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Speaker 1: I suppose if Charles Barkley was doing the postgame show,
Speaker 1: he'd say something like the Spurs were the big old
Speaker 1: woman and the Clippers were the churro and they got
Speaker 1: eaten up in this one. But we're too classy to
Speaker 1: make analogies like that. Clippers lose one twenty two to
Speaker 1: eighty six in San Antonio to the Spurs, their worst
Speaker 1: loss of the season. Welcome into Clippers Talk and casuals
Speaker 1: panicking everywhere. Appreciate you guys, but panicking overall loss like
Speaker 1: this is not it. The Clippers are nineteen and fourteen,
Speaker 1: They're doing just fine without Kawhi. Yes, their issues, every
Speaker 1: team flaws, Yes they can do better. Yes, this was disappointing, frustrating,
Speaker 1: and a little bit demoralizing. It was also very predictable
Speaker 1: from those who are paying attention to at follow out
Speaker 1: of May because yesterday I made this tweet. I knew
Speaker 1: that almost lost to the Pelicans, where the Clippers had
Speaker 1: to battle back down fourteen, could come back to haunt them.
Speaker 1: The Pelicans are the worst team in the league. The
Speaker 1: Clippers probably shouldn't have been down fourteen in that game,
Speaker 1: and at one point I tweeted out, regardless of the outcome,
Speaker 1: is what I was saying. Regardless, the Clippers are going
Speaker 1: to be gassed for tomorrow's game. Narrator says they were.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when you don't step on a
Speaker 1: team's throat that is a lesser team than you. Now,
Speaker 1: the Pelicans were hot yesterday from three. CJ. McCollum is
Speaker 1: a good player. They have talent. Did I think the
Speaker 1: Clippers play great? No, Pelicans were super hot. They hit
Speaker 1: seven threes in the first quarter. But this is why
Speaker 1: I always say a win is a win. Forget that
Speaker 1: sports cliche. And but I forget that. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. Uh, it's never a win
Speaker 1: is a win. How you win matters, how you lose matters.
Speaker 1: You can develop bad habits and wins and good habits
Speaker 1: that lead to wins later in losses and tonight in
Speaker 1: this one, I think there were some tired legs out.
Speaker 1: There were there some bad effort plays too. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: much you put on well, they were just out of gas,
Speaker 1: and how much you say that really was just that
Speaker 1: not caring or trying. I'll give this team the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt because there have been very few low
Speaker 1: effort performances this season. There have been very few performances
Speaker 1: like this where the Clippers just get waxed, just get annihilated.
Speaker 1: I can think of a couple in Boston where they
Speaker 1: lost one twenty six to ninety four, lost that game
Speaker 1: by thirty two, and the home game against Minnesota where
Speaker 1: they lost one oh eight to eighty, lost that game
Speaker 1: by twenty eight. This was their worst loss. It was
Speaker 1: worse than those two games. Maybe it contends with the
Speaker 1: Minnesota one. The Boston won whatever, how many threes did
Speaker 1: they hitch twenty five? They're the defending champs. They get hot,
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do. Clippers played hard, now, I
Speaker 1: don't think they played that bad. Boston is that good?
Speaker 1: Minnesota they played bad in that game at home. That
Speaker 1: was also the second night of a back to back guys.
Speaker 1: They just beatn Portland the day before. If you look
Speaker 1: at even good teams records, teams that go on to
Speaker 1: win fifty five sixty plus games, if you look at
Speaker 1: them on the second night of a back to back,
Speaker 1: they're often like five hundred. Back to backs are difficult.
Speaker 1: Scheduled losses are a real thing. Is losing by thirty
Speaker 1: six is a back to back? Enough of an explanation
Speaker 1: for how bad the Clippers were in this game. No,
Speaker 1: they were just extremely out of sink and offensively. I
Speaker 1: think it hurt their defense because when you have bad
Speaker 1: turnovers like that, when you have those bad live turnovers
Speaker 1: like the Clippers did, well, their fourteen turnovers turned into
Speaker 1: twenty one points for the San Antonio Spurs. That's a
Speaker 1: big number. Typically, if you're getting one point per turnover,
Speaker 1: that's solid. They got twenty one off the Clippers fourteen turnovers,
Speaker 1: a lot of LiveBall turnovers. And you look at some
Speaker 1: of the other numbers in this game, like fast break points.
Speaker 1: The Spurs had thirty two to the Clippers twelve. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. They had sixty two points in
Speaker 1: the paint to the Clippers thirty eight. That's how you
Speaker 1: get crushed. The Clippers also went eleven of forty one
Speaker 1: from three. San Antonio went nine of forty percentage wise,
Speaker 1: they were actually worse from the outside, but they were
Speaker 1: much better from two. The Clippers got out worked, and
Speaker 1: Wemby can out talent you at times. He the Clippers
Speaker 1: team in the first quarter. The Clippers as a team
Speaker 1: scored seventeen points in the first quarter. James Harden had
Speaker 1: thirteen of those points, Wemby had seventeen by himself, and
Speaker 1: the Clippers were down thirty one to seventeen heading into
Speaker 1: the second down fourteen already, just like they were down
Speaker 1: fourteen against the Pels yesterday. Uphill battle, Oh grand theft
Speaker 1: auto meme, Here we go again. In the second quarter,
Speaker 1: the Spurs got up by as many as twenty five.
Speaker 1: The only bright spot was Norman Pall had twelve points
Speaker 1: in the second that was it, and the third quarter
Speaker 1: it was more the same. Two buckets right away from Wemby.
Speaker 1: It got out of hand. The Spurs led by as
Speaker 1: many as twenty nine and the third led by as
Speaker 1: many as forty one. In the game, they go on
Speaker 1: to win big one, twenty two to eighty six. Clippers
Speaker 1: shopped in nineteen fourteen on the season. If you want
Speaker 1: to panic about this team, I mean, fan how you
Speaker 1: want a fan? I'm just telling you this isn't indicative
Speaker 1: of how this Clippers team has played throughout the majority
Speaker 1: of the season or going to define their season. People
Speaker 1: freak out over losses like this, a lopside loss. A
Speaker 1: lot of this can be explained by the second half
Speaker 1: of a back to back. This stuff happens, it does,
Speaker 1: it does. I saw a Clippers team lose by fifty
Speaker 1: one in the twenty twenty one season that went on
Speaker 1: to go to the Western Conference Finals. They lost a
Speaker 1: game earlier in the year by fifty one to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks. Did it mean anything. No, they had their
Speaker 1: best year in franchise history. Now, if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about issues going on with this Clippers team aside
Speaker 1: from this loss, that are more big picture issues, I'm
Speaker 1: here for that. I just people are saying, oh, they're
Speaker 1: a bad three point shooting team, they're a bad bench.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, they don't have Kawhi, they don't have
Speaker 1: Terrence Man. You get those back, those guys back. Kawhi
Speaker 1: is in the starting lineup. Man's coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: That bumps Chris done off the bench with Batom a
Speaker 1: mere KPJ. Bamba. That's not bad now Bamba has struggled.
Speaker 1: It was bad again tonight. Gotta be frank about that.
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are gonna play small a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the end of the world having
Speaker 1: a below average backup big. You know how many teams
Speaker 1: have a below average backup big, the majority of them.
Speaker 1: There are a handful of teams in this league that
Speaker 1: are really strong at the backup five spot, a handful.
Speaker 1: Bamba's been disappointing. The lack of motor is what gets
Speaker 1: to me. He's got the size, he's got skill. Even
Speaker 1: though he's missing three pointers and having like his worst
Speaker 1: season from three, right now, you would assume it's going
Speaker 1: to turn around. I think his first three shots were
Speaker 1: all threes and he missed all three. Then he did
Speaker 1: get a nice bucket on Wemby in the post. We
Speaker 1: should do that a little bit more. I just want
Speaker 1: to see more activity from him. I want to see
Speaker 1: more fight from him. I eats and Zubots had a
Speaker 1: bad game. Zoo haters are trying to dunk on Zoo tonight,
Speaker 1: like he didn't dunk on Wemby the last game in
Speaker 1: their twenty six point comeback, Wenby out played him. They
Speaker 1: also I understand Zoo's frustration on the defensive end on
Speaker 1: some of the rotations, like he had had it with
Speaker 1: some of his teammates. There were some really bad plays
Speaker 1: where guys were or just not giving the effort defensively.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was tired legs. I don't know. We're looking
Speaker 1: for Coach Lou postgame audio coming up here. I'm interested
Speaker 1: to hear from from him after a game like this.
Speaker 1: Is it a burden the tape game? Is it like
Speaker 1: hot ass? Did you use? You drop it wherever Frodo
Speaker 1: put the ring Mount Doom or something?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a sar on you put it there.
Speaker 1: That's where you put the game film? Because how much
Speaker 1: can you learn from a game like this? The thing,
Speaker 1: the thing that I hate about games like this is
Speaker 1: not so much that the Clippers just got annihilated. I
Speaker 1: do hate that, but there's so little to take away
Speaker 1: from it. If you want to make long reaching conclusions
Speaker 1: out of games like this, I think that's in poor judgment.
Speaker 1: I think you are reaching. The reason Coach Lou doesn't
Speaker 1: is because we have thirty three games now, a thirty
Speaker 1: three game sample size, we're forty percent of the way
Speaker 1: through the season, guys, believe it or not. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna look at how this team plays the majority of
Speaker 1: the time, ninety five percent of the time, not the
Speaker 1: couple times where they've had games like this. But everybody
Speaker 1: starts going to trade talk. What are we doing? Are
Speaker 1: we gonna be a contender or not? It'say, guys, how
Speaker 1: many times I just say this, Until you see how
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard looks, you shouldn't be making any big moves
Speaker 1: because if Kawhi can't stay healthy, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: you go out and get Jimmy Butler or Zach Levine
Speaker 1: or anybody you're pining over. If Kawhi is not there,
Speaker 1: you're not a contender. So see how Kawhi looks if
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy, and then reevaluate things and then
Speaker 1: reassess the roster. Now, if you can go out and
Speaker 1: fleece somebody like they did Portland to get Norm Powell, cool,
Speaker 1: do it regardless, because that's a good move independent of
Speaker 1: Kawhi's health. If you can get Calling Sexton and not
Speaker 1: give up much right, because he's a young player and
Speaker 1: you can have him for years to come. It's not
Speaker 1: all hinging on whether or not Kawhi Leonard is healthy.
Speaker 1: We hope he can be, but I really think you
Speaker 1: gotta be judicious about this. You gotta be careful. You
Speaker 1: gotta pick your spots because you don't want to go
Speaker 1: out there and go all in or try to upgrade
Speaker 1: and make a big swing when Kawhi's health is still
Speaker 1: up in the air and uncertain and it is hopefully
Speaker 1: he's back on Saturday. That's the target date that La
Speaker 1: Murray gave. He was all to me pregame, talk to
Speaker 1: him about Kevin Porter Junior. We'll get to that audio
Speaker 1: later in the show. We'll take a quick time out,
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Indeed, leave this loss in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I'm just about done talking about what happened tonight in
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Speaker 1: The Clippers tipped off in San Antonio less than twenty
Speaker 1: four hours after their last game tipped off yesterday in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and it showed. They lost one twenty two
Speaker 1: to eighty six to the Spurs. Welcome back in It
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Speaker 1: We're here for another what thirty eight minutes here to
Speaker 1: the bottom of next hour. Happy New Year, and happy
Speaker 1: move on from this game and never talk about it
Speaker 1: again after tonight, because that's probably what's gonna happen. Still
Speaker 1: looking for postgame audio from coach lou We'll hear from
Speaker 1: Lot Murray, but first Mike in Los Angeles. Mike, what's
Speaker 1: up here on Clippers stock with that of Austin him Mike, Hey.
Speaker 5: Adam, So you know, I used to think that this
Speaker 5: team's biggest weakness was really power forward and wing. Now
Speaker 5: I've changed. I think the biggest weakness is really just
Speaker 5: another ball handler.
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, Hey, Mike, who's been saying
Speaker 1: that for three weeks? Here, who's been saying that for
Speaker 1: three weeks?
Speaker 5: I know, I know I'm preaching another choir, But I
Speaker 5: have come around, is what I'm giving.
Speaker 1: You think that's fair?
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just the turnovers and also just you know,
Speaker 5: after a bad lossess to put things in perspective. I
Speaker 5: remember the season where the Clippers, who was with Pooh
Speaker 5: Richardson and Lloyd Vought, almost broke the record for most
Speaker 5: losses consecutive losses to start the season, and they won
Speaker 5: that last game to avoid the record on a buzzer beater,
Speaker 5: and it was like they won the championship. So you know,
Speaker 5: we've come a long way from that.
Speaker 1: Was that the year they won twelve or fourteen games?
Speaker 1: What did they win?
Speaker 5: Something like that? Yeah, I don't remember exactly, but yeah,
Speaker 5: something like twelve.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Ralph Laller on the line and revisit
Speaker 1: those those days so people can be a little bit
Speaker 1: more thankful right now. Maybe huh, But.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean this team is fun. You know tonight, Yeah,
Speaker 5: second night of a back to back. You know, as
Speaker 5: you've said, you know, if you minutes to go less
Speaker 5: than twenty four hours after sipoff, which is a whole
Speaker 5: other thing, you know, is what it is. I mean,
Speaker 5: all in all, the season has been a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: You know, nineteen and fourteen is you know great, you know,
Speaker 5: after thirty three games with no Kauai and you know
Speaker 5: all the other injuries we've had, and you know, hoping
Speaker 5: for good things in the new year and a happy
Speaker 5: new year to you.
Speaker 1: A happy new year, Mike. I'll talk to you next year.
Speaker 1: My friend appreciates you as always. It's like we're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of we need this type of player, we
Speaker 1: need a ball handler, we need a center, we need
Speaker 1: three point shooters. I'm not seeing a lot of names
Speaker 1: here in the chat. It's weird how that works. Nobody's
Speaker 1: actually giving any reasonable trade. Somebody's like, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think about getting Andre Drummonds? Well, why would Philly
Speaker 1: give him up? Philly's not punting on the season. Why
Speaker 1: is Philly giving up big thirst Andre Drummond, who I
Speaker 1: think is a little bit overrated. I mean, i'd take him.
Speaker 1: He will be an upgrade. But again, I can never
Speaker 1: seem to find any realistic trades. When you guys want
Speaker 1: to do this stuff, or any details on what they
Speaker 1: should do that are at all based in reality. Like,
Speaker 1: I have fun with the trade talk too. I've been
Speaker 1: talking about Colin Sexton. I think he is attainable. Oh
Speaker 1: and Dan West, our producer, said, you're right here, man,
Speaker 1: just grab the mic and jump in or just just
Speaker 1: just go over to it and be like, hey, Adam,
Speaker 1: I got something.
Speaker 3: I got them.
Speaker 5: So what was it?
Speaker 1: What was the record of that Clippers team that was talking.
Speaker 6: About that'll be twelve and seventy back in nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty seven. Woo oh, I mean as bad as tonight,
Speaker 6: was a lot to be grateful for there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those were some dark days. Some people are in
Speaker 1: here saying Andre Drummond is not good. Some are saying
Speaker 1: Sexton and that's it. A ball handler and a solid shooter.
Speaker 1: He is a really efficient player out there. He's underrated.
Speaker 1: Somebody want Jordan Clarkson. Sexton's better than Jordan Clarkson. He
Speaker 1: gives better effort on defense, he's a better playmaker, and
Speaker 1: he's been a better shooter. What exactly is Jordan Clarkson
Speaker 1: doing better than Colin Sexton? Can anybody tell me that? Now?
Speaker 1: If you're saying, well, Clarkson could be cheaper than Sexton. Okay,
Speaker 1: but from a skill standpoint, calling sections better in every way.
Speaker 1: I don't know what people are talking about. Maybe because
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson typically has big games against the Clippers, so
Speaker 1: that skewed your perspective. Well, we have a moment. Let's
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they could cut PJ.
Speaker 7: Still.
Speaker 1: I'm not as familiar with the new CBA, but I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anything against that. But he has an
Speaker 1: eleven million dollar expiring contract. I think there's a decent
Speaker 1: chance they still find a deal like that can fill
Speaker 1: a salary in a trade package. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: Clarkson's better the eye test great. He's not better empirically,
Speaker 1: he's not. Factually he's not like, none of his numbers
Speaker 1: are better, none of his shooting numbers are better. But
Speaker 1: from an eye test, he is a really bad defender.
Speaker 1: He doesn't give effort on that end, like anybody who
Speaker 1: thinks Clarkson is better than Sexton today, I your eyes
Speaker 1: and to get checked my man him Athy, you're better
Speaker 1: in this. Uh, let's see. We got some more phone
Speaker 1: calls coming up. Eight six six ninety eight seven two
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear some audio. This was pregame
Speaker 1: with myself and law Murray of the Athletic because this
Speaker 1: ties into the conversation a little bit about another backup
Speaker 1: ball handler, and I think the question is in there
Speaker 1: so you guys will get the full context here. This
Speaker 1: was pre game with La Murray of the Athletic. Have
Speaker 1: you seen incremental progress with him so far this season?
Speaker 1: It feels like some of the same issues remain, which
Speaker 1: is not making always the smart bet basketball play out there.
Speaker 1: Is he going to be the guy who's out of
Speaker 1: the rotation when Kawhi Leonart comes back.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's I would expect Kevin to be the
Speaker 7: de tense guy. I mean, because it's not just Kawhi
Speaker 7: we're talking about, it's Terrence Man as well. Like what
Speaker 7: happens with Terrence coming back is more interesting to me
Speaker 7: because with all of Kevin Porter Junior's shortcomings Soronlu always
Speaker 7: wants to have a primary ball handler kind of player,
Speaker 7: a guy who can create for others. And if he
Speaker 7: believes that he can do that with a bench of
Speaker 7: say Chris Dunn, Terrence Man, the miror Coffee Nikovertoom and Obama,
Speaker 7: than okay, I'm not sure you're going to see that
Speaker 7: five man lineup out there. And you also have to
Speaker 7: consider guy like Kawhi whenever he gets back, is probably
Speaker 7: not playing every single game when he gets back, and
Speaker 7: you got to keep guys engaged somehow. So it's going
Speaker 7: to be very tricky to see what happens. But just
Speaker 7: the center and on Kevin, there are things that he
Speaker 7: does well. You can always tell when he's out rhythm.
Speaker 7: He didn't play Friday night and it showed he had
Speaker 7: some misses around the rim to go with, you know,
Speaker 7: the difficult shot selection and shot making at times. And
Speaker 7: at the same time, he's going to help them because
Speaker 7: he's a body out there who they don't have to
Speaker 7: worry about. Defensively, he'll make some plays and he'll play hard,
Speaker 7: and so it's good on a long process. I think
Speaker 7: it's a lot easier to say he'll be out the
Speaker 7: rotation when the team is fully healthy. But it's not
Speaker 7: just Kawhi the way you know, and it's Terrence Man
Speaker 7: as well. And we got to just see trust how
Speaker 7: much TVU trust someone like Chris Dunn, who Chris is
Speaker 7: dying a lot of all handling himself. And I think Chris,
Speaker 7: other than he had one bad pass that led to
Speaker 7: a trade Murphy three, I believe I was Chris's live
Speaker 7: ball turnover. But I think Chris Dunn is the guy
Speaker 7: who needs to beat a backup point guard if they're
Speaker 7: gonna start Kawhi and they're gonna keep playing Terrence.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I've been saying. When Kawhi comes back,
Speaker 1: half Terrence Man and Chris Dunn share the ball handling
Speaker 1: duties with the backup unit. Those guys are more sound
Speaker 1: with the basketball. But it's not perfect. So you could
Speaker 1: look to go outside of this team internally and try
Speaker 1: to find somebody. Colin Sexton has been the name for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone can think Clarkson is a
Speaker 1: better offensive player than Colin Sexton. Like him at he's
Speaker 1: in here is saying, well, I didn't say defensively, I
Speaker 1: said offensively, he's not better offensively than Colin Sexton. Here
Speaker 1: is what Jordan Clarkson is doing this season, and look,
Speaker 1: could he help the Clippers. Maybe you'd have to surround
Speaker 1: with a bunch of defenders, like he is really bad
Speaker 1: on that end. Colin Sexton is just undersize but gives effort.
Speaker 1: Clarkson doesn't give great effort defensively. He's getting sixteen points
Speaker 1: per game while shooting forty one percent from the field
Speaker 1: Clarkson and thirty four percent from three. Sexton is getting
Speaker 1: seventeen points per game while shooting forty eight percent from
Speaker 1: the field, seven percent better there and uh, forty two
Speaker 1: percent from three, like eight percent better from three. There
Speaker 1: is no argument that Jordan Clarkson is better on offense
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, soon to be twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and then Colin Sexton, and we already know he's worse defensively.
Speaker 1: So again it's a it's a bad argument. There a
Speaker 1: guy Himothy. You want to die in that hill like
Speaker 1: Rock has with KPJ. Go for it, but it's nonsensical.
Speaker 1: It's completely nonsensical. Again, Calin Sexton is shooting seven percent
Speaker 1: better from the field and eight percent better from three
Speaker 1: and scoring an extra point per game. Here's all you
Speaker 1: need to know. Clarkson takes more shots and still scores
Speaker 1: less per game than Colin Sexton. Do you know why?
Speaker 1: Because efficiency matters? And it turns out Callin Sexton is
Speaker 1: a career forty seven percent field goal shooter and thirty
Speaker 1: nine percent three point shooter. Jordan Clarkson is a career
Speaker 1: thirty four percent three point shooter and forty four percent
Speaker 1: from the floor for his career. The stats are lining
Speaker 1: up with where he is for his career, both for
Speaker 1: both these guys.
Speaker 3: Like just just.
Speaker 1: If you want to make the argument, well, it would
Speaker 1: take less to get Jordan Clarkson fine, because he is
Speaker 1: a lesser player than Colin Sexton, not just on defense,
Speaker 1: on offense. I don't know what you've been watching. Look
Speaker 1: the Mason Plumbley. I here's the difference. When I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: for a guy and it doesn't work out. I admit it.
Speaker 1: I said the second half of last season Mason Plumbley
Speaker 1: when he came back, was not good and Daniel Tie
Speaker 1: was a better player. Y'all can't even admit when you're wrong,
Speaker 1: Like I, oh, now Himothy is moving the goalposts. Clarkson
Speaker 1: is more easier to get. It's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you said he's the better offensive player than Sexton, So
Speaker 1: now you want to move along and be like, well
Speaker 1: he's easier to get, Okay, Like we don't have to
Speaker 1: do this, we don't have to focus on this anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm open to realistic trades. I would love some here
Speaker 1: is not getting many.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Clippers are desperate for a
Speaker 1: big move because they don't know how Kawhi Leonard looks.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing right now. They're
Speaker 1: nineteen and fourteen without him. Hopefully he's back on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Let's see how the pieces fit once Kawhi Leonard is
Speaker 1: back in the fold. How do guys and rotations look
Speaker 1: once Kawhi is back, because that is quite the upheaval.
Speaker 1: Him back in the starting lineup and Terrence Man back
Speaker 1: means Chris Dunn and Terrence Man are both coming off
Speaker 1: the bench. That makes you a much better bench. And
Speaker 1: as I've been telling the chat people in here are like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't play all those guys. There's still not enough scores. Guys.
Speaker 1: They're going to have four players that they could stag
Speaker 1: or two width of the starting unit that all can
Speaker 1: score the basketball win whole. They will have James Harden,
Speaker 1: Norman Powell, Kawhi and Viata Zubas. If you play it right,
Speaker 1: you can have two of those guys on the floor
Speaker 1: at all times. So I'm not that concerned. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna run these all bench lineups. So when you're like, well,
Speaker 1: where are the scorer is coming off the bench, that's
Speaker 1: not what they're going to do. We'll take a quick
Speaker 1: time out. We'll come back back to your phone calls.
Speaker 1: Still looking for post. Gave audio from coach lou Clippers
Speaker 1: lose badly in San Antonio, which is why we're talking
Speaker 1: about anything but that one twenty two to eighty six
Speaker 1: with the finals score. I'm out a mouslin and this
Speaker 1: is Clippers dockey. Already have five seventy LA sports.
Speaker 4: I love this team. I never miss a game.
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Speaker 1: Clippers lose one twenty two to eighty six in San
Speaker 1: Antonio to the Spurs. Final game was twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Welcome back in I'm out of Moslin
Speaker 1: to this is Clippers talk. We're trying to find distractions
Speaker 1: to not think about the game and their worst loss
Speaker 1: of the season. Their next game is coming up in
Speaker 1: Oka see January tewond That is on Thursday, and then
Speaker 1: hopefully on the fourth back and into a dome on Saturday,
Speaker 1: when they're taking on the Atlanta Hawks. They will have
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard back. Somebody asked the question, who's guarding Tray Young?
Speaker 1: Hopefully not Kawhi in his first game back. No, it'll
Speaker 1: be Dj Done. The reason you leave Derek Jones Junior
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup guys and bring Done off the
Speaker 1: benches because DJ can guard up more and he can
Speaker 1: still guard Ones and twos. He can guard Trey Young.
Speaker 1: It's not a problem. He's really good against smaller guys.
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Jr. Is the more versatile defender. Chris Dunn
Speaker 1: might be more of the elite perimeter specialist. But with
Speaker 1: Chris Dunn, with Derek Jones Jr. Excuse me, you have
Speaker 1: more options of who to put him on, Unlike Chris Dunn.
Speaker 1: Not that he's terrible about guarding up, just Derek Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: Is better at it. He's taller, he's lank here, so
Speaker 1: Clippers lose by thirty six. But I'm not here for that,
Speaker 1: Harold and North Hollywood, Harold, you're on Clippers sat without Amazon.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 2: Harold?
Speaker 8: What heavy year? Adam good talking to you? My year
Speaker 8: in call. Look, I don't know if you remember. You
Speaker 8: probably did one of the worst traits they ever made.
Speaker 8: Every time I see Shade Gills Gil Alexander play, wouldn't
Speaker 8: he look great.
Speaker 1: At Harold, Harold, Let's let's not play Monday morning quarterback
Speaker 1: or Tuesday because every GM in the history of baut
Speaker 1: ketball would have made that same trade. It's easy to
Speaker 1: say now looking back, Oh no, that wasn't the right move.
Speaker 1: At the time, Kahijas won finals MVP. You're doing whatever
Speaker 1: it takes to get him, and so to get him
Speaker 1: they need to get Paul George. It didn't work out.
Speaker 8: We move on. Well, there's exactly that was a mistake.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't in real time, Harold, Harold. The point
Speaker 1: is it wasn't in real time. Nobody said it was
Speaker 1: a mistake that day. Every GM in the history of
Speaker 1: basketball would have done it, including the late Great Jerry
Speaker 1: West who signed off on it. So if Jerry West
Speaker 1: was down with it, how can you blame any How
Speaker 1: can you blame him for doing it?
Speaker 8: Hey, I'm not you know what, Let's not blame anybody
Speaker 8: for the trade. But every time I see him play.
Speaker 1: Harold, this guy, you're not helping. My God, none of
Speaker 1: this helps, None of this helps anything. I hope this
Speaker 1: is the last the time I hear about this conversation
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, because all it does is yes,
Speaker 1: stick the nightway.
Speaker 8: I just I just want to let the Clipper fans
Speaker 8: remember what I did, remembered, and I tell you the
Speaker 8: guy who's going to be the MVP of the league
Speaker 8: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I predicted that before the season started. Thanks Harold,
Speaker 1: thanks for contributing tonight.
Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: All Right, I love you. Happy New Year. That was
Speaker 1: not productive. I don't need more salt in the wound.
Speaker 1: We get it.
Speaker 4: We all get it.
Speaker 1: We all understand.
Speaker 2: God.
Speaker 1: I would love more than anything for the Clippers to draw. Okay,
Speaker 1: see with Kawhi Leonard in a seven game series, Jose
Speaker 1: and Southgate, you're on Clippers. Talk cleanse the palate please.
Speaker 9: Adam and the words of Tyron Luli's go ahead and
Speaker 9: plush this morning and move on to the next one.
Speaker 5: Happy New Year's at him.
Speaker 8: We just need two guys.
Speaker 4: Two guys at him.
Speaker 5: The names are Kwi Leonard and Terrence Man. Good thing
Speaker 5: is we already have them. You can either move Chris
Speaker 5: Dinner or Derrek Jones doing to the bench.
Speaker 8: But that's Tyan news decision. Here we go out of
Speaker 8: the Cliffstone Clippers.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jose and South Kate. I appreciate it. Speaking
Speaker 1: of ty Lou, he handed me the baton there. It's
Speaker 1: a good segue. Let's hear from coach Lou after the
Speaker 1: Clippers lose big in San Antonio.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean his impact from day one, you know,
Speaker 9: when we first acquired him from Charlotte, just the impact
Speaker 9: he had in the locker room, just being a great guy,
Speaker 9: being a connector a guy that you know, he's on
Speaker 9: the floor to just make winning plays, like he's not
Speaker 9: worried about shots, he's not worried about who missed him.
Speaker 9: On the offensive end. He's a guy that can guard
Speaker 9: one through five or Swiss army knife defensively. And he's
Speaker 9: a great teammate, you know, and so everybody loves, you know,
Speaker 9: playing with Nico. He's always about team first. And when
Speaker 9: we acquired him, like I said, he really changed our change,
Speaker 9: our team, changed our season and what we were looking
Speaker 9: to do. And so we had a chance to get
Speaker 9: him back this summer. Like that was that was the
Speaker 9: number one thing on our list to try to get
Speaker 9: Nico back, and I'm glad he was able to come back.
Speaker 1: See, they don't want to talk about the game either,
Speaker 1: talk about Nico.
Speaker 4: In these games.
Speaker 3: How do you keep like the team's very good and
Speaker 3: themativity up when you are holy the game lead?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough when you get a
Speaker 9: beat like that. I mean, you know, I thought that
Speaker 9: San Antonio did a good job just attacking us and
Speaker 9: and every day beat us in every category, I mean, transition, defense, offensive, rebounds.
Speaker 9: They guarded us well, they were physical, and so they
Speaker 9: just took us out of game. Offensive. I thought, you know,
Speaker 9: with their defensive presence and then offensive, we couldn't stop them.
Speaker 9: We couldn't get back in transition. And you know, we
Speaker 9: have to be better, you know, can't give into the
Speaker 9: fatigue of a back to back or whatever. Like mentally,
Speaker 9: we got to be tougher and we gotta be better
Speaker 9: than what we show tonight.
Speaker 3: And so what is the goody to continue on?
Speaker 9: What's what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: The goal to continue? He can play?
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can play as long as he wants for me. Yeah,
Speaker 9: five more years if he wants to.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 6: It's still surprised by James harden productivity and like he's
Speaker 6: already needs to read the game.
Speaker 7: That good.
Speaker 9: No, I mean the Rokie puts in every single day
Speaker 9: the hard work of being a great player. And you
Speaker 9: can see, you know, when you have guys that are
Speaker 9: put in the work every single day like James Harden has,
Speaker 9: like Lebron James has, these older players are still productive.
Speaker 9: You know, they know how to play the game, they
Speaker 9: understand it and they know how to make guys better.
Speaker 9: And so he's been doing it for his whole career
Speaker 9: and like I said, nothing has changed.
Speaker 4: Thanks cool.
Speaker 1: There was coach post game after the Clippers lost in
Speaker 1: San Antonio one twenty two to eighty six. I really
Speaker 1: like what you said about we can't give into the fatigue.
Speaker 1: We have to be mentally tougher. I really like that
Speaker 1: approach because I think that's what we saw at times
Speaker 1: when people speak to well, maybe there's some low effort
Speaker 1: out there. They gave in to the fatigue. They gave
Speaker 1: in to the narrative that, Okay, we're on a back
Speaker 1: to back, we had a tough one last night, had
Speaker 1: to come back down fourteen, and now we're down fourteen
Speaker 1: in the first quarter to Wemby and the Spurs, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough, and maybe it broke them a
Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe it broke their spirit a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go that far and say it's
Speaker 1: definitive or conclusive or anything like that, but coach LUs
Speaker 1: saying you can't give into the fatigue, that was a
Speaker 1: meaningful quote to me. That's what you have to learn
Speaker 1: from a game like this. So maybe while you can
Speaker 1: burn the tape, there are still some principles and a
Speaker 1: philosophy you can follow. Coming out of this ball game
Speaker 1: where the Clippers lose by thirty six and San Antonio's
Speaker 1: to the Spurs, We'll take a time out, we'll come back,
Speaker 1: we'll close things out here. In twenty twenty four, as
Speaker 1: the Clippers dropped to nineteen fourteen nineteen fourteen, though thirty
Speaker 1: three games in without Kawhi Leonard, are you kidding me.
Speaker 1: I said five hundred would be incredible. Just being at
Speaker 1: five hundred treading water without Kawhi would be a win.
Speaker 1: They're five games over five hundred. They got OKC OKC
Speaker 1: on Thursday, January second. More on that coming up right
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Speaker 1: Clippers fall in San Antonio one's forty two to eighty
Speaker 1: six and it wasn't even that close. I gotta be honest.
Speaker 1: But that's okay because, as Mark Jag points out at
Speaker 1: Clippers Talk on the YouTube side, appreciate you guys if
Speaker 1: you're listening there or on a five seventy LA Sports
Speaker 1: here in your postgame show. If they beat OKAC, Mark says,
Speaker 1: somehow everyone would forget about this one. You know, a
Speaker 1: road trip sometimes is just like a cumulative score. It's
Speaker 1: not so much about the individual games. It's just like,
Speaker 1: did you go was it a really tough six game
Speaker 1: road trip and you were able to go three and
Speaker 1: three or four and two? In this case, three game Roady.
Speaker 1: Can you go two and one and if you beat OKAC,
Speaker 1: the best team they'll face on the road trip, that's huge.
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably their best victory of the
Speaker 1: season if they win Thursday in Oka see right before
Speaker 1: hopefully getting KWHI leonarn back. I mean, they just had
Speaker 1: their best victory in Memphis, but Okay see, they lost
Speaker 1: big there earlier in the season. It's not gonna be easy.
Speaker 1: They're the best team in the Western Conference. They have
Speaker 1: Hartenstein back, they still don't have Chet, but early in
Speaker 1: the season they lost. They've already played them twice. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: they lost the game I was thinking of in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: You know, they gave up one hundred and thirty four
Speaker 1: points in that game, but they were in that game.
Speaker 1: They lost one thirty four to one twenty eight. They
Speaker 1: had chances. So they've lost them twice so far, once
Speaker 1: at the end to a Dome one five to ninety two,
Speaker 1: and then a week and a half later in Okay
Speaker 1: See one thirty four to one twenty eight. I remember
Speaker 1: that was a game where the Clippers were clicking offensively,
Speaker 1: they played really well, but Hartenstein still wasn't back yet.
Speaker 1: Norm Palette Prey one in that one. Here's what was
Speaker 1: Derek Jones Junior had twenty huge game. Harden actually didn't
Speaker 1: play well. James only had seventeen on five to fifteen shooting.
Speaker 1: And that's partially because the low Dort effect and the
Speaker 1: guys that they can throw at you. Aaron Wiggins, I
Speaker 1: say it, Joe, Yeah, it's it's tough out there. Alex
Speaker 1: Crusoe is coming off the bench for them. Pan the
Speaker 1: Lakers fumble that one. Uh, the Clippers have to put
Speaker 1: forth a much better showing. Like I always say, a
Speaker 1: win is not a win, a loss is not a loss.
Speaker 1: It matters how you play out there. I want to
Speaker 1: see them compete regardless of a winner or loss. I
Speaker 1: want to see them compete. Now, won't see it be
Speaker 1: a win, but I want to see them execute and
Speaker 1: not be so lasadaisical with some of these turn So
Speaker 1: somebody brought up in here that guy Spencer said, I
Speaker 1: hope we improve the IQ of passing regardless of who
Speaker 1: has the ball others have been talking about and that
Speaker 1: guy Spencer said this too. How James Harden has had
Speaker 1: a turnover issue this season. And I talked about that
Speaker 1: with Law earlier I feel like there's been a little
Speaker 1: bit of an uptick since he's had all that time off.
Speaker 1: He's back to turn the ball over more frequently, just
Speaker 1: like he was early in the season, and then he
Speaker 1: started to settle down with it. But after he had
Speaker 1: those eight days off and missed that one game against Houston,
Speaker 1: it's been worse since then. That guy Spencer says Harden
Speaker 1: is fine for two and a half quarters handling the ball,
Speaker 1: then he's exhausted. I get he wants to create, but
Speaker 1: he's got to give up the ball to the posts.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of times Zoo is open. I mean
Speaker 1: they have been doubling Zoo a lot more. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing with James Harden in fourth quarters. This is an
Speaker 1: alarming number. And I haven't wanted to talk about this.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see if the numbers would level out
Speaker 1: the further we got into the season. But he's played
Speaker 1: thirty two games now and speaking of that number, thirty
Speaker 1: two so in the fourth quarter, Harden has thirty two
Speaker 1: assists this season to twenty eight turnovers. It's almost a
Speaker 1: one to one ratio in fourth quarters. Two to one
Speaker 1: isn't good enough for someone like him. Three to one
Speaker 1: would be what you want. It is almost one to one,
Speaker 1: thirty two assists to twenty eight turnovers in the fourth.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's because, oh, he just is
Speaker 1: being so careless out there. I think it a lot
Speaker 1: of it is fatigue. It's the usage rating. It's him
Speaker 1: having the same usage rating as guys that are doing
Speaker 1: what he did at twenty five. You know Sga, Luka Dancic.
Speaker 1: He's thirty five now and he's trying to do the
Speaker 1: same thing. It is a guy who's gassed at the
Speaker 1: end of games.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: The good news is when Kawhi comes back, his usage
Speaker 1: rating may drop ten percent, at least five percent. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna drop because last season it was
Speaker 1: ten percent lower with Kawhi and Paul George. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna drop at least five percent. Once Kawhi gets back,
Speaker 1: he'll be on the ball a lot more. It will
Speaker 1: help James Harden's legs immensely, I think in every way,
Speaker 1: not just the turnovers, shooting percentages, everything, even though he
Speaker 1: has been shooting it better, it's really just I think
Speaker 1: from he's missing still a lot at the rim. But
Speaker 1: it's a concern That's why I have been saying the
Speaker 1: priority to me is not a backup big. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they couldn't use a better one. I'm saying, in
Speaker 1: order of strongest need to weakest need, or biggest need
Speaker 1: two smaller needs, I'm saying it's a ball handler because
Speaker 1: KPJ is not cutting enough for me. He's too erratic.
Speaker 1: He reminds me of Russ at times, like he can't
Speaker 1: create for himself, or he can just lose the basketball
Speaker 1: out of bounce. We've seen that, like literally, like a
Speaker 1: guy just playing off of him and him going between
Speaker 1: the legs and just goes out of bounce. I want
Speaker 1: someone more sure handed. But can you find that guy
Speaker 1: that can also be an efficient scorer and not be
Speaker 1: hunted defensively. That's that's the problem. You're asking to check
Speaker 1: all those boxes, which usually means you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: give up a lot to get that player. And I
Speaker 1: don't think they should be giving up a lot right
Speaker 1: now until they see how Kawhi Leonard looks, until they
Speaker 1: can see if he can stay healthy. I'm just not
Speaker 1: giving up any more future draft capital or young assets.
Speaker 1: They've done that, and there is a toll to pay
Speaker 1: or a tax to pay on that. Sometimes literally with
Speaker 1: the CPA, you go over the first and second apron.
Speaker 1: They're under the first apron, which is good. They do
Speaker 1: have flexibility. But I just don't think until you see
Speaker 1: how Kawhi Leonard looks, you shouldn't make a big swing. Now,
Speaker 1: if you could get somebody, it doesn't cost you much
Speaker 1: by all means, if you can pull off an Urn
Speaker 1: Norman Pale type of trade when they got him, the
Speaker 1: swindling of the Portland trail Blazers. Oh, I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, all right. Before we get out
Speaker 1: of here, I'm fine with this man. Daniel West, our
Speaker 1: producer here, how the West was won. We're getting the
Speaker 1: Western Conference standing's update, as we always do on Clippers Talk.
Speaker 1: To end the show from producer Dan West.
Speaker 6: Adam, I wish I had better news today, but the Clippers,
Speaker 6: with this loss at the moment, are in the play
Speaker 6: in zone again at number seven. Okay, see on an
Speaker 6: eleven game winning streak is your one Grizzlies, two Rockets, three, Maps, four, Nuggets, five, six, Lakers, seventh, Clippers,
Speaker 6: eight Wolves, ninth Spurs with their win tonight and tenth
Speaker 6: the Warriors sitting there right about the Phoenix Suns, who
Speaker 6: are the first out.
Speaker 1: Okay, so earlier, Okay, see beat Minnesota, which did help
Speaker 1: out the Clippers a little bit. Yeah, Minnesota is still
Speaker 1: behind them. Tonight Lakers are taking on the Cleveland Cavaliers
Speaker 1: and that game's going on now. But we don't want
Speaker 1: to do counter programming. We want Cleveland to win that game,
Speaker 1: be nice. And then I guess do we want Phoenix
Speaker 1: or Memphis to lose?
Speaker 6: It's a good question.
Speaker 1: Memphis is up seventy one to sixty two in Phoenix
Speaker 1: with nine minutes left. The Suns are starting to fall apart.
Speaker 1: I'm almost less worried about the Suns. They're fifteen and sixteen.
Speaker 1: Then maybe you can have Memphis lose a couple and
Speaker 1: somehow chase them down.
Speaker 6: Grizzlyes are twenty two wins, Clippers with nineteen. So yeah,
Speaker 6: that's I would say that's a bigger can. Just looking
Speaker 6: up as opposed to looking down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well though, bearing Phoenix, there's nothing wrong with that either.
Speaker 1: I know how Clipper Nation feels about the Phoenixes, but
Speaker 1: it's understandable too. All Right, this is a clearer picture
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Daniel, of course, well done as always.
Speaker 6: Happy New Year. By the way, I'll talk to you
Speaker 6: next year.
Speaker 1: Talk to you next year. The dad jokes keep coming
Speaker 1: here first, Carlo, now, Daniel, this is no joke. The
Speaker 1: Clippers lost one twenty two to eighty six in San Antonio,
Speaker 1: but maybe the final punchline isn't out yet they could
Speaker 1: win an ok see unttally redeem themselves. Tip time for
Speaker 1: that one on January tecond on Thursday is that five
Speaker 1: pregame show starting at four? Before we get out of here,
Speaker 1: I do want to thank the Clippers organization, Ralph Lawler,
Speaker 1: Ryan Seeman, no what ego? Carlo Jimenez on the call,
Speaker 1: the callers, the listeners, the chatters in here. Love y'all.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Be safe out there.
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