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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, there's so much good news in
the new year, because you're gonna say, the biggest tax
refund season of all time. The Big Beautiful Bill was
passed in July. You know, the IRS didn't have time
to change all the forbes. So now everybody's going to
get huge tax refunds. If they were overtime workers, if
they're if they had tip income, all those things are
going to be refunded those taxes this year where they
filed for their taxes. And then the other thing is
that we've got lots of great new ideas that we're
going to put before the American people this year to
make their lives better. The President mentioned in his economic
speech from over here at the White House that we've
got like everybody in the whole cabinet working on trying
to get housing to be more affordable. We're going to
have a plan, a big plan, to announce sometime soon
in the new year. It's going to be really good
news for the American people who feel like it's just
not affordable to buy a home anymore.
Speaker 4: Don't forget that.
Speaker 3: Under Joe Biden, the average mortgage payment for the typical
middle class family who are buying a first time for
the first time a home went fourteen thousand dollars a year,
fourteen thousand dollars a year because of inflation and higher
interest rates. And we've got a plan that's just going
to make that go almost completely reverse. Already we've reduced
that monthly mortgage payment by three thousand.
Speaker 5: And that would be welcome to as my friend. That was,
of course, Kevin Hastard, he is the head of the
White House Economic Council.
Speaker 6: On all of the good things.
Speaker 5: A Christmas present if you will to you coming in
the new year from the Trump administration. Welcome, my friends
to both liberalis Rush Hour, the fastest hour in American media.
This our final show of the year twenty twenty five,
so thank you for being with us here. What's coming
up on today's show Today one of my dear dear friends,
Ed Shay, who is just one of the most amazing
musicians on the planet, would track record and more importantly different,
We're going to talk about one of our I think
we both hold him in such high esteem. Today's the
anniversary of Tom Bell's Daft and we will talk about
that near the bottom of the hour. Welcome today. We
also had another death in the rock and roll category,
and that he's not as well known. I never thought
he was as famous as she should be because he's
such a great songwriter and such a great musician.
Speaker 6: And that Christopher Rea passed away today.
Speaker 5: You might remember the song from nineteen seventy eight, Fool
if you think It's over. That was Chris Raya, and
he passed away today. Days also in the anniversary of
Joe Cocker passed away. You know again, I mean you're
so you are so beautiful. I mean, he doesn't remember
I love that song. Okay, So on the policy front,
we have continuations of stories that are just I guess
from last week, from the week before, or one of
them being the Epstein stuff that will not go away.
Those of you who listen regularly know how disgusted tired
I am of this Epstein story. If I don't hear
the name Jeffrey Epstein again, it would be too soon.
But since all the documents were not released, there are
conniption fits being had. One of the conniption fits, well,
you've got to you have this renegade Republican Thomas Massey
and Rowe Kahana. Now Massey was on Disgrace the Nation.
Oh I'm sorry, Face the Nation yesterday and Kahanna was
on that PMS whatever we call ourselves now now channel
MS what MS thirteen now MS MS one hundred.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, it's a big stink over CBS.
Barry Weiss running CBS. I love you, I know you, Barry,
but I love you. You are doing some things and
there is much gnashing of teeth over them. I'll get
to that. Okay, first, let's do this in order. CAV
please cut three, no, no cut cut four, Mister Massey
followed quickly by cut three from PMS. Whatever they are
with Roe Kahana, here is Thomas Massy.
Speaker 4: What are you going to do about it to force
them to comply? I mean, can you do anything? Oh?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 7: People have talked about and by the way, Todd Blanche
is the face of this, but it's really the Attorney
General's Office, Pam Bondy, who is responsible. And there are
several ways to get at this. Some take longer, summer shorter,
the quickest way, and I think the most expeditious way
to get justice for these victims is to bring inherent
contempt against Pam Bondy and that doesn't require going through
the courts and give her And basically Rocanna and I
are talking about and drafting that right now.
Speaker 4: I hear you talk about inherent contempt or impeachment. I
mean these are words that Democrats have been really careful
not to throw around, especially the impeachment word. It's come
up a few times and you've seen leadership walk it back.
Why is this time different? And do you have the
backing of democratic leadership to actually push forward with impeachment
if it comes to that? Is that the next step
when we come back in January. It's different because.
Speaker 8: It's coming from Republicans. Still, if it was just me
out there or Robert Garcia out there, it would be
seen as, Okay, this is just a democratic thing. This
is going to be Thomas Massy leading it. There are
a few Republicans who are on board with it, but
we're not going straight to impeachment. We're starting with contempt.
And the idea would be that you should get a
thirty day grace period. By the way, she's already in
violation of the law, thirty day grace period to get
the documents out.
Speaker 4: Thirty day grace for the sergeant at arms detaining and arresting,
because that's what it is.
Speaker 8: Well, it would be a fine. We're fine enough up
to five thousand dollars each day she doesn't get these
documents out. My goal is not to destroy paybody. I
didn't even know who body was. I've gotten to know
these survivors, and my goal is that on a personal level,
these documents need to come out. They wives were traumatized.
They want these documents out, and whatever we can do
to get the documents.
Speaker 5: Out, yeah, okay, whatever they can do to get the
documents out.
Speaker 6: Fine.
Speaker 5: The documents are being staggered in release. There are complaints
coming in. By the way, the story today in the
Daily BS Epstein victims flatly accused the oj of breaking
the law not protecting their identities with release. You've got
hundreds of thousands of documents and they're trying to release them,
and I don't know who they think is supposed to
be doing all the reactions and everything necessary. Okay, fine, anyway,
that's the Epstein news. Democrats are having Clinton, by the way,
apparently according to the Daily Mail, it's a tabloid. You
have to take what you read with the grain. But
supposedly Bill Clinton is a little bit ticked off. He's
demanding all the files be released, and some spokesperson whatever,
we have nothing to fear from what. I can't care
us anyway, whatever. For the Epstein junkies out here, there's
your Epstein fix. I'm moving on. So tired of this
Epstein stuff. I'm sorry, but David, I know they're victims.
I've never said I don't care about them. Tired of
the old story. People didn't care about this the whole
time Joe Biden was in office. You didn't care one
thing about Epstein. Epstein, Epstein. Now all of a sudden,
it's gotta be front news every freaking day. Enough already. Oh,
by the way, Democrats are threatening another shutdown in January,
Mary Christmas, hope you have happy holidays. They're gonna shut
the government down. They want what is it this time?
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, Trump wants to.
Speaker 5: Dismantle the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Bold of Colorado.
Speaker 6: Do you really care?
Speaker 5: Do you even know if I said to you what's
in Bold of Colorado that the federal government has a
stake in? How many of you saying, Oh, I know,
it's the Atmospheric Research Center? How dare Donald Trump?
Speaker 9: Cut?
Speaker 5: So now Democrats want to shut down your government once
again because Donald Trump is realigning things over at the
Atmospheric Research You know what really their tike? That their
tike that to global warming hoax. All of the slush
fund that's been in this global warming scam for all
these years is coming apart. That's what they're annoyed at.
And I think this is part of that. In fact,
Cut five didn't intend to get this in the first segment.
But since we're on it. The energy we have an
energy secretary and apparently he's actually doing his job. His
name is Chris Wright, and this is Chris Wright on
one of the Sunday shows over the weekend talking about energy.
Speaker 4: So what's the announcement this morning?
Speaker 10: So, my Department of Energy has announced we're going to
return over thirteen billion dollars to the taxpayers. That's over
one hundred dollars per American family. This was money passed
and slated to be energy subsidies, but we need the
subsidies have been corrosive because they've not only cost taxpayer money,
but then they've led to more expensive electricity bills.
Speaker 4: We lose twice. So we're doing everything we can.
Speaker 10: In the Trump administration to stop the rise.
Speaker 4: In energy prices.
Speaker 11: So money that was going to go to green energy
to subsize green energy is instead going back to the treasury.
Speaker 6: Yes, so.
Speaker 11: I thought that green energy was going to be pulling
in all the above like a part of the energy
dominance platform. Does this take it off the table? What's
going on with green energy?
Speaker 10: And again I don't agree with the name, but with
solar and wind and electric vehicles, which is where most
of the money has gone, they've just barely gotten the
three percent of the United States energy in two and
a half percent of global energy. So it's just been
a massive malinvestment. We've made electricity more expensive, We've pushed
industries and jobs out of our country. Haven't moved the
needle on global greenhouse gas emissions.
Speaker 4: It has been as the President said.
Speaker 10: I think he rightfully characterizes it as a scam, a scam.
Speaker 5: Three percent of all energy comes from electric, solar, whatever,
and meanwhile your electricity bills have been rising because of it.
Make that make sense, James, Okay, guess what when you
plug in your nice green electric car, you're plugging it
into what You're plugging it into your power plant. What
is used to get power to your power plant the
same stuff we've been using, fossil fuels. Your power plant
can't power your life on windmills, and in order to
have your electric, green car, you need fossil fuel. So
it has been an entire scam from day one. And
Donald Trump in this administered thirteen billion dollars they put
for subsidies for people to buy their stuff. So they're
getting rid of it. Good, all right, Immigrations in the
news will move to that also. Fulton County, folks, we
got to take a break. What happened in Fulton County
in twenty twenty is coming back to bite. It is
not getting the headlines that it deserves. Democrats and Republicans
in Georgia that were in charge in it down playing
the significance of the story. But it's still out there
and it may. Princess Diana said over a weekend that
this is going to have a big repercussions. We shall
see James Golding snurly, the James Golden Show on the
Red Apple Podcast networks, the James Golden Show Entertaining and
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Speaker 6: James Golden Snurly now and Georgia.
Speaker 5: I mentioned this Fulton County admission that unsigned voting tabulation
happened brings the spotlight back on them. So for almost
almost all of the early voting that took place, the
tapes that are supposed to be signed off on were
not the recorded tapes. Now that has led some people
to say, rightly, so, this is a serious violation of rules.
In fact, one of the board members said, look, this
could just be lazy, or it could be something really egregious.
But not surprisingly, the Republicans that run the place to saying, Oh,
it's just the clerical error, don't mention it. What it
points to is that the rules weren't followed, that election
should not have been certified. It also points to the
fact that people that were questioning the election results in
Fulton County, and it takes, by the way, are not
the only thing they're alleging. Some of the polling's places,
it turns out, were open till two a m. What
sense does that make? It makes none now again, elected
Republicans down there and Democrats in the press are trying
to play this off. Oh, it's just a clerical era.
It is not just the clerical era, folks. Why have
rules if it's if the rules aren't necessary? A all right,
we're coming back. James Snarly with you here, fastest hour
in American media will continue whatever you do.
Speaker 6: Stay here and don't go away, please.
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Speaker 5: Network with me to discuss this. Man is my dear
dear friend Ed Shay welcome, Ed, how are you James?
Speaker 12: My god, I'm doing your last broadcast of the year
and I did your first video podcast, so I'm like
the bookends in your life there. I'm doing great. And
three years ago today we lost one of the greatest
R and B record producers arrangers in the world. You know,
I remember getting the call. I was in Costa Mesa
and I was working Johnny Mathis and I got that
email from a friend of mine saying that Tom passed away.
And James, I know, I tried to hook you up
with him. He's in a big enigma to this day.
I don't know what he died of. Well, it's been
in his obituary or his Wikipedia page there for a
lengthy illness. But I'm going to repeat myself what I
have said to you over the years. One of the kindest,
most gracious, loving man you would ever want to meet.
And he could write tunes, he told me, and again
I mentioned Hughes to call me mister Oshay. He says,
I could write tunes like you were writing a postcard.
He just had this gift of writing these beautiful lyrics.
And I just heard that the great springwriting that he
did the great orchestrations using Obo, English horns, French horns,
and in the percussion. My world you know, the ye
in the Maarimba. It was just exquisite and it is
to this day. I still get goosebumps. And I don't
know if we'll ever reached that level of R and
B that we knew, you know, getting that to the Delphonics.
Speaker 6: He changed everything.
Speaker 12: He changed.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just the arrangements. And by the way, this
went beyond R and B because all of these, so
many of his records crossed as we used to say,
crossed over. I hated that term then. I don't like
it too much now, but they became hits internationally worldwide,
across the board. Great music, but he changed the production
of it, the sound, and people that are not in
the industry, that don't have it don't understand how that
was the sound. He paid attention to detail to everything
he touched. The arrangements were beautiful and sophisticated. Yeah, everything
he touched had had a beauty to it.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, James. And you know, at one time we were
going to do his lot of his hits with the
Philadelphia Orchestra to we were going to do the best
of Tom Bell like a pop series with the orchestra.
And when the orchestra committee would not let Tom bring
in his guys. Meeting me and Charles Collins and Bobby
Eli and Larry Washington, he said, no, not doing it.
He refused to do something as absolutely tremendous as the
Philly Orchestra because he wanted to bring in his team.
And again I told you in another interview, I remember
Tom flying me out to LA to work with James
Ingram to play the tune at the end of City Slippers.
And when I got to La again there was Charles Collins.
You know, the guys. He was a very loyal guy.
And yes he was in the detail, but I'll tell
you why he was in the details. With orchestrations. He
would inquire, he says, ed, does this work one?
Speaker 6: Marinda?
Speaker 12: Is this okay? Does this work one? Timpany? And he
would say the same thing with to Charles Collins, you know,
is this part working? So he was he was a student,
you know, a lifetime student like we all are in
the arts.
Speaker 6: It never ends.
Speaker 12: It's a constant, you know, I'll till battles sort of
always trying to perfect. But he was just a beautiful orchestrator.
And again I told you, over the years he was
known as the Black Burt Bacharach and Bert took great
attention listening to Tom and Tom with Bert, you know,
with the time changes, they were very intricate, but as
a listener you would never know it. You would never
know it. It's like a I think it's a lost art.
I'm really not into what's happening today. I did to
hear some Bruno marsh stuff that I really love, but
end of an era, James, end of an era with
that style of writing, you know where you're using a harp,
a full string section, French horns, Obo, English orn, bassoon,
and still, as one person used to say, it was
R and D wearing a bow tie with Tom, very
sophisticated and just easy on the ear. Let's put it
this way, easy on the ear.
Speaker 5: I had the pleasure of meeting him once, and I
have other friends like you who have met who you
worked with him. I have other friends who've met him
and know him, and the stories are just amazing to
come from everybody that was connected with he. And also
I just want to mention his co writer on for
his stage here, Linda Creed, who was just aweso phenomenal
human being.
Speaker 12: Absolutely wonderful and with all you know, the stylistics and
everything that we associate with Tom Bell. I mean, we
did other great albums. We worked with the Temptations, We
worked with Phillips Timing. We worked with Gotto Barbieri, which
was an absolute disaster because we did three days of
recordings with Gotto and everything that Tom wanted up tempo.
Goto won it as a ballot. The ballot's got too,
so it was sort of a mismatch. I'm sure those
eight or nine cuts are still in a can somewhere
in Philadelphia. But you know, we worked and again, you know,
we worked with the Silvers and Loretta Linn. We did
a great ballot that's still in that fish to Save
Pittsburgh album with Loretta Lynn and I think it was
either Teddy Pendergast. You know, the list goes on and on.
What Tom has achieved over the years and again always
under the radar, never boasting or bragging. When I was
at his home in Billingham, didn't even know that this
man was in the music business. You know, there wasn't
an award, There wasn't even a piano in his living room.
He was He wasn't a enigma. He was a mystery,
he really was, but a great human being and musically
I can't say enough about the man and I next
to year before. You know, Tom would say, all the
rhythm section, guys, we would get double scale. So we
would work. We did like four days of blue roles.
We would do like ten to one, two to five,
and then seven to ten or six to nine, and
we got double scale for that. And if I couldn't,
if I would have to leave early to go to
Atlantic City to work a showroom, he was okay with it.
I would come in the next morning and overdub what
I missed later in that day. So he was a
very kind You know, a lot of leaders want to
do that, James. It's like, you know, your book for
the for this nine hours or whatever, you can't leave.
And I couldn't. I couldn't stay for the day because
some of the leaders that I worked for in Atlantic
City in the showroom wouldn't let me take off for
an evening show. So Tom was gracious enough to say,
do your thing, we'll overdub you in the morning the
next day. And you know, so we would spend you know,
three hours, maybe we would do two or three tunes
within the three hours overdubbing percussion, Bobby e Lyiwan rhythm guitar,
you know, Larry Washington, maybe on Kungha's and then bongos.
So it was a process, but it was a lot
of fun and no anxiety, nothing at all.
Speaker 6: Just love it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So well, the great Tom Bell ladies and gentlemen
passed away from us on this day in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty two. And you know, one thing I would
like to one thing I would like to just I'm
just going to throw this out here. You know, maybe
this idea because I never knew about the Philly story too.
You just said it about the Awkard stray. You know,
it wouldn't be a bad idea to have an awkarst
or some way. I didn't have to be Philly, but
actually do the tribute album for tom Bell.
Speaker 12: Oh, it would be phenomenal.
Speaker 6: It would talk about how to make that happen. That happen.
Speaker 12: You would have to get a producer, you know, and
good arrangers. Now, James, a couple of weeks ago you
played Billy Paul Me and Missus Jones. Yeah, and I
listened to that fact solo that fact solo is a
guy by the name of Jack Saith and Jack did
a lot of the Tom Bell sessions and Jack did
some arrangements for Johnny Mathis, so he did two of
the Johnny Mathis albums that was out in Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: But I to remember you.
Speaker 12: Talking about Billy Paul a couple of weeks ago, and
there were so many unsung heroes in that Philadelphia scene.
Of course, you know, we all know about the Wrecking Crew,
you know Hal Blaine and all the guys. But I
told you once before, I always thought that Philadelphia took
a backseat to Muscle Shoals and you know Rote Town
of course, and again all great pitties producing great music.
But the Philly sound was a versus Philly sound.
Speaker 5: Was a worldwide sound and it needs to be acknowledged. Yes,
what happened in Philadelphia changed the music world and it
needs to be acknowledged.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I told you. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I
told you before Tom really hooked up with Gamble and Huff,
he was working as a record label called Cameo Parkway,
which was you know Bobby ry Dell and d D.
Speaker 11: Sharp.
Speaker 12: If you remember the Locomotion and the mashed Potato, all
those records you know from the day, and you know
Tom wound up conducting on the road for Chubby Checker
and then eventually, you know, he he got that hit
with the Delphonics, which you know you'll hear in movies
and Quentin Tarantino movie. I hear it with Nicholas Cage
singing it. It's it's universe and like I said, it's worldwide.
It's it's one language. You could be, you know, in
China or Japan, and you're still going to get goosebumps
hearing these beautiful string intros. And Bobby Eli used to
say Tom Bell was the king of the intros. His
intros were like magnificent that you would think you were
listening to a John Williams film score soundtrack of Hell.
He had those strings. And I also told you before
James here was a guy that was not he They
didn't let him into the Philadelphia Musical Academy. They said
he didn't qualify. And I always remember him saying, mister o'shay,
I could buy that building now, but without any malice.
He found it funny, but he was he learned from
dealing with the guys. Does this work, you know, reading
orchestration books.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I have to cut you short, but I
have some things. I just got to get to this
commercial break, no problem. Thank you for coming on, thank
you for sharing your memories of the great time. And
we really do need to work on.
Speaker 6: This this product.
Speaker 12: We will do that, and thanks for everything. Happy holidays
you and the family and all.
Speaker 6: Your listeners, and happy holidays. See you, my dear ed.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: James Friend, thank you. James Golden is neurly here with you.
We're coming right back, folks, don't go away.
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Speaker 5: Sure yes, and my friends, this puts the icing on
the New York City cake this year. On January first,
Senator Bernie Sanders of Connecticut, I'm sorry, Vermont communist, Vermont socialist,
Vermont mus be nice will swear in his theological mini
me Mandani in New York City at the public ceremony.
He's going to be sworn in by Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 13: Do you suddenly swear to take all of the money
that you can for all of the rich people that
you can, except for US Democrats.
Speaker 6: Just make sure that you hurt the olidarks, do what
you can to take.
Speaker 13: Care of and destroy the landlords and capitalism in New
York City?
Speaker 5: Do you soulemly swear that zoren So it ought to
be ladies and gentlemen, a sight worth beholding Bernie Sanders
to swear in zoron, Mam Donnie. I can't wait. And
of course after this wearing in, I want to know
when all the free stuff is going to be rolled
out out so we have that, ladies and gentlemen. Oh,
I think we've arrived at the moment. Where's time to
wrap up another year for me? Mannheim Stingraller was one
of Russia's favorite groups, and so for almost thirty years,
well not quite thirty because it didn't start right the
first year or the second year, but almost for thirty
years we used to end the Russian Mushelle for the
year with this song. Princess Diana and I spent some
time on so she has a wonderful piece. You can
find it at Diana and Me on X about Christmas
without Rush, and she talked about that holy sperience.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 5: Rush was one of the most generous people I've ever
met in my life. And the generosity too of his
audience was unsurpassed, raising millions millions of dollars for leukemia research,
which has helped save so many lives.
Speaker 6: Also for.
Speaker 5: The families of America's warriors and law enforcement that were taken.
Just an amazing legacy and an amazing life, And I
have a lot to be thankful for too. I mean,
I'm here with you on WABC. WABC is my in
New York and also around the country. But WABC, for
those of you that don't know my own background, is
part of my heritage, is where I met Rush.
Speaker 6: It's where I grew.
Speaker 5: My first job was at WWL New York, and then
my second major break was at WABC, where I was
the music director and their very first talk radio producer,
and that led to a whole other world. And thanks
to the cats of the Tits, John and Margo, I'm
here today and then of course they syndicated both the
weekday show and the weekend show. But we have such
a wonderful staff at WABC, and that includes all of
the people in the control room, including today Viny's there,
what is my young man's name what we here because
he was here the other day and not even and
Matt Matt is here today. And Kevin, our program director,
who is just ladies and gentlemen. Aside from being just
a wonderful human being, an amazing guy, he's also a
music officionado that blows my mind with his knowledge. He's incredible.
But it extends to all of our salespeople here, all
the people that you never see, never hear, who all
work together to make these shows that you love happen.
And I am so grateful to all of them for
their beautiful energy, and of course be grateful to you,
all of you who listen, who get in contact or don't,
who call, who support those of us in this industry.
Thank you, Thank you for everyone I've been. I've been
in the radio business, in media I worked into I
walked into a radio station when I was fourteen years old,
and I knew that I wanted to be in this
business at fourteen years old. And God has blessed me
so that my life I have spent doing what I'd
love to do. And thank you, Thank you God. So
I'd like to just close out by wishing you all
the very best. Thing this coming year ahead. I'll be
back on January third, God willing, but may God bless
and protect each and every single one of you, your families,
those you love. I will always have love and gratitude
for each and every one of you for being here
with me, for allowing me to be with you. I
wish you God speaking and love and peace this holiday season.
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