteen. Yeah, yeah, 1167 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:52.719 so it was like live. It was different stuff that 1168 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.559 I mean, we I started seeing different things, but like 1169 00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:58.440 as more information came out, like she had tons of 1170 00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:01.920 stuff that she would just send to me and then 1171 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.519 we would we've tried to find it and then her 1172 00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.679 phone did a hard reset in like twenty twenty one, 1173 00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:12.079 her phone automatically updated and everything was gone. Yeah, all 1174 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.440 of it, all the stuff that we were just we 1175 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:15.920 were just talking about this the other day, I me 1176 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.800 and her trying to find all this stuff because I 1177 00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.199 was like, well, I want to bring it to the cult, 1178 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.920 but we can't find any Yeah. 1179 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:26.000 I mean, and I'm not saying what the reason behind 1180 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:30.280 the adrena chrome and frazzle drip market is. I mean 1181 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.400 to say it's used for recreational drug uses. Yeah, that's 1182 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.159 absolutely a possibility. To say that it has a youthful 1183 00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.199 regenerative properties and that's how the the elites are staying 1184 00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:47.280 young for forever. It's possible. I don't know, or they're 1185 00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:49.599 just clones themselves. I don't know. But to say that 1186 00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:54.840 adrena chrome slash brassl drip the the conversation behind that, 1187 00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:55.239 that is. 1188 00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:57.280 One a fact to me. As a matter of fact. 1189 00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:58.760 I think so as they're coming up. 1190 00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.199 On Thanksgiving season, I am that uncle that's sitting at 1191 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:05.239 the corner of the table that's just ruining everybody's lives. 1192 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:06.840 Whenever they ask me some wild shit. 1193 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.039 Because they know that I'm a professional conspiracy theorist, so like, so, Jacob, 1194 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:11.960 tell me, what do you think about this? 1195 00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.400 And I'm like, dude, I'm just trying to eat. I'm 1196 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:15.920 just trying to. 1197 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:19.440 Get down that cornbread stuff and gross. 1198 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:23.639 No, no, no, you know, we just did a Thanksgiving thing. 1199 00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:26.599 But it's like, you know, I just want to eat 1200 00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.079 my food without ruining everything, untelling the kids. There's no 1201 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:32.559 Santa Claus, right, But like last Thanksgiving, as a matter 1202 00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:34.440 of fact, one of my uncles, who is a very 1203 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:39.400 well educated man, asked me about Adrina Chrome and I'm like, 1204 00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:42.920 all right, there's no way for me to explain this. 1205 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:44.719 To you without ruining your day. 1206 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.000 So I mean, I'm down to explain this to you, 1207 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.199 but understand that you're gonna feel disgusting at the end 1208 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:51.480 of this. 1209 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.119 And he's like, oh no, man, I want to hear. 1210 00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.760 I want to hear by the end of it. 1211 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:57.280 When I was telling him that, like Epstein Island is 1212 00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.440 not the worst place these children could have ended up. 1213 00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.079 If anything, that was the g rated island. For what 1214 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.880 else is going on around the world. He's over here 1215 00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.039 looking at the whole world, in the whole new light 1216 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:08.840 and I'm like, brother, I didn't want to do this. 1217 00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.679 I just wanted to eat some pig. I wanted to 1218 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:13.719 because we do a pig roast every year for Thanksgiving. 1219 00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.280 I just wanted to eat. You know what I'm saying. 1220 00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:17.320 But like, I'm down to explain this to you. And 1221 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:17.880 here we are. 1222 00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.960 Now, this is the thing you can't unhear. So happy 1223 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.000 things you haven hemmy. 1224 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:29.599 In the twenty first century. On a scale from one 1225 00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:32.719 to ten, how much are Mason's running things? 1226 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:34.000 Good question? 1227 00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:37.199 You know a lot about this, So I'm gonna let 1228 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:38.239 you take the lead on that one. 1229 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:40.159 I will put it at a. 1230 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:48.480 With all grace and with all levity here I'm putting 1231 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:53.960 it out of solid three out of ten. Honestly, the 1232 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:56.880 wealthy elites of the world might all be a part 1233 00:58:56.920 --> 00:58:59.360 of some global cabal, and some of them might be 1234 00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.519 free Masonans. Do they do not have the same poll 1235 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:04.920 that they used to have, like by any stretch of 1236 00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:05.559 the imagination. 1237 00:59:05.679 --> 00:59:07.559 If anything, the Freemasons used. 1238 00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.239 To be a Yes, they were used for indoctrination of 1239 00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.639 certain things, but that was also seen as a way 1240 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:15.960 to kind of weed out and find the cream of 1241 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.639 the crop that could be brought into the actual deep 1242 00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:22.559 circles of what was running the world. These days, they 1243 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:24.760 really don't need the Freemasons because I mean, if you 1244 00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:27.840 look at the number of Freemasons around the world, their 1245 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:31.760 numbers are dwindling more now than ever. Before the nineteen 1246 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.920 forties and fifties was like their peak. Most dudes do 1247 00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:38.960 not want to go and spend every Tuesday or Thursday 1248 00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:42.599 night at the Mason's Lodge to discuss what new fundraiser 1249 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.800 or what new budget meeting they have to figure out 1250 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:46.880 for the next quarter. 1251 00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.079 Right, it's not what it once was. 1252 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.800 The dudes at the very tippy top might have some 1253 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:55.239 sort of a background as a Freemason, but it's not 1254 00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:57.639 the powerhouse that it once was, that's for sure. 1255 00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.920 We actually saw the Masonic Temple in Philly. 1256 01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:04.960 Yeah, yeah, we just went to Philadelphia as a matter 1257 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:07.599 of fact, for the two fiftieth Marine Corps birthday. Raven 1258 01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:09.360 Lee and I are both Marine Corps veterans, so it 1259 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.800 was a big deal. And I didn't know this, but 1260 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:17.119 Philadelphia has the number three free and accepted Mason's Lodge 1261 01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.000 on Earth. Number one is in London, Number two is 1262 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:24.280 in Dublin. Number three is in Philadelphia. That's the lodge 1263 01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:26.639 where Benjamin Franklin was based out of, and a lot 1264 01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:29.159 of our founding fathers as a matter of fact, So 1265 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.960 that was pretty interesting. If you've ever seen these lodges 1266 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.440 in your local town, you'll see number eight hundred and 1267 01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.880 thirty two FF and M or whatever the case is, 1268 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:44.079 that's that lodge. They all have a charter number. The 1269 01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:49.079 number three ever actually founded on Earth is in Philadelphia, 1270 01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:50.440 which is mind blowing to me. 1271 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.519 I agree with the three three out of ten. I 1272 01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:57.440 don't think they have as much power as they once said. 1273 01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:00.679 I do see though, quite I feel like I see 1274 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.679 quite a few people down here in the South that 1275 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:04.679 have the free Mason. 1276 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.480 Logo in their car, on their car and stuff. There's 1277 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:08.039 quite a few. 1278 01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:10.559 Now, with that being said, do you mean blue side 1279 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.920 freemasonry or white side free masonry? These are two different conversations. 1280 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:18.800 What do you mean by white side freemasonry? 1281 01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:20.880 All right? All right? 1282 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.639 So you see the Masonic logo right the compass in 1283 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:27.800 the square, and it's in a field of blue. Right, 1284 01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:31.760 have you ever seen that logo in a field of white? 1285 01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:37.039 The answer is probably not in the United States. The 1286 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.840 reason is because they don't offer that in the United States. 1287 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.440 So with Freemasons, you have to understand that, yeah, there's 1288 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.039 thirty three degrees in both Scottish and York, right, but 1289 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:51.440 when you get more towards the esoteric and more occult 1290 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.280 sides of freemasonry, they have three hundred and sixty degrees. 1291 01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:56.760 As a matter of fact, that is only offered through 1292 01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.679 white side free masonry. And I hate to break it 1293 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.320 to any Americans, we are peasants compared to the European 1294 01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:06.920 royal classes of old, and those are the only ones 1295 01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:08.840 that even get the tap on the shoulder to go 1296 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:13.800 into whiteside free masonry. I've only seen one in my 1297 01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:18.199 entire life, and that was in Washington, d C. Which 1298 01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:20.519 would stand the reason when I was stationed there for 1299 01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:24.000 four years, and that goes up to three hundred and 1300 01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:27.280 sixty degrees. But at that point you are full well 1301 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.760 dealing with straight up occult practices, like it's not even 1302 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:33.480 in the realm of like, oh, it's just tradition, it's 1303 01:02:33.519 --> 01:02:36.280 just how it's always been done. No, you know exactly 1304 01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.079 who you're worshiping and what you're here to do kind 1305 01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:42.719 of thing. Primarily, you'll see that in England and France. 1306 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:47.519 You'll see it a few small pockets in Germany, maybe 1307 01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.320 in Ireland and Scotland, but primarily in England. 1308 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.039 So do those dudes run the world. 1309 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:57.760 Yeah, But it's also to a level that most freemasons 1310 01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:00.800 say is not real and most people don't even know exists. 1311 01:03:02.719 --> 01:03:03.360 How about the. 1312 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:08.440 Whole old world history and the World Fairs, and that 1313 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.039 when the first explorers that came to America, the buildings 1314 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.880 were already here and they started knocking them down, as 1315 01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.800 opposed to they started building them. 1316 01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.320 You want to go first? Zero out of ten, sir, 1317 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:26.400 zero out of ten. The World's Fairs conversation. I've heard 1318 01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.920 these people talking about like Tartaria. Tartaria was what we 1319 01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:33.800 would now call Mongolia, and most maps will show the 1320 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:39.039 far northeastern section of Asia as Tartary or Tartaria, and 1321 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:42.639 the people there still call themselves the Tartars to this day. 1322 01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:45.840 As far as the World Fairs go, to say that 1323 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.000 how do they erect this city in such a short 1324 01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.079 amount of time? Then it all went away so quickly, 1325 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.480 that's nothing new. As a matter of fact, King Henry 1326 01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:57.000 the fifth or the eighth, I forget which one actually, 1327 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.440 he and the Dauphine of France built a city within 1328 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.599 a matter of a week, a massive city with palaces 1329 01:04:03.639 --> 01:04:04.320 and everything else. 1330 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:05.880 It was basically cardboard. 1331 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:09.480 It was tapestries and two by fours essentially, and they 1332 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.239 built this as a way to flex on each other 1333 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.039 and then for a tournament instead of war, and then 1334 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:15.840 it was all said and done. It got torn down 1335 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.360 within the matter of forty eight hours. So to say 1336 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:21.239 that in the early nineteen hundreds and early or late 1337 01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.119 eighteen hundreds, we had the technology to erect a basic 1338 01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:28.119 movie set to give a show to people and then 1339 01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.840 tear down right after. Yeah, that's that's not crazy to me. 1340 01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:33.800 You see all these old buildings and they're like, yeah, 1341 01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.280 well those buildings are actually like four thousand years old 1342 01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:38.920 when they got to America. Those are already there, except 1343 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.239 that there is no record or even a myth or 1344 01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:44.119 a story from the Native American tribes that inhabited that 1345 01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.960 area of that building. And even if they don't have 1346 01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.320 a written record, they would have had an oral tradition 1347 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.119 talking about the Great Stone Temple or whatever the case. 1348 01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:55.679 There's not even one iota of facts behind it. Then 1349 01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.559 cut too, you could find records and blueprints of the 1350 01:04:58.559 --> 01:04:59.800 building being constructed. 1351 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.440 You can find the contractors, you can find stories. 1352 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.239 Hell, half the time, you can find pictures of it 1353 01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:08.000 when it was halfway through construction. So yeah, to say 1354 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.400 that these old buildings and the Tartaria and the mud 1355 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:14.480 flood and all these things, I put that all to 1356 01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:15.559 a zero out of ten. 1357 01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.800 Personally, what do you think about it? I'm curious what 1358 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:19.599 your thought is. 1359 01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:21.840 I'd probably put it at a zero. 1360 01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:22.679 Yeah. 1361 01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:26.280 Yeah, Now I'm curious because you said, like all of 1362 01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.199 that mud flood to Tartarya all that. So there's a 1363 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:29.960 few things that get roped into that I just want 1364 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.159 to delineate. Or these also zeros. One is giants, that 1365 01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:40.079 the trees might be giants, or that stone like rock 1366 01:05:40.119 --> 01:05:43.599 faces might be giant heads giants. 1367 01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.400 I put it a ten out of ten. Petrified trees, 1368 01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.960 I'm putting out a ten out of ten. The Devil's 1369 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.559 tower or whatever it is to say that that's the 1370 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:56.360 stump of an ancient petrified tree, I'm putting that at 1371 01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:58.760 a zero out of ten. I'm willing to shift on 1372 01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:00.719 that one as well, I should say, but there's been 1373 01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:01.440 so many. 1374 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:03.599 My neighbor is a geologist. 1375 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:06.280 She studies rocks as a career, and we talked about 1376 01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.199 that one day and she broke down scientifically. How while 1377 01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:11.800 it might seem like that's crazy as fuck, there's actually 1378 01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.760 a very logical, natural explanation behind it. 1379 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.440 There's caveats to each of these. 1380 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.760 I don't believe that giants and tartaria need to necessarily 1381 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.880 be in the same conversation, but a lot of people 1382 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:24.679 rope these into it. 1383 01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:26.960 The same thing with it's the same with flat Earth. 1384 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.800 There's like eighty five conspiracies that get roped into flat Earth. 1385 01:06:30.800 --> 01:06:32.760 And it's like, brother, how many mental hoops did you 1386 01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.800 have to jump through to make one plus one equal 1387 01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:37.440 five on this scenario? But like here we are having 1388 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.119 this call right now side Yeah for sure. 1389 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:44.840 Okay, And then how about the concept of cathedrals. Are 1390 01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:50.119 these these old buildings where somehow antennas or energies, harvesters 1391 01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.360 or that old cities were you know, circuit boards, you 1392 01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:54.119 know I'm talking about. 1393 01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:57.719 Yeah, I'm not gonna say a zero out of ten 1394 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.519 to say that a cathedral. I guess we could call 1395 01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:05.239 it like a energy antenna right in some way, shape 1396 01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:08.119 or form, And then we could look at the architecture itself, 1397 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:08.760 and we looked. 1398 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.079 At right, but not just saying that like the people 1399 01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.840 inside the building have energy and therefore the resident Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 1400 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:17.920 I'm talking about like it's tapping into the iona sphere 1401 01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:22.639 and like drawing energy in some ancient technology sort of way. 1402 01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:26.400 Kind of yes, kind of no on this one. 1403 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:31.559 And I'm so I actually attended mass at Notre Dame 1404 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:33.880 in Paris at one point in time, and I've. 1405 01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:34.159 Been to you. 1406 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.800 Do I know, did you see who set the fire? 1407 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:39.440 No? 1408 01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.599 I was there in twenty eleven and twenty twelve. 1409 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.000 I actually attended a mass there in twenty eleven, and 1410 01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:45.199 that was by accident. 1411 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.840 While I was in the Marine Corps. 1412 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:49.840 I served from ten to fourteen, right, and we happened 1413 01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:51.719 to go to Paris for a week and we were 1414 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:53.440 only there for two hours worth of work, so the 1415 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:55.760 rest of the time we were partying our faces off, 1416 01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.280 and it was a great time. First time we were there, 1417 01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:01.239 we ended up starting at Noture and you could see 1418 01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.320 the Eiffel Tower from anywhere in the city, and we 1419 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:05.920 asked the local because everybody there speaks English. By the way, 1420 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.800 it's a it's a worldwide tourist attraction. Everybody in Paris 1421 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.880 speaks a very very good English. I might add and 1422 01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:14.360 we're like, so, how far is it from the Eiffel 1423 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:15.920 Tower to here? It's kind of hard to judge distance. 1424 01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.319 He's like, oh, it's not walking distance, it's like ten miles. 1425 01:08:18.319 --> 01:08:20.840 And I'm like, brother, it's noon, we don't have to 1426 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:21.840 be back till midnight. 1427 01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:23.119 Let's take a walk. 1428 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:25.239 So we got lost in Paris ten out of ten 1429 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:27.199 most fun I've ever had in my life. We discovered 1430 01:08:27.199 --> 01:08:30.239 the Arctotriumph, we discovered the Loop, which the Mona Lisa 1431 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:31.640 is so not what it's cracked up to me. 1432 01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:33.279 It's the size of a fucking textbook. 1433 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.359 But whatever, Yeah, I shit you not, it's the actual 1434 01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:41.359 size of like a textbook. All that hype for that 1435 01:08:41.439 --> 01:08:43.119 piece of shit if. 1436 01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:44.560 That was even the real one. 1437 01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.760 If right, I don't think it is actually. 1438 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:47.560 But either way. 1439 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:51.159 So we started at the at Notre Dame and I 1440 01:08:51.159 --> 01:08:53.720 didn't realize that it was Sunday because the travel time 1441 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:55.640 and everything else. We just kind of was doing our thing. 1442 01:08:56.239 --> 01:08:58.359 And when we walked in it's like there's a full 1443 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:02.520 on museum exhibit going on around the mass, Like while 1444 01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.319 these people are sitting in the chairs and then the 1445 01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:06.359 pews and doing the prayers and the homilies and shit, 1446 01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:09.079 there's people walking around the outside taking pictures of the 1447 01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.640 stained glass, and so we went in there as tourists. 1448 01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:15.479 But I was like, bro, when in my life am 1449 01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.439 I ever actually going to attend Mass at Notre Dame ever? 1450 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:20.119 Again? 1451 01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.479 So I said, And like I said, I was raised 1452 01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:25.159 Catholic until I was twelve. But it's the same metrics 1453 01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:28.479 whether it's French or English. Sit neil bendstand, do the 1454 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:32.520 nice and Creed, do the our Father him him communion, 1455 01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:34.960 sitneil band and you're out that bitch. So like it 1456 01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:36.640 was no big deal, you know, you go through the 1457 01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.640 motions most Yeah, totally such a workout. 1458 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:42.159 Uh. 1459 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:45.960 But so being in that space and attending a Mass 1460 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.640 at Notre Dame versus attending a Mass at your local 1461 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:55.920 Catholic church in Louisiana, completely different vibe. Now, maybe that 1462 01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:58.840 was because I was swept up in the grandeur of 1463 01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:03.359 being in this so historical cathedral. It's very possible, but 1464 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:06.439 I also feel like there's something extra to it. Honestly, 1465 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:10.079 I mean, even going to the National Cathedral in Washington, 1466 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.600 DC or the Old Cathedral in New Orleans as a 1467 01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:15.880 matter of fact, it's there's something more that goes along 1468 01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:23.399 with that. But energy maybe maybe yes, or it's just 1469 01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:26.039 the vibes in general. When you see the stained glass 1470 01:10:26.039 --> 01:10:28.399 and you see the vaulted ceilings, and you see the 1471 01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.399 artwork and the pipe organ dudes wailing on that bitch. 1472 01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.479 It's a whole it's a whole spiritual experience, right, even 1473 01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:36.760 if you're not Catholic, you go to a mass and 1474 01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:38.439 you can't help but feel like. 1475 01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.960 There's some sort of movement here and like that's fine. 1476 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.479 But I don't know if I would put it towards uh, 1477 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:51.520 necessarily energy harvesting, But I can't negate that possibility. 1478 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:51.840 Either, honestly. 1479 01:10:53.439 --> 01:10:56.159 So what you what your. 1480 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.439 Maybe four three and a half. I'll put it at 1481 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:00.000 three and a half. 1482 01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:03.640 It's in Yeah, I'd say at least a four. No, 1483 01:11:03.960 --> 01:11:05.840 I'd say at least a four. I think there's something 1484 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:10.840 to it. I think that there potentially could be. I 1485 01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:12.960 think there's a lot to do with energy that we 1486 01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:19.239 that is lost in time, the information purposely lost to us. 1487 01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:22.279 And so because free energy definitely is not something that 1488 01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:23.359 they want to have happen. 1489 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.039 H Okay, I got I got three left. 1490 01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:29.279 Well, I think if on the tail end of that 1491 01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:34.199 one Atlantis, like like the Platonic Atlantis, that that was 1492 01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:37.800 a legitimate place a philosophical experiment. 1493 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:40.279 You want to take that one first or me? 1494 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.560 No, go ahead, you you you have opinions on atlantis. 1495 01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:51.840 So so I believe that the Plato's Atlantis probably existed, 1496 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.760 but he was telling a story off of the story 1497 01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:57.960 off the story, probably like eighty generations away from the 1498 01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:59.319 actual true Atlantis. 1499 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:01.399 And I do. 1500 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.319 Believe that Doggerland was more than likely the actual site 1501 01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:06.159 of Atlantis. 1502 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:07.800 You know what Doggerland is, brother? 1503 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:13.640 No, Okay, So before the younger Dryest, somewhere between fourteen 1504 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:16.800 thousand BC and twelve and a half thousand BC, and 1505 01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:20.399 I'm being very generous with that wide berth, there was 1506 01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:23.439 a land bridge that connected Mainland Europe to Britain and 1507 01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:27.159 Mainlane Europe to Sweden and fill in in Norway that 1508 01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:31.760 section was. We're calling it Doggerland these days, mostly because 1509 01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.359 the type of ships that dredge that area for fishing 1510 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:37.840 are called dogger ships. They were dredging and they found 1511 01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:41.399 a harpoon, and you know, it seemed like a very 1512 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:45.000 old harpoon, so it's very interesting. It was carbon dated 1513 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:48.640 to twelve and a half thousand BC, and there's obvious 1514 01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.640 etchmarks on it to say that a civilization, not just 1515 01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.560 some Neanderthal hunter gatherer groups built this, Like no, this 1516 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:58.520 had religious significance to it as well, like they blessed 1517 01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.800 this harpoon before they were using it to hunt. 1518 01:13:01.399 --> 01:13:02.119 And that's dope. 1519 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:05.640 But the issue is that they were arguing about the 1520 01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:08.800 carbon dating practice. The problem is that Doggerland itself is 1521 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.720 a peat bog, which, if anybody knows anything about archaeological 1522 01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:18.039 digs in peat bogs, it is extremely good at preserving artifacts. 1523 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:20.640 So they didn't have to question if they were off 1524 01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:23.720 by ten or twenty thousand years. They could damn near 1525 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.800 put it to the month of when that thing was lost, 1526 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.399 or at least when this area got flooded underwater. So 1527 01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:35.880 when you look at Plato's description of Atlantis, he says, 1528 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:38.960 once you leave the Straight of Gibraltar, you make a turn, 1529 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:42.399 and it's just he gives very brief descriptions. He doesn't 1530 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:44.079 say you turn left, he doesn't say you turn right, 1531 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:47.159 he doesn't give cardinal directions. He says you turn out 1532 01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.520 of the Straight of Gibraltar, and after a ways you 1533 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.479 find Atlantis. Could that be hypothetically once you make your 1534 01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.039 way around mainland Europe and you get to the northern 1535 01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:58.359 side of it, or could that be when you turn 1536 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.560 left and you make your way more or towards like 1537 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:03.600 the Ivory Coast in Africa. I think both they're plausible. 1538 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.359 But whenever you look at the for lack of better words, 1539 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:11.840 the census of this, whenever written history finally made its 1540 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:15.039 way to central and northern Europe, there's no way that 1541 01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.880 there should have been that many people that was inhabiting Europe. 1542 01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:21.159 If you look at their basic agricultural needs, there's no 1543 01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:23.800 way that that much land could sustain that many people 1544 01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:24.239 per the. 1545 01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:26.079 Day and age, but they did. 1546 01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.840 The theory goes that a massive tidle wave that came 1547 01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:34.159 from a glacial breakoff in Norway caused a massive tidle 1548 01:14:34.199 --> 01:14:38.439 wave that sent Doggerland underwater, which led the thousands and 1549 01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:43.199 thousands of thousands of people to leave from this land 1550 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:46.920 mass to the northernmost part of Europe, which would be 1551 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.520 where a lot of Indo European people get their start 1552 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:52.119 from as far as that's concerned. And I think that 1553 01:14:52.119 --> 01:14:55.479 that story got told into the realm of myth, into 1554 01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:58.000 the realm of legend, into the realm of lore to 1555 01:14:58.079 --> 01:14:59.319 Plato who wrote it down. 1556 01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:03.079 Finally, so Atlantis. Do I believe it exists? Yes? 1557 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.279 Do I believe that they had flying craft and computers 1558 01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:09.439 and technology that is far beyond our understanding today. 1559 01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:10.680 No, not so much. 1560 01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:15.960 I want to believe that it's real. But that's also 1561 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:19.680 I'm super into fantasy books and stuff like that, so 1562 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:23.520 like my fantasy heart is like, I just want it 1563 01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:26.119 to be real. I do agree with him that I 1564 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:29.920 think that it potentially could have been. It probably was 1565 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.880 a real location, and that there is historical precedence to it. 1566 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:39.319 But obviously a lot of a lot of cultures believed 1567 01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:43.640 in signs from the gods, and it turned into Lure 1568 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:47.199 and miss and it changed how things were. Like, you know, 1569 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.079 if it was raining outside and all of a sudden 1570 01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:53.840 there was a breaking the skyland, this is gonna be 1571 01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:57.319 the this omen's happening. And so potentially if there was 1572 01:15:57.479 --> 01:16:00.399 a type of tsunami that wiped out this location, it 1573 01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:02.920 could be turned into all different kinds of things which 1574 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.880 turned into Atlantis. I want to believe that they had 1575 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:10.000 some awesome cool stuff. I do think that there was 1576 01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:14.159 potentially technology that we've had that we got hard reset 1577 01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:17.279 a few times as a human civilization, and they kind 1578 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:20.960 of just reset us. But I don't know for certain 1579 01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:23.239 if Alantis is real, but I will say I want 1580 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.840 to hope that it was, just because honestly, it's kind 1581 01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:27.560 of a cool story. 1582 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.479 But into that conversation, like, for instance, a lost technology. 1583 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.680 Given another one hundred years, I bet most, if any 1584 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:37.600 Americans will know how to hook a plow up to 1585 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:41.439 a mule and plow a field, because we'll all have 1586 01:16:41.479 --> 01:16:43.359 tractors and will have better ways to do it. So, 1587 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:47.600 per definition, hooking up to a mule will become lost technology, 1588 01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.159 and they'll look back at our anserts like they were 1589 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:53.279 so advanced, they were so enlightened. You mean, they were 1590 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.680 doing the best of what they had. And just because 1591 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:57.600 you're not smart enough to figure out how to do it, 1592 01:16:57.640 --> 01:16:59.600 that doesn't mean they weren't smart enough to figure out 1593 01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.640 how to do it. So, like the lost technology quote 1594 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.079 unquote Moniker is a very broad brushstroke that a lot 1595 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:10.399 of people immediately assume means flying crafts and computers and shit. 1596 01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:14.159 But that's per our modern first world interpretations, you know 1597 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:14.720 what I'm saying. 1598 01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:19.359 Just a couple more here, how about Gomatria and I 1599 01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:22.079 don't mean that it exists, because it clearly exists. But 1600 01:17:22.560 --> 01:17:25.199 you know when someone's like, this person was born on 1601 01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:27.560 this date and their name adds up to this and 1602 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.079 the new mountain Dew came out, and if you add 1603 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:32.560 the letters up a mountain dew and all they all connect, 1604 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:36.960 how much credibility do you give that someone's actually finding 1605 01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:39.840 some kind of a source code or a pattern and 1606 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.039 it's not just coincidences that they're linking together on their own. 1607 01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:48.600 I put that to a solid, solid zero point five 1608 01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:49.079 out of ten. 1609 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.119 Oh, that sounds anti Semitic, my friend. 1610 01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:54.720 So, like you said, I'm not denying that the Fibonazi 1611 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:57.680 see is real and that right, Oh, I'm such an 1612 01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:59.880 israel Plant that I'm denying Gomatri. 1613 01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:03.359 I know that he's an FBI agent bro. 1614 01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:06.319 In the same on the same episode I my dad, 1615 01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:10.600 I got called a Christian nationalist, a Nazi sympathizer, and 1616 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.079 an ultra Zionist. 1617 01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:13.239 At the same time. 1618 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.760 And it's like, I guess, yess you can be Your 1619 01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:19.520 collecting badge is like pokemones. 1620 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:20.680 That's pretty much what's happening. 1621 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:22.680 What I've learned is that haters are gonna hate, and 1622 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:24.960 taters are gonna potate and I'm just out here trying 1623 01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.560 to make a book. But beside the point, uh so, 1624 01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.079 Goamatria is real as far as the math that goes 1625 01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:35.000 along with our words. And there's the English gamatria, there's 1626 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.479 the Hebrew gamatria, there's there's all types. There's all different types, right, 1627 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:44.760 and me, with my background in instrumentation, I learned binary code, hexadescimal, octadesimal. 1628 01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:48.279 So to say that words also have numbers designated to them, 1629 01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:50.199 I'm with that one hundred percent. I'm not saying there's 1630 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.439 nothing to it, but to say that there's instantaneously a 1631 01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:57.159 connection between well, if you look at Bill Clinton and 1632 01:18:57.279 --> 01:19:01.119 God is love and Adolph Hitler sucks, they all equal 1633 01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:04.279 the same thing. Although NAUGHTI confirmed it's like no, no, 1634 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:07.239 stop that stop there right now, Like that's that's silly. 1635 01:19:07.319 --> 01:19:07.680 I could. 1636 01:19:07.920 --> 01:19:10.479 It's interesting, and it's fun to look at the connections 1637 01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:12.760 when they do play in and they do line up, 1638 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:15.600 it's fun. I don't use that as like a basis 1639 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:17.479 to go off of, like cannas Olwens does. 1640 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:20.159 I don't know, no, but I know, you know, like 1641 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:21.319 you know that's. 1642 01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:23.600 Really can just be crashing out all the time. 1643 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:26.319 Dude. I used to respect her so much and I 1644 01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:27.000 love to her. 1645 01:19:28.119 --> 01:19:32.199 I respect her journalistic depths to a degree that there's 1646 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:36.520 a level of respect there. But man, ever since Charlie 1647 01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.720 went down, she is out of her goddamn mind. 1648 01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:46.319 She doesn't feel like she's going to be next. 1649 01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.920 You know with Cannas, though, is that she was. She's 1650 01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:51.720 in this weird position where she's kind of growing up 1651 01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:54.960 on camera, not like from a child, but her big 1652 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.279 thing was that she was a brand new, recent convert 1653 01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.960 from being left wing to right wing and got popular 1654 01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:03.119 because of that because she's like, hey, I'm a you know, 1655 01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:07.119 a black conservative, and she basically becomes like a minor 1656 01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:10.920 celebrity through doing that. And during that transition, she didn't 1657 01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:12.920 also get to be like and I've looked in the 1658 01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:14.960 Ruby Ridge and I've looked in the Waco and nin eleven, 1659 01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.479 Like she didn't do all the things. She just went, hey, 1660 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.920 I'm a conservative. And now the camera's on her, and 1661 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.319 now I feel like we're all slowly watching her go 1662 01:20:22.439 --> 01:20:25.600 through like first and second and third grade, and it's like, 1663 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.479 you know, she like she believes in Santa still, so 1664 01:20:28.479 --> 01:20:31.600 she needs to go through the same phase as everyone 1665 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.079 else did, but maybe everyone else got to go through 1666 01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.560 those when they were like, I don't know, fourteen fifteen, 1667 01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:39.159 or like in their mid twenties, and now she's just 1668 01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.880 kind of a late bloomer. So there's a lot of scrutiny, 1669 01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.000 but I feel like she's kind of feeling her way through, 1670 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:48.159 Like she the second she starts finding like Fritz Springbuyer's 1671 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:48.760 work and she's. 1672 01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.239 Like, have you guys heard about this project monarch thing? 1673 01:20:51.720 --> 01:20:54.760 Like it's the old news to us, but it's gonna 1674 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:56.199 be new to her at some point. 1675 01:20:56.439 --> 01:20:59.720 She from what I can tell, she goes where the 1676 01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:02.960 click and that's all I'm gonna say on that, and 1677 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.840 that you know, I mean, take that to whatever level 1678 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:06.880 and depth you want it to go. And as a 1679 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.279 content creator, which I hate that term, but I get it, 1680 01:21:09.880 --> 01:21:12.640 I get it, I get it. I don't hate her 1681 01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:15.760 for the crazy shit she's saying, but I also and 1682 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:18.399 I'm not gonna call her a grifter, even though she 1683 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:21.319 will find ways too. As she is ranting and raving 1684 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:26.119 about one of her lifelong best friends dying publicly and 1685 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:28.600 all this, she'll like find ways to interject her own 1686 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:32.319 ad streams like that play into the conversation she's having. 1687 01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:34.439 But like, I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna 1688 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:35.359 call her a grifter. 1689 01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.239 That's fine, thinking of next shots. We've got this great 1690 01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:42.239 new hello fresh uh fork neck recipe. 1691 01:21:42.680 --> 01:21:46.399 Bro It's it's crazy in and of itself. But and 1692 01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:49.079 when you look at her, she makes some very wild 1693 01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:53.760 claims backed by nothing except her sources, and she wishes 1694 01:21:53.800 --> 01:21:55.439 she could tell you about them, but she's not gonna 1695 01:21:55.479 --> 01:21:57.840 tell you about them. And then when there is one 1696 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.159 thing out of the thousand things she just said that 1697 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:02.479 comes out to be true, she's over here, like with 1698 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.039 that meme with the dude with the champagne bottle, sprang 1699 01:22:05.079 --> 01:22:07.119 it all over everybody like he just won. He's like 1700 01:22:07.319 --> 01:22:09.920 the eighth winner, like eighth place and the whole thing. 1701 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.159 So this is the nostro domus approach, right, Pretty the 1702 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:16.319 thousand things, get one right, and people remember you for 1703 01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:17.199 the one thing you got. 1704 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:19.039 Right exactly exactly. 1705 01:22:19.079 --> 01:22:22.600 And so I would be shocked if some other wild 1706 01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:25.479 shit doesn't happen on the news that she doesn't also 1707 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:27.600 find a way to capitalize on. 1708 01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:28.560 That's all. 1709 01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:29.960 She's strategically smart. 1710 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.640 I'll say that when it comes to being able to 1711 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:36.399 captivate her audience and keep the ones that because she 1712 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:39.479 has lost a lot of followers over the last few 1713 01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:42.000 years because of some of the wild shit she says 1714 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:46.079 and how she consistently flops back and forth between different things. 1715 01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:48.680 She has lost a lot of people, but she's been 1716 01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:49.239 able to. 1717 01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:53.720 Capitalize on current events and clickbait kind of things and 1718 01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:56.199 be able to talk about that stuff and keep the 1719 01:22:56.239 --> 01:22:57.479 audience that she has. 1720 01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:59.319 They're like die hard. 1721 01:22:59.479 --> 01:23:02.640 Can't so fans kind of like the kind of like 1722 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.920 Trump for example, or like Kamal like they're people are 1723 01:23:05.960 --> 01:23:09.600 like die hard. They are not going no matter what 1724 01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:12.439 these people are saying, they're not gonna question it. So 1725 01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:16.079 she's smart in that regard of being able to capitalize 1726 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:16.880 on people. 1727 01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:19.119 That want to hear her at all times. 1728 01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:22.479 And that's everything she says is wrong. I believe her 1729 01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:25.479 with Brigitte ma Chron being the dude, I one hundred 1730 01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:27.600 percent believe that. I just think she went off the 1731 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:31.760 rails on Charlie Kirk honestly worried you out on Matria. 1732 01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:33.039 Did you ever get a rating? 1733 01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:35.960 Oh? 1734 01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:39.279 I think I'll I don't know, I think I'll give 1735 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:41.840 it like at least the three Okay, I'll give it at 1736 01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:43.960 least the three. It's one of those things of I'm 1737 01:23:43.960 --> 01:23:47.119 not going to discredit it completely. I'm gonna listen to 1738 01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:49.479 other people that have more knowledge based on it than me, 1739 01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.800 and I'll dig into it and do more research and 1740 01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:54.279 eventually come to a conclusion. 1741 01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:57.159 But I really there's some subjects that I. 1742 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.640 Don't have a vast amount of knowledge, and I don't 1743 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:03.239 like to completely shut out my thoughts yet until I 1744 01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:06.000 actually listen and read a lot of stuff on it. 1745 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:07.880 So I'm right now I'm giving it. 1746 01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:10.600 A three tell yeah, all right, last one, last one. 1747 01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:12.279 This one's got a little bit of a qualifier, but 1748 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.079 just because I want to make sure I ask it 1749 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:17.319 in a certain way, so I'll kind of clarify it. 1750 01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:19.720 But here's a situation that. 1751 01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:25.520 A twelve year old atheist slash agnostic kid, girl or boy, whatever, 1752 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:29.640 goes on Amazon and searches how to Summon a Demon? 1753 01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:33.359 Sorts by best sellers. The top best seller is called 1754 01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:37.079 how to Summon a Demon for Dummies. Right they order it, 1755 01:24:37.079 --> 01:24:41.199 it gets printed on demand by some machines, so there's 1756 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.199 not like an occultist writing it in blood or anything. 1757 01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:45.199 It just gets spit out by a printer and then 1758 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:47.640 it gets like overnighted to him. He opens that book up, 1759 01:24:47.720 --> 01:24:51.399 reads it over the weekend, recite some of the things 1760 01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:54.399 that are in it one to ten that that kid 1761 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:56.760 has a chance of actually summoning a demon. 1762 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:01.720 Have an opinion on this, but I would love to 1763 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:05.920 hear you yeah, because yours is, I believe, because it 1764 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:09.399 has to be in uh Latin correct, It has to 1765 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:11.319 be specifically in Latin. 1766 01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:14.079 It's felt out phonetically so that even if the kid 1767 01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.279 doesn't know what he's reading, he's saying real Latin phrases. 1768 01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:20.319 And I guess the reason for all these qualifiers is 1769 01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:24.079 that I'm trying to remove that the person doing it 1770 01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:26.920 is like an evil person with evil intent in their heart. 1771 01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:30.000 It's just a non biased person that's just kind of. 1772 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:33.319 Like the same way you could accidentally make nitro glysser, 1773 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.319 and if you had all the right ingredients, could you 1774 01:25:35.479 --> 01:25:39.880 accidentally summon the demon or intentionally but without having like 1775 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:40.760 hate in your heart. 1776 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:42.960 Hmmm. 1777 01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.119 I want to let you start because I know I 1778 01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:48.600 kind of already have already know where you're gonna go 1779 01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:54.119 with us. Well, please, I guess I think that you 1780 01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:59.239 could accidentally dabble in forces that you don't want to 1781 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:02.880 find yourself too. I know that specifically sing in demon 1782 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.640 you need like certain qualifiers to get to that point. 1783 01:26:07.079 --> 01:26:10.640 But I do think that there is enough evil in 1784 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:14.279 this world that even that you could accidentally find yourself 1785 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:20.199 in a position where you're having some demon force or 1786 01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:23.680 something that is going to be like, you know, questioning, hey, 1787 01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:25.960 what's up, you know, what do you want kind of thing. 1788 01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:26.479 Yeah. 1789 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:28.920 I don't know if he could actually summon a full demon, 1790 01:26:29.039 --> 01:26:31.119 but maybe some type of evil force. 1791 01:26:31.760 --> 01:26:35.960 Sure, And I agree with that. That's kind of where 1792 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.079 I'm coming from on this one. 1793 01:26:37.239 --> 01:26:40.359 So when I was in the Marines, I had a 1794 01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:42.600 group of boots and it was my job to make 1795 01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:44.159 sure that they clean the common areas. 1796 01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:45.039 All right, cool. 1797 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.560 These fuckers decided to take a mop bucket and mix 1798 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:51.720 like eight different types of cleaning materials into it, and 1799 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:53.960 then out of nowhere, there was a weird, funky smell 1800 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:56.840 and a yellowish greenish gas that was coming out of 1801 01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.319 the mop bucket. One of their dads happened to be 1802 01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:01.680 a chemist for some company, and he called his dad 1803 01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:02.560 and asked him what happened. 1804 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:05.439 These fuckers accidentally made low grade mustard. 1805 01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:08.000 Gas, ammonium bleach right. 1806 01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:10.399 Right, So, and it's not rocket science, but they were 1807 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:12.279 ignorant and they didn't know what they were doing, but 1808 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:15.680 they almost killed themselves as a result. Now take that 1809 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:18.279 to the spiritual realm, and it's not like these people 1810 01:27:18.279 --> 01:27:21.159 were out there. My Marines were not out here trying 1811 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:24.760 to build poisoned by any means. They were not trying 1812 01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:27.640 to poison themselves or the platoon. They were trying to 1813 01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.239 do good. But they were really fucking dumb about it. 1814 01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:33.479 If somebody doesn't know what they're doing when it comes 1815 01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:36.520 to the spiritual realm, they can absolutely start dabbling in 1816 01:27:36.600 --> 01:27:38.960 something that they don't understand. The same conversation could be 1817 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:41.680 had with a wigi board, right, you get a bunch. 1818 01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:43.520 Of high school kids get together, Hey, somebody's got a 1819 01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:44.960 wigi board. Oh, let's pull it out. 1820 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.479 And none of these people are inherently trying to worship 1821 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.359 Satan and they're not trying to do anything equal. 1822 01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:50.880 They're just fucking around with the wigi board. 1823 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:54.119 But the problem is, once you open that door, you're 1824 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:56.199 gonna have a real hard time trying to close it. 1825 01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:58.840 Because as far as the spiritual side of things goes 1826 01:27:59.319 --> 01:28:02.119 one of these again, because I believe that we live 1827 01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:05.359 in a very binary world with very few areas of gray. 1828 01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:08.039 Of the two sides of spirituality, we have the side 1829 01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:09.600 of light and the side of dark, the side of 1830 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:12.920 good and side of evil. Right, one of these sides 1831 01:28:13.479 --> 01:28:17.640 is clamoring and clawing and fighting and scraping to get out, 1832 01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.960 and the other side is wide open asking for you 1833 01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:23.680 to come in. So when you open the door for 1834 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:26.560 the side that is clawing and scratching to get out, 1835 01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:30.000 something's gonna answer you. Whether you intended for that to 1836 01:28:30.039 --> 01:28:32.199 be the case or not. I fully believe that that 1837 01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:35.800 is an actual thing. So whether somebody gets summoning a 1838 01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:40.399 demon for dummies and they accidentally you know, this person 1839 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.359 is not inherently evil. They're not out here trying to 1840 01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:46.239 summon a demon to kill anybody or to get a 1841 01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.680 Faustian bargain where they're going to sign their name in 1842 01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:50.520 blood for fame and fortune or whatever. 1843 01:28:51.119 --> 01:28:54.000 If you're trying to contact a demon, oh you're gonna 1844 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:57.000 contact one, and your ass is gonna be in a 1845 01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:00.399 sling for something that you didn't actually agree to, but 1846 01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:02.920 you ended up being on the hook for it. Anyway. 1847 01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:04.520 One hundred percent believe that's real. 1848 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:10.439 Do you think that something that we could film like 1849 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:14.800 a thousand people in an auditorium, They all do Ouiji boards, 1850 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:18.000 they all sign up for blood packs with demons and 1851 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.920 everything and just keep them like fishbowl style or Big 1852 01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:21.920 Brother style. 1853 01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:24.479 Just constantly on camera. A paranormal activity. 1854 01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:27.319 You think if on a long enough sample size, we'd 1855 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:32.159 be able to capture demonic entities or like a demonic 1856 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.199 possession actually happened. 1857 01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:42.039 On film, uh possession, possibly a demonic entity on film. No, 1858 01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:44.840 I don't believe that our cameras work at that angle. Again, 1859 01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:48.880 I've seen a demon multiple times for years and years. 1860 01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:50.159 I know what it looks like, I know what it 1861 01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:51.840 smells like, I know what it sounds like. 1862 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:54.399 No camera was going to pick up on this by 1863 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:56.319 any means, but your human eyes would have been able 1864 01:29:56.359 --> 01:29:59.880 to pick up on it. So I don't believe that 1865 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:02.640 even with a long enough test being done on a 1866 01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:06.239 sample size, all of them actively working to contact demons. 1867 01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:08.760 I don't believe they're gonna manifest into a physical form 1868 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:10.399 that could be picked up on human cameras. 1869 01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:12.880 No, you don't think that maybe they could pick up 1870 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.760 on the energy at least from it oh. 1871 01:30:15.760 --> 01:30:18.039 Are we talking about cameras. You're talking about e MPs. 1872 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:20.319 We're talking to something. 1873 01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:23.479 Heat vision, you've got infrared, you've got light r you've 1874 01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:24.119 got everything. 1875 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:28.039 Well, when you look at like these ghost hunters that 1876 01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:30.479 go out and they film content of them with these 1877 01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:34.439 spirit boxes and whatever else, it's basically a radio that's 1878 01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:36.399 tuned to a frequency that's not going to pick up 1879 01:30:36.399 --> 01:30:39.920 on your regular, regular FM or AM radio stations. But 1880 01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:42.880 that doesn't mean that there's not radio frequencies operating at 1881 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:46.600 the frequencies that it's tuned into. Hell, you can look 1882 01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:48.920 at a Ham radio and how that shit operates. Then 1883 01:30:48.960 --> 01:30:51.239 you watch how these people are picking up on spirit boxes, 1884 01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:54.640 and it's like you're picking up stray radio sound waves 1885 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.159 that was out there in the ether. Regardless, it doesn't 1886 01:30:57.199 --> 01:30:59.520 inherently mean that it's a soul trying to talk to 1887 01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:02.199 you through an electronic means from the other side. 1888 01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:05.239 Have you seen the guy that actually goes to the 1889 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:08.159 graveyards and he does this all the time, and they 1890 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:11.399 like do different and he has like a huge TikTok 1891 01:31:11.439 --> 01:31:13.720 following in an Instagram following, and he goes out there 1892 01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:16.880 and they communicate with him in various ways, and he 1893 01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:19.079 goes out and like cleans the graveyards and stuff. 1894 01:31:19.319 --> 01:31:24.239 I think, I think it's great content for sure. 1895 01:31:24.479 --> 01:31:27.640 It gets some of the ghosty area though, right, And 1896 01:31:27.640 --> 01:31:27.960 then he. 1897 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.239 Like if he pisses himself, Oh, it's that goplasom. It's like, no, 1898 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:34.039 I don't know. 1899 01:31:34.079 --> 01:31:35.800 I don't want to sound like a dickhead here, but 1900 01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:39.960 there's there's tons of examples of something of the whatever. 1901 01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:44.439 There's tons of examples of spiritual things coming through or 1902 01:31:44.479 --> 01:31:47.079 trying to reach out from the other side. And then 1903 01:31:47.119 --> 01:31:49.159 there's tons of people that are trying to get it 1904 01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:52.800 for comments and clicks and likes and subscribes and that 1905 01:31:52.960 --> 01:31:54.600 It is the same thing I have with mediums. 1906 01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:55.000 Right. 1907 01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.520 I'm not saying that mediums are all hoaxers by any means. 1908 01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:00.960 What I'm saying is Hollywood. 1909 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:04.199 Medium and Long Island medium, anybody who's profiting off of 1910 01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:08.479 their medium abilities are probably full of shit. And for 1911 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:11.119 the record, I'm not just throwing shade towards that community 1912 01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.479 any pastor or preacher that is out here. I do 1913 01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:16.600 believe there are pastors and preachers that are doing the 1914 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:18.560 Lord's work and they're not trying to get rich and 1915 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.039 famous off of it. But if you got a pastor 1916 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.720 that is out here making eight figures a year because 1917 01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:26.560 they're preaching the word of God, I'm gonna tell you 1918 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.760 he's full of fucking shit. The same level of disdain 1919 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.520 that I have for Long Island Medium I have for 1920 01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:34.439 Kenneth Copeland. 1921 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.560 If anything, I got more for Kenneth Copeland. 1922 01:32:36.560 --> 01:32:40.399 Actually, have you seen the lady that does the drawings. 1923 01:32:39.880 --> 01:32:43.279 Like she ohes crying, she does like the drawings, and 1924 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.159 she'll post the pictures she has like a whole bunch 1925 01:32:46.199 --> 01:32:48.479 of them, and she's like, do you know this person? 1926 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:51.760 Have you ever seen this person? And then actually people 1927 01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:56.479 will eventually she finds, people find her actually, and then 1928 01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:58.880 it's crazy. I watch one of them where this lady 1929 01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.399 was like, that's my my uncle and she actually showed 1930 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.399 the pictures side by side. It's identical and like they've 1931 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:08.439 never met and all this stuff. I think that's really fascinating. 1932 01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:11.319 Do you believe that people can have any type of 1933 01:33:11.399 --> 01:33:14.600 spiritual connection or like they are able to feel their 1934 01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.319 loved ones with their like their presence near them after 1935 01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:21.079 they passed, or you know, king you do they have 1936 01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:23.479 a connection while they're living, Like can do you think 1937 01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:26.640 that they have, like, for example, my grandma and me. 1938 01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:30.119 I knew when my grandma was so my grandma had 1939 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:33.079 a heart attack and I was very very close to 1940 01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.359 my grandma, and I woke up in the middle of 1941 01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:37.000 the night and I. 1942 01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:39.079 Knew something was wrong, and I knew something was going to. 1943 01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:41.640 Be wrong that day and I and I called every 1944 01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:43.720 single person I knew that was close to me, and 1945 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.239 everyone's like, no, no, I'm fine, And I called. I 1946 01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:48.000 talked to my grandma that morning and I was just 1947 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.760 I couldn't get this nagging feeling to go away. And 1948 01:33:50.800 --> 01:33:53.199 then about like nine o'clock in the morning, I was like, 1949 01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.359 something is really wrong with my grandma. And I kept 1950 01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:58.439 calling and calling, and I called my mom and she 1951 01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:01.239 lived in Idaho, and so everyone thought I was crazy. 1952 01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:04.479 I ended up calling the fire department because I was like, 1953 01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:07.680 I know in my heart something is really wrong. I 1954 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:09.680 can feel it. And lo and behold, she had a 1955 01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:11.399 heart attack and she was sitting, she was laying on 1956 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:13.560 the floor, and they actually ended up having like break 1957 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:16.000 down her door and stuff. And my grandma would tell 1958 01:34:16.039 --> 01:34:19.479 people like that. She would say that we have which 1959 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:20.920 blood in us, and that. 1960 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:23.159 A Christian m. 1961 01:34:24.479 --> 01:34:28.600 Yeah, that but she believed that we had I'm. 1962 01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:30.840 Sorry, Christian, which blood right. 1963 01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:33.840 Of course, yeah, so there, but she believed that we 1964 01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:37.319 would have that we had spiritual blood I guess, but 1965 01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.279 which blood in us, and that it passed down from 1966 01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.880 different generations and it's in that it's old blood, that 1967 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.840 we could have some kind of connection stuff. 1968 01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:48.479 But she would believe that. 1969 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.239 And so leading up to my grandma's death, I actually 1970 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:54.239 dreamed it for months and months, and I kept telling 1971 01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:56.680 her to go to the doctor, and I kept nagging 1972 01:34:56.720 --> 01:34:58.920 at her, and finally I had a dream that was 1973 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:02.880 so intense, like I woke up in pure sweat anxiety, 1974 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:04.760 and I knew my grandma was going to die within 1975 01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:07.399 like the next month, and I told her, I said, 1976 01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:09.479 you were going to go to the doctor tomorrow. Lo 1977 01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:12.159 and behold she had stayed stage four cancer. She died 1978 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:15.399 three weeks later. And same thing with my dad. I 1979 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.600 dreamed leading up to his death, and I knew that 1980 01:35:17.640 --> 01:35:20.760 he was going to die, and he ended up passing 1981 01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:23.760 like very quickly. And it's just one of those scenes 1982 01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.000 of I don't know if that's I don't know what 1983 01:35:26.079 --> 01:35:28.560 to call that, but I mean, I'm curious what your 1984 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.399 your thoughts are because I've met a lot of other 1985 01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:34.239 people that have types of premonitions or spiritual connections to 1986 01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:36.800 people where they can feel spirits around them. 1987 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:40.479 So with a spiritual connection like that to somebody who 1988 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:44.640 was still living, absolutely absolutely, and maybe there's blood ties, 1989 01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:48.239 maybe there's entwined souls, whatever the case might be. 1990 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:50.239 I absolutely agree with you heard. 1991 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:52.720 Those about twins sometimes too, right, where like twins that 1992 01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.119 are separated even might even know about each other, that 1993 01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:58.239 they go through these same feelings and they'll link back 1994 01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:01.000 up later in future, and have made like a lot 1995 01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:02.279 of the same decisions. 1996 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.039 Yeah, but those are fascinating. I think they're so amazing. 1997 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:06.680 Agreed. 1998 01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:11.079 Now, once this person has passed on, and I can't 1999 01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:13.600 say one hundred percent one way or another on this 2000 01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:16.479 because at this point I'm speaking from a place of ignorance. 2001 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:16.960 Right. 2002 01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.039 The only experience I have with this would be with 2003 01:36:19.079 --> 01:36:23.359 my grandmother, who I thought was still coming and visiting 2004 01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:26.520 me in her spirit form after she died. Come to 2005 01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:29.159 find out it was my demon that was presenting itself 2006 01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:32.079 as my grandmother, and it took about two years for 2007 01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:34.319 it to show its true form to me. But I 2008 01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:36.520 understand that that's a one off case, and I get 2009 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:40.560 that having a spiritual connection with somebody while they're still alive, 2010 01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:44.119 I absolutely agree with a one hundred percent. Once they 2011 01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:46.640 pass on, and once their soul goes for judgment and 2012 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.640 goes up or down or left or right or wherever 2013 01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:51.279 the case might be, I feel like their soul was 2014 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:53.760 in their final place. Why would they come back to Earth. 2015 01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:56.279 What difference does it make to them? They're in the 2016 01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:59.520 correct spot. I believe that we should not be making 2017 01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.399 an attempt to contact the dead either. Necromancy, in my opinion, 2018 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:08.079 is completely wrong start to finish. Simply, it's real. I 2019 01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:11.239 believe it's absolutely real. I believe we just shouldn't be. 2020 01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:11.880 Fucking with it. 2021 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:14.119 And for that same principle, I don't believe that the 2022 01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:16.880 dead are trying to reach out to us to tell 2023 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:20.159 us things, because what would be the point of that either, 2024 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:25.359 even if it was to help us. There's this it's 2025 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:29.359 like a double entendre within the spiritual community that the 2026 01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:32.119 dead are trying to reach out to us to communicate 2027 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.239 with us. But the journey you're on and the things 2028 01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:36.600 you're experiencing are things that you need to experience to 2029 01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:37.840 get to the next place in life. 2030 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:39.640 So which one is it? 2031 01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:41.359 Is it that the spirits are trying to guide us 2032 01:37:41.439 --> 01:37:42.800 or is it that we are supposed to make these 2033 01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:45.119 mistakes and experience it for ourselves, because two can't be 2034 01:37:45.159 --> 01:37:48.319 true at the same time on this one. So, having 2035 01:37:48.319 --> 01:37:51.720 a spiritual connection with people while they're still alive, absolutely agree. 2036 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.079 Having that connection resonate even for a week or so 2037 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:57.640 after the case, going through the morning process. I'm not 2038 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:01.439 gonna say that's complete bullshit. But ten, fifteen, twenty years 2039 01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:03.640 after the fact of somebody passing away and you feel 2040 01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:08.119 like you're still having a communication or a conversation with 2041 01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:09.159 your dead relative. 2042 01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:12.560 I don't want to sound like a dickhead here. 2043 01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:15.880 Not necessarily demon all demons. 2044 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.079 But how much of that is made up in your 2045 01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:19.279 own mind as a part of the morning process or 2046 01:38:19.279 --> 01:38:20.840 things that you didn't put to rest. 2047 01:38:21.199 --> 01:38:23.199 And I'm not saying that is in a demeaning way. 2048 01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:24.319 I don't I don't think. 2049 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:26.520 I don't know if I fully agree with you, because 2050 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:30.520 I've had definite experiences. So my Grandma's been gone seven 2051 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:35.960 years now, and there are times when I get a 2052 01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:42.079 full body feeling like I'll smell her perfume out of nowhere. Sure, 2053 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:43.960 there's nothing in my house that smells like it. I 2054 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:45.880 do have some clothes like in my closet and stuff, 2055 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:49.800 but like I'll get like that, that faint whiff of 2056 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:54.079 her smell. She had very distinct taboo is what she wore, 2057 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:58.119 so the taboo smell, and I'll just get this feeling 2058 01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:01.119 of like her presence is with me, and it will 2059 01:39:01.119 --> 01:39:01.560 not last. 2060 01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:04.199 Psychology courses, a good number of them. And you know 2061 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.560 that smell is a insane trigger to mental places in 2062 01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:10.520 your mind, so smelling her perfume might put you in 2063 01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:12.960 like your happy place, so to speak, or a memory 2064 01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:13.239 of all. 2065 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:17.000 But nothing is in my house that should be smelling 2066 01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:19.439 like that at that time. It's like it comes out 2067 01:39:19.479 --> 01:39:23.359 of nowhere, associated with this presence that I feel, And 2068 01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:25.880 it's not I'm not talking at lasts all day. I'm 2069 01:39:25.880 --> 01:39:29.119 talking that. It could be a minute, it could be 2070 01:39:29.239 --> 01:39:32.239 five minutes, and then it's just gone. And it doesn't 2071 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:34.880 happen all the time. It comes and goes, and and 2072 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:37.800 sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night 2073 01:39:37.880 --> 01:39:41.600 I'll suddenly feel like I'm dreaming about her, and then 2074 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:45.840 I'll feel a presence. Now me being super overly cautious 2075 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.760 because I just I know that there are I feel 2076 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:49.760 that there are dark. 2077 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:50.760 Entities in this world. 2078 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:54.359 I'm hesitant to interact either way because I'm like, I 2079 01:39:54.359 --> 01:39:56.479 am not one hundred percent certain what this is. I 2080 01:39:56.600 --> 01:39:58.840 feel like this could be my grandma. But I also 2081 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:02.399 am not about to be like, yo, hey, how's it going. No, 2082 01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:05.159 just just in case, I'm just not going to do that. 2083 01:40:05.640 --> 01:40:10.439 But I feel like she comes and goes every so often. 2084 01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.359 It's it's not super often, but I feel like that's 2085 01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:16.880 the thing, and I've read and met lots of people 2086 01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:19.760 that also have those experiences. Now, I don't know, I 2087 01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:22.920 don't believe she's guiding me in any sort of fashion. 2088 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.640 It's just almost like a sense of like you're not alone, 2089 01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:30.439 like hey, just thinking about you kind of vibe, and 2090 01:40:30.439 --> 01:40:31.359 and then it's just gone. 2091 01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:34.199 It's just like boof, out of nowheer. What do you think? 2092 01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:34.640 I mean? 2093 01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:36.159 I also don't know how to call that. 2094 01:40:36.680 --> 01:40:38.479 I mean, what do you think about it? 2095 01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:39.479 All demons? 2096 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:44.000 All demons, that's it, all all demons. No. 2097 01:40:43.800 --> 01:40:46.920 No, I think that what you were describing before about 2098 01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:49.119 having like I want I don't want to say premonition 2099 01:40:49.159 --> 01:40:50.960 is probably the wrong word, but like having like a 2100 01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:55.720 feeling this I don't know, it's just like scientifically documented. 2101 01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:58.680 But there's so many of these cases where there's the 2102 01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:01.520 cat or the dog and old retirement home and it 2103 01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:03.279 will go in like sit down at the end of 2104 01:41:03.319 --> 01:41:05.760 the bed in front of someone like a week or 2105 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:08.880 a night before they pass on. So it does seem 2106 01:41:08.920 --> 01:41:14.359 that clearly there's some other sensory perception that is capable 2107 01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:17.640 by other animals that can tell when something's going to happen. 2108 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:20.039 So it'd be crazy to think that like, oh no, no 2109 01:41:20.159 --> 01:41:22.800 cats and dogs, that's just it's just a weird coincidence 2110 01:41:22.840 --> 01:41:25.800 that they have this ability. So to say that a 2111 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:29.319 human being couldn't also tap into that same thing, who knows. 2112 01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:32.119 I think it's there's not a really easy way to 2113 01:41:32.279 --> 01:41:35.800 monetize it yet, so therefore it doesn't have any valid 2114 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:39.920 reason for industry to prove that it exists. As soon 2115 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:41.800 as someone can figure out how to make a buck 2116 01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:43.880 off that, then all of a sudden, there'll be scientific 2117 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:44.560 proof about it. 2118 01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:47.600 There's gonna be so many studies for decades they've been 2119 01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:49.640 doing under the radar, they're going to come to light. 2120 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:50.520 Yeah, I feel that. 2121 01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:53.439 I think the dream realm is a really interesting because 2122 01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:56.319 I dream super intensely, and I always have. 2123 01:41:56.680 --> 01:41:58.479 I'm so jealous of you for that. I'm not only 2124 01:41:58.600 --> 01:41:59.520 dream once or twice a. 2125 01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.640 Year from all of the dreams, though, I have died 2126 01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:05.840 so many different ways, so many different ways throughout him. 2127 01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:08.920 Because I am so unafraid of death, and you are, 2128 01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:11.319 like you're trying your hardest to not die. You have 2129 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:13.319 died in so many ways and dreams, you feel like 2130 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:14.399 you're be used to it by now. 2131 01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.920 Honestly, I'm one of those people, and I will say, 2132 01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.800 if there is a way that I could live forever, 2133 01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:20.840 I would totally do it. 2134 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:23.520 Oh hell no, I know that he is totally the opposite. 2135 01:42:23.520 --> 01:42:26.840 But I just perked up somewhere. It's like, oh. 2136 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.000 Yo, now I'm gonna get a demon tonight and be like, 2137 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:33.000 you know what, I'm not fucking with you, boy. Like 2138 01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:37.920 I will say, I've had a few times like, yeah, 2139 01:42:37.960 --> 01:42:42.600 I've had some experiences like where my bed has dipped hard, 2140 01:42:43.199 --> 01:42:46.359 and like I know that just like I'm not acknowledging 2141 01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:49.680 this whatever is going on, because like I know you're there. 2142 01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:52.640 But it's also like nip, we're gonna put my feet 2143 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:54.600 back on a blanket. We're just gonna act like this 2144 01:42:54.840 --> 01:42:55.760 is okay, Like. 2145 01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:58.439 You're like that part of Haunted House at the like 2146 01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:01.000 he's reading the paper gets flown for hey man, why 2147 01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:05.520 I can get me some newspaper coffee? 2148 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:06.680 Were the demon? 2149 01:43:07.479 --> 01:43:10.159 It's pretty much that vibe of like I've had that 2150 01:43:10.680 --> 01:43:15.720 chill of like, yeah, something's really not right here. But 2151 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:19.399 I'm also like not going to engage with you because 2152 01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:20.159 fuck off. 2153 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.079 So like I'm not I'm not playing this whole game 2154 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:23.359 with you. 2155 01:43:23.479 --> 01:43:26.199 But there's been some stuff, so I'm not saying that 2156 01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:28.880 like this is a whole thing. I'm just willing to 2157 01:43:28.880 --> 01:43:31.840 have the conversations with people and listen to their experiences 2158 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:34.119 and just keep an open mind about you know what, 2159 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:36.039 There's so much shit we just don't know. 2160 01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:41.479 So I'm I'm just here to listen to everyone's experiences. 2161 01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:42.479 To be honest with you, if I didn't have the 2162 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.600 background that I have with the experiences that I have 2163 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:49.840 had firsthand, I probably would have a fifty to fifty 2164 01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:52.640 spread on this one. It's it's because of my experiences 2165 01:43:52.640 --> 01:43:55.479 in my past with the demon attachment that I had 2166 01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.319 and the angelic attachment that I've had to where that 2167 01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:01.680 has formed my opinion on that. But I absolutely understand 2168 01:44:01.680 --> 01:44:03.479 why people would have a difference of opinions, And this 2169 01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:07.840 is not something that I. 2170 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:07.640 Want to like fight someone over. 2171 01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:09.960 If they disagree with me on it, they are more 2172 01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:12.960 than entitled to their opinion on this. This is just 2173 01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:16.039 what I have come to within my own experiences, to 2174 01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:16.920 this conclusion. 2175 01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:19.319 But everybody's entitled to their opinion. I should make that 2176 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:20.159 caveat a. 2177 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:21.720 Lot of people hear my demon story and think that 2178 01:44:21.760 --> 01:44:23.560 I'm out of my fucking mind. I'm like, brother, I 2179 01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:25.960 wish I was. That would make so much more sense 2180 01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:26.439 on this shit. 2181 01:44:27.359 --> 01:44:28.800 I mean, I've been into it. 2182 01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:30.880 The only place that I've ever went that I was like, 2183 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.920 absolutely made my entire skin crawl and I wouldn't even 2184 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:36.840 actually step foot in it. We went to in a 2185 01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:40.880 scene asylum, an abandoned a scene asylum, and it was 2186 01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:43.359 like a whole thing, and you know, we're nineteen years 2187 01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:45.960 old and stuff, and everyone's like, let's go in there. 2188 01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:50.159 Because teenagers are so smart, Like, clearly some evil shit 2189 01:44:50.279 --> 01:44:52.439 happened here, let's go in get it. So like a 2190 01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:54.600 lot of Scooby Doo Dog, a lot of. 2191 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:58.039 Evil shit actually happened at this particular one and I 2192 01:44:59.079 --> 01:45:01.000 knew kind of the history it, but I'm like, you 2193 01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:04.720 know what, no big deal, like whatever. As we get 2194 01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:07.840 closer and closer and closer to it, my stomach starts 2195 01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:08.520 to turn. 2196 01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:10.119 More and more and more, and. 2197 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:13.159 I'm like at the point where I was like I 2198 01:45:13.279 --> 01:45:17.319 might actually vomit. My I'm sweating, My skin was like crawling, 2199 01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:20.479 and I was like, you know, I just really don't 2200 01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:22.920 think that I want to particularly go in this thing. 2201 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:26.000 And everyone's like, you know, because I love horror movies 2202 01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:28.119 and I love all that stuff, and everyone's like, there's 2203 01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:30.640 no way that you're terrified, and I was like, it's 2204 01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:33.680 not that I'm terrified. It's like that I'm physically getting 2205 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:37.880 ill even like going up to this place that it 2206 01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:42.239 just seems so evil and just so much dark energy 2207 01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:45.560 that was surrounding the building in and of itself that 2208 01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:47.920 I just didn't want to even go near it. I 2209 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:49.680 got to like the edge of the gate, and I 2210 01:45:49.760 --> 01:45:52.479 was like, you know, it's one of those things of 2211 01:45:52.520 --> 01:45:55.720 like do I want to go in there, not particularly 2212 01:45:55.720 --> 01:45:57.680 at this point. And like people that went in there, 2213 01:45:57.760 --> 01:45:59.760 there was a whole he was a huge group of people. 2214 01:46:00.319 --> 01:46:04.199 Of those people, quite a few people came back out eventually, 2215 01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:08.439 like terrified obviously, because your mind runs and you create 2216 01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:10.880 scenarios in your own mind of things that you've seen and. 2217 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:11.399 Stuff like that. 2218 01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:14.159 Sure, but there was quite a few people that like 2219 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:17.439 as weeks when they had on they talked about having 2220 01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:19.760 really bad nightmares and they were just having really bad 2221 01:46:19.800 --> 01:46:22.640 experiences and like, man, I keep having all this stuff 2222 01:46:22.680 --> 01:46:25.560 happened to me, And I was like, yep, I'm not 2223 01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:27.960 saying that there was evil attached to you. All I'm 2224 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:30.640 saying is that my ass ain't going inside that building. 2225 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.079 So we had a very experience in DC. 2226 01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:38.239 Some of my buddies found out about this old pediatric 2227 01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:40.960 insane asylum in Maryland that was abandoned back in like 2228 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:48.279 the forties, like old rundowniatric say like like insane basies children. Yeah, 2229 01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:52.000 so for anybody at the time, they did some research 2230 01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:54.560 into this. Basically, this place was for sixteen and under 2231 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:59.880 that were clinically insane, and it was ran by nuns 2232 01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:05.560 of course, and there was so much controversy surrounding this building, 2233 01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:08.560 in this this institution that he got shut down. So 2234 01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:11.239 one of my guys that was stationed there was a 2235 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:13.720 local to Maryland. We were station in DC. It was 2236 01:47:13.760 --> 01:47:15.920 about a two hour drive away from where we were stationed, 2237 01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.119 so they decided they were going to go out there. 2238 01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:21.079 The problem is, for some reason, this insane asylum to 2239 01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:25.760 this day is guarded by cops and National guardsmen. Now 2240 01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:28.760 I have no idea why there is actual National guard 2241 01:47:28.760 --> 01:47:30.319 that are posted there twenty four to seven. 2242 01:47:30.760 --> 01:47:31.960 I you do an episode on it. 2243 01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.399 Oh, I wish I could, but I don't know the 2244 01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:35.840 name of this place. I could reach out to some 2245 01:47:35.880 --> 01:47:37.159 guys and see if they could give me the name, 2246 01:47:37.199 --> 01:47:39.439 to be dope. But these fuckers just because the only 2247 01:47:39.479 --> 01:47:40.760 way you can get to it is if you go 2248 01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:43.199 you have to park off of the highway, you have 2249 01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:45.199 to walk through the woods a couple of miles, and 2250 01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:47.000 then you get to one of the side gates that 2251 01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:47.800 have been torn open. 2252 01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:52.359 Okay, right, yeah, drone you got a drone in there? Bam. 2253 01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:56.000 Well, So this is circa twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and 2254 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:58.800 we were broke ass e three's nobody could afford the 2255 01:47:58.880 --> 01:47:59.880 drones that could have done that. 2256 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:02.199 We could do it now, we. 2257 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:05.399 Could, right, So these fuckers decided to go inside and 2258 01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:11.840 start taking uh mementos of their trip. 2259 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:13.159 Uh. 2260 01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:16.960 Somebody took a little doll. Somebody took a record player, 2261 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:20.720 a little miniature one. They brought it back to the barracks. 2262 01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.000 Every single dude that went on this trip started having 2263 01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:29.000 the exact same nightmare on repeat every night for three months. 2264 01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:32.359 So they threw all the shit away and moved on 2265 01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:34.000 with their lives. And I'm like, well, what the fuck 2266 01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:36.439 did you think was gonna happen? You dix like this? 2267 01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:38.479 Would you do? You think this is Scooby Doo real 2268 01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:39.079 life like? 2269 01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:42.640 But yeah, so they learned the hard way that there 2270 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:45.800 is something of the spiritual variety that we just can't explain, 2271 01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:48.439 and it's best if we just don't fuck with it. 2272 01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:50.479 But they did show me some pictures of the place, 2273 01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:53.319 and granted, like the building was like super dilapidating all 2274 01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:55.880 like the uh the wallpaper was like curling off the 2275 01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:57.960 walls and shit, it looked really ominous. 2276 01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:00.319 Just if it was a horror movie set, it would 2277 01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:00.800 look dope. 2278 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:03.399 But then when you find out what all took place 2279 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:07.079 at this spot, then there were chairs that were like allegedly, 2280 01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:11.119 this place hasn't been occupied or nobody's gone here for decades. 2281 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:13.560 It seems like every room they walked in like there 2282 01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:15.640 was like four chairs that were all facing each other 2283 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:18.039 as if people were sitting there having a conversation, but 2284 01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:18.880 nobody was there. 2285 01:49:19.199 --> 01:49:20.880 They kept hearing weird noises. 2286 01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:23.840 Some of these beds looked like they were just made, 2287 01:49:23.960 --> 01:49:26.079 even though they also look fucked up at the same time. 2288 01:49:26.119 --> 01:49:27.640 And it's like, so. 2289 01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:30.119 There is a chance that maybe crackheads were living there, 2290 01:49:30.479 --> 01:49:33.960 but with the constant cop and National Guard, you know, 2291 01:49:34.319 --> 01:49:36.199 patrols that were going on there, I have a hard 2292 01:49:36.239 --> 01:49:40.000 time believing it. And yeah, yeah, that was a whole 2293 01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:43.239 thing that happened. So good on you for recognizing that 2294 01:49:43.359 --> 01:49:45.560 within your gut and within your heart of hearts and 2295 01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:48.199 being like, hey, y'all, I'm gonna go chill outside and 2296 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:48.960 stay and watch. 2297 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:49.760 That's what I'm gonna do. 2298 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:50.159 Yep. 2299 01:49:50.239 --> 01:49:51.439 I just didn't go in. 2300 01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:53.920 I was a little baby about it, but I still 2301 01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:55.800 to this day stand by it, and I'm like, mmm, 2302 01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:56.399 I'm good. 2303 01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:57.079 Smart. 2304 01:49:58.159 --> 01:50:01.239 You've both been so generous with your time. Raven Lee 2305 01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:04.760 Jacob cult the conspiracy one of the best in the game. Like, 2306 01:50:04.800 --> 01:50:08.520 if you just go and do a conspiracy podcast, you're 2307 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:11.880 you're showing up in like the top ten, top twenties, right. 2308 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:13.840 Something like that. I have no idea. 2309 01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.760 Honestly, we're so you're so big you don't even check anymore. 2310 01:50:18.479 --> 01:50:20.520 Honestly, it's because I don't know where to check anymore. 2311 01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:22.880 Every site that I used to check on this has 2312 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:24.920 all been shut down, so I don't even fucking know. 2313 01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:26.239 But yeah, where do you? 2314 01:50:26.680 --> 01:50:28.840 Where should people go? Where should what's the best place 2315 01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:30.159 for people to support you? 2316 01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:33.319 So anywhere where you listen to podcasts. We got kicked 2317 01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.840 off of YouTube back in twenty twenty. Me and Jonathan 2318 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:39.359 were probably seven months into the game during COVID, and 2319 01:50:39.439 --> 01:50:41.920 they hard kicked us off of YouTube to the point 2320 01:50:41.920 --> 01:50:44.319 they're even watching our IP address. I can't go to 2321 01:50:44.359 --> 01:50:46.800 his house and get on his WiFi and like a 2322 01:50:46.840 --> 01:50:48.079 YouTube video on my phone. 2323 01:50:48.079 --> 01:50:50.800 They're watching us so hard. So fuck YouTube in that regard. 2324 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:53.239 But if you go to anywhere where you listen to 2325 01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:56.960 podcasts or Spotify is your Apple podcast or iheartradios, that 2326 01:50:57.079 --> 01:50:59.520 is where you will find all of our content. We 2327 01:50:59.560 --> 01:51:01.680 also have a Patreon channel which is the only place 2328 01:51:01.720 --> 01:51:05.039 to get video access to our channel and also commercial 2329 01:51:05.079 --> 01:51:08.079 free listening. And we also get together every Tuesday night 2330 01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:10.319 for the cult member Third Eye All the way open 2331 01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:13.680 to your live every night. Every Tuesday night at nine 2332 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:15.560 pm Central, we get together with everybody and we have 2333 01:51:15.600 --> 01:51:18.520 a big cult meet up for lack of better words, 2334 01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:20.399 and we just be talking about all of the things 2335 01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:23.720 and all the stuff. 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