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<v Speaker 1>Closing time.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been gone for hours and it's time to close

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<v Speaker 2>the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Good notably an all time great Bob Dylan's song. Really

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<v Speaker 1>good way to open up the podcast episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, the reason why I'm doing it mac little

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<v Speaker 2>topical news here for a little poly charged if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>But TikTok is on the clock might be shutting down

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<v Speaker 2>in just a couple days. And how does that tie

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<v Speaker 2>into our topic. Well, Bob Dylan just joined TikTok this

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<v Speaker 2>past Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens first TikTok officially gets banned or Bob Dylan dies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that TikTok might go away. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really stupid if it does, really really stupid if

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<v Speaker 1>it does. I learned last week when talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>movie Yeah at work, that Bob don't still live.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's still very much alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like eighty four years old. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was dead.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't see him with Mumford and Song at the

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<v Speaker 2>Sun at the Grammys a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, Well maybe, but that was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like fifteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're in your eighties, a year is a dog year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like seven years, you make another year. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a real accomplishment.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, though, Bob Dylan joining TikTok now would be

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<v Speaker 2>like after the Titanic hit the iceberg and you like

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<v Speaker 2>paraglide in and land on the deck and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>who was going on? Guys, got any cool news?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Not great, not great timing, especially considering this movie

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<v Speaker 1>came out three weeks ago. You would have thought he

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<v Speaker 1>would have joined like a month ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the first video that was posted was clearly done

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<v Speaker 2>by someone else. It's a minute long and it's promoting

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<v Speaker 2>his music and how he's now on TikTok. The other

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<v Speaker 2>one is someone commented being like, you've only got thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a video of him going I better get

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. So maybe that's it. Maybe he leaves

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok before it closes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's clearly not aloof and he has

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<v Speaker 1>stood for a lot of things over his Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know d sears active here, but does he look

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<v Speaker 1>the most aloof anyone's ever looked?

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<v Speaker 2>On purpose?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. Yeah, he's purposefully trying to look

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Like he's the textbook definition of a loof

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<v Speaker 1>the way he looks right, he's not well, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>is now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think he is now. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>still as sharp as an attack. You see him. You

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<v Speaker 2>see when Chalomey did the dress up of him, when

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<v Speaker 2>he had the blonde hair and the little mustache and goateee.

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<v Speaker 2>That has nothing to do with this topic, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the substance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>One was younger than the other. Let's get back to

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok here for a second. If it does go away,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this to you people over there, all one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy of our followers, thank you for following us.

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<v Speaker 1>This whole TikTok nonsense is a complete fucking witch hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so stupid, it's so dumb. I only joined TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a year and a half, two years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>never really came back I spend all sorts of time

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, but the whole I don't. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get political here now, but this has been a complete

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<v Speaker 1>and utter witch hunt. What a joke this has been.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll all be proven right one good three? Yeah, job three,

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<v Speaker 2>King of Queen Mill Street, entertaining time. Go and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Mac and we are the Mac and You program. We

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<v Speaker 2>bring you friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, friendship in the form of a completely unknown podcast. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're pretty known. I think everyone knows exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna say today.

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<v Speaker 1>We are discussing the Bobby Zimmerman biopic, a complete unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, the Bob Dylan movie. Dare I say not? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So going into a biopiccou Yeah, you're expecting you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of two things. One it captures a moment, a

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse in like the Rise of the Artist. Or two

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a whole life spanning thing. This one is

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. But when you do the first one,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have some real highs, and this movie just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have them.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think playing an electric guitar is a high.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think strumming an electric guitar at the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five Newport Folkfest is is really what the people

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was age huge cultural touchstone moment. Though

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<v Speaker 2>I do understand that, which is really funny though, because

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<v Speaker 2>like people of that age are like, yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>complain about the stupidest stuff. Well, Bob Dylan played an

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<v Speaker 2>electric guitar and you guys all lost your minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they're tomatoes at it. Yeah. Cinematically that plays out

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<v Speaker 1>poorly is not the word, just like so anti climatically

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<v Speaker 1>like this movie. Timothy Shallow may don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>he deserves every accolade he may or may not get.

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<v Speaker 1>He's nominated for a bunch of shit. He's what carries

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<v Speaker 1>this movie and carries in the in the the highest

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<v Speaker 1>sense of the word. Because this movie's pretty boring, pretty boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's not boring. No, so I fun no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no highs. Look you're not you're not rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>or against anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the fact that we have a nice tight

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<v Speaker 2>window of when he starts and then as he hits

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<v Speaker 2>the zenith of his popularity. I think you have an

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<v Speaker 2>air that it's a four year window.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct yeah, technically so it starts in sixty one ends

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty five, so five fullest years.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also doesn't pull any punches of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Bob Dylan's an asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>So number one, they make him somewhat of an asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. Number two, Goo, let's get through the nuts

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<v Speaker 1>and bolts. Actually, let before we dive into what this

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<v Speaker 1>movie did and didn't do. Let's get to the nuts

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<v Speaker 1>and bolts. Because I have a like a small gripe,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not a Bob Dylan guy. You're not a

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Bob Dylan, do you really? I don't love

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Dylan. I like Bob Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>I love two Bob Dylan songs. On the whole, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care for him. I recognize the significance songwriting wise,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the all time greats, maybe the greatest songwriter ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not care for his voice. So going into this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not expecting to love this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have spoken with two people who love Bob Dylan

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<v Speaker 2>and have seen this movie, one of them being my

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<v Speaker 2>father in law, who thought the portrayals by all the

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<v Speaker 2>actors were spot on. He said that every mannerism was

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<v Speaker 2>nailed by every single actor. That was echoed by a

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<v Speaker 2>second person that also love Bob Dylan and usually hates

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<v Speaker 2>the fact when a biopic biopic, I just said it

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<v Speaker 2>completely wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, biopeds biopic, whatever you say, biopic people off.

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<v Speaker 2>But he had said he usually hates when they take

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that that the movie made sense, the

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<v Speaker 2>stretches of the truth made sense for this storytelling, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So riddle me this. Then, Goo in nineteen sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five when he plays Newport Folk Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't alive.

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<v Speaker 1>No, neither of us were for another twenty three years,

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<v Speaker 1>answers your question. Four years. He gets married, Goo to

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<v Speaker 1>his first wife in nineteen sixty five. It has four

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<v Speaker 1>kids with her. There's no mention of her in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not at all brought up in this movie. So

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<v Speaker 1>they took some liberties. She's completely omitted from this film.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't bring her up whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was a thing, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, there you go. So I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bothered by that, but I digress. Goo, a complete unknown,

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<v Speaker 1>has been in theater since Christmas so it's on its

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<v Speaker 1>it's made fifty two point four million at the box office,

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<v Speaker 1>just sixteen thousand internationally. So what did it cost just

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<v Speaker 1>a US release? GOI reportedly the budget for this movie

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to seventy million.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is gonna lose money. It might make back

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<v Speaker 1>the budget, but the marketing that tied end, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>Make it back in DVD sales.

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<v Speaker 1>So this movie is gonna lose money. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in part because Bob Dylan's not so popular.

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<v Speaker 2>No he is. I think that the way this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna work, no one talks.

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<v Speaker 1>About Bob Dylan the way they do the Beatles, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>No, pretty similar, It's no. No, people people say the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest American songwriter is Bob Dylan.

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<v Speaker 1>People do not talk about Bob Dylan the way they

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<v Speaker 2>That's because people can't can't shut up about the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but when you're talking about cultural significance, Goo, the

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<v Speaker 1>box office is the perfect number right there. It might

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<v Speaker 1>make seventy million domestically, it's gonna make no money international,

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're telling a worldwide stock.

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<v Speaker 2>But that Bob Dylan is more important than Robbie Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't, that's not even the name. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even care for James Robbie Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Anderson is the wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>He he doesn't have the worldwide appeal that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>want when you're making a biopick. In the very same

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<v Speaker 1>way Robbie Williams doesn't. Two misfires. I think two okay stories.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know people have acted well, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a complete misfire in my eyes. And again

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<v Speaker 1>I recognize the significance of Bob Dylan. That said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to watch a Bob Dylan biopick. I might

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<v Speaker 1>stomach a documentary like he grew up, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties, when there was a lot of shit going

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<v Speaker 1>on socially. And that's another thing they didn't get into

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<v Speaker 1>enough goo in this movie, is they they don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how socially relevant he became during all those movements

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties. They just glossed over it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was a little frustrating because that's the most interesting part

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<v Speaker 1>of his.

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<v Speaker 2>Time Rolling Stones, Rolling Stone the magazine, not the band.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred Greatest Songwriters of All Time at number one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a watch Mojo list. Now, Bob Dylan, I

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<v Speaker 2>just said that three minutes ago. You might consider I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest songwriter of all time. That doesn't change the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that no one talks about Bob Dylan the way

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<v Speaker 2>they talk about the Beatles, The Stones, even Queen a

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<v Speaker 2>biopick that did tremendously better than this. So you're judging

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<v Speaker 2>his all off box office.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you really have to consider, like, why would

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a seventy million dollar budget, why would and

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<v Speaker 2>I just think because it happened so long ago now,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious, because give me the documentary. Because they're

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<v Speaker 2>making the Beatle Verse movies with the four Beatles movies.

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<v Speaker 2>How much better those even do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but at least that has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a worldwide appeal. Again, give me the documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got a couple of Beatles documentaries we don't have,

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<v Speaker 1>like the the defined Bob Dylan documentary. Probably I'm much

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<v Speaker 1>more interested than that, and it would cost way less

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so this is now sitting as the eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>highest grossing biopic ever. I'm sure they were expecting more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. It might finish in the top ten. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>It is an R rated biography drama and music sub

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<v Speaker 1>genres here go docu drama, period drama. I do think

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<v Speaker 2>May I recommend a documentary to you right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>by Martin Scorsese. It's called No Direction Home. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, which makes sense when we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the writers in a second. This is a runtime of

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<v Speaker 2>The character that I really liked, and I had no

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of her prior to this, I didn't like I

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<v Speaker 2>knew who Bob Dylan was, I knew who Joan Biez was,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh Sylby Russo, I wanted more of her. I

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's the other thing too, which I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who she is el fan movie, El Fantas.

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<v Speaker 1>She did a good joke. Apparently her real name is

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<v Speaker 1>Susie Russo. So did she not give them the rights?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she has went by Silby No.

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<v Speaker 1>A good had one hundred and forty one minutes. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have it. On roddy teaz seventy eight percent from

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<v Speaker 1>the critics, ninety six percent from the audience, and on

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<v Speaker 1>Metacritic of seventy one. So I actually feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>critics have actually nailed what this is. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>in that you know, sea range where it's like paid

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<v Speaker 1>by numbers biopick with a really good performance, and to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's more than just one good performance though.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a well acted movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but it's in the biopick. All you really care

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<v Speaker 1>about is the person the movie's about. If that's done, well,

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<v Speaker 2>By Edward Norton as Pete Seeger is one of the best,

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<v Speaker 2>not impressions, but like portrayals of someone where you think

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares about Pete Seeger. Goo, That's that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting into here. You don't care about Pete Seeger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about Pete Seeger. Your father in law

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<v Speaker 1>does great. This movie's gonna lose my My father.

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<v Speaker 2>In law knew who was on the fucking keyboard during

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<v Speaker 1>They should have made this movie twenty five years ago, Goo,

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<v Speaker 1>when Walk the Line was made, they should have made this.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Walk the Line, I love when Johnny Cash

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<v Speaker 2>shows up in this. Yeah, someone made the point of

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an Oppenheimer. When Einstein shows up, Everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 1>This movie is speaking of Walk the Line written by

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<v Speaker 1>James Mangold, Jay Cox Nice, hold On, hold On, Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>James man Gold and James Cox, based on the book

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Goes Electric by Elijah Wald. We know James Mangold,

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<v Speaker 1>but to give you some of his writing background. Oliver

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<v Speaker 1>and Company. One of Goo's favorites, cop Land, underrated movie,

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Interrupted, underrated movie, Walk the Line That's properly rated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone kind of loves that movie. Logan is

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<v Speaker 1>The Dial of Destiny is the last one he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>before this. Not coming off a peak, go upcoming a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's both writing and directing Star Wars Down of the Jedi,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's interesting. I'm in on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he said that he wanted the Star Wars story

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<v Speaker 2>that had no ties to anything Goo.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought up Scorsese earlier. Jay Cox is a noted

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<v Speaker 1>scorsece writer on his movies Age of Innocence, Silence, Gangs

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<v Speaker 1>of New York. He also helmed or penned the Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty forty years. Upcoming, he's he's written something called

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<v Speaker 1>The Last of the Savages. So if you're if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into his stuff, there you go. Directed again by James Mangold.

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<v Speaker 1>He directed all those movies I just talked about on

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<v Speaker 1>top of Identity three, Tender Yuma, The Wolverine, Ford Versus Ferrari.

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<v Speaker 1>So James Mangold has had a pretty great career. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe this movie moved him into the It was

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<v Speaker 1>either the top thirty or top forty all time of

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<v Speaker 1>highest grossing directors. So he's, you know, he's still got

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he's I'm looking forward to the Star Wars movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I almost feel like he's a

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Verus Ferrari was great. But if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>Like this movie was the perfect opportunity for a director

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<v Speaker 1>as known as as great as James Mangold is to

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<v Speaker 1>of the source material, at least what they showed us

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie is not very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It does just feel like an ordinary biopic. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>chance to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>A notch, and he didn't. Maybe he tried and it

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<v Speaker 1>got shot down. But I was waiting for like that

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<v Speaker 1>Mangold like I don't know, excitement, and it just never

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<v Speaker 1>came in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Our buddy formerly of the Boxer's podcast, Wesley burho Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Very apt for this one. Yeah, my so speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>so your father in law, my father's a little younger,

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<v Speaker 1>my father still in his fifties. Not a Dylan guy,

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<v Speaker 1>like doesn't hate Dylan, just not a Dylan guy. Had

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<v Speaker 1>no really interesting going to see this Opta tocy wicked instead,

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<v Speaker 1>So like even the dads like I because Dylan is

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<v Speaker 1>a divisive figure and they show that somewhat in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was just never like, there was never something

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<v Speaker 1>super entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>So you wanted them to get more into like like

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<v Speaker 2>the civil discourse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because that's way more interesting than the fucking Newport

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<v Speaker 1>folk Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>But what don't you get about this is that if

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<v Speaker 2>he played electric guitar at the folk festival, then no

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<v Speaker 2>one would like folk music anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get that they're basing it off a book

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<v Speaker 1>based off of that, but it's a Bob Dylan biopic,

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<v Speaker 1>so put more stuff in it other than just his

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<v Speaker 1>trials and tribulations at the fucking Newport Folk Festival. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of frustrating. And as someone that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>know a ton about Bob Dylan, I really didn't learn

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<v Speaker 1>much about him in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you like the amount of music played?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the best part of this movie was that

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<v Speaker 1>the music wasn't overwhelming. And it also they didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>break into some every now and then. Bob Dylan musician

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<v Speaker 1>just played music everything he.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't like start singing on the street and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I actually I appreciated that aspect of this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, everyone wants something from him, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a big still a synopsis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, In nineteen sixty one, an unknown nineteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan arrives in.

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<v Speaker 2>New York City, a complete unknown if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and Forger's relationships with music icons on his meteoric rise,

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<v Speaker 1>culminating in a groundbreaking performance that reverberates worldwide. Also, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the movie's terrible. What was the Queen biopick,

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<v Speaker 1>the Freddie Murphy biop Bohaemian rahaps a Day Mercury. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so that culminates in Live a Right, and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty fantastic experience. And of course there's tons of footage

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<v Speaker 1>of that as well. But I think they were going

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Dylan's only five foot seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's why Timothy Shallamy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Timothy Schalame is five foot ten.

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<v Speaker 1>No, how about that? How tall is John bia give

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<v Speaker 1>this movie stars as Bob Dylan aka Robert Zimmerman, that

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<v Speaker 1>is his government name. Edward Norton as Pete Seeger, who

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<v Speaker 1>goose father in law loved. Edward Norton did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't give a fuck about Pete Seeger. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone does. El Fanning as Sylvie Russo. She

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<v Speaker 1>was very good to me. She was showing the most

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<v Speaker 1>range in this movie. I really appreciated her character. Monica

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<v Speaker 1>Barabo as Joan Baiez, another very popular folk singer in

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<v Speaker 1>the early sixties. Boyd Holbrook is Johnny Cash, who essentially

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<v Speaker 1>is Dylan's idol and then contemporary. I thought he did a.

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<v Speaker 1>He played Johnny Cash about as understated as you can

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<v Speaker 1>to not take away from the main.

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<v Speaker 2>No, there was the one scene of him trying to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that's about as understated as you

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<v Speaker 1>can play Johnny Cash. Based on his life and time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was playing Johnny Cash, I would just start saying

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<v Speaker 2>all of his song lyric by accidents.

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Seeger's wife, Toshi Segar was played by Erko Hatsune.

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<v Speaker 1>She did a very nice job. And then we get

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<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to play someone who is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on their deathbed and is riddled with something. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I did an unbelievable job. Was great. The three scenes

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those are really good scenes him and Dylan in

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital and Dylan talking to him, but also just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of talking to no one it was or playing

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It showed and humanized Dylan a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>which the film needed because they you're right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>they show how how big of an asshole he is

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<v Speaker 1>at certain points. But he didn't have a big assholeish

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<v Speaker 1>moment in the movie either like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was no because even even the one part on the

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<v Speaker 2>street where the girl says to him, but I love you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he looks at He's like I just met you,

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<v Speaker 2>so like you're on his side. So like at first

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00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, like how long does it? This was

423
00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:58.799
<v Speaker 2>after a little break in time, like how long had

424
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<v Speaker 2>he been with her? But then immediately this is like

425
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<v Speaker 2>their first date.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So again, this movie encompasses, encompasses Dylan's rise to fame,

427
00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.839
<v Speaker 1>the meteoric rise it culminates, you know, the final fifteen

428
00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:14.519
<v Speaker 1>minutes is his performance at Newport Folk Festival in nineteen

429
00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.039
<v Speaker 1>sixty five, where he uses an electric guitar and a

430
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<v Speaker 1>full band, which, if you know anything about folk music

431
00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is taboo, especially in nineteen sixty five. And I get

432
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<v Speaker 1>how prominent and how you know, big that was in

433
00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.799
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five. I just didn't feel like that came

434
00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.680
<v Speaker 1>across all that much in this movie. You just had

435
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.039
<v Speaker 1>like the festival planners I said about it.

436
00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Trying to chop down a board with an axe.

437
00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I am perturbed, Goo, because again I'm not a big

438
00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan guy. But like we get it. Bob Dylan

439
00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>had four kids, and it was married for like fifteen

440
00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.400
<v Speaker 1>or twenty years, and they got married in nineteen sixty five,

441
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:54.519
<v Speaker 1>So I get why they ended up where they did

442
00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:56.319
<v Speaker 1>in one respect, but at the same time to like

443
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<v Speaker 1>not bring any of that up at all.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Well, once you play electric guitar at a folk festival,

445
00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.359
<v Speaker 2>your career is over. It is now time to move

446
00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.559
<v Speaker 2>on and work at the steel mill and have children.

447
00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just I think that was dumb.

448
00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:14.559
<v Speaker 1>And again, I'm perfectly fine with biopicks being just snapshots

449
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.559
<v Speaker 1>of someone's rise. I maybe prefer in some respects, but

450
00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this just did like the rise of Bob Dylan was

451
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.400
<v Speaker 1>not that interesting. It just wasn't. He just played Newport

452
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<v Speaker 1>Folk Festival a couple times and then played electric guitar

453
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<v Speaker 1>in nights in sixty five. And I get the historic

454
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<v Speaker 1>significance of it, But as a fucking movie and a

455
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<v Speaker 1>story that's not very interesting.

456
00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.839
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a little more interesting than what

457
00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:39.759
<v Speaker 2>you're giving forth right now. I thought it was. I

458
00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:42.200
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a solid bio pick. I thought that

459
00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.440
<v Speaker 2>there were really good performances in it. I like how

460
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.480
<v Speaker 2>short the story is as well. I don't need their

461
00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:50.920
<v Speaker 2>entire they were born, they were a child, and then

462
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they died. I'm cool with the Yes, it doesn't necessarily

463
00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:58.680
<v Speaker 2>have like the highest peak to it, but it's a

464
00:22:58.799 --> 00:22:59.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid valley.

465
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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, in this day and age, if

466
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna invest seventy million into a biopick, it better

467
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be fucking interesting and worth it and unique like and

468
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this is why. And I think you appreciate this as well.

469
00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 1>When we talk about Taron Edgerton as Elton John, how

470
00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>awesome that was because it was such a unique take

471
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 1>on a biopick and it fit the artist so well.

472
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Like that movie is what people should be striving to

473
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<v Speaker 1>make when they make biopicks.

474
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<v Speaker 2>But I also really loved the NWA one, and that's

475
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of a straightforward biopick.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. I'm just it just sometimes like if if

477
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not perfect, it comes off as lazy, and this

478
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 1>feels a little lazy. Mm.

479
00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:42.279
<v Speaker 2>I slightly disagree, but I know what you're talking about. Okay,

480
00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:44.200
<v Speaker 2>should we do the Octagon?

481
00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get through the octagon fun factor.

482
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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of songs that I knew.

483
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:51.240
<v Speaker 1>There actually wasn't a lot of songs.

484
00:23:51.480 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Really, you didn't know a lot of those songs.

485
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I knew three songs. Not much fun in

486
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this movie. I would have preferred more of the social

487
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 1>strife or the relationship back and forth. We just got

488
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>too much of the Newport Folk Festival, so I.

489
00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Think the reason why, and obviously they just wanted to

490
00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.319
<v Speaker 2>focus on like that's what the story was. But I

491
00:24:12.359 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>think if you focused on the social stuff, would that

492
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>split audiences.

493
00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at the box office number. I don't

494
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:18.799
<v Speaker 1>think it would have mattered.

495
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know whatever satisfactor. No. I was hoping that

496
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we were building towards something else. But I should have

497
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.440
<v Speaker 2>known going in, because that's what this movie was about.

498
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it tells you from from the jump, and

499
00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it builds towards that. About halfway through, you know how

500
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:37.599
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna culminate, and it just like it just

501
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't satisfy the viewer.

502
00:24:39.039 --> 00:24:40.839
<v Speaker 2>Even at the beginning of the movie. Wait, was this

503
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>in the movie or did my father in law whisper

504
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 2>this to me that he Pete Seeger says very early

505
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 2>on that he hates electric instruments.

506
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I caught it. Did he say

507
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.359
<v Speaker 1>that you got that you got that vibe anyway.

508
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 2>But wasn't whispered to me in my ear.

509
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:58.799
<v Speaker 1>It may have may have been whispered for you, but

510
00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you got that vibe for sure.

511
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 2>You also did feel that he was willing to bend,

512
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>not break on it, but then by the end he

513
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 2>would not give in.

514
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just crazy, absolutely crazy.

515
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's your biggest start. Just let him do

516
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck he wants. Right If you're hosting a

517
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>folk festival and you get Bob Dylan there and Bob

518
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Dylan wants to take a shit in a hat, you say, Bob,

519
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 2>you want a hat? Do you give him your hat?

520
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I would like to see did he speak to the

521
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 1>accuracy of who was more popular at the time, Johnny

522
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Cash or Bob Dylan.

523
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I did not ask, but I think in that circle

524
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>it would be Bob Dylan.

525
00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I don't know.

526
00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Let's see here borometer. I thought it was pretty even throughout,

527
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>like it would I don't think there were any super highs,

528
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:48.200
<v Speaker 2>but there weren't. He lows It's consistent.

529
00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, and that's why I feel like this

530
00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:54.519
<v Speaker 1>is I guess, maybe not lazy, but really average movie.

531
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Like the pacing was done well seemed to scene. It

532
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>was solid. It was kind of boring just because there

533
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 1>was no high highs. There was nothing to like get

534
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>real jazzed up about or much to talk about at

535
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the end of the movie. But yeah, like baseline, the

536
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pulse was decent.

537
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Like when they brought Sylbe back into the movie early

538
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.519
<v Speaker 2>third act, I'm like, oh, I'm interested to see what

539
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 2>she does. You know what she does. She leaves nothing. No,

540
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.799
<v Speaker 2>she leaves nothing, instantly leaves. Yeah, kind of disappointed with that.

541
00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Having no knowledge of any of their lives. I was

542
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.799
<v Speaker 2>hoping for something a little bit more.

543
00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And don't get me wrong, like I guess, get

544
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 1>me wrong. I don't give a fuck, Like, yeah, we

545
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>spend you've been wrong this entire time.

546
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>It's okay, we.

547
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Spend over two hours with this character. A lot of

548
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>people our age don't know much of anything about him,

549
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and so you become somewhat invested in this character and

550
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to see what ends up happening to this

551
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>character instead of having to google stuff at the end

552
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.759
<v Speaker 1>of the movie and so like not showing him becoming

553
00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.559
<v Speaker 1>a family man after.

554
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yet over the family man stuff.

555
00:26:56.039 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 1>That's movie again, No, but that's significant to Bob Dylan

556
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>because he's so anti establishment in this and that and whatever,

557
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a significant thing that it becomes a family

558
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>man for twenty years, you know.

559
00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But like, okay, So what Mac wanted was before

560
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.319
<v Speaker 2>he goes on stage with his electric guitar, he looks

561
00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>over at Pete and he says, after this, I'm gonna

562
00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 2>go settle down.

563
00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>No, but I at least want to see him meet

564
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>his wife and give us a little bit, like a

565
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>little crumbs down that path. And it's just not there.

566
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's that interesting.

567
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>It's more interesting than the rest of the movie.

568
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 2>I disagree. Him becoming a parent is not interesting.

569
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.559
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not him necessarily becoming a parent.

570
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>It's him change on a family sitcom with Bob Dylan

571
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 2>as the dad.

572
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan fundamentally changing is what I'm getting at, And

573
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't show you.

574
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Look, I agree with you that it would have been

575
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>more interesting if you look at if you look at

576
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.799
<v Speaker 2>his politics and that type of stuff. I don't agree

577
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 2>with you about him being a family man. I don't

578
00:27:56.960 --> 00:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>care about that.

579
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You're missing the fucking point. That whole movie shows how

580
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>big of an asshole he is. And how he doesn't

581
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 1>value human connections and even at the end there's he's like,

582
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 1>h doesn't say bye, And then instantly in real life

583
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 1>in that year, he got fucking married and had four

584
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>kids with this woman.

585
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he has a husband and as a father, and

586
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know this he's the exact same guy.

587
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's a possibility. Gu but the fact that

588
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not mentioned is insane.

589
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 2>And that's the beauty of this movie. It leaves you guessing.

590
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh it doesn't because it's not interesting enough.

591
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:35.039
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that Bad Man Halloween.

592
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.319
<v Speaker 1>That's annoying.

593
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, this movie Wayne Overtime.

594
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm never watching this movie ever again.

595
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 2>Lemonade. When life gives you plemons, you make plemonade. And

596
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I will go with Eddie Norton.

597
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna go with Scoop McNary. He brought

598
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>some emotion to those scenes. He jumped over our Quada world.

599
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>This movie. This movie floats because of Timothy Shaloman. He

600
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>does an amazing job.

601
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 2>But I don't like there are other biopics where the

602
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>lead actor like you feel it the whole time. You're like,

603
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>this guy is gonna win an Academy Award. This doesn't

604
00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like that for Shells.

605
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, I don't think he's a shoe. And then,

606
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and actually I was thinking about that when the movie

607
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 1>was over. I was like, I don't know if that's

608
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the best. I don't even know if it's the best

609
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Timothy Shallomey performance I saw.

610
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Dune, Give Me du He's better in Duke, Give Me do.

611
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Better in Doune. Yeah, but it's also because Bob Dylan's

612
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit of an eccentric and a cartoon character in

613
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>his own right. It's really hard to play that character,

614
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.079
<v Speaker 1>which is why I'm giving him credit.

615
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Pants Den City, Excite, Mike Mania, what Gut You Going?

616
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Nothing doesn't have the standout moment. There's no highs in

617
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>general in this It's not lustful, it's not sexy, it's

618
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 1>not fun. There's no like even you know. And maybe

619
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>this is because I'm not a Bob Dylan guy. Musically, like,

620
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.839
<v Speaker 1>there's no foot stomping, toe tapping type of thing along

621
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the way, like the way that a lot of musical

622
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 1>biopicks are. It's just this movie just exists with really

623
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 1>good acting. That's that's it.

624
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think some of the music when you start to

625
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>hear him getting into one of his famous songs, You're like,

626
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>oh shit, I know this one, and then they sing

627
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing.

628
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>The most gleeful part of the movie is the first

629
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>time you hear the dude play the organ in the

630
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in the studio. Yea for like a rolling stone. That's

631
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>probably the best part.

632
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>All right, Mac, you've already gone to your credit union, right.

633
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's Timothy Shallon May He's If he wasn't good,

634
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>this movie would be god awful.

635
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<v Speaker 2>For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goo party.

636
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 2>We rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system. Mac,

637
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>what did you think of Bob Dylan Colin movie?

638
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>So I'm about six hours removed from having seen this.

639
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 1>You've seen it, sorry, almost a month ago, so you're

640
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.359
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable with how you feel about it. This for

641
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 1>me felt like a really classic Paint by Numbers biopick.

642
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 1>It didn't take any chances. There's barely any struggle or

643
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>anything to keep you interested. There's nothing overtly fun or

644
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 1>like juicy in the way you'd expect in one of

645
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>these biopicks about a famous musician. There's nothing in here

646
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're like, ooh, I learned this about Bob Dolan today.

647
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It just feels really plain, really average, and maybe that's

648
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 1>what suits Bob doan, but that's probably not right because

649
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 1>of the legacy he has. I just thought it was

650
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.359
<v Speaker 1>pretty met like without the performance of Timoey's Sellamey. I

651
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this floats. So I don't know like it.

652
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.599
<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad movie. It's just like disappointing. I

653
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>guess it's when you get into biopics, like you really

654
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 1>got to crush it for me to love the movie.

655
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So I think I left it like thirty thirty one

656
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>hot Dogs and I might be at like twenty eight

657
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine right now, so it's probably in the twenties

658
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>for me. I think I've seen fifty three movies now

659
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 1>from twenty twenty four. It's I'm gonna go I'll go

660
00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty hot Dogs on the nose, give it a seventy

661
00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>five ish, But I feel like tomorrow I'm gonna be

662
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>at twenty eight.

663
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>You just said a word that struck a chord with me,

664
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a guitar string if you will. This movie does lack struggle.

665
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 2>There's no struggle to it. No, it's all up.

666
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he doesn't get knocked down at all.

667
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 2>There's no fucking tumbawamba.

668
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 1>And again that might be very true, but that doesn't

669
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>make for an interesting story.

670
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>So maybe the more interesting story is, you know, how

671
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>we start with him getting to New Jersey, maybe the

672
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 2>five years prior to that, that's the more interesting story

673
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 2>of him.

674
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't get any background.

675
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>He claims that he's a circus freak, Like how did

676
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>he end up getting to New Jersey and catching his

677
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 2>break there?

678
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give us twenty five minutes of him getting his

679
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 1>ass kicked in the circus or whatever, people hating him,

680
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>people his family doesn't like him, and then he moves

681
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to the big city and makes it, And then that's

682
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 1>built in more of a rooting interest.

683
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 2>In the five years prior, like how did he become

684
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 2>such a wordsmith? How did he become such a poet?

685
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Because he just shows up and he's already that.

686
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Which, again, like I think the mistake from the jump

687
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 1>was choosing just that one book to go off of,

688
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Like we're talking about Bob Don't here again like significant

689
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>figure in music history, and he gave us a four

690
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>or five year window snapshot where nothing went wrong.

691
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>For I guess because even at the end, like he

692
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 2>he has no thoughts of like, Okay, I'm not gonna

693
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>play the electric guitar now, He's just gonna do There's

694
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:17.279
<v Speaker 2>no recushions.

695
00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 1>He just stops on it.

696
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>He has no second thought about it, about anything really,

697
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Like even when he's when he's playing the duets with

698
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Joan and he's like, I'm not gonna play this song.

699
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 2>My guitar is broken, my microphone's broken. Sorry about that. Yeah,

700
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>there is no issues for him in this movie.

701
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>Which is why, like I'm annoyed with James Mangold too,

702
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>because he is such a good director that you would

703
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:40.480
<v Speaker 1>have thought there would have been a nice spinning here.

704
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And he's one of the writers as well, something in

705
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 1>the script where he could have made this a more

706
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 1>interesting movie. I get like, you're trying to tell a

707
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty true story, but I don't know, man, Like, at

708
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 1>some point you gotta grip us in somehow.

709
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I think I understand now that if you set this

710
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>movie ten years after these events, and you know, he

711
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>was the biggest music star in the world and now

712
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>he's a stay at home dad, it's Bob Dylan.

713
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 1>But it is more interesting just inherently just think about it,

714
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Like someone with a wife of four kids. It's much

715
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>harder to be a very famous musician when you're single

716
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:23.159
<v Speaker 1>and twenty four years old. It's really easy. It's very easy.

717
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 2>I have this at thirty one, hot Dogs, Mac.

718
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I yeah, I'm gonna go give me twenty nine,

719
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:29.679
<v Speaker 1>give me twenty.

720
00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Nine, twenty nine. I have this ranked let's see here,

721
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:34.039
<v Speaker 2>thirteenth on the year.

722
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Jesus again, it had been a great year. That's

723
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 1>pretty high for a thirty one though.

724
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>No, no, so it's after like my old ass, the

725
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 2>bike Rider's Furio, some monkey Man, Twisters, Planet of the Apes,

726
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>all those.

727
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was twenty when I had it at

728
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.519
<v Speaker 1>thirty thirty one. Yeah, so if I bump into twenty nine,

729
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>this just comes in at like twenty eight. Here's a

730
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>question for you. This's your gladiator too. Yeah.

731
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I like this better than Glady. This is a more

732
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.119
<v Speaker 2>concise story, This is a better told story.

733
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>This might be this might be a little better. So

734
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I have gladiated to at twenty nine. So maybe this

735
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is thirty or maybe a better twenty nine. Mac.

736
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:10.920
<v Speaker 2>If I were to ask you right now, though I

737
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 2>know that you said you're not a bob Dylan guy,

738
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>I get it. Can you give me a six pack

739
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.159
<v Speaker 2>of Bob Dylan songs?

740
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So? I think his best song is the Hurricane about

741
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Rubyn Hurricane Carter. I think that's his best song. No

742
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.599
<v Speaker 1>one ever says it is because they always say like

743
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a Rolling Stone is the greatest song of all time,

744
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 1>or they always point to how Watchtower, even though Hendricks

745
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>made his own thing, Bob Dylan did write it. Like

746
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a Rolling Stone does have a really like gospelish feel.

747
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Is very cool. I really really like that song watched Ower.

748
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll say I'll scream it from the highest mountain top.

749
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Dave Matthews band does the best version of that song.

750
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Hendrix is incredible.

751
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You think Dave Matthews is a better version than Hendrix?

752
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh my God, let me give you a hat? You

753
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 2>go shit in a hat?

754
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan's Bob Dylan's version of all Along the Watchtower

755
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 1>sounds like he's getting attacked by a cat.

756
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Who is to say he isn't. I don't know where

757
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 2>he was recording.

758
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Those might be the only three Bob Dylan songs. I

759
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>like Watchtower, Hurricane, and uh rolling Stone. You can ask

760
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 1>me gool, can you give me a six pack of

761
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan songs.

762
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>I do really like his version of All Along the Watchtower.

763
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Hendrix's version is better, but I do like this. I

764
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 2>like this version better than the Dave Matthews version the

765
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Hurricane was it nine and a half ten minutes long?

766
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>That's like that, what a bomb? It's so such a

767
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>great story told and everything else.

768
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this, I jokingly said this to you

769
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, with the best Bob Dylan

770
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.639
<v Speaker 1>movie is Hurricane, starring Dozel Washington. I'm right, Oh, I'm right.

771
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 1>That movie is better than this.

772
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>But what about the one where he's played by Kate Blanchette.

773
00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.800
<v Speaker 2>It's played by seven different actors. Actually, that's an that's

774
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>an interesting story, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, Blowing

775
00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 2>in the Wind, I like that one, like a rolling stone,

776
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the times they are.

777
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>A change in that one's okay. Yeah, I like.

778
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Mister tambourine Man. I'm not ashamed to say that I might.

779
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Like mister tambourine Man as well.

780
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>That was and there ain't no places I'm going to

781
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 2>so thirty one. I'm pretty good with that. I like

782
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the movie, but I'm you're right, can anyone out there

783
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 2>tell us was there any conflict in this movie for him?

784
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Obviously everyone around him had conflict.

785
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's very because of him, I guess.

786
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:40.679
<v Speaker 2>But he's also the reason why they were there.

787
00:37:40.840 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, true. This is one of the rare movies

788
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that has done pretty well, you know, critics and audience wise,

789
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't heard like anyone talk about online. There's

790
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of chatter about a lot

791
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>of movies in the last few weeks. And although you know,

792
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>there's been movies like Wicked and Anor that have a

793
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of dominated TikTok and whatnot, I haven't heard people

794
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about Shalome. But the movie itself, no one really

795
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>talks about.

796
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they'll talk about it when he joins the

797
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:10.760
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties music Avengers with Austin Butler's Elvis and

798
00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the Beatles movies that are coming up, and then maybe

799
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Freddy Murcury will but just jump back in time and

800
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>join them. It'll be a grand old time.

801
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pull up best actor odds on DraftKings right now.

802
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 1>See where Shalome is.

803
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I think he was second to the last time head.

804
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:31.159
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't strike me as as as the leader in

805
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the clubhouse.

806
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I think he was second the last time I checked.

807
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Best Actor, Adrian Brodie from The Brutals is minus two hundred.

808
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Chalome is plus one seventy five second, Ray Fien's is

809
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>third plus four hundred, Coleman Domingo's fourth plus eight hundred,

810
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and Daniel Craig is fifth plus fourteen hundred, and then

811
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Sebastian stands six plus two thousand. So there's still a

812
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 1>chance Chalome wins, and I'm not gonna say it's not deserved,

813
00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 1>but I won't I don't think I'll be rooting for

814
00:38:59.119 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>him to win this.

815
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>People are already starting to say that Chalamay might have

816
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>a Leo DiCaprio like run of nominations for like fifteen

817
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty years and then eventually get it.

818
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I could see that. I could see that. But yeah,

819
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's better in doone Too than he is

820
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 1>in this movie.

821
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love him in Dune too. I think he's

822
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>good in this.

823
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 1>He shows more range in Done two than he does

824
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>in this.

825
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>He was a leader of men. I would follow him

826
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 2>into the desert.

827
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 1>As a man who we just talked about at the

828
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>beginning of this episode, seemingly a small fella. The fact

829
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.079
<v Speaker 1>that he pulls off what he does in Done Too

830
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 1>is incredible.

831
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>He does the voice, don't do the voice. Let's get

832
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:47.119
<v Speaker 2>into Max say ma, sac could be anything. It could

833
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 2>be a boat. Mac one of our podcasting brethren, got

834
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:58.159
<v Speaker 2>into a sticky situation at work when he took a

835
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>canned beverage of the fridge, not labeled, but it did

836
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.639
<v Speaker 2>belong to someone else. And I'm gonna ask you, because

837
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 2>you work in an environment where there is a shared fridge,

838
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>there is a shared kitchen, etiquette wise, how do you

839
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>go about what you will eat at work and what

840
00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 2>you won't.

841
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>So typically in our scenario, a lot of times food

842
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>or energy drinks get dropped off, like at the firehouses,

843
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 1>people trying to promote stuff or leftover stuff. So that

844
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<v Speaker 1>stuff's pretty tell tale. You'll be like, oh, this is

845
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<v Speaker 1>for anyone, you can have it. People will grab from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see how sometimes maybe someone's stuff would get

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<v Speaker 1>mixed in with that, But generally, like if you bring

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<v Speaker 1>in food or whatever, you put it in the fridge

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<v Speaker 1>and you keep it in like a bag or a

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00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>lunch box or a little cool or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a general rule of thumb, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>our fire department. Like, let's say I work tomorrow and

853
00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>then I'm back in three or four days. If that

854
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:00.280
<v Speaker 1>thanks still in the fridge, it's up for grabs. You

855
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>go back in there, it's up for grabs. There's no

856
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if there's name on it. It's still

857
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>sitting in there. It's up for grabs.

858
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Like you'll go in there and you'll see a nameless

859
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:11.199
<v Speaker 2>bag and you'll just eat whatever you find in there.

860
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Now I won't, but some people will. Some people will.

861
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, people get hungry. I get it. You guys are

862
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 2>heroes on our job.

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00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.639
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Monday is fridge Day. So every Monday, the fridge

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<v Speaker 1>gets cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I think you meant the refrigerator. Perry from the

866
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Bears will show up every Monday and say to you guys.

867
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.440
<v Speaker 1>On Mondays, if there's stuff in there that's that's unlabeled,

868
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 1>it gets tossed and that makes it stuff for the

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00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>people that are on shift. But a lot of times,

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00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>like the night before, if they cook something and there's leftovers,

871
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>they'll let you know, like, hey, there's leftovers upstairs if

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00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.599
<v Speaker 1>you want it. But sometimes that stays in there for two,

873
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>three or four days.

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00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Do any fights ever break out.

875
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>No, they'll just it'll just turn into like a career

876
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.320
<v Speaker 1>long joke that you stole someone's this or that. Like

877
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, here's a good example of it.

878
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Like Friday's often we'll do pizza at the firehouse, and

879
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 1>sometimes people will just bring in their own pizza. So

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00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>there have been occasions where someone goes into the fridge,

881
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>sees leftover pizza and there and eats it. But it

882
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 1>was like someone.

883
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Someone else's left or pizza or someone else's pizza. Yeah, okay, right,

884
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 2>right right, And then they just get ship up. Like

885
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 2>what if you went into the fridge and you saw

886
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 2>a delicious turkey sandwich with a slice of bread in

887
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the middle that's covered in gravy. One might call it

888
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a moistmaker.

889
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Anything in the fridge looks like there's been some effort

890
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 1>put into I'm assuming it's someone's, so I don't touch it.

891
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.079
<v Speaker 2>That's from friends, by the way, that's why Ross gets

892
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:27.760
<v Speaker 2>fired from the school. I believe someone eats his sandwich

893
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 2>and he yells about it.

894
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I understand those reactions too, So it takes your shit.

895
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Then then your port for the day.

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00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can't ask me goo, what what's.

897
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 1>It like at your communal work situation? There?

898
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't eat at work, so I don't know. Eight hours,

899
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I just sit there and going there. Ye okay, I focus.

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00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 2>I do work. That's my job, not eat food.

901
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>There's no like you never get coffee or you get

902
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.400
<v Speaker 1>up and go get like an energy drink or anything like.

903
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I bring a nice coffee and I drink it.

904
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough.

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00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:57.079
<v Speaker 2>I will say. One of the funniest thing that that

906
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.719
<v Speaker 2>someone's ever said it my work is they is they

907
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>brought lunch every day, and they brought it in a

908
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 2>lunch box, and they got into an argument with someone

909
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and a day or two later, someone filled their lunch

910
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.360
<v Speaker 2>box with milk, right, and the person pulled out the

911
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 2>pulled out their lunch box and they go, oh, someone

912
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 2>creamed my box.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you know what, I have no comments

914
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:27.199
<v Speaker 1>on the situation.

915
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe that they said that. I thought it

916
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 2>was the funniest thing ever.

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00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>It's preposterous that someone would pour milk into someone's lunchbox.

918
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Didn't say. But then the response though, and then you're

919
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 1>waisting milk.

920
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I love milk.

921
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Too.

922
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite milk milk percentage?

923
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I drink whole. Now look at you, saucy boy.

924
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I think my mom used to buy two percent all

925
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the time growing up. But I think I like whole

926
00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>milk the best. But I never like buy a gallon

927
00:43:57.880 --> 00:43:58.159
<v Speaker 1>a home.

928
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I drank two in one growing up and

929
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 2>then my wife was like, no, let's drink Hall milk.

930
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't tell the difference. I don't know.

931
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you can tell the difference. And coffee. If I

932
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>do get dairy, it might be a little skim. I can't.

933
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Coffee's already gonna run through me. I can't add dairy

934
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to the factor.

935
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I can do a splash of cream. Don't put any

936
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 2>sugar in that, bitch.

937
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't do any crem I'll do maybe skim or

938
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:20.519
<v Speaker 1>some almond.

939
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I have never and even when I would eat at work,

940
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.760
<v Speaker 2>I would. I have never taken anything out of the

941
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>fridge that was not mine.

942
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think most people don't, but you have that

943
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 1>fringe ten percent of people that are in everyone's jobs

944
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that do these things. But there's also a difference between

945
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>like a packed lunch and like a soda camp. You

946
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:40.519
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

947
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Who took the Doritos out of my pack lunch.

948
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>They put pretzels in here. That's not a good trade

949
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 1>for me.

950
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:53.880
<v Speaker 2>They just did a whole swamp. What the shit? They

951
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 2>traded me a grape juice for my PEPSI.

952
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I get crape juice and pretzlos. This is bullshit.

953
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 2>That made the whole conversation worth it. Good work, guys, Mac.

954
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<v Speaker 1>Ready to go, Oh, I'm watching Sing Sing this weekend

969
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>because I'm getting Apple TV Plus tomorrow because Severance is

970
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>coming out, and so Sing Sing is like twelve dollars

971
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 1>cheaper to watch on Apple TV.

972
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say it's also back in theaters.

973
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Took alright. I will not be.

974
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Going that and the thumbs Dance that and the substance

975
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is back in theaters.

976
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I think i'll see next week.

977
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>People have been telling me that there's one other one. Maybe

978
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a skip, but I don't want to skip it.

979
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Really, who told you that?

980
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I forget I talked.

981
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess. I guess both of our attitudes having not

982
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>seen it yet, I guess speaks for itself. Flow. Also,

983
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to see that the best animated at the Globes.

984
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I also just watched Kneecap the other day, but it's

985
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix now. It's an Irish movie. I don't know

986
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.119
<v Speaker 1>how to describe it. It's not going to be for everyone.

987
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. I liked it more than a complete unknown.

988
00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, was it also about Bob Dylan?

989
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 1>No, but it is about this Irish rap group and

990
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 1>some of the strife going on in Ireland. That's pretty relevant.

991
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>How they weren't recognizing the Irish language as like an

992
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 1>official language. And so it's actually there's some there's a

993
00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:57.760
<v Speaker 1>good little story in there.

994
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>How is it pain?

995
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Not badneecap caps on Netflix if you're looking for something

996
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to watch, it's pretty.

997
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Good, alright. So Tuesdays or Goosdays. I Abuse Kangaroos, Tam Burton.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. Please flip the cassette over to side B to

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00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>continue the adventure.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines.