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Speaker 5: What's up everyone? Welcome reader Syndicate. I'm Matthew here with
Speaker 5: Scrusten and back behind the scenes Spinser going to help
Speaker 5: us run it. And let's see. You got everybody waiting chat?
Speaker 5: What's up everyone? Jay, Doug White? People are I don't
Speaker 5: have my glasses on it so I can't read that
Speaker 5: small people are read the room totally, Kyle, what's up everyone?
Speaker 5: These ads are relentless. Oh the Twitch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it started with an ad that's fucking evil of Twitch.
Speaker 5: To two, Twitch has been I'm really disappointed in Twitch,
Speaker 5: like I have everything set completely off, but it doesn't matter,
Speaker 5: like they are just going to do what they do
Speaker 5: because they're gonna make money off your shit even if
Speaker 5: you don't. I mean, I don't know how YouTube was
Speaker 5: for people that didn't have YouTube like premium, like because
Speaker 5: that's the only way to watch it ad free. I
Speaker 5: don't know how it is on Rumble, to be honest
Speaker 5: with you, and I don't know if they just cut
Speaker 5: us off, like in the middle of talking and then
Speaker 5: it comes back in whenever the hell it wants. But
Speaker 5: that sucks. And yeah, anyways, how was your weeks Christen?
Speaker 2: Pretty good? Pretty good? I got some stuff about to
Speaker 2: be coming down, so I'm fucking happy about that.
Speaker 5: What do we got? Triangle Choke and TL one with.
Speaker 2: The one you know what it is?
Speaker 5: I don't know, Tuscan leather, Oh, Tufkin fleather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a those are those are gonna be
Speaker 2: coming down? And then I got probably a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks after that, Salen eighteen Ghost by d Garbage Cloud
Speaker 2: and then a D by Irene.
Speaker 5: That sounds good. Oh you know, Pinzer is a massive
Speaker 5: fan of the D by Irene. I mean I am too,
Speaker 5: but like she is over overwhelmed and overtaken by So
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to get a clone with that for
Speaker 5: you when we meet up.
Speaker 2: About that.
Speaker 5: Oh do you didn't keep clones?
Speaker 2: Well, no, this is just the last run of it
Speaker 2: because I like the I like the uh, what's it
Speaker 2: called the other irene uh stuff that I have. Yeah
Speaker 2: more because it can it can come out midzi, you know,
Speaker 2: like it does like that debus the propensity to do it,
Speaker 2: you know, like if you fuck up, and you know,
Speaker 2: I like retard proof cuts that like make me look
Speaker 2: better all the time instead of you know, like missing watering.
Speaker 2: You know it's the right time for two weeks and
Speaker 2: it like it's just boofy. You know, I'll get you
Speaker 2: high and all that, but it just doesn't have that
Speaker 2: super good quality that you're actually growing it for. You know.
Speaker 5: See, that's the one reason I don't like him D
Speaker 5: is that I just was I had a lot of
Speaker 5: boofiness come out of it, and a lot of the
Speaker 5: hybrids too. And granted, at the time when I was
Speaker 5: growing it a lot, I wasn't a great grower, so
Speaker 5: of course it was coming out boofy a lot, you know,
Speaker 5: but I didn't understand that there during that time. I
Speaker 5: just thought the clones sucked. And that's that is that's
Speaker 5: how that shit goes.
Speaker 2: Get Well, that's weird thing is I can grow like
Speaker 2: I grow D was pretty good. You know, boy, the
Speaker 2: D hybrids really do fucking kick my ass. Sometimes where
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it'll still it'll you know, everyone
Speaker 2: else that I give it to is like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is great all that shit, you know, but like
Speaker 2: I know that it's not, or at least not as
Speaker 2: good as it as it should be, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so what anything else coming down?
Speaker 2: Well then I have I do have, uh ascotti that's
Speaker 2: gonna be finishing up. Yeah, I got, I get. It's funny.
Speaker 2: I got past it because the dude thought he was
Speaker 2: a friend from Dallas was trying to give me in
Speaker 2: Blue the ninety one cut it, and Blue started flowering
Speaker 2: it first and was like, uh, this definitely isn't fucking Kim,
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh yeah, it doesn't quite look
Speaker 2: like and he sent me a picture and it was
Speaker 2: just beautiful and clistening and all that. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: well that's definitely not the ninety one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's not going to be the pretty one. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Early on Canado had kind of really early on passed
Speaker 5: it to me.
Speaker 6: It was just you know, well, you know it's I like, uh,
Speaker 6: it's fast, it's easy to grow, and the cut I
Speaker 6: don't know if I don't know if my friends selected
Speaker 6: it from seat or if he got it like you know,
Speaker 6: some certain cut from a person or some shit.
Speaker 2: But it's actually like it either it's either like it
Speaker 2: and kim og thing, you know, like instead of just
Speaker 2: bland like it didn't even like the water down og
Speaker 2: thing actually smells good where you're like, oh okay, cool,
Speaker 2: I can rock with this and it's got a got
Speaker 2: a pretty good potency to it. So yeah, that's like
Speaker 2: the only modern thing that I've enjoyed. Growing doesn't make
Speaker 2: me feel like, no, fucking well, I don't know if
Speaker 2: we can say that.
Speaker 5: One deleting r.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to walk that fine, fine line. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So one of the things that we were looking at
Speaker 5: and me and CSI have to happened to watch the
Speaker 5: same video yesterday and talk to each other about it independently.
Speaker 5: And it was from a channel on YouTube called Infographics,
Speaker 5: and they have a lot of great shows on their
Speaker 5: Most aren't about cannabis. Most are about like things going
Speaker 5: on in.
Speaker 7: The world, world wars, what will happen if, say, you know,
Speaker 7: Iran wins this war or this or that potentialities, But
Speaker 7: they did one and it's there.
Speaker 5: Are some things obviously we will take a different position
Speaker 5: on being in the middle of it. It's definitely an
Speaker 5: outsider's point of view. But he did a pretty good
Speaker 5: job of delivering some of the info in a way
Speaker 5: that people newer to cannabis, I think will understand better.
Speaker 5: And so we are going to be playing some clips
Speaker 5: from that, and we are going to be commenting on
Speaker 5: it while we are doing that. Because of course there's
Speaker 5: a Fair Use Act. There's a copyright disclaimer running at
Speaker 5: the bottom.
Speaker 2: If you want to watch you and you should watch
Speaker 2: the whole video, go over to his channel and watch it.
Speaker 5: Yep, And I put a link in the description to
Speaker 5: it so you can just go right to it. Watch
Speaker 5: the whole video from beginning to end. It's well worth it.
Speaker 5: I think it's well worth it. It's like I said, it
Speaker 5: is from a person who is not in cannabis. And yeah,
Speaker 5: we are sharing this video under the fair use doctrine
Speaker 5: and a transformative manner for public information, critique and commentary.
Speaker 5: All right, deserve to copyright video owners. And with that said,
Speaker 5: this is the first time that we're ever going to
Speaker 5: try to do this, so please please bear with us
Speaker 5: on this. I'm trying. We're going to start it. I
Speaker 5: think it was one twelve. Let's this start all right,
Speaker 5: Let's hope this works.
Speaker 8: Investors completely misunderstood the product they were selling. They thought
Speaker 8: that they were buying the next sit Appum, Quiet, next
Speaker 8: and Howzard Busch, the next Starbucks. What they actually bought
Speaker 8: was a heavily regulated agricultural commodity. It's closer in nature
Speaker 8: to soybeans, pork bellies, or timber than to consumer technology.
Speaker 8: And that mistake begins with some of the smartest people
Speaker 8: in finance making the simplest possible error in Judgment chapter two,
Speaker 8: the green.
Speaker 5: So they briefly mentioned there if you saw it, they
Speaker 5: thought they were going to be getting.
Speaker 8: Fundamental error. Investors completely misunderstood the product they were saying
Speaker 8: they were finding. Next to Apple, the next end Hazard Busch,
Speaker 8: the next Starbucks for.
Speaker 5: Starbucks, which literally in the in the newest Forbes article,
Speaker 5: they refer to this as, you know, like they want
Speaker 5: to be the Starbucks of weed. I can't true leave.
Speaker 5: And it shows a fundamental misunderstanding as well of those
Speaker 5: chads that own that company, not having any idea what
Speaker 5: they are doing. And here here's a.
Speaker 3: Green rush illusion.
Speaker 8: In fourteen, Colorado opened the first recreational market in American history,
Speaker 8: and the results were immediate. The stock charts went almost
Speaker 8: straight up, and venture capital did what it always does
Speaker 8: when numbers move like that, It chased the next platform wave,
Speaker 8: the next so and.
Speaker 5: Here, I would say a great example will be like
Speaker 5: SpaceX taking their product public. You see the big boner
Speaker 5: curve where it just goes straight up, and eventually when
Speaker 5: people start selling out selling their shares, you just start
Speaker 5: to see the other side of it.
Speaker 2: And what are you say, Well, they should have never
Speaker 2: expected the type of unlimited growth, Yes, that they're used to.
Speaker 2: This is a it's a product that takes months to make,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's not something that you can just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can crank the fucking pre rolls out on the
Speaker 2: machine whatever, but like, the actual based product takes forever
Speaker 2: to fucking grow and it's a real product. So whatever
Speaker 2: it sucks, you're not going to get as much money,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, And you know what doosed?
Speaker 5: When I had friends that were talking about getting into
Speaker 5: this side of the business, the uh, the part where
Speaker 5: you play juggle the fucking government's balls, I told them, Well,
Speaker 5: the quickest way to wake money wouldn't be wouldn't that
Speaker 5: just be to run a nursery as opposed to waiting
Speaker 5: for flour, Like it's almost an immediate return and as
Speaker 5: long as you're testing, and we will get to testing
Speaker 5: in a little bit. But uh yeah and.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bloodgates opened. Medmen opened a flagship store on Fifth Appens.
Speaker 5: Was it Medmen or medman.
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: I thought it was Medman Yeah.
Speaker 3: But in Manhattan.
Speaker 8: It was a slick operation with polished concrete floors, iPads
Speaker 8: on every counter, and staff in matching reds.
Speaker 5: Kind of high are you looking for today? I can
Speaker 5: read your brain. I can read the chemistry of your brain.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it. We got it here for you.
Speaker 2: Chert.
Speaker 8: The pitch to investors was explicit. This was the apple
Speaker 8: Store of night Men. But the ambitions didn't stop there.
Speaker 8: Justin Hartfield, the founder of weed Maps, framed it differently.
Speaker 8: He was going to build the Yelp of marijuana, others
Speaker 8: when he Yelp of marijuana even further casting themselves as
Speaker 8: the during gamble.
Speaker 2: I do think it's funny to see like those are
Speaker 2: like artifacts of a time before like Instagram really fully
Speaker 2: like came into its full form. You know, none of
Speaker 2: them fucking places need to pay to be on do
Speaker 2: any of that fucking ship. You can just give free
Speaker 2: stuff to a dumb ass and boom. You know, it
Speaker 2: doesn't take. Bikers did not see it, you know, like,
Speaker 2: who the fuck you yelp at all? Now, you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah. Weed maps is kind of a weird
Speaker 5: thing now too, especially here locally, because in California a
Speaker 5: lot of places are playing the game where they'll open
Speaker 5: for six months and then get knocked. You know, it's
Speaker 5: still playing. I mean people are still getting popped for
Speaker 5: running collectives, whether semi legal quasi legal, in the process
Speaker 5: of being legal, and yeah, I mean they get knocked
Speaker 5: all the time. So it's just not a very great
Speaker 5: market to be using weed maps because you can build
Speaker 5: up this profile on there and all of a sudden
Speaker 5: you get knocked and you're down, and then what do
Speaker 5: you do? You know, And it seems like people here
Speaker 5: locally have found a way to get around that, and
Speaker 5: it's just word of mouth and it's that fast, it's
Speaker 5: that easy. So I think I might have always been
Speaker 5: that way. They may never have needed a yelp for
Speaker 5: weed but you know, the young kids, I thought they
Speaker 5: were all using like TikTok and all that weird shit
Speaker 5: to do what they were doing and shouldn't have been
Speaker 5: and shouldn't have been doing shouldn't have been doing, okay.
Speaker 8: Just to consolidate a fragmented market under a massive house
Speaker 8: of brands each raised hundreds of millions of dollars on
Speaker 8: that promise. Then reality showed up. Cannabis isn't an iPhone.
Speaker 8: Artificial scarcity doesn't hold. There is nothing stopping a competitor
Speaker 8: from growing the same product just a few miles away
Speaker 8: and selling it for less in me.
Speaker 5: And this is where like I will insert and say
Speaker 5: from an outsider point of view that that could be correct.
Speaker 5: They could say they have the same clone and are
Speaker 5: growing in next door. It doesn't matter if they have
Speaker 5: the same clone and the growing in next door. One
Speaker 5: thing I for sure know is none of these collectives
Speaker 5: would be growing males right in the middle of all
Speaker 5: these other bands. But it was cool that they put
Speaker 5: a mail in there anyways, just for shits and giggles.
Speaker 5: But yes, a place could open next to you and
Speaker 5: claim they have the same clone, or maybe they do
Speaker 5: have the same clone, but that isn't even taken into
Speaker 5: account in any any sort of way in the legal market,
Speaker 5: and that's been like my pet peeve of all of it,
Speaker 5: like sourcing provenons. It is so much more important than
Speaker 5: people have ever realized and uh continue to not realize
Speaker 5: because weed is just weed, and cookies all kind of
Speaker 5: comes out the same. So they can call it gelotto,
Speaker 5: they could call it whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, it's weird because oftentimes you see people do care
Speaker 2: about that type of stuff in other things in their life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, they just don't understand it. And weed,
Speaker 5: it hasn't been brought brought into their brought to their
Speaker 5: tension in some way shape or form.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it like hasn't become palpable yet, you know,
Speaker 2: like it it's gonna take them getting like I don't know,
Speaker 2: real o G or something to be like oh wow, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: this is well grown real o G.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look what look at this second plant. Look
Speaker 5: at this little tiny mail It actually looks like a.
Speaker 2: Like a like.
Speaker 5: A a DJ short blueberry male like just saw dinky
Speaker 5: and tiny or.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, that looks a lot like when my
Speaker 2: friend uh like reveged but not all the way and
Speaker 2: just went right back into flower after like three weeks
Speaker 2: and they looked like peace lilies, almost like that, where yeah,
Speaker 2: big ass fucking leaves and weird little clusters on it.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is just like a six inch plant
Speaker 5: with just some little bit of balls, whereas plant number
Speaker 5: four right here is is more typical of mail. This one. Actually,
Speaker 5: number two is more what I would consider a plant
Speaker 5: that's been reversed, because it has tighter bud sets. You're
Speaker 5: not seeing balls hanging, whereas you can kind of see
Speaker 5: some balls hanging in male number four. And that's just
Speaker 5: totally nerdy, has nothing to do with the video. That's
Speaker 5: what happens when I look at shit. Sorry, guys, let's see. Uh,
Speaker 5: I want to make sure that we're not using too
Speaker 5: much of this video. Les youre we're at four forty
Speaker 5: nine was where we wanted to go to fourtors.
Speaker 2: Put it here, all right, Oh careers.
Speaker 8: The Pablo Escobar Law applies to a fifty eight year
Speaker 8: old woman selling pre rolls and Sacramento. A normal business
Speaker 8: making a million dollars in profit pays the IRS roughly.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and ten thousand.
Speaker 8: A dispensary making the exact same profit pays seven hundred thousand.
Speaker 8: The law was designed for cartels, but it's applied to
Speaker 8: the corner store, and that's just a federal layer. By
Speaker 8: the time California sackx XI sales and local taxes, thirty
Speaker 8: nine cents of every dollar in an LA dispensary is gone.
Speaker 8: And that is even before rent, before payroll, before anything.
Speaker 8: Two blocks away, a bottle of bourbon is taxed at
Speaker 8: less than a third of that tax. Something this hard,
Speaker 8: and people don't stop buying. They just stopped buying legally,
Speaker 8: and that alternative market exploded.
Speaker 5: Jeff, Ah, Yeah, I don't know about that. What the
Speaker 5: alternative market exploded, as far as liked, it exploded it
Speaker 5: in a way that it ruined it.
Speaker 2: I think that it got dude, I don't know, honestly.
Speaker 2: I think it just got replaced. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: brick anymore. It's just you know, this like backdoor product
Speaker 2: that because they don't fucking want to pay you know,
Speaker 2: the majority in fucking taxes, they're able to push out
Speaker 2: to a different state for fucking cheap because it's fucking
Speaker 2: cheap anyways. Yes, and that's you know, that's just kind
Speaker 2: of like replaced that the fucking Mexican brick that has
Speaker 2: always been you know, the bulk of the market has
Speaker 2: always been shitty fucking wed yes, because people are like,
Speaker 2: oh man, why would I pay you know, twenty bucks
Speaker 2: for a gram when I can get a half ounce?
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah.
Speaker 5: But what it did do when this all started happening
Speaker 5: with legalization, it drove the price of cannabis in the
Speaker 5: traditional market down to a minimum. And I tried explaining
Speaker 5: that to people, like even before it happened on a
Speaker 5: business level, businessmen with you know, multimillion billions of dollars
Speaker 5: enter a market, they expect to be in the red,
Speaker 5: which means to be at a loss for X amount
Speaker 5: of years, and they can afford to take that loss.
Speaker 5: That's a normal part of business. And they do that
Speaker 5: so that they drop the prices, and in mom and
Speaker 5: pop shops can't afford to compete at those prices and
Speaker 5: therefore start dropping out, slowly but surely. And that's what
Speaker 5: I've seen, that's what I've noticed a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not just forcing them to drop out, it's
Speaker 2: being able to buy them and take their market share. Yes,
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. It's an Amazon model, just in a different sector.
Speaker 2: You know, burn it down, buy it out, and you
Speaker 2: can keep the Ponzi scheme going. That's how I see it.
Speaker 2: It's just like a pond scheme on yourself, where you're
Speaker 2: that and investors, where you're just fucking running it until
Speaker 2: hopefully you get fucking bought out by some richer dickhead. Yes,
Speaker 2: who fucking you know.
Speaker 5: That's always what it was. It was all the people
Speaker 5: that all my friends that went legal, their whole thing
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, we're just gonna you know, someone's gonna
Speaker 5: buy us out. Someone's gonna buy us out. And it's like,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that's gonna go how you think.
Speaker 5: But I tried to be optimistic for them, but it
Speaker 5: was just never I couldn't do it myself. It didn't
Speaker 5: make any sense. I couldn't make rational sense of it.
Speaker 5: And and this is where, like, like we talked about
Speaker 5: looking in it, looking at it from the outsiders point
Speaker 5: of view. He's going to go on to chapter four,
Speaker 5: the shadow Empire wins, meaning that the black market wins
Speaker 5: by them doing this. But for me, that's something that
Speaker 5: I would project ten years from now as opposed to
Speaker 5: right away or even a year or two. And you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: It's I you know, I think that things will the
Speaker 2: balance will be restored eventually, eventually, but I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't even at this point, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would venture to guess that it doesn't even that
Speaker 2: it's not even like it's never going to be the
Speaker 2: commodity it was. You know, but even if you were
Speaker 2: to take those same prices, now everything fucking costs more grown.
Speaker 2: You know, everything involved in growing.
Speaker 5: Costmark, fertilizers, thank you Iran, thank you Iran.
Speaker 2: War electricity, fucking like literally everything costs more. Just shipping
Speaker 2: on your shit, yeah costs more, you know, So like everything,
Speaker 2: even taking those prices, you're still never gonna make the
Speaker 2: same you know, Like, and I don't think that it's
Speaker 2: going to be that kind of a thing anymore, you know.
Speaker 2: Like that's why I just hope that it gets fucking
Speaker 2: decriminalized so we can stop going to jail for having
Speaker 2: using and growing and giving people, you know, just gifted.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, here's a fucking jar. And then like
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to fucking run the road
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's up to you. Yeah, it always has been,
Speaker 2: you know, but just keep that part I legal whatever.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna see what he has to say about
Speaker 5: the shadow Empire winning and see if we agree or not.
Speaker 8: Therefore, the shadow Empire wins. California is illicit cannabis market
Speaker 8: moves roughly eight billion dollars a year. That's enough to
Speaker 8: fund the entire annual budget of the DEA, twice over
Speaker 8: the legal market moves three point nine billion.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna insert here that now with the newest
Speaker 5: bill written in, the DEA will be the middle Land
Speaker 5: and we will be If you are part of the
Speaker 5: legal market, you are going to be selling your weed
Speaker 5: to the DEA. The DEA will broker it, it will
Speaker 5: then sell it onto sellers, and it will be people
Speaker 5: a part of the DEA picking which strains get sold
Speaker 5: and which strains obviously get smoked in the end, and
Speaker 5: most of the people that work for the DEA aren't
Speaker 5: going to be smokers or well versed in this, and
Speaker 5: they don't give a fuck to hire someone say hey,
Speaker 5: let's go hire a straight expert. Do you think that's
Speaker 5: gonna happen? Probably not so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anyway, I just had to insert that part there because.
Speaker 2: They did try and do that. They're not going to
Speaker 2: get someone that any that's going to be helpful.
Speaker 5: No, No, they're going to get a swerve.
Speaker 2: They're going to get a fucking mouth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going to get a James Quiet or someone
Speaker 5: like that, zan x Ky, whatever he calls himself.
Speaker 8: Here in the state that pioneered medical legalization earlier than
Speaker 8: any other in America. The underground one. A legal dispensary
Speaker 8: on the corner sales an eighth of premium flour for
Speaker 8: sixty five bucks, and unlicensed shop two blocks away sales
Speaker 8: the same aid for thirty five. Customers don't care which
Speaker 8: store has a license. Customers care about the price. The
Speaker 8: illicit market undercuts the legal market by thirty five to
Speaker 8: forty percent on every transaction. That gap has nothing to
Speaker 8: do with marketing or branding. That gap is the tax code.
Speaker 8: In New York, the numbers get even uglier. The state
Speaker 8: issued just under two hundred retail licenses. There are roughly
Speaker 8: fourteen hundred unlicensed dispensaries operating openly in the city alone,
Speaker 8: seven illegal shops for every legal one approved across the
Speaker 8: entire state. They have signage, point of sale terminals identical
Speaker 8: to the legal stores.
Speaker 3: Yelp pages with thousands of five star reviews.
Speaker 8: A customer walking in can't tell the difference the owner
Speaker 8: doesn't want them to. In May twenty twenty four, the
Speaker 8: city launched something called Operation Padlock to protect Sheriff's deputies
Speaker 8: hit unlicensed shops and coordinated sweeps across all five boroughs.
Speaker 8: By the end of twenty twenty five, the operation had
Speaker 8: closed more than sixteen hundred illegal store.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here we go.
Speaker 5: This is one of the things that I wanted to
Speaker 5: point out to people outside the US have this idea,
Speaker 5: and even people inside the US that weed is legal
Speaker 5: at all levels. Please stop saying, please stop thinking, please
Speaker 5: stop acting like this. There's no good end to assuming
Speaker 5: that anything about this will be one hundred and Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think that it has a lot to do with this.
Speaker 5: Did you have any comments there?
Speaker 2: Screw Well, I think it'll be a little bit more
Speaker 2: relevant in a later part. Just the I think the
Speaker 2: distinguishing between the white and black market that they're doing
Speaker 2: is weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're making it seem more advantageous to be black market.
Speaker 2: Well, they're also making a much bigger what's the word,
Speaker 2: a much bigger like distinction between the two than I
Speaker 2: think actually exists.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, you know, like these these these people
Speaker 5: that they're talking about are selling the same exact weed
Speaker 5: from the same exact sources and backdooring it out to
Speaker 5: other states.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like, that's the name of the game. You know.
Speaker 2: Some of your fucking employees are brokers for other fucking
Speaker 2: you know, and that.
Speaker 5: Has nothing to do with the traditional market whatsoever. Like
Speaker 5: the people you know that are growing a few tents
Speaker 5: in their house or out back, this has nothing to
Speaker 5: do with any of that. Those people aren't moving their
Speaker 5: stuff to these you know, like illegal stores or whatever
Speaker 5: they're calling them, or the legal market like, and they're
Speaker 5: all kind of combining it into one and not making
Speaker 5: a very really clear case for that because again, I
Speaker 5: don't think they understand that part of what they're talking about.
Speaker 5: Would that be fair to say? Do you think that?
Speaker 2: I definitely, because it's you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: get you know, back in the day, all of it
Speaker 2: was illegal except for whatever was grown in like fucking
Speaker 2: Mississippi or whatever exactly. Yeah, so like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's like in because they get to the whole you know,
Speaker 2: like organized grows and stuff like that. You know. I yes,
Speaker 2: those have always been around, you know, but it's not
Speaker 2: that I don't even I don't even think that's the
Speaker 2: majority of black market like grows. You know, if you
Speaker 2: at least what's feeding the black market, you know, the
Speaker 2: vast majority of it is coming out of the same
Speaker 2: fucking place that's feeding the white market. Yes, it's all
Speaker 2: the same ones, just diverted to fucking you know, cover
Speaker 2: the costs of ay in seventy percent in taxes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got to be paid somehow, I see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and these guys. The one thing I appreciate about
Speaker 5: the video is I speak over people's heads because I'm
Speaker 5: half stupid, and this this really does break down a
Speaker 5: good portion of it. And you're also very good at
Speaker 5: breaking down what these guys are trying to say to a.
Speaker 2: More palatable form. Yeah, speak dummy, because I am a dummy.
Speaker 5: Say you're John the Baptist. Bro, you're John the Baptist.
Speaker 8: Think of it that way, of course, and seized over
Speaker 8: one hundred and thirteen million dollars of unlicensed product off
Speaker 8: the shelves. One single Queen's inspection uncovered about ten million
Speaker 8: worth of cannabis in one location. And yet even after
Speaker 8: all that, the state officials estimated that thousands of unlicensed jops.
Speaker 8: We're still actively trading. In New York City, stores were
Speaker 8: reopening in some cases within hours of the paddocks coming
Speaker 8: off the doors. In parts of South Los Angeles, you
Speaker 8: only need to wait until after dark to see the difference.
Speaker 8: The license dispensary on the corner it closes at nine,
Speaker 8: it'd be two customers inside, walk one block over, and
Speaker 8: the unlicensed shop stays open until two am. There's a
Speaker 8: security guard at the door, a line of cars waiting
Speaker 8: for delivery runners to come back out inside. The menu
Speaker 8: on a flat screen TV shows the same brands, the
Speaker 8: legal store cells, lower prices, cash only, no license anywhere
Speaker 8: on the wall. Los Angeles City Attorney Office has filed
Speaker 8: nuisance complaints against more than three hundred unlicensed shops since
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three. Two thirds of them reopened under a
Speaker 8: new name within ninety days.
Speaker 5: I still love watching this. Like in San Diego, that
Speaker 5: was the drill, but it was sixty days. It would
Speaker 5: be you get popped, sixty days, reopened, same name, same spot,
Speaker 5: same everything, reopened, and then they would give them six
Speaker 5: months to build back up, and then they'd slam them
Speaker 5: and then repeat. And this happened for years and years
Speaker 5: and years. I don't know how it necessarily works now
Speaker 5: because I don't deal with any of those places now.
Speaker 5: But yeah, same security guard. That's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 8: Often in the same building, the same security guard, the
Speaker 8: same menu, but a new sign over the door. The
Speaker 8: legal storefront across the street paid their rent, payroll and
Speaker 8: taxes the entire time and watched its margin shrink with
Speaker 8: every reopening. But the real sophistication has moved beyond the storefronts.
Speaker 8: In northern California, in Humboldt County, deep in the Emerald Trianglear,
Speaker 8: federal investigators are starting to document something new. Licensed cultivators
Speaker 8: are using their state issued license numbers as cover on paper.
Speaker 8: They grow exactly what California authorizes, but that's only part
Speaker 8: of the operation. Inside those same buildings, they're growing ten
Speaker 8: times more off of the books, and that product doesn't
Speaker 8: stay in California. It moves across state lines to New York, Florida.
Speaker 5: Okay, let's let's let's go easy on Humboldt here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely picking on them, like it's not fucking.
Speaker 5: At Windo in Trinity County and fucking Bakersfield or wherever,
Speaker 5: you know, like it could be anywhere in.
Speaker 2: California, Texas where prices are a bunch of those fuck
Speaker 2: and like huge grows in that essentially waste land of
Speaker 2: fucking middle California.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yep. And yeah, and of course a lot
Speaker 5: of times they say stuff like Humboldt or certain parts
Speaker 5: in NorCal because there are forests there, you know, protective
Speaker 5: forests there, and that way they can call anybody who's
Speaker 5: doing anything over there cartel. They don't want you to
Speaker 5: know that these are families, but these are you know,
Speaker 5: families been doing this for three or four generations. They'd
Speaker 5: rather you think they were cartel growing in the national
Speaker 5: forest and you can't go see your national forest because
Speaker 5: you know you might get shot by someone, you know,
Speaker 5: some cartel dude. They would very much like it to
Speaker 5: be that way, even though I think our national forests
Speaker 5: are now data centers, soon to be data centers, that's
Speaker 5: another story.
Speaker 8: Are triple what California pays, and it goes even deeper
Speaker 8: than individual operators. In recent years, federal authorities have traced
Speaker 8: large scale California growing operations to transnational criminal organizations. In
Speaker 8: one Sacramentary is sweep, federal agents moved on dozens of
Speaker 8: grow houses that allegedly were underwritten by Chinese organized crime.
Speaker 8: Then Attorney General Jeff Sessions called one of the largest
Speaker 8: residential forfeiture actions in American history. Similar operations have been
Speaker 8: uncovered in Colorado and Washington, where cash bought homes are
Speaker 8: converted into industrial scale growhouses whose product is shipped east,
Speaker 8: never appearing in any legal sales report. A pound of
Speaker 8: California indoor flower cells for eight hundred bucks in Los Angeles,
Speaker 8: that same pound.
Speaker 5: A pound for eight hundred in LA next.
Speaker 3: To Manhattan, sells for two five.
Speaker 5: Twenty five hundred in the East Coast. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know I can get a pound
Speaker 2: right now for probably six hundred.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, I'm like, huh.
Speaker 8: Through Florida's underground delivery networks. It can clear three thy
Speaker 8: two hundreds. No legal supply chain can touch those margins.
Speaker 8: The most national operators in California cannabis right now are
Speaker 8: running licenses as a front, not running chains, and the government,
Speaker 8: the federal enforcement machine that was supposed to police all
Speaker 8: of this, has faded into the background. DA cannabis seizures
Speaker 8: dropped thirty three percent between twenty eleven and twenty twenty,
Speaker 8: the agency moved its resources to fentanyl. The corporations chase
Speaker 8: a market the government taxed into the ground. The government
Speaker 8: chases a supply that regrows every ninety days. And in
Speaker 8: the middle of it all, a small group of operators
Speaker 8: keep the lights on, the staff paid, and the.
Speaker 5: Not if they've grown.
Speaker 8: At Hayes Doors Open Chapter five, the micro survivors off
Speaker 8: Washington Boulevard in Los Angeles. There's a small dispensary called Mecha.
Speaker 8: The product on the shelves is mostly grown by people
Speaker 8: the owner knows by first name. Noel Fronts opened the
Speaker 8: store because she couldn't find the kind of cannabis she
Speaker 8: actually wanted to buy. Her model is the opposite of
Speaker 8: the Apple store wheat. She integrates with a small group
Speaker 8: of cultivators she has personally vetted. She tests every batch
Speaker 8: herself if a grower's qualities.
Speaker 5: Okay, come on, I do.
Speaker 2: I do like the model.
Speaker 5: Though the model would be great if this per was
Speaker 5: like one of the upper echelon people that has been
Speaker 5: in the business for many, many years that knows what
Speaker 5: the fuck she's passing on and could identify what these
Speaker 5: clones are over. That's the one thing I'm so fucking
Speaker 5: animal about that though I know it drives people nuts,
Speaker 5: but I.
Speaker 2: Mean, at least, you know, in terms of what weed
Speaker 2: is now on the on the bigger you know, in
Speaker 2: the the bigger you know, market of stuff, like at
Speaker 2: least having someone who's fucking smoking it and being like, look,
Speaker 2: you focus on growing and I'll sell it if it's good,
Speaker 2: I'll sell it. If it's not, I won't. That's in
Speaker 2: a traditional way, a thing held up, you know, because
Speaker 2: like now I'm gonna be trying even harder, because you know,
Speaker 2: if you're going to actually pay me when I grow good,
Speaker 2: then I'm going to try and grow well, you know.
Speaker 2: But like if it doesn't matter and you're only gonna
Speaker 2: give me like a fucking price, that makes me cry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna try at all. Why the fuck would
Speaker 2: I Yeah, why you're gonna pay the same amount anyways,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I just wish there were more people in
Speaker 5: this position where she is. They knew what they were
Speaker 5: talking about. I mean, there are a few collectives out
Speaker 5: there that people assume, you know, like know what's going on,
Speaker 5: like whether it's archive in Portland, you know, where you
Speaker 5: can go buy a cut a forum and end up
Speaker 5: with Tropic Canic cook Ease or toad Venom for I
Speaker 5: don't know, one K to five K clone and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you get something else. Like it's
Speaker 5: really hard to find people to trust in that exact position.
Speaker 5: And I don't think it'll get any easier. I don't
Speaker 5: think anybody's getting much smarter. I think it's getting harder.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's I mean, dude, think about so think
Speaker 2: about like the fucking like latest you know, uh generation
Speaker 2: of people you know coming to who are you know,
Speaker 2: refilling the ranks. Yeah, think of what they've had access to,
Speaker 2: you know, like ooh rough fucking time, Yeah, to learn
Speaker 2: anything to fucking you know, Like, I mean, it was
Speaker 2: hard enough without like being you know, with only like
Speaker 2: being local and stuff, you know, like not being fucking
Speaker 2: deep in the scene or knowing uh people who are
Speaker 2: deep in the scene and all of that. Like's it
Speaker 2: was hard enough to fucking learn actual you know shit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now fuck impossible, almost impossible you know without having someone
Speaker 2: who's like, hey, stop being fucking retarded, Yeah, and you
Speaker 2: actually are and they actually know what they're talking about
Speaker 2: it's fucking a the next ten years of weed and
Speaker 2: is I'm hopeful, but only because you know, enough fucking
Speaker 2: people haven't died yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that again, we're talking about dispensaries.
Speaker 5: We're talking about concentrates as well. With more dispensaries, with
Speaker 5: more availability, I do think death will. I mean, there
Speaker 5: was a brand new science paper I was going to
Speaker 5: show last week on CHS, but it's gotten it's gotten ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Like twenty four thousand patients in a city are being
Speaker 5: seen per month for CHS at this point, and that's
Speaker 5: a lot, and it's it's becoming hard for a lot
Speaker 5: of the people who think it's kneem oil or that
Speaker 5: it's propaganda to push back on that anymore, because eventually,
Speaker 5: if they dab and they and people say, I smoke
Speaker 5: a puff tough, you know whatever, you're eventually going to
Speaker 5: run into it if you do enough damage and you
Speaker 5: and it could be genetic some of it, like you
Speaker 5: know you predisposed genetically, but.
Speaker 2: That one's that that might be a key factor. And
Speaker 2: like whether you do or don't like hit that switch.
Speaker 5: Yes, I do think. I just as someone who's been
Speaker 5: through it. I do think that there there are people
Speaker 5: who will push that limit and will flip it no
Speaker 5: matter what. I think. I think it is possible to
Speaker 5: flip it, no matter what, because it has to get
Speaker 5: to the CB one receptor and you can destroy those
Speaker 5: neurons and.
Speaker 2: Those one grand dab challenges. Ain't looking too good now?
Speaker 5: Uh no, no, not at all, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's clips for one harvest. They're removed from the shelves.
Speaker 8: Customers come to Mecca because they trust Noel's name above
Speaker 8: the door, not the brand on the jar. Corporate dispensary
Speaker 8: has had buyers in distant offices placing orders spreadsheets. Mecca
Speaker 8: has Noel on the floor talking to a regular about
Speaker 8: what they bought last month and what came in fresh
Speaker 8: this week.
Speaker 5: Hey, dude, how is that Jelato for? You? Got me
Speaker 5: so I can't even remember, bro.
Speaker 8: She remembers their preferences, She remembers the strain they didn't
Speaker 8: like in March. A model like that will never scale
Speaker 8: to one hundred locations. That's the point. Across down in
Speaker 8: West Los Angeles, j Handle runs Erba. He took a
Speaker 8: different path. Herba acts almost like a marketplace through licensed distributors.
Speaker 8: Small cultivator supply the product to Herba's shelves and only
Speaker 8: get paid when their product sells well. Herba legally takes ownership.
Speaker 8: They never buy the product upfront. That single decision means
Speaker 8: Erba is not sitting on millions of dollars of unsold
Speaker 8: flour the way corporate chains were. When the price is crashed,
Speaker 8: the cultivator carries the risk. The cultivator is also the
Speaker 8: person who knows the product best. When prices fall, the
Speaker 8: cultivator absorbs the hit. When a strain takes off, the
Speaker 8: cultivator receives the benefits. Herba collects a percentage and never
Speaker 8: holds the financial Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Think they're giving the cultivator a lot more credit than
Speaker 5: they deserve what they got, And but at least the
Speaker 5: cultivator should hopefully know whether they're uh supply is better
Speaker 5: grown than the last time. Didn't know that much.
Speaker 2: I really don't agree with that with that business model
Speaker 2: in particular, other than I don't know, maybe like if
Speaker 2: you're like a wholesaler, that's because that is what wholesalers like.
Speaker 2: That's that business plan, not fucking retail. So what am
Speaker 2: I just going to tell my fucking electric company. Well
Speaker 2: just wait, I gotta wait until I get paid, you know,
Speaker 2: like exactly. That's fucking okay, cool man. I just you know,
Speaker 2: like at the least spent two weeks.
Speaker 9: Growing, paying the fucking bills on this crop, and then
Speaker 9: three weeks like drying, getting it ready to actually go
Speaker 9: to the you know, and then yeah, oh, you're just
Speaker 9: gonna hold onto it, cool man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucked you know.
Speaker 5: And that's that's the part where the EA comes in,
Speaker 5: and then they have to sell it. And then after
Speaker 5: it's sold, supposedly you have to wait another thirty days
Speaker 5: before they pay you out. And yeah, that's really really
Speaker 5: scary dealing with.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, then you got nothing. That's what if
Speaker 2: they do is essentially be a fucking vampire to get
Speaker 2: the last bit of life out of as much of
Speaker 2: the fucking market as they can.
Speaker 5: And do I see that possible in this current administration. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I've seen them do it with Crypto. I've seen them
Speaker 5: do it with their name stamped on the Crypto and
Speaker 5: rug pool. So why wouldn't they have the DEA do
Speaker 5: the same thing. It's a definite possibility. It's not like
Speaker 5: they are tied down by anything written. It's still fucking weed, right,
Speaker 5: it's still the dea. They can find any number of
Speaker 5: ways to make your licenses disappear and or be not
Speaker 5: quite right. So yeah, that's my commentary on that.
Speaker 8: Feel risk of an item longer than a customer takes
Speaker 8: to walk it out the door. The result is a
Speaker 8: shelf that updates faster than any corporate chain can match.
Speaker 8: New strains appear weekly, Bad strains disappear within days. The
Speaker 8: customer who walks in on a Friday night knows they
Speaker 8: will not see the same selection they saw on a Monday.
Speaker 8: URBA has turned inventory turnover, the slowest, most boring metric
Speaker 8: in retail into a marketing weapon.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I don't see how that would even functionally work.
Speaker 5: Friday they didn't like the weed, and Monday they got
Speaker 5: a whole new supply of something different other than renaming it.
Speaker 5: That doesn't make a lot of sense unless they constantly
Speaker 5: have backups of backups of different strains running. But in
Speaker 5: that we know how that works. Like, you have to
Speaker 5: do some selection too. You can't just pop a few
Speaker 5: seeds or grab a clone from a homie and expect
Speaker 5: that to satiate their needs.
Speaker 2: Well, because they're getting from a distributor, right, that's yeah,
Speaker 2: another thing I don't get. So what the distributor is
Speaker 2: just waiting on the fucking money too, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all system works. That whole fucking
Speaker 2: having to go through a distribution center licensed thing is
Speaker 2: the dumbest fucking I get that. They're, oh, we gotta
Speaker 2: fucking like try and control it better. Well, what if
Speaker 2: I just don't send it to the distribution place, you know,
Speaker 2: Like if I'm going to sell to the black market,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking get it there. Regardless of all these
Speaker 2: extra steps. All you're doing is making it almost certain
Speaker 2: that that is the route that this is gonna go.
Speaker 2: Exactly is going to sit in this distribution unit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: until they love you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and imagine how much degradation goes and as it sits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can't like leave the fan leaves on
Speaker 2: and like, hey, you guys do the final trim off
Speaker 2: the whole, you know, like for that extra weight in trim,
Speaker 2: but like to try and at least give it subtype
Speaker 2: of longevity and protection and.
Speaker 5: Telling humidity, perfect humidity settings, like a humid door for
Speaker 5: it and all that. Do you see them doing that? No,
Speaker 5: I don't, that's just me.
Speaker 8: In Long Beach, Bobby Vechio and his partner Nick run
Speaker 8: RB a delivery operation. There's no storefront, no rent, and
Speaker 8: no glass cases. It's a reputation built on showing up
Speaker 8: at your door within thirty minutes with the exact products
Speaker 8: you ordered by a driver who remembers your name on
Speaker 8: the second visit. A retail dispensary in Long Beach pays
Speaker 8: twelve thousand to thirty thousand dollars a month in rent.
Speaker 8: HERB pays for cars and gas. Bobby answers his own phone.
Speaker 8: Nick handles the route logistics from a laptop at his
Speaker 8: kitchen table. The combined monthly fixed cost of running HERB
Speaker 8: is roughly what a single Medmen location used to pay
Speaker 8: for window cleaning. When a corporate chain misroutes an order,
Speaker 8: the customer waits a week for an apology email. When
Speaker 8: HERB misroutes an order, Bobby drives the replacement to the
Speaker 8: customer's door himself.
Speaker 5: That's except for the fact when the person that answers
Speaker 5: that door has a weapon and takes your you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, like they're leaving that part out. Delivery
Speaker 5: services are dangerous. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I was visiting my my, uh my grandpa and
Speaker 2: grandma on Oceanside, there was an this was like two
Speaker 2: thousand and twelve probably, there was like an ad for
Speaker 2: a dry you know, a delivery service, but they only
Speaker 2: had hot chicks. Yeah, and that just seemed like, Oh,
Speaker 2: that seems like there's gonna be a fucking like you're
Speaker 2: asking I get the idea.
Speaker 5: Oh cool, yes, sex cells, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you're fucking putting those girls in.
Speaker 5: Danger, major danger, like double danger, triple dangers in some cases. Yeah,
Speaker 5: not this guy, Yo, my bad. I'm gonna show up
Speaker 5: with the big box and.
Speaker 8: Replace the same night, often within the hour. Three operations,
Speaker 8: zero venture funding, no ten figure valuations, nobody pretending to
Speaker 8: be the next to anything. What they are is profitable.
Speaker 8: What they're doing is what every main street business in
Speaker 8: America has always done. Stay small enough to know your customer,
Speaker 8: agile enough to change with the market, honest enough to
Speaker 8: keep the regulars walking back in through the door. They are,
Speaker 8: when you cut through everything else, the only part of
Speaker 8: the legal cannabis industry that actually works, and the system
Speaker 8: is about to change again.
Speaker 3: It'll be the one that finishes them.
Speaker 5: Chapter six, the big Pharma takeover. And I don't know
Speaker 5: how much we want to go into this because this
Speaker 5: is essentially what we're watching right now.
Speaker 2: Well I did. I did put a timestamp because they
Speaker 2: did it explain like the I guess Break Break, you know,
Speaker 2: the fucking one oh one version of it that like
Speaker 2: explains why it's bad for everybody, and weed.
Speaker 5: Okay, good, here we go, got it.
Speaker 8: The playing the cannabis industry celebrated. Stock surged, Tilray Canopy
Speaker 8: cure a leaf All rows twenty percent in a day.
Speaker 8: Trade publications ran headlines about a new dawn. Twitter filled
Speaker 8: up with founders posting Champagne emojis. Then the realization donned
Speaker 8: schedule free is the same legal classification as ketamine, as
Speaker 8: tile it all with coding as anapholic steroids, which means
Speaker 8: cannabis legally becomes a strictly regulated medical product. An unapproved
Speaker 8: prescription drug cannot be sold the way Mecha sells it.
Speaker 8: The model RBA has perfected remains a direct violation of
Speaker 8: federal law. Bobby's unmarked delivery car is still committing a
Speaker 8: federal trafficking violation, just under a different set of rules
Speaker 8: pharmaceuticals require FDA approof manufacturing facilities, clinical trial data, audit trails,
Speaker 8: compliance costs That can bury a small operator and Noel
Speaker 8: does not have that kind of money.
Speaker 5: And Noel still rocking with that little tiny mail. No
Speaker 5: one needs to step it up.
Speaker 8: Neither does Bobby, and neither does ERBA. No independent operator
Speaker 8: on the West Coast can afford it. They are being
Speaker 8: priced out the moment the rule lands, but big pharma can.
Speaker 8: In twenty eighteen, the FDA approved the cannabis derived to
Speaker 8: medicare for the first time in American history. The drug
Speaker 8: was called at BI dialects. It was a purified form
Speaker 8: of CBD manufactured in the United Kingdom and to proved
Speaker 8: to treat two rare forms of childhood at FLEs.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that's correct, because I remember SETVX
Speaker 5: being the very first cannabis approved, and that was in
Speaker 5: the USA. Had to do with Rob Clark and and Skunkman,
Speaker 5: but and marinol as well.
Speaker 2: Well. But like so EPI dialects, they actually grow weed.
Speaker 2: It's an extraction, oh, instead of because I think like marinol,
Speaker 2: they I think it's like derived from soy or some
Speaker 2: type of oil that they then convert and like do
Speaker 2: weird chemistry magic to turn into THC okay instead of
Speaker 2: actually because they have yeah, like I've seen their their facility,
Speaker 2: like videos of it and stuff, and it's like a
Speaker 2: big mix light thing.
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 8: The DEA initially placed it in Schedule five. Two years
Speaker 8: later they pulled it out of the controlled substance schedules entirely.
Speaker 8: The list price for a year of Epidialects is thirty
Speaker 8: two thousand, five hundred dollars per page. That same compound
Speaker 8: in its raw form can be bought at a California
Speaker 8: dispensary for a tiny fraction of that. The compound is
Speaker 8: not different, The plant is not different. What changed was
Speaker 8: the regulatory category. Once a product crosses into the pharmaceutical
Speaker 8: column of the Ledger, it is priced like a pharmaceutical,
Speaker 8: sold like a pharmaceutical, and protected like a pharmaceutical. Altria
Speaker 8: already holds a multi billion dollar steak in Kronos. British
Speaker 8: American tobacco owns nearly thirty percent of Canadian cannabis producer Organogram.
Speaker 8: The tobacco companies and pharmaceutical companies have spent the last
Speaker 8: five years discreetly buying their seats at the table while
Speaker 8: the press obsessed over corporate cannabis flameouts.
Speaker 3: The lobbying numbers tell the rest of the story.
Speaker 8: The pharmaceutical and health products industry spent over three hundred
Speaker 8: million dollars on federal lobbying and twenty twenty five alone.
Speaker 3: The fight is not even close.
Speaker 8: When the FDA writes the new rules, they'll be written
Speaker 8: for companies that already operate inside FDA frameworks, not for
Speaker 8: Noel fronts on Pico Boulevard. By the time the regulations
Speaker 8: land in full, the dispensary as we know it won't exist.
Speaker 8: The government that was supposed to legitimize it taxed it
Speaker 8: into a slow motion shutdown. The shadow market that was
Speaker 8: supposed to die has doubled in size, and the handful
Speaker 8: of independence who figured out how to make this work
Speaker 8: are about to find out that the next phase of
Speaker 8: legalization was never designed for them in the first place.
Speaker 8: In modern America, the green rush ends the same way
Speaker 8: every other rush ends. The only real question left is
Speaker 8: how long Noel, j, Bobby, and Nick have left to
Speaker 8: keep the lights on before they belong to someone else.
Speaker 8: The clock is already ticking but nobody told them when
Speaker 8: it started. Under all the markets laws and loopholes, it
Speaker 8: still comes back to something simpler, what actually goes on
Speaker 8: when cannabis is consumed. Find out what happens to your
Speaker 8: body when smoking weed or.
Speaker 5: Now that is a whole nother one. And this gets
Speaker 5: into chs and stuff like that. But for this episode,
Speaker 5: we're going to go ahead and keep it to that.
Speaker 5: And I apologize to everyone. I haven't been able to
Speaker 5: look at the chat room while this is going on,
Speaker 5: So if there were any good questions, I want to
Speaker 5: be able to go back and see them. I got
Speaker 5: my cha Champa hat on. So it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 5: I gotta take it up. Shout out to Denali and v.
Speaker 4: All Right, I haven't seen any in particular.
Speaker 5: See anybody see any good questions? And if if, if
Speaker 5: you have a good question, go ahead and repeat it
Speaker 5: so that I can seize it. What's up? Pat? You
Speaker 5: in here to August West? All kinds of peoples? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We uh? Should we do the ad read before
Speaker 2: going on to questions? And I definitely want to get
Speaker 2: to talking about what we have planned?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, so actually you know what do you want
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Speaker 5: Freeman dot com your good needs. Are there any future
Speaker 5: collabs with anyone from the can Illuminati? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Me and Pac need to do something soon. I've got
Speaker 5: some things I want to do. I'm I I have
Speaker 5: to work on the banana tie. It's it's it's got
Speaker 5: to happen. I got to bring it back. I doubt
Speaker 5: anyone will be interested in it, but it's I'm doing
Speaker 5: it for me. It was a special plant. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: I'll be doing that for me. I don't care if
Speaker 5: anybody doesn't want it, doesn't matter, uh, because yeah, that's
Speaker 5: that's We're only here to talk about history anyways. But
Speaker 5: but we also have the stony Iomi collabs. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure how many are left, but one is the dog
Speaker 5: Shit across to the blue Bonnet F two and the
Speaker 5: other is my brain is farting today shore line shoreline
Speaker 5: blue bonnet. And for those goodie bag people, maybe they
Speaker 5: could you know find out in the discord what uh yeah,
Speaker 5: more about that because there will be there's cool clubs
Speaker 5: in there, Syrian and Lebanese. One of my fucking favorites
Speaker 5: is uh something CSI sent me called poop, Poop and
Speaker 5: pee and it's dog shit and HP thirteen. For those
Speaker 5: of you who don't know about HP thirteen, it was
Speaker 5: one of the most hunted clones in the history of clones.
Speaker 5: Like everybody wanted it, nobody wanted to give it up.
Speaker 5: The Hawaiians and the New Yorkers were trying to keep
Speaker 5: that shit on lock. Yeah, and here it is across
Speaker 5: to Electric Bluloo dog shit. So there you go.
Speaker 2: All right, did a bunch of people buy the shore
Speaker 2: I have no clue.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know a thing about sales, but uh,
Speaker 5: I'm sure. I'm sure people got their hands on something somewhere,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yeah, I would think so
Speaker 5: Shoreline's popular. And did you see what I saw?
Speaker 2: Oh archive thing.
Speaker 5: Archive, Yeah, that was really weird. He was talking about
Speaker 5: how shoreline is ship and not anything not worth a ship,
Speaker 5: and then I saw he made a cross with it
Speaker 5: and then proceeded to call it the skunkiest or not
Speaker 5: not roadkill skunk, but the skunkiest, stinkiest stuff he's ever
Speaker 5: grown and smelled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot. That was the weird Well he didn't
Speaker 2: that was that the I think it's short By. I
Speaker 2: don't know what. I don't know if it's the fifty
Speaker 2: six or not, but it's shore By headband. Yeah, from
Speaker 2: skunk Tech.
Speaker 5: I guess, oh, God knows.
Speaker 2: I guess selling a cut of whatever. I don't know
Speaker 2: who made the selection or whatever. But it was very
Speaker 2: weird to see him fighting so hard about how like
Speaker 2: pretty much saying there's just not it's not worth anything,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And then I mean I asked him like,
Speaker 2: aren't you selling the cut of a yeah, and like yeah,
Speaker 2: just fucking seeing that it's just weird. I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's my experience as much. That's that's that's how I
Speaker 5: know him to be. So I don't even but yeah,
Speaker 5: he's just kind of I can't.
Speaker 2: Sell you that do that.
Speaker 5: But if it's skunk Tech, God knows what fucking headband
Speaker 5: it is, God knows, God knows. I watched him take
Speaker 5: in a lot and think it's real. I like the guy,
Speaker 5: like the guy. Wish wish I would have gotten the
Speaker 5: mini split back. But hey, that's if that's how you do,
Speaker 5: do what you do, you do what you do. It's
Speaker 5: short line of terpineline dominant line mistress screw.
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out tealing, like cause I
Speaker 2: don't typically smell it the way. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: always is like a fucking we were actually talking about
Speaker 2: this right before the show. Like tealing to me is
Speaker 2: very often just like a midzy citrus smell. To me,
Speaker 2: I do like when it's like a weird there is
Speaker 2: like another you know, side of the coin where it's
Speaker 2: like a weird I don't know, there's like a weird
Speaker 2: thing going on under that it's just like fucking strong
Speaker 2: and pungent and stuff. But no, I mean I don't
Speaker 2: think that. Sure, there is definitely like a bit of
Speaker 2: like a a little bit of like citrus brightness in
Speaker 2: there that I mean, I've seen one of my friends
Speaker 2: I don't get it out of his run of it
Speaker 2: at all, you know, like that brightness coming out of
Speaker 2: the funk. But I don't even know what.
Speaker 5: To I've had piss out of it, pissiness like smelling
Speaker 5: some of the outdoor but it wasn't the same as
Speaker 5: the pissiness that people refer to interpenoling. It wasn't. It
Speaker 5: was not it was it actually smelled like urine, human urine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the in the skyline, they're like my favorite one.
Speaker 2: I called it the piss and Guava because like it
Speaker 2: was like like not just like human piss, but like
Speaker 2: it smelled like dark human piss, you know, to where
Speaker 2: you'd be like, hey, bro, you need to drink some water,
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, go to the hospital too like that. Yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 5: Hey, August, thank you and Cody, thank you for your donations. Honest,
Speaker 5: do you have a question, Like for donating like that,
Speaker 5: you should be able to get your fucking any question
Speaker 5: you want answered or any insult anything, So feel free.
Speaker 5: Same same with you, mister Cody.
Speaker 2: Which on that, I do have a question, do you
Speaker 2: because I can't compare that like shore Funk two other
Speaker 2: stuff really other than it's hybrids. Yeah, but as someone
Speaker 2: who's grown a much wider, like weirder, you know, like
Speaker 2: lines and stuff, do you see it like any type
Speaker 2: of crossover and other stuff that not at all?
Speaker 5: I can't Like I could say there's probably skunk one
Speaker 5: in it, but that's about it.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 5: Other than that, all the all the like that fermented nasty,
Speaker 5: not quite fruit but not quite not fruit, uh, because
Speaker 5: calling it fruity would make people think it's super sweet,
Speaker 5: and it's not super sweet. No, there's nothing. There's there's
Speaker 5: not another strain I can think of where I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: I can really pick that out. In short line, that's
Speaker 5: what I'm sure of. I would assume skunk ones in it,
Speaker 5: but it may not even have skunk one in it.
Speaker 5: You know, usually when I when skunk ones in something,
Speaker 5: you're gonna smell some sort of mango in the outcross
Speaker 5: or something like that, because that's a pretty dominant smell
Speaker 5: for skunk one at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem like in the because I've run
Speaker 2: quite a few hybrids now and I haven't seen that
Speaker 2: type of which, don't get me wrong. Also, I haven't
Speaker 2: fucking well, I probably did run skunk one buying like,
Speaker 2: you know, just random fucking you know packs that I
Speaker 2: thought were fire or whatever. Yeah, but yeah, I haven't
Speaker 2: seen anything. You know. It's it's weird because it's it
Speaker 2: passes through pretty you know, dominantly in in crosses and
Speaker 2: like it had to fucking come from somewhere. You know,
Speaker 2: there was only so much. It's not like, you know,
Speaker 2: some Yogi came out of the fucking mountains to bestow
Speaker 2: this single seat, you know, like, yeah, from something. But
Speaker 2: I just haven't seen anything that's you know, that has crossover.
Speaker 5: One of the things that I can say is that
Speaker 5: Madjagg was talking about Mexicans and those deeply serrations, referring
Speaker 5: to all all the Mexicans he was seeing back in
Speaker 5: the day if I remember correctly. I don't want to
Speaker 5: misquote him, and he'll let me know if I misquote him.
Speaker 5: But he had noted that that deep serration was a
Speaker 5: Mexican trade, so maybe it could be something like a
Speaker 5: Mexican brick seat. Like for all we fucking know, those
Speaker 5: those serrations are very very identifiable in shoreline. I would say.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, it's pretty fucking characteristic when you like, when
Speaker 2: you look at it, at least definitely when it doesn't
Speaker 2: when someone's like, oh, yeah, I got sure, and then
Speaker 2: you see it like now the regular leaves. Don't try
Speaker 2: and fool me.
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, that happened on Facebook. This It was
Speaker 5: a really nice guy and he was part of the
Speaker 5: Overgrower reunion spot on Facebook where it's a bunch of
Speaker 5: the guys from overgrow and I'm in there and the
Speaker 5: guy was like, yeah, I just crushed shore line to
Speaker 5: the I forgot what he called it, but it was
Speaker 5: the it was from Stacy.
Speaker 10: It's Stacy's he uh, basically the pea bud, but I
Speaker 10: forgot what name it was given it's a pea bud.
Speaker 5: And the guy was all, yeah, I just pollinated this
Speaker 5: with the pa bud and it was like it looked
Speaker 5: like almost like a deep chunk after any type plant.
Speaker 5: I'm like, they dark, that is not shoreline, and some people,
Speaker 5: of course start jumping my ass like ooh, your asshole
Speaker 5: always coming in, they say. I showed him a picture
Speaker 5: of Hayan Lonesome's grow out doors. And then someone else
Speaker 5: that was familiar with it from back in the day,
Speaker 5: of course, was like, oh yeah, that shoreline right there
Speaker 5: with that guy showing up at the top is not shoreline.
Speaker 5: So at least I had some some of the old
Speaker 5: guys coming in like that, that's right. Riot. Iowei ritual
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty fucking excited about I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I've been I've been crying at the to the rooftops
Speaker 2: and the blue shore.
Speaker 5: I think there's so much potential in it wise.
Speaker 2: Oh that plus, dude, the I'm gonna be excited, just
Speaker 2: like growing the garbage cloud, like growing an easy like
Speaker 2: very easy to nail shore that has you know, a
Speaker 2: better fucking flower structure for like the actual smoking experience.
Speaker 2: You know that because you know even better growers grows
Speaker 2: of shore. It's still like you could tell that if
Speaker 2: it it's almost like the like the bracts are like
Speaker 2: got thicker over time or something, or like are thicker,
Speaker 2: like the actual tissue of the brac is thicker, so
Speaker 2: like it smokes better or whatever. Yeah, and it shore
Speaker 2: just does it. It's like hollow, just fucking nothing but air.
Speaker 5: All right. I'm giving the Oliver Show for the week.
Speaker 5: So everybody's been watching as a been raising the kiddy cat.
Speaker 5: This is the kitten. His eyes are doing beautiful agy
Speaker 5: because he's got some color to him. Oh he is
Speaker 5: asleep next to me just now, but he's coming along fine.
Speaker 5: But he is why we've been slow on shipping. I apologize.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get all that done this weekend. And
Speaker 5: Penser's back home for the moment, so it's just me
Speaker 5: and the little guy taking on the world. And are
Speaker 5: you kissing me again? He's nicking and then you sneeze
Speaker 5: in my face. But he's been pretty cool and he's
Speaker 5: turning out orange and quite beautiful. What about shoreline genetics
Speaker 5: on Great Lakes? The shoreline BX, No, Great Lakes, Ignore them.
Speaker 5: They've been scammers for a long time. The people they're carrying.
Speaker 5: I shouldn't say I've been scamming for a long time.
Speaker 5: Stop playing with any of that. Go get go, get
Speaker 5: it from the source, you know. That's all I can say.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want a good shoreline experience, I
Speaker 2: mean the garbage cloud. I have not grown this one yet,
Speaker 2: but I have very high expectations, not just like hopes
Speaker 2: and dreams, but because of my experience with other fucking
Speaker 2: bonnet hybrids. Yeah, they're they're like having training wheels. The
Speaker 2: Skyline's a good one too. It's a lot better, just
Speaker 2: a lot easier to get, like premium, you know, bud
Speaker 2: out of it. Yeah, and uh yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: passes very uh very readily onto the next generation, like
Speaker 2: that profile is pretty easy to come through.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, And and people don't realize to your shortline
Speaker 5: wasn't a clone that was readily passed again like HP thirteen.
Speaker 5: Back in the day, people were not passing shoreline and
Speaker 5: now they still aren't passing shoreline because of shit like that.
Speaker 5: People are tired of fucking all the tomfoolery, you know,
Speaker 5: and the guys that are pretending to make these vx's
Speaker 5: and all this shit. They aren't even in the groups
Speaker 5: to possibly be given the cut or to be let
Speaker 5: in to sniff the cut. And it's so hard to
Speaker 5: explain that too, like to someone not in clone circles
Speaker 5: or in in groups where guys make friends for life
Speaker 5: that are growers and share things. Right, we know each other,
Speaker 5: we do our best to vet each other out. And
Speaker 5: people have made it in and then totally screwed us.
Speaker 5: You know. It's not so knew a story, but it
Speaker 5: can happen. But for the most part, those kind of
Speaker 5: clones don't just end up in some jerkwater's hands to
Speaker 5: do a BX and then be like yet done, why'd
Speaker 5: you do the BX. What was the point where you
Speaker 5: trying to lock in which trait? Yes, you know I
Speaker 5: was trying.
Speaker 2: To get shore pretty much my whole growing career. Yeah,
Speaker 2: actually here in Houston and am a bit embedded in
Speaker 2: like the scene, the underground scene or was back then.
Speaker 2: So and it's people just weren't fucking giving it up.
Speaker 2: Like I knew dudes who had grown it, and they're
Speaker 2: like no, yeah, now why the fuck would I do that?
Speaker 2: And then it turned to you don't want it, you know,
Speaker 2: and you know like and now, I mean, fuck, there's
Speaker 2: a I've seen people grow weird stuff and call it,
Speaker 2: you know, all of these like legend dairy things, these
Speaker 2: like you know, known elite clones like with a name
Speaker 2: or whatever that were restricted and stuff, and they it's
Speaker 2: so obviously not it, you know, like I'll have a
Speaker 2: super modern thing be like, yeah, this is Kim Dog
Speaker 2: the original, Like no, it's fucking not bro. It's purple
Speaker 2: and has like huge bubbly bracts and fucking right like
Speaker 2: just so like no, that's not that's not it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some people just don't ever want to be told
Speaker 5: it's not it. Or again it goes back to like
Speaker 5: when I was buying seeds and I first found out
Speaker 5: like I had spent a good you know, several several
Speaker 5: several several several grand on seeds from Amsterdam, and then
Speaker 5: finding out how they were made, where they were made,
Speaker 5: and what they were and when they absolutely weren't, And
Speaker 5: at that moment you have to make that decision like, Okay,
Speaker 5: do I pass the and just say well, I got
Speaker 5: this from Amsterdam and that's good enough and it's what
Speaker 5: was written on the pack, so it must be that.
Speaker 5: Or do you push that aside and then make your
Speaker 5: mission to find stuff that's legit and work with that.
Speaker 5: I don't think most people will choose version two, because
Speaker 5: that's just in my experience watching seed companies come and
Speaker 5: go over the last twenty years, because yeah, I've been
Speaker 5: around that long, and more often than not, you're not
Speaker 5: going to find people say oh, let me, let me
Speaker 5: correct that. That actually wasn't what I thought it was.
Speaker 11: Yeah, oh yeah, So I so he's talking specifically about
Speaker 11: that dude, which is the Shoreline Genetics guy.
Speaker 5: Oh I thought he was talking about see here. I
Speaker 5: thought he was talking about those Florida assholes.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: No, there's a company called Shoreline Genetics.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, well he's actually I dude, I bought I
Speaker 2: talked to him in like twenty sixteen. I think, yeah
Speaker 2: about it, Like I guess he used to live. He
Speaker 2: actually used to live like down the street from where
Speaker 2: I live right now. Okay, I ran his I don't
Speaker 2: know what BX your friend's specifically talking about, but I
Speaker 2: ran the shore BX three and it was not very
Speaker 2: sure it was. I still got something out of it
Speaker 2: that I liked, but I I mean, I was specifically
Speaker 2: looking for shore.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and at BF three. If you you know, if
Speaker 5: that crosses work as people think they do, you know,
Speaker 5: you'd think it would come out pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well and it was. I don't know. It
Speaker 2: was weird because it's supposed to be what it's supposed
Speaker 2: to be doesn't really make sense. I haven't found regular
Speaker 2: seeds of that, yeah yet, the seeds I received, like
Speaker 2: of the outcross, I haven't been able to see any
Speaker 2: like now were they made. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you would go through the trouble of the reversal.
Speaker 2: And then also you know, like do a male.
Speaker 5: R one are one is not a thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that should be your first bet the guy doesn't
Speaker 5: understand breeding, then I probably wouldn't. Yeah, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 5: give him the time of day because people who make
Speaker 5: seeds should at least know the baselines of breeding. They
Speaker 5: could actually go through any of our podcast audio podcasts,
Speaker 5: and I'm working on getting a lot of the videos
Speaker 5: back up. I did back up a lot of the
Speaker 5: videos better than I thought I did it. It'll take
Speaker 5: a long time to get them up on here. But
Speaker 5: you can always go to spreaker dot com. That helps
Speaker 5: us the most. If you go to spreaker dot com
Speaker 5: and you know, type in b X one or ib
Speaker 5: L and you'll see there's actually a whole episode on
Speaker 5: what does what do these mean? What defines this? And
Speaker 5: uh yeah, that's it's out there. You guys can go
Speaker 5: learn all that stuff. It's up that it's not all
Speaker 5: up on YouTube. Fuck YouTube anyways for or being bitches.
Speaker 5: So it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, they were rags. That's what I mean. Is the
Speaker 2: seed line that it was the deadhead o G. I
Speaker 2: haven't been able to find like evidence of regular seeds
Speaker 2: of that line. That's what I mean. Blackie is like
Speaker 2: kind of weird that the seeds that the BX was
Speaker 2: made was ragged when I can't find anything about the
Speaker 2: out Cross.
Speaker 5: Dead Head o G is the Outcross? Yeah, why the
Speaker 5: funk would you use dead head O G M ninety
Speaker 5: one s FV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it, you know, like a slurve.
Speaker 5: And he doesn't even know how to fucking reverse, so
Speaker 5: I'm not even sure how who how?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, that's that's what I'm like. There's also I know, fuck,
Speaker 2: I know someone. I think it might have been Chuck
Speaker 2: who ran the death Star b X from him and
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's not death Star, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: and our one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, R one is not a term.
Speaker 2: It's not a term. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's That's something I've been arguing with breeders about
Speaker 5: for a long time because the original term for R
Speaker 5: one meant that it was recombinant genetics. And yeah, no
Speaker 5: one's doing recombinant work in weed right now, like our
Speaker 5: our our level sun Simulator also did a dead Head
Speaker 5: o G if I remember, right, Maybe that's definitely possible.
Speaker 5: Sun Him did some. He also did a Strawberry Diesel
Speaker 5: that was pretty decent. Sunshim had some cool ship. I
Speaker 5: think you're right that he might have done in dead
Speaker 5: Head O G. I don't know if it was the
Speaker 5: same genetics, but I do remember that being attached.
Speaker 2: To his name were they rags.
Speaker 5: Don't recall Sunsham usually did Rags, so I would I
Speaker 5: would assume, So.
Speaker 2: I wonder if that's what he has said. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Most people weren't.
Speaker 5: Like De suns him was wasn't on any seed banks
Speaker 5: or anything like that. Sun Siam was more of like
Speaker 5: a seed boutique, freeb type guy, or sometimes breed Bay
Speaker 5: or something like that. But it was very very yeah.
Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever, whatever what. It came out like a nice,
Speaker 2: you know, weird og thing, but there was no shore
Speaker 2: to be found in those two packs and with other
Speaker 2: If you want like a shore experience, which I'm assuming
Speaker 2: you do because you're talking about it last week too
Speaker 2: in the chat after the show. Yeah, you uh, definitely
Speaker 2: pick up. I promise you you will get what you want.
Speaker 2: I don't have the cut right now, and I'm not
Speaker 2: even worried about getting it back at all because of
Speaker 2: the hybrids that I have of it. I am what
Speaker 2: I like in it, what I like the thing that
Speaker 2: makes me love shore but grows better for me. So
Speaker 2: you know, and I think atty different high in the
Speaker 2: garbage cloud, like the garbage clouds fucking rip your dick off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a beautiful fucking combination of chirps. Yeah. Someone said,
Speaker 5: for a second, I thought I saw speakeasy and I
Speaker 5: got triggered. What's funny is they just lost their twitch
Speaker 5: channel that they stole from me.
Speaker 2: So wa wah wah, bitch.
Speaker 5: That felt good. Yeah, I've had lots of problems with people, yeah,
Speaker 5: stealing that and making money off it. One down, more
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 2: Fucking apparently seeds now too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that BDSD doing that pretending to sell my
Speaker 5: shirts and my seeds. But from what I hear, they
Speaker 5: are are quitting finally, which is good because she anyways,
Speaker 5: her ex husband was cool as fuck.
Speaker 2: Though. It's just a bunch of people who jump in,
Speaker 2: like see the opportunity. They're like fucking traveling salesmen. Matter
Speaker 2: what the fuck they're selling, they're always going to be
Speaker 2: a fucking slimy piece of shit, you know, and they're
Speaker 2: just going to see that opportunity, jump in, get the
Speaker 2: money while they can ride that shit out and get
Speaker 2: the fuck out onto the next grift, you know, like
Speaker 2: it same fucking hustlers.
Speaker 5: The attitude soured me really bad too seed banks for
Speaker 5: a very long time, and then Speakeasy hit me up
Speaker 5: at the perfect time where I was so overloaded I
Speaker 5: couldn't like I couldn't. I was having trouble running the
Speaker 5: podcast that we had just started coming up with ideas
Speaker 5: getting hold of everyone, because I was only one doing that,
Speaker 5: like contacting people to come on the show, setting up
Speaker 5: the schedules, recording everything, editing everything, doing all that shit.
Speaker 5: And they offered to do the shipping for me, and
Speaker 5: I was like, fine, but you have to have a
Speaker 5: seed stock in hand, and I go, oh, yeah, we'll
Speaker 5: do that, yeah, yeah, yeah, and we'll also build you
Speaker 5: a new website so blah blah blah blah blah. You'll
Speaker 5: get a hundred percent of that and we'll only keep
Speaker 5: you know, X amount from the one uh through speakeasy.
Speaker 5: So what they did was they I gave them access
Speaker 5: stupidly to my actual websites domain name, and all they
Speaker 5: did was take down my shop and kept money coming
Speaker 5: through that the stuff that saltered their stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 5: that that was the second time at a seed bank.
Speaker 5: But attitude was one of the worst pieces of ship
Speaker 5: companies I've ever worked with.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I got a shirt from Cell shipping
Speaker 2: from them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I still have an Attitude shirt, but old one.
Speaker 5: It's like a gray one with a lighter on it
Speaker 5: and says attitude or something. But yeah, it's a shame.
Speaker 5: It's a shame. Uh, And that they and some others
Speaker 5: are the first people people run into. And uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: do your best to support those who make the seeds
Speaker 5: and not the places that carry them. That's the best
Speaker 5: I can say. And if you want the best info,
Speaker 5: if you want to know the most about the strains
Speaker 5: that you're going to be growing, no one should know
Speaker 5: more than the actual breeder. Yet make friends with the breeder,
Speaker 5: you know, Like not all of us are assholes like me,
Speaker 5: like I should. I'll respond to anyone, like as long
Speaker 5: as they're cool, I'll respond to them. I'll answer all
Speaker 5: your questions. And some of you in here know me
Speaker 5: that way, you know, like we've only talked that way,
Speaker 5: and I'm totally fine with that. Most breeders should and
Speaker 5: they should be able to answer any questions no matter
Speaker 5: how hard, even if it's uh, you know about horrible shit,
Speaker 5: horrible rumors, ask away you know, people shouldn't be scared
Speaker 5: of that shit. Oh Scott in Denver, that would be
Speaker 5: Scott reach Around. He also owns Attitude USA, but I
Speaker 5: think that's going to be gone now. Yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 5: reach you around anyway. I think we're like an hour
Speaker 5: and a half. Is there anything else you guys want
Speaker 5: us to cover? We need to cover.
Speaker 2: We do need to cover the interview that we're just
Speaker 2: setting up with. Oh yes, yes, So if if y'all
Speaker 2: have like any questions to ask, make sure to drop
Speaker 2: it in the Q and a section in the discord, yes,
Speaker 2: because I want to make sure that like we there's
Speaker 2: that we don't miss out on it, because this is
Speaker 2: going to be a good chance to actually if you
Speaker 2: have watched his other interviews, most people don't really there's
Speaker 2: a lot of questions left to be at, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: to be asked, and it's it's not, you know, necessarily
Speaker 2: the host fault. They just don't know to ask, you know.
Speaker 5: And it also is not going to be a live show.
Speaker 5: We're going to do this as an edited show, so
Speaker 5: we need the questions beforehand and we're going to be
Speaker 5: doing I believe the recording Monday or Tuesday, early this,
Speaker 5: you know, next coming week. So please try to get
Speaker 5: your questions in through the discord or some way and
Speaker 5: you can ask them tons of questions. The dudes, the
Speaker 5: dudes like us, like us for strains. He is that
Speaker 5: way with testing, and yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2: I was actually worried that like he wouldn't be you know,
Speaker 2: that he would just be so you know, but when
Speaker 2: we talked to him that one day on video chat,
Speaker 2: like he actually knows what he's talking about. He's actually
Speaker 2: fucking interesting, you know, like it's not just a business
Speaker 2: model that he's running. Like he he is bucking down
Speaker 2: to talk about what's going and like the cool shit
Speaker 2: about you know, like the scary shit all of it,
Speaker 2: you know, like doing his own like experiments and stuff,
Speaker 2: which we're definitely gonna fucking cover on the thing.
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Speaker 5: What are you going to do? So, Yeah, I'm stoked
Speaker 5: about that show. I want to have stony Oi. I
Speaker 5: own you back on for some more round tip. Uh
Speaker 5: we need former damn pack, we need more chuck. Yeah,
Speaker 5: We've got a lot more coming up and I'm gonna
Speaker 5: force them all into it all at once, like a
Speaker 5: big orgy. And yeah, shout out to Pinzer for all
Speaker 5: of her help, because honestly, like I wouldn't even be
Speaker 5: halfway through the shipping stuff right now if she hadn't
Speaker 5: been helping me take care of mister Oliver. Isn't he
Speaker 5: like the Oliver and Company? Cattle? Orange and cute? And yes,
Speaker 5: my hands are that fucked up from him? That's that's
Speaker 5: that's true, love.
Speaker 2: They're like hypodermic needles right now, you like, hardened a
Speaker 2: little bit to where they're not fucking like syringes stab
Speaker 2: in you.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, he's he got his nails cut the other
Speaker 5: day and he wasn't so happy. But we're gonna try
Speaker 5: to work on it with him.
Speaker 2: Do you have like poles and stuff? What's that? Dude?
Speaker 2: Like the poles would like rope wrapped around it.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, you got to get.
Speaker 2: Some type of fucking post thing because he's gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I want you want to control where he does it
Speaker 2: on a spot that's like made for it and not
Speaker 2: your fucking pouch and yeah your hand and shit like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, little baby's just so cute. He's a pretty
Speaker 5: sweet little guy. But he takes a lot of hours.
Speaker 5: But like I said, his eyes are clean, His eyes
Speaker 5: are clean, and he's taking some big fat ships too.
Speaker 5: It's beautiful, beautiful, big fat shits, just like his daddy.
Speaker 5: So yes, anyways, we want to thank you all for
Speaker 5: showing up and hanging out and to all of you
Speaker 5: who have given me some wonderful advice on taking care
Speaker 5: of Oliver sort of. You have reached out and offered
Speaker 5: to help, like even with the I meta sending stuff
Speaker 5: or people are reaching out to help with that, and
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I really appreciate you all and all everyone
Speaker 5: for your time and screw I love you. You show
Speaker 5: up every week, rain or shine, and yeah, this wouldn't
Speaker 5: keep going on without you and shut. So I just
Speaker 5: wanted to give you guys some love.
Speaker 2: To Oh, thank I'm just I'm just keeping the seat
Speaker 2: warm until Thousandfold comes back from.
Speaker 5: Yeah rest, Yeah, well then there'll be then there'll be
Speaker 5: more of us. I think that's just how it's gonna roll.
Speaker 5: If he ever comes back, it would just be four
Speaker 5: of us.
Speaker 2: Anyway, much better organized.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my best to have this, yeah, much
Speaker 5: better organized. I'm gonna do my best to have this
Speaker 5: up on audio for all audio platforms by tonight if
Speaker 5: it lets me. If not, it'll be early tomorrow. I
Speaker 5: don't think that there's any fights to disappe point this
Speaker 5: weekend watching Pereira get knocked out, sucked Sean O'Malley one.
Speaker 5: Hopefully my cards go up. Thank you Blackie for the donation. Brother.
Speaker 5: I could I could sell all my Shaan O'Malley Rookie
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Speaker 5: think someone else won that, I have a bunch of
Speaker 5: cards of the ship so roofie hoofy. So yeah, anyways,
Speaker 5: fuck the UFC and uh yeah, we will see you
Speaker 5: next time on readers Syndicate. I'm trying to make like
Speaker 5: hold off the time till I can find the part
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