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<v Speaker 1>You're List Saints KFI AM six forty. The Bill handles

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<v Speaker 2>The Democratic Party is in absolute disarray right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>part of this has to do with the leadership. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to point at Chuck Schumer on this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me come back to this. We had the showdown

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday. When Bill got done with the show on Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Ann reached out and she said, Hey, you're in on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want Bill to tease over the weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, an, I really don't know. I mean, for

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<v Speaker 2>Pete's sake, we don't have any ideas the is the

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<v Speaker 2>government going to be open or we're gonna go through

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<v Speaker 2>a shutdown. We don't know if if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a new tariffs. We don't know what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>now over the weekend. What do we do? We started

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<v Speaker 2>bombing and Yemen. We did not shut down the government,

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<v Speaker 2>but then we sent Venezuelan gang members to El Salvador

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<v Speaker 2>and a judge said don't and Trump said, they're already

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. And the l Salvadorian president he tweeted,

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<v Speaker 2>oops too late, oopsie, too late. So how would we

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<v Speaker 2>have predicted any of that. Literally, the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we thought might happen is the potential for US shutdown.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we were watching on Friday. Things happen so

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<v Speaker 2>fast right now in this fire hose of chaos, the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats can't keep up. And so while the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out are we mad about the shutdown

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<v Speaker 2>or are we mad that we didn't shut down? As

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer last week said we're going to shut down

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<v Speaker 2>the government because we're not going to allow a Trump

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<v Speaker 2>to cherry pick what he wants to spend money on,

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<v Speaker 2>and then later says, I've decided we have to do

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<v Speaker 2>this because it would be worse. Well, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 2>think that on Tuesday or Wednesday? Right, So he reverses course,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you had people that were rallying around Schumer

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<v Speaker 2>to begin with, and they went, all, right, Chuck, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this. We love that you're fighting. And then on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday he says, nope, not. In the meantime, the government

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<v Speaker 2>didn't shut down. There was no shutdown. If the government

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<v Speaker 2>had shut down, the Democrats would have been blamed. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, when the government shuts down, the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of people, partisanship aside because you're going to have you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have people on the right that are always going

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<v Speaker 2>to blame the left and people on the left that

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<v Speaker 2>are always gonna blame the right. But in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>when the government has shut down, the majority of people

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<v Speaker 2>have blamed the Republicans. The Republicans are the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>have held the financing of the country hostage to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get what they can. That's happened in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democrats were at the point where they could and

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans challenged them to do it, and they did not,

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<v Speaker 2>which has got a lot of Democrat rank and file angry.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, this was our chance to do what the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans have been doing to us. That's what they thought.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happened was the Republicans put them at a spot.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republicans dared them. They said, go ahead, look like

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<v Speaker 2>the party that's going to shut things down. We're the

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<v Speaker 2>party that's enacting tariffs, we're the party that's deporting people

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place. But you're going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>party that shuts things down. And so Schumer said, no

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<v Speaker 2>any bails, and he says, we've got to support this now.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the scenes, all they needed were what seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>think democratic votes in order to overcome a filibuster, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think Schumer probably did the math on that

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, all right, they've got seven. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to look like the guy who loses this. If if

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<v Speaker 2>I have seven defectors who aren't listening to leadership and

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<v Speaker 2>vote with the Republicans to keep the government open, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to look like I lose. Instead, what Schumer did

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<v Speaker 2>is he said, uh, okay, I am supporting it. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>they did what I wanted. So he's trying to save face.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was too late. He was just too late.

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<v Speaker 2>And so now the Democrats don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have any idea where they go from here,

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<v Speaker 2>and they can't keep up with this fire hose of

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<v Speaker 2>chaos that's coming out of the White House. They can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it all they know. The unifying message the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have right now nationwide is they don't like Trump. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't like Elon Musk. That's it. What to know about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're confused. Bill Deblasio was on News Nation, former New

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<v Speaker 2>York City mayor Democrat, and he was asked about what's

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<v Speaker 3>Former Democratic mayor of New York City Builds A Blasio mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>Your party in DC deeply divided over this government funding bill.

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<v Speaker 4>How did Democrats now move forward?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Hannah, we've got issues, so we have some real

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<v Speaker 5>things to resolve. But I also want to say, this

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<v Speaker 5>was a kind of impossible choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest about it.

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<v Speaker 5>As a result the election, we were dealing with the

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<v Speaker 5>Senate reality where it was going to be a bad

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<v Speaker 5>outcome no matter what. Now, where was the mistake? I

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<v Speaker 5>would say it was in not setting the stage properly.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I continue here. One of the terms that you

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<v Speaker 2>hear used all the time, which is true but tends

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<v Speaker 2>to be used as an insult, is that elections have consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what happens is Democrats don't get what they want.

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<v Speaker 2>We're seeing everything going on with Trump, and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>will say, see, well, elections have consequences. You lost, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But then the Democrats are also saying this because you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a number of Trump voters getting doged. Those of course,

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<v Speaker 2>are making headlines because it's an easy headline for clickbait,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the Democrats are saying, oh, well, you fool around,

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<v Speaker 2>you find out elections have consequences. So everybody likes to

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<v Speaker 2>use that back and forth. Elections have consequences. I hate

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<v Speaker 2>the smugness of today's politicians.

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<v Speaker 5>This is where the Democrat leadership has said, Hey, everyone,

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<v Speaker 5>this is what we're really dealing with, and if we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to make this compromise choice to buy into this bill,

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<v Speaker 5>it's simply so we can live to fight another day.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's because we want to keep all the pressure

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<v Speaker 5>on Donald Trump and Elon Musk for what they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>to this country, what they're doing to the economy, what

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<v Speaker 5>they're doing to working people. That would have been a

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<v Speaker 5>coherent message to get people ready for sort of the

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<v Speaker 5>shock of having to accept this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, this has happened. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the real question is can Democrats get back on

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive because there's a lot to work with and

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of Americans think what Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>Musk are doing is extreme. So I chopped this one

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<v Speaker 5>up to it really is. It's a bad situation, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's one we got to put past us and now

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<v Speaker 5>get on the offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So build a Blasio, former New York City

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<v Speaker 2>mayor and Democrat who says, let's just put it behind us,

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<v Speaker 2>let's focus on what's in front of us. The truth is,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't keep up. You cannot keep up. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is where the Democrats have no idea what they like

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<v Speaker 2>and don't like, which is why the latest polling you

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<v Speaker 2>maybe have seen this came out late last week. The

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<v Speaker 2>latest polling the Democratic Party is a new low. The

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<v Speaker 2>reason it has a new low is not because suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's become a Republican. The Republicans would want you to

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<v Speaker 2>think that everyone the country is shifting in their direction.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason the Democratic Party has such a low

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<v Speaker 2>approval rating right now is because the Democrats don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they want. And so how do you say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this when they don't know what they like?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, they don't have any idea and leadership is

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to read the tea leaves pick a direction

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<v Speaker 2>instead of picking a direction and sticking to it. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not in Meanwhile, it just makes them look like they're

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<v Speaker 2>the most incoherent party. But that fire hose of chaos continues,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to stop. In fact, the latest from

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<v Speaker 2>the White House, you can't possibly keep up with everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on the latest from the White House is

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<v Speaker 2>that presidential orders not issued by Trump are are void, void, vacant,

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<v Speaker 2>and of no further effect. My god, the twisted web

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<v Speaker 2>we weave. Pardon me.

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<v Speaker 6>Next, you're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf

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<v Speaker 6>I am six forty Amy.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it this year? You're rooting for the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>in the March badness. We'll see, we'll see how they fare,

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<v Speaker 2>but you got them slided. Is like a four seed

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<v Speaker 2>in the college basketball tournament. Verio, go Dodgers, Go Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>True sports fan to the bone on that one. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>the President is saying, uh, pardon me. Friends. So you

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<v Speaker 2>will recall that the president took office and the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing he did was one of the first things he did,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, was pardon all of the J six tourists.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't call them rioters. They were just simply taking

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<v Speaker 2>a tour of the Capitol building. And as with most tourists,

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<v Speaker 2>they then occupied other people's offices and desks, and they,

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<v Speaker 2>like most tourists do, wiped feces on the walls. One

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<v Speaker 2>has to wonder if they came prepared with feces or

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<v Speaker 2>if they were manufactured on site. We don't know. That

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<v Speaker 2>was never in the news reports. But just the same

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<v Speaker 2>they were pardoned. What about all those pardons that Biden

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<v Speaker 2>put out right before he got out the door, If

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<v Speaker 2>you will recall, he was preemptively pardoning his whole family, Fauci, Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that Trump said I'm gonna go after them during

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign, and then after the campaign Biden said, which

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<v Speaker 2>translates to you all get pardons. It was bidence. Now

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump says, no countcies a.

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<v Speaker 7>President Trump doubling down over the weekend on his claim

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<v Speaker 7>that his predecessor Joe Biden used an auto pen to

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<v Speaker 7>add his signature to crucial documents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, President's hate when you learn this one simple hack

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<v Speaker 2>to undo everything.

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<v Speaker 7>Mills Hayes is here with us this morning. So Mills

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<v Speaker 7>described this to us. What exactly is an autopen and

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<v Speaker 7>is there any evidence that President Biden was heavily relying

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<v Speaker 7>on one like President Trump claims?

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<v Speaker 2>It's from News Nation the I want to give them credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, good morning, Marky, happy to be back here. And

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<v Speaker 3>autopin is a device that replicates someone's signature. It's something

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<v Speaker 3>that celebrities often used to sign autographs for fans, and

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<v Speaker 3>it provides an identical signature every single time, like almost

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<v Speaker 3>a stamp. It's common knowledge that presidents use the device

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<v Speaker 3>to Harry Truman believed to be the first US president

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<v Speaker 3>to do so almost one hundred years ago, but the

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<v Speaker 3>White House doesn't exactly broadcast that they're doing it. For

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<v Speaker 3>obvious reasons. The issue here, according to President Trump, is

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<v Speaker 3>how much his predecessor was allegedly relying on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>overnight the President upping the antique, posting that the pardon

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<v Speaker 3>signed by President Biden our quote hereby declared void, vacant,

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<v Speaker 3>and of no further force or effect because of the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they were done by autopin.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, who knew this thing that we've been using for

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<v Speaker 2>the last seventy years, come to find out totally illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no one ever thought to challenge this in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>We just learned that it's totally illegal, and that anything

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<v Speaker 2>Biden did is now undone, and there it is anything

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<v Speaker 2>that was signed with autopen undone. So sid, what are

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<v Speaker 2>we gonna take back? Now? We're going to take back

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<v Speaker 2>the pardons. What we're gonna do, We're gonna undo the

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<v Speaker 2>Chips Act. Is that right? We're gonna undo a stimulus package.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we all owe the government now at twelve hundred dollars? Check?

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, Joe Biden did not sign them, he continues.

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<v Speaker 3>Those on the Unselect Committee, referring to the House committee

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<v Speaker 3>that investigated January sixth should quote fully understand that they

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now we're gonna investigate former congress persons and

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<v Speaker 2>current congress persons for investigating the former now current President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>This is fun.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact is that they were probably responsible for the

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<v Speaker 3>or consent. This claim originated from the Hairritage Foundation's Oversight project.

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<v Speaker 3>They highlighted signatures from pardons that the president signed, including

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<v Speaker 3>They alleged the signatures are identical, suggesting the use of

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's withdrawal from the twenty twenty four presidential race, which

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we all crooked. Joe Biden got us into a.

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<v Speaker 8>Real mess with Russia and everything else. He did, frankly,

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<v Speaker 8>but he didn't know about it, and he generally speaking

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<v Speaker 8>signed it with autopen. So how would he know that autopen.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 8>Ninety nine percent of the time I say do it,

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<v Speaker 8>but they come up and I sign it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>only disrespectful when Biden does it. Yeah. Will he then

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<v Speaker 2>use the auto pen when he pardons George Floyd's killer? What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Prominent supporters President Trump, led by podcaster real life podcaster

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<v Speaker 2>whole pardon Chauven, and he says that the Shapiro says

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<v Speaker 2>that he has hopes that Chauven would be more easily

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<v Speaker 2>away the federal conviction, he would of course still have

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<v Speaker 2>the state conviction. So uh, Biden pardons void, vacant, and

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<v Speaker 2>the white cop that killed the black guy that set

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<v Speaker 2>off race riots across the country. This is fun. The

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<v Speaker 2>madness continues, only this time we actually knew it was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>March Madness. Good news for California schools. Both the men's

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people. I talked with the people yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I do a show on Sunday afternoons, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking with people and they were saying, Wow, I was

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about the LA Marathon. I was so excited

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<v Speaker 2>was They said, dude, were you watching the LA Marathon?

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<v Speaker 2>And I had to be honest, doesn't sound terrible, no,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was watching college basketball. The greatest two days

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<v Speaker 2>in American sports are this Thursday and Friday. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>had this argument with people before and they go, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's wild Card weekend of the the NFL. They love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, those are great two big football fans,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest sport in America. But for absolute engagement from

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<v Speaker 2>non fans, for the chaos that is almost planned, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason they call it madness, and that is that

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<v Speaker 2>as you watch on Thursday and Friday, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>teams from places you've never heard of before. I did

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<v Speaker 2>this amy to be fair. I know you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>tech Raoul, who is a sports fan? And I said, Row,

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<v Speaker 2>where is Lipscomb University? I don't know. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any idea. There's schools you've never heard of that suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>are making national attention. An's gonna jump in here and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that she went to Lipscomb. No she didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they underdogs? I'm going to root for him. I

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<v Speaker 4>would like to root for the underdog.

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<v Speaker 2>They are underdogs against the Cyclones of Iowa State. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's go Lipscomb. Let's do it right. California school is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well represented.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be hard to have a cheerleading team for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what hold on? What is their

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<v Speaker 2>Uh have to figure out what their mascot is, lipsm University.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Lipscomb University is being googled today more than

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<v Speaker 2>it ever has ever. Uh, it's in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 4>It's uh, Lou the Bison.

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<v Speaker 2>Is It's the Bison.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a cute mascot.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you say that you knew the name of the Bison,

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<v Speaker 2>Lou Lou?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, Well go Lipscomb. Well done. I'm making

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<v Speaker 2>it in there, Bison. So I love that you You

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<v Speaker 2>hear about these schools you've never otherwise heard of, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you always root for these underdogs and you

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<v Speaker 2>just go, this is the year here. Let's go Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Francis anyway. Uh, California school is pretty well represented. I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've got San Diego State is in U see

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you talking about the men's or the women's Now,

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<v Speaker 2>About the men's. We're gonna get the women's here in

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<v Speaker 2>a second, because I know that they're even better representative

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<v Speaker 2>the yeah, way better. But let's let's I know, women's

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<v Speaker 2>ratings are up, but men's ratings are gonna be bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're just gonna focus on that here for for

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<v Speaker 2>Uh but yeah, UCLA is in there, so anyway, good

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<v Speaker 2>representation from the California schools. All right, go to the

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<v Speaker 2>women's the women's bracket because two number one seeds from

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<v Speaker 2>Southern California, right, this is big lely. So you've got

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<v Speaker 2>USC and UCLA. And USC says that they feel slighted

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<v Speaker 2>because they they got the fourth number one seed and

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<v Speaker 2>they said that they should have been ranked higher. They

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<v Speaker 2>say they feel disrespect due by being there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA's the number one overall seed, which is pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>And then us C gets the They also get a

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<v Speaker 2>number one. I don't know, it gets confusing fast, but

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<v Speaker 2>really well represented on the women's side, especially with those

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<v Speaker 2>two number one teams. Who's your money on? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a bracket Amy King? Yeah, San Diego's

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<v Speaker 2>in there too.

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<v Speaker 4>No, because if I do, I don't know enough about it.

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<v Speaker 4>My bradnet gets busted in the first round. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>throwing money away.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody gets busted in the first round.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I want to do it. I only want to

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<v Speaker 2>So here's a couple of things. First of all, all

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<v Speaker 2>offices should be sponsoring their own bracket challenge. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>productivity drops and all that other crap, but it builds.

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<v Speaker 2>It builds morale, It builds camaraderie. It's great. Put together

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<v Speaker 2>a little prize doesn't have to be much, maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>you know, little finger traps or some post it notes

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<v Speaker 2>from lumin industry, something of the sort. Just put it

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<v Speaker 2>all together, some sort of a prize and it builds morale.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. If you have never picked a bracket before,

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<v Speaker 2>you always hear these stories about people basing it on

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<v Speaker 2>the mascots, like the lou the Bison from Lipscomb, or

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<v Speaker 2>the color of the jerseys. I told the story yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>A few years back. My wife, she didn't win it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she did a lot better than me. She chose

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<v Speaker 2>based on serial killers, so she filled out what she

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<v Speaker 2>called the most evil bracket. And so my wife went

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<v Speaker 2>through and she watches a lot of this investigation, Discovery

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<v Speaker 2>and all these other true crime shows. And my wife

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<v Speaker 2>went through and she said, okay, if this school, you

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<v Speaker 2>know where where are the worst serial killers, the most

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<v Speaker 2>prolific serial killers and what school are they near? And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. That may have been the year that

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<v Speaker 2>Wichita did really well. And she was like, well, BTK,

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<v Speaker 2>he's from Wichita. So she chose Wichita to to go

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<v Speaker 2>a lot farther than most people thought, and they they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she would she would choose these other schools

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<v Speaker 2>at California schools well represented obviously a lot of serial

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<v Speaker 2>killers from here, Wisconsin and ed Geen, and then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got these others. Florida had this one and that one.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I go, okay, well, what are you gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do with Ted Bundy, because you know he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was uh, he was a serial killer in a number

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<v Speaker 2>of states. Shes as well, I'm gonna see Florida's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do really well. Anyway, my wife ended up finishing I

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<v Speaker 2>think third that year based on what schools were closest

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<v Speaker 2>to the worst serial killers. That was her, That was

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<v Speaker 2>her bracket. That it was at that moment that I

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<v Speaker 2>most terrified of my wife that I've ever been. So

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<v Speaker 2>two things worked into that one. Just thoughts. I think

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<v Speaker 2>call it a waste of money if you want. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's fun building around Amy. I think you should

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<v Speaker 2>do a bracket. You could be the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>picks lips come. I could they earned their the way

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<v Speaker 2>le sco lips come. Let's go. Speaking of bison, it

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<v Speaker 2>How about a Wild Kingdom? Sad news? You heard Amy

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<v Speaker 2>King talking about this? Jackie in Shadow, have a dead

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<v Speaker 9>This morning, friends of Big Bear Valley have confirmed that

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<v Speaker 4>They say, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't really missing, It was just kind of in the nest,

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<v Speaker 9>It did not make it through the snowstorm that hit

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<v Speaker 9>it died or which eglit it was, as they were

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<v Speaker 9>all similar in size. The good news is that the

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<v Speaker 9>Jackie and Shadow have them on a very steady diet

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Amy, do you think that the Shadow looks

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<v Speaker 2>at Jackie and says you did this? It was on

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<v Speaker 2>your watch?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, do not be mean about our eagles. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're obsessed with them here. I know what is up

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<v Speaker 4>with that, because it's the coolest thing to watch. And

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<v Speaker 4>it actually probably increases the chances that the other two

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<v Speaker 4>will survive.

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<v Speaker 2>How's that is, mom? Not to bring enough food?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're actually they have their own fishing pond a

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<v Speaker 4>big bear lake, which is great. They've got a massive

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<v Speaker 4>pile of carcasses right now. But because as they get larger,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't completely cover the birds, and so a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years ago, I'm sure I'm not sure, if it

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<v Speaker 4>was the year that Spirit was born. But once they

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<v Speaker 4>get too big, the parents can't cover them completely. And

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<v Speaker 4>if they get a real bad cold storm, a snowstorm

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<v Speaker 4>or a rainstorm, yeah, they're not waterproof yet because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have all their feathers, so they can get hypothermia

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<v Speaker 4>and they can die. That happened a couple of years

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<v Speaker 4>ago to one of them. One of them made it,

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<v Speaker 4>one of them didn't, because they can't completely cover them.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you say I was listening to your news. Didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you say that the odds of survival are already only

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent? So help me understand, yes, because I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out the odds here, and I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a big gambler. So they they had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple last year that didn't make it because the eggs

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<v Speaker 2>got stolen by ravens or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, No, the eggs never hatched last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, was it the year before that they got stolen?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Ravens took one of them.

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<v Speaker 4>They did, Okay, they did, so so far?

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<v Speaker 2>How many how many eaglets have Jackie in Shadow actually

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<v Speaker 2>put out there?

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<v Speaker 4>Total? I think it's like, I think it's fourteen ish.

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<v Speaker 2>How many have survived?

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<v Speaker 4>Not that many, there was. I only know because I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't start watching them till like three or four years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've only seen two. Yeah, so the last couple

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<v Speaker 4>of years they haven't had any. They haven't had any

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<v Speaker 4>make it the last couple of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if the odds are fifty percent, we got

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<v Speaker 2>two that are in the nest still. Of the three,

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<v Speaker 2>one didn't make it already. So the two that are

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<v Speaker 2>still in there, if we're just playing the odds, we

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<v Speaker 2>would think that they're they're going to survive then in

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<v Speaker 2>order to offset the other what do you say, like

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<v Speaker 2>a Baker's dozen't that didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's hope. So no, the Baker's doesn't that did. They've

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<v Speaker 4>been they've had this nest for like ten years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if anybody, if anybody from Friends of Big Bear Valley

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<v Speaker 4>are listening, can correct me. But yeah, they've had the

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<v Speaker 4>same nest for a very long time. And it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's so fun to watch them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just it is fun.

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<v Speaker 4>They're great parents, they take care of their babies. It's

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<v Speaker 4>fun to watch the little kids.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a little bit we though, I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>that we watched these these birds, and we assign a

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<v Speaker 2>certain value to their lives over the values of other lives.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, you just mentioned that there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of carcasses stacking up at the nest.

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<v Speaker 4>We were talking about that last week, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What if there had been a fish camera in that

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<v Speaker 2>lake at Big Bear that was following this little family

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<v Speaker 2>of fish and it was talking about how these fish

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<v Speaker 2>came from little eggs and there their chances of survival

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<v Speaker 2>are so minimal and it's so scary and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one day, all of a sudden, one of

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<v Speaker 2>those fish get snagged by a bird and ripped out

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<v Speaker 2>so it can go feed its kids. We go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, I can't believe this happened to that fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so terrible. I'm heartbroken for the fish family.

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<v Speaker 4>The fish are not majestic and they are not our

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<v Speaker 4>national bird. Okay, and eagles are very impressed. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they're big, they're like this big, they're like three feet tall.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>They're incredibly beautiful because they were endangered and they've they're

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<v Speaker 4>fighting their way back from near extinction. Okay, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a beautiful story. Just strange that you picked

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<v Speaker 2>that animal over all the other animals.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it just happens to have a camera on it.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have a camera on the fish.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta put a camera on the fish. There you go,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, who's standing up for the fish? Nobody? Who's

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<v Speaker 2>standing up for the wombats. Imagine you're in Australia and

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<v Speaker 2>some American comes through and starts jacking with your wombats.

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<v Speaker 2>That'd be like an Aussie coming through here and start

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<v Speaker 2>and messing with Jackie in Shadow. You would not put

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<v Speaker 2>up with it. Just quart a baby wombat.

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<v Speaker 10>This video, shared widely on social media, appears to show

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<v Speaker 10>American tourist Sam Jones picking up and running away with

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<v Speaker 10>a wild baby wombat in Australia as its mother chases

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<v Speaker 10>after her distressed.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's let him go.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first time I sold this video, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt rage, and.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, just it means anger for what she's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Wombats are protected, Yeah, Amy, Imagine if somebody went and

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<v Speaker 2>took one of those little chicklets out of the Jackie

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<v Speaker 2>in Shadows nest and started running away with it, you

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<v Speaker 2>would be raged in rage, wouldn't you be? Less? Yes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that influencer would get clicks. That's what they want.

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<v Speaker 10>Now the country is examining her visa to see if

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<v Speaker 10>she's breached its conditions.

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<v Speaker 8>Is just an outrage.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a condition on the visa don't mess with

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<v Speaker 2>a wombat?

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I suggest to this so called influencer,

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<v Speaker 8>maybe she might try some other Australian animals take a

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<v Speaker 8>baby crocodile.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm just imagining if this were all about

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<v Speaker 2>our eagles, and Amy had to give the commentary because

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<v Speaker 2>Amy would say, I would suggest that this Australian so

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<v Speaker 2>called influence here try some of our other American animals

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<v Speaker 2>try to snag a baby Kodiak bear. That's what you

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<v Speaker 2>would do. You'd go and I hope you die.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and here here's a rattlesnake for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's perfect. That's excellent, that's outstanding. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that we've become so vindictive. We just want to

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<v Speaker 2>see humans die because they did something to animals. We

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<v Speaker 2>have chosen the hierarchy of species and we have not

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<v Speaker 2>placed ourselves atop that hierarchy any longer. That's where we

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<v Speaker 2>are now with humanity. And I've been being completely honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of agree, I do all right. Life is expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>just how expensive? So expensive that we have now started

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<v Speaker 2>training our border patrol to start keeping an eye out

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<v Speaker 2>for this, and they're finding more of it than they

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<v Speaker 2>are fentanyl. I'll tell you what that is next.

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