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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Iconic Studio a here at proven

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<v Speaker 1>Winners Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified

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<v Speaker 1>radio podcast and YouTube show with Stacy Hervella, me Rick Weist,

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into a key time of the year in the whole

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<v Speaker 1>gardening cycle. Fall an opportunity to make changes in your landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>So today would be a good day to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some things that you can do now to ensure the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're going to have a better landscape next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, Stacey. You inspired me with

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<v Speaker 1>your video of your yard and your project, because I

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<v Speaker 1>got to thinking about supply and demand. Many gardeners and

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<v Speaker 1>landscape landscapers highly recommend adding mulch to your soil in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall for a plethora of reasons. Now, often in

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<v Speaker 1>spring you'll see people after a long winter, they're fired

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<v Speaker 1>up about the gardening season, and they'll order some huge

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<v Speaker 1>ten or twenty yard load of mulch that's dropped in

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<v Speaker 1>a driveway and now you're spreading multch every night after

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<v Speaker 1>work for weeks to come. But fall actually is a

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<v Speaker 1>smart time of the year. I think to apply mulch,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you think about it, you're going to protect

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<v Speaker 1>the soil and the roots of these plants as winter

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<v Speaker 1>comes along and next spring. Instead of spreading mults, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to do the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, like planting, pruning, and spreading seeds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a great point. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, including myself, often think of spring as kind

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<v Speaker 2>of prime mulching time because the plants are dormant, so

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to worry about fussing around things and

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<v Speaker 2>lifting up leaves and trying to get stuff under there.

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<v Speaker 2>But fall, especially if you wait till the plants are dormant,

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<v Speaker 2>are nearly so has very much the same benefits. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know you don't have to worry so much

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<v Speaker 2>about the plants then trying to make their way through

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<v Speaker 2>the mulch, because by the time spring rolls around, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the wind and the rain and everything will have worked

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<v Speaker 2>on the mulch. It'll be flattened out and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is too late for me, because yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>did spread twenty eight yards of mulch on Memorial Day weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will remember that for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they call it fall for a reason. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about what the trees are doing in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dropping the leaves and mulching the soil. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still one that is very much for shredding leaves and

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<v Speaker 1>using them as a mulch. But that's something that you

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<v Speaker 1>could do this fall. I'd like to throw into the

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<v Speaker 1>mix too. I recommend that you invest. I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at money market rates at five percent on a six

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<v Speaker 1>month certificate of deposit. That means that if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to invest now next spring, you could use that money

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<v Speaker 1>to buy plants and use the interest for all the

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<v Speaker 1>accessories like pots, fertilizer, and soil that can get rather expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have that kind of liquidity, then what

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<v Speaker 1>you could do is invest in plants at your local

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<v Speaker 1>garden center or greenhouse this fall. Stacy, You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get those plants at a bargain and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be off to the races next spring if you put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the ground this fall.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people really need to understand how much garden

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<v Speaker 2>centers and nurseries do not want to have to overwinter

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<v Speaker 2>that material. And so yeah, you can get some amazing bargains,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might go to the garden center and find

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<v Speaker 2>that the plants don't look quite as prime as you

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<v Speaker 2>have in your mind, and that is normal. They are

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<v Speaker 2>going dormant. And it's not uncommon for plants in a

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<v Speaker 2>nursery situation to go dormant a little bit earlier for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of reasons. Number one, they started much earlier

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<v Speaker 2>because they spent winter in a greenhouse, so they had

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<v Speaker 2>an earlier start. So they're getting pretty tired. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for two, there's a chance of uneven watering. And here

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<v Speaker 2>in Michigan, man, has it been a fall or what?

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<v Speaker 2>It has been so hot, it has been so dry,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, so a lot of those plants will look

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<v Speaker 2>as though they're struggling, but really they're just like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm done. I'm out conserving my resources, go

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<v Speaker 2>in to bed for the fall. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's not still going to be a great plant for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So take that risk, especially if it is a great price.

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<v Speaker 2>The risk is very very low. Don't judge it by

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<v Speaker 2>what it looks like when you're standing there at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of September in the garden center.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't judge a book by its cover. You're exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>and by next spring it'll be beautiful. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I'm one to do this and buy bargain

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<v Speaker 1>plants in fall. It's fun for me. I'm Dutch. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind. I'll admit it. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote you a little limb of Eric Stacey in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to this subject. A penny saved is a penny earned.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, that's what I've learned in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>horticultural jargon. Who doesn't love a distressed bargain nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't get burned, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, It's very low stakes, and chances are the

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<v Speaker 2>plants are going to be totally Fu'm better than fine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's like people go to the garden center.

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<v Speaker 2>They go, you know, mom's a little bit of haystack,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of cornstock, pumpkin maybe then out like.

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<v Speaker 3>And whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just this whole part of the garden center that

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<v Speaker 2>you are missing out, Hans. So don't just make that

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<v Speaker 2>that you turn to the pumpkin section and leave just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been known as spring since the fourteenth century. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an old English word. I have no idea how to

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<v Speaker 1>pronounce it. I think it's springing. It's spring with an

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<v Speaker 1>an on the end, but it translates into springing time

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<v Speaker 1>or to leap or to burst forth. The point is,

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<v Speaker 1>now is the time to acquire bulbs that you could

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<v Speaker 1>put in the ground that will spring forth next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>And garlic, whether it's garlic narcissus iris, fritillarias aliums, Crocus, tulips, highacince,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera. I really think that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great investment in fall. And again, when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>bulbs like garlic, alien Fritillaria narciss iris, deer and pests

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<v Speaker 1>will generally leave them alone. And something you can do

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to invest in these bulbs I do

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time is I'll dig the trench or

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<v Speaker 1>the hole and I'll just have some inexpensive chicken wire around,

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<v Speaker 1>drop that down in the hole, put the bulbs in,

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<v Speaker 1>wrap them, and then put the rest of the soil

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<v Speaker 1>over top. And it seems to work. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no one ever regrets planting bulbs. You can

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<v Speaker 2>quote me on this if you would like. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am such a proponent of bulbs. I mean, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>the work you put into planting bulbs, it just pays

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<v Speaker 2>off four years usually. And that's what We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole show on bulbs coming up, so we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get way deep into it because we are some of

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<v Speaker 2>bulbs's biggest fans.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not even touch.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have some turf area in your landscape, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't fertilize all year long, that's fine, just

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're fertilizing in fall. The turf is not

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<v Speaker 1>putting energy into top growth. You fertilize, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a denser, thicker, weed free lawn. I think fall

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<v Speaker 1>is the perfect time if you have some turf areas

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to improve, apply some fertilizer to the lawn.

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<v Speaker 1>It will make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, are you a fall thatcher or a spring thatcher?

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<v Speaker 1>On the low? Ooh I am I'm not a thatcher.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a core air r.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant that's what I meant, cororation, not thatching, de thatching.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, core air rating. I personally believe anytime is a

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<v Speaker 1>good time to core air rate if the soil needs it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some people won't do it in the heat of summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can understand why. So spring and fall probably best.

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<v Speaker 1>In fall, yeah, a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The great thing about core aeration in the fall

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<v Speaker 2>is that all of those plugs that come out that

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<v Speaker 2>look like gooseboop will decompose over winter for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of flatten out, and you won't have to look

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<v Speaker 2>at them for weeks on end.

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<v Speaker 3>Good fort sign from experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point. And I love core air rating. It shakes

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<v Speaker 1>the fillings in the back of your teeth and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just fun. It's lots and lots of fun. And you

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<v Speaker 1>do it during halftime of the football game. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing to do. Learn the difference between annual

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<v Speaker 1>and perennial weeds. I still believe fall is the time

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<v Speaker 1>to control weeds because they're going to translate locate herbicide

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<v Speaker 1>into the root system if you use an herbicide better

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<v Speaker 1>in fall than they will in spring, where you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>top kill. But again, a thicker, denser lawn, or just

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<v Speaker 1>general control of weeds. Falls a great time to identify

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<v Speaker 1>those annual weed rosettes that are going to become a

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<v Speaker 1>problem next spring, and also the perennial weeds in your landscape,

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<v Speaker 1>so Stacey, throughout the years, I have always done my

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<v Speaker 1>weed control in fall. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>People think about weeds as just a pest, but they

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<v Speaker 2>actually are individual plants, and it pays so much to

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<v Speaker 2>just learn what they are a little bit about their

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<v Speaker 2>life cycle. And I don't know, maybe it's just me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that buy and large, you resent them

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit less when you know them a little better.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just trying to they're just trying to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let me go to the Dutch side again. Here

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<v Speaker 1>a minutte real quick, and that is I like to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up potting soil in fall. Many times you can

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<v Speaker 1>get a bargain on potting soil and fall. And just

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<v Speaker 1>think about this. If you refresh your containers or put

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<v Speaker 1>potting soil in your containers in fall next spring when

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<v Speaker 1>you're anxious or you've gone to the greenhouse and you've

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<v Speaker 1>picked up your little babies and you can't wait to

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<v Speaker 1>plant them, you don't have to mess around with that step.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got it done in fall. I think falls a

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<v Speaker 1>great time to refresh the soil in your container.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's an interesting idea. I guess if you have

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<v Speaker 2>the storage space very often it is also on sale

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<v Speaker 2>because much like the plants, garden center owners and box

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<v Speaker 2>stores do not want to haul that around or shrink

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<v Speaker 2>wrap it and move it to the back forty or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they're going to do about it. And yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>you should take advantage of that. Scoop up that bargain.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got it well. Coming up in segment four, we

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<v Speaker 1>have additional items to share with you, things that you

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<v Speaker 1>could do now to have a better landscape next spring.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The lawn and short of it, Stacey is

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<v Speaker 1>that I love the fall season and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect time of the year to be out there gardener.

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<v Speaker 2>It is you got to take advantage of the good weather,

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<v Speaker 2>will you.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Let's see what Stacey has for us today in

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<v Speaker 1>Plants on Trial that's coming up next here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Proven Winners Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. That's why we trial and test all of

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<v Speaker 2>our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they

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<v Speaker 2>outperform everything else on the market. Look for them and

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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center. Greeting's

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the gardening simplified show

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<v Speaker 2>where the order of the day is what you can

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<v Speaker 2>do now to save yourself a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>and effort in Remember that old fable about the grasshopper

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<v Speaker 2>and the ants where the ants were busy stockpiling for fall,

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<v Speaker 2>and the grasshopper was playing his fiddle and yes, not

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<v Speaker 2>doing anything, and then he left at the ants. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you all working so hard? I'm having a

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<v Speaker 2>grand old time here in the fall. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>almost froze to death in the winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, kind of like that. Good lesson, Yeah, good lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>You're better off being antsy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's like an Esop's fable or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>just have a vague memory of having it in a

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<v Speaker 2>book when I was kidding, but it just reminded me

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<v Speaker 2>of the same kind of thing. You have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put a little effort in and it will pay off.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is very much what today's plant on Trial

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<v Speaker 2>is about. So, you know, we have talked many times

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<v Speaker 2>about how fault is a great time for planting because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the temperatures are cooler, the days are shortening,

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<v Speaker 2>so the plant is going dormant on top, and that

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<v Speaker 2>means that all of the energy that it has can

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<v Speaker 2>go into root growth rather than trying to support all

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<v Speaker 2>that foliage, all that flower photosynthesizing all the time, drying

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<v Speaker 2>out from the sun, drying out from the wind. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like, you know what, I've got one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and it's grow roots. And that is a

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<v Speaker 2>real benefits lutely for plants. But that's said, there are

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things that you should avoid planting in fall,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have talked about those as well, But just

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<v Speaker 2>as a reminder, if you live in a colder climate

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<v Speaker 2>like us here in Michigan, are really anywhere where it

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<v Speaker 2>gets snowy frozen, you generally want to avoid planting evergreens

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<v Speaker 2>in fall, and especially broad leaf evergreen. So a broad

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<v Speaker 2>leaf evergreen is basically not a conifer. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be something like a holly or a rhododendron. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid planting those generally in fall, although of course,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get one of those great bargains that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about, you might find yourself doing that. In that case,

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<v Speaker 2>different situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Plant away, but I would agree with you, Stacy, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're planting it in a really well protected area, then

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably get away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're definitely going to want to mult those if

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<v Speaker 2>you do try that. But so that's something I don't recommend.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also don't recommend that you plant in fall

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<v Speaker 2>anything where you're pushing the plant's heartiness zonne. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as gardeners, a lot of us do this, like we

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<v Speaker 2>like to say, oh, hey, you know, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>quite hardy here, but I've seen it survive some places

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to try it. So I am fully

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<v Speaker 2>in support of those types of experiments. But really, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're pushing the hardiness own on something, or it's a

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<v Speaker 2>plant that typically gets winter damage in your climate, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think butterfly bush is a great example, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to plant those in full because then there's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily enough time for them to develop a good root

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<v Speaker 2>system to withstand any of the challenges winter is going

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<v Speaker 2>to throw at it. You really want to give those

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of having the spring to fall window to

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<v Speaker 2>grow and.

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<v Speaker 3>Put en route.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are really my primary you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 2>caveats with fall planting, but you know, you also want

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<v Speaker 2>to take this time to invest in things that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to really make your landscape look good sooner than later,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, even when you plant bulbs. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>this happens to me. I don't know if it happens

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<v Speaker 2>to other people, but you plant those bulbs and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're so excited to see them, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know it's going to be months, but you start looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to that. So it's important, I think, too, to

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<v Speaker 2>use the time to plant something that you can really

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to seeing and doing something well in spring. Now, overall,

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<v Speaker 2>plants are not going to perform their best until they're established,

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<v Speaker 2>which is to say they have a good root system

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<v Speaker 2>in place that they can use all those resources to

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<v Speaker 2>growing and flowering and all of that. But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean you don't want to see some great results the

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<v Speaker 2>following spring. So I have got the perfect plant for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's plant on trial is double plate red Spyria. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>are you a spyria snob?

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a Spyria snob.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're really a snob about much

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<v Speaker 2>of anything in the garden. Rick, Thank you, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a nice thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to like Spyrea. I just find them to

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<v Speaker 1>be easy to grow and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they kind of just like to sit around looking

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<v Speaker 2>pretty great without asking a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, it's it's not a plant that

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<v Speaker 1>is just planted in front of at Okay, yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>said it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other place, famously where they are often planted

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<v Speaker 2>is new subdivisions, new developments, are you know, commercial buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. It's kind of like a con

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like if you have a house, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the contractor grade cabinets. It's sort of like the contractor

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<v Speaker 2>grade plant. Shrub is very often spirea, and so a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have a very snobby attitude about Spyria

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of turn their noses up at it, especially horticulturists, gardeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the same category as potentilla. Yeah, same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But anytime you have one of those plants that is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, used in those very challenging conditions like a

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<v Speaker 2>gas station. No it's not beautiful, but they've got to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with some very harsh conditions. Crazy drivers potentially driving

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<v Speaker 2>over those areas, died mulch, you know, trash, who even

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<v Speaker 2>knows if they have irrigation. So the reason that contractors

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth are choosing to put Spiria in these

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<v Speaker 2>conditions is because it is tough enough to withstand them,

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<v Speaker 2>and the flowers are are pretty. Now for most people

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<v Speaker 2>they would say, yeah, the flowers are pretty, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>just not around long enough to justify the space that

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<v Speaker 2>a spirea takes. But really, with the double Play series

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<v Speaker 2>of Spyrea that we developed here at proven Winter's Color

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<v Speaker 2>Choice Shrubs, these were selected specifically to kind of bring

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty and shape into the plant that made it

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<v Speaker 2>worth growing, that made it worth choosing rather than just

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<v Speaker 2>ending up with, you know, because it does a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more, and so the name double Play kind of

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<v Speaker 2>says it all. It does two things. Of course, it

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<v Speaker 2>has great flowers a spyria ought to, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>has really colorful foliage, especially in spring.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing about Spyria's early spring vibrant foliage.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and it's not something that people generally think about

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<v Speaker 2>as a major factor or a major reason to plant it.

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<v Speaker 2>But all of the Double Play series has been selected

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<v Speaker 2>for Superior folio color when it emerges in spring and

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<v Speaker 2>superior flower color. Now double Play Red Spyria. It does

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<v Speaker 2>get its name because it is an almost true red flower.

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<v Speaker 2>It still got some pink in it. But interestingly, the

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<v Speaker 2>anthers and pollen the male parts of the flower are purple,

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<v Speaker 2>and the sort of combination of that purple in there

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<v Speaker 2>with the deep pinky red flowers does really make it

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<v Speaker 2>come off as looking red. So that's where double play

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<v Speaker 2>Red Spyria gets its name. But it also just so

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<v Speaker 2>happens that the new growth on double play Red Spyria

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<v Speaker 2>is this beautiful burgundy color. And this is a great

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<v Speaker 2>thing about if you were using the opportunity to plant

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<v Speaker 2>and fall to plant double Play Red or any of

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<v Speaker 2>the other double play spyrias, is you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>get that amazing foliage color this spring. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that plants do you may not

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<v Speaker 2>be able to enjoy for a couple years down the

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<v Speaker 2>line until again they've established that root system. But play Spyria,

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<v Speaker 2>you are gonna get that amazing foliage color immediately following

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<v Speaker 2>in this spring. So it's a great opportunity to plant something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna look good and you don't ever have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry with spyreea of whether or not it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>able to withstand the winter. They are very hardy plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Double Play Red Spiria is actually hardy down to USDA's

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<v Speaker 2>own three heat tolerant through USDA's oone eight. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of these kind of like no risk plants.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna look great immediately, it's gonna give you something

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<v Speaker 2>to look forward to in spring. I love pairing these

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<v Speaker 2>double play spyrias with bulbs because they just have sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the right amount of color to set off like

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<v Speaker 2>the yellow of a daffodil with a nice burgundy of

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<v Speaker 2>the double play red spyria. So it's just another way

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<v Speaker 2>to get color in your landscape. And I really like

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked a lot about mulch, which was not necessarily intentional,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a plant that I would recommend that

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<v Speaker 2>you mulch because having that lighter color mulch really helps

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<v Speaker 2>to set off that color of the foliage as it

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<v Speaker 2>starts to develop in spring. And you know, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>like we said, spiria are very easy to grow. They're

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<v Speaker 2>tolerant of both sun and part shade, and that I

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<v Speaker 2>think it makes them very suitable for those difficult conditions

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like the front of my house. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>other people have the situation too. One side sunny, one

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<v Speaker 2>side is like part shade to shade, so it's very

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<v Speaker 2>hard if you're trying to go for that symmetrical look.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like a spyria can actually do that for you

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<v Speaker 2>because it can take both conditions and so you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of attain that symmetry. So it's very, very versatile.

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite shade tolerant. It is drought tolerant, especially

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<v Speaker 2>once it's established. Although you do want to say if

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<v Speaker 2>you are drought, you're not going to drought struss or

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<v Speaker 2>spiria in its first year. I know you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that because you already know the plant should

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<v Speaker 2>not do. A new shrub should not dry out during

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<v Speaker 2>its entire first season if you can help it. But

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really want to let them dry out during

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<v Speaker 2>the flowering time because that will shorten the life of

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<v Speaker 2>the flowers. They're also pretty deer resistant, Oh good, which

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<v Speaker 2>is important.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they've munched on mine to a degree in

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<v Speaker 1>my landscape. But I was going to mention, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next week we've got to show on rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>and repetition. I think it's a great plant for that

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<v Speaker 1>also in a landscape because it can stand alone or

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<v Speaker 1>you can plant it in drifts and rows.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is edging. Yeah, it's a very versatile plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I will say it could be now spires are

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<v Speaker 2>generally fairly small, double Play Red is about two to

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<v Speaker 2>three feet tall and wide. I believe I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it in my notes here, so it can also be

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<v Speaker 2>rabbits that munch on the emerging stems. But honestly, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if that does happen, they will just branch out

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<v Speaker 2>and continue to grow.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're really versatile.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty, and I think that especially the Double Play

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<v Speaker 2>series does not deserve the snobbery's.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually I agree, and I am not us now I

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<v Speaker 1>like it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can check us out at Gardeningsimplified on air

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<v Speaker 2>dot com to see photos of double playredspiria and read

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<v Speaker 2>all the reasons why it deserves a place in your gardener.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, if you're checking out us on YouTube, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>already see that. So we're gonna take a little break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're opening up the garden mail bags,

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<v Speaker 2>Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified

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<v Speaker 2>Show where we're talking about things that you can do

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<v Speaker 2>now for spring to prepare you take this time to

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<v Speaker 2>save you time in spring, and you know, follows definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a time where people don't know what to do if

436
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<v Speaker 2>they should cut everything back. People, you know, they have

437
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<v Speaker 2>this instinct that like the landscape should just be barren

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<v Speaker 2>before fall, you know, finishes, and that is not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you have questions about what to prune, what

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<v Speaker 2>you should do, you can always reach us at Gardening

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<v Speaker 2>Simplified on air dot com. We have a contact form

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<v Speaker 2>there can send us your question Nick Niemas, send us

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<v Speaker 2>a photo there and we'll be happy to help.

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<v Speaker 3>But as always, when in.

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<v Speaker 2>Doubt, don't if you don't know what to do, You're

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<v Speaker 2>out there, you're pruning, you're scraping, you're cleaning, you're raking,

447
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<v Speaker 2>you're doing all the stuff and you don't know if

448
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<v Speaker 2>you should do something, especially when it comes to pruning

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<v Speaker 2>in fall.

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<v Speaker 3>When in doubt don't coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>In the next segment, will continue with more advice on

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<v Speaker 1>what you could do this fall, Stacy, including my top two,

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<v Speaker 1>my two favorites. Maybe a little controversial, ooh, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to share that in the next sevenment.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not a snob, but you are not afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of a little controversy and a tease.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So what do we got in the mail bag?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we go, Christy writes, I purchased this

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<v Speaker 1>spring two of the Sweet and Low Sweet Box from

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<v Speaker 1>your mail order. That's a plant that you got me

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<v Speaker 1>interested in, Stacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's very new.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had them all summer planted in containers on

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<v Speaker 1>my shaded patio zone six B seven. One's doing really well.

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<v Speaker 1>The other developed brown or dark purplish color on a

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<v Speaker 1>few of the leaves. Can you tell me is that

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<v Speaker 1>from overwatering? Thank you love watching your podcast every weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>And Christy did send photos, so we'll have those in

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube video as well. Is at Gardening Simplified on

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<v Speaker 2>air dot Com in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Familiar with Sweet and Low, Sweetbox or Sweetbox in general,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a ground covering broad leaf evergreen, so not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily one you would want to plant in fall. If

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<v Speaker 2>you live in a cold climate, if you are in

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<v Speaker 2>zone seven, you're probably good to go. And it's called

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<v Speaker 2>sweetbox because it is related to boxwood. But when it

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<v Speaker 2>blooms in late winter, oh my gosh, the fragrance is

479
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<v Speaker 2>just astounding. And that's where the sweetbox comes from. So

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<v Speaker 2>it blooms at a different time. It's a ground cover.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's happy, it just looks lovely. Because it is

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<v Speaker 2>a broadling evergreen, it kind of wants that acidic, moist

483
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<v Speaker 2>but well drained soil. And it sounds like and looks

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<v Speaker 2>like from Christie's photos that they are doing very well.

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<v Speaker 2>But what she writes about is she has some concern

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<v Speaker 2>about some purplish or dark foliage that has developed at

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<v Speaker 2>the base of one of the plants. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see anything that is a cause for concern in these plants.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do want to tell people, you know, plants

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<v Speaker 2>can have foliage churned yellow, they can have foliage churn

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<v Speaker 2>brown for any number of reasons, and sometimes the reason

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<v Speaker 2>is not always clear. But generally speaking, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>the plant continues to grow and the new growth continues

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<v Speaker 2>to emerge healthy and green and happy looking. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a cause for concern if that lower foliage is

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<v Speaker 2>turning brown or shedding for whatever reason, especially if it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit, and it tends to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>con find to the middle of the plant now, because

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<v Speaker 2>these are so new it could be that that foliage

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<v Speaker 2>just can't be supported by the plant anymore. It could

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<v Speaker 2>be that the plant is just shedding those leaves, because

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<v Speaker 2>when Christy wrote this it was already towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the growing season. Here. Even evergreens do lose their

504
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<v Speaker 2>leaves sometimes the evergreen is a little bit of a misnomer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not quite literally forever. They drop some leaves. So

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<v Speaker 2>it could be that the plant is just taking in

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<v Speaker 2>the chlorophyll. As a result, that leaf is turning brown,

508
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<v Speaker 2>storing the chlorophyll and will continue to grow. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>the key if to know, if you have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about a plant that is showing some limited browning or

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<v Speaker 2>yellowing of the foliage, look at the new growth, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily that old growth. And as long as the new

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<v Speaker 2>growth is still looking happy and healthy, then chances are

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have any you know, real cause for concern

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<v Speaker 2>or anything to really worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you use sweet and low in your coffee? I

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<v Speaker 1>do not, No it neither.

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<v Speaker 2>I like coffee, you know, so I drink it black.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to kick the cream and sugar bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a whole other story, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I would think, as a former garden center owner, you

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<v Speaker 2>would just be like the pure stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I need it. I put it right in my veins.

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<v Speaker 1>Xena writes to us Rick and Stacy. I love your program.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to catch you every week. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the fun education. Can I ask you for advice if

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<v Speaker 1>you look up the term cement mites that looks like

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<v Speaker 1>what I have. I love the swing on my patio,

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<v Speaker 1>but after a few minutes I will see this tiny, tiny,

532
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<v Speaker 1>reddish brown mite. Oh boy, I've been there, done that

533
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<v Speaker 1>crawling on me. I have sprayed my patio several times

534
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<v Speaker 1>this year. They still return. Do they nest somewhere or

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<v Speaker 1>fall from the trees. Please give me this information, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a job for some IPM. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to do a little research in there, and so a

539
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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago or earlier, this wasn't. It was

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<v Speaker 2>several months ago at this point, but we had a

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<v Speaker 2>question on mailbag from a listener who had chiggers, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had never really gone down the chigger rabbit hole

543
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<v Speaker 2>as it were, and done my research about what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>They are awful, horrendous creatures. I feel terrible for anybody

545
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<v Speaker 2>who has them. And these concrete mites very much do

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<v Speaker 2>look like chiggers.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyone who sees a red.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, might kind of scurrying around, might be immediately

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit alarmed. It might, it might be, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not getting bitten, then you know they're not chiggers,

551
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<v Speaker 2>because if there is a chigger near you, it will

552
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<v Speaker 2>be biting you without question. So yeah, it does look

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<v Speaker 2>like something that is known as cement mites or concrete

554
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>mites does look like a chigger. But again, these concrete mites,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't bite humans. Now, their biggest threat is that

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They can stain your clothing, so if you

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<v Speaker 2>sit on them or something like that in you, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not their blood. It's just that the little insect it's

559
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<v Speaker 2>or the little mite itself is actually red. But overall

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<v Speaker 2>they are actually beneficial. I know that it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to convince Zena of this, but they are beneficial.

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<v Speaker 2>They prey on other insects, which is going to include

563
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<v Speaker 2>probably a lot of plants or insects that are bad

564
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<v Speaker 2>for the garden.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They live and breed in moist environments with organic matter.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a situation where you're going to want

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<v Speaker 2>to look around your porch and identify any areas where

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<v Speaker 2>say leaves start to accumulate, it gets wet and kind

570
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<v Speaker 2>of that would be like an ideal breeding environment for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you want to keep that clear. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can adjust irrigation so that it's slightly less moist

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<v Speaker 2>around that area, that also ought to take care of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it seems like you know, you spray, they

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<v Speaker 2>go away and they come back, that's because that is

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. So what happens with these with these little

577
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<v Speaker 2>mites is they have this kind of boom bust life

578
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<v Speaker 2>cycle where they'll you know, they'll hatch out and then

579
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<v Speaker 2>they'll be hun of them and then that generation will die,

580
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<v Speaker 2>but they will have left behind a bunch of eggs

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<v Speaker 2>and then that second generation comes roaring back. So it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, you know, you just didn't knock them down.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's actually a whole second generation. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my advice would be again to use that IPM approach.

585
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<v Speaker 2>Can you modify the habitat, can you modify the environment

586
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<v Speaker 2>that is encouraging them, because even if you are open

587
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<v Speaker 2>to spreading or using chemicals against them, it's not easy

588
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<v Speaker 2>to try to use a chemical management against these super

589
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 2>teeny tiny little mites.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem with them dealing with these through the

591
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<v Speaker 1>years is again the stain. The stain is like having

592
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<v Speaker 1>some ketchup on your pants. I mean they stain. I'm

593
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<v Speaker 1>wearing khaki shorts today and thinking about those chiggers and

594
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<v Speaker 1>they'll make a mess in a quick hurry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know I did. I was reading about the

596
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<v Speaker 2>concrete mites in Ohio State Universities as some like, if

597
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<v Speaker 2>you're having a wedding in your yard, you may want

598
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<v Speaker 2>to think about managing the concrete mi so zena.

599
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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully it'll work.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, take a behavioral modification approach first, if you can.

601
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<v Speaker 1>Froca asks whether dead heading hardy hibiscus like the Summer

602
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<v Speaker 1>Summarific series promotes more flowers. Great question.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a great question, and I will say that

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<v Speaker 2>in my experience, it has not.

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<v Speaker 1>How about you same here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one thing that's interesting and different about the Summarific

608
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<v Speaker 2>series compared to other previous hardy Hibiscus is they are

609
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<v Speaker 2>they have an indeterminate growth pattern. So other Hibiscus, older

610
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<v Speaker 2>varieties they grow, they set all their flower buds and

611
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<v Speaker 2>a story, whereas the Summarific Hibiscus will actually, since they're indeterminate,

612
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<v Speaker 2>just like with tomatoes, they continue to grow and they

613
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<v Speaker 2>continue to set flowers. So this isn't an issue of

614
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<v Speaker 2>dead heading where you know, the idea behind dead heading

615
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<v Speaker 2>something is that the flower has opened, it started to

616
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<v Speaker 2>set seed, and that if you remove that seed, that

617
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the plant is like, oh my gosh, I didn't reproduce,

618
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 2>better make more flowers. And that sometimes works, but in

619
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<v Speaker 2>the case of the summerfic Hibiscus it does not. But

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<v Speaker 2>they should bloom for a much longer time than more

621
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<v Speaker 2>conventional older varieties of hardy hibiscus. Have you found that

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<v Speaker 2>as well?

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and I could see why you know, you

624
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<v Speaker 1>want to dead head because those big, old, slimy remnants.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you're into being tidy, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>tidy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Up much mummies.

628
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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, exactly, but I don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>benefit the plant.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, honestly, I would say that of my

632
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<v Speaker 2>summerfic hibiscus, maybe fifty percent of the blooms seem to

633
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<v Speaker 2>set a seed pod. Not all of them do, Okay,

634
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<v Speaker 2>So if it's not setting a seed pod, then you

635
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<v Speaker 2>know that's not that idea of you know, the hormones

636
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>going towards seed development and you being able to thwart

637
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>that is kind of a non issue anyway. So like

638
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>everything else in the garden, you just have to enjoy

639
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 2>it well it lasts and take it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, we're going to take a little break. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're going to be revisiting our conversation

643
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<v Speaker 2>about what you can do now for a better spring,

644
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time for

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<v Speaker 1>branching news. And as we start branching news this week,

652
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<v Speaker 1>want to mention coming up in a few weeks in October,

653
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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do a show on Halloween horror stories.

654
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<v Speaker 1>Harror stories, and what I mean by that is we

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear from you some gardening horror stories. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in the garden industry for over forty years,

657
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<v Speaker 1>and let me tell you I've seen some things that

658
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<v Speaker 1>who For example, I have a neighbor who owns a

659
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<v Speaker 1>second home and this second home he rents out like

660
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>as an airbnb. His neighbor behind him has a number

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<v Speaker 1>of Tree of Heaven trees growing right on the property line.

662
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<v Speaker 1>And this neighbor insists on keeping these trees. Now, if

663
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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know what tree of Heaven is, it

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<v Speaker 1>is just a horrid tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Heaven is a misnomer exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people call it stinking sumac. It's not native to

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<v Speaker 1>the US, and this tree is very, very invasive. As

668
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, the tree basically has come on

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00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.679
<v Speaker 1>people's radar again because the spotted lantern fly like tree

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00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 1>of Heaven. So anyhow, the neighbor insists on growing this

671
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>tree of heaven. His other neighbor to the north of

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<v Speaker 1>him insists on growing bamboo, and bamboo will spread like crazy.

673
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so, and that neighbor is insistent on growing bamboo.

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00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Both of those plants are diminishing the value of his property.

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00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>So to counterattack, he has obtained some mulberry trees and

676
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>now he is extensively planting mulberries hoping the birds drop

677
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the berries, and they're just having an all out battle.

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<v Speaker 1>I call that a Halloween horror stone.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a horror story. And you know, your Halloween

680
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<v Speaker 2>horror story could be any number of things. It could be,

681
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I know in a previous radio show

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00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>I did, someone called in and said she went to

683
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 2>put on her garden glove and there was a mouse

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<v Speaker 2>inside it.

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00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Ohikes, that's a horror.

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00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 3>It could be anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're open to your ideas and you can send those

688
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<v Speaker 2>into us at Gardening Simplified on her dot com. We

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<v Speaker 2>would love to hear from you, and for the Halloween

690
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>show we will read those on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You know, when I ran a garden center one spring,

692
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 1>very busy, you got a lot on your mind. We

693
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>needed to plant up the flower beds out by the

694
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 1>road and sent a young man out there. I thought

695
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I had given him good instructions for planting these annuals.

696
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 1>When I got out there, he had planted them upside down.

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00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my word, the roots up and the flower Ye

698
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 1>horror story. What do you do? I don't.

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00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I guess you turn them are out.

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00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we want you horror stories. Send them to us.

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00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll have a lot of fun on that show that's

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00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 1>coming up in October. Okay, As far as things to

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<v Speaker 1>do in fall so that you have a better spring

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, two of my top items, and

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00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>again there may be some disagreement on this, but number one,

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00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.400
<v Speaker 1>move plants. If you have plants that are too close

707
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to each other, too close to the house, they need

708
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to move, or maybe you're just not happy with where

709
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they're at, move them in fall. I say, take the

710
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>chance once again, soil is warm, cut the plants back,

711
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and then move them. I think it's the ideal time

712
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>of the year to do that. And Stacey, I have

713
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>plants in my landscape that are eligible for Frequent Flyer miles.

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00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 1>They've moved to so many times. I love the fall

715
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>season for moving plants and taking that chance.

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00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I think is a great idea for

717
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.079
<v Speaker 2>many things. Now, I'll say if you watch my garden

718
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.880
<v Speaker 2>video about my lawn removal, I will say, oh, the

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<v Speaker 2>top order of priority for me is moving these boxwood

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00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 2>before spring ends. I have not moved the boxwood I

721
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.079
<v Speaker 2>was going to do with this fall. I am now

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00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.119
<v Speaker 2>not going to do with this fall because it's been

723
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 2>so hot and dry here in Michigan. So again that

724
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>goes back to what I was saying earlier about planting

725
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>evergreens in the fall. So I'm gonna wait on those.

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00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>But the best thing about planting in fall, and I

727
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>do this every year in fall, you know how much plants,

728
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 2>how much room those plants are taking up, and why

729
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>you need to move them. Now, what happens to me

730
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 2>is I don't move stuff in fall, and I think, oh,

731
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll remember, take pictures, write notes for myself. And then

732
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>spring comes along and you just have this cute, tidy

733
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>little thing emerging from the ground and you're like, you

734
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>would never overstay your safe. It looks innocent, and then

735
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, now all of that memory of whatever you

736
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 2>know garden Bully is taking over and edging out its

737
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>neighbors or shading out its neighbors. That's all fresh in

738
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>your mind, and you'll actually believe that it needs to

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00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>be moved. So this is a note for myself as

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<v Speaker 2>much as our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Now of course Stacy's video on our YouTube channel in

742
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<v Speaker 1>her yard, Stacy, you want to remind folks how you

743
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>took out the turf, how you did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I did not do it. I had someone

745
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>else do it, which is always smart. It's a smart

746
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. I mean, as with everything in gardening,

747
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 2>you need to decide what is the best use of

748
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.599
<v Speaker 2>your time and how you want to spend your time.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I had it done. We just called a

750
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 2>landscaping company and they came by with a sod cutter

751
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 2>and hauled it all away. And while we could have,

752
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 2>of course managed the sod removal itself, the bigger issue

753
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for us was just the disposal of all of that stuff.

754
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:47.760
<v Speaker 3>We don't have a dump.

755
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>We live on a small city lot, so you know,

756
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>having someone come and do that and who has the

757
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.719
<v Speaker 2>right equipment, and you know, if I had gone out

758
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and rented you know, the sod cutter and rented a

759
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>big power rake to regrade my yard.

760
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would have cost me that much.

761
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I remem wouldn't been as much savings to make it

762
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 2>worth it. So you know, sometimes you just got to

763
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.559
<v Speaker 2>price that out. It was definitely worth it for me

764
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to have that done professionally.

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00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>So now it's long gone, and when the turf going

766
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 1>gets turf, the turf get going. Now, the point I'm

767
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to make here is that it's my favorite time

768
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of the year to kill turf. My neighbors again call

769
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 1>me plant a clause. I love to go around and

770
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>pick up leaves and use what nature gives us as

771
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a leaf mulch and to till into my soil. But

772
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>if you have some grassy areas that you want to

773
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>convert into a planting bed, fall is the time to

774
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>do it. Now. I'm an old guy, okay, So traditionally

775
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I've used newspaper on top of the grass. It's kind

776
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>of tough to come by newspaper now, but you come

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00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>by brown paper or cardboard or whatever it may be,

778
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and then throw leaves on top of that, and then

779
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>some soil on top of that and just let it

780
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 1>cook all winter long, and you till that up next spring,

781
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you've got an incredible bed to plant, whether it's annuals

782
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 1>or start a new landscape bed, whatever it may be.

783
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's the ideal time of the year

784
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that. So I'm a turf killer in fall.

785
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Also turf luck, turf luck, turf luck.

786
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:26.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have any turf left to kill now,

787
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 2>so all my grass is long gone, and I am

788
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 2>loving it. But I am doing a lot of planting,

789
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and I am moving several things, especially like summerific hibiscus,

790
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff that's going to be dormant soon anyway.

791
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just those you know, those boxwoods that are going

792
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 2>to have to wait until next spring.

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00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm afraid now.

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00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>You did mention taking pictures or video of your landscape

795
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 1>at this time of the year, so that in February March,

796
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>when you start getting excited about spring, you can be

797
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:58.840
<v Speaker 1>reminded of what needs to happen and maybe what you

798
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 1>need to add to your landscape. Because generally people go

799
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 1>to garden centers in greenhouses in spring and they buy impulsively.

800
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>But if you go with a plan, odds are you're

801
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily going to buy as impulsively, So I do

802
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good idea. Does anybody really do it? Well?

803
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess to it because it.

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00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Depends on the kind of person you are. You know,

805
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>my husband is a very much a planner. He likes

806
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to have everything on paper, all planned out, and I

807
00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 2>just honestly personally cannot imagine trying to.

808
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:34.000
<v Speaker 3>To garden that way.

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00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's an organic, you know, experience

810
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 2>that you kind of have to do by feel, maybe

811
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>a little more so than by formula. But you know,

812
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to each their own. We all have our different approaches

813
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's what makes gardens and relationships work.

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00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Hey, let's end the show with a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of horticultural history, just for a moment. I

816
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>wanted to mention that I'm very interested. And a Dutchman

817
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 1>named Yon vander Hayden. And this guy Yon van Derhayden, yes,

818
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 1>around sixteen seventy three. It was a Dutch painter, but

819
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 1>he was also an inventor. He's the guy that's given

820
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:17.519
<v Speaker 1>credit for inventing the garden hose.

821
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:18.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you think about it, Amsterdam was one

823
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of those cities that where it's all wood buildings, a

824
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people living close to each other. Fire is

825
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>always a threat, a concern, and he sewed leather tubes

826
00:42:31.760 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 1>together and fifty foot lengths that would allow firefighters to

827
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 1>get closer to a fire. The rest is history. So

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00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you can argue about who invented the garden hose,

829
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to say Yan. Now it's spelled jam.

830
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Some people might say Jan, but I think in Dutch

831
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<v Speaker 1>it's Yon vander Hayden. Look for him. Fascinating story, a painter,

832
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.199
<v Speaker 1>an inventor, and he's the guy we can credit for

833
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 1>those garden hoses in our list.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Rick, as much as you and I

835
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>both resent hoses, I think at the end of the

836
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 2>day we are glad they exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we are. Thanks to you and thanks to you

838
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>for watching The Gardening Simplified Show Again we're on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>radio and podcast. Thank you Adrianna, and thank you Stacey.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you have yourself a great week.