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<v Speaker 1>Who know not a darn thing other than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>singing and dancing on stage Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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<v Speaker 1>Today at noon on fifty five KRC the Talk Station

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<v Speaker 1>to shiveto six year fifty five carse the Talk Station.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday, of course, Jode Jennita Paulton at the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour. In the meantime, I am so pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome with a fifty five KRC Morning Show state

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Jennifer Gross to talk about the battle for Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>House Speaker as well as a big rally it's going

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<v Speaker 1>on today and Columbus. Jennifer Gross, Welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five CARSCIT Morning Show. Its You're a pleasure to have

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<v Speaker 1>you on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, I always appreciating with you. Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's always my pleasure to have you on. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I regularly refer to the state of Columbus in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of politics since Republicans dominate everything, it's like hurting cats.

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<v Speaker 1>You just kind of wonder, why do we have any

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<v Speaker 1>wrinkles in anything in Columbus. If we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>something sort of along the lines of you know, traditional

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<v Speaker 1>Republican policy in place, you think it'd be just a

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer, put a bill up and voted, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on. But it's never the case, and this topic

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<v Speaker 1>right here House Speaker takes us back to the blue

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and of course the Conservatives wanted Derek Maren

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<v Speaker 1>and interestingly enough, for whatever reasons, backroom deal was dealt.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty two, Republicans joined along with the Democrats to

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<v Speaker 1>elect House Speaker Jason Stevens Well. He says, he announced

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<v Speaker 1>Monday he is not seeking reelection, leaving the post wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who's planning on running for this spot?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it going to be a contested race? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to see this play out again along the lines

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw before.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Gross Well, I can promise you that when we

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<v Speaker 2>are done with our vote today, which is at five pm,

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<v Speaker 2>that we will walk out unified. And one body, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's now great, we do. But Brian, I would tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that, yes, there is another candidate who has stepped

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<v Speaker 2>into the race to His name is Tim Barhorst, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is a freshman right now, but he has experience

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<v Speaker 2>in healthcare. He's a solid conservative, obviously the new horse

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<v Speaker 2>in the race. But I think I remember as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no choice. Speaker Cup was the only choice,

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<v Speaker 2>and is that really a choice. Some of us thought

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<v Speaker 2>about just voting no just because we had no choice.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the fact that Tim is giving us a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I believe, honestly, Brian, that this is a great

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<v Speaker 2>example of a representative republic. This race isn't about postcards

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<v Speaker 2>that were mailed out where everybody's so excited the election

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<v Speaker 2>is over because there are no more phone calls and

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<v Speaker 2>texts and postcards. But this one is literally a vote

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<v Speaker 2>between your representative and who is going to lead the

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<v Speaker 2>people's House. And to me, competition makes us stronger. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm happy to see timbar Horse run and get

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<v Speaker 2>into the race. I again feel that competition makes us stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>And the best thing that Jason Stevens has done in

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<v Speaker 2>the last two years was his announcement on Monday. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really you know, I'm really proud. Well, I'm proud

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<v Speaker 2>that that that we have people that have courage to

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<v Speaker 2>step in and I think that the people of Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh I would hope that the people of Ohio would

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<v Speaker 2>see this as these people are fighting to lead and

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<v Speaker 2>to leave their house, that this house means so much

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<v Speaker 2>to the people of Ohio that these people are willing

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<v Speaker 2>to step in and both men have courage and honor,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do believe that no matter which one wins,

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<v Speaker 2>that we will we will unite, which is what I

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<v Speaker 2>want it all along, right two years ago when Derek won.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you so, Yeah. I think it's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 2>And competition makes us stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it also fosters and encourages debate and discussion over

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<v Speaker 1>the merits of each side. As a candidate, and you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Tim Barhurst as someone who will provide that springboard,

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<v Speaker 1>and he mentioned he's obviously a good guy. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other contenders is Matt Hoffman, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, correct, who's a very diplomatic man in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of I think nine children. So obviously he's great at

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<v Speaker 2>building teams and working with cats as you were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>and hurting cats and so, but also has many, many

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<v Speaker 2>years in Columbus, whereas Tim's the newcomer. Some people may

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<v Speaker 2>want someone who's very well connected in Columbus. Another person

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<v Speaker 2>may want more of that Trump candidate, shall we say,

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<v Speaker 2>or someone who is not as connected to the city

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<v Speaker 2>Center Square here in Columbus. I'm actually in Columbus right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I think it's great. Competition makes us stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>I truly believe that we are going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>unit and a unified body, and a look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>where we move into the next General Assembly. However, I

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<v Speaker 2>do hope, and I don't want to lead into your

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<v Speaker 2>next topic without your permission, but I do hope that

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<v Speaker 2>we get to take care of and work on the

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<v Speaker 2>property taxes, yes, keep, as well as possibly the income tax.

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<v Speaker 1>And you did anticipate where I wanted to go. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me just summarize what I think I'm hearing from you,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you are not endorsing either guy, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bar Horse or Huffman. What you're saying to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like we are going to be in good

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<v Speaker 1>hands regardless of who we come out with, and that

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans aren't going to be in this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>state of disarray that happened when Jason Stevens effectively couped

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Derek Marrin. But at least in that particular contest,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some pretty profound differences between maren and Stevens,

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<v Speaker 1>at least that I recall. I mean that is that

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<v Speaker 1>an accurate summary that I just gave there.

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<v Speaker 2>True, Okay, true, and I would I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>one is, in my opinion, of course, better than the

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<v Speaker 2>other for various reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I would encourage all people that are represented by a

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<v Speaker 2>Republican because this is a Republican vote tonight. It's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a gentleman vote. We do it. It's anonymous vote,

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<v Speaker 2>so no one knows how you vote. We vote behind

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<v Speaker 2>closed doors. But by participating in the process, you have

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<v Speaker 2>given your word that when the winner wins, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's thirty three to thirty two, because we have

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five Republicans voting, if everybody's in attendance, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three to thirty two, the one with thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>votes is the speaker. And that's what happened last time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Derek one by like two votes, and the other side

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<v Speaker 2>decided that that wasn't fair and then went and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two Republicans then bonded with thirty two Democrats and elected

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a speaker that was elected by the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Optics on that were just horrific, and they lived this

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<v Speaker 1>day all right. Moving along, you wanted to dive on

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<v Speaker 1>into it, and so do I homeowners rally and protests

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<v Speaker 1>taking place today in Columbus. This is a serious problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We hear about in Hamilton County all the time. When

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<v Speaker 1>the triennial or whatever assessment came out, some people's property

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<v Speaker 1>taxes went up by thirty percent. There are seniors out

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<v Speaker 1>there that could barely manage the situation under the earlier

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<v Speaker 1>property tax and now face of the bill they can't afford.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're talking about, you know, throwing money to help

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<v Speaker 1>people afford their taxes, which seems crazy. You got taxes

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<v Speaker 1>going into government and then government what giving people money

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<v Speaker 1>back to help pay the government. I mean, this circuitous

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<v Speaker 1>nonsense of effort to try to deal with the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is the taxes are too damn high.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we do about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Gross, Well, we have h Jr. Six Now, this

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<v Speaker 2>bill is written currently, should have been on the ballot

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<v Speaker 2>in November, but unfortunately our House has not. Sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting a call coming in probably about the Speaker's vote.

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<v Speaker 2>The dates on this bill should have been. It should

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<v Speaker 2>have This would go to the ballot for all Ohioans

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<v Speaker 2>to vote to put into the constitution that your property

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<v Speaker 2>taxes can never increase more than four percent from the

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<v Speaker 2>previous year. It's still an increase, but it is only

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<v Speaker 2>four percent. And like you said, many people had large,

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<v Speaker 2>large valuation increases that resulted in much larger tax increases.

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<v Speaker 2>This bill. The other interesting thing if people want to

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<v Speaker 2>read it and just look at the Ohio House and

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<v Speaker 2>pull it up HJR. Number six, line number fifty one,

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting because it says it will revert back to

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<v Speaker 2>your values in twenty twenty two. That's really brilliant because

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<v Speaker 2>it does awagh with two years of the inflationary prices

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<v Speaker 2>and recessionary type of our economy that's been under Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>so it resets a little bit. And this would have

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<v Speaker 2>taken effect January one, twenty twenty five, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>if it had gone. This is a ballot initiative, so

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<v Speaker 2>this there are two ways that people can get aboot initiative.

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<v Speaker 2>We as we know, we just had Issue one that

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<v Speaker 2>was defeated and that was a citizen led initiative. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a legislator led initiative, so we can put something

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<v Speaker 2>directly on the ballot saying hey, we want you to

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<v Speaker 2>vote on this and tell us what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that our tax commissioner. Property tax

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<v Speaker 2>commissioner is a non elected, elected bureaucrat. So as we

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<v Speaker 2>went for the people to her and said, hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this, she refused to change. And my county,

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<v Speaker 2>Butler County, was hard hit in many areas ross Westchester, Fairfield. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you were all hit, very very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well, it's interesting. It seems to me that

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<v Speaker 1>the value of a home in any given moment really

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<v Speaker 1>isn't reflective of the taxation that's levied on it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have X amount of dollars you need to fund

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that our real estate tax is paid for. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>one year the world goes upside down COVID nineteen. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>buying up real estate literally everywhere, driving the pies through

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<v Speaker 1>the roof. That didn't change the spending of government generally

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<v Speaker 1>that much. Doesn't this ultimately end up in a massive

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<v Speaker 1>windfall that shouldn't even have occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you would think so. But like my pretty tax,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent goes to the schools. So remember that

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<v Speaker 2>when and then the rest it's like local government and

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<v Speaker 2>all the levees we vote on. Every time we vote

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<v Speaker 2>on a levee, and we increase the levee, or we

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<v Speaker 2>have a new levee, we are increasing our property tax.

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<v Speaker 2>None of your local property tax comes to the state,

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<v Speaker 2>so it all stays locally, and all of your levees,

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<v Speaker 2>your schools, and your local government, whether it's a city

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<v Speaker 2>government or township. So it really depends. That's why who

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<v Speaker 2>you vote for for your mayor and for your township

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<v Speaker 2>trustees is so vitally important because they make decisions as

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, how they're going to spend your money

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<v Speaker 2>and those types and whether they request a levee. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>they are the ones who have to, you know, put

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<v Speaker 2>that on there. So it's really the levee system is

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating to me because I've lived in states I was military,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've lived in states with no levee system. But

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<v Speaker 2>it is in It is ingrained in our constitution. It

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<v Speaker 2>has been in our state for you know, over a century.

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<v Speaker 1>Fund I haint the interrupt because roma's out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to go answer all your phone cloths about

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<v Speaker 1>the vote. But the school funding mechanism through the property

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<v Speaker 1>text wasn't that declared unconstitutional by the High Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years ago, and yet here we are never

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<v Speaker 1>been changed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not well versed on that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have had people talk to me in that regard. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that we do need to watch

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I'm not gonna, you know, disparage my schools.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some great schools, but I but I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that, you know, with our influx of immigration, and

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<v Speaker 2>those are refugees because they are made legal by the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government. That's why we can't kick them out because

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<v Speaker 2>they're technically legal. As they're coming in, the demand and

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<v Speaker 2>the requirements on our school buildings and things that are

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<v Speaker 2>is increasing. But remember, those people don't pay taxes because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't own homes. So it falls on the homeowner

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<v Speaker 2>not always, I mean some of the highway and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that comes from the Department of Transportation and our

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<v Speaker 2>transportation budget, but we the homeowner because I'm a homeowner,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and the homeowner bears the brunt every single

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<v Speaker 2>time a levee's passed, whether they vote on it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>and every single time a recession occurs and your values

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<v Speaker 2>influx of refugees, they will be paying too, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the expenses at the state level, and that hits the

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<v Speaker 2>middle class in our homeowners. So I've always been a

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<v Speaker 2>fierce fighter for we need to spend within our means

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<v Speaker 2>and not spend up to what we keep taxing the taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 2>We can say to you and we are balancing the budget.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you give me five billion, then I say

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<v Speaker 2>I spent five billion, but I really only needed three.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still say to you I stayed within the

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you can, and no, that doesn't make it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's day, stop the theft of equity. Eleven am Capital

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<v Speaker 1>Building right there in Columbus. Join the crowd and support

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<v Speaker 1>of this this measure, and Jennifer Griss, I cannot thank

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<v Speaker 1>you enough for telling my listeners all about it today

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<v Speaker 1>and giving us a glimmer of hope. I'm only trying

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<v Speaker 1>to anticipate what the naysayers will be arguing against this,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll have time to do that down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay well and good luck with a vote today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to hear there's going to be well. A vote

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<v Speaker 1>and unanimity, at least in the aftermath. In Columbus, Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 1>take care and have a wonderful day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, have a wonderful day.

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