Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2: Have a great Memorial Day. We'll of course be back
Speaker 2: at work tomorrow. But it's one of the segments we
Speaker 2: did recently that we thought, you know, came in near
Speaker 2: the top of the list when it came to good segments.
Speaker 2: So have fun landlines are coming back because we need
Speaker 2: to teach kids how to use the telephone. Telephone, telephone.
Speaker 1: Why is it that they need a physical phone to
Speaker 1: learn etiquette with.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because we're big dumb animals and there
Speaker 2: are weird triggers like that, or it's the people who
Speaker 2: are teaching telephone etiquette feel like that was the last
Speaker 2: time we had good telephone etiquette. So maybe that's why.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why. Maybe it's like teaching somebody to drive,
Speaker 2: but doing it on a stick shift as opposed to
Speaker 2: an automatic transmission.
Speaker 3: It's funny.
Speaker 1: Older people are delightful on the telephone, aren't they. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they really are, more so I think than even in person.
Speaker 1: People that are of an older generation are delightful on
Speaker 1: the phone.
Speaker 2: How old would you say?
Speaker 1: I would say, seventies, sixties, seventies, there's like a there's
Speaker 1: different bar for behavior.
Speaker 3: You're awful on the telephone.
Speaker 2: I know, because there's two Okay, what do you that's
Speaker 2: not fair.
Speaker 1: First of all, I have no idea because I don't
Speaker 1: spend much time on the phone since there was something
Speaker 1: going on over there. So I decided to throw this
Speaker 1: little bait in the water.
Speaker 2: If you text me on a Sunday morning, and then
Speaker 2: if you were to have called me, there's two reasons
Speaker 2: why you would call me. Yeah, something awful. That's why
Speaker 2: I just text you. I know that's something awful has happened, or.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be to work.
Speaker 2: Yes, And because something is awful, that's happened, So that's
Speaker 2: going to be an odd and that's going to be
Speaker 2: an awful phone call. Most of I shouldn't even say
Speaker 2: most of the time, yes, a lot of the times.
Speaker 2: That's my case from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you pick up the phone for me,
Speaker 1: it's most likely what I hear is this Yes, what
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's because something has happened. When you called me
Speaker 2: last week, the last time you called me is because
Speaker 2: you started a fire right and I didn't even answer
Speaker 2: the phone, which would have been bad, I assumed had
Speaker 2: you started an actual fire.
Speaker 1: That was the only reason I called you when I
Speaker 1: started the fire in the home was because you had
Speaker 1: talked earlier in the day about how I was kind
Speaker 1: of in a mood where I was going to set
Speaker 1: something on fire, or are you going to set the
Speaker 1: building on fire? Or you had made some mention about fire,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're crazy, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I'm fine?
Speaker 1: And then I went home and promptly started a fire, right,
Speaker 1: So I wanted you to have the payoff of your premonition.
Speaker 2: There is a there's an article in The Atlantic magazine
Speaker 2: about the end of American pop culture, and there's an
Speaker 2: interesting way to look at this argument that we are
Speaker 2: right now in one of the worst eras when it
Speaker 2: comes to pop American specific American pop culture.
Speaker 3: Well, you think about pop.
Speaker 1: Culture, what do you think about You think about music, trends, fashion, right,
Speaker 1: my movies, movies, things like that. A lot of it
Speaker 1: is meme culture, a lot of it's TikTok culture.
Speaker 3: Right, It's just changed, it's changed from what we remember.
Speaker 2: But is it good? Can we can? Can you put
Speaker 2: a value like that That's what I mean. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: like to think about when we have celebrated eighties and
Speaker 2: nineties entertainment movies, TV shows and things like that, there
Speaker 2: were there was a very different attitude towards those things
Speaker 2: because they was a built in waiting period, whether it
Speaker 2: was a TV show like you said, last week, we
Speaker 2: talked about did you see what happened on Seinfeld last night?
Speaker 2: That was the discussion every Friday at school or at
Speaker 2: college or at work, what did you watch Seinfeld last night?
Speaker 2: Of course I watched Seinfeld last night. Of course it
Speaker 2: was hilarious. But now it's have you seen this entire
Speaker 2: season of did you.
Speaker 1: Sit on your couch for nine hours? Like I did
Speaker 1: on Sunday?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man plays into so many different ills of society, doesn't
Speaker 1: it well?
Speaker 2: And I think that there was a we had a
Speaker 2: different attitude back then. If you had, it was the
Speaker 2: delayed gratification of whatever. The album didn't come out until June.
Speaker 2: You knew when it was coming out. They didn't preview
Speaker 2: it with singles at least that were available to you.
Speaker 2: You could hear it on the radio, but you couldn't
Speaker 2: go out and buy that single necessarily before the big
Speaker 2: album came out whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: The anticipation is a fantastic feeling, look no further than
Speaker 1: Carly Simon. But anticipation is something nobody feels anymore because
Speaker 1: we're instantly gratified with everything right, there is no anticipation.
Speaker 1: The only anticipation that remains really is maybe waiting to
Speaker 1: go on a trip if that's your thing.
Speaker 3: If you're into.
Speaker 2: Travel, sure, the countdown to your vacation.
Speaker 1: Everything else is just it's right here, you want it now,
Speaker 1: you got it, your tomorrow.
Speaker 2: They also describe the explosion of creativity and creative expression
Speaker 2: in the United States right now. More than five hundred
Speaker 2: scripted TV shows get made every single year, and get this,
Speaker 2: streaming services add about one hundred thousand songs every single Well.
Speaker 1: What does that mean for the quality? Right, Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it when we come back.
Speaker 2: And with that, we'll wrap up that segment.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: Special Memorial Day edition of the show. Today. I'm not here,
Speaker 2: Shannon's not here. We'll both be back tomorrow. I give
Speaker 2: you all the updated news about what's going on. So
Speaker 2: this is one of our best of segments. Enjoy. We
Speaker 2: were talking about this article from Spencer Cornhabra the worst
Speaker 2: ever era of American pop culture and just in terms
Speaker 2: of are we you know, movies all sound the same,
Speaker 2: TV shows all sound the same. Art is the same
Speaker 2: as it used to be, and a lot of times
Speaker 2: the people that produce that kind of entertainment for us
Speaker 2: are relying on the old things to bring us back.
Speaker 2: I mean, they just re released was it Phantom Menace,
Speaker 2: one of the Star Wars movies, and it made millions
Speaker 2: of dollars at the box office. Everybody's seen that. We've
Speaker 2: all seen it. We've all seen it, and we still
Speaker 2: will pay money for the things that we've seen before.
Speaker 2: They also I had mentioned that there's about one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand songs reportedly every day added to streaming services, and
Speaker 2: I found this interesting. In twenty twenty four, new releases
Speaker 2: accounted for a little more than a quarter of all
Speaker 2: of the albums consumed in the United States, just a quarter.
Speaker 2: That every year, a greater and greater percentage of the
Speaker 2: albums that are streamed online would be considered catalog music
Speaker 2: means at least eighteen months old.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: In three twelve CE, the Roman Senate ordered the construction
Speaker 1: of a monument called the Arch of Constantine. It incorporated
Speaker 1: pieces from older monuments built in more glorious times for
Speaker 1: the empire, which had begun its centuary a century's long decline.
Speaker 1: This is a metaphor for modern culture. The arch is
Speaker 1: the TV and film industry, enamored of reboots, spin offs,
Speaker 1: the formulaic genre.
Speaker 3: Fair like you were talking about.
Speaker 2: I love this one line where he talks about Broadway
Speaker 2: theaters subsist on stunt cast revivals of old war horses.
Speaker 2: One of those that's going on right now is Glengarry
Speaker 2: Glenn Ross, with a cast that includes stand up comedians
Speaker 2: at Academy Award winning actors. It's not just a bunch
Speaker 2: of up and coming actors that you used to see
Speaker 2: on Broadway. These are people that are kind of crossing
Speaker 2: genres their word stunt cast in these shows. Does this
Speaker 2: mean that we're declining? Does it mean we hit a
Speaker 2: slow spot when it comes to innovation?
Speaker 1: Sure, we are at the end of creativity. Have we
Speaker 1: done all of the things?
Speaker 2: If it's possible, and if artificial intelligence continues to progress
Speaker 2: at the level that it does, we're really screwed because
Speaker 2: no one's going to want to even put brain energy.
Speaker 2: They're not going to want to put the calories into
Speaker 2: thinking about creative endeavors. If all we have to do
Speaker 2: is simply ask Ai to make something for us.
Speaker 1: I think that we're going to see the pendulum swing here.
Speaker 1: You and I were talking off the air. I was
Speaker 1: lamenting about the decline of production in radio. It could
Speaker 1: be podcasts, it could be radio news, what have you.
Speaker 1: When I started, there were a lot of reporters and
Speaker 1: anchors that were obsessed and it was so much fun
Speaker 1: to listen to when it came to production elements, whether
Speaker 1: it was just an ear of sound, of taking ambient
Speaker 1: sound that runs under a sound bite and carrying it
Speaker 1: through your entire piece as a reporter or an anchor
Speaker 1: or what have you.
Speaker 3: There was so much more of that.
Speaker 1: It felt like we were constantly trying to one up
Speaker 1: each other when it came to making a pleasing sound
Speaker 1: for the ear, something coming out of the radio, something
Speaker 1: that made you go huh, you know, or or just wow,
Speaker 1: that's a really clear sound, or really good sound, or
Speaker 1: really well put together things like that. And now we're
Speaker 1: kind of in this era of just kind of bare bones.
Speaker 1: When you listen to even at the onset of podcasts,
Speaker 1: and a couple of them come to mind, the podcast
Speaker 1: of the man who made all those clocks in the
Speaker 1: South or whatever. You know, there's just certain things where
Speaker 1: the when the production is good, it just sings, It
Speaker 1: just stands out. And now we're kind of in this
Speaker 1: like bare bones production land. It seems like a lot
Speaker 1: that I do as town.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I listened to radio, I'm just kind of like,
Speaker 1: where where's all the fun production or not even fun,
Speaker 1: just any production whatsoever. And I think that that's just
Speaker 1: the pendulum swinging, and I think it'll swing back when
Speaker 1: it comes to It's like fashion, you know, we go
Speaker 1: from minimalists to super creative and super colorful and then
Speaker 1: back to grays and mobs and you know, and I
Speaker 1: think that right now with culture, we're just in this
Speaker 1: weird phase where you feel like everything's been done and so,
Speaker 1: you know, here's a meme.
Speaker 2: For you, here's a meme. Here's a TikTok from my
Speaker 2: eighty three right, I mean the Kate Bush song that
Speaker 2: came back and charted again thirty seven years after it
Speaker 2: charted the first time. Yeah, because it was on a
Speaker 2: TV show which also was a, I guess an honorific
Speaker 2: to the old eighties, you know, movies that we saw
Speaker 2: and stranger things. So up next, the best questions for
Speaker 2: your first date.
Speaker 1: I'm still feeling what the kids call anxiety over Heather
Speaker 1: Brooker's question on the first date? Who do you respect
Speaker 1: the most? And why that was a loaded question?
Speaker 2: Would you have just gotten up from the table and left?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, my goodness, it's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's a lot.
Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying this special Memorial Day weekend recap
Speaker 2: some of our best stuff that we've done over the
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: We went through and found some of our recent segments
Speaker 2: that we thought you might want to redo you revisit
Speaker 2: in your own head, so enjoy this one.
Speaker 3: This is some good news. I think it's good news.
Speaker 1: Finally we're getting our things done correctly when it turned
Speaker 1: when it comes to valuing skilled positions. Elijah Rios is
Speaker 1: the kid they profile in the Wall Street Journal. Now,
Speaker 1: Elijah won't graduate from high school until next year, but
Speaker 1: he already has a job offer that pays nearly seventy
Speaker 1: grand a year. Elijah is not a five star baseball
Speaker 1: player or basketball or football. No, he's taking welding classes
Speaker 1: at his high school in Philadelphia. And this high school
Speaker 1: works closely with companies looking for workers in the skilled trades.
Speaker 1: Employers are dealing with such a shortage of these workers
Speaker 1: that they're courting high school students. As the boomers are
Speaker 1: retiring in these skilled positions, these companies are saying, crap.
Speaker 1: All we have to look at are these millennials who
Speaker 1: made not involving a penis.
Speaker 2: It's funny with that's the first place you went, I said,
Speaker 2: left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1: Right, There was this whole push when you and I
Speaker 1: were in school, go to college, Go to college, go
Speaker 1: to college, major in something that you're interested in. And
Speaker 1: there was all these people that decided to major in
Speaker 1: puppetry of the.
Speaker 2: What left handed medieval puppetry.
Speaker 1: Yes, that graduated, and they have these beautiful degrees that
Speaker 1: are framed and rich mahogany, but no freaking talent or
Speaker 1: skill that's usable in everyday life. And now those skilled
Speaker 1: jobs are empty and they're emptying out with people retiring.
Speaker 1: Before the push to become a puppet master. And so
Speaker 1: now you've got the these companies going to high schools
Speaker 1: that still have shop classes, and so many of them
Speaker 1: don't because of the emphasis on the puppetry.
Speaker 2: Letty, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, the liberal arts things, and all the push
Speaker 1: to to go to higher education when who's gonna make
Speaker 1: the s.
Speaker 2: There was, like you said, there was that emphasis on
Speaker 2: go to college. You'll figure it out, go to college,
Speaker 2: it will come to you, or however you wanted to
Speaker 2: put it. But you really couldn't do anything without a
Speaker 2: four year degree, which as we know, we've learned complete
Speaker 2: bs right or BA. But the whole point of of it,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying college is bad, because in fact,
Speaker 2: it does continue those lessons that you're supposed to learn
Speaker 2: in high school, which is how to study, how to
Speaker 2: manage time, how to do what is required of you,
Speaker 2: how to answer to to specifications.
Speaker 3: But some people aren't built that way.
Speaker 1: And if you're built the way that you work with
Speaker 1: your hands and that is your jam, you need shop
Speaker 1: class and you need somebody to tell you, hey, there's
Speaker 1: jobs for you. These people, I mean, it's employers that
Speaker 1: range from the local transit system to submarine manufacturers that
Speaker 1: are making regular visits to this high school in Philly,
Speaker 1: specifically the welding classrooms, bringing branded swag and pitching students
Speaker 1: on their specific workplaces.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Father Judge is a Catholic high school there in Philly,
Speaker 2: and it has brought back and put an emphasis on
Speaker 2: those trade classes, trades, and in other places we're seeing
Speaker 2: it as well, plumbing, electrical work, welding, even wood shop
Speaker 2: that they have come back in a big way because
Speaker 2: there has been such a loss of those Now on
Speaker 2: this show, we've talked with Mike row Dirty Jobs Micro
Speaker 2: We've talked to him a couple of times, and this
Speaker 2: is one of his big emphasis is getting people out
Speaker 2: of the rut of a place they don't want to
Speaker 2: be in college, a career field, they don't want to
Speaker 2: be left handed medieval puppetry, and get them onto a
Speaker 2: path that is fulfilling in terms of work and financially
Speaker 2: secure in terms of the rest of their lives. A
Speaker 2: lot of these people listen. When you start radio may
Speaker 2: not be the greatest example, but it is an example.
Speaker 2: When you start in radio, you work all the time,
Speaker 2: you have to, you have to volunteer, do everything. You
Speaker 2: volunteer to work on the weekends. You volunteer to work overnights,
Speaker 2: You volunteer to empty the trash cans on tuesdays, you
Speaker 2: volunteer to work on holidays. That's the only way you're
Speaker 2: going to get any sort of money to pay the rent.
Speaker 2: Not get ahead, not be famous. It's the way you
Speaker 2: get money to pay the rent. In some of these
Speaker 2: right out of high school careers, they're talking about eighty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year base pay, plus great overtime, plus
Speaker 2: great benefits, plus great vacation packages. I mean, and I
Speaker 2: don't ever remember that, even being I didn't know that
Speaker 2: I had benefits until I was probably thirty four years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother was always into mechanics, and my dad.
Speaker 3: Was always like, you got to go to college. You
Speaker 3: got to go to college.
Speaker 1: And my brother, he's a plumber, has his own business,
Speaker 1: employees a whole bit doing great. But he he landed
Speaker 1: there after a series of different things he did with
Speaker 1: his hands. But I remember at one point my parents
Speaker 1: said something like electricians get into this field. You can
Speaker 1: become an apprentice, you can become an electrician. It's real
Speaker 1: money and benefits, and it's like those same things that
Speaker 1: are important to people down the line, are still not
Speaker 1: important to a twenty six year old or whatever he
Speaker 1: was at the time. He's not thinking about what he's
Speaker 1: thinking about, what does what do I want to do
Speaker 1: with my hands? You know, what kind of labor do
Speaker 1: I want to do? Still wasn't thinking like labor or
Speaker 1: benefits and you know, salaried positions and things like that.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of hard when you when you're talking
Speaker 1: to kids that that are into the shop thing to
Speaker 1: kind of woo them with like a concrete plan or
Speaker 1: like a stability, to woo them with stability.
Speaker 3: That's not what they're into.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a I would imagine it's kind
Speaker 1: of a delicate dance going into those shop classes. You
Speaker 1: have to kind of recruit them because to a kid
Speaker 1: like that, the idea of stability, that's not what they're
Speaker 1: looking for. They want to they want to be creative.
Speaker 2: Venture all of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing is if you found a place, speaking
Speaker 2: of benefits, if you found a place that was gonna
Speaker 2: put money in your four oh one K when you're
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, I still that's a ten year hit
Speaker 2: start on most people, right, I Mean, that's that idea
Speaker 2: alone is again not necessarily sellable to an eighteen year old. Hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to take part of your paycheck and stalk
Speaker 2: it away so you can't touch it for a long time.
Speaker 2: But you tell them then there'll be a millionaire by
Speaker 2: the time they want to retire. I mean some of
Speaker 2: that that I just.
Speaker 1: Learned about our pension from handle like three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to pay your union dues before I did.
Speaker 3: I did that last year first time. I'm all good.
Speaker 2: As an example, one of the seniors at that at
Speaker 2: that Catholic high school in rules, I just don't want
Speaker 2: you to be an old maid.
Speaker 1: You just don't want to be living in the other room.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Aiden is a senior at
Speaker 1: Father Judge High School. He was recruited as a high
Speaker 1: school welder. He was a senior and was offered a
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars a year job before he.
Speaker 2: Graduated high school. Yeah, he's going to be working at
Speaker 2: a submarine well as a submarine welder at a defense
Speaker 2: contractor in New Jersey. That's a good job.
Speaker 1: But you know that there are some of these kids
Speaker 1: that are like, eh.
Speaker 2: You know, well they also want the party aspect of college.
Speaker 2: There's there's that, there's the slice of the pie that
Speaker 2: is only wants to go to college for that they
Speaker 2: don't care about.
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the shop kids even like shop kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, somebody coming in and be like, we'll pay
Speaker 1: you seventy thousand dollars a year, just like so I
Speaker 1: gotta be there nine to five, five days.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: How do I play my games? How do I.
Speaker 3: Play my games? People's minds work differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah they do. Yeah, you're right. That was some of
Speaker 2: the best stuff we've done recently.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: I have a great Memorial Day. We'll of course be
Speaker 2: back at work tomorrow. But it's one of the segments
Speaker 2: we did recently that we thought, you know, came in
Speaker 2: near the top of the list when it came to segments.
Speaker 2: So have fun.
Speaker 5: Hey, Garrian Shannon.
Speaker 6: Hey, I am a millennial.
Speaker 2: Thirty one years old, graduated high school in twenty twelve.
Speaker 5: I had no interest in going to college.
Speaker 7: I stood on a piece of heavy equipment on the
Speaker 7: side of.
Speaker 4: I five in Santa Clarita again, about one hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: A year without overtime. Nice, I make more than a
Speaker 2: teachers who told me I wasn't going to make any
Speaker 2: money in my life.
Speaker 7: Ever.
Speaker 2: That's I'll hog as I go by today. By the way,
Speaker 2: see you on the side of the freeway.
Speaker 1: I took one of those tests in high school at
Speaker 1: the office with all the pamphlets of colleges and things,
Speaker 1: your counselor's office, I guess. I don't remember there being
Speaker 1: a counselor there. Maybe there was, but I do remember
Speaker 1: taking some sort of test that.
Speaker 2: Was gonna remember anybody else in the room, I don't.
Speaker 1: It was just like a multiple choice test or something,
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to give you three different jobs
Speaker 1: that you would be good at.
Speaker 3: And I only remember one of the three, and one.
Speaker 1: Of them, that one, the one that I remember, and
Speaker 1: it was number two on the list, was bus driver.
Speaker 1: I don't remember the questions of the test. I certainly
Speaker 1: don't remember a driving test that wasn't included.
Speaker 6: But bus drivers driver, Okay, So maybe because I like
Speaker 6: to talk or talk to people or so, maybe that
Speaker 6: was a question do you like I don't know.
Speaker 2: Your service oriented.
Speaker 3: I did not write yes to.
Speaker 5: That, Gary Shannon. This is Larry from Beverly Hills. I
Speaker 5: teach a ten week course several times a year at
Speaker 5: Santa Ana College in Santa Ana, California that helped people
Speaker 5: get into the construction workers' unions through what is called
Speaker 5: the MC three pre Apprenticeship Program. It is completely free
Speaker 5: course and I've placed three students in the last eight
Speaker 5: weeks wow, from my classes already, so it's a wonderful
Speaker 5: thing to do. They can make up to.
Speaker 2: Up to Oh, oh, you're leaving me hanging, buddy, that's
Speaker 2: too bad. Diane also called in Diane apparently has a
Speaker 2: friend that did this path.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 7: I had a dear friend back in Massachusetts who owned
Speaker 7: his own metalworking company for many years and then he
Speaker 7: taught metalworking. He retired down to Florida and he was
Speaker 7: hired by NASA to work on the space shuttles because
Speaker 7: of his metalworking. Absolutely fantastic man, in a great job.
Speaker 2: He just loved it.
Speaker 7: Have a great day.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what I'm here for.
Speaker 2: I've also said that there there is a there's a
Speaker 2: definite value to having created or fixed something by yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. But the pride that you would I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it because I don't know what
Speaker 1: that feels like. But I would feel like that would
Speaker 1: be immense pride. I mean I feel that way if
Speaker 1: I successfully put together a piece of furn which is
Speaker 1: a real crapshoot, if I successfully complete that project, but
Speaker 1: one I have successfully put together a piece of furniture.
Speaker 2: When you use all of the screws and fasteners and
Speaker 2: there's none left over.
Speaker 1: Well, they do give you extras, don't they. Sometimes Sometimes
Speaker 1: the way I build it, you don't need.
Speaker 2: It at all. So you're you're improving on the design.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're doing? It's lighter this way, there's
Speaker 2: not as many nuts and bolts. Look at that. Another
Speaker 2: hour in the books. We'll come back with more of
Speaker 2: the best of The Gary and Shannon Show right after this.
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