Speaker 1: Closing time.
Speaker 2: I've been gone for hours and it's time to close
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 1: Good notably an all time great Bob Dylan's song. Really
Speaker 1: good way to open up the podcast episode.
Speaker 2: But well, the reason why I'm doing it mac little
Speaker 2: topical news here for a little poly charged if you will.
Speaker 2: But TikTok is on the clock might be shutting down
Speaker 2: in just a couple days. And how does that tie
Speaker 2: into our topic. Well, Bob Dylan just joined TikTok this
Speaker 2: past Wednesday.
Speaker 1: What happens first TikTok officially gets banned or Bob Dylan dies.
Speaker 2: I think that TikTok might go away. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's really stupid if it does, really really stupid if
Speaker 1: it does. I learned last week when talking about this
Speaker 1: movie Yeah at work, that Bob don't still live.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's still very much alive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like eighty four years old. I thought he
Speaker 1: was dead.
Speaker 2: You didn't see him with Mumford and Song at the
Speaker 2: Sun at the Grammys a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Nope, Well maybe, but that was two years ago.
Speaker 2: That was like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: When you're in your eighties, a year is a dog year.
Speaker 1: It's like seven years, you make another year. It's it's
Speaker 1: a real accomplishment.
Speaker 2: Either way, though, Bob Dylan joining TikTok now would be
Speaker 2: like after the Titanic hit the iceberg and you like
Speaker 2: paraglide in and land on the deck and you're like,
Speaker 2: who was going on? Guys, got any cool news?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not great, not great timing, especially considering this movie
Speaker 1: came out three weeks ago. You would have thought he
Speaker 1: would have joined like a month ago.
Speaker 2: Because the first video that was posted was clearly done
Speaker 2: by someone else. It's a minute long and it's promoting
Speaker 2: his music and how he's now on TikTok. The other
Speaker 2: one is someone commented being like, you've only got thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: and it's a video of him going I better get
Speaker 2: out of here. So maybe that's it. Maybe he leaves
Speaker 2: TikTok before it closes.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's clearly not aloof and he has
Speaker 1: stood for a lot of things over his Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know d sears active here, but does he look
Speaker 1: the most aloof anyone's ever looked?
Speaker 2: On purpose?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, he's purposefully trying to look
Speaker 1: like that, Like he's the textbook definition of a loof
Speaker 1: the way he looks right, he's not well, maybe he
Speaker 1: is now.
Speaker 2: I don't even think he is now. I think he's
Speaker 2: still as sharp as an attack. You see him. You
Speaker 2: see when Chalomey did the dress up of him, when
Speaker 2: he had the blonde hair and the little mustache and goateee.
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with this topic, but it's
Speaker 2: like the substance.
Speaker 1: Oh there you go.
Speaker 2: One was younger than the other. Let's get back to
Speaker 2: TikTok here for a second. If it does go away,
Speaker 2: I'll say this to you people over there, all one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy of our followers, thank you for following us.
Speaker 2: The cellist is playing us off right now. But you
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Speaker 2: we have a podcast. You can listen to a full
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Speaker 1: This whole TikTok nonsense is a complete fucking witch hunt.
Speaker 1: It's so stupid, it's so dumb. I only joined TikTok
Speaker 1: maybe a year and a half, two years ago. I
Speaker 1: never really came back I spend all sorts of time
Speaker 1: on TikTok, but the whole I don't. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: get political here now, but this has been a complete
Speaker 1: and utter witch hunt. What a joke this has been.
Speaker 2: We'll all be proven right one good three? Yeah, job three,
Speaker 2: King of Queen Mill Street, entertaining time. Go and I'm
Speaker 2: Mac and we are the Mac and You program. We
Speaker 2: bring you friendship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, friendship in the form of a completely unknown podcast. Huh.
Speaker 2: Now we're pretty known. I think everyone knows exactly what
Speaker 2: we're gonna say today.
Speaker 1: We are discussing the Bobby Zimmerman biopic, a complete unknown,
Speaker 1: that's right, the Bob Dylan movie. Dare I say not? Okay,
Speaker 1: So going into a biopiccou Yeah, you're expecting you know,
Speaker 1: one of two things. One it captures a moment, a
Speaker 1: glimpse in like the Rise of the Artist. Or two
Speaker 1: it's like a whole life spanning thing. This one is
Speaker 1: the first one. But when you do the first one,
Speaker 1: you gotta have some real highs, and this movie just
Speaker 1: doesn't have them.
Speaker 2: You don't think playing an electric guitar is a high.
Speaker 1: I don't think strumming an electric guitar at the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty five Newport Folkfest is is really what the people
Speaker 1: are looking for.
Speaker 2: I mean that was age huge cultural touchstone moment. Though
Speaker 2: I do understand that, which is really funny though, because
Speaker 2: like people of that age are like, yeah, you guys
Speaker 2: complain about the stupidest stuff. Well, Bob Dylan played an
Speaker 2: electric guitar and you guys all lost your minds.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're tomatoes at it. Yeah. Cinematically that plays out
Speaker 1: poorly is not the word, just like so anti climatically
Speaker 1: like this movie. Timothy Shallow may don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: he deserves every accolade he may or may not get.
Speaker 1: He's nominated for a bunch of shit. He's what carries
Speaker 1: this movie and carries in the in the the highest
Speaker 1: sense of the word. Because this movie's pretty boring, pretty boring.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's not boring. No, so I fun no, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's no highs. Look you're not you're not rooting for
Speaker 1: or against anything.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the fact that we have a nice tight
Speaker 2: window of when he starts and then as he hits
Speaker 2: the zenith of his popularity. I think you have an
Speaker 2: air that it's a four year window.
Speaker 1: Correct yeah, technically so it starts in sixty one ends
Speaker 1: in sixty five, so five fullest years.
Speaker 2: And it also doesn't pull any punches of the fact
Speaker 2: that Bob Dylan's an asshole.
Speaker 1: So number one, they make him somewhat of an asshole.
Speaker 1: That's true. Number two, Goo, let's get through the nuts
Speaker 1: and bolts. Actually, let before we dive into what this
Speaker 1: movie did and didn't do. Let's get to the nuts
Speaker 1: and bolts. Because I have a like a small gripe,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a Bob Dylan guy. You're not a
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2: I like Bob Dylan, do you really? I don't love
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan. I like Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: I love two Bob Dylan songs. On the whole, I
Speaker 1: don't care for him. I recognize the significance songwriting wise,
Speaker 1: one of the all time greats, maybe the greatest songwriter ever.
Speaker 1: I do not care for his voice. So going into this,
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting to love this.
Speaker 2: I have spoken with two people who love Bob Dylan
Speaker 2: and have seen this movie, one of them being my
Speaker 2: father in law, who thought the portrayals by all the
Speaker 2: actors were spot on. He said that every mannerism was
Speaker 2: nailed by every single actor. That was echoed by a
Speaker 2: second person that also love Bob Dylan and usually hates
Speaker 2: the fact when a biopic biopic, I just said it
Speaker 2: completely wrong.
Speaker 1: I said, biopeds biopic, whatever you say, biopic people off.
Speaker 2: But he had said he usually hates when they take
Speaker 2: liberties and like anything is off from what the truth is.
Speaker 2: And he said that that the movie made sense, the
Speaker 2: stretches of the truth made sense for this storytelling, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So riddle me this. Then, Goo in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: five when he plays Newport Folk Festival.
Speaker 2: I wasn't alive.
Speaker 1: No, neither of us were for another twenty three years,
Speaker 1: answers your question. Four years. He gets married, Goo to
Speaker 1: his first wife in nineteen sixty five. It has four
Speaker 1: kids with her. There's no mention of her in this movie.
Speaker 1: She's not at all brought up in this movie. So
Speaker 1: they took some liberties. She's completely omitted from this film.
Speaker 1: They don't bring her up whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was a thing, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, there you go. So I was a little
Speaker 1: bothered by that, but I digress. Goo, a complete unknown,
Speaker 1: has been in theater since Christmas so it's on its
Speaker 1: third week now, I think, going into its fourth week,
Speaker 1: it's made fifty two point four million at the box office,
Speaker 1: just sixteen thousand internationally. So what did it cost just
Speaker 1: a US release? GOI reportedly the budget for this movie
Speaker 1: fifty to seventy million.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna lose money. It might make back
Speaker 1: the budget, but the marketing that tied end, let's say
Speaker 1: even conservatively doubled, it's probably one hundred and ten hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty.
Speaker 2: Make it back in DVD sales.
Speaker 1: So this movie is gonna lose money. I think maybe
Speaker 1: in part because Bob Dylan's not so popular.
Speaker 2: No he is. I think that the way this is
Speaker 2: gonna work, no one talks.
Speaker 1: About Bob Dylan the way they do the Beatles, though,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: No, pretty similar, It's no. No, people people say the
Speaker 2: greatest American songwriter is Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: People do not talk about Bob Dylan the way they
Speaker 1: talk about the Beatles.
Speaker 2: That's because people can't can't shut up about the Beatles.
Speaker 1: No, but when you're talking about cultural significance, Goo, the
Speaker 1: box office is the perfect number right there. It might
Speaker 1: make seventy million domestically, it's gonna make no money international,
Speaker 1: So what you're telling a worldwide stock.
Speaker 2: But that Bob Dylan is more important than Robbie Anderson.
Speaker 1: He doesn't, that's not even the name. But I don't
Speaker 1: even care for James Robbie Williams.
Speaker 2: Bobby Anderson is the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He he doesn't have the worldwide appeal that you probably
Speaker 1: want when you're making a biopick. In the very same
Speaker 1: way Robbie Williams doesn't. Two misfires. I think two okay stories.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know people have acted well, but it's
Speaker 1: just it's a complete misfire in my eyes. And again
Speaker 1: I recognize the significance of Bob Dylan. That said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to watch a Bob Dylan biopick. I might
Speaker 1: stomach a documentary like he grew up, you know, in
Speaker 1: the sixties, when there was a lot of shit going
Speaker 1: on socially. And that's another thing they didn't get into
Speaker 1: enough goo in this movie, is they they don't talk
Speaker 1: about how socially relevant he became during all those movements
Speaker 1: in the sixties. They just glossed over it. And that
Speaker 1: was a little frustrating because that's the most interesting part
Speaker 1: of his.
Speaker 2: Time Rolling Stones, Rolling Stone the magazine, not the band.
Speaker 2: One hundred Greatest Songwriters of All Time at number one.
Speaker 2: This is a watch Mojo list. Now, Bob Dylan, I
Speaker 2: just said that three minutes ago. You might consider I'm
Speaker 2: the greatest songwriter of all time. That doesn't change the
Speaker 2: fact that no one talks about Bob Dylan the way
Speaker 2: they talk about the Beatles, The Stones, even Queen a
Speaker 2: biopick that did tremendously better than this. So you're judging
Speaker 2: his all off box office.
Speaker 1: I think you really have to consider, like, why would
Speaker 1: you make this movie? What were they projecting for this movie?
Speaker 1: If it's a seventy million dollar budget, why would and
Speaker 1: you think you might make seventy What are you doing?
Speaker 2: I just think because it happened so long ago now,
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, because give me the documentary. Because they're
Speaker 2: making the Beatle Verse movies with the four Beatles movies.
Speaker 2: How much better those even do?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but at least that has a chance
Speaker 1: because that's a worldwide appeal. Again, give me the documentary,
Speaker 1: and we've got a couple of Beatles documentaries we don't have,
Speaker 1: like the the defined Bob Dylan documentary. Probably I'm much
Speaker 1: more interested than that, and it would cost way less
Speaker 1: to make and probably make as much as this fucking movie. Anyways.
Speaker 1: All right, so this is now sitting as the eleventh
Speaker 1: highest grossing biopic ever. I'm sure they were expecting more
Speaker 1: than that. It might finish in the top ten. Who knows.
Speaker 1: It is an R rated biography drama and music sub
Speaker 1: genres here go docu drama, period drama. I do think
Speaker 1: they captured nineteen sixties New York City pretty well.
Speaker 2: May I recommend a documentary to you right now. It's
Speaker 2: by Martin Scorsese. It's called No Direction Home. It's about
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: There you go, which makes sense when we get to
Speaker 1: the writers in a second. This is a runtime of
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one minutes. It moves along decently well,
Speaker 1: but I have to say, when there was about an
Speaker 1: hour left, I'm like, this isn't really going anywhere, Like
Speaker 1: it didn't have the build up you really needed for
Speaker 1: like a great final act. And that was just a
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointment.
Speaker 2: The character that I really liked, and I had no
Speaker 2: knowledge of her prior to this, I didn't like I
Speaker 2: knew who Bob Dylan was, I knew who Joan Biez was,
Speaker 2: but uh Sylby Russo, I wanted more of her. I
Speaker 2: wanted more of a story there.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the other thing too, which I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know who she is el fan movie, El Fantas.
Speaker 1: She did a good joke. Apparently her real name is
Speaker 1: Susie Russo. So did she not give them the rights?
Speaker 2: I mean she has went by Silby No.
Speaker 1: I think they changed it for the movie.
Speaker 2: Was it a Janis jop chop situation?
Speaker 1: A good had one hundred and forty one minutes. It
Speaker 1: does feel a bit long by the end because you're
Speaker 1: sort of just waiting for that papal moment and it
Speaker 1: doesn't have it. On roddy teaz seventy eight percent from
Speaker 1: the critics, ninety six percent from the audience, and on
Speaker 1: Metacritic of seventy one. So I actually feel like the
Speaker 1: critics have actually nailed what this is. I think it's
Speaker 1: in that you know, sea range where it's like paid
Speaker 1: by numbers biopick with a really good performance, and to me,
Speaker 1: that's like completely.
Speaker 2: I think there's more than just one good performance though.
Speaker 2: This is a well acted movie.
Speaker 1: Sure, but it's in the biopick. All you really care
Speaker 1: about is the person the movie's about. If that's done, well,
Speaker 1: that's that's all anyone, from what I've heard, does The jobs.
Speaker 2: By Edward Norton as Pete Seeger is one of the best,
Speaker 2: not impressions, but like portrayals of someone where you think
Speaker 2: it's actually them.
Speaker 1: Who cares about Pete Seeger. Goo, That's that's sort of
Speaker 1: what I'm getting into here. You don't care about Pete Seeger.
Speaker 1: I don't care about Pete Seeger. Your father in law
Speaker 1: does great. This movie's gonna lose my My father.
Speaker 2: In law knew who was on the fucking keyboard during
Speaker 2: the during the jam sessions.
Speaker 1: They should have made this movie twenty five years ago, Goo,
Speaker 1: when Walk the Line was made, they should have made this.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Walk the Line, I love when Johnny Cash
Speaker 2: shows up in this. Yeah, someone made the point of
Speaker 2: it's like an Oppenheimer. When Einstein shows up, Everyone's like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, it's Einstein.
Speaker 1: This movie is speaking of Walk the Line written by
Speaker 1: James Mangold, Jay Cox Nice, hold On, hold On, Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: James man Gold and James Cox, based on the book
Speaker 1: Dylan Goes Electric by Elijah Wald. We know James Mangold,
Speaker 1: but to give you some of his writing background. Oliver
Speaker 1: and Company. One of Goo's favorites, cop Land, underrated movie,
Speaker 1: Girl Interrupted, underrated movie, Walk the Line That's properly rated.
Speaker 1: I think everyone kind of loves that movie. Logan is
Speaker 1: one of our favorites of all time. Indiana Jones and
Speaker 1: The Dial of Destiny is the last one he wrote
Speaker 1: before this. Not coming off a peak, go upcoming a movie.
Speaker 1: He's both writing and directing Star Wars Down of the Jedi,
Speaker 1: a story that has set twenty five thousand years before
Speaker 1: in New Hope and focuses on the discovery of the Force.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. I'm in on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that he wanted the Star Wars story
Speaker 2: that had no ties to anything Goo.
Speaker 1: You brought up Scorsese earlier. Jay Cox is a noted
Speaker 1: scorsece writer on his movies Age of Innocence, Silence, Gangs
Speaker 1: of New York. He also helmed or penned the Catherine
Speaker 1: Bigelow movie Strange Days. So he's been known and around
Speaker 1: for thirty forty years. Upcoming, he's he's written something called
Speaker 1: The Last of the Savages. So if you're if you're
Speaker 1: into his stuff, there you go. Directed again by James Mangold.
Speaker 1: He directed all those movies I just talked about on
Speaker 1: top of Identity three, Tender Yuma, The Wolverine, Ford Versus Ferrari.
Speaker 1: So James Mangold has had a pretty great career. Actually,
Speaker 1: I believe this movie moved him into the It was
Speaker 1: either the top thirty or top forty all time of
Speaker 1: highest grossing directors. So he's, you know, he's still got
Speaker 1: plenty of career ahead of him. He just his it
Speaker 1: seems like he's I'm looking forward to the Star Wars movie.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I almost feel like he's a
Speaker 1: little overrated because after Logan talked about him as like
Speaker 1: he had touched the sun right and I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: Ford Verus Ferrari was great. But if you're looking at
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff here, like I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like this movie was the perfect opportunity for a director
Speaker 1: as known as as great as James Mangold is to
Speaker 1: put his touch on it and instead, because the due
Speaker 1: of the source material, at least what they showed us
Speaker 1: in this movie is not very interesting.
Speaker 2: It does just feel like an ordinary biopic. It doesn't
Speaker 2: chance to get up.
Speaker 1: A notch, and he didn't. Maybe he tried and it
Speaker 1: got shot down. But I was waiting for like that
Speaker 1: Mangold like I don't know, excitement, and it just never
Speaker 1: came in this movie.
Speaker 2: Our buddy formerly of the Boxer's podcast, Wesley burho Uh,
Speaker 2: usually describes James Mangold movies as dad movies and.
Speaker 1: Very apt for this one. Yeah, my so speaking of
Speaker 1: so your father in law, my father's a little younger,
Speaker 1: my father still in his fifties. Not a Dylan guy,
Speaker 1: like doesn't hate Dylan, just not a Dylan guy. Had
Speaker 1: no really interesting going to see this Opta tocy wicked instead,
Speaker 1: So like even the dads like I because Dylan is
Speaker 1: a divisive figure and they show that somewhat in this movie.
Speaker 1: But there was just never like, there was never something
Speaker 1: super entertaining.
Speaker 2: So you wanted them to get more into like like
Speaker 2: the civil discourse.
Speaker 1: Yes, because that's way more interesting than the fucking Newport
Speaker 1: folk Festival.
Speaker 2: But what don't you get about this is that if
Speaker 2: he played electric guitar at the folk festival, then no
Speaker 2: one would like folk music anymore.
Speaker 1: And I get that they're basing it off a book
Speaker 1: based off of that, but it's a Bob Dylan biopic,
Speaker 1: so put more stuff in it other than just his
Speaker 1: trials and tribulations at the fucking Newport Folk Festival. Like
Speaker 1: it was kind of frustrating. And as someone that doesn't
Speaker 1: know a ton about Bob Dylan, I really didn't learn
Speaker 1: much about him in this movie.
Speaker 2: Did you like the amount of music played?
Speaker 1: I thought the best part of this movie was that
Speaker 1: the music wasn't overwhelming. And it also they didn't like
Speaker 1: break into some every now and then. Bob Dylan musician
Speaker 1: just played music everything he.
Speaker 2: Didn't like start singing on the street and shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I actually I appreciated that aspect of this movie.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone wants something from him, you know, because
Speaker 2: he's a big still a synopsis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, In nineteen sixty one, an unknown nineteen year old
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan arrives in.
Speaker 2: New York City, a complete unknown if you will.
Speaker 1: Oh, and Forger's relationships with music icons on his meteoric rise,
Speaker 1: culminating in a groundbreaking performance that reverberates worldwide. Also, and again,
Speaker 1: I think the movie's terrible. What was the Queen biopick,
Speaker 1: the Freddie Murphy biop Bohaemian rahaps a Day Mercury. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that culminates in Live a Right, and that's a
Speaker 1: pretty fantastic experience. And of course there's tons of footage
Speaker 1: of that as well. But I think they were going
Speaker 1: for something like that here and then it just just
Speaker 1: didn't land.
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan's only five foot seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's why Timothy Shallamy.
Speaker 2: Is Timothy Schalame is five foot ten.
Speaker 1: No, how about that? How tall is John bia give
Speaker 1: this movie stars as Bob Dylan aka Robert Zimmerman, that
Speaker 1: is his government name. Edward Norton as Pete Seeger, who
Speaker 1: goose father in law loved. Edward Norton did a great job.
Speaker 1: I just don't give a fuck about Pete Seeger. I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone does. El Fanning as Sylvie Russo. She
Speaker 1: was very good to me. She was showing the most
Speaker 1: range in this movie. I really appreciated her character. Monica
Speaker 1: Barabo as Joan Baiez, another very popular folk singer in
Speaker 1: the early sixties. Boyd Holbrook is Johnny Cash, who essentially
Speaker 1: is Dylan's idol and then contemporary. I thought he did a.
Speaker 1: He played Johnny Cash about as understated as you can
Speaker 1: to not take away from the main.
Speaker 2: No, there was the one scene of him trying to
Speaker 2: pull his car out that got a little cartoonish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's about as understated as you
Speaker 1: can play Johnny Cash. Based on his life and time.
Speaker 2: I was playing Johnny Cash, I would just start saying
Speaker 2: all of his song lyric by accidents.
Speaker 1: Pete Seeger's wife, Toshi Segar was played by Erko Hatsune.
Speaker 1: She did a very nice job. And then we get
Speaker 1: Scoot mcnairy's Woody Guthrie and this gu I thought, now, listen,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to play someone who is, you know,
Speaker 1: on their deathbed and is riddled with something. I thought
Speaker 1: I did an unbelievable job. Was great. The three scenes
Speaker 1: we got him, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are really good scenes him and Dylan in
Speaker 2: the hospital and Dylan talking to him, but also just
Speaker 2: kind of talking to no one it was or playing
Speaker 2: for him and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It showed and humanized Dylan a little bit,
Speaker 1: which the film needed because they you're right, and they
Speaker 1: they show how how big of an asshole he is
Speaker 1: at certain points. But he didn't have a big assholeish
Speaker 1: moment in the movie either like it.
Speaker 2: Was no because even even the one part on the
Speaker 2: street where the girl says to him, but I love you,
Speaker 2: and then he looks at He's like I just met you,
Speaker 2: so like you're on his side. So like at first
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, like how long does it? This was
Speaker 2: after a little break in time, like how long had
Speaker 2: he been with her? But then immediately this is like
Speaker 2: their first date.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, this movie encompasses, encompasses Dylan's rise to fame,
Speaker 1: the meteoric rise it culminates, you know, the final fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes is his performance at Newport Folk Festival in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty five, where he uses an electric guitar and a
Speaker 1: full band, which, if you know anything about folk music
Speaker 1: is taboo, especially in nineteen sixty five. And I get
Speaker 1: how prominent and how you know, big that was in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five. I just didn't feel like that came
Speaker 1: across all that much in this movie. You just had
Speaker 1: like the festival planners I said about it.
Speaker 2: Trying to chop down a board with an axe.
Speaker 1: I am perturbed, Goo, because again I'm not a big
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan guy. But like we get it. Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: had four kids, and it was married for like fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty years, and they got married in nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 1: So I get why they ended up where they did
Speaker 1: in one respect, but at the same time to like
Speaker 1: not bring any of that up at all.
Speaker 2: Well, once you play electric guitar at a folk festival,
Speaker 2: your career is over. It is now time to move
Speaker 2: on and work at the steel mill and have children.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just I think that was dumb.
Speaker 1: And again, I'm perfectly fine with biopicks being just snapshots
Speaker 1: of someone's rise. I maybe prefer in some respects, but
Speaker 1: this just did like the rise of Bob Dylan was
Speaker 1: not that interesting. It just wasn't. He just played Newport
Speaker 1: Folk Festival a couple times and then played electric guitar
Speaker 1: in nights in sixty five. And I get the historic
Speaker 1: significance of it, But as a fucking movie and a
Speaker 1: story that's not very interesting.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little more interesting than what
Speaker 2: you're giving forth right now. I thought it was. I
Speaker 2: thought it was a solid bio pick. I thought that
Speaker 2: there were really good performances in it. I like how
Speaker 2: short the story is as well. I don't need their
Speaker 2: entire they were born, they were a child, and then
Speaker 2: they died. I'm cool with the Yes, it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: have like the highest peak to it, but it's a
Speaker 2: pretty solid valley.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, in this day and age, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna invest seventy million into a biopick, it better
Speaker 1: be fucking interesting and worth it and unique like and
Speaker 1: this is why. And I think you appreciate this as well.
Speaker 1: When we talk about Taron Edgerton as Elton John, how
Speaker 1: awesome that was because it was such a unique take
Speaker 1: on a biopick and it fit the artist so well.
Speaker 1: Like that movie is what people should be striving to
Speaker 1: make when they make biopicks.
Speaker 2: But I also really loved the NWA one, and that's
Speaker 2: kind of a straightforward biopick.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. I'm just it just sometimes like if if
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, it comes off as lazy, and this
Speaker 1: feels a little lazy. Mm.
Speaker 2: I slightly disagree, but I know what you're talking about. Okay,
Speaker 2: should we do the Octagon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get through the octagon fun factor.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of songs that I knew.
Speaker 1: There actually wasn't a lot of songs.
Speaker 2: Really, you didn't know a lot of those songs.
Speaker 1: I think I knew three songs. Not much fun in
Speaker 1: this movie. I would have preferred more of the social
Speaker 1: strife or the relationship back and forth. We just got
Speaker 1: too much of the Newport Folk Festival, so I.
Speaker 2: Think the reason why, and obviously they just wanted to
Speaker 2: focus on like that's what the story was. But I
Speaker 2: think if you focused on the social stuff, would that
Speaker 2: split audiences.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the box office number. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would have mattered.
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever satisfactor. No. I was hoping that
Speaker 2: we were building towards something else. But I should have
Speaker 2: known going in, because that's what this movie was about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it tells you from from the jump, and
Speaker 1: it builds towards that. About halfway through, you know how
Speaker 1: this is gonna culminate, and it just like it just
Speaker 1: doesn't satisfy the viewer.
Speaker 2: Even at the beginning of the movie. Wait, was this
Speaker 2: in the movie or did my father in law whisper
Speaker 2: this to me that he Pete Seeger says very early
Speaker 2: on that he hates electric instruments.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I caught it. Did he say
Speaker 1: that you got that you got that vibe anyway.
Speaker 2: But wasn't whispered to me in my ear.
Speaker 1: It may have may have been whispered for you, but
Speaker 1: you got that vibe for sure.
Speaker 2: You also did feel that he was willing to bend,
Speaker 2: not break on it, but then by the end he
Speaker 2: would not give in.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's your biggest start. Just let him do
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck he wants. Right If you're hosting a
Speaker 2: folk festival and you get Bob Dylan there and Bob
Speaker 2: Dylan wants to take a shit in a hat, you say, Bob,
Speaker 2: you want a hat? Do you give him your hat?
Speaker 1: I would like to see did he speak to the
Speaker 1: accuracy of who was more popular at the time, Johnny
Speaker 1: Cash or Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2: I did not ask, but I think in that circle
Speaker 2: it would be Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's see here borometer. I thought it was pretty even throughout,
Speaker 2: like it would I don't think there were any super highs,
Speaker 2: but there weren't. He lows It's consistent.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, and that's why I feel like this
Speaker 1: is I guess, maybe not lazy, but really average movie.
Speaker 1: Like the pacing was done well seemed to scene. It
Speaker 1: was solid. It was kind of boring just because there
Speaker 1: was no high highs. There was nothing to like get
Speaker 1: real jazzed up about or much to talk about at
Speaker 1: the end of the movie. But yeah, like baseline, the
Speaker 1: pulse was decent.
Speaker 2: Like when they brought Sylbe back into the movie early
Speaker 2: third act, I'm like, oh, I'm interested to see what
Speaker 2: she does. You know what she does. She leaves nothing. No,
Speaker 2: she leaves nothing, instantly leaves. Yeah, kind of disappointed with that.
Speaker 2: Having no knowledge of any of their lives. I was
Speaker 2: hoping for something a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And don't get me wrong, like I guess, get
Speaker 1: me wrong. I don't give a fuck, Like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: spend you've been wrong this entire time.
Speaker 2: It's okay, we.
Speaker 1: Spend over two hours with this character. A lot of
Speaker 1: people our age don't know much of anything about him,
Speaker 1: and so you become somewhat invested in this character and
Speaker 1: you want to see what ends up happening to this
Speaker 1: character instead of having to google stuff at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie and so like not showing him becoming
Speaker 1: a family man after.
Speaker 2: Yet over the family man stuff.
Speaker 1: That's movie again, No, but that's significant to Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: because he's so anti establishment in this and that and whatever,
Speaker 1: Like it's a significant thing that it becomes a family
Speaker 1: man for twenty years, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like, okay, So what Mac wanted was before
Speaker 2: he goes on stage with his electric guitar, he looks
Speaker 2: over at Pete and he says, after this, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go settle down.
Speaker 1: No, but I at least want to see him meet
Speaker 1: his wife and give us a little bit, like a
Speaker 1: little crumbs down that path. And it's just not there.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's that interesting.
Speaker 1: It's more interesting than the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2: I disagree. Him becoming a parent is not interesting.
Speaker 1: No, it's not him necessarily becoming a parent.
Speaker 2: It's him change on a family sitcom with Bob Dylan
Speaker 2: as the dad.
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan fundamentally changing is what I'm getting at, And
Speaker 1: they don't show you.
Speaker 2: Look, I agree with you that it would have been
Speaker 2: more interesting if you look at if you look at
Speaker 2: his politics and that type of stuff. I don't agree
Speaker 2: with you about him being a family man. I don't
Speaker 2: care about that.
Speaker 1: You're missing the fucking point. That whole movie shows how
Speaker 1: big of an asshole he is. And how he doesn't
Speaker 1: value human connections and even at the end there's he's like,
Speaker 1: h doesn't say bye, And then instantly in real life
Speaker 1: in that year, he got fucking married and had four
Speaker 1: kids with this woman.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has a husband and as a father, and
Speaker 2: I don't know this he's the exact same guy.
Speaker 1: I guess that's a possibility. Gu but the fact that
Speaker 1: it's not mentioned is insane.
Speaker 2: And that's the beauty of this movie. It leaves you guessing.
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't because it's not interesting enough.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that Bad Man Halloween.
Speaker 1: That's annoying.
Speaker 2: Well, this movie Wayne Overtime.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm never watching this movie ever again.
Speaker 2: Lemonade. When life gives you plemons, you make plemonade. And
Speaker 2: I will go with Eddie Norton.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go with Scoop McNary. He brought
Speaker 1: some emotion to those scenes. He jumped over our Quada world.
Speaker 1: This movie. This movie floats because of Timothy Shaloman. He
Speaker 1: does an amazing job.
Speaker 2: But I don't like there are other biopics where the
Speaker 2: lead actor like you feel it the whole time. You're like,
Speaker 2: this guy is gonna win an Academy Award. This doesn't
Speaker 2: feel like that for Shells.
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I don't think he's a shoe. And then,
Speaker 1: and actually I was thinking about that when the movie
Speaker 1: was over. I was like, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the best. I don't even know if it's the best
Speaker 1: Timothy Shallomey performance I saw.
Speaker 2: Dune, Give Me du He's better in Duke, Give Me do.
Speaker 1: Better in Doune. Yeah, but it's also because Bob Dylan's
Speaker 1: a bit of an eccentric and a cartoon character in
Speaker 1: his own right. It's really hard to play that character,
Speaker 1: which is why I'm giving him credit.
Speaker 2: Pants Den City, Excite, Mike Mania, what Gut You Going?
Speaker 1: Nothing doesn't have the standout moment. There's no highs in
Speaker 1: general in this It's not lustful, it's not sexy, it's
Speaker 1: not fun. There's no like even you know. And maybe
Speaker 1: this is because I'm not a Bob Dylan guy. Musically, like,
Speaker 1: there's no foot stomping, toe tapping type of thing along
Speaker 1: the way, like the way that a lot of musical
Speaker 1: biopicks are. It's just this movie just exists with really
Speaker 1: good acting. That's that's it.
Speaker 2: I think some of the music when you start to
Speaker 2: hear him getting into one of his famous songs, You're like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I know this one, and then they sing
Speaker 2: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: The most gleeful part of the movie is the first
Speaker 1: time you hear the dude play the organ in the
Speaker 1: in the studio. Yea for like a rolling stone. That's
Speaker 1: probably the best part.
Speaker 2: All right, Mac, you've already gone to your credit union, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Timothy Shallon May He's If he wasn't good,
Speaker 1: this movie would be god awful.
Speaker 2: For those of you tarty to the Mac and Goo party.
Speaker 2: We rate everything on a forty hot dog rating system. Mac,
Speaker 2: what did you think of Bob Dylan Colin movie?
Speaker 1: So I'm about six hours removed from having seen this.
Speaker 1: You've seen it, sorry, almost a month ago, so you're
Speaker 1: more comfortable with how you feel about it. This for
Speaker 1: me felt like a really classic Paint by Numbers biopick.
Speaker 1: It didn't take any chances. There's barely any struggle or
Speaker 1: anything to keep you interested. There's nothing overtly fun or
Speaker 1: like juicy in the way you'd expect in one of
Speaker 1: these biopicks about a famous musician. There's nothing in here
Speaker 1: that you're like, ooh, I learned this about Bob Dolan today.
Speaker 1: It just feels really plain, really average, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: what suits Bob doan, but that's probably not right because
Speaker 1: of the legacy he has. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: pretty met like without the performance of Timoey's Sellamey. I
Speaker 1: I don't think this floats. So I don't know like it.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad movie. It's just like disappointing. I
Speaker 1: guess it's when you get into biopics, like you really
Speaker 1: got to crush it for me to love the movie.
Speaker 1: So I think I left it like thirty thirty one
Speaker 1: hot Dogs and I might be at like twenty eight
Speaker 1: twenty nine right now, so it's probably in the twenties
Speaker 1: for me. I think I've seen fifty three movies now
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four. It's I'm gonna go I'll go
Speaker 1: thirty hot Dogs on the nose, give it a seventy
Speaker 1: five ish, But I feel like tomorrow I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: at twenty eight.
Speaker 2: You just said a word that struck a chord with me,
Speaker 2: a guitar string if you will. This movie does lack struggle.
Speaker 2: There's no struggle to it. No, it's all up.
Speaker 1: Yes, he doesn't get knocked down at all.
Speaker 2: There's no fucking tumbawamba.
Speaker 1: And again that might be very true, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: make for an interesting story.
Speaker 2: So maybe the more interesting story is, you know, how
Speaker 2: we start with him getting to New Jersey, maybe the
Speaker 2: five years prior to that, that's the more interesting story
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 1: We don't get any background.
Speaker 2: He claims that he's a circus freak, Like how did
Speaker 2: he end up getting to New Jersey and catching his
Speaker 2: break there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, give us twenty five minutes of him getting his
Speaker 1: ass kicked in the circus or whatever, people hating him,
Speaker 1: people his family doesn't like him, and then he moves
Speaker 1: to the big city and makes it, And then that's
Speaker 1: built in more of a rooting interest.
Speaker 2: In the five years prior, like how did he become
Speaker 2: such a wordsmith? How did he become such a poet?
Speaker 2: Because he just shows up and he's already that.
Speaker 1: Which, again, like I think the mistake from the jump
Speaker 1: was choosing just that one book to go off of,
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about Bob Don't here again like significant
Speaker 1: figure in music history, and he gave us a four
Speaker 1: or five year window snapshot where nothing went wrong.
Speaker 2: For I guess because even at the end, like he
Speaker 2: he has no thoughts of like, Okay, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: play the electric guitar now, He's just gonna do There's
Speaker 2: no recushions.
Speaker 1: He just stops on it.
Speaker 2: He has no second thought about it, about anything really,
Speaker 2: Like even when he's when he's playing the duets with
Speaker 2: Joan and he's like, I'm not gonna play this song.
Speaker 2: My guitar is broken, my microphone's broken. Sorry about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there is no issues for him in this movie.
Speaker 1: Which is why, like I'm annoyed with James Mangold too,
Speaker 1: because he is such a good director that you would
Speaker 1: have thought there would have been a nice spinning here.
Speaker 1: And he's one of the writers as well, something in
Speaker 1: the script where he could have made this a more
Speaker 1: interesting movie. I get like, you're trying to tell a
Speaker 1: pretty true story, but I don't know, man, Like, at
Speaker 1: some point you gotta grip us in somehow.
Speaker 2: I think I understand now that if you set this
Speaker 2: movie ten years after these events, and you know, he
Speaker 2: was the biggest music star in the world and now
Speaker 2: he's a stay at home dad, it's Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: But it is more interesting just inherently just think about it,
Speaker 1: Like someone with a wife of four kids. It's much
Speaker 1: harder to be a very famous musician when you're single
Speaker 1: and twenty four years old. It's really easy. It's very easy.
Speaker 2: I have this at thirty one, hot Dogs, Mac.
Speaker 1: Okay, I yeah, I'm gonna go give me twenty nine,
Speaker 1: give me twenty.
Speaker 2: Nine, twenty nine. I have this ranked let's see here,
Speaker 2: thirteenth on the year.
Speaker 1: Wow, Jesus again, it had been a great year. That's
Speaker 1: pretty high for a thirty one though.
Speaker 2: No, no, so it's after like my old ass, the
Speaker 2: bike Rider's Furio, some monkey Man, Twisters, Planet of the Apes,
Speaker 2: all those.
Speaker 1: I believe it was twenty when I had it at
Speaker 1: thirty thirty one. Yeah, so if I bump into twenty nine,
Speaker 1: this just comes in at like twenty eight. Here's a
Speaker 1: question for you. This's your gladiator too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like this better than Glady. This is a more
Speaker 2: concise story, This is a better told story.
Speaker 1: This might be this might be a little better. So
Speaker 1: I have gladiated to at twenty nine. So maybe this
Speaker 1: is thirty or maybe a better twenty nine. Mac.
Speaker 2: If I were to ask you right now, though I
Speaker 2: know that you said you're not a bob Dylan guy,
Speaker 2: I get it. Can you give me a six pack
Speaker 2: of Bob Dylan songs?
Speaker 1: So? I think his best song is the Hurricane about
Speaker 1: Rubyn Hurricane Carter. I think that's his best song. No
Speaker 1: one ever says it is because they always say like
Speaker 1: a Rolling Stone is the greatest song of all time,
Speaker 1: or they always point to how Watchtower, even though Hendricks
Speaker 1: made his own thing, Bob Dylan did write it. Like
Speaker 1: a Rolling Stone does have a really like gospelish feel.
Speaker 1: Is very cool. I really really like that song watched Ower.
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll scream it from the highest mountain top.
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews band does the best version of that song.
Speaker 1: Hendrix is incredible.
Speaker 2: You think Dave Matthews is a better version than Hendrix?
Speaker 2: Oh my God, let me give you a hat? You
Speaker 2: go shit in a hat?
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan's Bob Dylan's version of all Along the Watchtower
Speaker 1: sounds like he's getting attacked by a cat.
Speaker 2: Who is to say he isn't. I don't know where
Speaker 2: he was recording.
Speaker 1: Those might be the only three Bob Dylan songs. I
Speaker 1: like Watchtower, Hurricane, and uh rolling Stone. You can ask
Speaker 1: me gool, can you give me a six pack of
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan songs.
Speaker 2: I do really like his version of All Along the Watchtower.
Speaker 2: Hendrix's version is better, but I do like this. I
Speaker 2: like this version better than the Dave Matthews version the
Speaker 2: Hurricane was it nine and a half ten minutes long?
Speaker 2: That's like that, what a bomb? It's so such a
Speaker 2: great story told and everything else.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned this, I jokingly said this to you
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, with the best Bob Dylan
Speaker 1: movie is Hurricane, starring Dozel Washington. I'm right, Oh, I'm right.
Speaker 1: That movie is better than this.
Speaker 2: But what about the one where he's played by Kate Blanchette.
Speaker 2: It's played by seven different actors. Actually, that's an that's
Speaker 2: an interesting story, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, Blowing
Speaker 2: in the Wind, I like that one, like a rolling stone,
Speaker 2: the times they are.
Speaker 1: A change in that one's okay. Yeah, I like.
Speaker 2: Mister tambourine Man. I'm not ashamed to say that I might.
Speaker 1: Like mister tambourine Man as well.
Speaker 2: That was and there ain't no places I'm going to
Speaker 2: so thirty one. I'm pretty good with that. I like
Speaker 2: the movie, but I'm you're right, can anyone out there
Speaker 2: tell us was there any conflict in this movie for him?
Speaker 2: Obviously everyone around him had conflict.
Speaker 1: And you know it's very because of him, I guess.
Speaker 2: But he's also the reason why they were there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, true. This is one of the rare movies
Speaker 1: that has done pretty well, you know, critics and audience wise,
Speaker 1: that I haven't heard like anyone talk about online. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of chatter about a lot
Speaker 1: of movies in the last few weeks. And although you know,
Speaker 1: there's been movies like Wicked and Anor that have a
Speaker 1: lot of dominated TikTok and whatnot, I haven't heard people
Speaker 1: talk about Shalome. But the movie itself, no one really
Speaker 1: talks about.
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll talk about it when he joins the
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties music Avengers with Austin Butler's Elvis and
Speaker 2: the Beatles movies that are coming up, and then maybe
Speaker 2: Freddy Murcury will but just jump back in time and
Speaker 2: join them. It'll be a grand old time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull up best actor odds on DraftKings right now.
Speaker 1: See where Shalome is.
Speaker 2: I think he was second to the last time head.
Speaker 1: He doesn't strike me as as as the leader in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse.
Speaker 2: I think he was second the last time I checked.
Speaker 1: Best Actor, Adrian Brodie from The Brutals is minus two hundred.
Speaker 1: Chalome is plus one seventy five second, Ray Fien's is
Speaker 1: third plus four hundred, Coleman Domingo's fourth plus eight hundred,
Speaker 1: and Daniel Craig is fifth plus fourteen hundred, and then
Speaker 1: Sebastian stands six plus two thousand. So there's still a
Speaker 1: chance Chalome wins, and I'm not gonna say it's not deserved,
Speaker 1: but I won't I don't think I'll be rooting for
Speaker 1: him to win this.
Speaker 2: People are already starting to say that Chalamay might have
Speaker 2: a Leo DiCaprio like run of nominations for like fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty years and then eventually get it.
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could see that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he's better in doone Too than he is
Speaker 1: in this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love him in Dune too. I think he's
Speaker 2: good in this.
Speaker 1: He shows more range in Done two than he does
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 2: He was a leader of men. I would follow him
Speaker 2: into the desert.
Speaker 1: As a man who we just talked about at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this episode, seemingly a small fella. The fact
Speaker 1: that he pulls off what he does in Done Too
Speaker 1: is incredible.
Speaker 2: He does the voice, don't do the voice. Let's get
Speaker 2: into Max say ma, sac could be anything. It could
Speaker 2: be a boat. Mac one of our podcasting brethren, got
Speaker 2: into a sticky situation at work when he took a
Speaker 2: canned beverage of the fridge, not labeled, but it did
Speaker 2: belong to someone else. And I'm gonna ask you, because
Speaker 2: you work in an environment where there is a shared fridge,
Speaker 2: there is a shared kitchen, etiquette wise, how do you
Speaker 2: go about what you will eat at work and what
Speaker 2: you won't.
Speaker 1: So typically in our scenario, a lot of times food
Speaker 1: or energy drinks get dropped off, like at the firehouses,
Speaker 1: people trying to promote stuff or leftover stuff. So that
Speaker 1: stuff's pretty tell tale. You'll be like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: for anyone, you can have it. People will grab from it.
Speaker 1: I could see how sometimes maybe someone's stuff would get
Speaker 1: mixed in with that, But generally, like if you bring
Speaker 1: in food or whatever, you put it in the fridge
Speaker 1: and you keep it in like a bag or a
Speaker 1: lunch box or a little cool or something like that.
Speaker 1: And as a general rule of thumb, at least in
Speaker 1: our fire department. Like, let's say I work tomorrow and
Speaker 1: then I'm back in three or four days. If that
Speaker 1: thanks still in the fridge, it's up for grabs. You
Speaker 1: go back in there, it's up for grabs. There's no
Speaker 1: I don't care if there's name on it. It's still
Speaker 1: sitting in there. It's up for grabs.
Speaker 2: Like you'll go in there and you'll see a nameless
Speaker 2: bag and you'll just eat whatever you find in there.
Speaker 1: Now I won't, but some people will. Some people will.
Speaker 2: Oh, people get hungry. I get it. You guys are
Speaker 2: heroes on our job.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Monday is fridge Day. So every Monday, the fridge
Speaker 1: gets cleaned up.
Speaker 2: Oh I think you meant the refrigerator. Perry from the
Speaker 2: Bears will show up every Monday and say to you guys.
Speaker 1: On Mondays, if there's stuff in there that's that's unlabeled,
Speaker 1: it gets tossed and that makes it stuff for the
Speaker 1: people that are on shift. But a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like the night before, if they cook something and there's leftovers,
Speaker 1: they'll let you know, like, hey, there's leftovers upstairs if
Speaker 1: you want it. But sometimes that stays in there for two,
Speaker 1: three or four days.
Speaker 2: Do any fights ever break out.
Speaker 1: No, they'll just it'll just turn into like a career
Speaker 1: long joke that you stole someone's this or that. Like
Speaker 1: every once in a while, here's a good example of it.
Speaker 1: Like Friday's often we'll do pizza at the firehouse, and
Speaker 1: sometimes people will just bring in their own pizza. So
Speaker 1: there have been occasions where someone goes into the fridge,
Speaker 1: sees leftover pizza and there and eats it. But it
Speaker 1: was like someone.
Speaker 2: Someone else's left or pizza or someone else's pizza. Yeah, okay, right,
Speaker 2: right right, And then they just get ship up. Like
Speaker 2: what if you went into the fridge and you saw
Speaker 2: a delicious turkey sandwich with a slice of bread in
Speaker 2: the middle that's covered in gravy. One might call it
Speaker 2: a moistmaker.
Speaker 1: Anything in the fridge looks like there's been some effort
Speaker 1: put into I'm assuming it's someone's, so I don't touch it.
Speaker 2: That's from friends, by the way, that's why Ross gets
Speaker 2: fired from the school. I believe someone eats his sandwich
Speaker 2: and he yells about it.
Speaker 1: I understand those reactions too, So it takes your shit.
Speaker 1: Then then your port for the day.
Speaker 2: You know, you can't ask me goo, what what's.
Speaker 1: It like at your communal work situation? There?
Speaker 2: I don't eat at work, so I don't know. Eight hours,
Speaker 2: I just sit there and going there. Ye okay, I focus.
Speaker 2: I do work. That's my job, not eat food.
Speaker 1: There's no like you never get coffee or you get
Speaker 1: up and go get like an energy drink or anything like.
Speaker 2: I bring a nice coffee and I drink it.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: I will say. One of the funniest thing that that
Speaker 2: someone's ever said it my work is they is they
Speaker 2: brought lunch every day, and they brought it in a
Speaker 2: lunch box, and they got into an argument with someone
Speaker 2: and a day or two later, someone filled their lunch
Speaker 2: box with milk, right, and the person pulled out the
Speaker 2: pulled out their lunch box and they go, oh, someone
Speaker 2: creamed my box.
Speaker 1: First of all, you know what, I have no comments
Speaker 1: on the situation.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that they said that. I thought it
Speaker 2: was the funniest thing ever.
Speaker 1: It's preposterous that someone would pour milk into someone's lunchbox.
Speaker 1: Didn't say. But then the response though, and then you're
Speaker 1: waisting milk.
Speaker 2: I love milk.
Speaker 1: Too.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite milk milk percentage?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I drink whole. Now look at you, saucy boy.
Speaker 1: I think my mom used to buy two percent all
Speaker 1: the time growing up. But I think I like whole
Speaker 1: milk the best. But I never like buy a gallon
Speaker 1: a home.
Speaker 2: I mean, I drank two in one growing up and
Speaker 2: then my wife was like, no, let's drink Hall milk.
Speaker 2: I can't tell the difference. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh, you can tell the difference. And coffee. If I
Speaker 1: do get dairy, it might be a little skim. I can't.
Speaker 1: Coffee's already gonna run through me. I can't add dairy
Speaker 1: to the factor.
Speaker 2: I can do a splash of cream. Don't put any
Speaker 2: sugar in that, bitch.
Speaker 1: I don't do any crem I'll do maybe skim or
Speaker 1: some almond.
Speaker 2: I have never and even when I would eat at work,
Speaker 2: I would. I have never taken anything out of the
Speaker 2: fridge that was not mine.
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Speaker 2: Who took the Doritos out of my pack lunch.
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Speaker 2: They just did a whole swamp. What the shit? They
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Speaker 1: Ready to go, Oh, I'm watching Sing Sing this weekend
Speaker 1: because I'm getting Apple TV Plus tomorrow because Severance is
Speaker 1: coming out, and so Sing Sing is like twelve dollars
Speaker 1: cheaper to watch on Apple TV.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's also back in theaters.
Speaker 1: Took alright. I will not be.
Speaker 2: Going that and the thumbs Dance that and the substance
Speaker 2: is back in theaters.
Speaker 1: I think i'll see next week.
Speaker 2: People have been telling me that there's one other one. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's a skip, but I don't want to skip it.
Speaker 1: Really, who told you that?
Speaker 2: I forget I talked.
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess both of our attitudes having not
Speaker 1: seen it yet, I guess speaks for itself. Flow. Also,
Speaker 1: I want to see that the best animated at the Globes.
Speaker 1: I also just watched Kneecap the other day, but it's
Speaker 1: on Netflix now. It's an Irish movie. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to describe it. It's not going to be for everyone.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I liked it more than a complete unknown.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, was it also about Bob Dylan?
Speaker 1: No, but it is about this Irish rap group and
Speaker 1: some of the strife going on in Ireland. That's pretty relevant.
Speaker 1: How they weren't recognizing the Irish language as like an
Speaker 1: official language. And so it's actually there's some there's a
Speaker 1: good little story in there.
Speaker 2: How is it pain?
Speaker 1: Not badneecap caps on Netflix if you're looking for something
Speaker 1: to watch, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good, alright. So Tuesdays or Goosdays. I Abuse Kangaroos, Tam Burton.
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Speaker 2: Now it's time for girls jumping on trampolines.