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Speaker 1: It's seven thirty one fifty five KO see the talk station.
Speaker 1: Real exciting day for me in studio representing District forty
Speaker 1: five here in the state of Ohio, Jennifer Grows. Always
Speaker 1: great to see. It's been too long since I've seen you,
Speaker 1: but it's a real pleasure having you here today.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Brian. It's good to be here.
Speaker 1: All right. Since we were on the topic of property taxes,
Speaker 1: you were listening, I will we heard Dusty and I
Speaker 1: know there's a budget going on now and all these
Speaker 1: things we're going to talk about the budget. We're certainly
Speaker 1: going to talk about Medicaid because you're on the Medicaid board.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you heard my conversation with
Speaker 1: Jack windsor earlier. He got the report regarding the Lexus
Speaker 1: Nexus dive into income levels and how terrible that was
Speaker 1: that all these people out there, some people with a
Speaker 1: million dollar plus resources, still on the Medicaid system. Medicaid fraud,
Speaker 1: waste and abuse has been a known problem here in
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. For a long time. So for
Speaker 1: my listeners, we will definitely get to that. But I
Speaker 1: want to start with the property tax thing, because you
Speaker 1: know there's that petition being circulated. Just eliminate it all together.
Speaker 1: And I'm struggling with how I mean. While it sounds
Speaker 1: like a wonderful idea because I hate looking at my
Speaker 1: property tax bill, which has gone up dramatically since we
Speaker 1: built a house, but I don't know how funding for
Speaker 1: anything would work in the absence of that, since everything
Speaker 1: is built around that property tax. So putting that issue aside,
Speaker 1: there is that petition circulating, but in terms of what
Speaker 1: we were warned about this potential second round of Matt Nolan,
Speaker 1: president of the County Auditors Association, speaking with Paula Krishnaver
Speaker 1: at CPO, said, listen, you embrace yourself. It's coming again.
Speaker 1: You're going to see another twenty percent jump, right, And
Speaker 1: there are seniors out there. I feel so sorry for
Speaker 1: seniors on a fixed income and they've been in their house,
Speaker 1: it's all paid off. They think they've got nothing to
Speaker 1: worry about except me, and it's an upkeep and then boom,
Speaker 1: you get a property tax bill that's jumped by one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars or something crazy like that. So how do
Speaker 1: we address this? Dusty said, this is the genesis of
Speaker 1: this was that twenty mili floor that the school's got,
Speaker 1: which allows them to get an ever increasing larger and
Speaker 1: larger amount, which is why our tax bills keep going up.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: What's your take to all this?
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Brian, you know, we know that
Speaker 4: homeowners are being crushed by property tax, and especially our
Speaker 4: over sixty five who've given largely they've lived in the
Speaker 4: community's twenty thirty forty years, but they have unrecognized gains
Speaker 4: on their homes and so a lot of people we
Speaker 4: can't wait for them to move and say move to
Speaker 4: somewhere else and use your record your unrecognized gains. So
Speaker 4: it's an issue that the House is very very aware of.
Speaker 4: And we do actually have a bill, it's HB one
Speaker 4: eighty six. But let me say we have a group
Speaker 4: of bills and we're calling this from the House. Just
Speaker 4: came out yesterday in Columbus at a press release with
Speaker 4: Representatives Roma and Representative David Thomas, and we're calling it
Speaker 4: the Property Tax Relief Now Act. So HB one six
Speaker 4: is the one that addresses the twenty mil floor. And
Speaker 4: what it would do is it limits the growth of
Speaker 4: the school district twenty mil floor to the rate of inflation.
Speaker 4: So what that means is the only increase the schools
Speaker 4: would get. Remember how Dusty was talking about the windfall again, Well,
Speaker 4: this would limit it to the rate of inflation.
Speaker 3: Now, I understand that the.
Speaker 4: Average person who works for a capitalistic company and not
Speaker 4: the government doesn't typically get a three point five percent
Speaker 4: raise every year. However, it will limit the schools. That
Speaker 4: that bill will limit the schools to a and the
Speaker 4: rate of inflation, which will greatly help because we do
Speaker 4: see that in anuary we will have another windfall of
Speaker 4: property tax increase and we can't have that.
Speaker 1: No, we cannot. But you know, in terms of addressing
Speaker 1: the schools, oh my god, what are we gonna do.
Speaker 1: We don't get an increase. We can't keep up with inflation.
Speaker 1: Problem solved, that's right, Oh, yes, that's right. And fortunately,
Speaker 1: at least right now, projections indicate and we've already seen
Speaker 1: the inflation is down. Now, it's gonna be terrible in
Speaker 1: years where you have like nine percent inflation, But if
Speaker 1: you're looking at a two which is what the FED
Speaker 1: usually is looking for in terms of acceptable desirable. Just
Speaker 1: like two percent, most of us can swallow.
Speaker 3: That, that's right.
Speaker 1: I can swallow a two percent increase of my property
Speaker 1: tax built, but not a thirty percent increase.
Speaker 3: That's right, and it will be recalculated.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a It creates a property tax credit
Speaker 4: that's equal to the amount of the tax generated by
Speaker 4: the twenty mil floor. And I can't get into particular details.
Speaker 4: This just came out yesterday, but I'd encourage everyone to
Speaker 4: talk to their legislator.
Speaker 3: But this is a whole entire pack. So not only does.
Speaker 4: It address the twenty mil floor, but it also addresses
Speaker 4: those that are on the homestead exemption. It gives local
Speaker 4: government the opportunity to match what the state does so
Speaker 4: the funding. Remember that your local property tax. Let me
Speaker 4: be really clear to every single listener, All of your
Speaker 4: local property tax stays local. The state makes the laws
Speaker 4: that affect those taxes, but all of the taxes you
Speaker 4: pay stay local. None of it goes to the state
Speaker 4: when it's your property tax. So we need to remember
Speaker 4: that we have to address the local spending. You had
Speaker 4: mentioned early earlier, Brian that you'd be okay with paying
Speaker 4: some maybe an increased sales tax, and.
Speaker 1: That way everybody participates.
Speaker 4: Well, and that is something that I've heard from my constituents.
Speaker 4: They talk about, how, you know, we have a school
Speaker 4: levy and everybody votes yes on the levee except for
Speaker 4: maybe some of our elderly who are on a homestead exemption.
Speaker 4: They don't want their property taxes to go up, but
Speaker 4: everybody votes yes. School levies pass. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: If you don't own property, there's no skin off your teeth.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: In this way, it will require local governments because there's
Speaker 4: more coming. We'll talk probably more about this today, but
Speaker 4: it will require potentially counties to consider an increase in
Speaker 4: sales tax and also potentially an income tax for the
Speaker 4: school systems because there is an opportunity for them to
Speaker 4: do that if they so choose, But the people get
Speaker 4: to vote on that.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, let's pause, We'll bring Jennifer Gross back. We
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Speaker 1: Station seven if you have krc DE talk station bry Thomas,
Speaker 1: Jennifer Gross, State Representative Gross and District forty five talking
Speaker 1: property taxes. Welcome, refreshing a dose of information here. We
Speaker 1: have local tax commissions and how do they factor into
Speaker 1: this property tax equation? Is your mic on? I don't
Speaker 1: know you are now it is it on? So well?
Speaker 4: The local and I'm not an expert in all things
Speaker 4: all things, but there's a local tax commission at every
Speaker 4: county and they have the ability to work within your
Speaker 4: sales tax and raise revenue that way. So Representative Thomas
Speaker 4: and others have been trying to go around the state
Speaker 4: and say, hey, you can take a little prop you
Speaker 4: can take a little pressure off of your homeowners by
Speaker 4: working within sales tax. But commissioners don't typically want to
Speaker 4: raise taxes, right, No.
Speaker 1: Let's this for a stadium. Yeah, I get that in there.
Speaker 4: Because you're from Cincinnati. I'm in Butler County. We don't
Speaker 4: have to worry about some of that. I don't take
Speaker 4: county issues, but but yeah, so, so they can be
Speaker 4: working on sales tax and that that gives buy into
Speaker 4: everybody in the county and it increases revenues so that
Speaker 4: it can take pressure off the homeowner. And that commission
Speaker 4: usually consists of three people and I don't quote me
Speaker 4: on this everybody, but I believe it's a commissioner, the prosecutor,
Speaker 4: and the auditor maybe those three.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we we have some possible relief in sight.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any idea what this might
Speaker 1: translate into in terms if this bill passes or this
Speaker 1: Property Tax Relief Bill Act and all that's involved with it,
Speaker 1: the you just sort of boilt down, that's right, what
Speaker 1: that might translate into in terms of reduction in tax
Speaker 1: and property taxes.
Speaker 4: The average homeowner in Ohio should see eight hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty removed from their property tax. It provides approximately three
Speaker 4: point five billion in direct property tax relief to Ohioans immediately.
Speaker 1: Well, that's going to be welcome, welcome, yep.
Speaker 4: It prevents spikes and unvoted property tax I mean, there's
Speaker 4: multiple bills. I can rattle them off, maybe we'll talk
Speaker 4: about them in this hour, but it aims to keep
Speaker 4: taxes and revenues low. It empowers local government to provide
Speaker 4: direct relief to thehi is most vulnerable through a local
Speaker 4: homestead exemption match that they can add to the state exemption.
Speaker 4: And it empowers voters to eliminate most unvoted, unvoted taxes
Speaker 4: for local governments. And it reduces the over reliance on
Speaker 4: property tax, which, as you stated earlier, was determined to
Speaker 4: be unlawful. And yeah, and we need we need to
Speaker 4: address that right now. Well, that's the Supreme Court case
Speaker 4: that I was mentioning earlier. This our school funding mechanism
Speaker 4: has been deemed unconstitutional the last twenty years. And yet
Speaker 4: it's like people complained about Donald Trump defying the courts,
Speaker 4: and you're going, oh, he's defying the courts.
Speaker 1: This is the downfall democracy. Well, we as a state
Speaker 1: have been defying our own Supreme Court now for two decades.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 3: True, a lot of people level.
Speaker 4: We also have the death penalty in Ohio, but we've
Speaker 4: had no people that have had to pay for that
Speaker 4: so during the wine years.
Speaker 1: So I'm not a fan of the death penalty because
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the state's ability to take a
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Speaker 1: we know of a lot of cases where their death
Speaker 1: penalty has been overturned because somebody lied, witnesses were lying,
Speaker 1: prosecutors were lying, police didn't do their job right, and
Speaker 1: then you can't the state shouldn't be able to take
Speaker 1: a life. I don't want to go down.
Speaker 4: That's another example lot of us not following some of
Speaker 4: the laws of the land.
Speaker 3: So but I hear you on that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with Jennifer will ultimately get to
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Speaker 1: Five to fifty one, fifty five krsit talk station. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry seven to fifty one here, I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: five in fifty on my account or my clock here,
Speaker 1: I'm distracting you are distracting me, Jennifer Gross is a
Speaker 1: distraction in studio, but a welcome distraction anyhow, Jennifer from
Speaker 1: District forty five. We took breaking things down, so we
Speaker 1: really did a good job of the property tax thing.
Speaker 1: Let's start. We'll just do the tip of the iceberg
Speaker 1: in this segment as we introduce a you know, more
Speaker 1: far reaching conversation on issues related to Medicaid. Now, when
Speaker 1: I talked to Jack Windsor about this, he was looking
Speaker 1: at that one segment of the Medicaid population, the blind, disabled,
Speaker 1: and is it elderly. Yeah, okay, the ones that most needed.
Speaker 4: Yes, the ones that I walled off as a chair
Speaker 4: and didn't even touch because I thought, I mean, how
Speaker 4: do I go back to your listeners and the people
Speaker 4: and say, well, we're going to cut the age, blind
Speaker 4: and disabled off Medicaid.
Speaker 3: You'd have my head on a platter, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, theoretically, if anybody's going to be deserving
Speaker 1: of some assistance, it'll be them, Yes, But if they've
Speaker 1: got a lot of money, then they don't need to
Speaker 1: be in a public assistance program. That's where the public
Speaker 1: assistance programs comes from, or the need comes from. Duh.
Speaker 1: Then I'm not man explaining, but I'm just so disturbed
Speaker 1: by what our state's third party vendor, a company contracted
Speaker 1: out to do this kind of work, and that's Lexus Nexus. They,
Speaker 1: according to Jack Windsor, and by all accounts, have access
Speaker 1: to eighty five five percent of every everybody in the
Speaker 1: country's bank accounts. They took looked at one slice. I
Speaker 1: think it was twenty five percent of.
Speaker 4: This fifty six percent and found twenty nine percent that's outside.
Speaker 1: So they look at a little over half of the entire blind,
Speaker 1: disabled elderly community and determined that twenty three percent of
Speaker 1: them have more income, they are not qualified to be
Speaker 1: in the program. And so he goes back to the
Speaker 1: high Department of Medicaid and like, what's the deal here,
Speaker 1: and they gave him some long winded, wordy goofy response
Speaker 1: he's published it today but which basically said nothing. And
Speaker 1: my question to him is like, wait a second. They're
Speaker 1: are vendor. We trust them with the information. They're who
Speaker 1: we rely on to determine eligibility. In the first place,
Speaker 1: they determined they aren't eligible, why not send them a
Speaker 1: letter and see you're kicked out of the program. And
Speaker 1: if they said were like, what, well, I don't have
Speaker 1: that kind of money, they can come back and try
Speaker 1: to present evidence that it's not their money or they
Speaker 1: don't have it, or Lexus Nexus was wrong. That's this
Speaker 1: simple solution that would result in billions of dollars in savings.
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 4: Yes, and let's pull that out. Four thousand Ohio Medicaid
Speaker 4: beneficial areas were found to be holding one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: to nine hundred nine hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred
Speaker 4: and ninety nine in assets, and twelve people had over
Speaker 4: a million dollars and they were on Medicaid. Let's break
Speaker 4: that down for that population, they're getting in benefits two thousand,
Speaker 4: four hundred and ninety nine dollars a month. So the
Speaker 4: taxpayer is on the hook for those four thousand people
Speaker 4: who do not qualify or twenty nine percent at two thousand,
Speaker 4: four hundred and ninety nine dollars a month times twelve
Speaker 4: times every year they were on You can do the math.
Speaker 4: That's where the billions of waste is coming from.
Speaker 1: That would address a lot of claimed budget shortfalls.
Speaker 4: In their legs and property tax. I mean, like we
Speaker 4: should be moving now. We need to be clear the
Speaker 4: federal government matches. We pay thirty five cents every dollar.
Speaker 4: The federal government would call it a pool down. I
Speaker 4: do not like it. Ohio is thirty to thirty five
Speaker 4: percent dependent on the federal government, and we could talk
Speaker 4: about this in the budget.
Speaker 1: That's our neighbors in every other state, the taxpayers that
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care. It's federal government money. That's
Speaker 1: our money. I don't want people in Kentucky for paying
Speaker 1: for our fraud, waist and abuse. I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: pisses me off so much. I just see I'm getting
Speaker 1: unhinged here, Jennifer, right. I mean, it's always well, the
Speaker 1: federal government's gonna pay. Well, you know, you go ahead
Speaker 1: and expand medicating your state because the federal government's gonna
Speaker 1: cover ninety percent of the expansion. Damn it, that's taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3: There's the federal government we are. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: People forget We're gonna draw that down.
Speaker 4: And don't even get me started on snap benefits that
Speaker 4: are spent in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1: See again, if they would more closely look at that,
Speaker 1: if we would more closely looked at if all the
Speaker 1: states out there would finally say, no, Moss, We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a deep dive on this. Now, welcome to the
Speaker 1: world of artificial intelligence. It's made the job of ferreting
Speaker 1: out so much easier. I'm sure some geek like Elon
Speaker 1: Musket put it into a computer and have it spit
Speaker 1: out in like five seconds. Got the list of people
Speaker 1: who aren't eligible, regardless of which program we're talking about,
Speaker 1: and we'd all save we could probably cut a trillion
Speaker 1: dollars out of the government spending every year.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you aren't kidding even more.
Speaker 1: Let's bring Jennifer back. It's seven and fifty five, coming
Speaker 1: up with some fifty six more to talk about in
Speaker 1: the next hour. We ah, hadn't they spent another half
Speaker 1: hour with Jennifer here in studio. I'm looking forward to that.
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Speaker 1: through the chaff and focusing on the week with Jennifer
Speaker 1: Gross High State Representative District forty five. Outspoken she is,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate your conviction. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: nice to have a politician who knows exactly where they're
Speaker 1: coming from and why they're coming from where they're coming from.
Speaker 1: So in our on air and off air discussions. That's
Speaker 1: come through very loud and clear. You know, there's little
Speaker 1: term Barbara Streiss and BS. There's a lot of BS
Speaker 1: politicians out there, and you have no idea whether what
Speaker 1: they're saying is the truth a lie. They're just trying
Speaker 1: to appease you for the moment to get you to
Speaker 1: leave them alone. But you know there's Congressman Massey out
Speaker 1: there who you know exactly where that guy's going to vote.
Speaker 1: You know exactly why he's going to vote, way ahead
Speaker 1: of time. You don't need he doesn't need to utter
Speaker 1: a symbol. Still, Will you just show me a piece
Speaker 1: of legislation I could look at and say, Massy's going
Speaker 1: to be a yes, or Massy's going to be another
Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson. That's very similar.
Speaker 4: My congressman, best congressman in Ohio if I don't say
Speaker 4: so myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And Massey with his debt clock, I mean, how do
Speaker 4: how do we we need a debt clock in Ohio
Speaker 4: to be able to show we're not in debt?
Speaker 1: But Trump wants to scrap the debt ceiling outright.
Speaker 3: Spending.
Speaker 1: I mean it's saying, you know, I'm usually in line
Speaker 1: with what Trump wants to do. And you know, anytime
Speaker 1: I criticize Trump, oh my god, I'll get an earful
Speaker 1: oh Temple, you know I do. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: like listeners are called. We say, Brian, I agree with
Speaker 1: like eighty eighty percent of what you say, or I
Speaker 1: believe that I agree with about ninety percent of what
Speaker 1: you say. It's a pretty good batting average. I'll take that,
Speaker 1: and I exactly everybody who agree with me one hundred
Speaker 1: percent of the time.
Speaker 4: Your wife does Your wife agree with you one hundred
Speaker 4: percent of mine doesn't.
Speaker 1: Of course she's listening right now.
Speaker 3: My husband's listening.
Speaker 1: You know, if she does disagree with me something, it's
Speaker 1: going to be something so trivial because we don't fight
Speaker 1: about anything. We have nothing to fight about. We get
Speaker 1: along great. Thirty three years this.
Speaker 3: Month, wow twenty two for me.
Speaker 1: We've been together longer than thirty three years. Started dating
Speaker 1: in eighty seven.
Speaker 3: We have a bill.
Speaker 4: We have a bill that was sponsored by Representative Beth
Speaker 4: Lear and Josh Williams that focuses on the foundation of
Speaker 4: the nuclear family with a mom and a dad. The
Speaker 4: month between Mother's Day and Father's Day is Natural Family Month. Oh,
Speaker 4: one of those. Well, we're working on legislation for that
Speaker 4: doesn't discount o their families, right, but it does focus
Speaker 4: on the solid foundation of.
Speaker 1: There have been so many studies reflecting that. You know,
Speaker 1: part of the problem in America is the eradication of
Speaker 1: the nuclear family, and you know the Johnson administration is
Speaker 1: largely responsible for that because they would only give welfare
Speaker 1: benefits the single moms. There was no one senator to
Speaker 1: get married, no one senator to have a guy around
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 3: That right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, moving back to Medicaid, since you're on the Medicaid board,
Speaker 1: and we've already identified one of the problems, which is
Speaker 1: no one apparently ever gets thrown off in spite of
Speaker 1: the fact that they don't qualify. How do we fix this?
Speaker 1: I mean, I keep hearing, ah, that's the county's responsibility,
Speaker 1: or we don't do that here, And you know, somebody's
Speaker 1: got to do it. Somebody's got to pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: And then somebody's gonna have to go through and look
Speaker 1: at all the working age people who are receiving Medicaid benefits.
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's complicated. But we're talking about a
Speaker 1: return on investment that is so huge. The problem just
Speaker 1: can't be ignored any longer, especially since it's coming to
Speaker 1: our everyone's attention, most notably in that small segment that
Speaker 1: we just talked about that equals billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: That's right, Brian. I.
Speaker 4: One of my goals is chair of the Ohio Medicaid Committee,
Speaker 4: has been to open up the vision for people to
Speaker 4: see what's actually going on. One of the problems with bureaucracy,
Speaker 4: no matter where it is in government, and that includes
Speaker 4: Ohio Medicaid, is lack of transparency. So we really need
Speaker 4: to doge Ohio Medicaid. And we have a director director
Speaker 4: Jada Brady. She's the director over the Joint Medicaid Oversite Committee.
Speaker 4: And in my part of the budget, which unfortunately several
Speaker 4: of those things have been removed. Now I'm hearing in
Speaker 4: the Senate version of our budget increases transparency. Now, why
Speaker 4: we would want to decrease transparency in the Ohio budget
Speaker 4: as curious to me, as you had stated earlier. With
Speaker 4: Republicans in charge, I can't answer that, but I have
Speaker 4: a call to one of the senators on Saturday morning
Speaker 4: and I'm going to ask them about that. But I
Speaker 4: increase transparency in the budget for director braided Dobble'll see
Speaker 4: what's going on. The current director of medicaidas shall we say,
Speaker 4: not as transparent as I would like.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe because that person doesn't want to see how
Speaker 1: poorly and inefficiently the system is run.
Speaker 4: But you know, Brian, I mean, if someone's an alcoholic
Speaker 4: and they realize they have a problem, that's when we
Speaker 4: get somewhere, right, that's when they go get treatment. So
Speaker 4: if we and we know that we do in huge
Speaker 4: government programs, transparency will only help us get well. Transparency
Speaker 4: helps us fix the problem. You know what, we know
Speaker 4: we have a problem. It's like we know there's something
Speaker 4: going on, and.
Speaker 1: Quite often under those circumstances, there will be an intervention. Right, people,
Speaker 1: the family members are responsible in this particular alcoholic related
Speaker 1: type scenario. Are the representatives and senators in Columbus that
Speaker 1: need to intervene. This is one department within state government.
Speaker 1: And you all know who the problem is, and you
Speaker 1: all know where the problem is. It's time to stand
Speaker 1: up and have a sit down conversation and say you
Speaker 1: need to get your blank together and start saving you
Speaker 1: how taxpayer dollars and everybody else in the country's dollars
Speaker 1: by not wasting so much by letting the problem fester.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: Well, Representative Davilla has been the one started the intervention.
Speaker 1: Jack Whitwindsor from early in the program got his information
Speaker 1: and that was at least he got the ball running.
Speaker 1: That's right, man, and I hope he scores it.
Speaker 4: Can can I just say Representative Davilla is a Navy commander.
Speaker 4: I mean, those of us who've been in the military
Speaker 4: are we are used to working hard, and we're also
Speaker 4: used to government, but we also are used to accountability.
Speaker 4: And I love that Representative Davilla through through people that
Speaker 4: have helped him in his district. They're the ones who
Speaker 4: brought this, you know, to his attention and showed him
Speaker 4: where to go. You know, it's a government of the people,
Speaker 4: for the people, and by the people. Davilla acted because
Speaker 4: he had someone behind him saying, hey, you probably ought
Speaker 4: to look at this. So he looks at it, and
Speaker 4: so we get transparency. We need to have that. And
Speaker 4: he's the intervener. And again as Director of Medicaid, if
Speaker 4: I can have people and other legislators bring not the
Speaker 4: Director of Medicaid, the chair of the Ohio Medicaid Committee,
Speaker 4: bring bills forward to reform this program. Every little bit.
Speaker 1: Helps, all right. I think it's a topic we could
Speaker 1: probably address in the remaining three minutes of this segment
Speaker 1: before we go to break. So six hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: for the blank in Cleveland Browns Complex. I don't want
Speaker 1: the Bengals to get state tax payer dollars that you
Speaker 1: might talk in earlier about our local tax commissions. That's
Speaker 1: where the tax came to build a stadium in the
Speaker 1: first place. That was our decision as Hamilton County voters.
Speaker 1: We made We made the wrong decision, Perhaps we made
Speaker 1: the right decision, doesn't matter. That's where it came from.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever got any state money
Speaker 1: for that. But I find the concept of giving private
Speaker 1: owners of businesses and mean, oh my god, it's the Bengals. No,
Speaker 1: it's a business. You know, you're not giving the guy
Speaker 1: down the street with the mom and pop store, the
Speaker 1: convenience store, whatever, state tax payer dollars. There's no line
Speaker 1: to stand in for them to hold their hand out
Speaker 1: and say, hey, can I have a part of the money.
Speaker 1: So why is it that we're supposed to pay for
Speaker 1: that in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 4: And why should people in southwest Ohio be taking out
Speaker 4: a bond for a Cleveland stadium?
Speaker 1: But here's that was the worst proposal because the bond
Speaker 1: would have been paid for over twenty five years with
Speaker 1: interest rates and it would have been to be more
Speaker 1: like a billion dollars. Yeah, well they've thrown that out
Speaker 1: in favor of rating this this fund that no one
Speaker 1: knew we had.
Speaker 4: I was unclaimed fun have one point seven billion.
Speaker 1: I read it was four point seven.
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, baby, you're right.
Speaker 1: They got a pile of money. Oh was this grab
Speaker 1: it from that? Like wait a second. First off, you
Speaker 1: had that that pile of money, and apparently you're allowed
Speaker 1: to take from it to give it to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 3: And shouldn't we save that for property tax?
Speaker 1: See that welcome that let me tell you.
Speaker 4: Let me go back though that's six hundred million though
Speaker 4: Ohio people are on the hook for that. So not
Speaker 4: that a billionaire is going to default on a loan
Speaker 4: or a bond, which is a loan right to them.
Speaker 4: But they're putting fifty million dollars of earnest money down
Speaker 4: like buying a house six hundred million. But if they
Speaker 4: defaulted on that loan, the Ohio people would be on
Speaker 4: the hook for the five hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 3: That's the truth about that.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like student loan for business.
Speaker 4: So so so my sixty five and over who just
Speaker 4: retired are having a hard time paying their property. Are
Speaker 4: giving a loan to the Cleveland Browns stadiums or the
Speaker 4: stadium there so quickly?
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who has the pictures of
Speaker 1: the people who proposed this and voted for it, because
Speaker 1: clearly there's some information out there that wants to be
Speaker 1: kept hidden Otherwise, I don't know how the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: ends up with all that money to the exclusion of
Speaker 1: literally every other sports team you know, minor league or professional.
Speaker 1: You know, Ohio State's got a football field, they got
Speaker 1: a great team since at Bengals are there, We got
Speaker 1: FC Cincinnati. I mean, the list is seemingly endless of
Speaker 1: people could have their hands out in the sports realm alone.
Speaker 1: So how is it that they got it? Well?
Speaker 4: I believe that there was pressure obviously in the Ohio
Speaker 4: House of Representatives to support this, But the day before
Speaker 4: the vote, I got a request from Paycorps. Right they
Speaker 4: want some you know, a different version and then FC Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: so we do.
Speaker 1: And then you're handing out money to sports teams are going.
Speaker 4: To ask everybody else is gonna want it too. So
Speaker 4: that was part of the reason we didn't. It's not
Speaker 4: that we don't like Cleveland. I mean, we love the
Speaker 4: Bengals better down here, of course, but but we don't.
Speaker 4: But we don't believe as conservatives that that this money
Speaker 4: should really go in that direction.
Speaker 1: So that's my only point. It is not against the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I got no problem with the city of
Speaker 1: Cleveland people who live there. I think they're there. They're Ohio,
Speaker 1: and the are my neighbors exactly. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: care about that. If it was Columbus, or if it
Speaker 1: was hell War in Ohio was getting this kind of money,
Speaker 1: I'd still asked the same damn question. It's not right principle.
Speaker 3: Let's go back.
Speaker 4: So the Senate is changing that funding from a six
Speaker 4: hundred million dollar bond in the House budget to taking
Speaker 4: the money from the unclaimed funds pile in.
Speaker 1: No, but that's me beyond the point or beside.
Speaker 3: The point, right right, It's it's a high.
Speaker 1: It's Ohio money, right, it's my taxpayer dollars. It's your
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars, and it's going to one family.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. Somebody was threatened behind the scene. I bet
Speaker 1: there has to be a reason for this. I just
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Speaker 1: five here in the state of Ohio. Doing a great
Speaker 1: job this morning, Jennifer, and enjoying our conversations. And then
Speaker 1: topic near and dear to your heart. And I just
Speaker 1: sent Maureen an instant message saying hang around. You're gonna
Speaker 1: love this because she just sent me a message. Maureene
Speaker 1: listens in Florida, but she is all over and has
Speaker 1: been all over the whole COVID nineteen, the vaccine to
Speaker 1: cover up information and YadA, YadA yah. It's one of
Speaker 1: her favorite topics. And she shows, I got another conspiracy
Speaker 1: for you. She's self deprecating in that regard because a
Speaker 1: lot of things she's told me over the years of
Speaker 1: like there's no way anyway. One of the things we
Speaker 1: learned during COVID nineteen is that but pharmacies were not
Speaker 1: allowed to fill ibermacan prescriptions. And I found that quite offensive.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that they were able to interfere
Speaker 1: with a physician's practice of medicine. The physician is a diagnostician.
Speaker 1: There is such a thing as off label use of drugs.
Speaker 1: We've been doing this forever, and if the physician and
Speaker 1: his infinite wisdom, after talking with his or her patient
Speaker 1: about the potential downside risk, and we've tried this, that
Speaker 1: hasn't worked. We tried. I've got an idea, maybe this
Speaker 1: will help you get the relief you need. They were
Speaker 1: stopped from doing that. That's right, all right, cold, No,
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your license. That to me, that blew
Speaker 1: my mind.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 4: So my answer to that in Ohio was HB twelve,
Speaker 4: which is due to be voted out of the Ohio
Speaker 4: Health Committee this week. So if you have a representative
Speaker 4: in your district, or even if you don't, and you
Speaker 4: like a bill, it's called the Jeff Dave and Angie
Speaker 4: Right to Try Act. And Jeff Smith was a man
Speaker 4: who died in Westchester Hospital. His wife's had to sue
Speaker 4: the hospital to get ivermectin and then unfortunately she paid
Speaker 4: seven thousand to get it, and then the local judge
Speaker 4: took it away. And then Jeff died in the hospital,
Speaker 4: and so and then Dave and Angie also up north.
Speaker 4: They also died in an Ohio hospital. Patients were requesting averramectin,
Speaker 4: hydroxy chloroquin budestinied numerous other drugs brian, but there was
Speaker 4: only one drug and that was remdy severe and a ventilator.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately, physicians lost that opportunity to say, you know,
Speaker 4: I think we ought to try this. I have doctor
Speaker 4: witnesses that have come up to the state House and
Speaker 4: spoken about how they were not allowed to utilize different treatments,
Speaker 4: and this bill protects that patient provide a relationship. The
Speaker 4: sacred relationship also allows the physician to have free speech,
Speaker 4: which was vetoed by the governor last year with a
Speaker 4: similar bill like this one of mine, and and so
Speaker 4: we came back again. I believe that patients and providers
Speaker 4: need to have a private, sacred relationship, and that pharmacists,
Speaker 4: the important part of the team and collaborators with the team,
Speaker 4: are not the prescriber. They don't examine the patient, they
Speaker 4: don't look at the patient they know their history and
Speaker 4: and so there are there are a lot more details
Speaker 4: to the bill. Main opposition is the Ohio Pharmacists Association.
Speaker 4: Shocking and that's unfortunate. But not all pharmacists are against it.
Speaker 4: I mean some pharmacists did dispense but but but a
Speaker 4: lot of people did not, and there was pressure for
Speaker 4: them not to. And when a patient gets prescribed to medication, Brian,
Speaker 4: who do they return to if that that medication is rejected?
Speaker 4: They go back to the physician who prescribed the treatment. Now,
Speaker 4: this bill allows if the pharmacist says, hey, this is
Speaker 4: going to kill the patient, different drug interaction.
Speaker 1: That's what pharmacists are for. No, you're taking that medication.
Speaker 1: If you take this one on top of it, you're
Speaker 1: gonna die.
Speaker 4: And that is protected in this bill. They still have
Speaker 4: the ability to do all of that. But they don't
Speaker 4: get to tell a physician I'm not going to give
Speaker 4: this because I don't I don't agree with your.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not going to give you this because Moderna
Speaker 1: came up with a vaccine. Well that doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to take the Moderna vaccine. You're entitled to try
Speaker 1: something alternative, and that you know, especially with a demonstrably
Speaker 1: safe pill. Yes, you know, I remeke them. It's been
Speaker 1: around for decades, it's solved all kinds of problems. And
Speaker 1: you may reject the idea that it's going to help
Speaker 1: you with your COVID and you're allowed to be in
Speaker 1: that camp. That's what the informed decision comes in. No. No,
Speaker 1: I believe what everybody's telling me, that you're crazy to
Speaker 1: take a horse warm pill or whatever. But it's been
Speaker 1: well documented that you know, in the final analysis, it
Speaker 1: did actually kind of work for a lot of folks.
Speaker 3: And it's over the counter.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why the pharmaceutical companies hate it. Because it's
Speaker 1: no longer subject to a patent. It can be manufactured
Speaker 1: inexpensively and cheaply.
Speaker 4: And people don't understand that sometimes. And I want to
Speaker 4: remind your listeners that twenty to sixty percent of all
Speaker 4: prescriptions prescribed by providers are off label. So doctors see
Speaker 4: that it works for something else that it wasn't originally
Speaker 4: indicated by the FDA, But the FDA determines any drug
Speaker 4: that's out there is safe for human consumption.
Speaker 1: Well, that's how you got vi ager because it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a blood pressure medications right, and they
Speaker 1: pet guys were coming in and going, hey, can I
Speaker 1: get some more of this? Like well why like they discovered,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it really does work. Amen and making
Speaker 1: made billions and billions and billions of dollars stumbling upon
Speaker 1: it as an off label use. Jennifer Gross, this has
Speaker 1: been a wonderful conversation. You can come in anytime. We'll
Speaker 1: talk again more. And I appreciate your time with my
Speaker 1: listeners of me today. Thank you, Brian stick around, I
Speaker 1: heard me. The aviation expert Jay Ratlowe joins the program next.
Speaker 1: We have a long list of topics with Jay and
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope you'll wait around for that.
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