WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.240 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:10.199 Have a great Memorial Day. We'll of course be back 5 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:12.640 at work tomorrow. But it's one of the segments we 6 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:15.839 did recently that we thought, you know, came in near 7 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:18.320 the top of the list when it came to good segments. 8 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:22.679 So have fun landlines are coming back because we need 9 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:27.280 to teach kids how to use the telephone. Telephone, telephone. 10 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.280 Why is it that they need a physical phone to 11 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:34.759 learn etiquette with. 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.159 I don't know, because we're big dumb animals and there 13 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.600 are weird triggers like that, or it's the people who 14 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:45.960 are teaching telephone etiquette feel like that was the last 15 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:48.679 time we had good telephone etiquette. So maybe that's why. 16 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:53.159 Maybe that's why. Maybe it's like teaching somebody to drive, 17 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.640 but doing it on a stick shift as opposed to 18 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:56.880 an automatic transmission. 19 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:57.600 It's funny. 20 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.200 Older people are delightful on the telephone, aren't they. Yeah, 21 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:05.760 they really are, more so I think than even in person. 22 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.840 People that are of an older generation are delightful on 23 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:10.280 the phone. 24 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:11.680 How old would you say? 25 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:18.159 I would say, seventies, sixties, seventies, there's like a there's 26 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:20.359 different bar for behavior. 27 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:24.359 You're awful on the telephone. 28 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:28.239 I know, because there's two Okay, what do you that's 29 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:28.840 not fair. 30 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.519 First of all, I have no idea because I don't 31 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:35.120 spend much time on the phone since there was something 32 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.439 going on over there. So I decided to throw this 33 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.439 little bait in the water. 34 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.000 If you text me on a Sunday morning, and then 35 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.719 if you were to have called me, there's two reasons 36 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.519 why you would call me. Yeah, something awful. That's why 37 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:55.079 I just text you. I know that's something awful has happened, or. 38 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:56.000 I'm not going to be to work. 39 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.640 Yes, And because something is awful, that's happened, So that's 40 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:02.239 going to be an odd and that's going to be 41 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.959 an awful phone call. Most of I shouldn't even say 42 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.519 most of the time, yes, a lot of the times. 43 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:07.560 That's my case from me. 44 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.120 Yeah, So when you pick up the phone for me, 45 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:15.719 it's most likely what I hear is this Yes, what 46 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:16.080 is it? 47 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:16.759 Yeah? 48 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:20.240 Yeah, that's because something has happened. When you called me 49 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:22.039 last week, the last time you called me is because 50 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:25.680 you started a fire right and I didn't even answer 51 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.439 the phone, which would have been bad, I assumed had 52 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:30.680 you started an actual fire. 53 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:32.479 That was the only reason I called you when I 54 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:36.759 started the fire in the home was because you had 55 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.479 talked earlier in the day about how I was kind 56 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:41.120 of in a mood where I was going to set 57 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.240 something on fire, or are you going to set the 58 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.199 building on fire? Or you had made some mention about fire, 59 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.000 and I was like, you're crazy, what are you talking about? 60 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:49.560 I'm fine? 61 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.000 And then I went home and promptly started a fire, right, 62 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:56.199 So I wanted you to have the payoff of your premonition. 63 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:01.919 There is a there's an article in The Atlantic magazine 64 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:08.840 about the end of American pop culture, and there's an 65 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.120 interesting way to look at this argument that we are 66 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:15.439 right now in one of the worst eras when it 67 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:19.360 comes to pop American specific American pop culture. 68 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:20.520 Well, you think about pop. 69 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:25.719 Culture, what do you think about You think about music, trends, fashion, right, 70 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.919 my movies, movies, things like that. A lot of it 71 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.800 is meme culture, a lot of it's TikTok culture. 72 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:37.680 Right, It's just changed, it's changed from what we remember. 73 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.039 But is it good? Can we can? Can you put 74 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:45.199 a value like that That's what I mean. Yeah, we 75 00:03:45.400 --> 00:03:50.919 like to think about when we have celebrated eighties and 76 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:55.960 nineties entertainment movies, TV shows and things like that, there 77 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:59.319 were there was a very different attitude towards those things 78 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.719 because they was a built in waiting period, whether it 79 00:04:02.719 --> 00:04:04.439 was a TV show like you said, last week, we 80 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:07.039 talked about did you see what happened on Seinfeld last night? 81 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.400 That was the discussion every Friday at school or at 82 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:12.199 college or at work, what did you watch Seinfeld last night? 83 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:14.000 Of course I watched Seinfeld last night. Of course it 84 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.639 was hilarious. But now it's have you seen this entire 85 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:20.399 season of did you. 86 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.480 Sit on your couch for nine hours? Like I did 87 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:24.279 on Sunday? 88 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:25.959 Oh? 89 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.519 Man plays into so many different ills of society, doesn't 90 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:30.040 it well? 91 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.720 And I think that there was a we had a 92 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.800 different attitude back then. If you had, it was the 93 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.560 delayed gratification of whatever. The album didn't come out until June. 94 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.000 You knew when it was coming out. They didn't preview 95 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.720 it with singles at least that were available to you. 96 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:45.920 You could hear it on the radio, but you couldn't 97 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.399 go out and buy that single necessarily before the big 98 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:49.879 album came out whatever, whatever. 99 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:55.360 The anticipation is a fantastic feeling, look no further than 100 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:01.319 Carly Simon. But anticipation is something nobody feels anymore because 101 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:05.560 we're instantly gratified with everything right, there is no anticipation. 102 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:11.759 The only anticipation that remains really is maybe waiting to 103 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:13.360 go on a trip if that's your thing. 104 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:14.120 If you're into. 105 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:16.279 Travel, sure, the countdown to your vacation. 106 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.120 Everything else is just it's right here, you want it now, 107 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.600 you got it, your tomorrow. 108 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:27.800 They also describe the explosion of creativity and creative expression 109 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:32.800 in the United States right now. More than five hundred 110 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:37.040 scripted TV shows get made every single year, and get this, 111 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:45.639 streaming services add about one hundred thousand songs every single Well. 112 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.000 What does that mean for the quality? Right, Let's talk 113 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:48.920 about it when we come back. 114 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.240 And with that, we'll wrap up that segment. 115 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.879 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 116 00:05:56.079 --> 00:05:57.279 AM six forty. 117 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:03.240 Special Memorial Day edition of the show. Today. I'm not here, 118 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:07.160 Shannon's not here. We'll both be back tomorrow. I give 119 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.319 you all the updated news about what's going on. So 120 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.519 this is one of our best of segments. Enjoy. We 121 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:16.800 were talking about this article from Spencer Cornhabra the worst 122 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.519 ever era of American pop culture and just in terms 123 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:23.839 of are we you know, movies all sound the same, 124 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:26.360 TV shows all sound the same. Art is the same 125 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.160 as it used to be, and a lot of times 126 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.480 the people that produce that kind of entertainment for us 127 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.399 are relying on the old things to bring us back. 128 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.160 I mean, they just re released was it Phantom Menace, 129 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.160 one of the Star Wars movies, and it made millions 130 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.639 of dollars at the box office. Everybody's seen that. We've 131 00:06:42.639 --> 00:06:46.120 all seen it. We've all seen it, and we still 132 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.759 will pay money for the things that we've seen before. 133 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.199 They also I had mentioned that there's about one hundred 134 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:57.360 thousand songs reportedly every day added to streaming services, and 135 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.160 I found this interesting. In twenty twenty four, new releases 136 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.639 accounted for a little more than a quarter of all 137 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:06.680 of the albums consumed in the United States, just a quarter. 138 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:09.519 That every year, a greater and greater percentage of the 139 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:13.160 albums that are streamed online would be considered catalog music 140 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.439 means at least eighteen months old. 141 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:16.160 Well. 142 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:22.600 In three twelve CE, the Roman Senate ordered the construction 143 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:28.079 of a monument called the Arch of Constantine. It incorporated 144 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:32.959 pieces from older monuments built in more glorious times for 145 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:37.360 the empire, which had begun its centuary a century's long decline. 146 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.839 This is a metaphor for modern culture. The arch is 147 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:48.639 the TV and film industry, enamored of reboots, spin offs, 148 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.040 the formulaic genre. 149 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:52.800 Fair like you were talking about. 150 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:56.240 I love this one line where he talks about Broadway 151 00:07:56.279 --> 00:08:01.839 theaters subsist on stunt cast revivals of old war horses. 152 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:08.160 One of those that's going on right now is Glengarry 153 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:13.360 Glenn Ross, with a cast that includes stand up comedians 154 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.519 at Academy Award winning actors. It's not just a bunch 155 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.720 of up and coming actors that you used to see 156 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.360 on Broadway. These are people that are kind of crossing 157 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:30.639 genres their word stunt cast in these shows. Does this 158 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.519 mean that we're declining? Does it mean we hit a 159 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.440 slow spot when it comes to innovation? 160 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:40.000 Sure, we are at the end of creativity. Have we 161 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:41.799 done all of the things? 162 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:50.519 If it's possible, and if artificial intelligence continues to progress 163 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:55.600 at the level that it does, we're really screwed because 164 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:59.279 no one's going to want to even put brain energy. 165 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:01.399 They're not going to want to put the calories into 166 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:06.399 thinking about creative endeavors. If all we have to do 167 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.480 is simply ask Ai to make something for us. 168 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.840 I think that we're going to see the pendulum swing here. 169 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.600 You and I were talking off the air. I was 170 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:20.799 lamenting about the decline of production in radio. It could 171 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.919 be podcasts, it could be radio news, what have you. 172 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.200 When I started, there were a lot of reporters and 173 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.360 anchors that were obsessed and it was so much fun 174 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.919 to listen to when it came to production elements, whether 175 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.799 it was just an ear of sound, of taking ambient 176 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:41.480 sound that runs under a sound bite and carrying it 177 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:44.399 through your entire piece as a reporter or an anchor 178 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:45.039 or what have you. 179 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:47.360 There was so much more of that. 180 00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:50.240 It felt like we were constantly trying to one up 181 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.840 each other when it came to making a pleasing sound 182 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.320 for the ear, something coming out of the radio, something 183 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:01.159 that made you go huh, you know, or or just wow, 184 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.840 that's a really clear sound, or really good sound, or 185 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.879 really well put together things like that. And now we're 186 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.759 kind of in this era of just kind of bare bones. 187 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:13.679 When you listen to even at the onset of podcasts, 188 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.559 and a couple of them come to mind, the podcast 189 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:21.399 of the man who made all those clocks in the 190 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.279 South or whatever. You know, there's just certain things where 191 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.759 the when the production is good, it just sings, It 192 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.279 just stands out. And now we're kind of in this 193 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:33.600 like bare bones production land. It seems like a lot 194 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:35.759 that I do as town. 195 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:36.120 Yeah. 196 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:38.279 When I listened to radio, I'm just kind of like, 197 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:43.039 where where's all the fun production or not even fun, 198 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.759 just any production whatsoever. And I think that that's just 199 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.720 the pendulum swinging, and I think it'll swing back when 200 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.600 it comes to It's like fashion, you know, we go 201 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.320 from minimalists to super creative and super colorful and then 202 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:59.240 back to grays and mobs and you know, and I 203 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:01.960 think that right now with culture, we're just in this 204 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:06.360 weird phase where you feel like everything's been done and so, 205 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:08.720 you know, here's a meme. 206 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:12.799 For you, here's a meme. Here's a TikTok from my 207 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.720 eighty three right, I mean the Kate Bush song that 208 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:19.000 came back and charted again thirty seven years after it 209 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.000 charted the first time. Yeah, because it was on a 210 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:27.360 TV show which also was a, I guess an honorific 211 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.360 to the old eighties, you know, movies that we saw 212 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:37.240 and stranger things. So up next, the best questions for 213 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:38.519 your first date. 214 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:42.799 I'm still feeling what the kids call anxiety over Heather 215 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.799 Brooker's question on the first date? Who do you respect 216 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.039 the most? And why that was a loaded question? 217 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.639 Would you have just gotten up from the table and left? 218 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:54.320 I don't know. I mean, my goodness, it's a lot. 219 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:55.000 That's a lot. 220 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:58.679 I hope you're enjoying this special Memorial Day weekend recap 221 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:00.519 some of our best stuff that we've done over the 222 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:01.480 last couple of weeks. 223 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:06.200 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 224 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:07.320 AM six forty. 225 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.519 We went through and found some of our recent segments 226 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:13.279 that we thought you might want to redo you revisit 227 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.600 in your own head, so enjoy this one. 228 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:17.559 This is some good news. I think it's good news. 229 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:22.159 Finally we're getting our things done correctly when it turned 230 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:28.000 when it comes to valuing skilled positions. Elijah Rios is 231 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.600 the kid they profile in the Wall Street Journal. Now, 232 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.399 Elijah won't graduate from high school until next year, but 233 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.120 he already has a job offer that pays nearly seventy 234 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:40.639 grand a year. Elijah is not a five star baseball 235 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:45.840 player or basketball or football. No, he's taking welding classes 236 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.399 at his high school in Philadelphia. And this high school 237 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.639 works closely with companies looking for workers in the skilled trades. 238 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.200 Employers are dealing with such a shortage of these workers 239 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.279 that they're courting high school students. As the boomers are 240 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:07.720 retiring in these skilled positions, these companies are saying, crap. 241 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:11.720 All we have to look at are these millennials who 242 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.279 made not involving a penis. 243 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:18.120 It's funny with that's the first place you went, I said, 244 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:20.799 left handed medieval puppetry. 245 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.000 Right, There was this whole push when you and I 246 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.559 were in school, go to college, Go to college, go 247 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.000 to college, major in something that you're interested in. And 248 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:32.440 there was all these people that decided to major in 249 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:33.559 puppetry of the. 250 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.519 What left handed medieval puppetry. 251 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:41.480 Yes, that graduated, and they have these beautiful degrees that 252 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.039 are framed and rich mahogany, but no freaking talent or 253 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:51.360 skill that's usable in everyday life. And now those skilled 254 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.879 jobs are empty and they're emptying out with people retiring. 255 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.720 Before the push to become a puppet master. And so 256 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:01.960 now you've got the these companies going to high schools 257 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.639 that still have shop classes, and so many of them 258 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.080 don't because of the emphasis on the puppetry. 259 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:10.919 Letty, you know what. 260 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.799 I mean, the liberal arts things, and all the push 261 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.799 to to go to higher education when who's gonna make 262 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:17.320 the s. 263 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.960 There was, like you said, there was that emphasis on 264 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:23.840 go to college. You'll figure it out, go to college, 265 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.080 it will come to you, or however you wanted to 266 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:27.919 put it. But you really couldn't do anything without a 267 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:32.480 four year degree, which as we know, we've learned complete 268 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:37.120 bs right or BA. But the whole point of of it, 269 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.559 I mean, I'm not saying college is bad, because in fact, 270 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:46.240 it does continue those lessons that you're supposed to learn 271 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.960 in high school, which is how to study, how to 272 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.840 manage time, how to do what is required of you, 273 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.639 how to answer to to specifications. 274 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.840 But some people aren't built that way. 275 00:14:57.159 --> 00:14:59.039 And if you're built the way that you work with 276 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.519 your hands and that is your jam, you need shop 277 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:06.639 class and you need somebody to tell you, hey, there's 278 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.200 jobs for you. These people, I mean, it's employers that 279 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.639 range from the local transit system to submarine manufacturers that 280 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:18.440 are making regular visits to this high school in Philly, 281 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:24.120 specifically the welding classrooms, bringing branded swag and pitching students 282 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.080 on their specific workplaces. 283 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:29.639 Yeah, Father Judge is a Catholic high school there in Philly, 284 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:34.200 and it has brought back and put an emphasis on 285 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:40.919 those trade classes, trades, and in other places we're seeing 286 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.519 it as well, plumbing, electrical work, welding, even wood shop 287 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.799 that they have come back in a big way because 288 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.679 there has been such a loss of those Now on 289 00:15:51.759 --> 00:15:54.919 this show, we've talked with Mike row Dirty Jobs Micro 290 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.840 We've talked to him a couple of times, and this 291 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:05.679 is one of his big emphasis is getting people out 292 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.720 of the rut of a place they don't want to 293 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:12.080 be in college, a career field, they don't want to 294 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.759 be left handed medieval puppetry, and get them onto a 295 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:20.639 path that is fulfilling in terms of work and financially 296 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:24.159 secure in terms of the rest of their lives. A 297 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:27.639 lot of these people listen. When you start radio may 298 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.759 not be the greatest example, but it is an example. 299 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:32.120 When you start in radio, you work all the time, 300 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.720 you have to, you have to volunteer, do everything. You 301 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.960 volunteer to work on the weekends. You volunteer to work overnights, 302 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:42.080 You volunteer to empty the trash cans on tuesdays, you 303 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.240 volunteer to work on holidays. That's the only way you're 304 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.639 going to get any sort of money to pay the rent. 305 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.759 Not get ahead, not be famous. It's the way you 306 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:55.320 get money to pay the rent. In some of these 307 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.600 right out of high school careers, they're talking about eighty 308 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:06.839 thousand dollars a year base pay, plus great overtime, plus 309 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:12.480 great benefits, plus great vacation packages. I mean, and I 310 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:16.119 don't ever remember that, even being I didn't know that 311 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:19.279 I had benefits until I was probably thirty four years old. 312 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:25.279 Yeah, my brother was always into mechanics, and my dad. 313 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:26.559 Was always like, you got to go to college. You 314 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:27.440 got to go to college. 315 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.839 And my brother, he's a plumber, has his own business, 316 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:35.079 employees a whole bit doing great. But he he landed 317 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.640 there after a series of different things he did with 318 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.480 his hands. But I remember at one point my parents 319 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:44.680 said something like electricians get into this field. You can 320 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:47.799 become an apprentice, you can become an electrician. It's real 321 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.960 money and benefits, and it's like those same things that 322 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:55.680 are important to people down the line, are still not 323 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:58.960 important to a twenty six year old or whatever he 324 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.359 was at the time. He's not thinking about what he's 325 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.559 thinking about, what does what do I want to do 326 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.400 with my hands? You know, what kind of labor do 327 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.400 I want to do? Still wasn't thinking like labor or 328 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.480 benefits and you know, salaried positions and things like that. 329 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.960 So it's kind of hard when you when you're talking 330 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.519 to kids that that are into the shop thing to 331 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:31.160 kind of woo them with like a concrete plan or 332 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.799 like a stability, to woo them with stability. 333 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:35.440 That's not what they're into. 334 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.039 So it's kind of a I would imagine it's kind 335 00:18:38.039 --> 00:18:40.599 of a delicate dance going into those shop classes. You 336 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.440 have to kind of recruit them because to a kid 337 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.839 like that, the idea of stability, that's not what they're 338 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.559 looking for. They want to they want to be creative. 339 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:50.680 Venture all of that. 340 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:51.200 Yeah. 341 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:53.759 The other thing is if you found a place, speaking 342 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.960 of benefits, if you found a place that was gonna 343 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.880 put money in your four oh one K when you're 344 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.920 eighteen years old, I still that's a ten year hit 345 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.640 start on most people, right, I Mean, that's that idea 346 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:07.960 alone is again not necessarily sellable to an eighteen year old. Hey, 347 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:09.759 we're going to take part of your paycheck and stalk 348 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.680 it away so you can't touch it for a long time. 349 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:15.000 But you tell them then there'll be a millionaire by 350 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:19.039 the time they want to retire. I mean some of 351 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:20.000 that that I just. 352 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.880 Learned about our pension from handle like three weeks ago. 353 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.519 Well, you have to pay your union dues before I did. 354 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:32.079 I did that last year first time. I'm all good. 355 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.799 As an example, one of the seniors at that at 356 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:41.000 that Catholic high school in rules, I just don't want 357 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:42.400 you to be an old maid. 358 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:45.480 You just don't want to be living in the other room. 359 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.079 I know what you're saying. Aiden is a senior at 360 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:53.599 Father Judge High School. He was recruited as a high 361 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:57.480 school welder. He was a senior and was offered a 362 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:01.680 seventy five thousand dollars a year job before he. 363 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.119 Graduated high school. Yeah, he's going to be working at 364 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.160 a submarine well as a submarine welder at a defense 365 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:10.200 contractor in New Jersey. That's a good job. 366 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.519 But you know that there are some of these kids 367 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.119 that are like, eh. 368 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.759 You know, well they also want the party aspect of college. 369 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:20.200 There's there's that, there's the slice of the pie that 370 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.519 is only wants to go to college for that they 371 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:23.240 don't care about. 372 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:23.720 No, I don't. 373 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:26.599 I'm talking about the shop kids even like shop kids. Yeah, 374 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:28.240 I'm saying, somebody coming in and be like, we'll pay 375 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:30.680 you seventy thousand dollars a year, just like so I 376 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:32.720 gotta be there nine to five, five days. 377 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:33.559 I don't know. 378 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:36.319 How do I play my games? How do I. 379 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:40.240 Play my games? People's minds work differently. 380 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.079 Yeah they do. Yeah, you're right. That was some of 381 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:43.680 the best stuff we've done recently. 382 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.240 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 383 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:49.319 AM six forty. 384 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.000 I have a great Memorial Day. We'll of course be 385 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:54.519 back at work tomorrow. But it's one of the segments 386 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:57.920 we did recently that we thought, you know, came in 387 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.680 near the top of the list when it came to segments. 388 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:01.400 So have fun. 389 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:02.440 Hey, Garrian Shannon. 390 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:05.119 Hey, I am a millennial. 391 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:09.279 Thirty one years old, graduated high school in twenty twelve. 392 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.559 I had no interest in going to college. 393 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.599 I stood on a piece of heavy equipment on the 394 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:18.319 side of. 395 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.279 I five in Santa Clarita again, about one hundred and 396 00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:22.240 twenty thousand dollars. 397 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:25.440 A year without overtime. Nice, I make more than a 398 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:27.920 teachers who told me I wasn't going to make any 399 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.039 money in my life. 400 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:29.319 Ever. 401 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.960