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Speaker 1: Today I want to draw your attention to some resources

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that are often overlooked for businesses in La City and

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La County. It is not easy to have a business

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here as you as you hear with just the whole

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struggle with the destination aka procrastination Grinshaw. It is not

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easy with the economy the way it is to have

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a business anywhere. But there are some resources that are

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meant to make it a little easier, and sometimes we

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overlook them. The County of Los Angeles has something called

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the Department of Economic Opportunity. Sounds vague and broad, but

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in fact it has some specific and very targeted kinds

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of help for you, the small business owner. They will

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help you get your small business certification and register you

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with the county, which can help you do business with

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the County of Los Angeles, a vast organization is bigger

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than many nations. And when you think, well, my business

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is too small, I can't contract with the county. That

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may not be because a lot of times you can

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work under a larger business as a subcontractor, or it

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might be a small contract. This is true for food service,

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for anything from you know, being a publicist or a

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communications specialist to laying down cement so they can help

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you get certified. They can help you find those contracts,

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and they have special webinars. They have workshops and trainings

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to help you get your business on track and get

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your paperwork ducks in a row. They also have VIP

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access to networking events and some discounts for small businesses.

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You can go to Opportunity dot LA County dot gov.

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That's Opportunity dot Lacounty dot gov. The giant, massive apparatus

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that is Los Angeles County has an Office of Small Business.

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I would wager that most small businesses have no idea

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that that even exists. You can get your first one

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on one business counseling session free in person or even

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on the phone. They have an Entrepreneur Center in East LA.

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Or they have a virtual small Business concierge. If you're

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not great online, you can call the Office of Small

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Business at eight four four four three two forty nine

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hundred eight four four four three two forty nine hundred.

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That's the county. These are services and resources that we

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and I'm talking about small business as I'm talking about BIPOP,

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but I'm also talking specifically about black owned businesses. Many

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times we just don't take advantage of them. We don't

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even know they are there. Now, that's the county. The

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City of La also has its own business office, and

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there's something called the Business Navigator. Go to business dot

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Lacity dot gov and they will help you apply for

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your business tax registration, certificate, your business license. They can

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also put you in touch with city contracts. Keep in

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mind that you probably live in both or work or

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have your business in the city and the County of

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La permits. They also can help if you need guidance

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around different things like different city business resources, disability compliance,

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what department you have to go to to do what

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all of this is. At business dot Lacity dot gov.

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Business dot Lacity dot gov. They can even tell you

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how to open a business if you've yet to do that.

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They have a concierge service. If you have questions about

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what your next steps are, you can register your business.

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They also have a Restaurant and Small Business Express program

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that will help you if you are a restaurant that

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is not a big chain, to streamline your process, your permits,

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your inspections, and all of these things. So I want

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to draw your attention to these places because sometimes as

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small business owners, and I am one of those, we

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get overwhelmed. It just seems like too much to keep

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up with all the paperwork and certifications and everything that

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we need. And there is some help whether you're managing

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an existing business or starting a business. You can go

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to business dot Lacity dot gov. And lastly, I want

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to invite you if you're interested, I am going to

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be MCing an event for tech Lamert their Creative Creative

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Pathways Social. Now. This is a program that is teamed

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up small businesses with tech experts and creators, the young

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people who are interning with these businesses to help them

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get their technology piece together because many times with the

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small businesses, we might not even have that aspect of

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our business together at all. That is taking place Friday

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the twenty first, this coming Friday. It will be from

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noon to two downtown LA And if you want to go,

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you can find the link. You can find the invitation

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at event right. It's TEC Creative Pathways Social TEC tech

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Lamert is always TEC and it would be just a

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great opportunity to network for your small business. I will

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be there, I will see you there. This is a

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vision Lab the Mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, Tech

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Lamurd and the Brotherhood Crusade, And you can go to

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Creative Pathways La dot event, Bright dot com. Creative Pathways

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la dot event, Bright dot com. Come do a little

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bit of networking, an opportunity for your business to possibly

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get connected with yet another path to more business success

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and more thriving. So that's my take on wealth building Wednesday.

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For today. Hope you'll tap into some of these resources

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and opportunities because we want you to thrive. Phone lines

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are open now eight hundred nine to fifteen eighty, eight

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hundred nine to oh fifteen eighty. Let's talk national, international

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politics and whatever's going on right around where you be at.

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I'm Dominique. The premium for KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. Conversation continues.

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You are invited in eight hundred nine to oh fifteen

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eighty eight hundred nine two oh fifteen eighty. So if

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you have something to say about the conversation that Paul

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Lee and Attorney Japerson Lynn put in motion about the

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black and brown question, you can call. If you got

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something else on your mind, you can call. I feel

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like this is something that I've talked about ad nauseam

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because it's not a static thing. It changes over time,

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as Jya points out right, So I come from the

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San Francisco Bay area, where the collaboration and I'll say

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allyship is much stronger than here in the Bay in LA.

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When I first came to LA, I took a lot

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of heat from people because I just assumed that black

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and Latino people were allies. That's how it is in

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the Bay. It's not even a question here. It was

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much more of a question. And I didn't realize that

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had a lot to do with a gang situation, what

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happens inside the prison system. And so while I do

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agree with Jaia that we cannot ignore where we are now,

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we cannot ignore where we are now with you know,

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the fluctuation and maybe worsening, I mean maybe, to be fair,

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maybe it is worsening. I think it's worsening because of

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the immigration debate and way the way the Republican Party

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has positioned black people, and then people like tariqu Nashid

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who have created a broader division between any you know,

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anyone American so called American, and anyone US American and

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anyone else, whether it be between African Americans and Africans,

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Black Americans and Africans or Caribbeans or people from Latin Americas.

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So they're is that and Paul I don't know if

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he couldn't stay or the call drop, but if you

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want to finish your point, you're welcome to do.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: The thing is that these these I think it kind

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of goes in cycles from what I've observed, because when

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problems in Hawaiian gardens and parts of la where Latino

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gangs were making it clear that black folks weren't welcome

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in those areas. And then we have had and we

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had some strong mandates coming out of the prison system.

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and alliances. I point out when I talked about Via

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Ragosa and when I talked about Tom Bradley, that's just

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one small part of the story. The California State Assembly,

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we would hand off from black to Latino, to Black

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to Latino, Speaker of the House, Leader of the state

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and and it went like that. So I think that

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is uh, that is a parallel tract. Look at an

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organization like the Community Coalition where they have won major,

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major victories for black and Latino students who go to

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the same schools. Public schools I'm talking about like the

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you know, the A through G, the the advanced placement

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requirements that were not available in South LA schools. The

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only reasons those became available is because black and Latino

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parents and students banded together and challenged the school board,

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challenged the state, and we had reallocations of funds and

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now those are available. So it's a parallel tract. On

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the one hand, you've had this division in fighting and

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and allyship that has led to some real victories. If

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black people don't vote for Antonio Viegosa, he never becomes mayor,

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period full stop. If Latinos don't vote for Karen Bass,

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there's no there is no mayor Bass. That is those

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are just facts. So I think the division is real.

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be aware of it. But also the unity is real,

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and I think we have to guard it and build

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it and foster it because that's the thing. And to

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pretend that isn't there doesn't benefit us either. I know, yeah,

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I know, we did redistricting. But what I'm talking and

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Paula is in the YouTube chat, but what I'm talking

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about is what Nuri Martinez, Gil Sadillo, Kevin de Leone.

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Those are the council members that were conspiring. And then

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you had the head of the La County Federation of

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labor ron Aerera. What they were talking about was moving

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the boundaries so that assets like USC would be moved

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out of those districts, and that plan that they were

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discussing did not happen. Spook says there is no black

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Brown coalition and that's just demonstrably not true. Look at

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the voting numbers. Look who voted for Barack Obama. Look

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who voted for Tom Bradley. Look who voted for Karen Bass.

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the City of Los Angeles. That coalition is there, It's functioning.

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the answer to everything or the end all be all.

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benefits both communities tremendously. Is their competition, yes, is their animosity,

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of course, especially when you talk about new waves of

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folks coming into this country that have been propagandized by

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the Hollywood anti black machine, and they come into this country,

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whether they're White, Latino, even other black people from other

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black countries, they come into this country with stereotypes about

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black people, with disparaging information about American black people in

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their brains, even British black people. We've talked about that

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on this show, right the David o'loyewo controversy where he

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kind of was saying that, you know, if you mix

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a British accent with slave and you know slow, you

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get the Black American accent. We know, But where do

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those attitudes come from. They come from the Hollywood anti

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black image machine. And I do think, yes, black people

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should look out for our own communities. But to say

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there's no coalition is demonstrably false. It's just not true.

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or maybe it fits you know, a bad experience that

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you've had, and there are plenty to be had. We

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do have examples of Latinos keeping black people off job sites,

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and we do have examples of black folks, you know,

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jacking up immigrant you know, vendors. We have those examples.

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But to say that there's no coalition is just wrong.

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And Fahima is correct. Latinos were protesting in twenty twenty

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and continue to protest that Black Lives matter. Black Lives

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Matter is still a black led and run organization. But boom,

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you want to see, you see coalition. You can see

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it right there. So you know, I'm I feel like

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this idea that we have to say, oh no, you

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know that there is no coalition or as is saying

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in the chat, that we are on code and only

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looking out for ourselves. You know. Okay, if that's your perspective,

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live your reality. That's not my That's not what I

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observe as a resident of South Los Angeles for the

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past sheesh thirty years, That's not my experience. I have

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seen the haterism, I have seen anti blackness, I have

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seen anti immigrant sentiment, and of course anti blackness is

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the king of white supremacists, talking points, attitudes, actions. So

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hate crime data. It's always black people that are under attack.

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I'm clear on that more than anyone else, no matter

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what the headline says. You know, if this cycle we're

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talking about anti Asian hate, it doesn't mean there is

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no such thing as anti Asian hate. But we understand

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that Black people remain the primary targets. If this news

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cycle it's anti semitism because of you know, the media

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spin around Gaza, we understand that anti Semitism is real,

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but we also know that black people remain the primary

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targets of hate in this country. That is not in dispute.

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I'm not delusional, but to say there's no coalition is

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delusional because the facts, the data of the reality on

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the ground do not support that viewpoint. Let's go to

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a mean calling us from LA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning, good morning. W e yes, sir, yeah,

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can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 3: Okay, good good. I'm not gonna act like I have

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the answer, but I want you to explain its faith

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to me. You know, I have a real estate a broker,

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but if our people don't have jobs, how can they buy.

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How and how can I you know, how can I

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make living?

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Speaker 4: You know? And this is my question to.

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Speaker 3: You passed by all these constructions, like these people are

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building these apartments all over, commercial buildings all over.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes I just hope and pray when I drive up,

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Speaker 3: That's been American working. Yeah, we have a hard had

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Speaker 5: Can you explain to me what is happening in this

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housing situation where almost look like for me, ninety nine

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percent of the people working all these buildings these other.

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Speaker 3: Are Latino and I want your answers explain it to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean this has been this is one of

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the areas that I'm talking about where you have a

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lot of nepotism. You know, you've got folks who are

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on jobs. They help their families, their relatives, their neighbors

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get those jobs. That's part of what's happening. We have

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been Historically Black people have been shut out of the

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building trades. There are apprentice ship programs, there is the

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LA Black Worker Center, there are initiatives to try to

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counteract that. In fact, speaking of Mark Ridley Thomas, who

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I also still stand by Paul and current price you know.

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with the builders to force them to hire local. They

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call them local hire initiatives or project labor agreements. But

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they can't say you have to hire black people. Thank you,

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Ward Connolly. You cannot have affirmative action in the state

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of California. But what you can do is you can

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say you have to hire people that live within this region.

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Those are some of the remedies, but this is one

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of the areas that has been a huge problem. I

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don't know, you know what there is to explain other

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than have you been to the LA Black Workers Center

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to try to join with them to make sure that

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we are getting those jobs. Have you gone to an

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apprenticeship program that some of these building trades have, like

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ib W Local eleven has one that are are are

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you know organizations black led organizations like Second Call have

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pathways into Have you referred young people into them? I

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feel like we black people have to do better with

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the word of mouth, with getting our people in uh

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and with you know, advocating for our people and making

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sure our politicians do the same.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, as just a little spin off, then well,

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if if you're explaining something to me right now as

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a solution. All right, shouldn't that be our our goal?

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Our job to uh spread the word on how to

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solve these problems.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you what your job is, but if

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I think if we wait for someone else to solve

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black people problems, we're going to be waiting for all eternity.

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We've got news, traffic and sports then more on KP

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Talk fifteen eighty. Yes, indeed, eight hundred and nine two

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fifteen eighty is the number to call if you want

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to join the conversation. I'm always happy to see you

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and hear from you. Also, you know you can jump

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in on the YouTube chat, which a lot of people

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are doing right now. Fahima says black people are losing opportunities.

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This administration is dismantling. That is more of a threat

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to jobs than someone else has. I'm not quite sure

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why she puts it that way, but I know what

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she's talking about. She's talking about hundreds of thousands of

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black people, black women especially, who have lost their jobs,

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our jobs because of this administration specifically. And I do

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think it's interesting that Tarik now she doesn't have any

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smoke for them, but he's got plenty of smoke for immigrants.

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I also would say, Paul, to your point about redistricting,

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redistricting happens every time there is a census. So we

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will have another redistrict in twenty thirty and we will

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redraw the lines of the city council. I thought they

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were gonna get redrawn because of the Charter Commission was

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meant to create more council districts, but that appears to

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be going nowhere. We also got someone in this chat

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who's doing exactly what they do online talking about the

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La Jazz festivals saying the problem was it was R

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and B and that there was not one jazz person

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on the lineup, which is totally bs and not at

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all true. And I don't know where you're getting your information.

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It is true. We had Charlie Wilson, we had Parliament Funkadelic,

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we had others on the lineup that were not strictly jazz,

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like almost every jazz festival in the world does, by

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the way, but there was lots of jazz, and I

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clearly you don't know what you're talking about. Kenyon Dixon

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is not jazz. Chief a Jua's not jazz p. Descoveto

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is not jazz. Michelle Coltrane is not jazz, Like, what

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are you even talking about? I hate it when people

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do that. K Keon Harold is not jazz. Jason Marsalis

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is not jazz. What are you talking about? There was

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lots of jazz on here. And so that's the kind

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of thing I'm talking about. People go on the internet

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and they either repeat what they heard or they just

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make some stuff up and then they run with the

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talking point with no actual information. Yes, John Legend was there,

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Rafael sa Dik, Janelle Money, Charlie Wilson, Parliament, Funkadelic, And

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that is what a lot of jazz festivals do. They

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get jazz influenced R and B headliners and they have

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lots of other jazz artists, and that is exactly what

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was happening here. Tis Martin is not jazz. What what? What?

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What world are you living in? I think that that's

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the kind of stuff that is very unhelpful. And you know,

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and and I don't know if we're going to start

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segregating jazz festivals no R and B, Well, no, where

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are we driving the line? No soft jazz, only hard,

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straight ahead jazz. No avant garde jazz, you know, like, Okay, No,

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that wasn't the problem. Clearly. If you missed it, you

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can find yesterday's show on YouTube, or you can find

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it wherever you get your podcasts, as with all of

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our shows. Let's go to Fred calling us from LA

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Good morning, Fred.

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Speaker 4: Hello Dominique. Yeah, three things you got the ninth District wrong.

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It may be mostly quote unquote Latino, but most of

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them can't vote because of the illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: Number two, Fred, before you go on to your next

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talking point, where are you getting your data from?

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Speaker 4: I live in Los Angeles all in my life.

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Speaker 1: So every Latino that you see in the ninth you

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say are you a citizen? And you make them show

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you their papers. I want to know the source. No, No,

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you don't get to just say stuff like what where's

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the Where are you getting this information?

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Speaker 4: I'm my own source. A lot of the people in

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the ninth District are illegal immigrants and they're not legally

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not allowed to vote. Now all of them are you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, Fred? That is just factually untrue. Okay, what's

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your next point?

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Speaker 4: Okay? I thought it was awful. Allowsy to tell this?

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Smiley didn't give you credit for getting the traffic straighten

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out on Crenshaw and the parking straight Now it was

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the traffic engineer that did it, and you should have

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got the credit.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean to be fair, the owner of this

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radio station has led the charge on the you know,

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the destination crunchaw or as he calls it, procrastination Crenshaw.

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Speaker 4: I got all right, the last one. Solve homelessness. You

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can't solve homelessness unless you're willing to address the problem.

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So many of the people in their twenties and thirties,

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they don't want to work, they don't want to pay.

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You got free loaders. You yourself said you need a

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thirty five hour thirty five dollars an hour job to

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get an apartment.

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Speaker 1: They don't, right, or two jobs. But look, let me

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ask you again, where what's your source? Like? Where are

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you getting these ideas that most of the homeless people

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are young and lazy, because, according to a really great

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recent article in the La Times, in fact, the opposite

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is true. The largest portion of people that we see

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on house right now are people older Americans who can

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no longer work enough to pay their rent.

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Speaker 4: Now, that may be true, coming from the top side,

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but from the bottom side, it was the young people.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I went, I went down the Crenshall the other day.

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I have to go that way. I lived. All of

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my people live in the neighborhood. I grew up in

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the neighborhood. And to take a look at see and

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I stopped at one of the restaurants. All the homeless

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people that came in there, and I'm going to call

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it harassed, And I thought it was intriguing. They were

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all young. And that's what I see in the neighborhood,

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and that's what I see all over the place wherever

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I go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, so the young people really like you, is

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what I'm concluding. I'm not getting young crazy people really

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like you for whatever reason. Fred, I'm not concluding that

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that means all the unhoused people are young and you know,

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like to harass you. It just means those are the

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ones you're running into. The data show that more of

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the unhoused a huge proportion of the unhoused, and actually

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my eyeballs support that data. But maybe I'm just not

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hanging I should hang out with you, Fred, that the

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data show that more un housed at least Angelino's are

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older folks who can no longer afford their rent. And

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if you think logically, that makes sense. I'm working two

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or three jobs to pay my la jacked up high rent.

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Now I can no longer work because I'm not you know,

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I'm not well, I'm not healthy, or I'm too advanced

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in age to really be working like that, And so

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how do I pay my rent? That's what. But that

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doesn't mean you don't want to work, That doesn't mean

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you're young and lazy. It means our system has failed

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because we do not have a proper safety in it

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to take care of the elders who have already given

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so much to our nation. That's why we're that's why

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we're electing democratic socialists. That's why people are ready for

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a real, substantial change instead of just this little tinkering

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around the edges between two parties. That's why there's the dissatisfaction.

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I think that's a big part of it. We need

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policies that support the greater good. We can't throw our

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older Americans away like trash on the streets. What kind

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of society does that?

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Speaker 4: Can I give you a policy? Okay, they say there's

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seventy eight thousand people on the streets in the county,

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twenty eight thousand in the city. Mayor Bath says she

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takes twenty five off the street every day, but twenty

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eight we go to the streets every day. It would

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be much much better to concentrate on those twenty eight

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people that have gone on the street and even raised

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the number to thirty and stopped those thirty from going

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on the streets. And yes, they are some of the

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more older people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of them. All right, Fred, thank you

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so much. So the solution is get more people off

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the streets. Brilliant. I think we all knew that. Yeah,

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I haven't heard the mayor make that talking point, but

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I have heard Pete from uh why am I blanking

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on his name? From la CAN, the Community Action Network.

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He's the leader of that organization, and he has said

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that for twenty five, we take twenty five off, twenty

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eight go on. What that means is more people are

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falling into houselessness and are getting pulled out of houselessness.

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So the answer is get more people off the streets. Yes,

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I agree with you, Fred. The question is how, and

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that's where we differ. Yeah, this book is spitting some

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straight up trumpy Trump Trump talking points. The majority of

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FBA support Trump's immigration policy, and it's bringing back back

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black jobs. That's you know, if you want to live

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in the land of the Lulu, I cannot help you.

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But the fact is not bringing back How do six

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hundred thousand people? How have six hundred thousand black people

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lost jobs under this administration and you're still saying it's

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bringing back black jobs. What They're not even black jobs

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in the Republican parties unless you know, and I guess

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apparently unless you're in Florida. Yeah, no, that's actually not true.

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And I do agree with forensic. Nobody's illegal. They might

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be undocumented, calling people illegal immigrants or aliens. You know. Okay,

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we got folks on the phone. Let's go to the

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folks on the phone. Rebecca from Agora Hills. Is that

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what it says? Good morning, Rebecca, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hi, good morning, Thank you, Thank you for the topic.

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You know, I have been thinking about so much lately

478
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because I attribute the whole scandal with the LA City

479
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Council members making the racist statements. I attribute that as

480
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one factor that led to the election of our current DA.

481
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The morally corrupt, evil Nate Hoffman, because if you remember

482
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some of the statements made or that George Gascone was

483
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with the blacks, but a lot people to remember that

484
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,200
they also attacked George Gascon being brown people. And I'm

485
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,519
a brown woman, by the way, and it was it

486
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was just such an embarrassing moment for me. But they

487
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attacked George Gascon also as a what decon from an

488
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area of Mexico, and you know, it hit a nerve

489
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,000
for me because I've faced similar attacks. I'm part jacky.

490
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:02,640
It's obvious to so brown members of the community that

491
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I'm yaking by my nose and I face racism attacked

492
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,680
because of that, but my.

493
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Speaker 1: Overall indigenous heritage, yes.

494
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Speaker 2: Yes, And so my overall message is that racism is

495
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everyone's fight, and you know, we got to stick together.

496
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And I think that I think that Molina Abdullah has

497
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been just the ultimate leader in these struggles because she

498
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did what Black Lives Matter led, you know, the campaign

499
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against Kevin de Leone, thank God.

500
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Speaker 6: Got him out of there.

501
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Speaker 2: And it was also an embarrassing time for me because

502
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I remember the brown Berets are standing behind Kevin de

503
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Leon and I'm like what is going on here? The

504
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,799
brown berets actually formed because they were alliance with.

505
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: The black I mean, the fake new brown Berets. I

506
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:07,079
don't you know, it's like everybody running around calling themselves

507
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:11,039
black panthers. Where did where did you get your charter from?

508
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,359
Is the question? But yeah, I mean you're talking about

509
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the complexities that happened behind the scenes and the ways

510
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that race and you know, even divisions within races, right,

511
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,880
different indigenous groups or different black groups are pitted against

512
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each other to promote the conservative agenda. I hadn't heard

513
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:37,920
that take on Nathan Hawkman that Gascon is with the

514
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,680
blacks aka why because he was getting rid of some

515
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:47,880
of these egregiously long prison sentences that were inhumane and unconstitutional,

516
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and that just so happened to affect a lot of

517
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:54,000
black people, I assume that's why, but also affected Latinos.

518
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,839
So it's so crazy how we are manipulated into voting

519
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,519
against our own interests and now you know, you get

520
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,319
what you get what you got. I do think we

521
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were also in a state wide wave of the old

522
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,759
fashioned scare people into voting conservative with you know, law

523
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,079
and order remembers, smash and grabs, were in the news

524
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:16,759
every single day. It was the same footage over and

525
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:19,839
over again. And even though crime was down, we were

526
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being told that we were going to hell in a handbasket.

527
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And so that, you know, conservatives always jump in. That's

528
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why we passed props. They passed Props thirty six. That's

529
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how we got a Nathan Hoffman.

530
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Speaker 2: Right and why to remind people too is just it

531
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along with similar veins. You remember when when we were

532
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fighting for reparations a couple of years ago and Bill

533
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Esly who's now the Attorney general or you know win

534
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,640
a Trump He's yeah, he's.

535
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: A prosecutor for the Trump administration. Yeah.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an assembly member at the time, and he

537
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,559
was helping to pass the reparation bill.

538
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Speaker 1: No he didn't. He said he would, but he never did.

539
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,079
Speaker 2: Said yeah he had co sponsored.

540
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Speaker 6: No he didn't.

541
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Speaker 1: Even he did not. He did not co sponsor one.

542
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,880
That's a rumor. He said he was going to. He

543
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,599
tried to play black people against Assembly Member Isaac Bryan

544
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,360
by saying he was going to. But Bill is Sale

545
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,920
never passed a bill, he never co sponsored a bill

546
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,280
because he's because he was in the Republican minority, not

547
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
only that he was widely unpopular. He tried to say

548
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360
his name was Bill Ao to try to get black

549
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,320
people to like him. Well, then why have you been

550
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,880
going by Bill for the past twenty years? But yeah,

551
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,519
I mean it's the same thing. It's exactly the same

552
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:41,840
thing that you're talking about, Rebecca, where people, you know,

553
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,920
play our lack of deep knowledge and our own resentments

554
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:55,199
and interpersonal community conflicts to mess over all of us

555
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,559
right against the best interests of black people and Latino people.

556
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In that case, Rebecca, thanks so much for your call.

557
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She called me at eight hundred and nine to oh,

558
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fifteen eighty. I invite you to do the same. I'm

559
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,559
Dominique de Prima for KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. The chat

560
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,480
is especially robust today. If you want to jump in,

561
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,440
you can go to YouTube dot com KBLA fifteen eighty.

562
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Don't forget also living on our YouTube many many interesting

563
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,760
and varied conversations as podcasts. They live there. You can

564
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,599
get them wherever you get your podcasts as well. That's okay, Paul.

565
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,639
We always the black Brown convo always goes on and

566
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,480
on and on, especially in LA because that's where we

567
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that's where we live. We live together. Y'all can see

568
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what you want. We go to the same schools, we

569
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,079
go to the same stores, hospitals. Not all of the

570
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:48,760
same stores, not all of the same schools, but we

571
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be there. Let's go to Carolyn calling us from LA

572
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good morning, jombo o la hotep. What's up, Carolyn?

573
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Speaker 6: How many call you blessed?

574
00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:01,119
Speaker 1: How are you?

575
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Speaker 6: I'm blessed in regards to blacks doing their own thing

576
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and not including or you know, Latinos or whatever. Okay,

577
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,760
what's wrong with that? You know, black people have got

578
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,480
we have got to start. Uh. I'm I'm, I'm both

579
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I'm Native American and uh ancestry of of Africa. But

580
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and then let me tell you something. The only time

581
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that I've been called the in word in this town

582
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,599
was from a Latinos. Okay, I have yes, I've had

583
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:50,960
experienced that at least four times. Really okay, yes, and

584
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I have been in the hard or like.

585
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,639
Speaker 1: I mean they were and they were saying it as

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a slur. Obviously they were saying.

587
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,519
Speaker 6: No, no, it was not a slur.

588
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,199
Speaker 1: They were saying it with a not a hard R.

589
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Were they like, what's up my N word? Like how no?

590
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 6: No, no, no, No, it was first time I was

591
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:18,679
downtown Okay and into the and I went into the store,

592
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:23,280
you know, the Story store, and so it was like

593
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,280
about two young latinos there and they were marking, you know,

594
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so I was looking like, oh, now she's looking over there,

595
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,559
but you know, why, why is she even in here?

596
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Or you know that kind of thing. I got you.

597
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Speaker 1: So that is a slur that if they call you

598
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the N word, they mean it as in that context,

599
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they mean it as a slur. Are there racist? Absolutely?

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00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:48,400
Hold on, Hold on, Carolyn, Carolyn, Carolyn, Carolyn, Carolyn, Carolyn.

601
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:50,840
I'm happy to listen, but you also have to listen.

602
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,239
It's a conversation. We go back and forth. So I

603
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:55,519
want to be clear. I was not saying that I

604
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,280
don't think we should as black people have the right

605
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,840
or the ability to do our own thing. I think

606
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,639
it's great, you know, sweep around your own front door,

607
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,599
organize your block, organize your community. Carolyn, I was never

608
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saying that. My point is that coalition has served us well.

609
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,559
It doesn't mean you have to do everything in coalition.

610
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It doesn't mean it's the answer to everything, but allyship

611
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:20,639
and coalition between black and brown has produced results. That's

612
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all I was saying. Go ahead, Carolyn.

613
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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, yeah, I agree with you on that. But

614
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so I mean, because all black people ain't good all

615
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,719
white people that.

616
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Speaker 1: What do you do when they call you that? Do

617
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:36,320
you beat them up? Like? What do you do? What

618
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,760
are you doing?

619
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Speaker 6: I just you know, I just I just call them

620
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something else.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you just threw a knock at him?

622
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:46,039
All right?

623
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:47,199
Speaker 6: Exactly?

624
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: Wow?

625
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Speaker 6: You know, yes, yes, you know. It's like one time

626
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I was I was in line, you know, but it

627
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,280
was in we're in the cars, and uh so it

628
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,800
was the person and in front it was this Latino

629
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,280
man and behind him, I don't know who it was,

630
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but hours behind the other person. So I was the

631
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,880
third one, and he gets out the car, you know,

632
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,559
because I'm in a convertible, so now you can see,

633
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,960
you know, and so he's like, you know what that

634
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,519
shut up in word, you know, blah blah blah, you

635
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,639
know that kind of thing. And another time, you know,

636
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,960
there's these three I think it was four of these

637
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:35,239
Latino young girls in a convertible, and so they're going

638
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,039
to try to cut me off. Right I'm there, you know,

639
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:40,679
and you have to get to a stop sign, I

640
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,079
mean to stop light, and they're going to try to

641
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,239
cut you. So I was like, hey, you know, just

642
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,320
come down, young ladies. You know we got away for

643
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,360
squell you in word, you know, and you can tell

644
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,239
there were Latinos and you know, and.

645
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unacceptable and it's bad and I you know,

646
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,960
I've and and sometimes it happens when you might not

647
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,079
even know it because they're gonna say mayat, which means

648
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:12,719
the same thing in Spanish, but I mean white supremacy, racism.

649
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,400
People would adhere to the illusion of white supremacy. Yeah,

650
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:20,800
are there Latinos? Yeah? Are there are there Asians? Yeah?

651
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,400
Are there white people? Yeah? Now you're talking about individual racism,

652
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,559
and that's something that has to be tackled. I'm never

653
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:33,039
quite sure how to respond to that myself. Sometimes I

654
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,280
want to cuss somebody out, and I admit I have.

655
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Sometimes I want to go get the big homie and

656
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,280
have them deal with it. But do we make our

657
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,039
policies and strategic keyword strategic political decisions based on the

658
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:53,960
fact that there are are racists present among a group

659
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of people. I would argue that strategy has to as

660
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,880
a sahar Ali would say, be eyes not emotional. We're

661
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,599
talking our well being next Oosa. Doctor Noel Reed joins

662
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us on kb LA Talk fifteen eighty